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vveakfish · 6 months

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do you have any thoughts about the core four whose gender(s) are basically just a trans fruit cocktail that you would like to talk about? because I would love to listen

oh boy DO I !!!

I have So Many thoughts about them Anon, so thank you for giving me an excuse to try and put it into words beyond “Damn, these bitches trans! Good for them.”

Honestly, there are so many different ways to explore these characters genders based on how you choose to interpret their life experiences, and their aesthetic changes, and their relationships with each other. I am of the belief that any of them could be trans in any direction

But, that said, I Do have particular gender headcanons for YJ that i am very fond of, so thats what I’ll be talking about today.

(Small disclaimer. I have not finished all of the comics referenced in this. I am using the information i have to inform these, but you know, i might come back to this post at some point in the future and look at it like “wow, i don’t agree with any of this anymore.” And i think thats okay.

I’m just here to have fun, and i thoroughly enjoy these little guys, and think abt them alot, so enjoy

(also if you dont want to read 4.1k words of blorbo gender analysis, or would like to avoid spoilers for Superboy (1993), Young Justice (1998) & (2019), and Red Robin (2009) in varying degrees of detail, or you just want to see what lables i assigned them, scroll down to the bottom <3))

lets get started.

Bart:

Bart's gender is the most complex, but his thought process about it is also the most simple. I think his view of gender would be very much influenced by the fact that he grew up in VR in the future like…

A body is just an avatar, do what ever the fuck you want with it.

That said, the lil guy has always given me transmasc vibes. These vibes, however, are by no means binary.

He understands that in the 21st century a lot of people do not have his sort of “throw things at the wall and see what sticks” approach to gender, so he’s okay with being put in the box of Boy™. But his gender is a lot more * hand waves vaguely *

Clothes don’t have gender in his eyes, they’re fabric you put on your body. Wear what ever you want forever!

Bart in skirts is something i have seen many people draw/talk about before, and its something i agree with wholeheartedly. He likes hair clips, and like, those loud (actually loud and visually loud) beaded bracelet type things that ravers wear. He like nail polish. He doesn’t grow facial hair, but he wouldn’t care if he did. He’s not on hormones, but he definitely considered it for the bit. “Gotta drink my boy juice” Kind of vibes.

For him gender has Nothing to do with performance, its all about comfort. About wearing what feels right, regardless of whether or not he’s adhering to expectations of masculinity.

Yes, he Will wear that god awful outfit out of the house, haters can die mad

Cassie:

Anon, I need you to understand how much i love early yj98 cass. She is everything to me — her process of coming to terms with herself, and being able to watch her start to feel at home in her own skin. It makes me absolutely feral.

lets see if i can explain why… succinctly

When we first meet her in yj98, her identity as “Wonder Girl” is this sort of amalgamation of What it Means To Be A Hero in her eyes. She has her party city blunt bob wig (Because Diana is who she looks up to), the gloves, leather jacket, goggles combo (that so clearly take inspiration from Kon).

At this point in her life Wonder Girl is not really her. Its very clearly a mask she’s putting on. which is what makes it the perfect avenue for her to explore gender expression without it having to actually be about her gender.

I think the part that specifically makes me feral though is her… we’ll call it admiration of Kon.

The girl is a self proclaimed Superboy stan + theres all the weird not-drama between Cassie and Cissie over wanting attention from Kon. (And i say Not Drama bc its like… Kon flirting with cissie (which like… have you met 90’s Kon?? he flirts with everything that moves) and Cassie being upset that he’s Not flirting with her. and cissie is just along for the ride. She’s not quite as much of a flirt as kon is, but she has her moments)

All of this to say i feel like its impossible to have a conversation about Cassie’s gender without also talking about her experiences with comphet and lesbianism.

At the beginning, Cassie sees Kon — this cocksure, conventionally attractive boy with powers that (at first glance) seem very similar to hers, and felt something about it. And, in the way of teen girls who have been told since grade school that they’re supposed to like boys, Cassie comes to the conclusion that what she feels for Kon must be romantic in nature, right?.

All of this, the jealousy over Kon and Cissie flirting, basing her costume off Superboy’s (intentionally or otherwise), the fact that she wont let her team see her without the wig and goggles at all for so much of yj98. To me it all reads as the tangled mix of undiscovered lesbianism and gender dysphoria that the poor girl simply doesn’t have the words to define yet.

So, then what IS cassie’s deal with gender???

i am so very glad you asked.

She, too, is a transmasc of the nonbinary variety.

I think her relationship to femininity is complex, and ever changing. She doesn’t feel comfortable performing femininity the way the world expects her to, but she is also part Amazon. And i think having a relationship with both Diana and Donna would greatly influence how she felt about femininity as a whole.

The Amazons are strong, their femininity isn’t about beauty, or being soft spoken — it isn’t about Men at all. On Themyscira, to be a Woman is about bravery, honor, skill, and in some ways, divinity. Getting closer with her Amazonian sisters would change her relationship to womanhood immensely.

But it still wouldn’t feel Right. She would be able to see that womanhood can be defined differently, but that wouldn’t change the connotations that womanhood had as she was growing up. She’d never be able to lean into it the way Diana or Donna do — they both grew up only having woman defined as strong and brave and confident. Their experiences are not analogous.

The baggage of growing up a girl under the patriarchy wouldn’t just… vanish because she sees that it Doesn’t have to be that way. In some ways, the knowledge that it didn’t have to be that way could make her dysphoria all that stronger (especially if she hasn’t quite deciphered that dysphoria is what she’s feeling).

but i think there would be a point where two things sharpen into focus for her.

fiirstly she has a big fat crush on cissie king-jones.

and second (which would only come AFTER realizing her feelings for cissie) is that what she feels for Kon is Not the same as what she feels for Ciss.

She didn’t want to be with Kon romantically, she just wanted his gender.

I could see her experimenting with wearing a binder, liking that she can get rid of her boobs if she isn’t feeling them that day.

She already has her short hair, and her leather jacket and jeans, and shes big and buff and strong (because she deserves to be butch!!! okay???).

I still think she would use she/her pronouns, but she wouldn’t be picky ab it (if she gets called sir while at the pizza place, she’s not going to correct them.)

But here’s the kicker — I think leaning hard into her masculinity would be EXACTLY what she needs in order to actually ENJOY expressing femininity again.

When putting on the mask that is ‘womanhood’ becomes something that she can Choose to do, rather than something that is being forced on her, it can be pleasant. Like playing dress up.

She has a new appreciation for it, especially since her friends respect her gender, and she knows at the end of the day, when she takes the makeup, the clothes, and the wig off, underneath it all she’s just her.

(Small addendum re: TT’03 Cassie’s fem phase. I have Many thoughts about this as well, and while they end up in roughly the same place, i exploring her experience with comphet and her decision to dress in a more traditionally feminine in that run is something id like to explore in another post (once i’ve actually read the run too.)

Cissie (bonus):

This one should be shorter than Cassies, mainly because my reasoning for it is much simpler.

YJ'98 (#11)

She lists all these names, all of them feminine except for Fucking Ralph. “One weird phase” she calls it.

To me, Cissie is a transgirl through and through. She has this huge list of femme names she tried on while she tried to find the one that fit best. She mentions ralph in this off handed way, as if its not important, and i think thats just her way of dismissing her deadname as something of little consequence.

(that said, i think there’s lots of fun to be had with transmasc cissie, or tried transing-her-gender and realized it wasn’t for her Cissie. But as a transfemme, tgirl cissie is So important to me <3)

Kon:

other people on here have made posts about Kon’s gender that are much more coherent than this will be, but i’m putting the words down anyway. bear with me.

Kon’s experience with identity (especially in his earlier years) is almost entirely about the external rather than the internal.

Kon has his whole life planned out for him from the moment he opens his eyes. It’s simple really — become Superman.

So you have this freshly hatched teenage boy, saving the world as Superman (not the Only one, but definitely the coolest one (Kon would argue)). All eyes on him, all the time. In some ways, performance is inseparable from who he is. From the very beginning, everything he does is on display.

He starts his life with a Name (Superman), a life path (…again, Superman), and all the confidence of a sixteen year old jock with nothing but wins under his belt. then it all gets taken away.

Turns out Clark ISNT dead, and the world doesn’t need its pint sized superman anymore now that its got the real thing.

enter Superboy

Kon’s entire identity, his whole purpose for being alive, was to step into the shoes of a dead man who is no longer dead. So where does that leave our genetically engineered test tube baby?

lost, and extremely confused.

But he’s good at using his charisma as a shield, and even better at keeping himself busy. His problems aren’t there if he doesn’t have the time to think about them, right?

and i think that’s true about his gender as well.

Similar to Cassie, his discovery and exploration of his gender feels incredibly tied to his sexuality (to me). If you’ve read sb93, you know Kon’s deal with women. He is cute & conventionally attractive & he's like superman with a fashion sense, so of course there are people fawning over him.

And he loves the attention. He likes that people want him, or that they are looking at him. The issue is he doesn’t have the life experience to realize that their reasons for paying attention to him are often very shallow, manipulative, or selfish.

He isn’t treated as a person very often. He’s a brand, a product, a tool, a weapon. He’s arm candy, he’s a photo op, he’s a headline, he’s a paycheck. And it takes him a long time to be able to tell the difference between someone Liking Him & someone Using Him.

For the longest Time, Superboy is all he is. He doesn’t have a name outside of that identity (except for the various pet names the women in his life give him (kid & pup, mainly)).

And even when Clark does give him his real name, Kon-El, its still Attatched to his identity as Superboy.

I dont think that he would really even be able to start dissecting how HE feels about his identity until he’s much older.

Part of this would come from the space to be someone else that gaining a civilian identity would give him. As Superboy, the goal has always been to stand out, to be seen, to shine like the sun.

As Conner Kent, he has to blend in. He doesnt want to draw attention to himself, or the Kents, or Clark. He has to fit in, which was never something he had to do as Kon. And i think it would kind of chafe at him — but he wouldn’t really know why.

I think he’d chalk it up to how different of an experience it is. Not being loud, having to be normal™. And so i think he’d just… continue to play the part. For a while anyway.

And like, part of being Normalest Boy Conner Kent would also involve actively un-queer coding himself for the sake of fitting into the ecosystem of Smallville High. and its like…

Young Justice, as a friend group, is SOOO queerplatonic. The lines between romantic and platonic intimacy are so blurred, and Prior to Kon’s YJ days he he was also like… living with these woman who he had complicated relationships with that also blurred the lines between platonic, romantic, and sexual (…looking at you, Knockout).

So learning where the line is when it comes to how he can acceptably interact with his civilian friends (particularly the boys) would Really open his eyes to just how close he is with Bart and Tim, and how similar his feelings for them are to his feelings for… lets say, Simon Valentine.

But i dont think That is what would actually tip the scale. I think realizing that these feelings for his friends aren’t considered ‘normal’ would make him shove them down deeper. As ‘Conner’ anyway.

from here it could go two ways, right?

Either we get Teen Titans ‘03 t-shirt Kon, who sheds his GNC 90s swag in exchange for adhering closer to traditional (read; boring) masculine gender roles.

or we get a Kon who leans Harder into his punk roots, but its a conscious choice now.

(this isn’t even digging into how he would feel once Jon comes into the picture, because while Kon cares for that boy Deeply, his feelings abt the new kiddo in the family could also be very complicated. But that’s a post for another time.)

Personally i prefer the second one.

Kon has always been a curious kid, i love the way he makes pop culture references, and how he bases his behavior off of 90’s teen tropes that he Most Definitely learned from TV. In his early days this wasn’t done in a research way necessarily, but he Did want to learn what it was like to Be a Teen™, and TV was the easiest way to figure that out.

(and, playing in the space of Kon adaptations, his love of media/pop culture, and just over all thirst for knowledge, are present both in the Reign of the Supermen Movie, and in his iteration during the n52 (which is one of the few things i personally have internalized from reading n52 Superboy/Teen Titans)).

But post gay awakening, i feel liked he’d be interested not just in behaviors, but also the context of them. Digging into punk as a subculture rather than as an aesthetic. Learning about its connections to queerness, and community, and self expression. And i think this would be extremely freeing for him. (especially if this were around the time of Jon becoming Superboy v.3, but again, not the point of this post.)

this all culminates in Kon being like yk? gender just… isnt for me. Like, it takes im a long time to get to this point, but realizing that the path that was set out for him is just one of the potential paths he can take, and while he might not know where this new path will take him, its his, that that matters.

And also like, Because his friends are who they are, he’s seen different versions of queerness, and transness, but i think it would take him a bit to see himself as someone who Isn’t Cis bc like… he doesnt have dysphoria in the traditional sense.

He’s still the beefcake he’s always been, but i think he’d start playing with makeup when he realizes it makes him feel good (he shows up the the cave one day with smudgy eye liner and Cissie is immediately like a) you look so good and b) can i Please do your makeup? (and then she does it, and he looks so pretty, and he gets these weird giddy feelings that he doesn’t realize is gender euphoria until his friends start talking abt gender euphoria)

His uniform starts to get more personalized too, like the designs where he has knee patches, and all his little belts, and stuff. maybe he starts experimenting with showing skin. bc he deserves it

(’its for maximum sun exposure!!!’ is the what he tells clark… he’s not sure if clark bought it or not)

And hey, exploring gender presentation more as Superboy might help him do the same as Conner. Cassie will take him thrifting, he’ll try of a flowy skirt or a sun dress or something and then its Over. Gender euphoria part two, electric boogagloo.

In the end, its about realizing that adhering gender roles (and truthfully, any socially imposed ‘rule’ about self expression) is something he can simply Choose not to do. And i think this freedom would be something that benefits him in his civilian life as well.

His gender is: literally what ever, man.

Tim:

Ok, here’s the thing about Tim and gender, right? I think he’s kind of just comfortable as he is. He’s good at playing the roles he needs to in what ever situation hes thrown into. ‘Robin’ and ‘Tim Drake’ (and even ‘Tim Drake-Wayne’ if you want to split hairs) might be masks he wears, but that doesn’t mean they’re any less him. if that makes sense. like…

Lets look at the differences between Bruce (or Brucie) and Batman for a second. They really are different people. Batman is who bruce is at his core, ‘bruce’ is this sort of liminal space between the cowl and his public persona, and then theres Brucie™, and well, you know how he is. These are personas that Bruce puts on.

With Tim its like he just highlights different aspects of himself when a situation requires it. (oh no, the autistic!Tim head canons are being loud today.) But like, he’s Always been masking. And i think this is something he would look at as like… getting a good grade in adapting. or something. He’s comfortable, all the roles he plays are ones he’s familiar with, and he doesn’t really question who he is outside of who he needs to be.

That is, until Caroline Hill makes an appearance.

I feel that the decision to go undercover as a woman was a wholly practical decision in the moment. It’s what the mission required, and therefore tim stepped up. Its just another mask, right? Surely this wont awaken anything in him…right?

But this is an entirely new mask. And i think it might like… shift the way he looks at/thinks about the other masks he puts on. He was able to step into a role that was very foreign to him, and it Worked. (and he felt pretty, which like… woah, thats a new feeling. and he kinda liked it? file that under ‘thoughts he doesn’t have the bandwidth to process right now.’ Bruce needs him back at the cave! its time to debreif! and he has a biology test tmrw! no time for gender scaries!!!).

I think it would take a while for him to be able to admit it to himself though. Because like… hes Not uncomfortable with his body, but he also keeps thinking about how good he felt dressed up femininely, and how he felt powerful, in a way. That putting on that mask felt just as good as putting on his domino.

Personally, i think itd be funny if instead of coming out right away, Tim doing undercover missions essentially in drag becomes a recurring thing. And i imagine some people give him a hard time. (not in a transphobic way or anything, i just mean like, teasing him fondly or what ever.) (Also, i like to imagine that when cissie Did kons makeup, bart and Tim jumped in there too bc like hey why not, and hoooooo boy, if Tims egg hadn’t cracked before then, it sure would have cracked after.)

The thing about him is, i’m not sure if he’d come to the realization himself. You know, that he would like to present femme sometimes, in a situation that has Nothing to do with a mission.

I could see Tim convincing himself that its a pointless or frivolous desire, which is Why he relegates his time presenting femme to when he can prove that it’s useful.

but i have this image in my mind, right? Of him, taking his makeup and wig off, and hes chatting with whoever is in the room with him (literally anyone else mentioned above… or Dick). And Tim’s just talking about how he wishes he could present this way in situations other than missions.

and the other person in the room is just like… i mean, you literally can.

and hes just like…. shit you’re right. i Can :0

I could probably go further into depth abt this, but i think this just frees him to start playing with gender more as Tim. and start to recognize when he’s feeling more masculine, more feminine, or somewhere in between.

His gender isn’t consistent, its this thing he’s constantly listening to, and trying to understand. but in the mean time, he can paint his face, and wear pretty clothes, or dress like just Some Guy, or be a hedgehog dressed in traffic light colors, or what ever his heart desires.

As far as like… how He describes his gender, i think he’d say something corny like bi^2 (bi of both the sexual and the gendered varieties). Or shrug, handwave, generally give a non-helpful vague description. Or tell who evers asking to buzz off.

(small addendum wrt Kon and Cassie in TT’03. I haven’t read this run yet, so i didn’t really include it in this post. But i Do have thoughts about what might cause the two of them (my gnc besties from my comics books) to lean sooooo hard into traditional gender roles after being So Queercoded in their other appearences. Before i talk abt that though, i want to read the comic. So, that will have to be a post for another time)

ANYWAY, heres that TL;DR i promised.

Bart: NB Transmasc Cassie: NB Lesbian (of the transmasc variety) Kon: Agender Tim: Fluid (bi-gender) + Cissie: Transgirl

Thank you soooooo much for giving me the opporrtunity to ramble abt the silles and how Not Cis i think they are. Love you forever.

#𓆟 #𓆟 | 📨#anon #disclaimer: this all for fun! i love these kiddos & am working on reading more of their comics #And my thoughts here are based on things that i have extrapolated from what they have gone through in canon & how that might influence #their relationships to their own genders #Core Four #Young Just Us #Bart Allen #Cassie Sandsmark #Cissie King Jones #Kon-El #Tim Drake #LOL will Tumblr let me post this now?#(i spent like... 15 minutes futzing with the formatting just for it to go 'srry cant post this hehe'

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cinefairy · 2 years

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I want to talk about instant manifestation and intention !

at the beginning of the week, there was a kpop group concert in France. (LOONA !!! stan them <3)

I bought pit tickets, and to be front row you “had to” camp really early [5 AM 😐 be fr] and get a number btw 1 and 200. <how to spot limiting beliefs : they look stupid>

I never gaf about any of those rules and arrived at the venue at 5 PM (the concert started at 7:30). I just came in with the intention that I was going to be front row w/o any effort and knew that this was the only issue for me, no matter what.

During the concert, I was a bit in the middle but could still see very well (I’m tall !!) and I kept thinking “I’m going to be front row” but not like an obsession and not like “omg why am I not front row NOW” ; but like it was an evidence. Even before, I kept announcing it to everyone and my friends were like “but how ? when there is —limiting belief— and —circumstances that do not matter— ??” I never wavered from the state of mind that I was gonna be front row.

And guess what happened ? an event (someone fainted, we had to make them seek assistance!! dw they’re much better now) made me go from the middle to the front, and I spent the rest of the concert with the moon girls right in front of me !

plus, that’s not it.

right after the concert, there were a meet & greet + picture event. Remember, I only paid for the pit, I did not take a VIP ticket and all that jazz. But, right when the organizers where closing the doors of the venue to keep those who paid for it inside, one of the doors stayed open and I was able to recognize an opportunity. So I had two choices : go see my fav artists or stay outside and let my chance pass.

guess what I choose.

and immediately after I choose to go to the m&g, w/o even worrying about the how, it just happened :

originally, I went inside to pee (true story, my ladder was abt to pass away)

then, while coming out the toilet I saw a friend of mine with their group so I stayed with them

(the enitre venue was CLOSEDT I had literally no way out anyways)

the staff started giving away masks & gloves in preparation for the m&g

I didn’t have the wristband and all, but they didn’t check it when the line moved and when we arrived in front of the moon girls SO

I got to shake hands with LOONA (😭😭😭) AND take a picture with them (AAAAAH I still can’t believe it) w/o having to pay a single dime or have a single VIP ticket.

and what really seals it all for me is :

at the end, the staff distributed photocards and a signed sumn sumn that I didn’t really want

I tried to get one tho bc why not (stream why not by loona lets pump it up)

and because I didn’t truly want it, I did not receive it, even by “forcing it” (I tried to make it seem like I “lost my wristband” that I never had in the first place ; and it was not cutting it for the staff so they just dismissed me)

conclusion /

You are responsible for everything manifesting in your life : the good, the bad and the indifferent. With just one decision, + the acceptance of this decision as a fact for you ; and the deal is set. You don’t need to do anything else. Nothing and no one can get in btw you and your manifestation.

This is further proof that manifestation is instant and that the 4D is the only reality. It takes one single decision in your mind, for it to materialize and for the Universe to bend over backward to make it true for you. The 3D is NAWT your enemy, it is part of YOU (4D = 3D) 😭 I swear manifesting is easy, it’s natural, it’s simple, it’s a lifestyle, it’s part of yourself.

I really want y’all to realize you are already everything you desire to be and manifesting is as simple as thinking “I want something. woop ! thank you [Universe/God/wtv] for giving it to me <3”

you can live in your desired reality constantly and it is not burdensome ! it’s easy and funny I swear ♪(๑ᴖ◡ᴖ๑)♪

YESSSS I LOVE LOONA AND IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!

#ask

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msmorningstaarr · 5 months

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⭐️!

My first director’s cut (I didn’t forgot your request, I’m just trying to update H&H 🥹) and I wanted to talk about my views on the Oberyn I’m building as the story goes on.

Spoiler alert!

I’m under the impression I speak a lot about Melara because yes, I do find her very interesting and complex, because I can realise how full of hypocrisies she is (that’s something for another director’s cut) but since you gave me the chance to choose something, allow me to change my attention from Melara and focus on Oberyn for a moment.

Oberyn is by far my favorite character of asoiaf. He’s not very complex in the original story, but I like the fact that he did so many things during the course of his life I became his stan! The point of my text is talk why I chose to portray him the way I’m doing currently.

Let me point out first that I try my best to describe humans of their times with human emotions and characters are allowed to have feelings, even if negative ones. Oberyn is a very interesting POV to write, because in this beginning he’s dealing and coping with some trauma related to grief and lose Elia, but not in the way we see in the show/book. The emotional incest happening between them is something that goes on for most of their lives, so it’s obvious to me that he would feel it hard and maybe not be mature enough to deal with it. His inner monologues gives us a very clear background that he found Melara to be a mystery and enticing at first sight:

‘Oberyn kissed her lips once more and embraced his betrothed, while she silently cried with guilt. Her mask fell, but no wolf howled at his face, a true lamb she was. Her reaction was odd and a bit annoying, but he did not want her to feel more guilty for something he provoked on her. Still, it felt like it was a small victory with Melara. The wedding prospect was showing to be much more challenging than it seemed to be, but a light on his head made him feel eager to take all her innocence during this marriage.’ (Chapter 3 - A true lamb.)

But everything goes down once he realises she’s nothing sassy or even close to be something that Elia is.

‘Oberyn wanted to try and push his betrothed to the edge once more, although she seemed so frightened it took all the fun of trying it. Oberyn desired for Melara to be like Elia, to dress like her and act like her if it was possible. In his most inner thoughts, she was everything he had left, the closest of Elia he could ever get. On the other hand, Melara was so distant from his sister it enraged him to know he had to marry a girl who only wished to pray from dusk till dawn and rather live in poverty washing the feet of the poor than marrying him.’ (Chapter 5 - I am hers and she is mine.)

As I’m writing it, I can realise how depressed Oberyn really is and how he doesn’t know how to cut this string and let Elia go. He’s always dreaming of her, dressing Melara with Elia’s dresses, grieving the distance between him and Elia. It’s also heartbreaking for him the fact he’s really jealous of Rhaegar being allowed to be with Elia while he’s with Melara. He’s not interested in hiding it because he doesn’t care about consequences and we can also see it when he helps Lynesse escape so he can run away from a marriage prospect. Once he’s trapped, he sees it’s the endgame and that’s when his emotions go all the way.

I noticed a pattern for his behaviour: every time he’s somehow sad or angry or both he does something stupid, like he did last chapter (Dreaming of you.) and how much he compares Elia to Melara in his mind, because he’s always trying to create something to make her more appealing to him so her existence and the sex, which plays a major role in his life, less mechanical and more involving, since he can’t have Elia. So maybe yes (?) he’s trying to not be a scumbag but he’s failing hard, but this is exactly what I’m trying to build for his character arc: a boy turning himself into man and trying to live a life away from grieving and loving someone in a healthy manner.

And is also good to remind that this Oberyn is only 20 years of age and dealing with big emotions for his time. I do think he’s in a dark path and I took away plenty of actions he would take on Melara because there are things that has no turning back BUT keep in mind that he’s not a bad person, he is just in a difficult moment.

#ao3 #asoiaf fanfiction #fanfic asoiaf #game of thrones fanfiction #oberyn martell fanfiction #a song of ice and fire #oberyn martell #martell #oberyn martell x ofc #spoiler alert #holy and heathen #ask prompt #ask games

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rainydaydally · 9 months

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Here in this labyrinth (I’m trapped) Chapter 3

Warnings:

Transphobia T-slur Dysphoria Being outed (obviously) Crying Mentions of homophobia Cussing

“Here. Walking to the front office to sign you out now.” His mom texts him. He lets out a sigh of relief as he reads the text. “Ok. Grabbing my things now.” He texts back. Kyle grabs his items, and gets another text from his mom. “Liane Cartman is here too. Principal Victoria needs to talk with us about something.” “Oh sh*t,” Kyle thinks. “If the principal wants to talk to her, then that means-” and coincidentally his thoughts were interrupted by someone on the loudspeaker saying “Kyle Broflovski to the principal’s office. I repeat, Kyle Broflovski to the Principal’s office.” Kyle sighs, exiting the classroom after hearing a collection of “Ooos” from his classmates.

Kyle opens the door to the principal’s office, with Cartman in one chair and his mom standing behind him, and Kyle’s mom standing behind a chair next to Cartman’s. “Oh god.” Kyle eyerolls when he sees Cartman. “Not this f*cking tr*nny again.” Cartman mumbles, though everyone could hear. “Eric!” Liane scolds.

“Okay, Kyle come in and sit down.” Principal Victoria says. Kyle shuts the door behind him and sits in the empty seat. “So Sheila, Liane, you are probably wondering why you are here. Eric has outed Kyle as a transgender male to the whole school, by taking pictures of his personal diary and putting them everywhere.” Principal Victoria explains, which results in a gasp from Kyle’s mom before she says “That’s terrible!” Liane also reacts, “Oh you poor boy.” She says to Kyle, before saying to Cartman, “Eric, you are in big trouble. You are now grounded for 6 months.” “Principal Victoria! There’s no proof I did that!” Cartman whines. “We have video cameras, you know. We watched the videos from last night of you sneaking in here.” “Jeez, how much of an idiot can you be, not even thinking to have a disguise or something?” Kyle sneers. “I did have one, though! How could you tell it was me?!” Cartman questions angrily. “Probably because you’re the fattest kid in town. No matter what disguise you wear people will know it’s Cartman.” Kyle says, “Kyle…” Principal Victoria sighs. “Eric, you just had a black t-shirt on, we could still see your face.” “No ski masks fit me!” Cartman whines, earning a laugh from Kyle.

“Anyways, I think that Eric deserves suspension for the rest of the week.” She says. “That’s like a vacation! He should be getting in trouble, not rewarded!” Kyle huffs, crossing his arms over his chest. “Okay, how about Eric stays late at school every day the rest of the month,” Cartman shrugs, but Principal Victoria wasn’t finished, “and while he’s here he has to write an essay on whatever topic Mr. Garrison chooses.” Cartman whines, “Mr. Garrison hates me!” A smug look appears on Kyle’s face, “I don’t care what it is, as long as he is upset about it.” He thinks, but he might as well have said it out loud. “Well, Kyle, you can go home now, this must be a very hard day for you.” Principal Victoria says to Kyle, who nods and feels his eyes start to burn. “Thanks for talking with me Sheila and Liane. Cartman, you can go back to class, and you won’t be leaving until 6 PM tonight.” Cartman grunts in response and leaves, and Kyle, Shiela, and Liane follow. Cartman heads the other way down the hall back to class, and the rest walk to the front doors.

“Goodbye, Sheila. See you soon, Kyle!” Liane says, and Kyle just gives her a shy wave as she gets inside her car, and him and his mom get into theirs. Before Kyle knows it, his mother’s arms are around him, tight. “Oh, Bubbie. You are my perfect boy, you know that? Do not listen to what Eric or any other horrible kid says to you.” Kyle feels warmth in his heart as he lets go of the embrace, and pulls his phone out of his pocket, which has been bugging him a while. “Stan; 5 texts. Kenny; 2 texts.” He unlocks his phone and checks Kenny’s first. “Hey dude, I’m so sorry for all this.” “We should have told you Cartman read it, but we were too stupid.” Kyle’s lips quirk up at the last remark, coming up with a good reply. “Yeah, I can tell./HJ” “Wow, so you’re half serious…?” Kenny says. Kyle just says “LMAO” and then checks Stan’s texts.

“I am so sorry Cartman did that you really didn’t deserve to be outed like that, and Kenny and I should have told you and we might’ve been able to stop him, I’m sorry.” “Also I’m always here if you need to talk…” “And I don’t like, see you any differently. Like, you’re still Kyle to me.” “Hey, you’re not at second period, where are you? I can’t find you, I heard you went to the principal’s but ???” “Also, if it’s okay with you I would like to come over.” Kyle responds with, “My mom picked me up early. That’s why I’m not at class. Also, you coming over after school is fine with me (and my mom) if it’s okay with yours.” Stan “likes” the message, and Kyle goes back to talking with his mom about nothing in particular.

“-And then she agreed.” Sheila says as her and Kyle enter the house. “That’s great.” Kyle says, taking his shoes off before walking to the stairs. “I’m gonna go upstairs and shower before Stan comes over.” Kyle says with tired eyes, and walks into his room. He grabs the clothes he wants to change into afterwards and a towel, and heads to the bathroom.

20 minutes later he exits the bathroom, and blow dries his hair. He brushes his hair, puts in hair product and then goes to sit on his bed. He decided not to put his binder back on and to take a break until Stan arrives. He gets under his blankets and puts his comfort playlist on shuffle, and before he knows it, tears are falling from his eyes again. He sniffles, rubbing his wet eyes with the back of his hand. Kyle can feel himself slowly drifting to sleep, so he wakes himself up and texts Stan “Be here at 4:45.” Stan replies with “Ok.” Kyle sets an alarm for 3:30, so he will have 3 hours to nap, and enough time to get woken up and ready before Stan arrives. He turns off his phone, and shuts his red and puffy eyes and slowly drifts to sleep, exhausted from the day he has had.

Kyle’s body jerks awake to the sound of his horrid alarm. He groans, pressing the “Stop” button on his phone, and continuing to lie in his bed. He stays there for a few minutes, opening snaps from people, most with questions like; “are you okay?”, but the occasional few similar to; “lol I can’t believe you’re a girl.” He leaves them all on opened.

He crawls out of his nest of blankets and walks over to his dresser and puts on his binder and a sweatshirt, feeling a bit colder than before. His hair is a bit messy from sleeping on it so he brushes it, it going in all different directions. He goes downstairs and watches TV for a while with some snacks and soda, before the doorbell eventually rings. He hops up from the couch and opens the door, the black haired boy standing there. “Hey, Stan.” Kyle says, but Stan just responds by pulling him into a tight hug. Kyle wraps his arms around Stan too, before they both let go, and Kyle lets Stan inside.

“Let’s go up to my room.” Kyle says, leading Stan up the creaky stairs and up to his bedroom. Stan and Kyle sit down across from eachother on his bed, silence consuming them before Stan finally speaks up. “I’m… still sorry that me and Kenny didn’t tell you. I really didn’t know.” Stan says, looking into Kyle’s eyes as he tucks Kyle’s messy hair behind his ear. “It’s alright Stan. We probably wouldn’t have been able to do anything, anyways.” Kyle shrugs. “I guess you’re right. I hope no one has been a complete *ss to you since you’ve been outed.” Stan says honestly, shifting his sitting position to get more comfortable. “I guess it hasn’t been too bad. I still feel like everyone is watching me, though. It feels like everyone is noticing and singling out my feminine features.” Kyle admits, looking at his hands in his lap. “No, dude. You are perfect.” Stan says softly, quickly realizing what he said could’ve been taken the wrong way. “Uhh… anyways. I want to talk to you about the other things written in your diary.” Kyle sees where Stan is going with this. “The things about me. How you feel depressed when Wendy and I are dating, how you think I’m the ‘prettiest boy ever,’ and… that you love me.” Kyle feels his heart drop. He was so worried about being outed as trans that he forgot about being outed as gay. He had completely forgotten what he had written about how much he loves Stan. “This situation couldn’t get any worse… My life is totally f*cked. Stan is going to hate me- *everyone* is going to hate me.” Kyle thinks to himself, but before Kyle could have that train of thought get worse, Stan grabbed his hands and said something that changed everything.

“I love you, too.”

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wutheringmights · 1 year

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Howdy it's me, the ex-DSMP stan who has a bunch of fanmade DSMP-themed songs that REEK of CTB First one up: https://youtu.be/9stQnuF5QSs Til The End (Re-imagined)

The original version was similar in many ways, but the most notable changes were to the lyrics at this part In the original, the second character sings; "Child, I'm here til the end." Meanwhile in this version, the same character instead sings; "Darling I'm here til the end." The newer version sounds more like the engineer and Wars while the older version gives me more baby Time and Wars vibes. Next up: https://youtu.be/GKXUl7oLEus Oblivion This song makes me think of Wars in either the wagon on his way to the well, or hell maybe even IN Kakariko Well. The song talks a lot about regrets of the past after the singer did some terrible things and landed himself in jail for it and honestly? Wars. Some lyrics that stand out to me: "Now I lay across the dust ridden floor Knowing now that regrets shouldn't be ignored Left to waste, now I see how you must have felt When the world began to change and I followed"

In those days when we'd fight our demons together If we had started over, oh, I wonder Would I be descending through the darkness Through the fire and the rain and the mist? Would the air fail to catch me as I failed to catch you?

Would we have fallen Fallen Into oblivion?"

"Alone in this empty room All I hear now is the ambience of our faded tune How fragile of me to break so easily Fear took the lead Now I'm still falling"

Next up we have; https://youtu.be/Ytd-5KwPTIc Please Don't Make Me Choose

This song isn't as obvious as the others I've listed, but there are certain lyrics that make me think about CTB. I can imagine this song taking place while Time was acting as Wars' secret keeper after he killed Orlanda. I could also see this taking place during the war itself, as Mask sees the relationship between Wars and Spirit fracture, such as this verse; "Oh it’s not too late to go back It’s not late to take it back It’s not too late Don’t turn your back on me"

He sees Wars slowly turning into something more twisted, sees the fracturing brotherhood, and is basically BEGGING Wars to just... stop. Because Wars and Mask had something too, and Spirit is already drawing back, so Wars slowly pulling away from him? The Last God Damn Straw. And, finally; https://youtu.be/N5MmEoqgGQc Play With Dynamite (the reprise of PDMMC)

This song I can see taking place after the group (mostly) reconvenes, with Time trying to pick himself up after everyone has lost a lot of faith in Wars. Hell, this could even take place in the most recent chapter, where Wars is admitting how much he didn't CARE about the child right to Time's place. This following verse fits that very well; "And I wish that we could go back to the days Back you'd hear the words I'd say Back when I was still myself Back when you heard my cries for help And I know there's still a part of me That holds on to what we used to be Before you burned it all to ash I really want that person back" Time thinking back to when he was Mask and how Wars used to be. He wants Wars back to when they were just hanging out at that party, he wanted a brother and instead he got this. Another verse that fits very well;

"Why do I play the part of the fool With such an open heart I already know how this will end I know I'll just get hurt again Know I should listen to my gut But you're just too easy to trust Do I seek comfort in your lies Why do I play with dynamite?"

Time knowing what Wars is like. He's so scared of Wars, and yet he continues to trust him - back at the beginning of LU, during CTB, keeping his secret from everyone else after Orlanda, and now this. He wants to run, he wants to get the others and take them all as far away from Wars as he can, he just wants to know that Wars won't hurt any of them, but he can't. Wars is just too easy to trust, and he isn't sure why he keeps falling into this trap when he knows he'll just get hurt. That's what happened to the engineer, and it's probably going to happen to him too. WHOOOOO, sorry for the long ask, some of the songs that the DSMP fandom has created just STINKS of Call Them Brothers vibes and I just gotta ramble about them to you hhjasa hope you enjoy the songs I will probably find more somehow.

Ooooo these songs slap. Your choices are top notch, and I love the lyrics you picked out for each one. I especially liked "'Til the End" and "Oblivion" (though it seems that I have listened to Oblivion before; I think it was on the playlist you sent me previously?).

Thanks for sending these my way, even when all my knowledge of DSMP is all secondhand. On a side note, I am always amazed at fan songs. Music writing is hard, and I admire anyone who watches a show or gets into a thing and decides that they have to make music about it. Insane energy. I love it.

#i am thinking about the seven birds song from taz too #god what was it called??#okay i googled it it's 7 years / 12 birds #savimatteo2810 #lu ctb #ctb music #ask #me rambling

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fullysowerewolf · 2 years

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Thoughts on The Boys S3 so far

I’m flabbergasted and intrigued. I want next Friday to be here right now.

I’m sorta let down by the opening after Kripke built it up so much in the interviews, but I did enjoy the realization of the Thanus meme.

Uh, Butcher, you’re starting to hallucinate full convos with your worst enemy and dead brother. It is time for a therapist. Also I liked how they built up the decision of Butcher taking the Temp V. With wanting to full out reject it at first, then being tempted via the prior imagine spot with Homelander and Lenny, the first confrontation with Gunpowder, thinking of finally listening to what Hughie and everyone have been trying to tell him about chilling out, to being pushed over the edge into doing it with the news on Neumann being a plant.

Also that V lasted a lot longer than I thought it would. Maybe those rumors/theories about the side effects being potential permanent powers might be true.

Was not expecting Stan Edgar to play such a larger role in the season, especially with the reveal of him being the adopted father of Victoria Neumann.

We finally see Black Noir’s face and hear him talk! And then immediately find out why he never takes off the mask or speaks.

I liked the Kimiko and Frenchie moments and their drama of wanting to be normal but hating themselves and why they choose to side with people they dislike. I wonder when Frenchie will get captured as predicted in the previews? Also sad that Cherie is leaving the show.

The Ryan and Butcher moments were sweet, it saddened me when they had their falling out in the 3rd episode, but I doubt it’s going to stay that way the entire season. And they are definitely going to be diving into Billy’s whole hang-ups regarding his childhood abuse this season. And the Temp V thing will probably play a part in confronting his Supe prejudice as well.

Also Billy deciding to be Santa and giving near everyone presents?? And Ryan is insanely good at stop-motion videos. He should upload that shit on Youtube, he’d get tons of likes.

The drama with MM is pretty hot, I can’t believe they broke up between seasons and for Monique to immediately get with some fucking Homelander fan?!! What were you thinking woman?!! Really interested to see what the full beef between him and Soldier Boy fully is.

I didn’t know how they could make Homelander even worse but they somehow did, he is definitely in full sadism mode this season. That scene with the Deep and the octopus man. Also I fucking hate you Kripke for subjecting me naked Homelander, fuck you.

Also surprise Stormfront and also surprise suicide. From the supposed leaks, I thought Homelander would kill her but she offed herself after finding out Homie wanted nothing to do with her whole Nazi army thing. Also I saw what they did there with the subversion of that famous moment in All Star Superman with Supes and the suicidal girl.

Supersonic was actually a pretty nice guy, but he is definitely dying by the end of the season. He has that air written all over him. And we got swerved on the love triangle plotline between him, Starlight, and Hughie it seems, because instead we have..

Homelight unfortunately confirmed, which means those connected rumors about Butcher x Maeve are definitely happening. Hughie is going to go Ballistic when he finds out, to where Billy’s not even going to need to convince him to take Temp V.

Interested to see where Hughie’s arc goes this season, now that his attempt to get clean was destroyed and he’s forced back into the violent methods. Especially with the drama surrounding Starlight and their relationship. They might end up on the outs again by the end of the season in contrast with how they started out in s3.

Didn’t get much of Soldier Boy, but they had me really thinking for a moment that he was a gay pedo but that apparently was just rumors in show. Waiting until the next episodes come out till I can fully get a gauge on him.

Absolutely despised the young Starlight flashback and is a another reminders of why child pageants should be destroyed.

Oh and Teddy Stilwell is back and has powers. Why does it not surprise me that Stilwell injected her own baby with super drugs?

All in all, for the first 3 episodes it’s mostly setup for the season and character exploration rather a full deep dive into action and gore. There’s some fights that are more scuffles and some gore, but nothing really major. So bit of a slow start for those wanting to see big super fights. But still fun to watch if you’re invested in the characters and story.

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Im one of your fans! Ive been following your blog recently and your thoughts on some things about jonsa and Lyanna are really fascinating. Im glad I found like minded person in the community. Really tired of seeing Rhaegar was a rapist rhetoric in the fandom. Can you tell me how you feel about Jon in the show or link me to one youve made before?

Hi, anon! Thanks for the ask!

Thank you so much for that? Hmmmmm. How do I feel about show Jon? I feel ill.🤣🤣🤣 Someone like him isn't worthy of Sansa Stark. At all. That's why I'm against jonsa happening in the Jon Snow sequel. I think Jon and Dany will have a sexual fling until he betrays her so show and books still have some intersection. There is just no conceivable way for Jon Snow to fall for Dany if villain Dany is on the cards imo. What would that make Jon? It's regressing him to Sansa who fell for Joffrey. He ignored Dany's red flags because what? She's beautiful and saved him?

A whole day with her prince! She gazed at Joffrey worshipfully. He was so gallant, she thought. The way he had rescued her from Ser Ilyn and the Hound, why, it was almost like the songs, like the time Serwyn of the Mirror Shield saved the Princess Daeryssa from the giants, or Prince Aemon the Dragonknight championing Queen Naerys's honor against evil Ser Morgil's slanders.

Yeah. So did Joffrey. This reminds me of that Aegony gifset of Dany on a dragon calling her a warrior princess.😭😭😭😭😭😭

Once she had loved Prince Joffrey with all her heart, and admired and trusted his mother, the queen. They had repaid that love and trust with her father's head. Sansa would never make that mistake again.

Sansa's delusions about beautiful monsters was repaid by Ned's head. In the show, Jon admired and trusted the beautiful Queen Dany with all his heart but was repaid by the deaths of thousands in KL.At least Sansa was only 11 but what pray in hell is Jon's excuse?

"But what about her bringing her army and dragons?" Stannis also saved Jon when he came with his army yet we know that Jon has reservations against him, Mel and even Val. Let's not even start with Stannis hypocrisy as if him going to the Wall was his choice when there's no other place for him since losing Blackwater. Stannis also framed it as his duty but core is he still wants the Iron Throne and add Shireen to the mix. Oh boy. Dany's not gonna save the realm out of the goodness of her heart. Lmao. Tell me one thing that cost her that's not in line with her quest for the IT and doesn't benefit her? She dons the savior persona as long as it comes with the IT but when the greater good is Jon ruling then fuck Jon and the people of KL. Break the wheel as long as she's on top. She made sacrifices in "Jon's war" and expected people to lick her feet. 🤡🤡🤡 Newsflash Dany: You're not the only one who brought something to the table. She should have stayed in Essos at least the NK wouldn't have a dragon.😅😅

Requited Aegony only works if both of them are heroes because truthfully, what's not to love? I think that the show made it seem like Jon was really in love with Dany because otherwise there will be more hell if it turns out he was in love with another the whole time. It's just consolation for Dany fans whose turn is set in stone. Those writers did not leave room for Dany being an accidental villain like stans so badly want to happen. Oh no, they removed any room for doubt how Dany was always the hypcorite whose greed for the IT was masked as her duty as the last Targ. It all went to hell when she refused Jon and demanded him to live a lie. She didn't give up the throne for Jon, her supposed love and rightful King. Words and wind, anon. I say supposed bc I don't think Dany truly loved him. It was such a cheap love when compared with the IT. PolJon would even this out. They both choose their one true love in the end. 😮‍💨😮‍💨 Jonsa and PolJon are gonna save Dark Dany I tell you.

#sherlokiness ask #ice and fire boy and nothing so sweet #anti-aegony

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marshmellowtea · 1 year

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For the ask thing: 1, 2, and 13 for any fandoms you like

oughdglkf oh boy let's gooo

1. the character everyone gets wrong

i feel like there's a lot of characters i could potentially put here but the one i can say the most about currently is actor mark from who killed markiplier because WOO BOY the annoying ass takes i see about my boy 😭 look, you don't have to like him, but so many people are wayyy too quick to paint him as a straight villain who's only motivation is to be malicious when canonically, he's motivated largely by pain and literally being preyed upon by a malicious entity that feeds off of negative emotions. yeah, sure, by the damien animation he's gone all egomaniacal disney villain, but he absolutely did not start out that way, let's not forget that those first few suicide attempts were genuine for fuck's sake. also, this is more personal interpretation that could potentially be disputed, but i feel like portraying him as an abusive partner to celine is also misinterpretation—you don't have to be an abusive partner to be a bad partner to someone, and nothing about the way the two of them interact gives me the vibes he was abusive to her, a lot of her rage at him in damien seemed to be based in what he did in wkm rather than being about their relationship in general. also, we know at least part of the reason why celine ran off with the colonel was the house itself unsettling her, not just her relationship to actor. it just feels symptomatic of the "oversimplified villain" characterization everyone gives him and it makes me feel Tired lol. in the same vein i feel like everyone takes the "everyone loves me i am a god" shtick far too literally, i really feel like it's a mask for a boatload of insecurity (cuz, like, can we remember that basically everyone in his life basically abandoned him or at least seemed to have and the way those feelings were 100% exacerbated by the house?? pretty sure the man would have issues, just saying).

2. a compelling argument for why your fave would never top or bottom

i....hm, i actually don't know if i have one of these aglkdjsf. LIKE don't get me wrong i do have strong opinions about this sort of thing for some of my faves but they're less "here's solid evidence for why this blorbo would be a bottom" and more "i would like to top them please. please let me top them”. actually you know what, that's my argument, my faves are bottoms because i want to top them :) that's all i need right—

13. worst blorboficiation

OOF okay i have a couple actually fitting to start off with this one since it is succession season four time but i do really dislike the way a lot of rome girls talk about him, like, the constant claims that he's the only one who loves his family or the only one who has a heart......fucking please lmao. like, don't get me wrong, i love woobifying the billionaires (kendall and shiv can do no wrong in my eyes and when they do i love them anyway <3) but the way that rome stans frequently mischaracterize his siblings as more malicious than they are or treat his abuse from logan as more valid than the abuse any of his siblings face drives me up the fucking wall, you can fuck allllll the way off with that nonsense lmao. i don't hate him but the way the fandom talks about him make him kinda put a bad taste in my mouth when i see him onscreen now, lol. also, not to shift back to who killed markiplier, but little meow meow darkiplier who's actually been the hero this whole time! and is the only one who genuinely loves and cares about y/n! is so fucking boring. SORRY. i know this is 100% part me being an actor stan and thus Biased but both of them are so much more complicated and morally gray than the fandom gives them credit for and i am soooo fucking sick of it </3 put the manipulation back in the darkiplier or so help me god i will do something drastic!!

[choose violence ask game here]

#i meant to post this earlier but i forgor lol #it’s been a day :’)#anyway. genuinely do not know wtf to tag this #so #ask to tag #marshy gets asks #long post

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I don't get the Marinette Antis or most of them.

They claim that Marinette's the worst person on the show... But also say "If Marinette gave Chloe another chance after EVERYTHING she put her through, Chloe could've had the greatest redemption arc EVER!"

So they want who they think believe is the worst person, to reward an actual bad person for doing the bare minimum with super powers AFTER almost killing a bunch of people with said powers?!

My brain hurts!

I didn't make this, this and this post for nothing...

To most people Marinette is only worthy in if she takes care of other characters and if any other makes a mistake too it counts as Marinette's mistake. It's not even the show that makes it like this, it's this crazy fandom. But also Chloé stans can be so ignorant sometimes that it's hard to take them seriously so I stopped taking them seriously. I honestly didn't even consider that Miracle Queen will earn Marinette salt when I watched it for the first time, because the girl suffered A LOT in that finale, but it still did.

Apparently rough childhood is a good reason to team up with a terrorist. The same way people keep defending Félix. What Chloé and Félix and also Lila do is their choice. Marinette didn't tell them to choose to destroy the world with a terrorist, they knew what they were doing. Sorry for mentioning these two but I wanted to compare her to them for Chloé's character:

Lila didn't just help Hawk Moth because she was angry with Marinette/Ladybug (which was also a dumb selfish reason), Lila also teamed up with Gabriel to keep an eye on Adrien. Marinette gave Lila chance too. Lila agreed on both terrorism and abuse of her "crush". This is not just a rival of Marinette, this a messed up girl on a whole new level.

Félix knows what Gabriel is capable of and he knows what he's doing to his son yet he still let him win. Have in mind that Félix wanted to betray them all along, it's not just sentimonsters being sent into the sun, he had this plan all along. If Ladybug didn't sent sentimonsters into the sun he would still do it. Maybe that's why I ship him and Lila so much, they are literally the same person.

Chloé mostly did it for her social status. She never stopped bullying her classmates while being Queen Bee, she thought wearing a costume is enough to make her a hero - it's not. If Chloé was this quick to turn to Hawk Moth that means that her loyalty to Ladybug has never existed in the first place. People salt on Adrien for giving up his miraculous but imagine if THIS is what Chloé did instead of imprisoning the guardian. This just a proof that she wanted to be in the focus somehow and when she got kicked out of one team she went to the other one. Now she wants to make sure Adrien doesn't end up with Marinette more than anything because she has nothing now. She can still change tho and I would support her if she does but she has a long way to go and she has to actually try more. Even if she doesn't change completely which is not always possible I would love to see her try and I would support her. Chloé doesn't need a reward nor punishment, she got punished for it by never being Queen Bee again and Adrien ending their friendship, what Chloé needs now is to realize she was wrong and try to become a better person. Being a good person means not asking for anything in return, which is opposite of what Chloé did. She wanted fame, she wanted a reward. She wanted people to know who she is under that mask and love her.

That's why for betrayal you only blame the person who betrayed you. If they didn't like you they should've just break up with you and move on with whoever they want. When someone cheats on you with this other person it's not about this third person at all, they would cheat on you with others too, believe me. Chloé could've just walk out but she chose the hard way. And she keeps talking about how Ladybug failed her while being mean to everyone, which only further proves that Chloé wanted power, not a real friendship. It's not even Hawk Moth's fault that she did this, she was given a choice. When Marinette fails or when someone let her down she either turns the other cheek or she change her strategy, she doesn't blame it on anyone else. Chloé had to deal with consequences unlike Lila and Félix but Chloé also didn't regret her decision like these two.

I love how Chloé's character is written, you know? After so much analysing I STILL find new details and I'm so amazed by how deep her character is and how it divided the fandom but I hate how most people don't understand her. Yes, I sympathise with her sometimes, yes, I understand why she did what she did, no, I wouldn't do the same and, no, I can't blame anyone because she is the only one to blame here for her actions.

#miraculous ladybug #chloé bourgeois #ml analysis #Chloé analysis #Chloé salt #Ml fandom salt #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #Marinette deserves better #Lila salt #Félix salt #Ml ask #ask and answer #Ml miracle queen

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sebstanaddict · 2 years

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Always You

Chapter 10 - Locked Out of Heaven

Summary : A love story chronicling the love and life of Sebastian Stan and Female!Reader. Inspired by Sebastian Stan's recent love life.

In this chapter we continue where we left off in 2021 when y/n was surprised by the visit of her and Sebastian's friends.

Pairings : Sebastian Stan x Female!Reader

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Warning : fluff, smut

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Brooklyn, New York - November 2021

Never in a million years y/n thought she would one day spend an afternoon being pampered as if she was in a spa by her own friend. Right after she had let Edward and Shannon came into her apartment, Sebastian had given her a call. He asked her whether she wanted to have dinner with him that night, to which she of course immediately said yes. However, since they couldn't risk being seen by the public if they went out, Sebastian had the idea to brought the whole romantic dinner experience to her home. He asked Shannon to help give y/n a spa treatment before helping her to dress up, and he requested Edward to help with preparing the food and setting the tables. Sebastian himself was unfortunately still filming for the movie Sharper. He was scheduled to finish by 5pm though. He promised to come by 7pm, 8pm at most if filming took a longer time to finish.

It was 6pm when Shannon finally finished giving y/n the whole spa treatment. She gave y/n a facial, full body scrub, and a hair mask treatment. Y/n's whole room smelled like jasmine as they used that scent for all of the beauty products they have used for the spa experience. Y/n sat in front of her dressing table, feeling relaxed and slightly sleepy after receiving all the treatments.

"I think we should choose your dress first before we start putting on make up and style your hair." Shannon stated.

"Alright, that makes sense." y/n agreed.

Shannon picked up five dresses that were put on the hanger in y/n's wardrobe. Sebastian had bought five designer dresses for y/n to choose from. She would've been satisfied with just one. But as she had learned in the past couple of days, Sebastian loved spoiling her by buying her things. Despite feeling slightly uncomfortable about it, she learned to accept and just be happy about it. She rarely had anyone spoil her rotten, not even her father. She didn't come from a wealthy family, so her parents couldn't really spoil her with material things. They did spoil her with love and affection though. One of the reasons why she turned out to be a generous and kind person. Always thinking about others before herself.

Shannon laid all of the dresses on the bed next to each other. They all had different colors and style. The colors ranged from the classic black, fiery red, to soft pastel. As for the styles, they ranged from sexy strapless dress, modern one shoulder dress, elegant princess dress to comfortable wrap dress. Y/n loved them all. She didn't know how she could choose. After studying them more closely there was one dress she particularly loved most. It was a champagne colored knee length dress made from chiffon horizontal pleats. It was sleeveless and had silver sequined accent around the shoulders and heart shaped neck line.

"I love it." y/n stated as she looked at herself in the mirror after putting on the dress. She turned herself in front of the mirror to look at the dress from several angles. She was satisfied with how it made her look. The dress hugged her body perfectly, showing off her curves in the right places without being too much. She felt elegant, classy and sexy at the same time wearing the dress.

"Okay, cool. Now we need to choose the shoes to go with it." Shannon picked up five shoe boxes from the floor and put them down next to y/n. She then opened all of them. The shoes were as varied as the dresses. From black peep toe style, simple red stilettos, to comfortable pastel wedges. But from the color alone y/n knew which one would go well with her dress. She picked a champagne slink back heel shoes with open toes and straps beaded with swarovski crystals.

"I think this is the one." Y/n commented, picking up the champagne shoes.

"Okay, cool. I love what you've picked. It's so you." Shannon commented.

"Thanks Shannon. I guess Seb really knows me." Y/n said.

"How could he not. He's been pining after you for 20 years." Shannon snickered.

"Has he really?" Y/n asked doubtfully.

"I called it from the very beginning..you just weren't listening to me." Shannon said, feeling a little annoyed at how blind y/n could be.

"I guess you did.. I just think it was impossible for someone like him to like me, you know." Y/n commented while closing all the other shoe boxes and put them to the side.

"Stop saying that y/n. He's just a regular human being who happens to be hot and is a movie star. It doesn't make him better than you. And don't ever say again he's out of your league. I mean, have you seen yourself in the mirror, girl? Come on.. you're gorgeous and you should start believing in that." Shannon said, giving y/n a stern look.

Y/n smiled. "Okay okay, no need to be so stern about it Shannon."

"I'm serious..say it with me.. I'm beautiful, I'm gorgeous and any man is lucky to have me." Shannon demanded while guiding y/n to the front of the full body mirror behind the door of her wardrobe.

"I'm beautiful, I'm gorgeous and any man is lucky to have me..." Y/n said slowly while staring at herself in the mirror.

"Where's the energy, the belief? I don't hear it. Come on say it again y/n." Shannon demanded.

"I'm beautiful, I'm gorgeous and any man is lucky to have me..." Y/n said, louder this time.

"I still don't hear it y/n.." Shannon protested.

Y/n giggled and said "I'm beautiful, I'm gorgeous and any man is lucky to have me...!" She shouted.

They both laughed. "Good.. that's what I need to hear. Now let's start on your hair and make up. He's supposed to be here in an hour."

"Okay, let's do this." y/n said, taking a seat in front of her dressing table.

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Sebastian arrived at y/n's apartment a little after 7 pm. Thankfully filming was finished right on schedule so he had time to go back to his apartment to take a shower and put on a nice outfit. He walked towards y/n's door with a spring in his step. He was certain y/n would accept to be in a relationship with him with how she reacted the past couple of days. He stopped in front of her door, switched his left hand to hold the red rose bouquet he had brought for y/n and knocked with his right hand. Moments later Edward opened the door.

"Hey Edward." Sebastian smiled and gave Edward a quick hug and went inside.

"Hey Seb, she's still in her room, still getting ready." Edward commented as he closed the door.

"Okay." Sebastian's eyes widened as he saw the table setting and decor in y/n's apartment that Edward had set up.

"I didn't know you have talent for decorating." Sebastian said, turning around and admiring the whole romantic atmosphere Edward had successfully set up.

"Ah well, I had help. All I had to do was follow the guidance I was given." Edward said humbly.

"Who helped you?" Sebastian asked curiously.

"Nina of course." Edward said, referring to his wife.

"Ah of course." Sebastian said.

"Where do you think I should put this?" Sebastian asked, holding up the bouquet of red roses to Edward.

"Here, let me put it in a vase." Edward said, taking the bouquet off Sebastian's hand.

Sebastian went to the karaoke system set up near the TV table. He decided to set up the music to accompany the dinner while he waited for y/n to come out. He picked various romantic songs from many different eras. Along with an Elvis song he also picked a Richard Marx song, Peter Cetera song, The Corrs song, even two Bruno Mars songs. Satisfied with his pick, he pressed play and the first song started playing on speaker with a video of it shown on the TV. He had picked Only You by Elvis Presley for the first song.

"Hey Seb, do you want me to teach you how to serve the food?" Edward asked.

"Oh yeah, I forgot about that." Sebastian clapped his head.

Edward had ordered a 4 course meal from a fine dining restaurant in Manhattan. He offered to serve them for Sebastian and y/n, turning him into a sort of waiter for their dinner. But Sebastian declined. He wanted to serve the meal himself. Besides, they would need some privacy. They went to the kitchen where several take out boxes had been set up on the pantry.

"Okay, so you've asked for a 4 course meal, right?" Edward said.

"Right." Sebastian nodded.

"Here's the first one." Edward opened a take out box revealing the appetizer, a butternut squash ravioli with burnt butter sauce.

"Just put the raviolis on the plate and pour the sauce on it." Edward said, gesturing towards a small clip bag filled with a light brown sauce.

"Okay." Sebastian said.

"Second one is the salad." Edward opened another box filled with baby kale greens, asian pears, grapes, candied walnuts and gorgonzola.

"I'm sure you know how to serve this. The dressing is this one." Edward said, picking up a small plastic bottle filled with honey vinaigrette.

"Yeah of course." Sebastian commented.

"Okay, the main course is this one." Edward opened two boxes. One filled with balsamic glazed lamb chops and the other one consisted of white bean puree.

"Spoon the puree first on the plate then put the lamb chop on top. Then you can drizzle it with this brown sauce and sprinkle some chopped herbs." Edward picked up a bottle of brown sauce and a plastic clip filled with chopped herbs and showed it to Sebastian.

"Right. I understand." Sebastian said.

"Okay. Last one is dessert." Edward turned towards the refrigerator and opened it. He picked out a white honey yoghurt panna cotta still in its mold, and a bowl filled with sliced blood oranges.

"So it's a honey yogurt panna cotta with blood orange slices and sauce. Once you're ready to serve just flip the panna cotta on a plate and put the blood orange slices on the side or around it, it's up to you, then pour the sauce on the side of it." Edward picked up a plastic bottle from the refrigerator filled with blood orange sauce and showed it to Sebastian.

"Alright, I get it. Where are the plates by the way?" Sebastian asked, looking around.

"Oh yeah, I've put them all on the table setting." Edward said.

"Right. Maybe it's better to put them on the pantry, for easier access." Sebastian suggested.

"Okay, maybe I'll leave one plate on the table just so the decor isn't ruined." Edward said as he walked to the table to pick up the plates.

"What about the drinks?" Sebastian asked.

"I've prepared your favorite red wine. It's there on the table." Edward gestured towards the dinner table area.

"Okay. Great! Thank you so much Edward for doing this for me and y/n." Sebastian said gratefully.

"No problem, Seb. I'm really happy you two are finally getting together. It's about time." Edward said.

"Yeah. I know. Took us twenty years.." Sebastian said in disbelief. He reminisced about all the times he almost told his feelings to y/n but wasn't successful. How broken his heart was. But patience really paid off in the end, he thought.

Sebastian was looking down studying the food on the pantry when he felt Edward nudged him on the elbow.

"What?" Sebastian asked, turning his head to Edward. Edward didn't say anything but just gestured his head towards y/n's room.

Sebastian's jaw dropped when he saw y/n coming out of her room. He didn't remember ever seeing her looking so beautiful and radiant. She wore the first dress he had chosen for her, the champagne knee length dress he felt would fit her the most. He was right, the dress seemed to be made just for her. She also had worn the champagne shoes with swarovski crystals he had chosen to be worn with the dress. Her wavy hair was styled with a half up half down style. Her hair fell down in soft waves on her shoulder and several tendrils of hair framed her beautiful face. Shannon had put on natural make up on y/n, accentuating her features perfectly without going over the top.

Y/n looked across the room to where Sebastian was standing and felt her heart rate go up. Sebastian looked very handsome wearing a long sleeved black buttoned up shirt and black trousers. His hair was parted on the side and brushed smoothly. He was staring at her with love and adoration, making her blush.

Ripping her gaze away from Sebastian, y/n looked around her apartment and her jaw dropped. Edward had set up the perfect decor for a romantic dinner. Her coffee table had been moved to the side and in place of it Edward had put a square table covered with white satin tablecloth. On top of it were placed two tall red candles and small white candles in the middle. The candles were lit up, giving a soft romantic light on the table. Elegant plates and silverware were set up on opposite ends, as well as two tall wine glasses. Rose petals were strewn all over the table, giving a romantic feel to the table setting. He also had set up two chairs on opposite ends of the table. The chairs were decorated with large red tulle bows, with the bows sitting pretty on the back of the chairs. Most of the lights in the room had been turned off except those on the pantry, leaving the apartment dark safe from the numerous candles put all around the apartment. Bouquets of flowers were put throughout her apartment, she could see them on the bookcase Sebastian bought her, on the coffee table, on the window sill, on the corners, even on the kitchen counter. Curiously she could also smell something like roses. Apparently Edward had turned on an essential oil diffuser on the corner of the room and put in rose essential oils in them. She could also listen to love songs in the background, which she was sure was set up by Sebastian as it was an 80s ballad that was playing. It was a feast for all five senses. Y/n couldn't help but feel awed by the amount of work Edward had put into the decor and the amount of effort Sebastian had put into the whole thing.

Sebastian walked over to her and took her right hand then gave it a kiss, making y/n blush yet again.

"Hi.." he said, smiling at her.

"Hi.." she answered shyly, smiling back at him.

"You look beautiful." Sebastian said huskily, making her shiver. "The necklace and earrings look good on you."

Y/n wore Sebastian's gift from Tiffany & Co, the gold chain necklace and heart shaped diamond pendant as well as the heart shaped diamond earrings. They fit her whole look perfectly.

"Thank you. A rich millionaire bought them for me." she said teasingly.

Sebastian laughed. "Should I be jealous?"

"Well.. maybe you should. He also bought me a large TV, karaoke system, and a bookcase complete with hundreds of new released books. It's tough competition there." she continued to tease him.

Sebastian continued to laugh.

"Hey Seb, y/n, I think it's time for us to go." Edward said as he saw Shannon came out of y/n's room. Shannon was cleaning and tidying up y/n's room when y/n went out of her room, and she was done.

"Thank you guys so much." Sebastian said.

"No problem, Seb. Happy to do it." Edward winked.

Shannon approached them and give them both a hug.

"Have fun you guys. You both deserve it so much." she said.

"Thank you Shannon, thank you for everything." y/n said, smiling at her.

After Edward and Shannon left they continued standing in front of the romantic table setting, staring at each other, not sure how to proceed. In all the years they had known each other they had never felt more nervous with each other. Finally Sebastian broke the silence.

"Shall we?" he beckoned y/n to take a seat. He pulled one of the chairs out and y/n took a seat. He then walked across the table and sat on the second seat.

"So, would you like some wine?" Sebastian asked.

"Sure, I'd love to." y/n smiled.

Sebastian took the bottle of wine from the chiller, opened it effortlessly and poured it to two tall glasses on the table.

"Cheers." he said, picking up his glass to toast.

"Cheers." y/n said, clinking her glass to his.

"Mmm.. this is good." y/n said, feeling slightly more relaxed as the wine entered her system.

"So, how was your day?" Sebastian asked, putting his glass down.

"It was great! I finished reading Mindful Moments." y/n responded, referring to the Deepak Chopra book Sebastian bought her.

"Wow..that's great. How is it? Is it good?" Sebastian asked, his interest piqued.

"Yes, it is a very inspiring read. It might really be helpful for when we do meditations." y/n answered. She then continued explaining the book to Sebastian. Quoting it here and there. Her eyes lit up while she was talking. This is one of the things Sebastian loved about y/n. Her love of books and how she could remember sentences and phrases in a book she had read in perfect detail even if she just read a book once. Her voice was also mesmerizing. He could spend hours listening to her just talk.

They continued chatting lightly about their day while eating. Sebastian told y/n more about the movie he was filming and how it was to work with Julianne Moore, his costar in the movie. While y/n told him about her work and the books she had just recently read. They were eating the main course when y/n finally had the courage to ask Sebastian about the picture Ana posted earlier that day. She had been wanting to ask about it but was waiting for the correct timing.

"So, is Ana still staying at your apartment?" y/n asked, trying to sound like she didn't care much about it even though she actually was.

"No she's not." Sebastian answered.

"Oh, is she back in Spain?" y/n asked, her heart rate went up as she strangely felt hopeful she would be back in Spain.

"No, she's still in NYC. She's now staying at her friend's place." Sebastian answered while finishing his lamb chop.

"Oh okay. Can I ask you something?" y/n continued.

"Of course." Sebastian said, putting his knife and fork down and looked at y/n intently.

"I saw the picture of you that she posted earlier today. Is that recent?" y/n asked carefully.

"Oh that.. no, that's an old picture. It was taken a couple of days after she had just arrived in NYC. Before my dad died." he answered.

"Oh okay." she breathed a sigh of relief. She knew she wasn't officially dating Sebastian yet. But she couldn't help feeling hurt if they really went out last night after all the things Sebastian had done for her that week.

"She made it seem like it was recent." she commented.

Sebastian sighed. "You know that's what she does. She baits. I saw that picture that's why I posted a story afterwards, when I was in the car going to set."

"Well, that ruined her narrative then. She wanted it to seem like it was recent right?"

"Yes, that's why I did it. I hate it when she baits. But I guess that's part of the job in order to sell the relationship. I was just so sick of it. I wish it's over soon." he sighed and reached out to touch y/n's hand.

"I really want us to be together y/n. Like, properly, you know. Not like this, hiding out here for our first date because we can't be seen in public. It breaks my heart. Because you deserve the best." he said, staring at her sadly.

"Oh Seb, I don't mind not going out. I mean, having dinner here instead of out there is perfect! We don't have to pay for transport. We don't have to meet other people." she winked.

Sebastian laughed. "You're right. It is perfect. It literally is just the two of us."

"Yes, and I love everything you've done. The dress, the shoes, the decor, the food, the music, the pampering. I mean, this is the best first date I've ever had, Seb. Thank you so much." she smiled brightly at him. Sebastian can't help but smiled back.

"You're very welcome y/n. I'm so happy you like it." he said, squeezing her hand.

"I love it." she said, squeezing his hand back.

Sebastian stood up and leaned over the table to give her a quick kiss, surprising y/n.

"I love you." he said, breaking the kiss and sitting back down.

"I love you, Seb." she said, blushing furiously as she didn't expect him to kiss her so suddenly.

After they finished eating the main course, they moved on to have dessert. Sebastian had no problem plating the ravioli, salad and lamb chop. But he found a little problem with the panna cotta, no matter how hard he tried, it wouldn't budge out of its mold.

"Seb, do you need my help?" y/n asked when she noticed Sebastian took a little longer to serve the dessert.

"Umm..yeah..I can't get the panna cotta out from its mold." he said.

Y/n stood up from her seat and walked to the pantry. She took the panna cotta from his hand and tapped the mold, then she put a plate on top of it and turned it over. She shook the mold slowly expecting the panna cotta to slide out but it was still stuck, much to her dismay.

"Weird.. " she said.

"Let's just eat it straight out of the mold." Sebastian suggested.

"Wait.. let me try it one more time." y/n requested.

"Okay." Sebastian responded.

She picked up the panna cotta mold, let it hover on top of the plate and hit on it hard. It successfully slid out from its mold but it didn't fall on the plate like y/n intended, instead it fell onto the floor into a heap of mess.

"Oh no.." she said in dismay. "I'm sorry.." she said, looking up to see Sebastian trying to hold back laughter.

"Oh.. don't laugh at me Seb. At least "I" got it out." she huffed.

"You sure did." he chuckled as he went down to clean the panna cotta from the floor.

"There's another one, let's just eat it from its mold. We can share." Sebastian suggested as he finished cleaning up the floor.

"Yeah, good idea." y/n agreed.

They went back to the table bringing the lone panna cotta which was still in its mold, the bowl of blood orange pieces as well as the blood orange sauce. They put some of the blood orange pieces on top of the panna cotta and poured the sauce on top.

"Okay, so how do we do this?" y/n asked, referring on how they should split the panna cotta.

"Here, let me." Sebastian took a spoon of the panna cotta and brought it to y/n's mouth. She was slightly shocked but opened her mouth anyway. She ate the panna cotta and licked her lips. It was delicious, she didn't expect it to be that good as she rarely ate blood oranges. She then noticed Sebastian swallowed hard as he watched her lick her lips. He licked his lips as well, making y/n's insides go crazy. She suddenly remembered the first and last time Sebastian ever fed her. It happened 5 years ago but it felt like yesterday. She remembered how it made her feel, and that feeling came back to her in full force.

Heart pounding, she picked up her spoon, took a spoonful of the panna cotta and brought it to Sebastian's mouth. "Your turn." she said nervously, her hand shook a little as she waited for his response.

Sebastian's eyes widened but he recovered quickly and ate the panna cotta y/n gave him.

"It's good.." he said after swallowing the panna cotta, his voice turned a little hoarse.

"Yeah, I didn't expect it to be this good." y/n commented.

They continued feeding each other the panna cotta, savouring the feeling of being fed by each other. Eyes studying each other's lips and mouths. Their minds wander to the sinful things they could do to each other, making the atmosphere thick with desire and tension. Several moments passed and they finally finished the panna cotta.

"Well, that was really delicious." y/n commented. "Thank you so much for the delicious dinner, Seb." she smiled, trying to break the tension between them.

"You're very welcome y/n." Sebastian smiled, feeling the tension leaving his body.

"So, since this is our first date and you said you wanted to do karaoke on our first date, shall we?" Sebastian asked, extending his hand to y/n.

"I'd love to." y/n smiled, accepting his hand and stood up.

They spent the next hour singing and belting their favorite songs. They also danced sometimes if the song was upbeat, swaying their hips and moving their hands and feet, twirling each other on the cramped space in front the TV, bumping to furnitures in the process, laughing and giggling all the way.

'Cause you make me feel like I've been locked out of heaven

For too long, for too long

Yeah, you make me feel like I've been locked out of heaven

For too long, for too long

Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah

Can I just stay here?

Spend the rest of my days here?

Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah

Can I just stay here?

Spend the rest of my days here?

Sebastian belted out the upbeat song Locked Out of Heaven by Bruno Mars as he held y/n's hand while y/n giggled and danced, jumping up and down, twirling in his hands. As the song finished, he went down on his knees, surprising y/n and said.

"What would you say y/n? Can I just stay here? Spend the rest of my days here.. with you?" he looked up at y/n expectantly, feeling slightly nervous.

Y/n's heart beat very fast. She already knew what she was going to say, but she needed one last assurance from him, ever the self conscious girl that she was. She pulled Sebastian's hand up, getting him off the floor and pulled him closer. She looked up at him and slowly asked.

"Before I answer, can I ask you something?" holding his hands in both her hands tightly.

"Of course, anything for you sweetheart." Sebastian answered, his heart beating fast in his rib cage, his hands sweating, being so nervous as he awaited her response.

"Please don't hate me for asking you this.. but.. here's a hypotethical question. If by some miracle, Maggie or Leila walked in through that door and asked you to come back to be with them, would you? Would you choose them or me?" y/n asked carefully.

Sebastian's eyes widened in surprise. He didn't expect her to be asking him that. But he understood that y/n needed to know how much he loved her. She needed the confidence that Sebastian would always choose her over everyone else. Something he had always done even if she didn't know it.

"Y/n.. it's you.. I choose you. I chose you back then, and I choose you now. Always." he said, gazing at her with love and adoration, making y/n's knees weak.

"Wait.. what do you mean you chose me back then?" y/n asked, just realizing what he was saying and wondering what he meant by it.

Sebastian told her all about his break up with Maggie and Leila. He never told her the details back then. When she asked why he and Maggie or Leila broke up he just gave her a general answer. She never pushed him about it, knowing it might be a too sensitive subject to talk about, despite them being so close. But tonight he spilled all the details. How in each occurrence it was always y/n that he chose. That it was her that caused him to break up with Leila and Maggie.

"It's always you y/n.. it has always been you." Sebastian said softly almost whispering to her. He put his hand on the side of her face, brushing her cheek gently with his thumb. His cerulean eyes gazed at her with love and longing from behind his long and beautiful lashes.

Y/n's heart beat wildly in her chest. She didn't expect Sebastian to be that much in love with her, she was so happy and overwhelmed. Feeling so loved and elated she reached up and pulled Sebastian closer by the back of his neck and kissed him feverishly. Sebastian kissed her back, putting his hands around y/n and pulled her up, hugging her and kissing her like she was his lifeline.

Kissing Sebastian felt so right to y/n, like it has always felt. She remembered the feeling of it the first time they kissed during spin the bottle game. It felt like it was meant to be. She finally understood it now.

Sebastian broke the kiss and put y/n down. He put his hands around her waist, his eyes burning with desire and he said breathlessly. "Y/n.. I love you.. I love you so much.."

"I love you too Seb.." y/n said, looking at him with desire in her eyes too.

"I want to make love to you y/n.. would you let me.. please?" Sebastian asked with a low voice, his beautiful eyes full of hope and longing.

Y/n blushed and smiled, she was speechless. Sebastian was so sweet. She never had any guy asked for her permission before. She nodded slowly, her eyes never left his. Sebastian smiled widely and scrunched his nose. He was so cute and endearing, her heart swelled looking at him.

Warning: smut ahead

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Sebastian took y/n's hand and guide her towards her room. Y/n's heart beat faster with each step. She couldn't believe it was finally happening. All the daydreams she had ever had about him since the day they met were about to be realized. She felt like she wanted to scream.

He opened the door to her room and they both gasped. They found the room to be decorated as well. There were rose petals shaped like a big heart in the middle of the bed. The lights were off except from the desk lamp located on the night stand. There were numerous candles lit throughout her room. An essential oil diffuser were diffusing rose essential oil in the corner of her room.

"Did you ask Shannon to do this?" y/n asked, stepping inside her room.

"No, I didn't. This was all her doing." Sebastian laughed, shaking his head in disbelief.

"Oh I love her." y/n stated.

"Me too! She has been supporting us from the very beginning." Sebastian said while pulling y/n closer to the bed.

"I feel like we're on our honeymoon or something." y/n giggled, stopping as they reached the edge of the bed.

Sebastian laughed. "Sweetheart, if we ever really go on a honeymoon I'll make sure it'll top what you've gotten today." he winked, making y/n blush.

"You look so pretty when you blush." Sebastian complimented her. He cupped her face with his hands and leaned closer. Closing the gap he kissed her so slowly, taking his time to savor the feeling and taste of her lips.

Y/n felt like her heart was about to explode. He was so gentle and loving, something she never experienced with other men before. He broke the kiss and whispered to her ear.

"You're all I ever want y/n.." he then kissed her softly behind her ears, sending shivers down her spine. He planted soft kisses along the side of her neck making y/n squirm in pleasure. As he continued peppering kisses on her neck, his hands went behind her back and he slowly pulled the zipper of her dress down. He stopped kissing her and put his hands on her shoulders, taking the dress off as he caressed her shoulders gently. Her dress fell down to the floor in a heap, leaving her only in her lacy bra and panties. Sebastian stood back, admiring her body, biting his lip.

"Y/n..you're so gorgeous. You have no idea how many times I imagined this." he stated huskily, making y/n's knees weak.

He went down on his knees and picked her leg up. He took both her shoes off and took the dress and set them to the side while y/n just stood there, speechless, her heart beating wildly. He looked up at her, gave her a smile and he started kissing her right down from her toe, up to her shin, her knee then the insides of her thigh, making her squirm again. He continued kissing her while his hands caressed her sides. He kissed her on her panty covered privates, up to her navel, her upper stomach, the valley between her breasts, her throat, along her neck and finally he kissed her on the lips again. Y/n kissed him back hungrily, her blood burnt with desire. She started unbuttoning his shirt from the top down and with Sebastian's help his shirt was finally off. Y/n caressed his chiseled body, from his shoulder down to his bicep and to his broad back, all the while kissing him with fervor.

Breaking the kiss, Sebastian laid y/n gently on the bed. He went down and took off his shoes, then he took his pants and underwear off. His manhood popped out, already hard and ready. Y/n bit her lip looking at it and admiring it. Wondering how it could fit inside her.

He then went on top of her and kissed her again, harder and with more urgency this time. His hand fumbled with her bra. Y/n arched her back so he could take the clasp off and he did just that with one try. After pulling the bra off her he paused for a moment, staring at her breasts with admiration.

"You're so beautiful y/n.." he said huskily, making butterflies flutter in her stomach. He licked his lips and without hesitation he went down and started to lick her left nipples while his hand stroked her right nipples, stroking it around, pulling and pinching it, making her squirm and weak as the sensation connected downwards to her private parts, making her involuntarily buck her hips. Her hands stroked his beautiful fluffy hair and went down to stroke his back, and her nails dug into his back as his expert ministrations on her breasts made her want to explode. She wondered if she could come just by him doing this. But her thought was interrupted as he pulled her panties off and he touched her "there". His fingers went inside her and found her so wet and drenched.

He stopped licking her nipples and said "You're so wet sweetheart.. and it's just for me.. you're so perfect.." She blushed as he said that.

He pulled his fingers out from her and slowly went down, planting kisses on her stomach, her navel, and he stopped in front of her privates and inhaled her scent.

"You smell good." he stated, looking up at her with a twinkle in his eyes. Y/n bit her lip expectantly, knowing what was coming next, her heart beating wildly.

Seeing y/n bite her lip seductively spurred him into action. He opened her legs wide and started licking her folds. Y/n moaned hard as he started to eat her, licking her, sucking her. He put his focus on the small pebble on top of her folds, knowing how it would make her react. She put her hands on his head, pushing him in and her hips bucked as she chased the peak of pleasure. She moaned and whimpered, so weak and helpless under his expert ministrations.

"Seb..I can't hold it anymore.. I'm gonna explode.." she said breathlessly.

"Go on sweetheart, cum for me.." Sebastian said, encouraging her.

His words were her undoing. She finally unraveled, her body shook with pleasure. A small laugh escaped her and she giggled as the whole sensation washed through her like a wave. Sebastian went up to her and laid on her side. His left hand on her side, propping himself up. He watched her face intently as she was still reeling from the effects he gave her.

"You're so beautiful when you cum.. and your laugh.. that is so cute." he smiled as he brushed her cheek gently with his thumb. Y/n blushed as he said it. Looking at her pretty face spurred him into action again.

"Sweetheart, I'm going to go inside you now, okay?" he said gently. Y/n just nodded. She was speechless that Sebastian still asked her permission despite her having agreed for him to make love to her previously. He was such a gentleman, she thought.

Sebastian put his hands on her sides, trapping her between his hands and leaned down to kiss her, letting her get a taste of herself. He then broke the kiss and opened her legs wide. He took his hardened length which was already red and angry, and shining with a little pre-cum on its tip, and stroked it a little. Y/n bit her lip nervously, she wondered if he was going to fit.

"Don't worry sweetheart, I'm going in slow, I don't want to hurt you." he said as if he could read her mind.

He put himself at her entrance and slowly put himself in. She expected it to hurt but it didn't. The more he got into her the more she felt connected with him. Until finally he completely put himself in her and she felt everything clicked into place. He was the one for her. The only man who could complete her. He gazed at her with his beautiful blue eyes, giving her a loving and adoring look glazed over with lust.

"You complete me y/n.." he said in a low voice, making her shiver. He then kissed her gently and started to move slowly. She moved with him, working with him as they chased the peak together, eyes never leaving each other. Her legs circled around his waist tight as he kept moving harder and harder. Her hands caressing his hair, his shoulders, his bicep and back. She dug her nails on his back as she got closer to the peak. She moaned repeatedly making him feel like he was going to explode. The combination of all of the sensations almost unravel him, but he held it in, wanting for her to reach her second peak before he could unravel himself.

"Seb.. oh Seb.. I'm gonna cum again.." y/n said breathlessly.

"Go on sweetheart, cum for me.." Sebastian responded, his voice hoarse, his heart beating fast as he himself was going to go over the edge.

She clenched him tight as the second peak washed over her. He watched her moaning and writhing underneath him, he felt her hot and tight around his length. He couldn't hold it in again and finally he let go. He fell over the edge, spilling all of his spend in her, hugging her tight, moaning and grunting like an animal.

She giggled and laughed as the peak sensation washed over her. She pulled him to her and he put his head on top of her shoulder, feeling weak and spent. He stayed inside her for awhile, enjoying every inch of their bodies touching each other. He then pulled his head from her shoulder and looked down at her, making y/n's heart beat faster.

"I love you y/n.. I love you so much.." he said softly. His beautiful cerulean eyes gazed at her with pure love and adoration.

"I love you too Seb.. so much.." she said, putting her hand on the side of his handsome face, stroking his cheek gently with her thumb.

He leaned down and kissed her gently, pouring all of his love for her into the kiss. He vowed he would never leave her. She was the one for him. His only love. The only one who could make him feel like he was locked out of heaven before he met her.

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Chapter 11 >

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mc-lukanette · 3 years

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do you have any lukanette ideas with chat/adrien salt? the newest episode reignited my annoyance towards him and his stans acting like he didn’t do anything wrong is not helping. i mean, flirting with ladybug while he’s dating kagami? getting excited over a possible akumatization?? and since i know that behavior won’t be addressed bc adrien is “perfect” and “the love square is endgame” therefore he gets a pass for any bad behavior, i was hoping for some fanmade salt (and lukanette is always a great addition to any story)

I can appreciate how starved you guys are to hear me salt on this blog.

But yeah, I came up with something considering that quite a bit of Chat’s behavior happens before Truth appears in “Lies.”

So hear me out--

Truth is a threat, considering that Luka is the only hero outside of Ladybug intended to be a planner. All others take orders directly from Ladybug herself, but Viperion could plan on his own.

This means that Truth realizes quickly that his strategy of asking for the heroes’ identities isn’t going to work because they’ll shout over him every time. He has to get creative and comes up with the idea to divide the heroes.

He comments on their teamwork, perhaps saying vaguely about how their teamwork can’t outmatch his and Pharo’s. Chat obviously takes the bait, talking on and on about how he and Ladybug are the best team and that they’re made for each other.

“Really?” Truth asks casually. “You’ve never done anything against her?”

Chat Noir responds, his white lips moving to say, “Of course I have!”

Ladybug gapes, and Chat looks calm for a second before his eyes immediately widen in panic.

He tries to say that it’s not what he means, but Truth’s power is active, so he just blurts out, “That’s exactly what I mean!”

He tries to cover his mouth with his non-Cataclysm hand, but gets shot by Pharo.

“I told Theo Barbot that we were dating and it got him akumatized!”

“You did what?!” Ladybug asks, having never heard this before.

Chat doesn’t stop - he can’t - and his mouth keeps moving. He admits that he sacrifices himself because he knows it won’t matter since Ladybug will fix it, and it means he’ll always leave an impression on her. He admits that he didn’t care when Nadja or Alya were egging on the LadyNoir ship because he feels like Ladybug will come around eventually. He admits that he doesn’t take her seriously when she goes off on him because “she’s cute when she’s angry.” He admits that he wanted an akuma to happen even though he knew Ladybug was busy, just because he wanted to spend time with her. He admits to telling his kwami he’d quit while Paris was underwater if he didn’t spill what Ladybug was hiding.

Honestly, even Truth at this point is like, “man I wanted to divide your teamwork, not your entire relationship.”

Ladybug eventually manages to snap out of her trance and deal with the whole situation (mostly by herself), but the damage is done. Even after the akuma has been purified and Truth turns back into Luka, Chat’s words linger and Ladybug ignores him.

“Are you okay, Luka?”

“Huh? Ah, yeah, thanks...”

Chat is awkwardly standing nearby, his tail in both hands as he fiddles with it. “So--ah... Bugaboo--”

“Don’t,” Ladybug cuts in, not even looking at him. “Is that why you use that nickname when I’m mad? To butter me up? Try to earn points? Do you think it’s funny?”

“No, no!” He waves his hands frantically. “It’s not--”

“See, the thing is that now I won’t know whether you’re lying or not,” she points out, the situation feeling all to familiar to when Tikki lied to her, only this was worse. She honestly wanted to trust Chat Noir; he was her partner, irreplaceable in the sense that he was there from the start.

But maybe not irreplaceable elsewhere.

“I wouldn’t lie to you!” he swears.

“But you’ll keep things from me,” she counters. She sighs, gently taking Luka’s hand and helping him stand, then addressing him as she says, “I’ll take you home, alright?”

Luka’s gaze briefly flickers between the two of them, but he asks no questions and nods. “Thank you.”

She guides him up the staircase to take him up to the balcony, Chat Noir rushing over to stand at the bottom of the steps.

“M’lady--!”

Ladybug turns to him with a silencing glare. “I really don’t want to be around you right now. We’ll talk later when I’m ready.”

(He’s going to be in for a long talk when they finally meet back up again, and suddenly, he isn’t so eager for an akuma to come rushing by to force them to come back together as a team.)

And with that, Ladybug goes up to the balcony, takes Luka in her arms, and leaves. Things are quiet at first, her taking in a few breaths of the night air as she tries to relax.

The past few days had been a mess, and that was putting it lightly. The kwami, dating, the akuma (that Chat Noir had apparently been soooo excited about), and now this big revelation. The stress must show on her face too, as she can occasionally feel Luka’s concerned gaze on her.

In a way, it’s nice, just having her boyfriend care like this, even when she’s in a mask. He’d put up with way more for her than she felt like he should’ve, and she knew that he’d disagree if she even dared to voice that thought.

Without really thinking, she starts talking to him. She talks about Ladybug, about everything; being thrown into this life that she didn’t ask for, and being happy to save Paris but sad at the emotional toll it takes. She tells him about all the friends who tease her for her lateness, and while it might’ve been funny at first - she was genuinely absent-minded at times - it doesn’t become as funny when knowing that it was something that couldn’t be helped.

“...I’m sorry you’re going through that,” Luka says in an offer of comfort. He sighs, not recoiling from her but it feels like he’s distant anyway. “I know it didn’t help that I was akumatized. I hope I didn’t do anything to Marinette.”

Her gaze softens; of course he’s thinking of her again. It’s Luka, she has no right to be surprised.

Chat Noir, meanwhile, was just thinking of himself.

“Actually,” she corrects, something occurring to her, “I think you might’ve helped in your own way.”

Luka tilts his head at her, puzzled.

She changes course just slightly, specifically to a spot not too far from the Liberty; one that is very familiar to both of them, and she can tell by the way his brows raise that he’s surprised by where she’s about to land.

Underneath the bridge, in the spot where he’d initially asked her - when she was Marinette - where she’d always been going, just before he got akumatized.

She sets him down, then paces around to try and clear her head.

“...Like I said, I didn’t get a lot of choice in this,” she begins. “I tried to give my miraculous up once in the beginning, but there was so much pressure and everything was going wrong. Then, things would just--happen around me, things that I couldn’t really think of--and this is coming from me!” She turns to him dramatically, gesturing to herself. “I imagine things going wrong all the time and I still can’t predict when they actually do!”

Luka chuckles lightly at that, but otherwise stays quiet, unsure of where she’s going with this but giving her his full attention.

“Me becoming the new guardian of the miraculouses so out of nowhere... it was a lot, and suddenly I had a bunch of kwami around my room who all wanted to get into my stuff or mess around. I didn’t choose to let them out; it just happened when I was trying to see how the box with all the miraculouses worked.” She groans a bit, rubbing her forehead as she paces around again. “Then in came Shadow Moth and all the akuma showing up, and now I’m even busier. I can’t even make time for my boyfriend.”

There’s a flicker of emotion in Luka’s eyes at that, but he doesn’t say anything, though his fingers twitch slightly at his sides.

“Then--” She looks down. “--there’s Chat Noir. I didn’t choose him either; the old guardian chose him for me, and he wasn’t even fully trained. I was Chat’s partner and that was it; I didn’t get a choice to give up, it just... was, and I have to deal with whatever the relationship--” She makes a face at the word. “--we have is, because if something goes wrong then everything can go wrong, and then Paris is in danger.”

She shakes her head, realizing that she’s rambling. She continues staring quietly at the ground, then releases the tenseness in her shoulders.

“But...” She looks up to meet Luka’s gaze. “I did choose you, Luka. I finally got to choose something for me, and the only thing I regret about it is everything that I can’t choose. You chose me and I chose you and...” She almost laughs. “It’s weird that it’s that simple for once.”

He’s clearly pieced the puzzle together by now but hasn’t quite processed the result. She can see the whisper of her name on his lips and she smiles at him, taking a step back and spreading her arms wide.

“You’re my real partner, Luka. You get me, you care about me, and we’re similar but different and it’s great.” She swallows, feeling her nerves building a little but pushing forward enthusiastically nonetheless. “So I want to make a choice for us, because we trust each other and I want to give you something no one else has.”

Then, she closes her eyes, taking a breath and briefly tightening her hands into fists.

“Tikki, spots off.”

#((Is there such a thing as *too* many ''Truth'' fix-its?))#type: ideas #type: salt #other: ml spoilers #((I considered sending this ask to my other account but I didn't know if this anon followed me there.))#Flower Arrangement Shipping #episode: Truth #episode: Lies #Pro LukaMari #Lukanette

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deans-haunted-baby · 4 years

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Okay I see there are those who are confused as to why most of us are pissed about 15x19 I will gladly explain in depth:

Let’s start off with our boys Adam Milligan & Michael. These characters have not been seen for 10 fucking years. During that time there were Adam stans like myself campaigning like mad to have him and the infamous archangel return for some much needed closure. We had to content ourselves with headcanons, fanfictions and metas based on what we briefly knew of Adam and Michael as people while they unfairly sat in Hell. You might have seen the “Adam’s Still in Hell” memes that circulated. WE WAITED OVER A DECADE FOR THIS. And finally SPN answers our prayers and returns these boys back into the story for the final season. None of us anticipated what their arc and dynamic would look like. Before we could only imagine who these two characters were/are after having been trapped in a cage so long; what their personalities would be like and if they’d be antagonistic to TFW. 15x08 was a surprise because not only were Adam and Michael likable right out of the gate but the writing for them and their dynamic was damn near flawless! And Jake fucking stole the show he killed it as these two. It’s a crime they were not featured in more episodes because the chemistry between these characters is amazing and they’re played by the same dude.

We were given so much background into both Adam and Michael’s psyches in just a short period of time. Their motivations, interests and how they viewed those that wronged them (like the Winchesters); how Hell affected/changed them both and how they viewed their families. We got to see them banter, cooperate with one another and most importantly their different personalities. With Jake Abel appearing in only a handful of SPN episodes, he still fleshed out Michael and Adam beautifully; giving them layers and complexities that most side-characters (who’ve appeared more times than they have) didn’t. The way Jake played Adam’s anger and resentment towards his brothers was brilliant because it’s more under the surface compared to his angsty teenage self in 5x18. He’d become somewhat restrained, laid-back, gentler and wiser which works because Adam displays traits similar to Sam and Dean. He’s kinder and has a sense of humor but none of that distracts from rational thought as he’s quick to analyze and dissect situations. Man, he would’ve made a great hunter/Men of Letters recruit. We know right off the bat Adam’s pissed at his brothers for abandoning him in a thousand-year-prison-sentence and didn’t lift a finger BUT that ironically doesn’t compromise his willingness to help them unlike his past self in 5x18. Jake gets the point across with this character without saying much and that’s what made him so compelling to watch in this episode.

Now Michael was even more of a mystery onion since he wasn’t onscreen as much as Adam had been in past episodes so Jake got to really build on top of this character. Going from the uptight, cold-blooded merciless celestial warrior/dutiful son of God we saw in 5x22 to someone whom despite his arrogance and regal princely demeanor was very human, intelligent, fair, mindful and compassionate. He trusted Adam and respected his opinions even if he didn’t agree 100%. Whereas most angels take over the vessel completely from their original occupant; Michael chooses to share his vessel with Adam as a mutual agreement which says a lot about who he is. He’s fascinated with humanity and wanted to explore it instead of returning to his throne in the clouds. We know that Michael was created specifically to be Humanity’s protector and guardian of Heaven and Earth so these quirks he’d demonstrated in 15x08 aren’t too far off. He holds a lot of pain inside from his abandonment issues with his father whom he loves to a fault and grief over the death of his brothers. On the surface there’s very much an abused child syndrome thing going on with him though he masks it with a domineering presence. And above all this we saw that he was capable of forgiveness. Whether or not Michael always had these traits inside to begin with, its very evident that his friendship with Adam influenced the person he became post-Hell. And that was someone who, like Castiel, chose to rebel for the sake of free will by aligning himself with the Winchesters after witnessing the evil his father had committed. He actually cared about saving the world. This is what we call character development.

What does 15x19 do? It shits all over that. We don’t get to see Adam and Michael’s dynamic at all; and this was perhaps one of (if not the first) most healthy portrayal of a relationship between an angel and its original vessel occupant in the history of Supernatural. Adam is just killed off-screen Thanos style without so much as one last word and Michael barely reacts like he gives a crap. It was just established to us in 15x08 that he’d developed an emotional bond with Adam through years of inhabiting the same body. He protected Adam while they were trapped together in Hell. They were each other’s only friend and source of comfort. They’d developed a certain co-dependency on each other while respecting one another’s space. They’d both made peace with their joint situation. All they had was each other and the writing in 15x19 basically tells us their relationship meant absolutely NOTHING to Michael based on his OOC actions in this episode. He shows up much darker and shadier now that Adam is gone and its like all those years of friendship, things like that independence, newfound strength and humility he’d gained from living with a human for so long are erased. Michael just reverts back to Chuck’s 5x22 bitchboy persona in the most ridiculous 180 shift I’ve ever seen in my whole damn life. And all because his little brother called him mean names. Pitiful. Just when he lectures Lucifer about standing up for what’s right; he betrays his own words, his allies and the rest of humanity in T-minus 2 minutes. That is total character assassination. Nothing about this motivation makes any sense.

There’s no build up to it, no foreshadowing in 15x08 or throughout 15x19 until they get to the lake. He’s completely deconstructed as a character in this episode and rendered weak. It’s like 15x08 never happened. Stripped of all his development for lousy shock value. Instead utilizing all of what he’d learned through Adam and sticking it to Lucifer by proving he could be more than what Chuck tried to mold him into; Michael becomes just another NPC in the story forfeiting the hero he was. And his reasons for siding with Chuck are never specified. Was it about about saving Adam? Was it about proving something to Lucifer (whom he’d already killed in anti-climatic fashion)? Was it all an act that he was in on with the Winchesters; cause there’s absolutely NO FUCKING WAY they could’ve predicted he’d flip on them like that for their magical plan to work. Not after everything Chuck’s done, killing Adam and Jack and leaving Michael to rot in Hell for eternity. And why would he suddenly go along with destroying the Earth when defeating Chuck would probably get Adam back (if that was his goal) which IT DID not to mention its his sworn duty to freaking protect humanity, hello? So his betrayal meant jack shit in the end as it got him killed by his fucking dad!! He’s brought back into the show only to be ruined forever and killed off in the stupidest fashion.

Moving on.

Jack Kline & Castiel. This iron-clad relationship has been in development for 4 in 1/2 years since before Jack was even born. And next to Adam & Michael its the other most healthy relationship on the show. Castiel, a million year old celestial being, spent the first 9 years of his arc on Supernatural following around the Winchesters, being torn between his loyalty to them and to Heaven. He rebelled when he was supposed to be a straight-by-the-book warrior of God. And he defied every rule in the process even when the odds were stacked against him. There was an endless rinse and repeat cycle of love, loss, betrayal and redemption when it came to his relationship with Sam and Dean. It made his character complex, interesting and layered but it still didn’t give him an arc that was his own. Castiel started out moreso being written as just the Winchester’s angel BFF/side-kick. Until Lucifer got Kelly Kline pregnant in 12x08 then things really took off. Before this, Castiel was a lost soul. His faith was broken, he was depressed, lonely, battered and rundown from years of being conflicted over the other angels and Sam & Dean. He felt he’d lost a sense of self and meaning in his life. And didn’t have a mission. Once he turned on Heaven’s orders, Castiel was a rebel angel without a cause so to speak. But like I said this changes the moment he meets Kelly.

Originally Castiel was suppose to kill Kelly in 12x19 because she was carrying the child of the devil and Nephilim are considered forbidden abominations. Told that if Lucifer’s kid was born he could unleash even more evil into the world. But instead of doing what he thought he should, Castiel decides to runaway with her. Choosing to protect her from all threats (Lucifer, demons, other angels, princes of Hell); this especially included the Winchesters. During this short time-frame the angel develops a strong, emotional bond with Kelly and her unborn son that stretches all the way to the S12 finale; to the point where it actually gave him a power-boost. From the womb, Jack appoints Castiel to be his father and protector and he’s given a glimpse into the child’s destiny that he’ll bring paradise to the world. A prophecy that the writers establish head on. This is an unusual circumstance because right here is where Castiel’s solo arc apart from the Sam & Dean takes shape. The journey of becoming a first time parent and guardian. Its a new kind of independence that for the first time has nothing to do with his friends or his family members/colleagues in the sky. Its his own personal mission that he willingly accepts, the second he connects with Jack from inside Kelly. Castiel immediately falls in love with him, before they even see each other; and adopts the boy devoting himself to keeping him safe. Making a promise to Kelly that would later become a vital plot-point in the seasons to come.

Castiel literally risks everything (Heaven and Earth) to ensure Jack’s birth and ends up dead by 12x23′s startling conclusion. Leaving the newborn infant Nephilim alone in the care of the Winchesters going into season 13; scared, confused and aged into a seemingly 18 year old boy for his own protection. And Alexander Calvert who is a fantastic addition to the cast really brings something wonderful to this role; he’s like a breath of fresh air and a bright light in the middle of a dark room. Jack’s naïve, innocent and curious about his surroundings but also as Castiel once put it “remarkably intuitive”. Right when he’s introduced his arc is intentionally paralleled with Castiel’s. Their alien-fish-out-of-water beginning is practically identical as is their adorable stoic facial expressions. Like father like son. And this helps because while the angel is currently dead in the beginning of season 13, there’s an empty void he’s left behind. So Jack is kind of his temporary stand-in. Odd enough this type of switcharoo would’ve been considered very controversial but it’s handled quite well. Alex is so likable and charming I almost wish Supernatural had introduced him sooner. I mean I really thought I was looking at Castiel’s actual mini-me and not the son of Satan. But I digress Jack’s story in the first half of this season is pretty much about discovery and reuniting with Castiel. He’s a baby so everything is new to him but he’s also one of the most powerful beings in the universe destined for greatness which makes the Winchesters very nervous.

Jack remembers choosing Castiel as his dad which is why he already feels strongly connected to him. Its a bond so powerful that it actually resurrects Castiel out of the Empty the first time. Something Chuck himself was unable to do (that was until the mess that is 15x19). When they’re finally reunited the payoff comes so naturally. Misha and Alex have such a phenomenal onscreen chemistry starting with that first hug; they really play off one another so well that it doesn’t feel like two angels interacting but a genuine father and son duo. So much of what makes Jack and Castiel’s relationship so relatable, deep and endearing is because of what the actors bring to it. But they’re not just a fascinating relationship, they’re compelling on their own too. Both trying to find their way in the world and within the Winchesters’ lives. Death is no stranger to either of them (tragic being that Jack is only a toddler). They’ve each experienced their own personal pain, traumas, life lessons, mistakes and decisions. The biggest for Castiel would be his deal with the Empty to save Jack in 14x08. While for Jack it was the consequences of said deal that would lose his soul causing him to accidently kill Sam and Dean’s mom in 14x18 as a result (something that Jack struggles with immensely to the brink of depression from so much guilt and regret that he’d rather die). Repercussions that would follow into the shows final season. What’s interesting about this deal though is that Castiel made it on parental instinct alone not as a promise to Kelly. He chose to sacrifice himself for the sake of his son as a selfless act of love and kept it a secret from Sam & Dean until his death in 15x18. That’s the extent how much this child meant to him. The other great thing about their family dynamic is that it parallels nicely with the Winchesters. Castiel and Jack share this unconditional love that can never be broken. its even greater than their ties to the Winchesters themselves just as Sam & Dean’s love for each other is greater than any of their other relationships. They would do anything for each other. Castiel would go to the ends of the earth for the little nougat baby because that’s his son.

Each time these characters were faced with danger or died, Castiel and Jack were overcome with extreme devastation and distress. That said its not just pain that binds these two its happiness. Jack is the best thing that ever happened to Castiel. Literally becoming a father to that child saved him. It brought him back to life, restored his faith and gave him a sense of self-worth and hope he’d long since abandoned. And for Jack, Castiel is the best dad he’ll ever have! He gave this baby comfort, wisdom, nurturing, strength. Was always there when he needed him whether it was to talk or to have his back. No other person in Jack’s life has ever made such an important impact nor made him feel more safe and loved than Castiel. Even when Jack had done such a horrible thing to Mary alienating himself from his family; it was Castiel’s unyielding devotion to Jack that ended up being his salvation. This was huge because once again he’d chosen over the Winchesters proving that no matter what (whether it be the world ending) his son comes first. So when Castiel’s pact with the Empty finally comes due in 15x18 you’d think it’d have an earth-shattering affect on Jack in 15x19. I mean for the first bit it does...until he becomes God. Then its like to hell with that relationship. Castiel is a complete afterthought to Jack and the rest of TFW in this episode. JACK DOESN’T EVEN GET TO GRIEVE HIM PROPERLY. And he just lost his dad because of a deal he’d made a year ago for him. A DEAL JACK HAS BEEN FUCKING DREADING WHILE HE WAS SOULLESS MIND YOU. And when he finally has the power to bring him back, he doesn’t? Jack just walks around with a conceited smirk on his face, bids Sam and Dean adieu and fucks off. I mean who gives a shit right, its only your dad that you love more than anything. This was extremely OOC given that time in 14x14 Jack nearly lost his shit when Castiel got infected with gorgon poison; the anti-venom wasn’t working so Jack resorts to using his powers putting his soul at risk.

I mean if he was so limited to helping Castiel in the Empty AT LEAST FREAKING CLARIFIY THIS TO THE AUDIENCE. This is not about shipping a certain pairing btw. Jack becoming God is not the issue its his characterization after the fact. His first instinct would’ve been to save his dad above getting in touch with the Earth. Yes we knew this transformation was coming it was foreshowed way back in Season 12. Does that justify bad writing or character assassination?? HELL NO.

This is what I’m talking about, episode 15x19 deliberately butchers these characters and their relationships. It shat all over them. No one is behaving like themselves. The pacing is wonky and inconstant. The script feels like it underwent several rewrites and I swear there were scenes cut out. The acting is off too and maybe the pandemic could be blamed for these things but it ultimately falls on the writer. Buckleming screwed up by showing us they don’t know who the hell these characters are, their motivations nor do they give a rat’s ass. And its noticeable on screen. I’ve known better fanfiction writers for SPN than these guys. It’s like they all came back to work but just didn’t care to put the effort into it. That’s why people like me are upset and we have every freaking right to be. Some of us have been with this series for the entire 15 year run. I at least expect these characters to be handled better and for things to make sense. 15x19 doesn’t and its not satisfying its just a cruel joke. The writers and Dabb should be embarrassed to have put this out there thinking we’d just swallow it and shut up. But far as I’m concerned the only thing this episode serves is to disrespect and ruin everybody while angering long-time fans.

MICHAEL. ADAM MILLIGAN. JACK KLINE AND CASTIEL DESERVED BETTER. And that’s the tea.

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supercorp-hosie · 3 years

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My thoughts for Legacies 316: (here we go again😂)

(I’m combining after thoughts with live thoughts)

1) The soundtracks for this episode are amazing, they fit very well even for Finsie that I heard that a lot of people were complaining on Reddit.

2) I finally get my team Sowanby! I just feel so much from them! They kind of make a great team, but please, do not go on another heist again. You both sucks at that! The holes are, the museum don’t have a fucking alarm for Leonardo DaVinci’s work? Are you kidding me? And Landon beating the shit out of the guard but not putting him out first is so dumb. The worst is Cleo calling Landon’s name so loud, I can’t😂😂😂😂😂😂 you don’t want people to be on your back when you have the Malivore threat going on guys! And ha! You guys are on the headline! That’s why I really feel like these supernaturals are so outdated and solidified from modern technology, even in 2030! Are you going to tell me everything technology will still be the same like now?? Come on, there’ll be cameras watching everywhere. Like they can see Cleo using magic! I need my Trimini (or bridge) coven and Hope starting to integrate the supernatural world with the modern world. About Trimini and Hope future career, click here.

3) the line about “many who shaped it are never acknowledged” I stand! After that, about the key card my random thoughts were about Landon being the one that stole the key card😂 just out of the blue and I’m proven wrong though.

4) Landon bonding with Cleo!!!! They thought the same way, and “I can promise that anyone that have to get to you, they have to get to me” is so strong! But the scene after, is the moment I started really doubting Landon, the look is too alarming. But there are still Sowanby scenes😭😭😭 and the melted heart mud... I mean I genuinely believed that the spell didn’t work because Landon is also mud himself. But in hindsight it is horrific, like the serial killer is just standing next to you but and the signs are right in front of you.

5) Malivore mud being artistically friendly! I can’t haha! Oh and when Holarke walked on Sowanby inspiring moment🤣🤣🤣I can’t, they act like both of them are cheating on one another it’s hilarious. Thank you for acknowledging each other Holarke and Sowanby🤣. By now, I should have known that’s MaliLandon. It’s humiliating because Holarke and Sowanby got me so happy that I didn’t see the clues lmao! Because there’s this line: “Following the footstep of the Renaissance greatest man? ” but this thing, Cleo only did it with Leonardo, with whom she slept with......

6) And damn, after that, I felt like a FOOL, CLOWN, WHATEVER after that! All I have for team Sowanby is fake ��🙃🙃🤡🤡🤡 Anyway we still have to admit that the promise still stand true right, cuz it’s literal.🤣🤣🤣 MaliLandon fulfills his promise by eating Cleo. TYPICAL.

7) Holarke! Clarke is still handsome as ever😍. We can see his presence is clearly affecting Josie and making Hope giving him information. Can we talk about how cute is he sleeping soundly here?

8) Lizzie being the only unaffected queen here. AND IT’S FINALLY LIZZIE’S TURN FOR “AD SONNUM” I can totally see her pleasantness in doing that to somebody after being on the receiving end🤣🤣🤣 Josie and Hope had done it before so now we actually see her doing it. I somehow feel completed.

9) The look Hope and Josie shared. Hosie!

10) Josie is going to be the death of me! I like her look. And how the camera moving upward gosh! And I’m totally digressing here, what is a razzleberry? And what is a slush? I have no idea what they are, I just feel like tasting what she tasting now. Lizzie’s line, crashing and splashing😂 Am I colour blind? Cuz I really can’t tell whether Hope is wearing dark blue or dark green 😅 if it’s green, then the traffic lights colour are back again lol. If blue, then Hosie matching clothes! Did Finsie ever have matching colours? I’m just wondering.

11) Hosie scene! They talked about how seeing Clarke traumatised Josie~~ damn and Josie says traumatised is her permanent resting state. I mean even on her birthday she was buried alive lmao. And Hope wants to help Josie stop the traumas by sacrificing herself to defeat Malivore, like by literally dying. Which she didn’t want because she didn’t want to live forever.

12) Holarke scene again! I love all those banters and their dynamics😂😂 how Hope is the only one that trusts Clarke now. The mimic spell! It’s their thing😍😍. Oh it totally surprised me that Clarke isn’t mud man anymore. I’m really happy for him, because he finally break himself out of the abuse! It seems like triad is totally gone?? But I still kind of think that there may be something more? And Clarke’s reaction to Hope opening the artefact! 🤣🤣🤣 and the way that Clarke sensed the familiarity with Cleo! Yea boy, she’s the inspiration to the creation of you.

13) Clarke keeps calling Hope and Landon kids🤣 how’s the feeling of getting kid!Hope kicking your ass and saving you😂😂😂 oh she’s totally your equal. Frenemies at best! YES! I love Holarke bonding. And the fact that Clarke being Hope inspiration to believe in friendship and her family now can help her to defeat Malivore, I Stan! Don’t lose sight of the corner! Josie! Lizzie! Clarke! Yes you have them! I’m glad that Clarke didn’t die, I’ll be so mad because the writer would be bringing him back for nothing. Oh the incendia is painful, affecting me more than the fake looking MaliLandon eating Cleo. The height difference again🤣 with Holarke this time.

14) I love Maleb clothes, not really shipping them just short form for their bromance😂 but I do enjoy if there suggests shipping cuz it’s fun! Love that them being supportive of each other, superheroing, and the hero name🤣🤣they’re clueless too. Poor Kaleb and Cleo. I really need his backstory 😫

15) about hero names, I’m still having playback of “blursome and essential” in my mind. MG is looking at the mask longer than Kaleb, I feel like he’s missing Ethan, like a lot. Another thing is, since we see the effect of someone else being compelled so clearly, but we never seen Ethan’s compelling effects. Or it’s a budget matter? They must be kidding right? So maybe Ethan is really faking it? So that leads us to Lethan....

16) if my suspicion is true, then damn, Ethan is using Lizzie to get into SBS? I’m worried for Lizzie’s wellbeing. Also the look on Josie when Ethan drives near tight after she said like some eligible will fall out of the sky🤣🤣🤣 the timing is impeccable lmao. For real, Lizzie wanting Ethan to be Hope’s rebound after her kiss with him in the trio imagination, is ....so the trio is now sharing guys now? Jandon is still there in the history! It’ll be like a very messing love multi-triangle😌😌😌

17) the way Lizzie talked about how Hope is perfect the whole way and judging by the day when they arrived at SBS? That’s very long! Lmao, Lizzie are you sure you’re not in love with Hope? Hizzie rights! (I don’t even know when I started to ship Hizzie, it’s a mystery🤣) I think I can only talk like that about my love. Why don’t you make you and your sister Hope’s rebound? I’ll be happy with what I get🤣

18) The decision to bring Ethan on a tour, is so bad. What if ethan ended up enrolling SBS and Alaric can’t deny the application? Did she ever think of that?? And Josie and Mg is going to face the consequences in the near future🤣 dreadful! From there I already felt the cliche sweetness that when you’re trying to be a wingwoman and ended up “selling” yourself out🤣🤣 fuck CW for cutting the scenes of Lizzie’s epic facial expression when she was slapped with her own words😂😂😂anyway, it’s no way she can refuse the ask out after 315 where Lizzie still thinks that she can’t be the chosen one when Hope is there, but someone actually chooses her even after all the Hope is perfect speech. As much as I mourn for Methan and Mizzie, I’m happy that she got someone to tell her that. But I think they’re destined to backfire😅

19) so does the Mizzie “will they won’t they?” officially end here? I’m confused. Btw it’s really a way to mention Sebastian’s death being relocated permanently 🤣 oh wait...she knew that that prison world is destroyed forever right????? Someone save me.

20) okay I have to go back before Ethan picked the twins up: while Lizzie is actually worrying about themselves being stranded, Josie is just more concerned about Hope? Hosie! Poor Josie, she never sees that she is Hope soft spot and can totally make Hope happy too. Look at your dumb joke at 103, Hope’s laugh is magnificent too. It’s because of you. And yes I’m with Josie, I just ship Hope with herself and her axe right now, don’t put her with anyone for at least 5 more episode please.

21) The one that doesn’t dissolve into goo! Now is Clarke! And the both of you my dear twins. Btw, the dna thing, where Clarke confirms that dna is still toxic... so it applies to Landon too right? And it’s now just more overwhelmingly apparent that handon sex is without protection. Yea so much for epic love. And this is about the possibility where (hopefully) it’s not MaliLandon when the sex scene happened.

22) Finsie time! I got to say, it’s really improving. Their scene is beautiful, finally. That feeling that they’re nice together is now going on continuous for me. I’m happy for them! They are now stepping up on Hosie, not derogatory, I’m just seeing some parallels from hosie here. The disclose of Ethan broken arm, where Hosie has done, before that there’s Clarke’s traumatising Josie thing with Hosie. Next, the focus on the hand holding, I’m thinking of 207 and others. The “me being here with you”, with hosie 308 “then I’ll be here with you”. The whole thing is very comforting for Josie. The hug is good too. We can see that they finally have some nice scene and the bgm is good for them.

23) I have no idea what is magical agronomy, so I look it up. Again, that shows how Josie love plants, like someone in Reddit said they observed that Josie’s side of room has several plants. And in 307, the herbs, that she remembers. I think it can help a lot if Hope is starting a magical technology company. Josie’s interest in that can come in handy. They’ll make a great team. About TRIMINI INDUSTRIES tap here.

24) we are still missing Jed here. Justice for Jed. We need Jed real first name. Did anyone notice when the super squad faces MaliLandon there’s no werewolf present? They’re really downplaying that huh? But maybe I can be satisfied that they are not making Finch being there but not Jed.

25) We need to address this thing about Handon. It’s like one and a half time that Hope couldn’t recognise that Landon is not Landon right? We still have to give credits to her memories shared with Cleo actually make Cleo kind of recognise the difference? So half a time. I agree with Josie’s words that Landon makes Hope happy. I mean, yes, most of the time they failed in working but there’s still sweet scenes between them. So that’s actually what makes Handon tolerable. They are what makes me only do facepalm rather than skipping them. So yes of course Hope has happy moments with Landon. Just that it doesn’t mean that they’re good together.

26) it’s always Landon’s bros that first find out Landon wasn’t Landon😂 this time is Clarke. It’s Clarke that tell Hope, “Landon will never leave you”. That’s the inconsistency of the writers, not counting MaliLandon’s time, it’s still two times. And there’s time that some will argue that Landon’s feet literally walk away from Hope. So...that’s not true, do not stuff that in our throat anymore. “I always thought you two are destined to be together” is this the writer way of saying they’re not doing Handon anymore or otherwise? Cuz “thought” is past tense and “are” is present tense. I’m tired. It’s normal that Hope still wants Landon to be happy and still love him. But after the breakup, when she still doesn’t know that it’s MaliLandon, the “still dying to get Landon again” is obsession. Girl, it’s derogatory to your self-esteem. “If a mud man like me can beat his fate, maybe you kids can too” yea that’s Handon going on.

27) we shouldn’t need to be told that Handon is epic love multiple times. We should be able to feel them, see them ourselves. Why did I start approving Finsie now, because instead of them being only all talking and no showing, now we see them working well (until now). I have been widely accepting to any other legacies ships and why I never ship Handon? So really these multiple telling us that how good is Landon to Hope, is not working. I’ve never been so frustrated.

28) Let’s appreciate the Handon parallel with 101. It’s interesting that how Landon is inside the cage and Hope is outside the cage again. The meaning of the cage has deep meaning here. Handon first kiss is in the cage, that kind of mean that their love is trapped there. Like how their relationship being so troublesome and bound by these fateful encounters. The lights are quite similar, handon always has this blue lighting for them, which sometimes it’s kind of weird. The first time it is Hope decorating the ceiling with stars for Landon. It’s sweet, but also implying that what Handon has is the false beauty of them and not keeping the cage symbolism in mind. In other way of interpreting it, this is the writer foreshadowing their endgame. Cuz they’re trapped there, no way in no way out.

29) I think I’m not the only one bothered by the mostly lack of real Landon appearance in s3. As we can see how MaliLandon words sits so right about, Landon not belonging to SBS if it weren’t Hope. Then he leaves with Cleo, that’s a thing for Sowanby too, they still don’t have roots with the school, and it’s a great bonding between them, friendship or not. It’s the bond between them that matter. In 314 315, we always see that the students were totally fine without Landon. Like the three trios paralleling? It’s sad that Landon is like bouncing here and there in SBS but never really belong. And now the writers kind of ripped his personal development. So now he has neither his pheonix powers nor fighting skills, great? And even Hope’s growth too. We are seeing her moving to a good direction and the writers have to drag her back in the hell hole. Hope needs to not always looking at Landon for her happiness, it’s not good for the both of them. Like MG said, be your own person.

30) THEORIES regarding Landon: a) It’s MaliLandon all the way? I hope not, it’s reminding me of Lost Girl that one of the characters slept with the father personating the person she loves, and got pregnant. Tell you what was more alarming? When the episode ended, I was recommended to move on to Lost Girl on CW seed. It’s disgusting! Why do you want to help make me hate Handon? I don’t even hate them initially! I’m like struggling to be logical and lean on the positive side here. Why I can’t move on from this possibility: first, I’ve always headcannon that Malivore has partial control over Landon. Like how Landon actually wasn’t lying in 102 103? That’s Malivore. And Handon, as genius as always, doesn’t talk about it. Second, the way that Landon dissolved, he was human back then, but he turns into goo? how does it even work? If he is human, toxic to dna will make him die, not become goo, right? Even if that wasn’t a problem, it can also be MaliLandon trying his luck. Third, Malivore purpose is to make the perfect legacy, he will totally give it a try to make tribrid-Malivore babies. Fourth, during the inspiration from Cleo, MaliLandon has Landon’s memories, enhancing the theories that Malivore has partial control over Landon, so even if it wasn’t MaliLandon, it’s still partial-MaliLandon. Fifth, after the inspiration, MaliLandon said that he doesn’t need Hope to tackle his problem or for his purposes, which means he initially wanted Hope, thinking getting to Hope can help with his purposes. It’s really not a far-fetched.

31) THEORIES regarding Landon: b) it’s real Landon during sex, but Malivore got him in the prison world. While having Landon’s personal growth ripped and Handon still dragging out are not pleasant at all, this is still a more pleasant theory for me. At least Landon did start fighting for himself after sometime, and while the sex is still partial-MaliLandon, at least it’s not MaliLandon. (I’m always using at least for Handon 🙃) maybe we can still have Landon fighting skills? Cuz I was happy for him about this though. But I just don’t think so. The evidence for this theory is, my feeling about Landon in 306 is that it kind of fits Landon personality, but he did start his violence there. Another thing is the letter. There’s care in “to whom it may concern”. However, that can be just me being simp. And there’s also possibilities that the partial control from Malivore is cultivating Landon’s behaviour starting there and slowly taking control. Because making a deal with the devil always has its consequences. It’s either that or Landon was taken after the letter.

32) regarding the picture above, i just want to point out about another interesting point about the structure of the scene, if you scroll back and see sowanby picture with the door and another bonding talk, you can se that there’s always pillar and frames that’s framing or trapping them together. Like Handon. I mean that’s totally MaliLandon, so this pointing out is not mean to be romantic. It’s just a thought about how devastating that Cleo is stuck in something her whole life, especially the picture structure that implies that she’s stuck with MaliLandon again.

33) overall I’m thinking this is a good and disgusting episode. With all the unexpected twist, it’s really good, there’s actually layers in showing us that Landon is not Landon every time. Then those bonding. The soundtrack, the scenes. Disgusting, is about the theory, and how we are all tangled back to Handon again after we finally have some fresh air. Not to mention the always surprisingly convenient that Landon always has an excuse when we see Landon did something bad to Hope. Like he can never be making big mistake while only having little questionable doings that can’t possible tarnish him being the perfect person in the show. The first time he lies, Malivore controlled him. During the pageant competition, he is justified to walk away when he totally chose the wrong timing to ask that question, leaving Hope alone breaking in front of such important event. 207, monsters are coming for him, he’s protecting people by leaving. Musical episode, he needs to cross boundaries because it’s bound to be, without further reasoning it with Hope, when Hope specifically was very respectful of him in 111 about his songs. And now, this. That’s not him, we can’t blame him. He will never be blame for something big because the writers is biased. Very biased in making that Landon is better than anyone else in the show, so he’s the perfect guy for Hope. Like no one can compare with him. He’s almost perfect. Perfect than Hope.

34) Reflect on what Hope did in 308, MG is kind of right, she shouldn’t have touched it without fully prepared. Because it totally let Malivore running out free instead of him being an originally contained problem. It’s for the good view in whole. Heroes make hard decisions. There’s still the hair thing cut from Hope and Golem!Landon.

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