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shriamato · 2 years
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Yesterday and today has been a rollercoaster for my fanfae mood levels.
The Umbrella Academy trailer: YES WTF LOL KLAUS MY BELOVED THIS IS TOTAL CHAOS I LOVE
My Fake Boyfriend trailer: ooooooh, KEIYNAN MY BELOVED, why Zack Martin you've grown up, wait where the fuck is this going???? Intrigued.
Love, Victor trailer: I SWEAR TO ALL THAT IS GAY I WILL FUCKING RIOT IF THEY DON'T FIX VENJI WTF WTF WHY IS THERE ANOTHER GUY BEING INTRODUCED STOP IT. Lake and Lucy are cute af together and I must protect them.
Heartstopper being renewed for two more seasons: MY HEART LITERALLY JUST STOPPED YEEEEEEES IM SO HAPPY 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
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Love, Viktor season 3 spoilers!!!
Soo, I watched ep. 1-4 and...
can I say, that to my surprise I actually like this season so far?
can I say, that I absolutely love Benji? Even more than in the last seasons and seeing him happy at the end of the episode 4, after such a long time, was soo nice.
can I say, that I love Rahim too? I don’t know, this boy really knows now to win a heart. 
can I say, that I ship Rahim and Benji a little now? I mean Venji is still an endgame for me, but for now this two are soo cute together.  Also, this his whole scene when Benji was like: First Viktor, and now me. You really have to stop seducing people. Thin Rahim was like: Shut up. I died. 
can I say, that I love Viktor, but he really messed up with both Benji and Rahim so seeing him alone at the end of ep, 4 and just being miserable and missing Benji was quiet entertaining for me? 
can I say, that I know that both Armando and Isabele can be shitheads sometimes, but I still love Salazar family? 
can I say, that I love Pillar and Felix and Lucy and Lake, more that I liked Felix and Lake?
can I say, that I have soo much awe and love for Andrew? I mean this boy changed so much. I love him and Mia so much too.
can I say, that I give no fuck about Nick? 
can I say, that I miss Simon? I mean, I get that Viktor doesn’t need his help, but couldn’t they stay in touch and occasionally update each other?
can I say, that I’m obsessed with soundtrack from this season? I like it more that the last two, I made a Spotify playlist with songs that were available there, if anyone's interested. 
I decided to watch the last 4 eps tomorrow so I will write my thought probably too, 
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Just added chapter 101 to the marching band AU. This is the eighth and final chapter of part 12. Friday Night and Saturday.
Chapter 1 (from the beginning) - https://archiveofourown.org/works/29409834/chapters/72250422
Chapter 101 (just added; part 12H) -https://archiveofourown.org/works/29409834/chapters/77053208
Title: And I’m in the bleachers
Chapters: 101/?
Words: 380,360 (so far)
Summary:  Victor Salazar is finishing his freshman year of high school in Graham, TX when his dad gets a new job that forces the family to move to the small town of Ephrata, PA. Thrilled with the idea of a fresh start and maybe the chance to finally figure himself out, Victor is excited; his younger sister, Pilar, a little less so. Both Salazar siblings join the high school marching band upon arrival and this is the story of the hijinks and drama that unfold thereafter.
In the words of a dear friend: It might just be Victor being an idiot and Benji being more of an idiot but what’s new?
Notes: This story will come to you in 25 parts; however each part will account for multiple chapters, so it’s going to be a lot more than 25 total chapters, but there are 25 main sections of the story. The relocation from Atlanta to PA is because this is now set in my hometown, because I have no clue how HS marching band works in GA. I decided to eliminate a few characters (most notably Adrian and Simon). The move occurs at the beginning of June 2019 instead of January 2020. The first part of the story will loosely follow the plot of Love, Victor Season 1, but definitely not exactly. This may or may not be the slowest burn to ever exist.
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After Love, Victor S2 I have a lot of thoughts and not enough words so I'm going to try my best to be coherent in this post 😅
First of all BISEXUAL LAKE FINALLY CONFIRMED and I could not be happier about that
I have to say I was not expecting Pilar and Felix to become an actual ship, I loved their friendship in season 1 but throughout this season Felar (?) grew on me and I love it!!
I'm so glad Felix's mom is doing better, he really was dealing with too much on his own
I'm so glad Isabel grew and unlearned what the church taught her, seeing her go off on that priest was everything
Mia and Andrew are so cute??? I love them together and I love that Andrew stood up to her dad
And oh boy when Mia broke down asking her dad to let them stay in Atlanta saying she's just asking him to choose her this one time I actually cried, that hit a bit too close to home
I don't know if this is a controversial opinion but I'm glad we got to hear Victor and Rahim talk about being brown and coming from immigrant families and how Benji and other white people will never truly understand what that family dynamic is like
Speaking of Rahim, I freaking loved him!! Again, not sure if that's an unpopular opinion, I haven't gone through the tags yet but I think he's amazing and deserves the world
Before I come to the very last scene I do want to say that it was amazing getting to finally see Venji just being a cute couple this season especially when most of season 1 revolved around Victor figuring himself out
And now the big fat cliffhanger... After Felix did the close your eyes thing and talked about prom, long distance and other stuff I couldn't help thinking he was going to Benji's because he really hasn't known Rahim long enough to be thinking about that with him. As for who I WANT it to be, the jury's still out, I love both the ships and tbh I would be happier about it being Benji but I would also be good with it being Rahim
Also Adrian accepted Victor so easily, that was a great scene... kids don't have hatred in their heart, it's taught to them
Oh and I'm happy for Victor's parents getting back together too, it seems like they'll be much happier now even though they still need to work on the relationship
Lots of other thoughts too but I'm done rambling on about this for now, if you read this whole thing I love you ❤😅
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comradesalazar · 3 years
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What I’m hoping for in season 3 of Love, Victor: Victor becomes more self-assured and stronger and able to handle more of life’s challenges, while Benji becomes more vulnerable and leans on Victor to take care of him so he’s not the one shouldering all the responsibility for the emotional labor of the relationship. I want Victor to not take Benji for granted anymore and to earn his trust back after hurting him. If it means they have to be apart to sort their shit out, so be it. 
The writers seemed to have set up a major addiction plotline that they’re going to explore more in s3 with Benji and how Venji will handle that. I also want us to FINALLY get more of Benji as a human being with his own POV and not just how he is thru Victor’s eyes. 
I also want them to address interracial relationships and encouraging more open communication and understanding. We’ve seen that Benji can be hard-headed and stubborn when it comes to listening to Victor’s criticisms about how he doesn’t understand Victor’s family situation because he’s white; it would be good to explore that further and see Benji be more of an ally and more immersed in Victor’s culture. 
And especially now since Isabel seems to have accepted their relationship, that means we’ll be able to see more of Benji with the Salazars and I feel like it’ll be real wholesome and lovely and just what Benji needs to unburden himself tbh, while also exploring the intricacies of cultural differences and race at the same time. I just really want to see Isabel try to make things up to Benji and for everyone to come to a mutual, constructive understanding. And maybe my headcanon of Isabel calling Benji ‘mi amor’ and ‘mi lindo’ and other cute shit like that will finally happen. My fingers are crossed!!
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Right I need to talk about Love, Victor Season 2 (spoilers ahead)(heads up, this is long af):
My dream for season 3 is that obviously its Benji's door; him and Vic love each other and being together at least the assumed 6 months and having all those firsts together makes their bond so much deeper than the 2 times Vic and Rahim hung out.
I reeeally like Rahim, hilarious and realistic character and I really want to see him find a lovely adorable boyfriend in season 3, thats not Victor. I think they work incredibly as friends, understanding each others trouble with religious and foreign families, but it would be so much better seeing them be able to chill together talking about boys and life and going on double dates with their respective partners *ahem* venji. I just think that it is so important, seeing as the show focuses a lot on representation, to show that gay people dont all have to date each other?
In season 1, one of the things that bonded Vic and Benji was both enjoying being romantics and God i want to see that explored more in season 3, them celebrating anniversaries and having cute dates. (Please writers can they just be happy)
And i want them to look at Benji's alcoholism, like, actually. Vic to attend an AA meeting or doing a joint meeting with the sponsor and just seeing more of Benji's backstory in general; as one of the main characters I feel like we still dont know enough about him.
One massive take away from season 2 is that damn they all need to learn to communicate feelings a liiiitle better. I really understand why Benji was upset following his alcoholism being exposed, same with Felix when his mum was sectioned. But theres a huge thing there for them to learn as well that shit can be so heavy to deal with as a partner when youre not allowed to talk about it. Like they said in the later episodes, actually imagine how hard it is to see your favourite person suffer and not be able to do anything to help, thats gotta have a major toll on your own mental health.
Andrews character development was brilliant this season, and it was amazing seeing more of Pilar and Lake's actually personalities too.
Felix's mums mental health story was heartbreaking but so well done. Glad they showed the manic side of her disorder and my God i sobbed multiple times
When they showed Isa standing up to the Father at Church and saying that God loves her perfect, gay son an inhumane noise came out of my mouth that was half a cry and half a cheer?
And finally (but probably not actually finally lmao): Pilar x Felix, Andrew x Mia, and Lake x Lucy are all a massive yes from me (also, Lucy in a tux is also a yes from me)
I dont know anyone irl who watches the show so if anyone wants to chat, hit me up?
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shippyspamblog · 3 years
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So I parapharsed the latest Interviews of Michael Cimino and George Sear
(They should have a ship name, too. Migeo? Semino? Idk, I'm open for suggestions ^^)
George:
Michael is adorable and any scene with him is a bit too hot to handle. I lost count how many times we've kissed, unfortunately we had to use mouthwash after every take (because of the pandemic) that was annoying, cause it was harder for me to do the (US) accent with a numb tongue. But it was worth it, being able to do all these scenes and to kiss Michael who is not a bad kisser 😏
Michael:
We've even kissed during rehearsals sometimes and it was never awkward, George is so easy to work with, he's great at break dancing and nailed the grizzly dance routine.
Venji's on screen relationship stems a lot from the chemistry George and I have, we're really, really, REALLY comfortable with each other.
The sex scenes were very explorative and new land for the characters, we opted out of having an intimacy coach and just went for it, that's why the scenes feel so naturel on screen.
We would love to get a third season.
I've never seen two co-actors being so cute and comfy with each other 💜
Why aren't there any RPFs of them, yet?
I'm asking for a friend 😅
(Just for the matter, I totally respect their private lifes, in RPF the F stands for Fiction and nothing else.)
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sapphicmess93 · 3 years
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After seeing benji’s home life I want victors family to adopt him like they did with Felix like I want Isabel to go all out to make him feel welcome and bond with him cook for him talk with him laugh with him song with him and benji realizing that he never had that and maybe even crying to her about it and I want them to make fun of victor lovingly and maybe she shows him baby pictures of vic and vic is embarrassed of course but mostly super relieved and I want benji to get along with Adrian maybe they’ll have insider jokes between them and I want Adrian to see him like another brother and ask like where benji is when he’s currently not there and maybe have frozen singalong’s just cute family stuff and Armando could maybe be a little bit the embarrassing parent but in a sweet way and benji just laughs every time cause he really likes and respects him and appreciates that he tried from the start and Pilar maybe they could bond about music and her being like „I’m glad you didn’t give up on vic“ or I’m glad you’re still together like more a quiet but still happy supporter of venji. I need this in season 3 so bad.
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wallssarah · 3 years
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brain dump on the Love, Victor s2 ending
maybe im too biased bc i love benji so much, but i think my thoughts seem reasonable
-rahim telling victor that if he feels the same he knows where rahim lives, kinda would make it too obvious -the building of a loving venji relationship in most of the first half of the season would just be thrown out of the window -considering this season follows about 6 months, makes it kind of reasonable to have like 3-4 rather little fights and 1 more big fight -everyone choosing the new person e.g. felix x pilar, lake x lucy, mia x andrew would make it too obvious for victor to choose rahim, or? -his parents going through a similar phase but finding back together could show that venji are able to do it too -felix making victor imagine his future and who he sees at his side, and it being rahim a guy he knows for 2 weeks over benji who he, even though they had fights, told that he loved him and misses him would feel to random -victor is a mama's boy, and isa apologizing to benji (telling him that she has never seen victor in love like this, and fighting her like that bc of him) and benji trying to work it out with vic would be so random too -venji telling each other that they love each other despite or especially throughout the fights, it just wouldn't make sense if he chooses rahim (+ the "i miss you" "i miss you too" scene in the car, shortly before he chooses??) -victor choosing rahim would be too close to the situation in s1, with benji and his (now) ex-boyfriend -all those "first-time" experiences vic has with benji form an emotional bond -venji having undeniable chemistry throughout the season (even during the break) -you cant see a bell at rahims door in the scene after the gay bar ?? -his soft smile after ringing the door bell could either be bc he imagined his life with benji and tries to tell him everything he hasnt said or bc rahim told him he knows where he lives and this is his way of being cute about that
i know this is super long, but am i loosing my mind and imagining things?? or do my thoughts seem reasonable?? please i need yall's ideas
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mychemicalrachel · 3 years
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So I finished season 2 of Love Victor a few days ago but I needed time to process because that was a lot and part of processing is reviewing/reflecting, which I’m gonna post here. Everything under the cut because I ramble.
(also, it’s anti Victor/Rahim. Venji is endgame and you can pry that from my cold dead hands. Skip this if that’s not for you. I’m not posting this to start drama. Just my opinions.)
To start off, I liked this season. I’m gonna trash it a little, but it’s done with love. There were a lot of things I wanted to see after season 1 and, surprisingly, I got a lot of those things! Such as…
I wanted more Felix and Pilar. Which we got. I did not want it like this. I’m not opposed to them together, I like them, but I wanted Felix and Lake to stay together. HOWEVER, I’m kinda glad they broke up because y’all it’s paving the way for bi Lake (another thing I really wanted) and I cannot wait to see her and Lucy together.
Kind of following along with that, I really wanted them to give Pilar more friends this season. And they did that with Rahim. And then they took Rahim away and gave him to Victor instead. Guys, this is killing me. I want to see Pilar with actual friends, give her more of a social life I am begging you.
JACK. I knew, I just KNEW, that we were going to get a Spier cameo this season and I honestly kind of expected it to be Emily, maybe Nora, but I am so happy it was Jack. He’s grown so much since Love Simon.
I wanted to see Mia portrayed as her own person and not a villain. She was justified in her anger and betrayal because Victor hurt her. They handled it really well I think. She’s such a good friend. I’m also glad we got more of her and Veronica bonding. I can’t wait to see Mia with the baby, that’s gonna be so cute.
I wanted more Andrew and this season did not disappoint. He was like the cool uncle that everyone went to for advice. 
Now, with all of that said, I did get a lot of things I wanted from this season. I also got things I did not want. I was actually really excited when they introduced Rahim and kind of went full circle by having him go to Victor for advice. I was like, hell yeah! Gays who can be friends without being all over each other! And then they started this love triangle thing and I kind of hated it. I liked Victor and Rahim as friends, I want more of that because I think Victor (and Rahim, too, to be honest) could use more queer friends. Just friends. They built up this entire relationship between Benji and Victor in season 1 and spent a lot of this season confirming that yeah Benji and Victor are in love even though they have some tough times, and now I’m just supposed to accept that Victor has started having feelings for someone else? No thank you, please stop.
And that leads me to things I want to see in season 3!
Victor chose Benji obviously. You cannot convince me otherwise. Someone he started having feelings for when he was going through a mentally distressing time in his life fails in comparison to the guy he spent an entire season falling in love with.
Now I’m not discounting Victor’s feelings. I’m sure he felt something for Rahim, but we need to acknowledge that Victor was in the middle of a stressful time. He had only recently come out, he was dealing with his mom not accepting him or his boyfriend, he quit the basketball team, he was struggling with his place in his and Benji’s relationship and then Benji wanted to “take a break”. He can’t be blamed for latching onto someone who wholly accepted him and made him feel normal.
Also, it’s fairly common to play into the trope of “this character is new to being gay, he can’t just be with one person so we have to add another love interest and make sure what he’s feeling for person A is real.”
That said! Benji will probably feel insecure now! And that’s okay! Let’s explore that! Let’s allow Benji to be the one who's insecure in this relationship for once instead of always having Victor be the one to doubt everything! They don’t have to break up to take a step back and slow things down!
As such, I really want to go back to the Victor/Benji roots. Make them friends again. I want stupid cute moments like them dancing to Call Me Maybe and trying on thrift store clothes. We spent so much of this season making Victor and Benji boyfriends that we kind of skipped over the whole friends aspect. There’s a reason they fell in love in the first place and we need to revisit that. A relationship is not just sex and miscommunication. It’s laughing together, it’s enjoying each other's company, and I didn’t see nearly enough of that between Victor and Benji this season.
They were not at all subtle with the parallels between Felix and Victor this season; Felix having to choose between Lake and Pilar while Victor has to choose between Rahim and Benji. I mean, I don’t think it was supposed to be subtle. It couldn’t have been more obvious. And at first I was worried that Felix chose Pilar because of the parallels and that must mean Victor was going to choose Rahim. But the longer I look at it, the more differences I notice in their parallels and I don’t have the eloquence to unpack it all right now, but it all just made me more assured that Victor is going to choose Benji.
Moving away from Victor/Benji, there’s something that keeps bothering me; it’s when Felix and Lake had sex at the lake. Cute romantic moment, yeah sure, I probably wouldn’t have thought much of it, except it made a deal out of Felix buying condoms beforehand. He was prepared. That’s good. Only, when they went out to jump into the lake, they only had towels. Which means that there is a very good chance they didn’t use protection. That, coupled with Georgina’s comment about watching Teen Mom...I foresee a pregnancy scare in the coming season. Whether it’s an actual pregnancy and we get a whole pregnancy storyline (possibly an abortion, maybe a miscarriage. I don’t really see it going full term for whatever reason) or if it’s just an episode where Lake thinks she might be pregnant.
I’m pretty excited to see how they handle this newfound romance between Lucy and Lake. Does Lake already know she’s bi? Does Lucy? Lake made a comment at the beginning of this season about making sure everyone knew Mia didn’t turn Victor gay, which makes me wonder how Lake will react to discovering she also likes girls. No, I’m not saying she’ll think Felix turned her into a lesbian. But I think she’ll doubt her feelings for Lucy. She’ll think (however briefly) that maybe she was just hurt and maybe she doesn’t actually like Lucy, she’s just coping with having her heart broken by a boy.
But I want all of her doubt to end when she accepts that she’s totally bisexual.
Now that we got our bi character, I’m gonna start demanding an ace character, too.
I want Mia’s mom to be awesome. Her dad kind of sucks and she deserves at least one good parent.
HOWEVER, if her mom also sucks, I think it could bring her and Veronica closer.
Speaking of parents, I want to explore Lake’s relationship with her mom more. She always tells Felix about how she was pressured to be skinny, and that right there is a terrible basis for a mother/daughter relationship. But she also felt comfortable enough to tell her about Felix’s mom and ask for help. So yeah, I definitely want more of them. I need Lake to stand up to her mom, though. I need her to be like, “you made me insecure in my body and I have self esteem issues because you made me think I wasn’t good enough” and I want to expand on that. Maybe Georgina had a good reason (in her mind, anyway) to treat Lake like that, and while it may have been a horrible thing to do, I don’t think she saw it that way. I’m not saying she should win a mother of the year award, but what she did to Lake needs to be acknowledged and talked about.
And then there’s Felix’s mom. I want to see her recovery. It’s a process and I don’t want her to magically be okay now. I also want her to meet Pilar (and Victor. Has Victor ever met her?) but also she really liked Lake and I want them to keep in touch, even though Lake and Felix aren’t together anymore. I still want them to be friends. 
AND I HAVEN’T EVEN STARTED TALKING ABOUT ISABEL AND ARMANDO. I’m glad they found their way back to each other, but again; it’s a process. I think they should stay apart for a little bit and not just jump back in where they left off. They still have problems to sort through, but this is a start. They’ve realized they want to be together.
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Come find me | Venji
Summary: A fix it/continuation from season 2. Or, Benji is the one Victor goes to after the wedding
Pairing: Victor Salazar x Benji Campbell 
Word count: 1178
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Victor pressed the doorbell and waited nervously. He could feel his palms getting sweaty and quickly wiped them on his pants. While he ran the few miles from Mia's house, Victor had tried coming up with the perfect speech to tell Benji when he'd get to him, but as he stood on the Campbells' doorstep, he unfortunately forgot all his pre-made speech.
After the talk with Felix, everything was clear in Victor's mind. Benji was the one he wanted to go to prom with. They'll wear matching outfits and dance all night and take cute, cliché prom pictures. Thinking about college and long-distance relationships was difficult, but he could see it. They would meet for Thanksgiving and Christmas and even spring break - and perhaps in between if their college wasn't too far by. Get an apartment together after those three years apart. Victor could see a future with Benji, a future he couldn't see himself having with anyone else.
Maybe Felix was being dramatic, but he was right: it would kill Victor if he didn't do those things with Benji.
The sound of the handle twisting pulled Victor from his mind, making him snap his head up as the door opened.
Victor didn't speak, taking in the sight of Benji. He had taken off his suit and replaced it with a grey tee shirt and sweatpants, and his eyes were red, as if he had cried.
A knot of guilt tied itself in Victor's stomach. He made Benji cry.
''I can't do this right now.'' It pained Benji to see his ex on his doorstep. After what he witnessed at the wedding, seeing the boy he loved dancing with another boy, his heart was crushed. ''Go home, Victor.'' He moved to close the door in Victor's face, but Victor stopped him.
''Benji, wait.''
Victor hated to be insistent, but this time, he couldn't give up. Allowing Benji to close the door on him would mean closing the door to their relationship, calling it quits for good, and he didn't want that.
''I ran here all the way from Mia's house, so please, let me talk. You don't even have to say anything, just...listen.''
Benji sighed. As much as he didn't want to hear Victor out, the boy had run a few miles just to talk to him. ''Just say whatever you're going to say, and leave.''
To make things right, Victor started by owning up to his mistakes and apologizing. ''I'm sorry for spilling our- your personal problems to Rahim. It wasn't my right to talk to him about your alcoholism. I shouldn't have. I broke your trust and I know saying 'sorry' won't make you trust me again, but I want you to know that I really am sorry.''
At first, telling Rahim felt good. Victor finally had someone to talk about his problems with - other than Benji and Felix -, someone who understood parts of his life his two best friends couldn't. But this was Benji's secret, not his.
The concept of Anonymous Alcoholics is exactly that: you stay anonymous. But Victor outed him to Rahim, someone Benji didn't know, someone he didn't trust. It would be so easy for him to tell everybody about Benji's alcohol problem.
''Is this all?'' Benji asked.
''No. About tonight. I know what it must've looked like, seeing Rahim and I dancing. You must've felt replaced, but he is a friend and I only went with him because you blew me off last minute. To me, there's nothing more than friendship for Rahim, but he doesn't feel the same. After you left, he came to me and he...he kissed me.''
Tears welled up in Benji's eyes and he looked down. ''I don't want to hear this-''
Telling Benji that Rahim and him kissed could come off as cruel, but Victor wanted to be honest. ''It would be a lie to say I didn't feel anything from that kiss. I did, but only for a few seconds. The moment it was over, I felt conflicted with my feelings. I didn't know what I wanted, but Felix helped me figure it out. When I close my eyes and imagine myself going to prom and maintaining long distance for college and getting an apartment, I can picture you and Rahim, but I can't see myself doing those things without you.''
A brisk of wind blew and Benji shivered, feeling the chill air through his thin shirt and bare arms. Victor wanted to take off his jacket and give it to him or hold him close to provide some warmth, but he wasn't allowed to do that anymore.
''I want you, Benji,'' Victor continued. ''I spent one day with Rahim when I've known you for almost a year. The choice was obvious. No, it wasn't even a choice, it was doing the right thing. I love you and I miss you and I really hope it's not over for us.''
It was clear to both that they still had feelings for eachother, still loved each other, but was love enough to overcome all their problems? They each had their wrongs, but will they be able to work things out?
''Benji, why is the door opened, it's- Victor?'' Mrs. Campbell looked at her son and then Victor and back to Benji, confused.
''Hi, Mrs. Campbell,'' Victor greeted politely. He guessed Benji had talked to her because she wasn't looking at him the loving way she used to. ''Sorry for being here late, I was just talking to Benji.''
She hummed, tightening her bathrobe around her to shield her from the air. ''I suggest you go home and talk to Benji tomorrow. He's had a tough night.''
''Mom...'' Benji said, embarrassed. He knew that his tear stained face gave it away that he had been crying, but his mom didn't have to say it in front of Victor.
Victor nodded. He didn't want to get on Mrs. Campbell's bad side any more. He said goodbye and good night to them and walked home.
Tonight hadn't gone as planned - in more ways than one -, but at least Victor had talked to Benji. Will this monologue fix their relationship? Probably not. But being honest and communicating was a step in the right direction.
Just as he was about to get in bed and call it a night, Victor's phone lit up with a new message from Benji.
Victor,
I appreciate you coming here and clearing things up - fighting for us. I know I didn't say much, but I didn't want to say something too fast and then regret it. I need time to think before making a decision. I hope you understand.
I can't say I'm not hurt by the kiss - because I am -, but thank you for telling me, being honest with me.
Love, Benji
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malepresentingleg · 3 years
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Love Victor- queer community.
I'm sorry I'm just pissed all over again about the Rahim situation. I already wrote a post about the last couple of episodes but. I'm just annoyed.
They just ruined a perfectly good relationship Victor could've had is what they've done. Like I said, I love Rahim. He's such a great character and has such an important role in this season.
He's there to show us there are a lot of ways to being gay, to understand better the situation with Victor's family and to help with it, even if unintentionally (I have a whole thing about Isabel's speech to him but that's for another post).
And one of my favorite things was he was a great opportunity for Victor to realize how far he's come, he actually had advice and support to give to another baby gay and it was honestly beautiful.
One of my absolutely FAVORITE things in season 1 was the emphasis on the queer community and its importance in queer people's lives. I think episode 8 was my favorite last season (and my least favorite in this one). How Victor realizing there are others like him, how getting their support helped him and it didn't need to be sexual AT ALL, it was even better that it wasn't.
I was so excited about him doing the same thing for Rahim, "paying it forward" and starting his own queer community at home, and it really did look like it started out this way?
When there was suddenly tension between them in episode 9 I was completely blindsided and it was the last thing I wanted to happen.
I screamed "NO" at the screen when they stood in Rahim's doorway and even though they didn't kiss I had the most bitter taste in my mouth.
I wish they didn't go this way at all, and definitely not in the manner and timing they have.
The romantic connection between Victor and Rahim feels so random and quick, that if at the end of that night Victor is at his doorstep because he "can't imagine his life without him" it would be so unbelievable.
I love Venji as much as the next person, I think both last season and the first half of this one was GREAT for them and they're usually really good for each other (when the writers don't make them suddenly assholes...). But it's not like I prefer them over Victor and Rahim, or even Victor with Felix is cute! But in cannon? The way this season was written? There's only one direction I think makes sense.
Yes, it's a cliffhanger, but is it really? If it's not Benji's who's on the other side of that door I would lose faith in this show.
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formerprincewille · 3 years
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Why the situation with venji vs vahim has me torn:
Victor loves Benji. We know this. It’s clear all throughout the season and even in the end he wanted Benji with him at the wedding. I think he’s at Benji’s door. It feels more like the relationship is just having a rough patch. They are cute. I like their chemistry. Granted, it doesn’t make me fall over in my chair but it’s good. My biggest issues with their relationship is the writing. And what I mean by this is that I wasn’t really on board with them in season one. I wasn’t against it, but I wasn’t gagging over it either. And that had nothing to do with anything other than the fact that Benji was the only other gay kid around and so it felt super obvious and forced. Of course Victor is going to be with the one other gay boy in the school, why wouldn’t he be? That’s why I find arguments of why can’t Victor and Rahim just be friends to be kind of funny because you could say the same thing about him and Benji last season but clearly things didn’t go that way. Gay love stories are always so obvious. There’s no real slow burn, no mystery, no organic build up. 
The writing for venji is rough because in season 1, we didn’t get nearly enough of them prior to them getting together, and when they are together in s2, all we get from them is either kissing/having sex or arguing. Their relationship is going through understandable growing pains, given their different stages of coming out, comfort level, and family acceptance. That in and of itself wouldn’t be a problem if it wasn’t for one thing: Benji has pretty much no personality. He has no relationships outside of Victor. He has friends for about 5 minutes who we never see again. They’re not connected to the main cast. This is a big difference between Benji/Victor and Felix/Lake. We know Felix. We know Lake. We get a sense of who they are outside of one another. We just do not get that with Benji, like, at all. We find out he’s a recovering alcoholic...and that’s about it. He feels almost faceless in a way. And it’s a shame because he really does deserve better than that.
In my live blogging, I made it pretty clear I was a Benji defender. I think he got a bad rap in season 2. I completely understood where he was coming from when it came to Victor’s mom. Imagine dating someone for months and having their parent not even acknowledge your presence in their life. It’s got to be immensely frustrating. That being said, he’s not a character I am that attached to because like...how can you be attached to someone who has no definable traits beyond “cute boyfriend”? Anyway, I’m not sure how to feel about venji right now and if they actually have anything substantial beyond lust/first love glow. 
So, Rahim. I don’t know how I feel about him and Victor yet, but my god, boy spends probably 30 minutes total on screen in the whole season, and I feel like I know him. Ten times better than Benji. He has a personality, he talks about himself, his family, his love life or lack thereof, he’s funny, clever, and he’s an absolute blast to be around. He has another connection to the main cast since he is friends with Pilar. Basically I would already die for him. I love having gay Muslim rep, I love having an effeminate gay man rep that has development beyond being the comic relief. I just adore him and I can’t wait to see more of him in s3. As for the vahim relationship...I’m not sure. Because I do think Victor loves Benji.  The irony is that we didn’t get nearly as much screen time between them as we did venji. Yet, I felt like they had real conversations and connected in a way we haven’t seen Victor do with Benji despite dating him for like 6 months. 
Now I do agree on the wanting two gay men to be friends without it being romantic, but for god sake we could say the same thing about every single m/f friendship in the history of television. Honestly, how often do they not go romantic? Another thing about Rahim that really strikes me: he opens up to Victor about guys not being into him because he is too effeminate. He feels insecure about himself not being anyone’s type because he’s....well, too gay. Although Victor reassures Rahim that he’s a catch, hearing something like that doesn’t really help you feel better when it is said encouragingly but changes nothing about your struggles in connecting with someone. Rahim confesses that he’s never even kissed a boy before. So now all I can think about is him actually  connecting with Victor, expressing his feelings, and kissing him, only to be rejected when he already feels he’s in a constant state of rejection. It just makes me feel bad for him, even though I really don’t know how Victor feels for Rahim. 
I just don’t know okay?? It’s complicated. And I find it funny how split people are and like....how angry some are about it when I can easily see both sides. 
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title: i can’t imagine, i can’t imagine my life without you
summary: post s2 finale. i needed venji to make up, so this happened. 
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“Hi,” Victor greets with a smile as the door to Benji’s house opens. Benji’s mom stands in front of him with one eyebrow raised, looking at Victor in shock.
Victor knows he messed up. Both of them did. They made comments that hurt, trust was broken, and he knew he had to be the one to take the first step to fix it.
“Hi, Mrs. Campbell. Can I talk to Benji?” He watches as she bites her lip and nods, opening the door even further to let him in.
Smiling at her briefly, he watches as she looks at her husband in the living room before turning back to Victor.
“He’s upstairs,” Victor nods and starts walking up the steps but stops when he hears Benji’s mom speak up again. “Please don’t break his heart.”
Victor nods, trying to smile again, but it comes out more like a grimace before taking the steps upstairs two at a time. He can faintly hear Benji playing guitar and singing. The door to his bedroom is slightly open, giving Victor a chance to listen to him play without knowing he’s there.
Benji’s voice is soft, Victor muses. Most likely so he won’t annoy his parents with his music.
He waits until he is met with silence from the other side of the door before he gently knocks.
“Come in,” Benji says quietly. Victor pushes the door open, taking in Benji’s red rimmed eyes. Benji looks on in shock, rubbing at his face so Victor couldn’t see the dried tear tracks.
“Victor, what are you doing here?” The question comes out curious, but there’s a bite to it as he looks at him warily.
Victor takes a small step forward, knowing he deserves Benji’s mistrust.
“I told you, you’re too good of a guy to walk away from.” He takes another step forward, looking at the open space on the bed next to Benji.
Benji must notice his silent question and he nods, letting Victor take a seat next to him.
“You broke my trust Victor.” Benji, with the guitar still in hand, plucks gently at the strings, trying to find something to do with his hands.
Victor puts his hand over Benji’s to stop the broken music and nods. “I know, but I also know that if we want it to work, we need to talk. Like really talk. But that only can happen if we both want it to work out.” Victor looks at the boy he has grown to love over the past year, waiting for the inevitable shoe to drop.
“Do you?” He finishes, waiting for a response. Benji could only nod.
“I told you I didn’t think I could ever give up on you, but it seems like you gave up on me Victor. I didn’t think taking a break would end up with me finding you slow dancing with Rahim.” His voice breaks at the admission and he takes a deep breath.
Victor winces, knowing how it looked and tries to put the memory of Rahim kissing him to the back of his mind.
“I was mad. I needed someone to talk to and Rahim was there. We kept going in the same pattern of anger and apologies, but never really talking. Rahim was there and I took the opportunity to make a friend and help him. I didn’t realize I was hurting you in the process, especially telling him about you being in AA. I know I never should have told him that.”
By Benji’s facial expression, Victor knew he was hurt.
But Victor was hurt too and they needed to fix this.
“I know that coming out to your parents was not easy. But it’s different when you’re not white and religious. I need you to see why it was so hard for me.”
Benji nods, grabbing at Victor’s hand and giving it a helpful squeeze for him to keep going.
“I realize now how difficult it must have been for you to basically go in the closet again and be patient with me,” he says gently. “But I knew that my mom was coming around in her own way and it hurt when you guys argued and when you outed me to Adrian.”
Benji winces, knowing how much of an ass he was being that day. He let all of his pent up emotions out at once and he shouldn’t have.
Maybe Victor was better off without him. Who wants to date an addict anyway?
Victor, noticing Benji’s many facial expressions, pulled Benji closer to him.
“Hey, don’t go there.” He rubbed a hand against his boyfriend’s back.
Boyfriends.
They were still boyfriends right? Victor nodded to himself. Yes, they were and he was going to make sure they stayed that way.
“Your uh mom,” Benji starts, clearing his throat. “She came to me before the wedding at Brasstown. She thought it was her fault for our problems, but even I knew that it was bigger than her. She told me how you defended me to her.”
Victor smiles, knowing he was proud of himself in that moment, but also knowing it took a while to stand up for himself and Benji.
Benji continues, “She told me how all relationships have problems no matter the age. I knew I was going to need to fight for you. I already let you down enough by saying those stupid jokes about basketball, not telling you about AA and then making your relationship with your family even more hard. So after my shift, I was going to come to the wedding and apologize for everything, but I saw you with Rahim and it was like a weight just fell on my chest.”
“Rahim kissed me.” Victor blurts out, and waits for Benji’s anger, but he’s met with just a sad expression and Victor can’t take it any longer.
“He told me that he believed there were feelings between us that weren’t just friendly. And he kissed me. I didn’t kiss him back, but all I could think about was your face as you walked away and I needed to get away.”
Benji nods, waiting for Victor to go on.
“I went into Mia’s house and found Felix. He talked about something that his mom did to help with her problems. He asked me who I pictured myself with in the future. Someone I would have a long distance relationship with if it came to that and who I would want to be FaceTiming every day. Who, in the end, would be there after college at my side because we made it through all the bumps in the road of a long distance relationship.”
Benji looks at Victor and whispers, “And who is that?”
“You, Benji. I only see you.”
Gently taking Benji’s face in his hands, he kisses him on the forehead, trying his best to pretend he does not see the tears in Benji’s eyes.
“I’m a mess Victor. I’m a 16 year old who is one year sober and tries to pretend that everything is fine when it’s not,” he takes a deep breath, “it’s really not. Are you sure you want to be with me? I know Rahim is nice and cute and you probably have way more in comm-“ Victor’s lips on his mouth cut off his spiel, and he moves into the kiss, putting his hand in Victor’s hair and getting the faint taste of the cherry lip gloss from the other boy’s lips.
“I only want you. Rahim deserves someone who will love him like I love you,” he smiles,” and that’s definitely not me.”
“I love you too.”
“To make this work, we really need to talk and not let anger and mistrust into our relationship like that again,” Victor says, before smiling as he lets his fingers brush through Benji’s hair.
“But right now, I just really want to kiss you.”
Benji grins back at him, a sparkle in his eye that Victor has been missing for a while.
“Kiss away, Mr. Salazar.” Benji responds, trying to sound seductive and failing. Victor laughs, falling back on the bed.
He fake swoons, “Oh, Mr. Campbell. Please have your way with me.”
“Oh I definitely will,” the shorter boy responds, before kissing Victor on the lips again and laying down on his chest.
Victor smiles down at his boyfriend as he seems to be peppering his chest with gentle kisses before falling asleep. The sound of Benji’s breathing lulls Victor right to sleep.
Tomorrow would be a new day and a new start to their relationship and he couldn’t wait.
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space-malex · 3 years
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I didn't like all the fighting between Benji and Victor either, it frustrated me, but I honestly think that was a deliberate writing choice. A bad one, I might add. There was this interiew with the showrunner who basically said that people don't like to watch couples be happy together for too long because that becomes boring real fast (I don't agree with this, especially because drama can be created in other ways, not just through relationship issues, but it was this interview that made me start dreading the second season). So I guess he decided there should be barely any happiness and mostly misery. I don't even blame people for prefering Rahim at this point. The writing for Rahim (and Rahim/Victor) was much better than for Benji (and Benji/Victor). I just don't think they thought this through very well and maybe underestimated how this could affect the audience, because most of us (?) tend to prefer more happiness and less misery, especially when it comes to queer couples, because believe me, I've definitely watched enough misery in queer cinema to last me a lifetime.
Oh I so get you there. Queer misery is just…way too prevalent still and it’s 2021. The thing is, for me, I never felt that the writing for Victor and Benji was that developed, even in season 1.  Victor had a crush on Benji, it turns out the feelings were reciprocated, and they got together. And then we time jumped two and a half months. We never really got to see development. They hooked up and then we fast-forwarded into a serious relationship without ever getting to see how we got there. It felt unearned to me. So while I did not dislike venji at the time, while I thought they were cute, I wasn’t like…invested.
And then we got s2 which essentially made Benji an antagonist without any character development or insight into his life outside of Victor. Doesn’t exactly make me love their relationship. I agree that people can enjoy some conflict but don’t want to see constant arguing. There were a lot of things that I defended Benji for because I totally understood where he was coming from. Like I understood his frustration with Isabel for sure. But a couple of things he said were just…way too much for me. He made Victor feel guilty and ashamed for liking basketball for one. Like sports are inherently straight or heteronormative and Victor shouldn’t enjoy them? Like it’s some kind of compulsory heterosexuality thing and he was actually making fun of him in front of his friends. And then he made Victor feel like a burden on their relationship because everything is new for him. It was just…so unkind. He made the decision to date a baby gay. He should know the ramifications that go along with that and not make Victor feel bad about it. 
As for Rahim, I fell in love with him the moment we met him. But I assumed he was going to have a friendship with Victor and that was it. But then they started having these little moments. And I liked it.  I felt an unspoken connection there, even before they talked about their families. There’s something fun and playful about them. But they are also so quiet and soft and understanding with each other. They listen to one another. They feel comfortable opening up and are interested in what the other has to say. I like the way the development of their relationship happened, even if it’s still early. It wasn’t based on basic lust or physical attraction. Instead, it’s based on friendship and mutual understanding and liking each other as a person. Yes there is attraction involved, obviously, but it’s not where their feelings sprung from. They just connected.
I don’t know where Victor‘s head is at right now. I think he loves Benji. And I think he wants to make it work with him. But I also think he does have feelings for Rahim and he knows it. I think we see little things as early as 2x07 but Victor is so wrapped up in Benji that I think he doesn’t quite realize it at first. He keeps brushing it off and changing the subject. Partly out of denial but also partly distracted bc of his other relationship drama. But during 2x09 he definitely realizes there’s something there. I mean we get like 5 or 6 separate moments where they’re just LOOKING at each other like that for a prolonged period of time (and don’t get me started on the Simon/Bram karaoke parallel, Bieber song and all). And then, look at the way Victor reacts it 2x10 when he walks into the living room to talk to Pilar and Rahim is there. He gets immediately awkward and kinda shy and doesn’t really know what to say. There is absolutely no reason to act that way when someone is simply your friend with no underlying feelings. 
I completely understand people wanting venji to work out. Like…it’s been Victor’s main love story for two seasons. But I also think some people are very in denial about the fact that there are mutual feelings between Victor and Rahim. They not only don’t want Victor dating someone else, they don’t want him to even feel something for someone else. So they refuse to admit it. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Sorry for the rant! Anyway, I agree on the arguing being on purpose but not a good decision if they are intending to make Benji and Victor continue their relationship without major changes. But, if they are intending on demonstrating that they really aren’t made for each other, I think they’ve done a good job. I guess it all depends on what you think the writers intend for venji/vahim in s3. 
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poly-space-nerds · 3 years
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ok i wanna talk about s2 of love victor
hi okay so just finished and lemme tell y’all. i am not happy. i’m gonna go through all my thoughts and you are all welcome to ignore this. i just have no one else to talk about it with.
Alright! Let’s get started with the things i did like, bc there is so few of them.
Armando!! His support was so surprising!
Isabel learning was grade A for me. I love that it showed her progress and how messy it is. like i very much disliked her at times but damn i was still rooting for her.
Armando and Isabel’s relationship is great. it made me so happy.
Felix’s story with his mom. It was complicated and so very messy but it was good.
Rahim! what a fun character!
The little brother was good too! “spongebob is gay”
Mia’s thing with her dad. (fuck him. weirdly i dislike him more than Isabel) I actually like Mia (and Lake) waaay more this season. They had good conflict.
Andrew was actually kinda nice this season.
There were so many cute venji scenes!!
okay now for the things i actually want to talk about: the bad.
can they actually talk about Felix’s alcoholism?? Please?? Instead of just making it a plot point for venji to fight about????? Literally any focus on felix thanks. (i love victor. and i know this show is literally called love victor. but wow it felt like their relationship was mostly about him all the time. Actually, its most of victor’s relationships. Felix will talk about something and they’ll talk but it’ll just come right back around to Victor’s problems. Like hun, did you even know about Felix’s mom before he moved in with you???)
Pilar. Damn girl what happened to you? Last season was about this anger she had for her mom and the situation. she had her own drama. but this season? She’s barely in it and is reduced to what? Felix’s next love interest? I miss S1 Pilar. Come back please.
ok. ok ok ok. Pilar and Felix. wow. also no. i have never seen real chemistry between them. i have always seen them as a big bro/ lil sis. so much so that i was uncomfortable watching either kisses. when the trailer came out, i was so excited to see them be friends! but now...ew. i am very much not excited to see them together next season. i’m grossed out even thinking about make out scenes.
i’m gonna miss Lake and Felix. a lot. Lake being bi is interesting! never saw her with those vibes but not against it. her and lucy is...something i wish was more developed. and not something that’s happening right after Felix broke up with her. (do these kids just constantly get into relationships??)
ALRIGHTY. time for this. the love triangle. just.. no thank you. I like Rahim! he’s great. i think him and victor have a good friendship. but thats it. just friendship. I felt so, so uncomfortable watching them in the last episode. so much so that i skipped most of it. i certainly skipped Rahim’s confession. my mind was going no no no no thank you no. it was just so unneeded. Victor and Benji are already having problems. why add in another guy. and really?? not all gay people date each other jesus christ. gay people can just be friends! they had good chemistry, but the directors really think that most of us would be happy with this development? Us? the same people who watched Simon and Bram get together and are delighted for their lil happily ever after? Nah. I’d be so disappointed to watch all of venji’s struggles to even just get together, just for them to break up and Victor get in a relationship thats been so poorly developed compared to Venji. (and I mean. i know that’s not gonna happen. victor’s known rahim for like a month. maybe less than that. of course he saw his future with Benji. of course he’s at Benji’s door. it’s a lil insulting they would even try to trick us like that.) I’m here for happily ever afters y’all. 
okay so are we never gonna get a Simon and Bram scene??? like come on! I’m still upset at s1 when they put them in the same room but they didnt interact! now we see Simon again but no Bram! (and why is his apartment so fancy?) I literally just said i’m in it for the happily ever after and they’re not even gonna show Simon and Bram being cute together in theirs??? blasphemy!! (no but seriously whats up with that?? do the actors not like each other or something??)
this season left me so disappointed. like i’m not very excited for the next season. I mean, of course I’ll watch it. maybe. as long as victor didn’t go to Rahim’s house tbh. i’m just brokenhearted and sad. maybe that was the purpose of this season? idk. i’m gonna go not think about pilar and felix.
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