#anti endogenic system

[the-neothtr]

ENDOGENICS STOP TOUCHING OUR BLOG MOMENT

IM SO SERIOUS THIS IS GETTING SO ANNOYING. IF YOU ARE GENUINELY INTERACTING WITH OUR POSTS WHEN WE HAVE SAID NOT TO ON THE POST YOU INTERACT WITH AND ON OUR BLOG A THOUSAND TIMES.

MAYBE, JUST MAYBE YOU SHOULD?? IDK NOT INTERACT??? JESUS CHRIST 😭😭😭😭

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Anyway who's ur fav jester in ur fav medias :33

#🎺 ;; neotheater talks— #aemogai #anti endogenic #ANTI ENDO #anti endogenic system #ENDOGENICS DNI #ENDOS DNI #“pemogai” dni #pemogai dni #HOW MANY TIMES. #how many FUCKING times #DO WE HAVE TO SAY #“ENDOS DNI” #ON OUR BLOG AND ON OUR POSTS #FOR YALL TO FUCKING LISTEN #HOLY SHIT. YALL ARE FUCKING STUPID #🎺 ;; jestie posting

[tombodabombo]

EVERYONE EVERYONE look

THANK YOU THAT'S ALL :D

#bugs #isopods #plural #plural gang #did #did system #plurality #simply plural #endo friendly #system #anti endo #endo system #endo #actuallyplural #endos fuck off #endosfuckoff #endogenic #pro endogenic

[error-page-404]

if u come at me with a "source" on endos that mentions being transgender, tulpa, or even the word sysmed

im not fucking reading ur source

CDD is NOT comparable to being transgender AT ALL

tulpamacy is a CLOSED PRACTICE

and SYSMED IS ONE OF THE MOST TRANSPHOBIC TERMS IVE EVER SEEN AND NO ONE FUCKING LISTENS TO US TRANSGENDERS WHEN WE SAY IT.

you CANNOT BE TRANSPLURAL. thats NOT how disorders work

you CANNOT make the brain randomly start splitting. CDDS develope AS A CHILD

THEYRE A FORM OF PROTECTION. DID IS YOUR BRAIN BEING TOO OVERWHELMED AS A CHILD TO HANDLE TRAUMA THAT IT PUTS UP AMNESIA BARRIERS TO PROTECT ITSELF. NOT SILLY CHARACTERS IN YOUR HEAD.

ALTERS ARE NOT THE ONLY SYMPTOM OF DID.

and even if in the slightest chance you can have alters without amnesia and trauma, it is NOT CDD

reminder that in the dsm5 it literally says "if the symptoms are caused by a religious practice, or reported not caused by trauma, DID should not be diagnosed"

"oh but doctors are studying endos" THATS LIKE 2 DOCTORS COMPARED TO A MILLION OTHER PROFESSIONALS AND RELIABLE SOURCES STATING OTHERWISE. YOUR SOURCE IS BULLSHIT

#did system #anti endo #system #system stuff #endos dni #system things #system protector #traumagenic system #dissociative system #plural system #cdd system #polyfrag system #sysblr #system community #system info #medical info #anti tulpagenic #anti endogenic #endos aren't real #endos do not interact

[a-clucking-system]

its really funny seeing endos and endo supporters saying "youre hurting trauma survivors by being anti endo!"

yeah? im hurting trauma survivors? you mean, the people that claim to not have trauma?

be ASTRONOMICALLY real with yourself

#anti endo #anti willo #anti endogenic #anti willogenic #endos dni #endos do not interact #endos fuck off #endos aren't real #system #did #did system #osdd #did osdd #osddid #osdd system #osdd 1b #syscourse #cw syscourse #even though it shouldnt be syscourse #because you cant be a sys without trauma #its so simple to understand #but endos are too braindead to realize that #like do you think the dsm is a suggestion

[problematicpooch]

endos thinking their whole community is valid for faking a severe trauma disorder is so funny when you consider the creator of the term endogenic is actually a traumagenic system in denial and fucking admits it but follows that up with “yeah but one of my alters said we’re endogenic so erm actually”

god i can’t wait for all the endos to wake up and realise either 1. they’ve been faking a serious disorder or 2. they actually have the disorder and were groomed into believing they don’t (like i was)

#endogenic #anti endo #fuck endos #traumagenic system #actually traumagenic #traumagenic did #traumagenic osdd #did system #actually did #did osdd #osddid #osdd #osdd system #actually osdd

[sysmedsaresexist]

Changing mindsets, from a Real Anti Endo™️

The Release of the (Pro/Endo) Golden Goose

I hope everyone from all sides will give this important, heartfelt post a read.

It's likely something you'll want to be aware of if you have a vested interest in syscourse and the validity of endogenic systems. Please give this a chance.

It's been almost three years since I started my blogs. Wow. I've been on tumblr a hell of a lot longer, but I really wasn't involved in the system community. I started out firm and loud. I probably inadvertently fakeclaimed (I went into this with the rule that I would NOT directly tell anyone they were faking, it was a boundary that I knew would ruin me socially if I crossed it, but I'm sure I probably did without meaning to), I name called and made fun of people and things. I was disrespectful to people. I invaded tags to get my message out there, though I was quick to stop once I realized I was making the tags unusable for the community I claimed to want to protect.

I learned very quickly what was appropriate and what wasn't, what I could get away with and what I couldn't. It started to become a numbers game, influenced by the risk of the post.

I made a lot of friends and a lot of enemies, and I amassed a following of over 2k. More people have come and gone from my little community than I ever thought possible. People made fanart of me, and I cherish those so deeply. I have over 300 asks because I struggle to delete the ones thanking me.

And the more I was thanked, the nicer I got, the more thanks, the nicer I got, rinse and repeat until I had trouble NOT empathizing with pro/endos. The more I was willing to listen, the more legitimate sources I came across that disproved my original ideas about consciousness. The people sharing the sources were more respectful than I thought they'd be. Things were starting to look a bit cloudy.

I talked to my colleagues about how they, as therapists, would handle some of these endos in their practice, and while their belief in the concept varied, kindness and attempts to understand was the consistent answer. When had I lost that kindness and understanding that had driven me to that field to begin with?

Colleagues, yes. For those who don't know, I have a degree in social services and counselling (plus three other degrees). It's why the current situation with the antis turning on me is so funny. I still can't get into the mindset of some of these new anti endos, I just can't imagine justifying that level of cruelty. I had lines that I wouldn't cross, and I didn't think people could be worse than me.

... That might have been a trauma thing, looking back on it.

So I got desperate.

I spoke to the actual doctors who wrote some of these papers all of us are quoting. Everyone was arguing the meaning of the words, so I went directly to the source.

Dr Colin Ross, who wrote about endogenous multiplicity in the 80s. I told him everything-- about plurals, non-traumagenic systems, syscourse, what was being debated, how I and others interpreted his words, and what I wanted to learn.

Was plurality only trauma based?

And back and forth and back and forth we went, with me asking over and over again in different ways, NEEDING to hear that it was.

But I never got that answer. He meant what he meant. He said what he said and he meant it.

That plurality was not only found in the aftermath of trauma.

And I said nothing to anyone because I couldn't reconcile it.

Don't try to read between the lines, I assure you, there isn't some hidden meaning to be found there. I can't share all of the messages because some contained personal information, but my final response will tell you all you need to know.

(It did NOT, in fact, make sense, and it took me three years to "rethink my paper" that endogenic plurality wasn't possible, I did not win that conversation, it was a dying stance that was not supported)

I've been accused of paying too much attention to my follower count, but I can't really help it. It's really scary when you make a post and see a sizeable drop. It means a lot of different things. My posts have less reach and support. I've upset people. I've done something wrong. My community is leaving me.

I'm in a weird spot, where I'm blocked by so much of the pro/endo community that I have nothing to join, and the anti endo community, who I still wholeheartedly support, continues to leave me for -checks smudged writing on hand- being too nice??

Misinformation about DID is a massive problem, and it's why I still consider myself anti endo and support that community. I relate to them in such a way that I'll always gravitate to and empathize with them.

Or at least, that's what I thought.

At this point, though, how can I not be pro/endo when Colin fucking Ross says it's possible?

I've already written about how I'm really struggling with these labels, and I love the people that have stuck around while I struggle to figure this out.

I hurt when I see the people that once supported me leave.

My (online) world is shrinking. Literally.

That's scary.

When you've watched so many turn away, you start to wonder, with every post, where is the line where the rest are going to leave? Is it this post?

I just want to be me, us, we want to laugh at the stupid crap people say, system or not, I want to talk about my disorder, I want to combat misinformation, I want to have productive, fun conversations about ideas and concepts with people who disagree and have different interpretations. I want to play devil's advocate and get people thinking. I want to be able to comment positivity and kindness on any post I see, I want to feel comfortable talking to more people about their ideas. I sympathize with anti endos, I relate to CDD systems, I still firmly believe that CDDs and plurality are different, unrelated concepts.

My priority will always and forever be the CDD community first and foremost.

However, I am a hypocrite. I have gone straight to the horse's mouth and failed. I've seen so much research that I finally get it. I'm grappling with holding on to this conversation with Dr Ross, wondering what harm I could have prevented if I'd gone public with these emails earlier.

Since when has being open to change been a bad thing?

Since when has showing respect to lived experiences been a bad thing?

What am I? What label describes this?

How do I go forward from here?

What are you going to do with this information?

I promise you, hate isn't the way forward.

#syscourse #not syscourse #pro syscourse conversation #anti endo #pro endo #anti plural #pro plural #debunk #endogenic safe #system safe #pro system

[non-dys-sys]

Call me the splitter the way I make that pk; m new

#-ange #anti endos dni #we’re anti radqueer btw #endo safe #pluralgang #plural gang #endogenic safe #endo friendly #inclusive plurality #plural memes #plural stuff #plural system

[system-cypress]

A number of you need to learn this.

#anti endo #actually did #actually osdd #did #dissociative disorder #traumagenic system #osddid #osdd system #syscourse #anti endogenic #mental illness

[the-100-percent]

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#plural #plural stuff #actually plural #plural system #plurality #plural memes #system memes #system #system stuff #endogenic safe #pro endo #endo system #endogenic #endogenic system #endo safe #endo friendly #anti endos fuck off #anti endos dni #anti endo dni #all systems are valid #all systems welcome #fuck anti endos #pluralgang

[ginganthropy]

THE ACTUALLY DISSOCIATIVE TAG IS NOT FOR ENDOS!!

i thought that was common sense!! its like how endos have #pluralgang, traumagenics have #actually dissociative!! RESPECT THIS!!!

#actually dissociative #anti endogenic #anti endo #endos dni #endos do not interact #non traumagenic dni #traumagenic system #actually did #actually traumagenic #dissociative system #system #DID

[cccat-in-a-meat-sack]

By the way, I've seen a lot of discourse on "endogenic" alters, so repeat after me

Your brain splits alters as you need them. That means you can have a completely trauma based alter, and you can also have an alter created to deal with homework, aka an "endogenic" alter. If your system formed from trauma, you are not "traumaendo". You are traumagenic. Full stop.

#endos dni #anti endo #endo neutral #anti endogenic #endo apathetic #endos not for you #this post is not for endos #traumagenic did #did alter #did system #traumagenic system #actually did #did osdd #syscourse? #syscourse #tw syscourse #calico has spots #calico side eyes

[sophieinwonderland]

So while actual researchers were doing an AMA on r/tulpas, anti-endos were complaining about their doctors being pro-endos.

Spoiler: She's not on your side. Your doctor doesn't support your hate. And she has a better understanding of the underlying psychology than you.

Wow!

Imagine the sheer gall to be someone who hasn't graduated high school telling a licensed doctor that they don't have the right to talk about a mental disorder because they're "not a specialist."

To be fair, I would say the behavior in that second post does look to be a bit unprofessional... If I were stupid enough to take anything an anon there says at face value after watching anons to that blog repeatedly lie and grossly misinterpret reality to feed into their victim complexes.

But I just genuinely don't trust that they're repeating those events back accurately.

And it's just so satisfying to watch them realize that their own doctors don't support their bigotry.

So yeah...

Today we learned that Stanford University spent $50k on an fMRI study into tulpa systems that's shown significant differences in the brains of tulpamancers while their tulpas partially possess their limbs, and one of the lead researchers in this project believes interest in this phenomenon to grow.

All while anti-endos continue to complain that their own doctors are pro-endo.

Yes, today is a very good day! 😁

#syscourse #pro endo #pro endogenic #anti endogenic #anti endo #sysblr #multiplicity #plural #plurality #endogenic #systems #system #actually plural #actually a system

[blackgatesys]

no mf you’re not “transDID” or “transOSDD”. if you wanna be plural you can try daemonism or tulpamancy and all that willogenic jazz but ffs stop saying you’re trying to get a dissociative disorder bruh

#anti radshit #anti rq #anti radqueer #anti transid #anti transabled #anti 🍓🌈 #endo safe #pluralgang #endo system #endogenic #mediple system #plurality #actually plural #pro endo #endogenic system #system #traumaendo #tulpamancy #willogenic #daemonism #Black Gate System #Kaer Morhen Collective

[schizogenic-sweethearts]

Just saw a post that was like “I don’t want the future to be plural because that means giving kids more trauma” and then they tagged it pro endo 🤨🤨

“The future is plural” is about radical acceptance of all plurals and living in a world where we’re allowed to exist without being shamed or harassed for it. It has nothing to do with creating more trauma!! Especially because that’s not a requirement for plurality at all!!

#the future is plural #we’re real whether you like it or not!!!!!! #also you can have trauma without being traumagenic!!! (us) #plurality #plural system #pro endo #pro endogenic #endogenic #endo safe #endo friendly #endo positivity #anti endos dni #anti endo dni #sysmeds fuck off #sysmeds dni #tw endophobia

[editedantiendoposts]

Endos are real. They will always be real.

Saying they aren't real won't make them disappear.

#pluralgang #pro endo #endo friendly #plurality #plural community #pro endogenic #endogenic system #endo system #endogenic safe #h8intogr8.txt #anti-endos dni

[the-antithesis-system]

The medicalization of plurality that's ingrained into our brain has caused so many issues for me. Just the implications of that take such a toll every day. The idea that the life I remember living was never real. That none of the memories that shaped me into the person I am were ever real. The symptoms of PTSD I experience for things that never happened to this body (or even anything in the same realm, and no, it's not just repressed), aren't based in reality. People always say "well it's real to you" but that isn't enough. I'm not looking for validation about the way I feel about it or how it affects me. It was real, and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't.

Imagine waking up in a body that isn't yours. You know exactly who you are and where you came from, even if a lot of the details are foggy. But then everyone tells you that your existence is the product of a disorder, of traumas that you have no connection to because you didn't live them. And everything you remember? Didn't happen. It's all just shit your brain created to fill a gap or something, process the trauma (that you have no connection to). And that's honestly the best case scenario, if they're not calling you crazy or delusional.

So shoutout to all the beings with past lives who are constantly being invalidated by the medicalized bullshit of this world. If you say your life was real, we're gonna believe you. If that changes and you realize it was in fact a trauma response, then that's okay, we'll believe you then too. It's rough out there for beings like us, but just know you're not alone in having to put up with this shit.

#mod elsie #mod max #anti endos dni #endo safe #endogenic #plural system #plurality #system stuff #actually plural #pro endo #pluralgang