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i-want-my-iwtv · 2 months

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I will be delusional as I want BUT I'll pretend that tom cruise going back to Warner Bros means we'll finally get the deleted scenes from the iwtv please please manifesting

🙏🙏🙏 Anon, embrace being delusional! I wish! If anyone's connected with Warner Bros please please tell them we want the deleted scenes!

Anyway since we're on the topic... over the years I've talked about wanting the cut scenes, and I wanted to reflect for a moment on why we want them. I think we want them because, like a delicious cake, once it's all consumed, we still look at the serving plate, hoping we can still lick the icing off the knife, or maybe the baker has some leftover cake back in the kitchen?? Or maybe they can tell us that the secret ingredient to intensifying the chocolate is ESPRESSO... We just want another taste so badly! We want to know the secret ingredients that set it apart from other cakes. And some filmmakers know that, and sometimes they're happy to share the cut scenes on a DVD release, maybe with commentary as to why the scenes were cut, like:

"Here's a scene were Louis kills a priest and ultimately we had an overall run time limit of 2 hours, but it was otherwise a perfectly good scene."

"Here's part of a set of scenes we shot early on where Lestat shows mortal Louis what killing entails, and although we loved it, we ended up improving the Lestat makeup & hair a few weeks later, and for the sake of continuity we had to cut it bc we couldn't go back to that location to reshoot, or it would have taken too much time to fix in post, etc."

Giving over the cut scenes is a little like an artist showing the scrapped versions of a painting composition, and that's fine when the creator wants to invite the viewers into their artistic process, but I think the IWTV filmmakers at the time (and for years after) really wanted the '94 movie to be serious* to the point that releasing cut scenes could have undermined their overall vision... maybe they simply didn't want to invite the audience into their creative process.

(*Serious, BUT there was certainly plenty of beauty, charm, dark humor, intimacy, desire, so much more! Maybe the filmmakers cut scenes that THEY felt didn't mesh well with the overall story they wanted to tell, like putting together an outfit and choosing accessories that go better rather than others... you know?)

WITH THAT SAID... What cut scenes would you have liked to see? That's what fanfic and fanart are for, so tell us and maybe someone will be inspired to create it for all of us 💝

IF Tom was still part of VC at all... one of my personal fantasy casting ideas was to have Tom play the Marquis in TVL, and now he's really old enough to do it! 😅 Can you imagine?? Tom playing his own horrible father! Cast younger actors to play kid!Lestat, teen!Lestat, etc.?? Tom!Marquis showing obvious preference for his two older brothers and being horrible to Gabrielle... it could be amazing.

Obviously it wouldn't be adorable like this but... I've always loved Tom Cruise characters when he interacts with kids and teens, he's always seemed very in touch with his inner child, even when that inner child is more of a 12 yo brat. Whole novels could be written on his layered performances with child and teen actors, but for now, just a few thoughts...

^From Jerry Maguire. I can't quite articulate why this was so compelling... iirc, maybe because his character is really frustrated/demoralized in this scene, and there's something comforting about a kid naively telling you that "the human head weighs 8 pounds," as if to say, "Your problems are not really as big a deal as you think they are; live in the present moment." And Tom in this character seems to absorb that deeper meaning and it gives him some relief, it's a step towards his character's growth.

When Tom played Ray in War of the Worlds, he had a teenage son, and there was a heartbreaking scene where Ray had to choose between protecting his son or his daughter. From That Moment In:

Desperate to keep his family together, Ray is forced to leave the terrified Rachel alone for a moment as he puts his weight on Robbie and forces him to the ground as the air around them lights up with smoke and tracer fire. Meanwhile, another couple, fleeing the madness, sees Rachel standing by herself and attempt to rescue her, not knowing that her father is nearby. Looking back, Ray sees this and becomes torn between his children, not wanting to lose either but forced to choose. Robbie assures his father that this is what he wants, “I want to see this,” and to please let him go, which Ray finally, achingly, submits to, seeing that Rachel is being whisked away. Father and son say goodbye as Robbie runs over the crest and Ray rushes down to get his daughter as a hellfire of explosion overtake the hills, giving us the impression Robbie has met his end.

I just love the idea of Tom playing the very character that had caused so much pain for Lestat, that Lestat was always on defense from that man, looooong after he died. Despite all the torment the Marquis inflicted on Lestat, Lestat still gave him a comfortable place to live out his last few years, the roles pretty much reversed as happens with aging parents, Lestat actually nurturing this man (not always in the kindest way but still!) in his feeble old age... and couldn't bring himself to even kill him out of mercy.

Nature & Nurture, Lestat was damaged by his father genetically and emotionally in his formative years, and so much of Lestat's bravado and verbal attacks seem to be a shield for the awful feelings of growing up unloved, unwanted, and beaten for expressing his own desires. So much so that even in canon he often expresses the intensity of his desires far more eloquently and frequently in the narration than he's able to do verbally, even with the characters he cherishes the most. Because to express his love exposed himself to losing it.

Tom could for sure pull off a performance that would capture the Marquis, because he essentially played Lestat with the qualities of a victim perpetuating some of the abuse he suffered from the man who was supposed to be (and was!) his role model for becoming the man he became. 😭

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suikamelon6 · 4 months

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I've uploaded Ch.8 of Come (Back) to Me Louis & the de Lioncourts - dinner with inlaws ala S1E1 but the other way around, circa 1780 in Auvergne France. I had fun with this. I hope you do too. https://archiveofourown.org/works/52027846/chapters/133520857

#iwtv fic #loustat fic #louis x lestat #time travel #gabrielle de lioncourt #marquis de lioncourt #augustin de lioncourt

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nashvillethotchicken · 6 days

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Assuming lestat is actually six feet (seems like a lie but whatever), how big were his parents that after years of abuse and childhood malnutrition from poverty, that mf is still 6 feet tall?

#i personally dont think lestat is lying about his height cus hes described as being big height wise in other books but #but i digress #childhood malnutrition really stunts your growth so for him to get up to 6 feet is a biological marvel #how big were them parents? how tall is gabrielle? how tall is the marquis???#6 foot and thin god i know he gotta tape that thang to his leg to walk around sorry the spirit of ldpdl came over me there #interview with the vampire #iwtv #amc iwtv #lestat de lioncourt #the vampire lestat #imagine how big lestat woulda been without the routine starving like oh my god #like lestat has always been described as well built and muscular in contrast to louis who is waifish so it woulda been crazy #like seeing a pitbull with a whippet

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covenofthearticulate · 2 years

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sorry to keep harping on this but i also just feel like the fact that louis will no longer meet and care for (and kill) lestat’s father is like…..really detrimental to how his relationship with lestat develops because the marquis is lestat’s last tie to humanity, the last living piece of evidence that lestat was not so removed from his mortality as he would have louis think.

lestat’s father was proof that he was not born a monster.

i think lestat asking louis to kill his father is such an important part of the narrative that contributes to why louis is more forgiving (or, at the very least, more understanding) of lestat than claudia ever was because like, everyone likes to point out that claudia will never remember her few years before her turning, but equally as devastating is that she never truly knew of lestat OR louis’ human families.

louis knew the human part of lestat, just as lestat knew the human ties to louis in his mother and sister. louis played chess with the marquis, sat down every night for FOUR YEARS eating at empty plates with him. and there is just such rich symbolism in the cyclical nature of lestat taking louis’ mortal life, and louis in turn extinguishing the last living part of lestat’s human life.

but now i’m just wondering…if they intend to keep lestat’s backstory the same (with the added 100+ years of doing fuck-all, i guess), then what happens to the marquis? does he die a natural death? does lestat still care for him in his old age?

#i'm FUCKED UP ABOUT IT OKAY????#i know it was left out of the movie as well and i know this is a louis-centric narrative but like #lestat's relationship to his father was so messy and interesting and if they intend to go back and tell the story of lestat's upbringing #it would be so INTERESTING to introduce the marquis at the end of his life before showing how he treated lestat before #but genuinely what the FUCK was lestat doing for the whole of the 19th century like hello???? help #(sorry i keep coming back here to post like 'AND ANOTHER THING!!' asdfghesfj #Lestat De Lioncourt #Louis de Pointe du Lac #amc iwtv #iwtv amc

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murfpersonalblog · 9 months

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Thanks for tagging me @little-desi-historian! ❤️

YES, all of this takes me back to something I wanted to touch a lot more on in my original post when it comes to the historical male image, Percy, Lestat, and Matadors; because it truly does link back to how AMC is playing with dandyism and society's expectations about effeminate men.

Dandyism is a form of resistance culture. As I've said before, Lestat flouts gender norms because HE CAN do whatever he wants & get away with it. His androgyny's on a different level: effeminate or masculine, he's still a vampire, a SUPERnatural creature elevated beyond the bounds of social mores that determine what men & women could or SHOULD act/dress like. MANY people across social media have pointed to Lestat's limp wrists, long blonde "Barbie" hair and ESPECIALLY him dressing in drag in Ep7 as proof that he's the "wife/mother/woman/femme fatale" in Lousta's relationship, and THEN claim its either gender essentialism or homophobic/racist to say Louis is CANONICALLY female-coded one in BOTH the books and show (as AR said so). But no, Lestat in drag was a power move, because he doesn't care what anyone thinks/says/does--he'll just eat them. Mockingly eating the baby in a dress was a deliberate bastardization of motherhood/womanhood. Louis is called every homophobic name in the book by those expecting the black man to just take being insulted, but MARQUIS de Lioncourt DEMANDS being crowned KING of Mardi Gras, Krewe of Raj, & he'll show you exactly what he thinks about your silly homophobic hypocritical human society: You're just "the MEAT," let them eat KING Cake--you're his FOOD. Eff y'all, I'm dressed to KILL you, & laugh doing it.

Lestat's behavior is not only derived from the time period he was born & raised in (the Rococo era of so-called "effeminate" high class dandies--a la Percy Blakeney, etc). Lestat is the embodiment of PRIVILEGE: a powerful rich white male vampire, who leans into being foreign/French White to excuse anything he does that people find strange/off/unnatural/dangerous--all the red flags. 🚩🚩🚩

And red flags brings me directly back to matadors/toreros.

@toscrollperchancetomeme

😂 TYSM! Sam Reid dropped so many juicy deets; I couldn't resist! There's so much depth to the Matador outfit, beyond the gendered aspect of bullfighting that I discussed before. Let's go back to what Sam said about Lestat, and delve deeper into matadors:

The most iconic apparel worn by toreros ("bullfighters") / matador de toros ("killer of bulls") in Spanish bullfighting is the Traje de Luces, the "Suit of Lights." The colors are usually bright & vivid, as part of the showmanship & pizzazz. Darker palettes are less common, as shiny sequins (the luces/lights) became part of the standard fit.

However, Lestat's all-black Matador outfit from what Sam called the "villain sequence" in Ep5 seems to be loosely following the style of a different but very closely related outfit, the Traje Campero "Rural/Countryside Suit" aka Traje Corto ("Short Suit").

(These costumes are typically worn during ceremonial parades and a very specific festival I'll get back to in a moment, cuz it's important.) Unlike the Suit of Light's sequins & silk, the Rural Suit is made of suede, leather, or velvet, in dark muted colors. The pants can be light or dark, striped & patterned, with or without chaps (also found in gentleman's uniforms of military officers and cowboys).

The trajes originated from "the flamboyant costumes of the 18th-century dandies and showmen involved in bullfighting, which later became exclusive to the bullfighting ritual." (Wikipedia)

The ancestor of both trajes (luces/campero) is traditional 17th-19th century Andalusian clothing (Andalusia being the home of Spanish bullfighting), closely associated with a very particular type of masculine dandyism. (The campero/corto is also the costume worn by Andalusian male flamenco dancers.)

"Before the 17th century the profession of bullfighting did not exist as such, and the fighters did not wear luxurious & shiny trajes de luces, but instead normal clothes of the time according to the social class to which the bullfighter belonged. The first bullfighter trajes de toreros appeared in the 17th century, when professional bullfighters from Navarre & Andalusia wore characteristic garments with their gangs to participate in performances and thus differentiate themselves from other bullfighter bands." (translated/truncated from Spanish website)

In the mid-1700s, Francisco Romero revolutionized professional bullfighting by establishing the first matadors who fought on foot, heroically fighting the bull face to face with swords & the muleta (iconic red flag) in a dance-like performance, dressed in a suede/velvet coleto (jacket), a precursor to the traje campero. Romero (from a carpenter family) wanted to show off & stand out from the nobility, and changed the game entirely, through a form of social resistance-turned-innovation.

"At that time, bullfighting on horseback was more important, which was considered a sport and not a show. Bullfighting on foot was not yet widely recognized." (translated from Spanish website)

Bull-killing on horseback was practiced by Spanish noblemen, attended by lower class assistants on foot. Romero was the first to make on-foot matadors the stars of what was increasingly becoming a dandified show/performance/dance. Matador Joaquin "Costillares" Rodríguez introduced even more showmanship, competing against Francisco Romero's grandson Pedro Romero (famously painted by Goya--bottom right).

For his matches, Costillares (middle) dressed in flashy silks, threaded in shiny silver braiding; the precursor to modern traje de luces. Like Francisco Romero (left), Costillares wanted to show off & stand out; and revolutionized the male image of the bullfighter through clothes.

In 18th-19th century Andalusian Spain there were 2 types of dandy: the French-imported upperclass petimetre (effeminate dandy), and the indigenous working class majo (masculine/macho dandy).

Noyes, Dorothy. “La Maja Vestida: Dress as Resistance to Enlightenment in Late-18th-Century Madrid.” The Journal of American Folklore 111, no. 440 (1998): 197–217. https://www.jstor.org/stable/541941

The majo, like many dandies, became the peak of Andalusian fashion, across all social classes; and torero/matador outfits weren't the only ones to take cues from them:

18th-19th century majos "distinguished themselves by their elaborate outfits and sense of style in dress and manners, as well as by their cheeky behavior. The majos outfits were exaggerations of traditional Spanish dress. The style stood in strong contrast to the French styles affected by many of the Spanish elite under the influence of the Enlightenment. Majos were known to pick fights with those they saw as afrancesados ("Frenchified" – fops)." (Wikipedia)

The majos' flamboyant/cheeky/saucy/exaggerated behavior was aggressively masculine; a lower/working class resistance to social mores imposed on them by (foreign) elites, whom they saw as more feminine, and FOUGHT against, to reaffirm their masculinity. These dandies were violent, brazen non-conformists; as beautiful & stylish as they were dangerous. And matadors/toreros knew that the bullfight was the perfect arena to exemplify the spirit of the majos through the dandified performance art/sport of killing bulls--a universal cultural symbol of masculine prowess & strength. Spanish bullfighting used to belong solely to the aristocratic equestrian sphere. Lowly pages/assistants like Francisco Romero (dressed in the precursor to the Rural/Countryside Suit), were the first to buck the system by killing bulls on foot--he likely didn't own a horse. The Romeros were from a carpenter family. Costillares was the son of a butcher. But through bullfighting they gained social status and became icons of masculinity--and dandies.

Lestat--the nouveau riche son of a poor country marquis--insists on being all the beautiful things he is without apology: masculine & effeminate alike. But like I said, it was no coincidence that Carol likened Lestat's Ep5 villain outfit with matadors--he's fighting Louis for dominance in their household, and reaffirming his place at the top of their very gendered social hierarchy, as a warning to BOTH "the housewife" AND "the prodigal daughter" he feels are threatening his authority as their Maker, so he defeats them BOTH.

Carol Cutshall initially designed Lestat's matador pants as pajamas--loungewear. (Lestat's CASUAL & comfortable in his ability to KILL--matador means "Killer" in Spanish--and remember what I said about Louis & Claudia being put on the same parallel level in Ep5, when Claudia's attacked by "Killer" aka Bruce.) Sam said Carol made several versions of the pants; and yup, they're foreshadowed in Ep5 when Lestat first starts arguing about Louis' depression, then they pop up again in Ep7 during the Murder Plot--two instances @dwreader brilliantly linked Lestat (& Stanley Kowalski) wearing wifebeaters. (Listen, Carol, I just wanna talk.... 😅🔫)

And here's my last points about Lestat's matador outfit. First there's the irony of Lestat (who grew up poor in rural France) wearing the something very similar to the matador/torero's Rural Suit, traje campero (aka Short Suit (traje corto)). But what's more interesting is that that type of Short/Rural Suit is usually only worn during special festivals called the Tienta ("trials"), not the regular corrida ("bullfights").

These Tienta are trials for young and immature bulls to be tested in the ring, to see if they're fit for breeding/fighting. 🤯 FLEDGLINGS. And who's Lestat's young bull? "Built-like-a-bird" Claudia. Who's the immature bull? The "biggest rat eater of them all," the under-developed "botched" vampire Louis. During these trials, veteran matadors can show off their skills; and novice bullfighters are shown the ropes and prove themselves. Like I said: the matador wins again.

God, even the way Lestat dragged Louis' bloody body out of the courtyard by the jaw/neck resembles the way the defeated bull--bled out & stabbed in the neck--is dragged by the neck out of the ring.

And remember what I said about Lestat and FOOD. Cuz what happens to the bulls after the matadors kill them? They're sent to the slaughterhouse to be butchered for FOOD. People EAT the bulls.

So yeah, my whole point in this post and my first one is not to sleep on guys like Lestat, Percy--or even other famous dandies like Valmont from Dangerous Liasions/Cruel Intentions (mentioned by both @little-desi-historian and @dwreader)--just because they're effeminate--especially when they're emulating mannerisms from a time period where the model of what made a fashionable gentlemen/good breeding/elite society did NOT match modern expectations about gender. People are getting distracted by Lestat's yaasified manner, not what the show itself is signalling through the relationships he has with others.

This show is deliberately painting Lestat as a villain through Louis' & Claudia's perspectives, as they were the ones who suffered under his Reign of Terror. The symbolism behind the matador-inspired costume used in Ep5 reflected gendered social hierarchies embedded within bullfighting culture (in Spain, women only started being allowed to fight in the 19th-20th centuries). Dressed in clothes resembling that of a matador, Lestat beating & defeating Louis mirrored the defeat of the emasculated bull, and the reification of the victor's masculine prowess at the top of the foodchain.

#the vampire lestat #lestat de lioncourt #male fashion #fashion history #gender inequality #read a dang history book #operation matador

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dwreader · 7 months

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st. louis day 6 - canon divergence (more like crack au but whatever)

iwtv created by shonda rhimes, inspired by jokes / conversations with some very sick individuals.

racism and homophobia no longer exist because lincoln was never assassinated and also he came out as gay or something (shonda's rules). the du lac family are old money southern aristocracy who have fallen from the social heights of the previous generation. after his sister's wedding to a man of middling wealth and standing, louis is sent on a grand tour of europe in order to attract a wealthy husband with a title so the family might regain their status. on his stop in paris, he meets the mysterious marquis de lioncourt with a vast fortune of questionable origin but is also romantically pursued by avant-garde theatre director armand. who will louis marry???

also even though racism/homophobia ended, royalty and nobility still exist don't ask why.

#this is the dumbest thing i've ever posted #iwtvfanevents #why did we have so many shondaverse jokes afssdfsd #i would never write this cause its too dumb so im making a low effort post

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astarion-dekarios · 1 year

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Not the Marquis of the Auvergne

...just a Marquis from the Auvergne

If you're insane like me, Lestat's backstory has bothered you from the minute you read that his father was the Marquis d'Auvergne, because you know that there never has been a Marquis d'Auvergne, and anyway if his father is important enough to be in charge of the Entire (quite large) territory, why are they living in a tiny village in the middle of nowhere?

Well! It all makes sense if his father is actually the Marquis d'Anjony ! Anjony is the name of a French castle and former marquisate situated in the tiny Auvergnat village of Tournemire, which today boasts about 145 people and back then had maybe 200. It's small and rural enough to be actually threatened by a pack of 8 wolves, but close enough to a decently-sized city (Aurillac) that drapers like the de Lenfents can make some actual money by selling their things elsewhere.

But wait, why is Lestat's family name "de Lioncourt ?" Well, the historical lords d'Anjony had a similar situation where the feudal title (d'Anjony) was held by a woman, who then married a man from a different family (de Léotoing, which... actually has some shared elements with de Lioncourt), and their children had the feudal title and a different family name. So the same thing easily could have happened in Lestat's family past.

The chateau d'Anjony also has the benefit of still existing today!! So of course here are some photographs of it. Looks just like I imagined Lestat's family's castle, anyway.

#iwtv #lestat de lioncourt #lestat #iwtv meta #the vampire lestat #why do I have two blorbos that I've headcanoned to be from Aurillac #and are around within a couple decades of each other

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slutformelatonin · 11 days

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My rules/ fandoms I will write for!

Hello! I am Julia, I am a 20 y/o writer and AVID reader. I am apart of SOSOSOSO many fandoms! Here are fandoms I will write for. (Keep in mind that I am just getting started writing again. Please be patient and know that I am doing my best. I am still in uni so it may be hard doe me to upload as much as I'd like. Please please send me any and ALL requested for characters that seem appealing to you!!) But, here are some things I will NOT write for. Racism, homophobia, transphobia, incest, stepcest, necrophilia, somnophilia. I am writing smut and all you'd have to do for a certain character is dm me or request it !;)

Harry Potter.

Lucius Malfoy

Harry Potter

Hermione Granger

Ron Wesley

George and Fred Wesley

Severus Snape

Luna lovegood

Draco Malfoy

Narcissa Malfoy

Bellatrix Lestrange

Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Tony Stark

Steve Rogers

Loki Laufeyson

Natasha Romanoff

Wanda Maximoff

Vision

Miles Morales

Gwen Stacy

Miguel O'hara

Star Wars

Anakin Skywalker

Luke Skywalker

Leia Skywalker

Padmé Amidalla

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Han solo

Lando Calrissian

Rey

Kylo Ren

Diabolik lovers

Ayato Sakamaki

Laito Sakamaki

Kanato Sakamaki

Azusa Mukami

Shu Sakamaki

Kou Mukami

Yuma Mukami

Reiji

Cordelia

Ruki Mukami

Yui Komori

Subaru Sakamaki

Carla Tsukinami

Kou Mukami

Shin Tsukinami

Richter

Natasha, Pierre And the great comet of 1812

Pierre Bezukhov

Natasha Rostova

Marya Dmitriyevna

Fedya Dolokhov

Anatole Kuragin

Hamilton

Angelica Schuyler

Aaron Burr

Alexander Hamilton

George III

Marquis De Lafayette

George Washington

Peggy Schuyler

Thomas Jefferson

John Laurens

James Madison

Hercules Mulligan

Maria Reynolds

Eliza Schuyler

Philip Hamilton

Interview with the vampire

Lestat De Lioncourt

Louis De Pointe du Lac

Claudia De pointe du Lac

Aarmand

HOND

Claude Frollo

Phoebus

Esmerelda

Arcane

Jinx

Sevika

Caitlyn

Jayce

Viktor

Silco

Ambessa Medarda

Wicked

Elpheba

Fieyro

The outsiders

Darry

Sodapop

Ponyboy

Dally

Johnny

Two-bit

Steve

Cherry

Marsha

Curly

Tim Shepherd

Angela Shepherd

Voltron

Axca

Romelle

Klance

Allurance

Gotham (2016)

Jerome Valeska

Jeremiah Valeska

Bruce Wayne

Selena Kyle

AHS

Tate Langdon

Violet Harmon

Lana Winters

Kit Walker

Jimmy Darling

Micheal Langdon

MPHFPC

Enoch O'connor

Anastasia

Anastasia Romanov

Dimitryi

Gleb Vagonof

Black Butler

Alois Trancy

Ciel Phantomhive

Claude Faustus

Sebastian Michaelis

#black butler #sevika x reader smut #vi x caitlyn #arcane fanfic #wicked the musical #natasha pierre and the great comet of 1812 #marvel mcu #star wars #harry potter #diabolik lovers #miss peregrines home for peculiar children #anastasia #gotham #ahs murder house #voltron #the outsiders #interview with the vampire #the hunchback of notre dame #hamilton musical

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licncourt · 1 year

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i saw your headcanon post about louis’ original family name, and i was wondering if you had any ideas about gabrielle’s maiden name

Oh that's hard! Aside from being a wealthy, maybe noble (I don't remember if it's said definitively either way), Italian woman, we don't know much of anything about her family history so there's nothing definitive I can say. As far as just fun speculation/headcanons, I decided to look into some history to come up with a fun answer!

So Italy was heading into a pretty severe economic slump in the mid to late 18th century when Gabrielle was growing up and the Marquis had nothing but a title to his name, so it must have been a marriage of convenience for them both, the Marquis getting her money and she/her family gets to marry into nobility.

I'm going to place her in Northern Italy for proximity reasons, but also because Venice and Genoa were still the most prosperous areas of Italy as well as being international trading centers, giving them easy access to French cultural exchange. I like the idea of her being Genoese because it's closest Italian province to France (besides Sardinia, but that's another can of worms), but also because she seems like the kind of woman who would love the sea and all the opportunities it represents. Maybe she grew up overlooking it.

I was looking at Genoese surnames and came across diRossi, originally denoting curly hair (maybe a nickname from an ancestor that stuck) but I like the idea that it stuck along with the unusual blonde, curly hair. Gabrielle is a French name as well, so I imagine it's the Francophone version of what was originally Gabriella (the way Maria Antonia became Marie Antoinette when she married the French dauphin).

So, Gabrielle de Lioncourt could have been born Gabriella diRossi.

#i love making things too complicated #answered #vc

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translestatdl · 1 year

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Eight wolves. Seven sons plus Marquis de Lioncourt. Lestat symbolically killing his brothers and his father, and himself

Is this anything?

#i know not all of the brothers are living by the events of tvl but still #vc #lestat de lioncourt

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thevamplelio · 11 months

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CHARACTER QUESTIONNAIRE !!

TAGGED BY: myself - borrowed from: @radicalrascals.

TAGGING: @akcsha, @wcstenra, @apphrodite, @eclipsecrowned, @protector-of-the-fae @sacredvein, @count-v-dracula @openedxdoors, @josephinerphub - shoutout to @desiredprince cause they’re cool.

✧･ﾟ 𝐃𝐀𝐒𝐇 𝐆𝐀𝐌𝐄.

► LESTAT DE LIONCOURT.

★ ⸻ GENERAL

Name: Lestat de Lioncourt

Alias(es): the Brat Prince, the rule breaker, Lelio, a perfect devil & more!

Gender: Demi-boy (he/they)

Age: 262+ (looks 21)

Date of Birth: November 7, 1760

Place of Birth: Auvergne, France.

Spoken Language(s): French, English, some Latin and Italian.

Orientation: bi (non-discriminating!) and doesn’t do monogamy, that’s for humans and cowards.

Occupation(s): Prince of the coven of the articulate, writer/novelist, former rockstar, dandy/fop and all around troublemaker.

★ ⸻ APPEARANCE

Eye colour: blue-gray-purple.

Hair colour: golden blonde.

Height: 6’0”

Other: well dressed, gentleman death in silk and lace come to put out the light.

★ ⸻ FAVORITE

Colour: purple, fuscia and blue

Song: Present. Classical.

Food: king cake

Drink: wine

★ ⸻ HAVE THEY...

Passed university: add it to the do list, perhaps. (No)

Had sex: yes.

Had Sex in (semi)Public: yes.

Gotten pregnant/someone else pregnant: yes.

Kissed a boy: yes.

Kissed a girl: yes.

Gotten tattoos: no.

Gotten piercings: no.

Been in love: yes.

Stayed up 24+ hours: yes.

★ ⸻ ARE THEY...

A virgin: most certainly not!

A cuddler: circumstantially.

A kisser: yes.

Scared easily: no.

Jealous easily: depends on who.

Trustworthy: of course! Of course! Of course! (No)

Submissive: switch.

Dominant: switch.

In love: with Louis de Pointe du Lac.

Relationship status: it’s complicated.

★ ⸻ RANDOM QUESTIONS

TW for self-harm/suicide mention.

Have they harmed themselves: yes.

Thought of suicide/ideated: yes.

Attempted suicide: yes.

Wanted to kill someone: succeeded and done well at it.

Have/had a job: depends on definition.

Fears: abandonment, being enough, loneliness and his own capacity for evil and goodness.

★ ⸻ FAMILY

Sibling(s): a few brothers and sisters he claims disdain for, especially the brothers.

Parent(s): Marquis de Lioncourt/Gabrielle de Lioncourt.

Children: Claudia, Viktor de Lioncourt, Rose de Lioncourt, and open to adopting.

Significant other: a few… Louis de Pointe du Lac and Rowan Mayfair to name two. Pet(s): Mojo de Lioncourt, a handsome German Shepard.

The whole run down of this bi bastard.

The Vampire Lestat.

Books.

Tv show.

Bi manifesto.

Vampire reviews: the vampire Lestat.

Vampire reviews: the Vampire Chronicles books by Anne Rice.

#about / lestat #lestat / gentleman death #bisexual #lestat the wolfkiller #I know I’m a wolf #tag games #dash games #meta #anne rice #lestat de lioncourt #vc meta #vc books #the vampire lestat #vampire chronicles #headcanon #headcanons #long post #long post tw

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immortalconclusions · 2 years

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For the fanfic emoji asks: ⛔ 🙋‍♀️🌞

⛔ Do you have a fic you started, but scrapped?

Yes! Here are a few (I might still get to them someday)

A fic called The Life and Times of Gabrielle de Lioncourt, about Gabrielle's mortal life in Italy before she married the Marquis. This isn't actually scrapped, it's now a WIP that you will hopefully see soon!

a fic about Lestat being a dissociated expat fucking his way through the salons of Cario in the 1780s being all depressed about Nicki and his mom abandoning him and then going back to France during the height of the revolution and seeing massive carnage and that his brothers all got killed and being like “oh” and then seeing his dad still alive and feeling major child guilt and having to take him across the ocean and being like “I am being so brave and normal about all of this”

A fic called The Prince Consort Louis de Pointe du Lac (TPCLdPdL) basically just fluffy shenanigans and married sex smut

A fic called The Rescue of The Vampire Lestat: Louis and Gabrielle go on a road trip to rescue Lestat from Memnoch's hell

A fic called Call Me Lulu, basically Louis crossdressing in the 1790s so he could dance with Lestat in public

AU where Magnus never kidnaps Lestat, and he and Nicki live happily ever after (more or less) in Paris

A fic called Foxglove where Nicki has performance anxiety that gives him really bad heart palpitations before getting on stage at Renaud's. One day he passes out and Lestat takes him to a doctor (with money that he obtained through...not so honorable means). The doctor prescribes foxglove/digitalis, which also happens to be a poison. Lestat worries that Nicki might try to overdose on it.

Human AU where Louis goes to therapy

🙋‍♀️ Do any irl people know you write fanfic?

My sisters do. Although they don't know which fandoms or where to find them (at least I hope to God they don't lmao)

🌞 Do you have a preferred time of day to write?

It varies but I usually write dialogue on my phone notes app when I'm caffeinated (like in the morning or after lunch) and then sit down and work on the rest of it with a glass of wine or three after dinner

#vc #fanfic #iwtv #answered

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vampyrebond · 1 year

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@complicitsacrilege-rp : [ 𝐏𝐋𝐀𝐘 ]

they play a game together, coming together and leaving each other when the world fucks them over. louis knows by now that something will always draw him back in. lestat de lioncourt. a monster. a marquis. an animal. a lover. a dreamer. louis has been caught in his grip for longer than his memory allows him to keep and there’s simply no saying when that tragic affair will stop. it had been decades since they’d seen each other last, the vestiges of their earlier selves left in the flames of the opera house that took the lives of their kind at the hands of them both. decades of the assumption that he’d never see lestat again. . . that the world had lost it’s greatest spark because of a mistake louis had made.

mistake after mistake after mistake. perhaps lestat was wrong. perhaps it was simply louis that had always been the mistake.

the world destroyed yet again had brought them together. a love letter of sorts that never needed to be sent. a calling prayer to bring them back together through the ashes that damned them. armand had tried to keep them apart and louis had finally broken free of the dark spell that enchanted him. ( if he’d given daniel a chance to question he would have said which of the two is the lesser evil to which louis’ promtly reply would have been neither but the world didn’t allow for that moment of conversation. )

now they sleep in the comfort of a stolen coffin, forgoing the need to have two anymore. they wake and they feed and they find home much closer to the ground. tonight they found a place to lounge that had all they needed. drink, and though alcohol was abundant in the home he thinks only of something else, and a singular piano where lestat plays on keys with bloodied fingers and a wonder that louis has sought to answer all these decades past.

“ mmmm, mon cher -- ” the words flow out of him as his arms each wrap around lestat’s shoulders to hug him close, though not wanting to stop the music from flowing out of him all the same. “ did you write this? ” something in his chest beams because he knows as his fingers trace daring scratches against his lover’s chest that he did. . . and it’s all for him.

#complicitsacrilege-rp #[ louis and lestat getting revenge for claudia and gabrielle and then armand whisking louis away ]#[ going decades thinking he's dead ]#[ you know the usual ]#[ enjoy the novel of modern loustat ]#𝐈'𝐃 𝐒𝐔𝐅𝐅𝐄𝐑 𝐇𝐄𝐋𝐋 𝐈𝐅 𝐘𝐎𝐔'𝐃 𝐓𝐄𝐋𝐋 𝐌𝐄 𝐖𝐇𝐀𝐓 𝐘𝐎𝐔'𝐃 𝐃𝐎 𝐓𝐎 𝐌𝐄 𝐓𝐎𝐍𝐈𝐆𝐇𝐓 ( louis/lestat )

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OBSERVATIONS UPON: Lestat's family tree and my headcanons concerning it.

This post includes my choices for Lestat's father, mother, and the Marquis as well as a comparison image of Lestat and his half-brothers - to give context to the decisions made.

NOTE: I'm basing this on the idea that Lestat was born of an affair between Gabrielle and a young French nobleman named Marcel Debois.

TRIGGER WARNINGS: MISCARRIAGE & STILLBORN MENTIONS

TOP: MARCEL DEBOIS - DAN STEVENS, GABRIELLE DE LIONCOURT - KATE WINSLET & LESTAT DE LIONCOURT - SAM REID

BOTTOM: MARQUIS FRANCOIS DE LIONCOURT - PIP TORRENS, ÉTIENNE DE LIONCOURT - RICHARD ARMITAGE & LAURENT DE LIONCOURT - RALPH FIENNES

So, from what I understand of Lestat's canon, his mother Gabrielle doted upon him as a child. My first thought is why? Why Lestat? Why not her other sons? Of course, she may have had some motherly affection towards her other children but, in my head, they weren't born out of a loving relationship.

Gabrielle de Lioncourt strikes me as the kind of wife a Marquis would want if he had no fortune. She gets the title, he gets the money. It was a marriage of convenience and social gain for both parties. In my head (as I've not read Interview or The Vampire Lestat) I can imagine the Marquis is older than Gabrielle when they marry - him wanting a younger wife to have and raise many children.

All in all, Gabrielle conceives eight times; three surviving into adulthood, one stillborn and four miscarriages. These losses are devastating to her and I think it goes a long way to explaining why there's an age gap between Lestat and his brothers. The Marquis is relentless in the pursuit of children, even after his (non-identical) twin sons are born after only a year of marriage. He is in his forties and Gabrielle is only 16.

She gives birth to the twins at 17 and then doesn't have another, living child until Lestat is born, 9 years later. At this point, his mother is 26 years old and, as Lestat was turned when he was 34, this means that Gabrielle would have been at least 60 when she was reborn.

The relationship between Lestat and his brothers was never an easy one; they noticed he was different as soon as they laid eyes on his short golden hair, the day he was born. The Marquis noticed too and took almost every opportunity to make sure Gabrielle knew that he knew something was awry in the boy's lineage. He was the lion among the crows and Étienne and Laurent never let him forget it.

It is my headcanon that Lestat is illegitimate and because of this - because he was conceived within a loving affair - Gabrielle loved him more than she loved her other sons. Lestat reminded her of the only time she's ever, genuinely been in love and been loved back. The only time she has wanted and has been wanted and she held onto that memory through her son for as long as she possibly could before the immortal life of a vampire turned even the most doting mother, cold.

#ᴏᴏᴄ: ᴏʙꜱᴇʀᴠᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ.

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The Vampire Lestat & Sir Percy Blakeney: Most Genius & Manly of Himbos

I want to discuss the "babygirl" discourse around Lestat's yaasification, and notions that he's the "woman/wife/mother" in Loustat's household.

YES, Sam Reid has been serving nothing but Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent, but I think his play on gender norms has confused people into thinking he's playing into Lestat's femininity, when actually, I think Sam's playing up Lestat's masculinity instead.

But it's a VERY particular type of masculinity, that clashes with modern norms and tastes and perceptions/assumptions.

And it only recently struck me that the vampire Lestat AND Sir Percy Blakeney (AKA the Scarlet Pimpernel) have A LOT in common: They're both foppish prissy buffoons who are tougher than they look and seem a LOT dumber than they actually are--and it's INTENTIONAL.

Because Lestat and Sir Percy Blakeney lived during the French Revolution. The Rococo hellscape of extravagant hedonistic opulence, that caused the fall of the monarchy & rise of the nouveau riche & middle classes. They came at the Revolution from opposite sides--Lestat de Lioncourt as a penniless marquis' son forced to hunt for his own food or starve, and Sir Percy Blakeney as an English elite sympathizer & spy for the French monarchy. That environment heavily colored both of their outlooks on life and interactions with others.

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Aesthetics were everything--don't get Lestat started on the Savage Garden!--and a man's whole reputation and life could be ruined by his public image alone. Outdated clothes at court!? Scandalous!

Society's fashions & tastes change. The wigs, high heels, lace, makeup, limp wrists, prancing walks, small waists, shapely calves--all the Old World beauty standards now associated with women actually used to be applied to men. Manly men!

As overdone and effeminate as they might seem to modern audiences, in the 1700s, that kind of man was considered HOT--the very pinnacle of fashion, taste and breeding.

Ladies wanted to be with them, and men wanted to BE them--the nouveau riche, social climbers, middle class, etc--this was the model.

How society's double standards affect the class/race/gender dynamics between Loustat are absolutely feral. Despite how silly Lestat looked in his clothes, this fish out of water with his weird foreign talk and obnoxious behavior, Lestat EASILY "emasculated" Louis, the established & respected tough local pimp (and we would see over & over how effortlessly he could one-up Louis, especially in Ep5 when he came out of that fight without a scratch).

EFF his snatched waist, sassy hands, and long hair--this MAN was on DEMON TIME. Sam said that AMC put Lestat in a whole Matador-inspired villain outfit. Now, I don't know anything about Spanish bullslaying, but one cursory search on Jstor had all kinds of interesting things to say:

Douglass, Carrie B. “‘toro Muerto, Vaca Es’: An Interpretation of the Spanish Bullfight.” American Ethnologist 11, no. 2 (1984): 242–58. http://www.jstor.org/stable/643849.

And Louis definitely saw red and was charging at him like a bull--and Lestat nearly killed him for it.

So y'all tell me who the MAN is in this relationship. 👀 Lestat didn't become his MOTHER, he became HIS FATHER. (Louis is the one who's similar to Gabrielle!)

Lestat's money & class is telling, too. But what's ironic is that although Lestat appears Old Money to everyone (as his inheritance from Magnus was VERY old, and bottomless), he's actually nouveau riche--LOUIS was the silver spoon Old Money elite, with the DPDL estate (inherited from his white ancestors' French colonial slavery & plantations in NOLA). But Lestat was called the Wolf Killer, cuz he hunted wolves & saved his broke family from starving (and his village from wolf attacks).

Lestat was SO cocky after his hunt, prancing around town in his wolf furs like little Lord Fauntleroy, PRINCE LESTAT, like the kind of aristocrat he wished he was, the kind his birthright would've afforded him, if only his broke AF FATHER could've afforded it (and Prince Lestat eventually renovated his father's Chateau for the vampire court). His beautiful braggadocio/machismo was what attracted the vampire Magnus to Lestat, and made him a worthy candidate for immortality. Likewise, Lestat's brazen & BALLSY antics were what attracted Akasha to Lestat in QotD, too.

"Lestat, if all the world were destroyed, I would not destroy you," [Akasha] said. "Your limitations are as radiant as your virtues for reasons I don't understand myself. But more truly perhaps, I love you because you are so perfectly what is wrong with all things male. Aggressive, full of hate and recklessness, and endlessly eloquent excuses for violence-you are the essence of masculinity; and there is a gorgeous quality to such purity. But only because it can now be controlled." "By you." "Yes, my darling. This is what I was born for. This is why I am here. And it does not matter if no one ratifies my purpose. I shall make it so. Right now the world burns with masculine fire; it is a conflagration. But when that is corrected, your fire shall burn ever more brightly-as a torch burns."

For Akasha (and Anne Rice lbr), Lestat represented the epitome--the essence--of (toxic) MASCULINITY. The same vain, supercilious, foppish dandy obsessed with his hair and nails and purple sunglasses, always going on and on about James Dean & Marlon Brando, etc etc--is still a MAN.

He's the silliest creature ever, and he REVELS in it, because he knows good and dang well that he's the most dangerous one in the room. Whatever he wanted, he took, and fought for, controlled & dominated, come hell or high water.

Sure, he burns brightly, with effervescent light; but he's also the thing that goes bump in the night, lurking in the shadows, hiding his TRUE nature, his real face.

And we see that darkness, that ugly mean streak, as soon as Lestat and Percy feel they've been betrayed & feel their most vulnerable.

On a DIME, this man can go from being a silly, vapid clown, to a cold and calculated evil genius, playing 4D chess with the best of them. And the best trick is that because Lestat & Percy are both the protagonists/heroes of their stories, we'll clap and cheer and hope that they triumph, all while making a thousand excuses for their red flags--the matador wins again!

But what are Lestat & Percy REALLY fighting for & protecting? The rights of vampires to be effing serial killers? The rights of the parasitic monarchy/rich to leech off the poor? Don't let the pretty smiles & fun personalities fool you--they're inherently KILLERS--apex predators, hunters, and aggressively male--gay or straight, butch or femme, he wants to emasculate, dominate, penetrate, and humiliate.

The Scarlet Pimpernel is still an assassin, and Lestat is still a vampire. The patriarchal layers run deep, but their supposed "girliness" is just on the surface; it's due to the time period they both grew up in, and the aesthetic ideals of the elite during the 1700s--a time when manly men were A LOT more effeminate than what we'd expect today. But underneath that cultured veneer, they're still dangerous animals. The whole point of gothic literature Anne Rice's book emulated is that it confronts that duality head on, to consider the underlying nature of MAN's beast within. That's what makes Lestat so interesting--because you know there's sooo much more going on.

#the vampire lestat #the scarlet pimpernel #gender inequality #loustat #fashion history #operation matador

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