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bananagreste · 8 months
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keeping up with the dupain-chengs → baker's peel
(for @cakemousse!)
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pearl484-blog · 1 year
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On Roland Dupain
While my beta and I were discussing characters, Roland Dupain showed up, and I explained the common headcanon that he is racist to him. For those of you who have forgotten Roland, he is Marinette's grandfather, and in his intro episode, it is brought up that he has not visited his son, Tom Dupain-Cheng in quite some time. When Marinette asks around though, no one seems comfortable enough to explain to Marinette why. It isn't until after Marinette meets Roland that we learn the reason. He and Tom got into an argument after Tom used rice flour in a bread recipe.
Roland's explanation is "That's not how it's done!" and it's implied that Tom got the idea from Sabine, a first generation Chinese immigrant. So the fanon goes that Roland is actually racist towards Sabine and used the rice flour as an excuse. But my beta reader came up with a different explanation. What if he's autistic?
See, Roland is very resistant to change, and he hates to explain himself, besides just saying "that's not how it's done". It's presented as him being stuck in the past -and he is- but he also shows a lot of autistic traits.
For starters, when Roland is upset, he has a tendancy to repeat himself. "That's not how it's done" is his catchphrase for a reason. He also defaults to a customer service phrase while talking to Hawk Moth during his first akumatization. He also sings the exact same song every time he bakes, but that could be a habit to help him time himself and be consistent.
Roland is very self-isolating and dedicates himself 100% to baking. To the point where it seems to be his main obsession (his old tech is obselete and usually implied to be busted beyond repair, but he will not toss it). He clearly does not leave the house often as his akuma is startled -and frustrated by- technology that would seem mundane to most. He'll keep the same frustration at these changes even when he's acknowledging the tech is better for everyone, including himself.
When he's confused or frustrated, he never explains why very well, just has a massive freakout. These are all symptomatic of autism.
If he's autistic, it would explain why he freaked out over such a "minor thing". By changing the main ingredient in bread, Tom changed the texture and flavor to something very different than what Roland was used to and he didn't like it. So he freaked out, wouldn’t explain this "atrocity" to his tongue (ie, a texture/flavor that repulsed him) and might have even assumed Tom would know what he did. This would've been especially bad if Tom interfered with Roland's primary fixation.
In Tom and everyone else's eyes, Roland freaked out over nothing, but in Roland's eyes, Tom messed with baking -his hyperfixation- and made something he hated and assumed everyone else would hate, then had the GALL to stand by his abomination to baking- Serious Business for Roland.
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cardiac-agreste · 1 month
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Also Chat Noir as Dug. "I was hiding under your porch because I LOVE YOU"
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Why does she still give out the charms?
I’ve been seeing a lot of people question the purpose of Ladybug continuing to give charms to the citizens after they are deakumatized, after all, now that Hawkmoth can destroy them, shouldn’t she stop giving them away now that they are useless against his power? well, no actually, despite the charms no longer being capable of rejecting Hawkmoths control, they can still be used to help civilians. 
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 Although the  charms Ladybug has given people are now capable of being destroyed, as of now they are the only thing she can offer to the akumatized civilians, the reason being is because although they are not as strong as before, they can still help bring a sense of ease towards Parisian when they are being given something to be hopeful in. The charms can still help them by letting them know and believe they at least now poses something which can help protect them to some extent rather than be left with nothing at all and remain in a state of fear over the risk  of being akumatized. By continuing to distribute the charms, Ladybug can at least help reduce the risk of negativity in Paris in order to help prevent Hawkmoth from finding more victims.
Ignore the haters who say they don’t matter because clearly they do since she is still giving them to people.
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teawinx · 2 years
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Can I ask what all annoys you about Marinette's grandfather?
I'm not very eloquent, so I'll use a comparison to explain my feelings, okay? And to be extra mean I'll compare it to Encanto
Roland, Marinette's grand-father, does the reverse of Abuella when it comes to reconciling with his family. I know the show doesn't SAY he's racist, but it's fairly obvious to me. He leaves after Tom marries a Chinese woman and uses a non-french style of bread-making. And then doesn't talk to them for at least 14 years, as Marinette has never met him.
But then it's on Marinette to bring Roland back to the family, needing to go as far as to disguise herself just so her grandfather will TALK to her. It's Marinette's responsibility to "fix" her racist grandfather's world view. And I think that's gross.
In contrast, it's Abuella who seeks out Mirabel in Encanto. Abuella apologizes and puts in the work to make things right of her own accord. Mirabel doesn't do any of that for her.
But instead, because Miraculous likes to pretend it's not racist, it makes the POC granddaughter put in the work for her racist grandparent, despite him not doing a damn thing to make things right. It's all on her to prove to him that the rice flour is good. It's up to her to fix the family, despite just being a kid.
And then Roland is let back into the family, hugs and kisses all around, and he gets off scot free.
People criticize the episode "Quilin", rightfully so, but the og racist episode is "Bakerix"
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aldrendaux · 5 months
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Chapters: 71/71 Fandom: Miraculous Ladybug Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Alya Césaire & Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, onesided Ninette, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir & Nino Lahiffe Characters: Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Roland Dupain, Gina Dupain, Wang Cheng, Chloé Bourgeois, Alya Césaire, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Bridgette (Miraculous Ladybug), Nino Lahiffe, Lila Rossi Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Bee!Rose, snake!Chloé, Kwami Swap Summary:
Marinette's parents have died, leaving her all alone in the world at five. And with limited options, she has no choice but to live with her grandfather.
Roland Dupain never got to make amends with his son, but perhaps he can do right by him by raising his daughter. And Roland does love Marinette. But that doesn't mean he lets go of his traditional ways of thinking.
AU created by chibiphoebe https://chibiphoebe.tumblr.com/
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clarkgriffon · 2 years
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one gifset per episode → bakerix
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flightfoot · 1 year
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In your reblog about Roland, honestly I never understand why people think he's racist. Idk if it's because I'm not westerner so I don't understand western metaphor or I'm just stupid but I never see Roland as racist, I see him as a stubborn grandpa who's anxious or scared of change or just simply don't like change because it will mess the entire cells of his brain. He remind me of my own grandfather who refuse to learn something new just because and he was hardly the only old person who do that. So yeah, idk why he's seen as racist but then again some people now a days really like to think or claim thing as racist as if it's a trend. *shrug*
It basically comes down to him objecting to rice flour being added to the bread, which Sabine probably was the one to suggest given it's more commonly used in Chinese cooking, and him stopping leaving his house around the time that Sabine and Tom would have gotten together, with him even missing their wedding, judging by the marriage photos.
That being said I do think that him being anxious and scared of change, especially of his hyperfixation, baking, explains it better, given how specific his ire seems to be towards rice flour and towards anything newer in general, while not actually having any problem talking with Sabine or Marinette.
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gameguy20100 · 2 years
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Roland:So that Chloe Bourgeois is giving you and your friends problems. Say no more. * give her something*
Marinette:?! Is this your bread paddle?!
Roland:You have the power,Marinette!
Marinette:*hyped* LET’S GOOOO!
Roland: Back in my day we beat up our bullies. That's how it's done!
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ladysunamireads · 2 years
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Carottes à la Forestière
Carottes à la Forestière by Emmalylis
Post Hawkmoth defeat, Adrien comes to live with the Dupain-Chengs. Life with a healthy family is a new experience, but Adrien is enthusiastic about participating in their traditions.
Words: 2454, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Miraculous Ladybug
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: Gen
Characters: Roland Dupain, Gina Dupain, Tom Dupain, Sabine Cheng, Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Tikki, Plagg
Relationships: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir & Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Roland Dupain & Tikki
Additional Tags: Food, Cooking, Family Fluff, Fluff, Fainting, Post-Reveal Pre-Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Post-Hawk Moth Defeat
Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/39352227
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things-about-my-dad · 7 months
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We watched the Miraculous Ladybug episode where Marinette goes to see her grandfather (s3e4), and when Marinette asks “why hasn’t grandpa left the house in 20 years?” My dad turns to me and says “because he’s in an urn.”
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bookdragonlibrary · 1 year
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Roland VS André
In the previous episode, we thought Roland and André could be teammates (or hero and sidekick) because they have French flag akuma design.
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But we were wrong xD
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alstroemeriatea · 2 years
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Sabine Cheng Remembers
Sabine Cheng remembers growing up in rural China, and the rice fields on the outskirts of her village where she and her cousins splashed around in while their parents farmed their crops. sometimes, she hears the flap of pigeons wings outside of her kitchen and thinks wild herons are soaring above her again.
Sabine Cheng remembers leaving her country of origin, and moving to France to study the fine art of pastry, and the large hands of the clumsy boy named Tom that folded layers of butter into his dough beside her. he knew a few words in italian, as his mother was from italy.
Sabine Cheng remembers her wedding day, and her uncle arriving to walk her down the aisle. he told her he loved her like his own daughter in Chinese before they got to the alter. her eyes were misted over before she even said her vows.
Sabine Cheng remembers her only daughter being born, and the scream the echoed in the hospital room as marinette was thrust into her arms. her daughter had the same almond eyes as she did, and if she squinted right her black hair seemed almost blue in the hospital light.
Sabine Cheng remembers buying her daughter a pair of pink ballet flats for her fifth birthday, and riding the bus through the streets of paris. they were familiar now, and Marinette’s legs swung back and forth on the bus after their trip. Marinette never liked the stay still.
Sabine Cheng remembers when Marinette began to pine after that Agreste boy, and she prayed with all of her heart that he wouldn’t break hers. her daughter was far too young to fear love, and for all she knew, the boy was lonely. perhaps he would frequent her house and she could bake treats for him as well.
Sabine Cheng remembers when Marinette began to lose sleep, and when she began to scream in the middle of the night. akuma attacks had begun to frequent their city. paris was restless and afraid. it broke her to realize her daughter was among them.
Sabine Cheng remembers seeing that girl in red atop their house on Marinettes balcony a few nights in a row, and pondering these things in her heart. she wondered if that young heroine knew just how loved she was, and that she was would sleep safe above tom and her bedroom that night. she wouldn’t interfere with what seemed like destiny.
Sabine Cheng remembers more things than one usually does.
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wield-the-mighty-pen · 10 months
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In keeping up with the ml tradition of the most random people telling key pieces of information to our main characters, I think that it should be Mr. Banana who tells Adrien that he is a sentimonster, Roland Dupain who tells him that his father was actually Hawkmoth, and Jagged Stone’s pet crocodile Fang who tells him that Marinette is actually Ladybug
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teawinx · 2 years
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Bakerix rewrite:
I’m enjoying doing mini rewrites for episodes, and I’ve made it clear how much Bakerix steams my ham
Buuuuut for this rewrite, I’m gonna go crazy and treat the young audience with respect and intelligence I know I know, I’m asking a lot of Miraculous but I promise I’ll make it worth it
So, instead of the weird “old and new” message they tried (???) to shove down our throats, my Bakerix will discuss racism.
(Trigger warning, references to racism, but also calling that shit out)
The episode starts with Marinette wondering what she could do for her dad’s birthday, and figures she could try and reconnect him with his father. But she doesn’t know why they fell out in the first place.
So, just like in canon, she asks her parents and grandmother about it, and no one is willing to tell her.
Annoyed by this, Marinette doesn’t really know how to proceed so tries to think of something else to give her dad. However, while she’s out and about she’s approached by Roland himself. In a disguise, and he needs to actually prove that he IS her grandfather and not some weirdo.
He tells her that he got kicked out unfairly and that he wants them to be a family again. He instructs Marinette to help him with that. Putting in a good word for him, and basically pressures her into putting in the work for him. Claiming it’s her responsibility to “fix the family”.
I’m cloudy on the exact details, but when Marinette finally brings Roland to the Bakery as a surprise, her parents and grandmother are NOT pleased to see him. Argument happens, and Roland shows his true colours when he blames Sabine for “destroying this family”. He’s akumatised into Bakerix.
The heroes defeat him, and leave him to get home by himself.
Then, Tom and Sabine (And Gina) finally sit Marinette down and explain the situation. Roland left because he’s racist, and that it was wrong of them to have kept Marinette in the dark about it (and apologize to her for it). And they assure her that under no circumstance was it her responsibility to redeem Roland.
The four of them celebrate Tom’s Birthday together, without Roland
And scene!
I know this wouldn’t be the funniest or the most chipper of episodes, but I don’t think tackling the issue of racism and family conflict is the right time for jokes.
I want the ep to have two messages, one for the kids and one for the adults It’s not your responsibility to “redeem” your racist relatives, that’s on them And (for the adults) it’s important to COMMUNICATE with your children, even when the topics can be tough.
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toxinellebug · 4 months
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Shadybug/ClawNoir supporting character Headcanons
Jagged Stone? More like Jared Smith. He wanted to be a rockin musician, but his type of music is banned by the Supreme so his career never took off. Instead, he ended up marrying his girlfriend, Nannette Couffaine, after accidentally knocking her up with twins, released his pet crocodile into the Seine, got an apartment, and works a regular job that he HATES. But, he secretly still tries to record music and sells it on the black market where it has become somewhat popular in the indie underground, but if he were caught he would go to prison for sure. It’s not a happy marriage but he does what he has to. His kids last names are hyphenated Couffaine-Smith.
No houseboat, and without Royalties from music labels, neither Juleka or Luka could afford to go to Francois Dupont
Penny works as an assistant for Bob Roth and HATES IT. The man is a sexist slave driver, but this business is brutal.
Nadja Chamack is not a news anchor. You can’t be a single mother AND have a career that takes up so much of your time. As a result, Marinette has never had to babysit Manon.
Lila wants to challenge Chloe’s position as queen of the school, but there are no lies about charity work, only lies of what powerful and famous connections she has.
Adrien is not interested in being friendly with Lila, and definitely not going to help her with schoolwork. But he is still the ultimate trophy and key to winning popularity in Lila’s eyes, so she is determined to “win him over”, even though he finds her almost as annoying as Chloe, but Chloe he is stuck with due to her mom’s working relationship with his dad.
Gabriel doesn’t trust Lila one bit.
The sad and negative emotions he is forced to sense due to the power of the Butterfly brooch cause him distress, and he often has to excuse himself due to “headaches” from overworking, as a creative’s work is never done… But he is always listening for the emotions of people crying out for justice, for help, for people who wish they had the power to help.
Andre Glacier is still the Sweetheart’s ice-cream maker, but Sweetheart’s ice-cream is just a special menu item that you can request. Otherwise he has a scheduled route and serves the ice-cream that customers ask for.
Alya’s dad wishes the zoo could focus more on animal enrichment and larger enclosures but they don’t have the budget for such “unnecessary extravagences”.
Mr. Haprel hopes to make it as a famous Mime one day so he can be rich enough to afford to send his daughter, Mylene, to the school he works at as a janitor.
Everyone avoids Ivan.
Thomas Astruc never made it as a famous director, rather, the Supreme favored his University Rival, Andre Bourgeois, who also owns the Le Grande Paris Hotel.
Gina and Roland Dupain are not divorced/separated per say… Gina was sent to prison for civil disobedience. That’s why Tom is a doormat and just goes along with whatever discipline Sabine decides on because he doesn’t want his precious little girl to end up a criminal like her grandmother.
Sabine does not teach an inkpainting class on the weekend or practice tai chi or feng shui.
The walls of Marinette’s home are not pink, they are a boring beige that she hates.
The Agreste Manor is not a sterile, black and white modern decor dungeon. It is a prism of color, function, form, beauty and nature with nods to antiquity and the whimsical. Adrien HATES it. All color and light left this world when his mother died. The art in his house mocks his pain.
There is no school blog for Nathaniel to post his art on… But Marc ended up in that class instead of Marinette. (So did Mireille) He’s still too shy to admit he’s a writer. And even more shy to admit he has a crush on Nathaniel, so all he can do is watch the boy quietly. Rose thinks it’s a romantic tragedy and wants to play matchmaker. Alex thinks it’d be a disaster waiting to happen.
There is no Prince Ali who gives toys to sick kids in hospitals.
There is nothing as frivolous as videogame tournaments, so Max devotes all his spare time to his hobby of robotics and developing an AI… but developing an artificial intelligence is frowned upon. Luckily, Alya can keep a secret… that is, if Max is willing to spare some of his time to helping her havkninto the dark web to research conspiracy theories.
Wayhem is obseesed with Adrien, who can’t stand crazy fanatics and won’t lose any sleep if the Gorilla tackles the scrawny boy to the ground.
After much convincing, bullsh**ing, and bribes, Gabriel is able to host his derby hat design competition at Francois Dupont, (and hopefully, modelling his classmate’s creations will be a bonding point for Adrien to make a new friend) Rose sees it as an opportunity to tries to get Marc and Nathaniel to work with her to create a hat, hoping sparks will fly between them.
Even if Marinette WANTED to enter a stupid contest involving that spoiled, stuck-up Agreste boy, which she DOESN’T, her mother won’t allow it because sewing and doodling outfits is a distraction from her schoolwork.
Chloe still cheats.
But Shadybug discreetly sabotages the fashion show the winning hat is supposed to feature in.
Nathalie never became Gabriel’s assistant or even acquaintance. Instead, she is in charge of the department of the Louvre that archives and locks away all “banned” art and artifacts (aka anything related to Miraculous holders)
Alex thinks she’s creepy and hates how she coldly bosses around her dad.
Audrey is the same as ever, with the exception that she recognizes that her younger daughter Zoe has some talent, and wants Andre to find a movie part for her to play, and ignores Chloe’s bitter jealousy which causes her to lash out at others even nastier than in Ladybug and Cat Noir’s universe.
Nino is treated rudely and ignored by Adrien. Adrien would never agree to play a role in Nino’s movie and even accuses Nino of trying to use Adrien’s celebrity status to give himself an unfair advantage in the student movie competition.
Adrien doesn’t have time for stupid group projects or after school activities. But not because he has a full schedule since this Universe’s Gabriel is a decent father who does not demand perfection and give a 14 year old a burdensome schedule… It’s because outside of fencing and modeling, Adrien plans to spend his time planning out which sections of the city he’s going to take his anger out on that night.
Gabriel never forgot his roots as the son of a fry-cook, and occasionally tries to cook comfort food (NOT PANCAKES) for Adrien, who insists he’s not hungry or that junk is bad for his skin/weight, which has Gavriel worried about Adrien developing body dysphoria and eating disorders… These worries are put to rest when he finds out Adrien has suddenly developed a sweet tooth for baked goods. Therefore he has no qualms about his son frequenting the local bakery so often because a growing boy needs to eat and a treat is good for the spirit.
He wishes he could be more honest with Adrien, but he knows that it would destroy his son if he ever found out that the sickness that took his mother’s life was caused by his creation… He’s also not sure what kind of trauma Adrien would have to the fact he’s not human.
Gabriel also doesn’t want Adrien in danger. Gabriel wants to create a better world for his son to live in, a world where he and everyone else can be free! Where people can throve without stepping over others, and the poor don’t have to suffer. Where people have rights to love freely and express opinions without fear. A world where people help one another.
Gabriel would never use the rings to control Adrien, instead, he keeps them locked away in a safe, and plans to give them to Adrien someday when he is an adult and less likrly to misplace them because if they were to fall into the wrong hands, Gabriel shudders to think of what would become of Adrien.
Audrey still has a low key crush on Gabriel which makes him cringe but he still acts polite to keep up working relations, and he also pities his friend Andre, trapped in a one-sided marriage and bullied by his daughter and his wife.
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