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electricbloodflow · 5 months
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DID is simultaneously the most subtle, ambiguous disorder while also being the most intense, all-encompassing, extremely-personal-because-it-affects-fundamental-perceptions-like-memory-and-identity-at-all-hours-of-the-day disorder of all time.
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lefluoritesys · 6 months
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imilliehawks · 6 months
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Being a caregiver, I realized that one of the best ways to help somebody without freaking them out even more is by rephrasing your questions and offerings in a way that would give them the choice to choose. It should he obvious that when you ask, for example, "Can I give you a hug?" you are offering a choice, but that's not the case for people who are freaking out or blacking out. It's way better to ask, "Would you like me to give you a hug?" or "Do you want a hug?" instead.
Same with:
⛔️ Can I hold your hand? | ✅️ Do you want to hold my hand?/Do you want me to hold your hand?
⛔️ How can I help? | ✅️ What would you like me to do to help?
⛔️ Can I do X? | ✅️ Do you want me to do X?/Would you be okay if I did X?
⛔️ Can I see? | ✅️ Am I allowed to see?
The more you state it in the sentence that it's in the person's abilities to turn you down, the better. First sentence matters. People who are actively freaking out or blacked out would not care for a long and complicated explanation as to why you said what you said. They most likely can barely hear anything at the moment. And can barely understand anything that's happening around them.
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mimikyu-chr · 6 months
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unpopular opinion - the tiktok system community has changed people’s perceptions of DID so much and it’s kind of irritating for those of us who don’t fit the stereotype it’s created.
- a system who dosent exactly fit the tiktok stereotype and is fakeclaimed because of it.
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theresidentfullmoon · 4 months
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POV: You're a system.
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museofdeity · 8 months
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being a system is going through years and years of abuse and torment. being a system is sitting in the shower sobbing because you don’t know who or where you are. being a system is losing year-long friends because they refuse to believe you. being a system is looking the worst parts of you in the face and going “i think we can change”. being a system is holding a child version of yourself and repeating “i love you” over and over again.
being a system is hugging yourself and saying, “hey, we’re gonna be okay.”
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borderlinedolly · 9 months
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A Small Reminder For OSDDID Systems
There is no such thing as the "perfect system." Your brain developed this disorder in the best way it saw fit to help you survive. As such, your system structure and the way it functions is specific to you, the trauma you underwent, and the way you reacted to it.
You might have more nonhuman alters than other systems, or you might form introjects easier. You might have hundreds of fragments, or you might have none. You might have 2 alters, you might have 10, or you might have hundreds.
Your system is catered towards your specific needs. While we all share symptoms and aspects in common, our systems are unique to us. What that means differs from person to person. Some might have hundreds of introjects, and some might have none. Both system were needed for their body's survival.
Your system is valid as it is, even if others try to tell you otherwise. What your system "should" be like is exactly how it already is because it's your system, and it was made to help you survive.
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sys-thoughts · 5 months
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Friendly reminder
You can choose to not have a stance. You don't need to have a stance on everything. It's okay to choose to not have an opinion on discourse. It doesn't make you stupid, or indecisive. It might just mean you aren't educated enough, or it's a topic you aren't really bothered with.
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anonsystem · 6 months
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Rules For Reading Clinical Content About RAMCOA
1. Have a safety person on call. Before you try to read anything, pick at least one member of your support system who knows what they're talking about with regards to RAMCOA, and tell them all the following information: what you're reading, how long you'll be reading it, and if you have access to the information) what programs are likely to get triggered by it so they know what to prepare for.
2. Set a limit. Either a time limit or an amount. I usually say either 30 minutes *or* up to two chapters of whatever I'm reading. This way you have a hard out and you (hopefully) won't overextend yourself. You can always come back to it later, but these things take time. You cannot and will not figure all of it out at once.
3. Know when to stop. If you feel dizzy, if you keep forgetting what you're reading, if you get "stuck" on one particular line, or if you're suddenly dissociating more heavily, that's an indicator from your brain that you need to take a break. Even if you haven't hit your hard limit yet, trying to continue is going to seriously hurt you. Put it away, drink water, and do a non-taxing self-care activity.
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pink-devolve · 2 months
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As someone who is a programmed PF-DID system, we need to stop using the term HC-DID. Here’s why ⬇️
1. The system that coined the term is a groomer and is anti-semitic. There is evidence(some screenshots included below) of the MayMay system(The 20y/o coiner of the term) being sexual towards minors up to 5 years younger than them. In MayMay’s discord server, 15 year olds are allowed in NSFW channels that have sexting in them. MayMay has joked about sexually assaulting a 16 y/o. There is a 15 year old that seems to always be with MayMay, and constantly talks about interacting with MayMay in a NSFW context. Etc etc etc. There have also been screenshots of MayMay using the term “Jew” as a derogatory insult.
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2. The term excludes programmed systems that do not have a highly complex case of DID Many programmed systems can not use the term “HC-DID” due to having OSDD, not having PF-DID, etc. All programmed systems have distinct differences from non-programmed systems, but programmed systems without a highly complex case of DID don’t have a straightforward term to describe their experience. I’ve seen a lot of people use the term HC-DID and programmed interchangeably, and imo that’s not fair to other survivors trying to find community.
3. You can have a highly complex case of DID and not be programmed. You can have trauma that is just as extreme as the trauma experienced by programmed systems, end up with a highly complex case of PF-DID, and not be programmed. I’ve met some non-programmed PF-DID systems with insane system structures. One system I knew was not programmed, but had hundreds of different alters, all with very specific roles, hierarchy, and layers, that all fronted to do very specific tasks. They told me they had a specific alter who fronted to wash their hands, and another specific alter who fronted to sleep on wednesdays. Their case could absolutely be considered highly complex, but again, they weren’t programmed.
4. We have terms used/created by professionals, that don’t have any of these issues. The terms mind-controlled DID (MC-DID) and Torture based mind control DID (TBMC-DID) have both been coined by professionals, can be used with other plural disorders(MC-OSDD), or to describe all plural disorders at once(MC-system), can’t be used to describe non-programmed systems, etc.
Overall, I don’t have an issue with individuals that use the term HC-DID, I just think it’s annoying that it’s the default way to say “programmed system”. I honestly think the term is a fine way to describe systems with a highly complex structure, and should still be used in that context. But if we do that, the term should be open to non-programming survivors as well. There is absolutely no reason to fight over this term. It’s really not that deep. But if you’d like to debate respectfully I am happy to.
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electricbloodflow · 6 months
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dissociative experiences scale 2
The DES is such a fun diagnostic tool. I've had a couple of therapists and psychiatrists administer it to me. It's an empirically tested scale that gets a feel for tbe magnitude of a person's dissociation.
I score differently depending on alter (they reason what each question means and how frequently it occurs differently) but usually score in the 45 to 65 range. When I was younger my scores were generally in the 60 to 80 range. Progress!?
I used to score high on questions like dissociating so hard you literally see yourself in the third person and you are approached by people you don't recognize who know you, but I very rarely experience that anymore. I keep forgetting about the experience of seeing myself in the third person during dissociative episodes - that was such a severe symptom that I used to occasionally experience.
For anyone interested in taking it, you can take it here. Today, I obtained a 66. I have been unusually stressed lately.
The website has some interesting information on here. In studies, certain mental illnesses were associated with certain scores.
>!Dissociative Experiences Scale Scores
Explained High and Low DES Scores
High levels of dissociation are indicated by scores of 30 or more, scores under 30 indicate low levels. Successful treatment of a dissociative disorder should reduce the DES score when compared to the result before treatment began. Very high scores do not necessarily mean a more severe dissociative disorder is present, this is because the scale measures both normal and pathological dissociation.
Dissociative Identity Disorder and the DES
Only 1% of people with Dissociative Identity Disorder have been found to have a DES score below 30. A very high number of people who score above 30 have been shown to have Posttraumatic Stress Disorder or a dissociative disorder other than Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Clinical Uses of the Dissociative Experiences Scale
If a person scores in the high range (above 30) then the DES questions can be used as the basis for a clinical interview, with the clinician asking the client to describe examples of the experiences they have had for any questions about experiences which occur 20% of the time or more. Alternatively, the Dissociative Disorders Interview Schedule (DDIS) or Structured Clinical Interview for Dissociative Disorders (SCID-D) can be used to reach a diagnosis.
Average DES Scores in research:
General Adult Population 5.4
Anxiety Disorders 7.0
Affective Disorders 9.35
Eating Disorders 15.8
Late Adolescence 16.6
Schizophrenia 15.4
Borderline Personality Disorder 19.2
Posttraumatic Stress Disorder 31
Dissociative Disorder Not Otherwise Specified 36
Dissociative Identity Disorder (MPD) 48!<
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lefluoritesys · 6 days
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sysboxes · 1 month
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[Text: This system is currently questioning if they’re highly complex, please be patient with them.]
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[Text: This system is currently questioning if they’re extremely complex, please be patient with them.]
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[Text: This system is currently questioning if they’re programmed, please be patient with them.]
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xenodelic · 10 months
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An attempt to describe emotions with polyfragmented DID
Big disclaimer up top that this is just our experience, and we can only speak for ourselves. We were motivated to write this based on a conversation we had with a loved one, trying to explain how we experience strong emotions as a polyfragmented DID system.
This revolves mainly around the existence of emotional fragments, and the structures they take on within our system. Keep in mind, any plural person can have fragments, but having complex structures of many fragmented parts is, of course, a key feature of polyfragmentation.
1.) Trigger
Cue any sort of emotional trigger. Fragments can either split right in that very moment, or already existing ones can be brought up by the trigger. Typically several will appear at a time, each embodying a different reaction to the trigger.
2.) "Hijacking"
This is perhaps a bit of a loaded word, but this is what it feels like for us once the fragments start to front. Whoever else is fronting will typically still be there, but their reactions and behaviors will be heavily influenced by the fragments. Our mindset will very suddenly change, and we'll be thinking through the lens of whatever emotion or memory that fragment embodies.
3.) Dissociative Barriers
We can be experiencing very obvious signs of acute distress - i.e., blood pressure and heart rate increase, flushed skin, dizziness, headache, etc. But still be completely unaware that we're in distress. This is because even when the fragment is hijacking, it is still separated by a "wall" of dissociation. We often cannot perceive that its there, or identity the actual emotion associated with it, because of this dissociation.
(This was the part our loved one was most shocked by - because we had expressed before that we can be distressed and not realize it, but they had no idea why or how that worked!)
At best, we realize that there is something wrong, but severely struggle to identify what emotions are actually there. Attempting to identify the emotion can result in strong resistance, as we have parts that specifically exist to stop us from identifying other parts.
4.) Rapid sequence
Depending on the trigger, there will usually be several fragments that come up in succession. This can often be a pre-determined sequence that is tailored to the specific trigger. So for example, they may come up in the order of anxiety > fear > lashing out > self loathing > depression. After the sequence is finished, we are often "reset" to a neutral state.
We can experience a severe trauma trigger, play out a sequence of intense emotions, and return to a neutral within the span of 10-20 minutes (its not always that short, but it usually lasts a maximum of a couple hours for us). The pattern of the sequence is typically very predictable, sometimes even methodical.
5.) Emotional Amnesia
After all is said and done, the fragments more or less disappear. Within just a few minutes, we might not even recall that we were in distress. Often times we remember that something was wrong, but won't be able to recall the details or identify what emotions we were experiencing at all.
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We hope this makes some sense, and that folks can conceptualize what we're trying to describe. Its a very complex process that we're only just recently being able to unravel. We spent the first 20+ years of our life thinking this was entirely normal and that's just how everyone experiences emotions.
Anyone, particularly other polyfrag systems, are welcome to add to this post with their experiences. We hope maybe this will resonate with some folks and help give a way to describe their experiences. This was an exercise of self-expression for us, so any sort of feedback is welcome!
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granulesofsand · 10 months
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Violent Survivors
As I’m seeing more content about the Crowded Room, there are some things I want to say.
I do understand that DID (or any other CDD) systems get a lot of negative attention from media. These disorders have been demonized by horror creators who only see us as a fun moral exercise, and it isn’t fair that survivors are reframed as abusers or liabilities. Most systems aren’t violent, most trauma survivors are not violent.
However. Some systems do struggle with secondary issues. Depending on what had to be done internally to achieve survival and not victimization (death), folks can come out of their abusive environments with a variety of unhealthy coping skills.
Some of us did have to hurt people. Some of us had to emotionally cope with that. Some of us didn’t have a choice as to whether or not we perpetrate, because if one alter won’t we will be split until someone will. That doesn’t even include systems who end up with personality disorders or other adaptive survival skills that don’t work in a safe environment.
I, as an alter, have been hurt by people who didn’t actually have another option. I have been hurt by people who did have another option. And I wholeheartedly forgive them. I also was them. There are cycles that go on that don’t always have an off ramp, and I cannot overemphasize how lucky we were that we got out. Because it was just that. Luck.
I can respect the right of the people I’ve hurt to be angry, afraid, pained, or any other emotion they’re having about me. The rest of y’all are not those people. It takes so much to keep from drowning in shame about the things that I’ve done, the belief that I am unforgivable and inherently bad.
This isn’t helping. I did what I needed to do to survive. There are more layers to these things than meet the eye, and it is still okay for survivors to be upset at abusers. It just isn’t okay to go on about how impossible it is for a system to be violent.
It takes a lot to heal. Anger is a good emotion to grab onto, especially if you struggle with fawning. But I didn’t hurt you. Leave me out of it, leave my system out of it, leave everyone like us out of it. RAMCOA survivors did what we had to to survive, we don’t need to put ourselves in danger with this toxic shame. Take your anger to the producers.
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beltcrafter · 6 months
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.....I legit forgot who I was a fictive (potentially also factive) of and questioned why I was drawn to crows for 2 fronting days
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