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wrencatte · 3 months

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I"m replaying Fallen Order and I just, I just have to say this. The dream sequence in the beginning? One of the literal best things ever. I love it. It's fantastic.

From waking up in a normal looking car, not even being fully aware Cal actually fell asleep, to interacting with the door for the next car. And this one is filled with the blue-grey haze of an echo, of Cal's meditation circles, but you don't know this yet, but you know there's something off. The further you go through that car, people disappear with each passing moment. Interact with the next door. this one is completely empty except for Prauf. And he's gone through the next one. And then time to interact with the next door -

Let me tell you, the fact that you interact with it and nothing happens yet the interact function doesn't go away? You can keep interacting and interacting to it, but nothing happens. It doesn't go into a cutscene. It doesn't give you hints. You have to make the decision to turn around (playing it a second time made me realize that the sounds of the train actually disappears, I didn't notice the first time). And so, yeah, you think there might be something else you have to do, find a different way off the train, so you turn around and

The train is replaced by the hallways of the Albedo Brave and you just keep walking, and walking, and the hallways expands just like a dream, what was a creepy but mundane dream changes as the alarms sound, and then the sections close and make you interact with it again - this time with the same swirl as an echo. The doors open and it's the haze of an echo, and you meet Cal's master! You get his driving mantra- trust only in the Force - and it is a brilliant piece of game play in my honest opinion.

(and then he wakes up, and the train actually stops, the Second and Ninth Sisters are here - trust only in the Force, Cal, it's telling you something bad is coming!)

THIS is the part that endeared me to the game itself instead of just liking Cal based off his snarky but sweet nature during the climbing tutorial. (i would've kept playing just for Cal, but this made me realize i was going to love this game as a whole)

Not gonna lie, Survivor not having a lot of this type of game play - relying more on cutscenes and interrupting fights for prompts and cutscenes, soured a lot of Survivor for me (I still love the game don't get me wrong).

But this dream sequence? The illusion inside the Vault, the wonderfully interactive way they did the reveal? How you weren't just sitting in a cutscene but actually had to walk Cal through every horrifying scenario that would happen if he took the holocron? The way they introduced his new abilities via what is basically a playable force echo culminating in playing through Order 66?

It's beautiful. It felt/feels like I was/am playing a story instead of playing a game to get from cutscene to cutscene.

#wren rambles #jfo spoilers #cal kestis #i really just needed to get that off my chest.#it's been there since christmas when i got this game #i just really really love this game

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inquisitor-apologist · 10 months

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Ok. Ahsoka Show trailer thoughts:

“War is inevitable. We must destroy in order to create.” Very interesting quote—I assume the thing Thrawn and the rest of the Chiss are trying to ‘create’ is a unified galaxy, which is a much more active approach than they’ve ever taken before. They were fine with waiting out the Galactic Republic’s fall, and they pursued an alliance with the Empire very slowly and carefully, so something big has changed. They’re getting desperate. And yeah, Thrawn is clearly working with the Chiss, the bridge we see him on is very obviously not Imperial.

Ok it seems like these new Sith(?) guys are attacking a New Republic transport of some kind. It looks quite a bit like the prison transport from Mando S1, and given that the Amnesty Program seems to be in charge of it (assuming the scene on the bridge with Elia is the same ship) I think it’s likely that they’re breaking someone out from a top-security transport. Seeing as the ‘We are no Jedi’ scene makes it seem like the Sith(?) got onto the ship by pretending to be Jedi, I’m guessing this is where our mystery Inquisitor comes from

Based on Elia Kane’s reaction to the Sith(?) girl, I don’t think Ahsoka’s group of bad guys are working with the Shadow Council. I think the raid on the prison transport is where the two factions become aware of each other for the first time. However, this throws the Mandalorian’s timeline out of whack—Season 3, where Elia starts working her way up in the Amnesty program, is believed to take place in 11 ABY, but it’s believed that the Ahsoka series takes place in 9 ABY, assumedly right after the end of Mando S2, and I find it very hard to believe that the New Republic gives her command of a prison transport right out of the amnesty program. I’m guessing that this means the Ahsoka Show takes place later than we thought, sometime post Mando S3.

I think that the Sith(?) breakout scene is probably from the very beginning of the show—this is the war Hera is trying to prevent, the Sith(?) returning to fight the New Republic. I think Thrawn doesn’t come in until later. He’s only a rumor so far, and I think the Republic would take him seriously. Plus, I think Hera knows Thrawn well enough to realize that they can’t prevent a war with him if he wants one.

I think that Ahsoka gets dragged into this as one of the only real Light Side users left. The Republic wants to get her help fighting the Sith(?) and, at this point, I think she’s the only one who makes the connection to Thrawn. I think she’s talking to Hera when she says “I started hearing rumors of Thrawn’s return as heir to the Empire”, trying to convince Hera that the Sith(?) are working for/helping Thrawn

Because of this, I’m guessing that Ahsoka brings Sabine back in to help fight the Sith(?) because she’s one of the only other people in the galaxy that has experience with them and that Ahsoka trusts to help her. I think the hints at her being Force-Sensitive are an obvious fakeout—I think it’s likely that, some time post-Endor, Ahsoka was training Sabine with a lightsaber as preparation for going out into the unknown regions, and that’s why she called her ‘master’. The younger Sith(?) explicitly says that ‘Sabine has no power’ after she tries to use the Force, likely out of desperation, so I doubt she’s actually going to be Force-Sensitive. It’s clear that something happened that drove them apart afterwards, which is why Sabine stayed on Lothal so long.

It also seems likely that the return of the Sith(?) leads Ahsoka to realize just how necessary the Jedi are, and to finally reclaim her place as a Jedi, hence the “Warrior. Outcast. Rebel. Jedi.” bit from the first trailer. The inclusion of Huyang makes me think that she’s actively involving herself with Luke’s efforts to rebuild the Order now, and that his thousand plus year-old memory holds some vital information to finding Thrawn, likely involving the ruins from the first trailer and the carving from this one.

Speaking of the carving, it seems I might’ve actually been onto something with this old crack theory. The carving is pretty similar in style to the old Zeffo stuff in Fallen Order, though less well-preserved, but it clearly doesn’t show a Zeffonian. The thing on its chest, however, looks a HELL of a lot like the inner sphere of a Zeffo Astrium, so I still think it’s Zeffo. I’m guessing the figure is a Chiss, and that the Zeffo had some contact with the ancient Chiss, which is how it connects to Thrawn. Based on the old Zeffo message in the Vault that says the last of the Zeffo went ‘into the great unknown’, which has to be the Unknown Regions, I’m guessing that the ruins we see Ahsoka exploring are Zeffo, and that they contain some kind of map to the Unknown Regions that’ll be able to find Thrawn.

Interestingly enough, it doesn’t seem like the Magistrate and Sith(?) are actually working for Thrawn yet—the younger Sith(?) asks what will happen when they find Thrawn, which means that they don’t actually know where he is yet. They’re trying to find him for some kind of nebulous ‘power’ he possesses, but just like Ahsoka, they haven’t found him yet. However, Ahsoka refers to Thrawn as Elsbeth’s master in Mando S2, so it’s likely that she is working directly for him, and I think it’s probable that Thrawn wanted her to recruit the Sith(?) and gave her the location of the ruins as a way to find him afterwards. I’m guessing the Sith are going to fill a similar role to Joruus C’boath from the EU, but since I never finished Heir to the Empire, I can’t say exactly what that is.

The older Sith(?) says that Anakin spoke highly of Ahsoka, and his apprentice has a Padawan braid, which, I’m guessing, means that he was a Jedi who either left or Fell during the Clone Wars, which was why he survived Order 66. Ahsoka also seems to know about him and his connection to Anakin, because she’s not surprised at all that Balan knew him, she just doesn’t want to talk about him. Based on all this, I think Balan is going to try to convince Ahsoka to join him, since she left the Order too. I’m guessing that confronting Balan is what makes her realize that she has to come back to the Jedi Order and stop running from her past.

We see a new message from Ezra, different than the one from the finale, so I guess it was something he recorded earlier. From the subject matter: “when you’re a Jedi, sometimes you have to make the choice that no one else can” and the symbolic hair-cutting right after, he probably recorded it about Kanan’s death—there’s no way he had time to record a whole different message for Sabine. The bit afterwards, “I’m counting on you to see this through” is probably about liberating Lothal, which helps explain why it took so long for Sabine to realize that Ezra wanted her to find him, too. If she found another message telling her that he was counting on her to save Lothal only, then she would have been a lot less likely to consider other implications. Weirdly, this is the only time in the trailer Ezra even comes up, despite the fact that in the Rebels epilogue, Sabine and Ahsoka’s primary objective was to find Ezra, not Thrawn

We see Sabine and Ahsoka flying towards/through a giant statue thing that rises out of an ocean at one point in the trailer, which is probably some kind of piece of Chiss technology, since it doesn’t look like anything we’ve ever seen before. In this scene, Ahsoka’s wearing what looks like a New Republic pilot’s uniform, which is really interesting. We know she’s a pretty good pilot in Clone Wars, but I can’t see her actually going into the New Republic military, which brings up some implications—did she steal it for some reason? Did the New Republic refuse to support them, so they’re working against it too?

Lastly, and absolutely most importantly—this season, at least, takes place before the Rebels Epilogue. There are a couple scenes that very clearly parallel the epilogue, probably to make us think it’s a remake of that scene, but there are a few key differences: when Sabine’s in the comm tower in the end of Rebels, she sees what we can assume to be Ahsoka’s fighter and two x-wings. In Ahsoka, there’s only the fighter. Plus, when she looks up at them in the epilogue, her hair is already short and she’s wearing her armor, while Sabine still has long hair and civilian clothes in the trailer. When Sabine’s on her speeder in Ahsoka, she’s got long hair, her civilian clothes, and is wearing a helmet. In the epilogue, she’s wearing her armor, has hair short, and has no helmet. Also, even after her haircut, Sabine’s hair in Ahsoka is different to the endcard—it doesn’t have shaved sides, is choppy in the back, and is more magenta in color. In Rebels, the hair is more blue-purple, the sides are shaved, and the back is neat, with a hint of the season three lavender near the neck. Sabine also touches the painting of Ezra differently—in the epilogue she taps it twice, closer to the eye, before stroking the cheek, while in the trailer she only strokes the cheek. Lastly, and most importantly, Ahsoka is wearing a gray cloak in the trailer, but in Rebels she has a white one. Dave Filoni directly compared Ahsoka in the Rebels epilogue to Gandalf, and Gandalf wears grey before he wears white. Ahsoka is wearing grey before she can wear white. The Ahsoka Trailer takes place before the Rebels epilogue. I’m guessing that the season will end with an actual remake of the endcard, with Sabine in her proper armor and hair, and Ahsoka having returned to the Jedi, now able to wear white rather than gray. Since Ahsoka S2 isn’t confirmed, this might mean we could get a proper, animated Rebels Sequel following Ahsoka and the epilogue, but, unfortunately, I doubt it, it’ll probably just be Season 2.

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