#heartstopper opinion

[proship-ghost]

⚠️ TW for SA, EDs, SH, Suicide, mentions of ableism basically the main points of things that could and can be triggering ⚠️

This is a rather controversial take that- and I may be wrong- I'd love to hear you're opinions and ideas

Honestly, I don't really like the Boyfriends webtoon OR Heartstopper either or one more than the other, as an MLM, poly and trans person

In my eyes at least, I think with Heartstopper a lot of the issues that were brought up we're not given enough time to be properly settled without it feeling rushed. Topics of EDs, SA, and similar behaviors are rushed and even in the show with Ben specifically, it's used as a plot point to get the main characters together, it feels tacky in a sense. Everyone seems to praise it for amazing LGBTQ+ rep (which it does have mostly everyone under the umbrella which is nice to see) but at the same time when it's hard to see characters beyond their label and spin-the-wheel interest in my eyes it's rather flat.

Boyfriends isn't that much better by any means, but it's a different reason. While people like to shit on and constantly slander the webtoon, (creator aside) they never seem to bring up the proper reasons.

USUALLY it's : Nerd is a proshipper (whoopty fucking do), it's cringy, the ads are bad, infantilizing sexualized characters, stereotypes, etc etc.

First off, Cringe culture is shitty and constantly placing something you don't like as cringy is shittier. Stop.

Second, the ads ARE bad in a lot of cases- the voice acting is odd and doesn't really fit the characters in my eyes- especially for Goth.

Third, Nerd isn't infantilized by any means which definition speaking "treat (someone) as a child or in a way which denies their maturity in age or experience." It's weird to see people claim he's infantilized because he's short, likes bright colors, and gets hyperfixated on K-pop, cartoons, anime, the similar ideas. It feels almost ableist in a way since (again, my opinion) Nerd feels very neuerodivergent.

•The entire point of them being Goth, Nerd, Prep, and Jock is to make fun of the stereotypical Disney-esque cliques in highschool/college settings. That's the entire point, it has little to no correlation to their queerness point blank period.

The only GENUINE criticism outside the authors behaviors (which, you can easily seperate the content from the creater) is that the characters who are of Japanese and Asian race all look like white men, which I do agree- it feels as though the author added their races to add more rep than they did to actually make those characters that race.

TLDR; Boyfriends the Webtoon is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be and Heartstopper is not as great as everyone praises it for- they're both good but they're not perfect by any means.

#TLDR at end #TWs #My opinion #Heartstopper opinion #Boyfriends webtoon opinions #proshipper safe #proship #proshipping

[leedee013]

Heartstopper (Netflix)

Oh boy oh BOY am I overjoyed to finally see this show!!!!

I’ve been following the comic fairly religiously since 2020, and the fact that the Netflix adaptation was so true to the original content was fantastic.

Because let me tell you, when I say that I watched the entire show while smiling like an IDIOT, I’m not lying. I was worried my face would be sore. It’s like, me watching Heartstopper was literally Nick when he’s watching Charlie play the drums UGH it was so good

I simply am so happy that something like this series exists. That it CAN exist. I’ve watched shows progressively open up to portraying LGBTQIA+ people as ACTUAL PEOPLE and I can’t even begin to tell you all how different my life would be and would have been if this had come out eight years ago. I never got these experiences in high school. I could have, but I was too afraid. I'm just happy that shows like these might make it possible for more people going through the same/similar stage in life to be able to accept themselves more readily. Back when I was in high school, That Steven Universe Episode and idk, Night Vale? were about the epitome of representation that I saw in media. But I think that Heartstopper is my favorite, for a lot of reasons.

For starters, the story of Nick and Charlie warms my whole heart. There’s a lot of love packed into it, and I have to be honest, I’ve read it so many times but I still feel like crying from how beautiful this is every time. To see 1. Trans 2. Bisexual 3. Questioning representation that’s so explicit and well done is rare. And that’s not even brushing on the topic of the diversity we see in these characters as well, considering that these characters are not only part of the alphabet mafia, but several are black, asian, mixed race, etc. as well.

As a fan of the webcomics and books, I’m really looking forward to how the rest of the series will be! If there’s another season, I know we’re in for some really heavy topics, and I’m curious to see how Netflix will handle it.

Also, can I just say that I ADORE the little animations of leaves or sparks or hearts that appear every now and then???! It’s such a great homage to the source material and makes the whole show radiate with that softer, more lively feeling. Also, WE SEE NELLIE?!!!!!

I also have to admit that I love how the show digs into other characters outside of Charlie and Nick. We get to see more of Tara and Darcy and more of Elle and Tao!!!! I love these sidelines, and I appreciate how they all mesh together so well. I really don’t appreciate the erasure of Charlie’s little brother so far, especially since it’s such a cool detail about him (middle child represent!) and I’m still confused about why Imogen is in there? Maybe I’m just forgetting her from the comics? She's a sweet human and I think her little crush on Nick is adorable (would it be possible for anyone in her shoes to NOT have a crush on him?????), and I really like how she's understanding and doesn't push Nick after he asks to stay friends.

I cannot stress enough how much I love this series and this show. It would have changed my life DRAMATICALLY if I had read this when I was 15, and I’m still finding myself changing because of it now. And that’s because I can see myself in every single one of the focal characters. For me, seeing Nick be an openly questioning kid who doesn’t want to announce that he’s questioning until he understands himself better? And then the recognition and acceptance of his bisexuality? That’s mind blowing and also so wild to see represented. I went through that. To see Tao’s fear of being left behind and out of the loop? I feel that. I had a friend of mine actually abandon me for “romance”. I put that in quotation marks because, to make a very long story short, it was an incredibly unhealthy foundation for a relationship. But both her and her boyfriend used my fear of being abandoned against me and gaslit me for a year. She stopped talking to any other person and eventually became so disconnected from everyone else at our school that she transferred. I lived Tao’s nightmare, and I can understand why he was so afraid for and protective of Charlie. I understand Charlie’s feelings of being a waste of space, or an unnecessary burden for others. There was a long stretch of time where it was my dream to just run away and be alone forever so that I couldn’t hurt anyone else. And part of me still wishes for that. I’ve been diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety, and I understand all too well that desire to remove myself from the equation or being too sick with myself to eat. Tara and her discomfort in how the way people treat her changes after she comes out. Hell, I can relate to Charlie's dad because there have been plenty of times when I've picked up friends from bad situations.

^my actual face while watching this show (minus the times when I'm casually sobbing)

So please, for the LOVE OF ALL THINGS GOOD, watch this show, read the comics, and take care of yourself. 🍂🍂🍂

#heartstopper #heartstopper opinion #heartstopper review #nick and Charlie #Netflix #heartstopper nick #heartstopper Charlie #heartstopper nick and Charlie #nick heartstopper #Charlie heartstopper #lgbtq+ #lgbt #lgbtqia #lgbtq community #lgbtq poc #alphabet mafia #gay #lesbian #bisexual #transgender #asexual #aromatic #aroace #aroace representation #gay representation #lesbian representation #bisexual representation #transgender representation #tw mental health #tw: mental health

[heartstopperthoughts]

Sarah Nelson inviting the Spring family to dinner as a buffer between her and her shitty ex-husband

#she did a flying leap onto Nick’s request to have Charlie over #and then suggested the whole family as a fortifying wall #girl boss behavior in my opinion #heartstopper #heartstopper season 2 #heartstopper s2 #heartstopper tv #heartstopper netflix #nick and charlie #nick nelson #charlie spring #sarah nelson

[mystical-overt-333]

i love michael holden LMAO

#best quote #i will not be hearing otherwise #keep your foolish opinions to yourself #this is a masterpiece of literature #this is what human culture has come to #and it is magnificent #solitaire #heartstopper #tori spring #victoria spring #michael holden #alice osemanverse #quotes #funny quotes

[confusionmeisss]

this outfit, this stance, pls 😭😭😭 my son is so awkward. someone help him

#i had to pause bc i was laughing too much #heartstopper #heartstopper season 2 #tao xu #tao heartstopper #tao x elle #tao and elle #ali’s thoughts & opinions 📼

[far-beyond-saving]

I know everyone wants a Solitaire movie (and so do I) but I honestly think they'd fuck it up beyond anyone's imagination.

#heartstopper already make me... cringe #obviously i think it's still good queer (specifically gay) representation and that people are allowed to like it #i know many people defend both the show and the comics saying that it's realistic and not cringe #but i think they are cringe #and i also think that's 200% okay and even necessary #i mean #straight people have their over the top sickeningly sweet romances #and i think heartstopper fits that category but for queer kids #it's nice to have a broad variety of queer (in this case only gay but let's not get into how media hates sapphics/lesbians) representation #i am also not the target audience for the comics or the show #i read the comics a while ago and liked it then #probably because i was like 15 #but i've grown out of it #to be fair #solitaire is also a little cringe #but it's my cringe #anyway #enough rambling about my opinions on the comic and show #i think they would fuck up this hypothetical movie because they already fucked up her character in the show #the actor is great and all but why the fuck would cast someone so old #and 'take care of him or you die' #what?? #the script is beyond evil #but man do i want more solitaire content #tori spring #solitaire alice oseman #solitaire #cynic.txt

[bi-panic-actually]

Heartstopper X Nicotine Dolls

My favorite band + my favorite show = FEELINGS

Dedicated to @ktface3 @h3artst0pp3rs

#this gave me a lot of feelings #in my opinion #heartstopper #nicotine dolls #alice oseman #narlie #nick and charlie #heartstopper netflix #heartstopperedit #nick nelson #charlie spring #charlie and nick #nick x charlie #this song should be in season 3

[demadogs]

might be a hot take but god it pisses me off so much that every wlw show ive watched thats been canceled had an INCREDIBLE plot aside from the romance. like time travel or uncontrollable telekinesis or a fucked up social experiment of a staged plane crash. all very interesting stories and the wlw romance is a bonus and they still get canceled.

but literally nothing else has to happen for a mlm show to break records. nothing happens in shows like heartstopper. its JUST a high school romance. yes theres some wlw and i know people will argue that the focus on just high school is why they like it but it pisses me off how well they do compared to incredibly elaborate and brilliant stories that also have wlw romance. and they do well ENTIRELY bc its mlm.

and its because straight people (specifically straight girls) love mlm stories so shows like heartstopper get the straight audience AND the gay audience but no straight people care about wlw fiction like that. so every wlw show gets a smaller audience because its just a gay audience watching, and it leads to it being canceled every fucking time.

#people might get mad at me for bitching about heartstopper i know its cute and cheesy and harmless but god it drives me crazy how well shows #like that do compared to wlw shows which in my opinion are SO much more interesting plot wise #straight girls will see any mlm show and lose their shit so its so easy for those shows to be successful #stranger things might actually be the first show ive watched with a future wlw couple that didnt get canceled #and this is one of the main reasons why i love byler so much bc its a part of such a bigger story #and i think thats a huge reason why the majority of people who love byler are queer unlike a lot of other popular mlm ships #im furious rn #im tagging byler bc youre all gay #byler #paper girls

[thediamondarcher]

heartstopper (comic) chapters as Taylor Swift songs

#heartstopper #heartstopper comics #heartstopper comic #taylor swift #taylor swift songs #osemanverse #alice oseman #this is only my opinion btw #i had such a hard time choosing the one for chapter 6 😭 #also sorry for the quality idk why tumblr hates me lol #heartstopper alice oseman

[maddy-ferguson]

Unpopular opinion: most people in the active fandom right now will NAUT like season 5 lol (not me though)

are you implying that s5 isn't gonna be heartstopper young royals skam s3 esque. disagree❌❌

#no hate to heartsopper young royals and skam s3 i myself have enjoyed two of those #i don't LOVE young royals like if i was a normal person who knows how to quit shows i probably wouldn't plan on watching s3 #even though i don't hate it. i just only like it fine #i haven't seen heartstopper #unpopular opinion saturday #ask

[cirixwqnd]

ah yes, my favourite trope

one fell first

the other fell harder

#this is how i see them #and no i will not be accepting other opinions tyvm #byler #narlie #will byers #mike wheeler #charlie spring #nick nelson #stranger things #heartstopper #st4 #has this been done before?

[bisexualgiftedburnout]

Possible unpopular opinion (please feel free to discuss): stuff like heartstoppet and red white and royal blue aren't "girly" shows, or shows made for straight women. Context: just saw a tik tok about how the "girl's girls" and winning cuz of shows and albums being released, and a comment mentioned heartstopper and red white and royal blue as well. And like, I don't want to gatekeep, but come on!!!! Straight cis girls get everything, and I'm here contorting me identity into little boxes to feel like I belong, and all of a sudden shows made for a queer person like me are for the "girl's girls" ???? Like im right here stop forgetting i exist!!! Do I not get to claim anything????? Anywaysss it's not that deep, please share your opinions on this I'm curious!!

#heartstopper #red white and royal blue #girl's girls #queer #unpopular opinion

[heartstopperthoughts]

Listen, I completely understand why this line was removed from the show, but I also freakin love it so goddamn much 😢

#and then Charlie gets the life kissed outta him #the second first kiss as I’ve dubbed it is better than the first kiss in the comic in my opinion #the first first kiss in the show tho 🤌 #but I understand that this line kind of diminishes Charlie’s other friendships #but I’ve always loved how Nick and Charlie are just best friends at their core #best friends who also kiss ya know? #heartstopper #nick and charlie #nick nelson #charlie spring

[whitestopper]

Okay, before Season 2 comes out, here is my Heartstopper confession: when I first started watching the show, I thought that Tao and Elle were already dating and were going to slowly drift apart, and that Elle was going to go out with Tara or Darcy. It starting seeming off when Tao talked about their friendship and it clicked when Elle had her realisation moment.

#it mine #heartstopper #tao xu #taoelle #elle argent #darcy olsson #tara jones #tbf there's so much discourse about who can be attracted to trans people and oseman strikes me as an online person #the opinions usually go 'mspec labels' to 'also bi people' to 'also gay people' to 'also lesbians' to 'also straight people' #(the answer is 'anyone who isn't aroace' btw) #anyway my retrospective analysis tends to be more reliable than my immediate analysis

[idmnbc]

After seeing that many people only rescue the asexual and not the aromantic in Isaac, I hope that in the next season we can see moments where his aromanticism is more emphasized. The word was only mentioned once, while 'asexual' did come up at different times, like when Isaac grabs Angela Chen's book, which was amazing and beautiful. But we need the aromantic joy to be exposed and shouted from the four winds <2

#I trust in Alice #bcs many aro spec people start their journey first in the ace area #my aroace journey #isaac henderson #isaac heartstopper #aroace #aro #ace #heartstopper #osemanverse #I know this is a hugeeeee step bcs its the first time i watch in a comercial media product pronouncing the word ARO and that is pure gold #maybe MAYBEEEE the story arc in this is that Isaac will read abt aromanticism in the book #so he will start to research and find that there's little to none representation #maybe he will buy common bonds #idk idk idk aaaa #+ this a personal opinion #but I enjoy more my aro side that my ace side #dont get me wrong I like both but the freedom and enjoyment that I am discovering since I know that I am ARO is unmatched

[fandomsthroughtimeandspace]

I know Heartstopper isn't for everyone and isn't the perfect show, but personally I am so glad this show/comic exists. It really brings so much healing and happiness to me even through the heartbreaking moments. Even when it goes into the deeper and more heartbreaking moment it is still such a comfort show/book, and I absolutely love it.

#heartstopper #personal opinion #not gonna be liked by everyone