#but i also dont want to kill neither of them cause they are very entertaining villains too đđđ„ș
act 3 is so overwhelming đ© i am kind of lost in which order to do stuff since there are always timed quests that fail after some amount of long rests đ„Č
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Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting (but Sundays are meant for rest) - The Bet
Part 2
Continuation of my timinette thing... I really need to give it an actual name.
Soooo. I wasn't planning on continuing this nor expecting the sheer amount of attention this recieved (dear goodness, I dont even know how to react, like actually thank you all so much?) But im going to try and actually continue this further if people are interested. Anyways!
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It took less than 6 hours for Damian to realize something was off.
"What happened."
"I haven't the slightest what you're on about."
"Tt."
Despite knowing he would know eventually, Marinette enjoyed watching him get frustrated over not knowing. No matter, once he got the subject matter or at least a piece of the puzzle, she'd provide him the full picture. Best he finds out from her and not draw his own conclusions.
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Less than two hours.
Less than two hours and Damian had already caught on to the subject of her change. Would've been easier to throw him off had Tim not decided to return to the Manor right then⊠dressed in business attire, obviously having come from a board meeting. He looked unfairly attractive in a wine red button down, sleek black tie and vest, detailed in intricate gray designs, almost too fine to see to an untrained eye. Truly wasted on the stiffs he probably met. Add in the surprisingly well rested look about him and tousled black hair falling about his face⊠well⊠let's just say Mari was distracted.
"What'd Tim do?"
"Hmm?" Marinette hummed to Damian, not really paying attention to what he said.
"You're staring. What'd he do?"
"Oh⊠Oh!" Mari snapped out of it, turning to him, flustered, "not here."
Narrowing his eyes, he grabbed her by the hand and pulled her from the room, not missing how Tim's eyes zeroed in on their clasped hands, a contemplative look about his face. Getting back to his own room, he closed the door shut tight and turned to his friend.
"Alright, explain."
"I want to date your brother."
"I'm being serious," he ground out.
"So am I."
"Why?"Â
"Are you okay with it?" She asked, watching closely for any tells that might give him away. His left eye twitched, but that could just be from her avoiding the question.
"Why do you want to date him?"Â
"What? You want me to gush about your older brother to you?"
"If it'll allow me to understand the situation, yes."
"Fine. He's sweet, highly intelligent, knows how to offer quiet companionship without pushing but can also get the whole story from very little, enjoys the same weird niche humor as me, but brings his own twist to it. Tim doesn't mind that I'm clingy and cuddly and likes how warm I am even when I'm cold and snuggling for warmth. It certainly doesn't hurt that he's insanely attractive and I feel bold and daring when I flirt with him. So there. I want to date him. Do you have a problem with it? Cause I'll back off if you do."
"... What happened last night?"
"We might have had to cut each other off from coffee and watched vine for 22 minutes straight." She admitted with a sheepish grin then paused a moment as though unsure if she should continue, "I also might have fallen asleep on his chest⊠With permission of course."
" Figures. Jon and Chloe are going to get a kick out of this. Whatever, date him. He's likely already smitten so I'm sure he'll be wrapped around your finger soon enough. Even if he wasn't, we could definitely dispose of the body between the four of us if things went south."Â
"Dami! That's your brother! And he won't be wrapped around my finger. He'll be my equal."
"And you're my Angel."
20 seconds
She stared him down for 20 seconds before his lip twitched into a smirk.
"I'm playing. I wouldn't kill him. Just maim him a little. So, how do you plan on telling the rest of the family when you inevitably end up charming him?"Â
"That reminds me! It may be harder than you'd think. Apparently they all think we're dating. Tim wouldn't even let me into too much contact with him until I cleared up that we weren't."
"Good."
"What?"
"I'd be more concerned if he was fine holding you while under the presumption you were taken."
Realization hit her, "Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, good point. But back to the point, if he thought we were dating, the rest certainly do."Â
Damian nodded decisively, laying back on his bed to stare at the ceiling.
"That's not too surprising. They've hinted at it lightly and neither of us confirmed nor denied anything. Hmm⊠this could be entertaining."
Pursing her lips, Mari narrowed her eyes at him, "What type of bet are you thinking?"
Smirking up at her he replied, "How long it will take them to realize you and Tim are together."
"Hmm⊠rules?"
"Bet goes into effect the second he calls you his. In any form that hints at a romantic connection."
Nodding, she added, "Neither of us can give any overt indication that we are not dating nor that Tim and I are. We cannot tell them in any form unless directly asked, but if they ask, you must honestly answer. None of our usual needling and tricks either. If you bend the rules, it's an automatic disqualification."
Contemplating the words a moment, Damian nodded, "Loser covers the other's terrible excuses."
"We inform Tim of the bet within a week of it going into effect."Â
"Fair enough. What's your bet?"
She thinks it over for a moment, not wanting to forget any variables before making her decision.
"It'll take everything except the actual words, 'we are dating' for them to get it. We won't have to outright state that I'm with Tim, but you will have to outright say you aren't with me at some point. It'll take over 2 months."
Considering her, he looked back to the ceiling, noticing a slightly discolored spot, "In agreement then. Except. You'll have to tell them you're dating. Not me or Tim. You. They won't believe it from anyone else. It'll take 3 months at least."
"Bet settled then."
Sitting up, Damian grabbed her hand and very firmly shook it, a serious air about them both. She broke first, falling back and giggling, giddy with excitement and relief.Â
"So how long till he asks you out then? Can't be long the way he watched us leave."
"Oh I already sort of asked him."
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dunno if iâll be able to finish this. but so like dabihawks au where like. dabi does his research aka when he was touya he was with his dad once during the whole takami thief thing and met keigo. flash forward he doesnt believe a thing about this hero hawks. sees him for the fabricated person he has become. and eventually hawks sees dabi for who he really is and was and like vigilante-ish dabihawks. bits about the au and the snippet i wrote under the cut.
cause this shit gets LONG af
hawks feels fake. doesnt rlly know who he has even become
the commission kinda forced a lotta habits out of him and completely molded him into who they want him to be
he barely even finds his name to be anything more than a strangerâs name at this point.Â
anyway so dabi p much knows who he is. does his own digging. and kinda puts some pieces together and sees how fake hawks is
hawks barely even knows if he shows any genuine emotions at this point. heâs kinda at a breaking point where he cant recognize himself and separate keigo from hawks. feeling like hawks has just swallowed him whole
he does show genuine things though. sometimes says or does shit out of line but he tends to have obedience beat into him even if he sometimes has a bit of a mouth on him. itâs mild tho
at the start of dabi working w hawks, hawks was very careful
it kinda progressed into keigo coming out more around dabi even though it was in bits and pieces
anyway dabi puts two and two together and realizes him and hawks are pretty similar and instead of seeing him as a traitor (though heâs sure that heâs not 100% on their side) he sees him as someone who can fit in with the misfits and he can p much fully convince hawks to ditch the bs
so the confrontation happens (see ending snippet) and hawks is like wtf just happened
and p much eventually thereâs some tender moments between dabi and hawks and hawks ends up explaining how used heâs felt
he has been molded into the perfect obedient soldier; maybe sorta kinda explains that the commission is having him do double agent duties and instead of reacting badly dabi is p receptive and doesnt just try to kill him. instead he can see how badly hawks wants to break out of his cage and fly free and he deeply feels for that and knows how that can feel and is like aight well fuck them
so hawks kinda double agents on the commission??Â
and he does end up meeting the LoV and like sees how human they are
but also heâs like damn son but okay i dont agree w everything
and dabi is like yeahhh same ??? idk they are a means to an ends for me but also not lmaoÂ
and then thereâs some dabi spilling his guts as they get closer and get more intimate and very much boyfriends
and hawks is so livid and he cant help but fuck around with endeavor the next time he sees him. and like heâs just so much more distant to him. he canât begin to wrap his head around it. and heâs so broken that like.. the one person that he saw as his true hero. that âsaved himâ is a horrible person behind closed doors
the one person who he was inspired by and agreed to join the commissionâs forces for is just horrible
thereâs just a lotta solidarity between hawks and dabi and a lotta shared anger and hurt
and theyâre boyfriends and itâs great but also like hawks isnât a horrible person
neither is dabi ??? i mean listen theyâve both killed ppl. they probs will continue to kinda do it. but itâs always just horrible ppl
like listen killing ?? not great folks??? but also like idk man..Â
they also def leave kids outta this 10000%Â
anyway p much they end up ditching the LoV too. try to get some of them outta that shit. like toga who has become like a sorta lil sister for dabi in a way
they both just feel so horrible and gross seeing kids get into that shit
also like the girl needs some HELP. some therapy and rehabilitation idk
idk i love the morality shit with the LoV but might not play with it too much here
anyway they end up doing their own thing and the commission is quick to denounce him and just ruin his image
and try to kill him lmao they made him a perfect hero which could be a perfect villain and if he isnât working for them heâs working against them (i mean he is) and needs to be Stopped Permanently
anyway hereâs the snippet. my single brain cell that helped write this has left my body:
At this point, Hawks wasnât so sure he was even real. His existence felt fabricated. Each smile or joke carefully placed. Each movement was calculated. He didnât act out of line. His interviews were carefully thought out months in advance if not lies that he himself began to believe after years of telling them. His penthouse had just enough âpersonalâ touches that when he had a spare moment to invite someone over it actually seemed like it could be a home. Hawksâ original motivations were squashed and were pushed aside unless they created an interesting story. His natural mannerisms that came with his mutation quirk were learned to be suppressed. Hell his own name sounded like a strangerâs to his ears. That is if anyone even knew it.Â
âIs there anything real about you, hero,â Dabi spoke. His back wasnât fully to Hawks, left side presented to him as he set a framed graduation photo down and fully faced the winged hero. Dabi stuffed his hands in his pockets and tilted his head to the side some, waiting for an answer. Hawks snorted and gave him an unamused look.
âIâm as real as they get, hot stuff.â He kept a casual air about his words, hands spreading out in surrender. âNot sure what else you expect.â
Hawks was on edge, but he wouldnât let the villain know it. They were supposed to be meeting soon, but once again the villain pulled something unexpected and had been waiting for Hawks in his own apartment. Hawksâ feathers twitched slightly, sharpened edges ready for the command if it came. Dabi leveled him with an unimpressed stare. There was a moment where their gazes met in an intense battle, though Dabiâs look softened as he broke out in a lazy grin.
âYâknow... You might be just as much of a mystery as I am, Pretty Bird.â
âI think Iâm a pretty open book myself.â
âI think you like to let people think that.â
âAnd I think youâre just trying to fuck with me. Can we just get to what you came here for? I had a looong day and kinda wanna get some food and some sleep.â Hawks punctuated his words by stretching his arms up high before shedding off his coat, goggles, and headphones. He tossed the coat over the back of his couch and dropped the gear onto the end table. He hoped Dabi would just drop this whole line of thought, take this as some sort of submission, and be satisfied enough to leave.Â
Wrong.
âOh, we can get to that later⊠You, on the other hand, are much more interesting.â He moved closer, hands coming out of his pockets as he crossed the room to stand a few feet from Hawks.Â
âIâd love to be a great host and entertain you, but unfortunately I wasnât expecting any guests today.â Hawks crossed his arms and watched Dabi carefully, eyes narrowing some in challenge.Â
âThatâs too bad. You know, Iâve been doing some research on you. I donât quite think you are who you say you are, Hawks.â The winged-hero tensed just ever so slightly before forcing his muscles to relax some. He didnât like the way things were going. While Dabiâs fire was his ultimate weakness, heâs sure that heâs fast enough to put a sharpened feather to his throat and end this all here and now than Dabi would be if he wanted to put the spy to an end.
âAnd who do you think I am then, Dabi?â He raised an unruly eyebrow. His primaries ached to shoot out and end this, poised at the ready.
Dabi blinked slowly, bright turquoise eyes disappearing for a moment before shining under heavily lidded eyes. His grin stretched a bit wider, tugging on where healthy skin met the grafts.Â
âI think you arenât the hero you put out there⊠Or the person you say you are. You like to say a lotta nothinâ donât you?â Dabi stepped closer and Hawksâ fingers twitched but his arms remained crossed.
âI think you like to pretend to be this airhead bird. Like to use that name. Like to look like youâre the perfect little hero... Youâre good at it, too. You arenât though, are you⊠Takami Keigo.âÂ
Hawks had a primary feather in each hand, on pressed to Dabiâs throat. It pressed in just enough to draw some blood from the marred skin grafts. He could feel the heat radiating from Dabiâs skin and particularly from the small flames in each of his palms, but the villain made no move to use it against him. He just continued to grin.Â
âWhatâs the look of surprise there, Birdie?â Dabi purred.Â
âHow do you know that name?â He demanded, crowding further into Dabiâs space.Â
âLike I said, I did my research. Now unless you want to end up on the crispy side of cooked, Iâd ease the fuck up,â Dabiâs voice took on a slight bite towards the end and his grin lessened. âAnd here I was going to tell you that you can meet the boss finally. Thought you might be real League material.â
Hawks instincts and mind screamed to press the sharp feather further or at least hold his position, demand answers. His judgment told him to ease off and soften the feathers once more. Hawks didnât move too far from Dabi, though the primary feathers in his hands softened and returned to his wings. The heat radiating off Dabi died down along with the flames in his hands. Steam left his skin as he killed the flames.Â
âMuch better⊠We donât want any incidents like that when you get to meet the boss, right? Youâre lucky Iâm a lot more patient.â Hawks wasnât sure what this was all about but didnât argue with him on that point.
âGlad to see your fake little hero persona is starting to crack.â
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5, 10, 15, 18, 22, 50, 51, 94, and 96 for fisher!!!!
mina i LOVE you
5. Whatâs their reputation like? Does this reputation contrast what theyâre really like?
Fisher probably has the reputation of being, like, a dumb but lovable goofy fuckup? Like being completely incompetent and lazy but still funny and charming enough that you keep them around. Like sans undertale or todd from bojack. a lotta people probably think they wonât amount to much. itâs not super accurate- theyâre accident prone and a slacker but theyâre not stupid and they work really hard if they need to (again, it took effort to cheat like that. sure they coulda avoided that effort if they had studied but thatâs boring). i think part of the reason fisher wants to do well at aeon despite not doing well in hs is cause theyâre sick of people thinking of them in that way and not taking them seriously
10. Whatâs a simple thing that brings them joy?
they really like fast food and snacks. they are easily bought and will love you forever if you make them food. nick and sally and fisher bake together a lot, even though i feel like the latter two are really incompetent when it comes to cooking
15. How good are they at conversation? Are they a small talk master, bad at initiating, etc?
fisherâs easygoing and good at small talk and socializing in theory but i think theyâre really out of practice. theyâre good at making causal acquaintances but theyâre really bad at maintaining friendships cause the only friend they have that isnât their brother (or their brotherâs friend) is sally, and theyâve known each other for so long that neither really remembers how to make new friends. plus no one their age really wanted to be friends with either of them growing up, so they never had the opportunity. I think that theyâd hit it off with someone whoâs really extraverted and fast moving w friendship, which is why they get along so well with glitch! she basically just pointed at them and claimed them as her newest best friend (and perhaps they will be more but i have yet to decide between glitch, k, and sally whoopsie).Â
18. If you had to represent them with a flower, colour, and animal, what would you choose?
flower- the balloon flower! resilient, easy to care for, but still a little gloomy looking (depending on the color)
color- dark blue! blue is their favorite color! dark blue is a little gloomy but is also a very sturdy and solid looking color (if that makes sense)
animal- oh absolutely a big fat cat, they definitely make the :3c face once a day, theyâre full of mischief, and they love to take naps
22. Whatâs their silliest or most unusual fear/phobia?
they strike me as someone who cried when they went to disney as a kid cause theyâre scared of the mascots. itâs something about mickeyâs big, dead, unseeing eyes
50. Why would they be a good partner for a road trip?
will listen to any music, funny, good at telling stories, easygoing so you wouldnât get into a fight
51. Why would they be a BAD partner for a road trip?
oh they absolutely do not have their driverâs license. 1) they never got around to it and nick and sally drive them everywhere anyway 2) they have adhd so they just dont trust themself to concentrate well enough to not kill someone 3) theyâre extremely directionally challenged (canât tell left from right gang rise UP) and 4) I think theyâre really afraid of having another mind control episode behind the wheel or being otherwise hindered by their mind blindness
94. What does their room look like?
oh god itâs disgusting. used dishes, clothes on the floor, stuff everywhere, etc. they know where everything they need is, but it is GROSS. nick just doesnât go in there anymore cause it gives him a headache. I imagine itâs nicely decorated though, with posters of stuff they like and pictures of fisher and sally and nick and gray (and eventually glitch and kent) on the walls. I think they have a lot of stuffed animals too, and oh god. oh god they absolutely collect funko pops. it started out as ironic but sally always gets them some for holidays (only having like one or two friends means she absolutely goes all out, I imagine) and now itâs just a problem. they wonât admit that they like them but they do.Â
96. Whatâs their sense of humour like? (Dad jokes, morbid humour, basic knock-knock jokes, stand up comedy, etc)
itâs basically all self-deprecation. fisherâs highest stat is humor but morbid isnât too far behind, so I think that manifest in them using their humor to berate themself and as a means of venting without actually asking for help. it helps that most people think theyâre a loser, cause they constantly make themself the butt of the joke. mostly itâs harmless stuff (âlol iâm such an idiot, hereâs a funny story about my latest screw-upâ) but sometimes they take it too far. they probably got sent to the guidance counselor back in school cause new teachers would get worried, but I think the curse of always being seen as the goofy fuckup with habitual self depreciation is that people who get to know them tend to get used to their self hatred and just write it off as fisher being fisher (sally and nick and grayson arenât exempt from this. theyâre all lovely and they all love fisher but theyâre not perfect and I think if anyoneâs gonna step in and actually make them get help itâs gonna be someone with new eyes, like glitch or kent).Â
ok wow downer ending sorry!! they also really like puns and bad dad jokes and physical comedy. anytime fisher or nick hears or comes up with a fucking terrible dad joke they immediately run to the other and tell it. I think if sally and fisher are ever bored in public the two of them just start acting weird and see how long it takes to get stared at. they compete to see who can one up the other before they have to stop out of embarrassment or before theyâre asked to stop (they are SO annoying and insufferable). Fisherâs also a really good story teller and can make the most mundane event funny or entertaining in some way (theyâd be great at standup)Â
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OTP Meme
art by @yesjejunusâ
Do they fight often? If so, what is their dynamic like?
Sort of, theyâve actually calmed down since first knowing each other. It use to be that they hated each other because âfuck you, I want to leave this stupid ass valley why do I need to fetch quest when my survival is maxedâ, and âgoddamnit you made me care about this kid that youre dragging into war I cant live with myself if he dies due to your little game of exterminate the raider tribeâ.
I...am indecisive about how Emilia ends Honest Hearts, but even in the worse case scenario they do become at most tolerant of each other. Still, their arguments is mostly Emi poking and prodding for a reaction, and Joshua feeding right into it. These usually end in him being moody, but he rebounds well enough. Their big arguments though are usually over how things should be handled, in which case both do their own shit and then one has to bail the other out.Â
Who is the most skeptical of the two?
Joshua, hands down. Emilia is so eccentric compared to anything heâs use to, he almost always has something to say about anything she brings up. Even if its sound to him he still questions it if it comes from her mouth. It isnât always voiced, but the eyebrow does raise. Heâs stopped being amazed at her actually accomplishing what she says she will and has started getting annoyed with it...what a show off.
Who would be most likely to suggest a night of dancing?
Emilia, and sheâd dance whether he comes along or not. My Joshua never learned how to dance, but I donât think its his cup of tea either. He hums while he works, though, and Emilia has honed in on that.
What would they do if the other was injured in battle?
Assess the situation and then adjust. I think both would cover each other, though I think Emi is more likely to haul his ass to safety. Thatâs her target, damnit! Unless one was really fucking up patching themselves up, I dont think the other would help with wound dressing though.
How do their fighting styles complement each other?
Complement is a very interesting word here. Their entire schtick is that Emilia is adaptive, dynamic, changing to fit the situation and he is....just headstrong and very determined, haha. They work well together in that she forms to fit his methods and is his fall back if things ever go south. It works out well, some of the time. Other times its Emilia stealing his kills and him getting angry at how fast her draw is.Â
Do they want children? Does it frighten them? How many do they want?
Together? No. He is particularly someone she would be cautious around. In their canon I donât think they sleep together, just because Emilia has Thoughts about a man like that being on top of her, or at least having some kind of mindset about having slept with her.Â
Still, I think my Graham is old enough to realize that kids wouldnât have fit well into his life, Legion existing or not. Both grew up with religious and family pressures to marry and have kids, and neither really felt that it was for them. I think my Graham tried to find a greater purpose than starting a family in Legion, and that was his justification for never trying.
What happened when they took them home to their families? If their families arenât in the picture anymore, how do they feel about it?
Joshua learns about Emiliaâs family and past in a round about sort of way. Camila introduced herself to him, which was a heart attack to Emilia, and heâs seen the photos she keeps in her cigarette case. In honesty, he feels a bit envious at how closely she was able to keep her sister. Though I donât know how I headcanon his blood family situation, I do think that he misses kinship. After Edward, he becomes very lonely, and even reconnecting with New Canaan he feels lost. How does a man his age find another friend that close? Itâs part of why he so easily falls in being war chief again in my canon. Itâs familiar, and its something he knows heâs good at, and that in itself is its own comfort.Â
For Emilia, I think she envies his community. Though she was young when her life started falling apart she still knew what a stable home was, what a loving family was, and what it felt like to feel safe. She knows that even after all the tragedy heâs caused and how much misfortune fell on his tribe that he still has a home to go back to, and that theyâd accept him with open arms. She misses being on the receiving end of that type of love, and most of all she hates being so closed off to people about herself. Even her sister she hides things from, and even then her sister doesnât share her faith. I think if Joshua ever invited her meet his family sheâd accept, even if she thought it would go poorly, just to feel things out and see if she could find some community in there.
How does each person show affection towards the other?
Again, its in the small things. When Emilia springs him from NCR custody, it was for entirely selfish, headhunting reasons, but she brought him bandages and his bible, and those were the small comforts that mattered. Sheâs hard on him in areas that no one else was, like teaching him genuine wilderness survival, or how to be independent. She also tries to get him to slow down and think about what he really cares about. Sure he gets his purpose from being war chief with the Dead Horses, but he truly does miss his tribe. These show themselves in small conversations, but if she didnât care for him she wouldnât even bring them up.
For him, its a bit of the same. He entertains her bullshit, but he also cleans and repairs her weapons. During their end game, Emilia has a robotic prosthetic leg, and he learns how to repair and upkeep it on the fly. He becomes receptive to her teaching (if only for a while), and to humble himself enough for that should speak volumes.Â
Who cries the most? Who is better at comforting?
Neither really cry, though I think Emilia at least doesnât feel pressured to keep face around him. Sharing a religious background and a lot of similar-but-different viewpoints, they actually comfort each other well in a passive sort of way. If their problems donât relate to each other, they can usually talk through their issues. For Emilia, itâs a huge comfort to have someone else religious to talk to. She doesnât often get this with most people, and even if Joshua isnât 100% on the same thought train, the core belief is still there.Â
For Joshua, itâs nice having someone who is also religious but doesnât feel like he has to perform for them. Emilia isnât here to judge him, theyâve both done and do horrible things in their life, and sheâs just different enough that if she says something he doesnât agree with he can dismiss it. Having someone he doesnât have to keep face around is a breath of relief. Its nice to not have any expectations set on you, and although it annoys him a majority of the time, her laid back personality allows him to let his guard down.Â
When it comes down to it though, a lot of what Emilia has already lived through are things that are popping up in Joshuaâs life now, and he often finds reassurance in that sheâs found ways of coping, and that she is willing to talk with him when he needs it.
Who is the bigger flirt?
Emilia, no contest. Making passes at him is a pass time to her. If he didnât have his face covered, sheâd probably see just how hard she could make him blush.Â
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hiya! i love the way you do kin matchups so i would like to request one. danganronpa and its fangames please owo im your friendly neighborhood gremlin with a love for mischief. i like purposefully annoying and pissing people of bc its funny. i used to be a malicious jerk, but have been taking steps to be a better person. despite being extroverted and friendly, i dont get attached to others easily. oh also i love birds and fairgrounds/circuses. thank you, knock yourself out
ooh... haha, you sound really different from a lot of the anons iâve gotten! thank you so much for requesting(and for the compliment ^^;), this was veery fun to plan out! hope you enjoy it :)!
from danganronpa, i first match you with...
kokichi ouma!
just to start off- that owo???? i just??? you mean to tell me that kokichi WOULDNâT use that? starting off, both of you are total gremlins. ingame, i mean, spoilers and whatnot, but kokichi literally runs a gang based around mischief and pranks. the fact that his gang is dedicated to that and only that i feel like is something else you have in common- while kokichi ingame can definitely be malicious, this is likely because, well, itâs a killing game. more specifically, one that basically no one trusts until the first murder happens and everything is suddenly real. iâm not trying to excuse his actions in it, but i feel like if he had that same personality of his outside of the game, there would be less of a need to be so distrustful and harsh towards others- after all, the outside world is intimidating and threatening, but thereâs a lot more places to run to if someone wants to kill you, rather than in one single academy. sorry, i kind of went off on a tangent!
the two of you are rather extroverted, and while heâs not exactly friendly, he has this demeanor that implies that heâs going to be a sweet, adorable little guy. not saying that thatâs you, but you know! the two of you seem very energetic, at least from your typing style, though that may not translate into real life. he loves getting on other peopleâs nerves for his own entertainment, ie kiibo. i would also say that he doesnât get very close to others easily, as we see with both the cast of the killing game. plus, this is more theorising, as kokichi is strongly implied to be an orphan, thatâs also something that causes trust issues/trouble getting close to people in victims of this, as, well, they werenât able to be taught those kinds of bonds. again, iâm not saying that youâre an orphan, but thatâs something the two of you are very likely to have in common. finally, i mean, dice has a clown aesthetic. he definitely likes fairgrounds/circuses.
from danganronpa another, i match you with...
satsuki iranami!
satsuki is definitely one that jumped to my mind right away. quick one, sheâs literally the ultimate clown- she loves circuses! plus, the owo. how can i resist pointing it out. while i wouldnât say she intentionally bothers others for the sake of comedy, itâs more like... a lot of her comedy can come off as annoying occasionally, just because itâs so clownlike,(who wouldâve guessed, haha) which is such a niche art in my opinion. i think both of you are very energetic and extroverted, as well as friendly, but neither of you seem to get particularly attached to the people around you- at the least, satsuki doesnât seem to express it. you both do seem extroverted and friendly, but i think that lack of attachment to people can make you seem insensitive or rude at times, as itâs a bit harder for satsuki to be personal and genuine with someone. i wouldnât be surprised if you share that with her.
satsuki, being a clown, is definitely someone who i think would have a love for mischief- i kind of teeter totter between the headcanon that she can appreciate all kinds of performance and comedy, versus her being like... an entertainment purist that only sees clownery as the valid kind. but regardless, a lot of the circus aesthetic is based around mischief and playing with peopleâs perceptions, so she seems like sheâd have a fondness for mischief too! satsuki also, just from her talking about her inferiority with her siblings, could be someone i see as having more roughness or rudeness thanks to that insecurity. thatâs just a headcanon, as we donât know too much of her past from my knowledge, but it doesnât seem too unlikely. obviously, sheâs a better person now/she always has been the person we see ingame, so we donât know exactly. linuj feed us more satsuki info 2k20
from super danganronpa another 2, i match you with...
hibiki otonokoji!
hibiki and kotoko were really hard for me to pick from between these two, but as you can see, the former won out! hibiki Has The Gremlin EnergyTM, in my eyes, and she does use... the cursed owo. while i wouldnât exactly say hibikiâs one for mischief, she does take on a form of that- her half-jokingly picking on people is what iâd consider to be this. some of these comments do come from malice, as she has her own insecurities that she hasnât quite worked through yet. i definitely donât blame her for having these, and if you relate to her i donât blame you for having them, as there are several good reasons as to why sheâs been held back. however, we see ingame that she does have a lot of potential to grow, like how youâve talked about becoming a better person thatâs less driven by just rudeness. in fact, she can become rather kind to other people- of course, her efforts and growth are cut off, but still...
hibiki does enjoy, at least at the beginning of the game, picking on people and bothering them. iâd say that this is for a mix of both her amusement, and as a defense mechanism. her sister has likely caused her trust issues, which makes it harder for her to really get close to people. after all, we see exactly this ingame. setsuka, and i suppose her sister, are really the only people that sheâs able to trust at first, despite having a cheery and extroverted demeanor. i think that she does have a lot of potential to trust others and be open, but this potential tends to get stifled by her environment. also, finally, we donât really know her thoughts on a lot of her hobbies/interests i donât think? but like, birds sing, and sheâs a vocalist. maybe thereâs a connection there?
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itâs time for minor matchups! however, iâve specially noted hiyoko saionji for someone that youâd remind me of strongly in the past.
otherwise, from danganronpa, you somewhat remind me of kotoko utsugi, genocider syo(not too much of toko), and miu iruma! and also, you remind me a tad of monaca towa. from the danganronpa another series, you remind me of setsuka chiebukuro!
gah,, i feel like that was really long haha. hopefully it was alright, though! please remember that you know best, anon, and that if youâd like anything in this post changed, please let me know! (also, requests are open again!)
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15-25 for ced and alistair!
15. how adventurous are they?
oh, super adventurous. in any way u could possibly take that. out in the world, theyâre both stupid and curious (truly some bimbo/himbo solidarity here) â cedany a little more so, because sheâs obviously not seen much of the world, so sheâll often get distracted by something shiny or interesting in the wilderness and everyone (bar zev and leliana, who couldnât lose her if they tried) has to take a few minutes to try and find her again.
in more, uh, intimate settings, cedanyâs down for basically anything, and alistair wants to learn all he can. theyâre both very careful abt making sure consent is a Big Thing between them, because of cedanyâs unspoken issues there, but as long as theyâre both interested in trying something new, theyâre good. theyâre a little less adventurous once they get back together, âcause theyâre both in their mid-forties and have lived a lot more and have very little time left to be together, since theyâre, yâknow, on their calling, so theyâre more concerned with just having each other, but they stay being horny so props to them i guess
16. do they keep secrets? lie? cheat?
alistair is less prone to secrets â heâs big on honesty â but given that most of cedanyâs are very personal, trauma-based ones, ones she refuses to even acknowledge exist, he doesnât often push for more from her on that front. neither of them are big liars, at least not with each other.
cheating isâ a little more complicated. during his marriage, alistair kinda cheats on gwenore with cedany once or twice, but given that gwenoreâs aware of these dalliances (after the first one, which was a shock) things get a little murky there. thereâs also the issue of him Being Married that means heâs probably Technically cheating on cedany, but itâs, again, super complicated. she also takes other lovers over the years, but theyâre technically broken up for most of those. by the end, though, thereâs none of that. again, theyâre desperate to just have each other again lmao
17. what would make them break up? would it be permanent?
in canon, they break up bcos of the whole âim a king and i cant marry a warden or a mageâ bullshit schtick, but thatâs not permanent. they actually give their relationship a try more than once in the following years, but it just never works out â the timing is bad, or things are too difficult for them, or he has a family and canât bear to disappoint his son. they do eventually reunite for their calling and remember why they loved each other and just say fuck it, letâs be in love before we die
outside of canonâ they might near a breakup when kids became a topic of conversation, but idk. homeboy has that dialogue abt wanting any future at all with the warden, so ???
18. what are their dates like? how long do/did they date? do they ever feel the need to take a break from each other?
they donât rly have âdatesâ. unless like⊠sharing a bowl of stew on a log by the fire together during a night watch and then sneaking off to shag in their tent counts? which is a shame bcos i rly do think alistair would pull out all the fucking stops for that shit â dinner, roses, the whole shebang.
they date technically for only like ??? six or seven months ?? but thereâs a lot of tension leading up to that, and then they have a whole angsty entanglement for literally 25 years after that soâŠâŠ it dont make cents luv x
during those 25 years they need to take breaks from each other all the time, bcos itâs painful to be around each other. but when theyâre together during the blight ? could not pry them away from each other if u tried. theyâre like halves of a whole, as cheesy and disgostang as that is
19. what do they fight about? what are their arguments like? how do they make up?
arguments between these two are loud and often involve cedany turning into a swarm of flies to chase him when her throat gets sore from yelling. theyâve fought abt a lot of shit over the years, too â in the beginning, she was pretty certain he was an actual, certified, mage-killing templar, so she picked on him relentlessly over the pettiest, tiniest things. then things were cool between them when they were dating, and then the messy breakup happened, and then cedany burned amaranthine to the ground and alistair was fucking pissed at her, and then he got married, andâ
yeah. theyâve fought over a lot of stuff. they made up grudgingly in the early days, usually pushed to do it by leliana or wynne, but later on they donât even rly apologise ??? they just kinda act like nothing happened, which is somehow almost worse, but neither of them rly knows how to cut through all the bullshit and hurt surrounding their relationship to be honest with each other
20. what does their home look like? their room?
:((( itâs just their tent during the blight. after that, they never share space again
21. do they share any interests or hobbies?
they share an interest in running at things with war-cries ??? shdkfhsk no they share other interests too; theyâre both funny and like prodding at their companions for entertainment, and they could also both play with max (cedâs mabari) for fucking hours. alistair always lets cedany loop her flower crowns around his head or neck too, like a proper supportive boyfriend
22. does their work ever interfere with the relationship?
does his being king count as work ???? probably. so yes
23. how do they hug? kiss? tease? flirt? comfort?
hoo boy letâs go
hug: long, big bear hugs. like, spine-crushing ones. theyâre both super duper touch-starved, so they sorta cling to each other. sheâll tuck her head into his neck or under his chin, and heâll bury his face in her hair or shoulder or rly anywhere he can reach. they cuddle all the time when theyâre Together together, genuinely
kiss: tentatively, at first, bcos alistair has no idea what heâs doing. after heâs gotten the hang of it, though, itâs usually passionate af â biting, tongues, everything. alistair is usually the one to soften the kisses, because heâs a big oleâ romantic, in which case theyâre that gross couple just pulling back and leaning in to kiss each other again and again. by the end, though, they only have a couple of soft kisses â theyâre mostly desperate, by that point, and theyâre crying during a couple of âem, because whoâs to know but them, right ??
tease: alistair teases clumsily. he once did a strip-tease for cedany and then got stuck inside his own shirt. cedany was laughing so hard she couldnât help him for a good five minutes. cedanyâs much more proficient at teasing him. he hates her for it â heâs always bright red by the time sheâs done
comfort: quietly, surprisingly. neither of them are good at dealing with real, deep, emotions. theyâre both very tactile people, so generally comfort will just involve sitting right beside the other, pressed close, so itâs not technically a hug â bcos cedany especially will never accept comfort outright, for fear of looking weak â but they know the other is there. if one is crying, though, the other will hold them; stroke their hair, their back, that kinda thing
24. any doubts about the relationship?
yea for obvious reasons shdkfhsjkd this is getting so long im just gonna rapid-fire move on u kno theyre messed up
25. how much time do they spend together? do they share their feelings, or hold things in?
in the blight, loads. after, very little. theyâll go years without seeing each other, honestly. alistair tries to share his feelings a couple times over the years but ced shuts that shit down bcos she just CANT. queen of holding things in. ok this is done im sorry emily ily
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its about time i actually started designing the antagonists instead of just daydreaming about where the protags occasionally meet them
i dont generally put warnings here but. some talk of suicide below def. worth the heads up............ the read more is just because its Fucking Long tho lmao
this one has actually been slightly fleshed out in my mind? they dont have a name yet, and its hard to know what Rank they are since ive been moving the story away from violence and A Coming War for a few reasons, most recent one being my friends story (tho they dont know about mine) has gone down the route of having a war at the end.. mostly tho i want to explore telling a good and worthwhile story without a focus on just who can beat up the other team better. The main protag Barren, for example, im bringing down the route of using their visions and ability to see inside peoples minds (in cryptic, symbolic landscapes and stuff) to take down people from the inside out, generally by working through their reasoning and traumas and whatnot to enable them to see clearer and with more empowerment........ and then one protag (Kindle) who joins later knows how to fight, and the third protag (Stardust) keeps them out of trouble, but later reveals that, well, spoilers that have already been seen a million times, hes actually one of the gods who fought in the huge war that happened in the past, and when thats revealed its when he has to fight again but......... he avoids it due to carrying the trauma and issues surrounding that war, as well as his own virulent self doubt and self hatred. so. this character to get back to the point? Wouldve been like a general or something, but im not sure how far I want to take them away from that, maybe to being a high priestex or something? the gods are supremely important to the story, and, spoilers, the main goal of the main antagonist is to bring back the original creator deity of the world, Siirka
I actually have a lot of appreciation for this particular antagonist character, they werent involved with Barrenâs mistreatment when Barren was raised in their city by their masters so..... Theyre very much blinded to whats going on, I guess when youre raised in a city which glorifies what the leaders are doing and you get the chance to work for them, and you havent seen the depths of their evil youre going to work extra hard and...... push little red flags out of your mind............ They were extremely loyal and fully or. Mostly. on board with everything happening that they were told about, and worked super fuckin hard to get to the rank theyre at, always pushing boundaries and training and improving and grasping for any sort of genuine praise and signs theyre doing good that they can get, wanting to do their absolute best for the cause and. be worth something to someone. it gets very obsessive, especially as doubts and red flags start actually encroaching on their goals
As Barren and co start causing more trouble, this characterâs storyline actually develops separate to the protags. Definitely influenced by them and their continuous defying of the antagonists, which doesnt plant seeds in their mind but waters the ones that are there....... They start realising things arent as peachy and golden as everyone was teaching them it was, they realise their betters either dont really know what theyre doing or may have selfish intentions, or, god forbid, intentions that could land everyone in a fucktonne of trouble - basically all the views they were raised on start having major cracks and Plot Holes in them and they have to come to terms with that. They do a lot of inner work struggling both with their crumbling view of reality and with the fight between either breaking it down more or trying to patch it up with lies, the sort of lies that even the person telling them doesnt know are lies. They get more and more frantic, more detached from reality as much as they try to hold on, struggling with their own identity and with dissociation, and with their mental state unravelling under stress and the inversion of what they were taught as right being morally dangerous, and what they were told to hate being morally good, until finally their boss is killed to further the protagâs goals......... before the protagonists can get to him............ by them. and then they end their own life to prevent themselves being tortured and imprisoned by their masters. I had a scene in mind where the protagâs spend a little arc trying to get to him because they need to take him out, and this character knows theyre coming, so the protags finally get to him at night and find him dead with this character standing over him. They get a brief chat before telling the protags to run, that theyll take the blame for it and the protags will get away without being harmed if they go quick enough, and then they step out of the window BUT its very fuckin important that its made clear that theyre left with no choice - or, more importantly, that theyve finally made their own moral choice in life with their own mind and own feelings - that theyre in their right mind/not acting on despair and need to go before theyre captured - both for theirself but also so they cant be interrogated and have no chance to spill that the protags were there. They basically redeem all the bloodshed and indoctrination theyve had a hand in - and oh, i forgot this bit of important context. Because of the whole staying away from violence thing, they do it to redeem themselves, to stop at least their boss spreading anymore shit, partially also to get revenge for all the lies and stuff, but also importantly because they dont want that on the protagâs conscious. They can handle it, and since they intend to die, they will bring it to their own grave. Death happens rarely in the story, because I want it to be as heavy and serious and soul-destroying as it is irl. They do the traumatising act of having to kill someone and live with the blame because theyve already planned out that theyâre going to die to avoid capture.Â
Im really.......... wary of portraying suicide in Siirkaia but given Stardust is heavily implied to be back from the dead (having the god of death, Mercyâs, black hair which only he has, though for most of the story its ambiguous as to whether hes working for or is Mercy ((its neither they were lovers lmao))) and Barren and Kindleâs mother Inferno also killed herself its............... im just gonna have to cave and realise im gonna need to address it. I mean, the protags already show (as being the grandchildren/children of and a suicide victim) that its a fuckin tragedy not a solution to anything, but, look. the story is intricately tied to my own mental health and thats shit ive dealt with for years so its going in the melting pot baybey! Also. as if i will EVER write this....... but i still want however i portray it to make clear that..... its a fuckin tragedy and honestly Not The Right Choice IMO
Basically, as a character theyre very hardworking, very Very ambitious, slightly obsessive, and i guess Unhinged because oh boy i am just giving out free personal issues to these characters huh. Their story is ideally going to be a bit more fleshed out than the other antags, because theyre meant to be a bit of the protags in that side of the story. Theyre like.... a case study in the complex and not black/white concept of redemption. The Demos, the people of the story, are at their core defined by submission and being led to terrible things. They were all originally created by the terrible god of life and chaos Siirka to be entertainment. Siirka had passed by Earth and took a liking to the pain and suffering of humanity, specifically loving the way they scream, and so built a fake Earth out of his own substance/power (in universe his body and hair) that was an unoriginal almost exact copy of Earth with.... absent details, like all the animal species being just identical copies of one example of each species, in all white, and a submissive race that looked like humans so that he could rule over them..... The Demos have since been taken from Siirkaâs reign, since Siirka was banished in a war by Mercy and the trio of Stardust/Moonshine/Midnight (Siirkaia until i change it roughly translating to âSiirkaâs absenceâ/âno Siirkaâ/etc), but its still central to the story of the world that the Demos are susceptible to being taken advantage of - though strangely they arent Super different to humans - and to being oppressed, since thats what they were made to be............. Like, Cool Backstory Bro, but its central to everything, it represents whats happening now both metaphorically and literally, the race thats susceptible to being betrayed and used is now starting to be betrayed and used again. Cycles of abuse continuing, learning the worth of the spirit, thats all the story of Siirkaia. The protags of the story represent the spreading empowerment, thats what Mercy gave to the Demos, the power to choose, to exist, to create your own path........ And this character represents that right to choose. Theyre a flower beginning to bloom in a garden full of frost. Theyre hope, and hope taking root and being received and acted on, showing that even if your actions just help one person they were worthwhile. Of course other Demos receive that enlightenment, but this character represents the hope in the Demos, but also the âgoodâ in the âevilâ, that, while most of the antagonistsâ actions are unforgivable at worst and in no way exempt from criticism at best, theres a reason people are driven to do evil things, and theres a lot of corruption of the mind and personality that happens to drive people to those points. People can act in horrible ways, but its always for a reason, whether its their own trauma or not.... Even âI wanted toâ has heavy implications of reasons behind it. This character is one of the few that did the work to begin to escape the cycles they were born into and its important they have their part in the story be heard
as much as i want them to be understood by everyone, as a schizotypal person i see that most people............ do not even try to Start understand people they find slightly odd, so making them âunderstandably madâ as in showing them show some of the Odd traits of being detached from reality/humanity with the reasons those things come about, and, you know, with the appreciation that its not just âooo crazy random, unpredictable, youll never know what theyll do next!!â its....... actions that just seem different to those who dont do those actions..... Either way, however i push their character in regards to being misunderstood, i really want their end to be understood, or rather. I want them to be understood in the end. Barren can be incredibly empathetic and understanding, id really love for their final moments to be..... mutual? They did what had to be done for things to change and get better, and in the moments where they meet Barren/Kindle/SD, they finally get seen for what they are, they finally get seen as an entity beyond all the lies pushed onto them, a person who was led astray, who had the goodness in their heart and found the strength to multiply it, to try and right their wrongs, who was, although it looks on the outside like they had it all, actually been manipulated and mistreated by their higher ups and used as a pawn so they didnt have to get their hands dirty, they could just pass on the work to someone else. I really want them to, while they cant really be redeemed because of the damage thats been done, have a few moments of actual peace at the end of their story
.............................or maybe they could run away with the main trio lmao but no, that cant........ really happen because of the important dynamics and the personal (as in interpersonal not about me) nature of the protags and also. while i want the Demos to be revived again at the end, they do get swept away into Siirkaâs hair when hes brought back through the big boss of the antags, Ka-UrenKa-, oo spoilers. so. i dont really know if i want to kill a protagonist it seems cheap (the main trio survive because they werent made by siirka........... literally a long fuckin story) because. at current, Siirka being brought back happens out of nowhere, and while the audience technically know its coming should they piece together the symbolism of Barrenâs visions, its supposed to be unexpected and. idk man.Â
anything else? Oh yeah i think they were originally conceptually conceived to Brutus by the Buttress so you fucking KNOW that i couldve skipped ALL this writing just to put that song in but hey. i would say its their theme song but while inspo was taken from theme and lyrics its actually not accurate to their life beyond a few lines?? and also the overall fucking Mood
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Analyzing Social Climb (pt.1)
K, so after finally getting back home and having actual WIFI in here, i decided to watch social climb again in its entirety and express some of my thoughts and observations i guess? Anyways lets go
The video starts with a 10-Second long animation of the bandÂŽs logo, and directly moves over to the visuals of a fancy-looking house. Over it, there is a bit of text and a headline:
                          âthe TELEFOUNDATION presents
                             THOUGHT REFORM
          &THE CORPORATE GUIDE TO SOCIAL RECONDITIONINGâ
Now, letÂŽs try and analyse this :D
What is Telefoundation?
On the internet, i wasnt able to find any mentions of the word, let alone a definition of the word, so i assumed it was the name of a fictional firm in the iDKHOW universe But, i was able to find a similar word, âearly television foundationâ and also a link to something else here: http://www.cftf.org.uk/ if you want to take a look at that. The first one tho, it is a museum âdedicated to the preservation of the technology from the early days of television.â, as directly quoted from their website.
Furthermore, the website says: âOur website's mission is to preserve and make available to the public the history of early television, from the mechanical systems of the 1920s through the introduction of color televsion in the 1950s.â
Aha, so that museum just showcases different TVs from around 1945, howÂŽs that connected to social climb and idkhow? I dont have an idea, but we know that the mv for social climb is a brainwashing propaganda video from 1977, broadcasted over television.
What is Thought Reform?
thought reform is another word for brainwashing used by Robert Jay Lifton, one of the first phsychologists to study both brainwashing and mindcontrol. Lifton was a US-american phsychatrist and author in the 60s. 1970 he was accepted as a teacher at washington school of psychatry. Later, he released his books called âHome from the War: Vietnam Veterans. Neither Victims nor Executioners (1973), and The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocideâ (1986), of which the publishing years bring us near to the time in which the iDKHOW story takes place.
returning back to Žthought reformŽ, Lifton offered 8 steps/methods of manipulating minds. I have copied them off http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversion/lifton_thought_reform.htm for anybody interested:
#1 Milieu control
All communication with outside world is limited, either being strictly filtered or completely cut off. Whether it is a monastery or a behind-closed-doors cult, isolation from the ideas, examples and distractions of the outside world turns the individuals attention to the only remaining form of stimulation, which is the ideology that is being inculcated in them.
This even works at the intrapersonal level, and individuals are discouraged from thinking incorrect thoughts, which may be termed evil, selfish, immoral and so on.
#2 Mystical manipulation
A part of the teaching is that the group has a higher purpose than others outside the group. This may be altruistic, such as saving the world or helping people in need. It may also be selfish, for example that group members will be saved when others outside the group will perish.
All things are then attributed and linked to this higher purpose. Coincidences (which actually may be deliberately engineered) are portrayed as symbolic events. Attention is given to the problems of out-group people and attributed to their not being in the group. Revelations are attributed to spiritual causes.
This association of events is used as evidence that the group truly is special and exclusive.
#3 Confession
Individuals are encouraged to confess past 'sins' (as defined by the group). This creates a tension between the person's actions and their stated belief that the action is bad, particularly if the statement is made publicly. The consistency principle thus leads the person to fully adopt the belief that the sin is bad and to distance themselves from repeating it.
Discussion of inner fears and anxieties, as well as confessing sins is exposing vulnerabilities and requires the person to place trust in the group and hence bond with them. When we bond with others, they become our friends, and we will tend to adopt their beliefs more easily.
This effect may be exaggerated with intense sessions where deep thoughts and feelings are regularly surfaced. This also has the effect of exhausting people, making them more open to suggestion.
#4 Self-sanctification through purity
Individuals are encouraged to constantly push towards an ultimate and unattainable perfection. This may be rewarded with promotion within the group to higher levels, for example by giving them a new status name (acolyte, traveller, master, etc.) or by giving them new authority within the group.
The unattainability of the ultimate perfection is used to induce guilt and show the person to be sinful and hence sustain the requirement for confession and obedience to those higher than them in the groups order of perfection.
Not being perfect may be seen as deserving of punishment, which may be meted out by the higher members of the group or even by the person themselves, who are taught that such atonement and self-flagellation is a valuable method of reaching higher levels of perfection.
#5 Aura of sacred science
The beliefs and regulations of the group are framed as perfect, absolute and non-negotiable. The dogma of the group is presented as scientifically correct or otherwise unquestionable.
Rules and processes are therefore to be followed without question, and any transgression is a sin and hence requires atonement or other forms of punishment, as does consideration of any alternative viewpoints.
#6 Loaded language
New words and language are created to explain the new and profound meanings that have been discovered. Existing words are also hijacked and given new and different meaning.
This is particularly effective due to the way we think a lot though language. The consequence of this is that the person who controls the meaning of words also controls how people think. In this way, black-and-white thinking is embedded in the language, such that wrong-doers are framed as terrible and evil, whilst those who do right (as defined by the group) are perfect and marvellous.
The meaning of words are kept hidden both from the outside world, giving a sense of exclusivity. The meaning of special words may also be revealed in careful illuminatory rituals, where people who are being elevated within the order are given the power of understanding this new language.
#7 Doctrine over person
The importance of the group is elevated over the importance of the individual in all ways. Along with this comes the importance of the the group's ideas and rules over personal beliefs and values.
Past experiences, beliefs and values can all thus be cast as being invalid if they conflict with group rules. In fact this conflict can be used as a reason for confession of sins. Likewise, the beliefs, values and words of those outside the group are equally invalid.
#8 Dispensed existence
There is a very sharp line between the group and the outside world. Insiders are to be saved and elevated, whilst outsiders are doomed to failure and loss (which may be eternal).
Who is an outsider or insider is chosen by the group. Thus, any person within the group may be damned at any time. There are no rights of membership except, perhaps, for the leader.
People who leave the group are singled out as particularly evil, weak, lost or otherwise to be despised or pitied. Rather than being ignored or hidden, they are used as examples of how anyone who leaves will be looked down upon and publicly denigrated.
People thus have a constant fear of being cast out, and consequently work hard to be accepted and not be ejected from the group. Outsiders who try to persuade the person to leave are doubly feared.
Dispensation also goes into all aspects of living within the group. Any and all aspects of existence within the group is subject to scrutiny and control. There is no privacy and, ultimately, no free will.
Most of these methods are intigrated into the social climb music video, showing an elite, almost cult-like group of people most liekly cut off of the rest of the world, etc. i think #3 could also be a reference to the song âmodern day cainâ by iDKHOW, of which (for example) the pre-chorus is:
âSo now you've done a little wrong
And you need to be forgiven
By the Vicar and the company you keep
And then you conjure up a fiction
To get the pretty girl to listenâ
and also the main chorus that is:
âThis is the sin
That I will confess to release myself
From consequence
And everyone can tellâ
in which method #3: Confession is mentioned directly. (Oh boi, i think we gettin to the point now, but after 2 hours just straight out researching and writing the first two explanations/theories i kinda dont know how to formulate the next section. iÂŽll take a short break.)
What is Social Reconditioning?
As i did my research on the internet, the term âsocial conditioningâ seemed to have appeared way more often in results, and doesnÂŽt seem to differ that heavily from social reconditioning, so let me explain it first. Social conditioning is the definition of training someone to behave in a manner that is generally approved from society and/or peer groups in society. âManifestations of social conditioning are vast, but they are generally categorized as social patterns and social structures including nationalism, education, employment, entertainment, popular culture, religion, spirituality and family life. The social structure in which an individual finds him or herself influences and can determine their social actions and responses. â (Wikipedia)
So now that weÂŽve got that figured out, what would Social Reconditioning mean? I myself would explain it as having to adjust from one specific social pattern/structure to another. an example i provide is a soldier coming back home from the war and having to adjust into the general city-life from the strict life in an army. The âcorporate guide to social reconditioningâ is most likely to be a book in the iDKHOW universe abouthow to fit into a generally acepted form of society again. But what other social structure, or rather group of people is it, that one has to recover from?
 This is what i think is worth mentioning in this wikipedia article:
âPropaganda.
Edward Bernays, Freud's nephew and the father of propaganda and public relations, used many of his uncle's theories in order to create new methods in marketing. In Propaganda, he published that "If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without them knowing it".[4] He used the herd theory in order to create public relations, thus conditioning the public to need particular goods from certain manufacturers. In the same publication he stated, "A single factory, potentially capable of supplying a whole continent with its particular product, cannot afford to wait until the public asks for its product; it must maintain constant touch, through advertising and propaganda, with the vast public in order to assure itself the continuous demand which alone will make its costly plant profitable."[4] His theories and applications in social conditioning continue throughout his work. â
In Summary/Conclusion
Social climb is a propaganda/brainwash video
It is from the late 70s (1977 to be exact)
The band iDKHOW is in it, joined by Whiteshadow (the white skull person with the mask), possibly meaning that Bamd has time-traveled into 1977
Social climb is very likely to be referencing Modern Day Cain, and probably MDCs music video
The propagande video might be advertising or warning the public about a cult-like group of elite people
Which are a Illuminati-like organization, if not Illuminati itself
speaking from scenes like the one at 1:19, where the Pattern on the table undoubtedly is a pyramid with an eye in the middle, having the letter i,d,k,h,b,t,f and m in each rectangle in the first row
if i get any more stuff facts about the actual video into this i might as well make a second part out of this
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The First Quest X
Andy attempted to gain some knowledge as to why Maria and Jaxon were no longer on speaking terms, but not many people knew what had happened.
âI donât get it,â Andy huffed, resting his chin on his hand. âThey always fight but this is different.â
âWrench,â Sol held out her hand expectantly and Andy placed the tool in her grip.
âIf anything theyâd have fixed it by now.â He paused in thought for a moment, tapping his fingers against his chin.
âMaybe they just need time apart.â Sol suggested making an unusual attempt at conversation.
âThey hardly touch one another with an eight foot pole. They have plenty of time apart.â Andy laughed. Sol hummed in reply and settled her goggles back on her face. âI mean the bickering gets old but the silence is just...uncomfortable.â
âSome people have odd ways of doing things.â The motor Sol was working on gave a small attempt to start before fizzling out. âCrap. I swore I fixed it.â
âTry jiggling the knobby thing.â Andy pointed at a protrusion on the machine.
âThatâs not what itâs called,â Andy noticed the small smile on her face and couldnât help but sit up a bit taller. She took his advice anyways and sure enough the engine gave a mighty sputter before maintaining a low hum. âYes! Finally!â
âGreat! Now you can put it on the motorized dummy track for the training arena!â Andy hopped up from the stool heâd been sitting on.
âThatâs the plan.â Sol nodded, moving to turn off the device. With a satisfied nod she tugged off her goggles and gloves.
âYou got a little something.â Andy gestured to his own nose indicating the spot where Sol had a fair amount of grease plastered on her face.
âAgain?â With a grunt of frustration Sol used the hem of her shirt to scrub at her face. The grease only smeared further over her nose and cheeks.
âDonât do that!â Andy laughed. âYou got it everywhere!â
âUgh! I hate my life!â Sol huffed.
âSit down. I got this.â Andy offered her the stool. Sitting, Sol watched him curiously until he came back with a squirt bottle, a surprisingly clean rag, and a mirror. âI will be your stylist today. I was trained in the art of beauty!â
With an impish grin Andy did a clumsy spin and struck a pose, spinning the bottle on his finger as if it were a ring of car keys.
âI hate you.â
âI know.â Andy winked. âNow let the master work.â
Sol sat perfectly still as Andy worked at cleaning away the stubborn residue. Sheâd had experiences like this before and her skin was often left red and raw from the rough material. This time, however, it was different. Andy managed to perform the task with ease being surprisingly gentle.
âAaaaaaand, done.â He declared. âTake a look babe.â
Andy held up the mirror for Sol to check her reflection. âNot bad Grace.â
âClean as a whistle.â Andy nodded. âLike I said...Iâm the master.â
âOf dorkiness.â Sol scoffed tossing the dirtied rag at him.
âMy feelings.â Andy feigned offense. âAnyways, we have a game of capture the flag to prepare for.â
âIndeed.â Sol nodded. âI have a feeling this will be very interesting.â
â â â
Indeed it was. Maria and Jaxon were inevitably on the same team once more. Only this time, Grey was left trying to manage the forces.
Maria and Jaxon had both adopted personal agendas and didnât bother to acknowledge the rest of their team.
âOkay, so...Iâm on defense. This is cool.â Andy talked to himself as he paced beside the flag.
âWhatâd you expect? We got our moment of glory last time. The other kids were destined to have a shot.â Sol frowned sitting on a rock and sharpening her blade. âBut the schedule goes Wednesday-Friday for Capture the Flag games. We get another shot soon enough.â
âYeah, but I expected more entertainment.â Andy paused in his pacing to kick a rock into the trees. At first neither of them noticed it but then it became quiet clear.
There was a commotion going on at the center of the battlefield. From the sound of it nearly everyone had stopped to watch. âOkay, I know we have to guard this but-â
âCome on.â Sol was already running in the direction of the noise with Andy following hot on her heels. The two stumbled from the woods to find a very alarming sight.
âOh my Gods theyâre trying to kill each other.â Andy breathed.
Despite being on the same team Jaxon and Maria were locked in a heated duel. Maria had a score to settle and she intended on restoring some of her pride.
Sol was the first to do anything. Being small she managed to worm her way through the gathered crowd. Andy squeezed his way through with a bit more effort.
âI said go to the right.â Jaxon growled.
âWhat I do is not up to you.â Maria replied slashing at him with her sword. Jaxon stepped to the side and lashed out in return. Maria arched her blade behind her back ending the strike. âYou made it quite clear.â
Spinning Maria slashed angrily at Jaxonâs ankles. Leaping he twisted in the air sending a blast of air far more violent than he should have. Maria was knocked to the side, she tumbled a bit, before coming to a rest.
âJaxon what are you doing?!â Andy demanded latching onto his brotherâs arm.
Maria crawled to her feet, rolledher shoulders, and gave a twirl of her sword; a challenge.
âEnough. Both of you.â Grey stepped between the two raging demigods. âKnock it off.â
âStep aside Grey.â Mariaâs voice was full of authority, dripping with the power only a true leader could muster.
âMake me.â The eldest boy raised his chin in defiance.
âSorry.â Maria gave him an apologetic look before charging at Jaxon and using her elbow to nudge Grey aside. Jaxon shoved Andy away, who stumbled back into the crowd of people.
Solâs anger flared up and despite herself her arms ignited in bright orange fire. Jaxon made another strike but Sol deflected the blade and caught hold of the weapon. The blade sizzled before the gold began to melt.
Jaxon looked down in surprise before it dawned on him that Sol was ruining his fatherâs blade. Heâd just gotten it back from Thia via Hermesâ messenger friends: wind nymphs. Now, Sol was melting the gold into a bubbling puddle. On instinct he reacted.
Sol was blasted back into Maria causing both girls to collapse on the ground. There was the sound of a painful snap and a cry of pain.
âWhat is the meaning of this?â The demand came from Chiron who had finally made his way to the commotion.
Jaxon looked with teary eyes at the ruined heirloom in his hand. He had grown up using the blade, dreamed of smiting enemies as dangerous as his father had. It was gone now. Ruined.
Grey knelt beside Sol and Maria. âAre you two alright?â
âUgh, yeah.â Maria mumbled rubbing her head. She glanced over at Sol only to find the young girl crying and nursing her very broken wrist. âOh Gods.â
She wasnât the only one to notice the injury. Greyâs eyes widened and he moved to help her. Andy flew into a rage. He tackled his brother to the ground despite his smaller stature and let his fists fly.
âWhat is wrong with you? Huh?â His fists stung painfully. âYou canât hurt people like that!â
âStop!â Jaxon held his arms up to protect his face. âAndy, stop!â
The younger boy was thrown off with a buck of Jaxonâs hips. Jaxon wrapped his arms around Andy holding him still.
âGet off of me!â Andy yelled, squirming violently.
The commotion ended only when each of the demigods was dragged to the infirmary.
â â â
âI have no idea whatâs gotten into all of you but you need to figure it out.â Jason stood with his arms crossed looking at each of the kids who sat nursing injuries. Grey was the only one completely unscathed.
âYou cannot go around trying to kill each other! Thatâs not okay!â Annabeth who had also been selected to give the lecture pinched the bridge of her nose.
âI didnât do anything.â Andy protested.
âYou pummeled your brother.â Jason glowered. Andy opened his mouth to reply but Jason held up a hand. âAndy Clay Grace, do not argue.â
âSo whatâs the punishment?â Grey asked glumly.
âYouâre all staying here until you sort it out. No leaving or going home.â Jason determined.
âThatâs not fair!â Maria cried.
âSome of you can go home, Grey, Sol. You are both allowed to leave.â Neither of them made a move. âOr you can stay here if you wish.â
âFigure it out.â Annabeth shrugged. âItâs that simple. Thereâs no unity in anything if infighting this bad exists.â
â â â
And so they were left there to solve their problems. Maria selected her own little corner of the infirmary and claimed it her own. Jaxon did the same.
âLet me see it.â Grey knelt in front of the bed Sol sat on and gently took her bandaged wrist. âIt should heal relatively well, maybe a bit of physical therapy will be needed, and no forge for some time.â
âYour dad said all of that already.â Sol mumbled. Sniffling she wiped her nose on her sleeve.
âWell, I learned from the best.â Grey stood and ruffled her hair. âIâll be back. Iâm going to get cleaned up.â
âWas it wrong to punch him?â Sol startled at Andyâs remark. Heâd been so quiet she had hardly noticed him there.
âYeah.â Sol nodded. Andyâs head was bowed and his bottom lip began to tremble.
âI just got mad. I didnât mean to hurt him that bad but-I donât like him when heâs like this.â Andy hardly cried and so Sol was left with a brief moment of surprise. She wasnât sure what to do. Sheâd never been the best at comforting someone.
âHey, donât cry.â Sol gave a light punch to his arm with her good hand. âPeople mess up.â
âYeah, but a good brother doesnât punch his sibling.â Andy sniffled.
âA good brother also doesnât push his sibling.â Sol slung her arm around Andyâs shoulders. He didnât say anything else after resting his head on her shoulder. She let him cry and pretended not to notice for his sake.
â â â
Jaxon sat staring at the deformed blade. He couldnât believe it. He wanted to cry. With an angered grunt he chucked it across the room where it clattered to the floor. âStupid.â
Maria glanced in his direction and felt a tiny amount of sympathy for him. She did know how much the weapon meant to him. âYour dad wonât be mad you know.â
âYeah right.â Jaxon huffed.
âHeâs not that big of an ass.â Maria noted dryly. The conversation ended quickly and the infirmary was bathed in a permanent silence. Slowly the demigods began to drift off to sleep and the silence would remain until the morning.
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