#The language of the outside people

[thoughtportal]

In this episode, we tell the inspiring, heartbreaking story of Radio Haiti. For several decades, the station broadcast not just in French, spoken by Haiti's elite, but also in Kreyòl, spoken by rich and poor alike. The Kreyòl-language programs communicated directly with the rural poor—the 'outside people'—popularizing issues of inequity and corruption. Helping us tell Radio Haiti's story are Michèle Montas, widow of the station's assassinated owner Jean Dominique, and archivist Laura Wagner.

Music in this episode by Samba Zao, Sosyete Grandra, Tèt Kole Ti Peyizan Ayisyen (Jean-Rabel), MIUT, Nico Rengifo, and Timothy Infinite. The photo is of a painting by Maxan Jean-Louis, courtesy of Radio Haiti Papers, David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library, Duke University.

Read a transcript with some great photos here.

#The language of the outside people #subtitle podcast #podcast #podcasts #language #french #Haitian #haiti #Radio Haiti #Kreyòl

[maulfucker]

racism in star wars will have wikis saying shit like "this species that is inspired on a real life non-white people is just too stupid to use the Force"

#hm i should make an original post tag #yes this is about tuskens #they 'lack mental capacity' to be jedi. according to some writer #which is fucking ridiculous #they have enough mental capacity to have two languages (spoken tusken and tusken sign language) #(they are usually seen being used together but they can be used independently) #just because they're nomadic and hostile to colonizers doesn't mean they're stupid. or lack the nuance to understand good and evil. #in me opinion there may not be any tusken jedi but for the same reason there's no bardottan jedi - they have their own force culture #they are hostile to outsiders and defensive of their people‚ of course they wouldn't let some foreign order take their children away #i think a force-sensitive tusken would be highly regarded in their tribe. being one with the universe is a special privilege.

[llyfrenfys]

See, I personally find this quest to find pagan/pre-Christian elements in Welsh/Irish literature quite unnerving - I don't know about anyone else.

There's something to be said about genuinely discovering pre-Christian elements in a narrative or story and that being where evidence and study has led you. But I see some people on this fruitless quest to find pagan elements in very Christian texts and sometimes it feels like if no pagan elements can be found, people start making stuff up out of whole cloth - and that can be very dangerous for already not-well known texts in minoritised languages!

There's already so much misinformation out there about Irish/Welsh texts and literature in general - so it hurts to see people carelessly adding to the misinformation either out of ignorance or lack of respect for the source material.

I promise you the source material being Christian doesn't ruin it - you can in fact, enjoy these myths without making them into something they're not!

#I feel like general ire towards (particularly) colonial Christianity has informed how people think of and view anything that is associated #with Christianity - and ire towards some of the ills committed in the name of Christianity is very valid actually #but what it isn't is approaching any text written in a Christian context and immediately disregarding it for having anything unique or #insightful to say. And in a Celtic languages context #this can be especially othering and almost fetishistic of an imagined pagan Ireland and Wales which was 'covered up' by Christianity #and that desire for people outside of Ireland and Wales to impose a kind of 'pagan faerie culture' onto the modern countries directly feeds #into false depictions of Ireland and Wales as 'lost in time' or as magical places full of latent pagan culture &c. which can be really #damaging in its own way against people who live in Wales or Ireland or who speak Welsh or Irish #this goes for other Celtic speaking nations too like Scotland Brittany Isle of Man and Cornwall #But Wales and Ireland tend to be the most focused on for this kind of treatment #luke's originals #Welsh #Wales #Cymblr #Irish #Ireland #welsh mythology #irish mythology #irish literature #welsh literature #Arthurian legends #arthurian literature

[deadunderorbit]

You know this scene in modern warfare II where Alejandro says "ehh I can't call Soap Johnny 😔" and Soap answers "Don't. Only Ghost can pull that off"

This scene in polish dubbing is so funny to me because somehow they kind of changed the meaning of this conversation (honestly most scenes in polish dubbing make me laugh)

In polish dubbing the literal translation would be

Ghost: "Johnny [...]"

Alejandro: "eh I WON'T call Soap "Johnny" 😡😤"

Soap: "Good 🙄. Only Ghost can say that"

In english dub Alejandro sounds like he's actually kinda disappointed that he can't call Soap "Johnny" like he knows it's reserved for Ghost (for some reason). But here he's just mad, and nobody even forces him to use this nickname so it doesn't make any sense. It's so silly I love them

and then Soap in eng dub says "Only Ghost can PULL THAT OFF" which suggests that nickname "Johnny" only sounds good? when Ghost says that and nobody else. Like this nickname only works if Ghost uses it.

But in polish dub he just says "Ghost is the only one allowed to say that 😇". Love him for that

I have love/hate relationship with this dubbing. I can't stand Soap's voice actor and at the same time I can't get enough of his voice. This is driving me crazy

#I have saved so many clips of polish mw2 dubbing #maybe I'll post some of them because I'm honestly curious what people outside of Poland think about it #cause from me and my friends it's so hard to watch #but you know maybe it's just because Im not used to it and it's my mother language and all that #cod mw2 #polish dub #call of duty #modern warfare II #soapghost #ghostsoap #john soap mactavish #simon ghost riley #cod soap #cod ghost

[bakustark]

Friendly reminder! Don’t make Namor speak Spanish in your fics. Yes, I know Aquapapi is played by Tenoch Huerta (y está buenísimo el hombre ik), but Namor’s native language is Yucatec Maya. Making him speak the language of the colonizers who killed his people for terms of endearment and playing it off as his first language is a bit insulting, I think.

#gremlin rambles #black panther 2 #wakanda forever #black panther wakanda forever #mcu namor #namor #k'uk'ulkan #black panther x reader #k'uk'ulkan x reader #namor x reader #tenoch huerta #let's be fr #he'd hate that #i've seen four of these where he calls the reader mi amor #stop it #written by a tired latino #it's fine if he speaks spanish or english or any other language to the people outside of talokan #but there's no reason for him to be calling the reader mi amor if the fic is in english and the reader is american or from wakanda #the only exceptions are if the reader is explicitly latino and the fic is in spanish

[canisalbus]

I just recently started following you so i don't have the full lore of your murderous gay religiously traumatized doggos, BUT, from my understanding, they are Italian and i don't know what part of Italy they are from, yet i can't help headcanoning Vasco as Tuscan, while Machete is probably from some part of Veneto. And as an Italian who has heard Tuscans and Veneto dialet, well it's an hilarious mental image.

Vasco is indeed Tuscan, Florentine to be specific. He comes from a wealthy and influential noble family that has lived in Florence for centuries. He's proud of his roots, and it's usually easy for strangers to tell where he's from. He's a resonably successful politician and has worked as an ambassador and representative of Florence on numerous occasions.

Machete is originally Sicilian (ironically about as far from Veneto as possible), although he was taken to mainland at young age and has lived in several places since then, before ending up in Rome. The way I see it, he exhibits very little local color, his demeanor and (even though Italian hadn't become a standardized language yet) way of speaking are formal, neutral and scarcely give away any hints about his personal history, at least in the 16th century canon.

#I tend to take the easy way out with the various Italian dialects/languages and temper their effect on how the dog world works #even though to my understanding in reality they differ drastically from each other even today and they aren't always mutually intelligible #especially when you compare northern and southern ones #I know at least Sicilian is so different from modern day Italian it's considered a separate language entirely #it isn't the only one but I'm not a linguist and not even Italian so I'm not really qualified to be explaining any of this to you #main point is that my dogs are well traveled educated and adaptable so I'd like to believe that they manage #otherwise making this whole scenario work would become very complicated #language barriers aplenty #Machete is a fast learner with a natural knack for languages so he absorbs/decodes new ones easily #and I can see him acting as an interpreter if necessary #which is a valuable trait for someone working as the secretary of state I'd imagine #a lot of people he ends up dealing with speak at least passable Latin so at a pinch they might perhaps try switching to that? #Vasco might have a Tuscan flavor but Machete is more of a blank slate (at least in public and at work) #answered #fallenoftheromaempire #feel free to correct me if I've gotten something wrong I'm not an expert and this stuff is complicated for an outsider

[dejwrld]

picture this, you’re a boy from guatemala standing outside a motel talking to your family on the phone until two cops approach you saying that you look suspicious. due to you barely knowing english, you most likely are confused as ever trying to figure out not only what they’re saying but what even is going on. the situation escalated even more to the point where these officers are now falsely detaining you which led to one officer having a heart attack and dying. now picture this, you’re now being charged with manslaughter for death of said officer.

that’s what happened to virgilio aguilar mendez.

please be sure to sign the petition also.

#to make matters worse he doesn’t speak Spanish #he speaks mam which is indigenous language spoken by some people in Guatemala #and i have also heard that it’s been hard for them to find an interpreter that speaks that #so they are trying to teach him english #bro this country is cooked ! #i swear cops don’t just mind their business #how is a person standing outside a motel on the phone with his fucking family #suspicious ?????

[uncanny-tranny]

What I think is so important to learning how to truly appreciate life is learning how to appreciate the creatures and things we've categorized as "disgusting" or "gross."

When I learned to appreciate wasps, I realized how much they just... don't really care about anything, and they're not trying to be an asshole because they're uniquely cruel. If they have any wants, it is to live. Why would I punish that when I also want to live?

This isn't to say you need to fall in love with the creepy crawlies that stalk this world or to love what you cannot, but to recognize that in their arrangement of atoms, they are trying to persevere, and in the end... aren't we all?

#positivity #bugs tw #this is why i think science is a love language btw #learning to love and appreciate through study is still love and appreciation #i've always been fine with bugs which might make this ring hollow to somebody with a phobia #and this isn't saying that people who are phobic of bugs are Evil or dumb (quite the opposite- humans are Good at fearing things) #what this is saying is find something you don't appreciate and learn about why you should appreciate it - for whatever reason #i learned to stop being neutral about bugs when i learned how cool they are - how they live! #i stopped being neutral about this planet when i learned how ancient it is! #i stopped being neutral about humans when i learned about how we lived and survived and loved! #i stopped being neutral about these things because i started to love them because i saw just how intricate EVERYTHING is #when you learn to see things through an appreciative lens you sometimes direct that viewpoint inward #so now instead of viewing myself as outside the universe i see myself and every little bug as PART of the universe #i stopped believing that i almost... wasn't worthy of being Part of Nature when i realized just how big everything is in the scale of it al #you should see my google searches omfg #everything is an argument and boy does this world have the ability to argue so well

[clannfearrunt]

btw, any update on shiver's japanese personal pronouns now that the full game is out? theres a tweet going around saying she uses both uchi and onore and that it's a feminine+masculine combo, i wanted to double check and see if that is actually the case or if onore is a common pronoun for women to use? people are getting really militant abt this for no reason (unsurprisingly)

I think I've seen that tweet, yeah, and it's wrong.

So to start this off so everyone knows what’s up: I’m a native Japanese speaker, and I’m nonbinary myself. I’m approaching this topic as someone who WOULD LOVE to have canon, intended, Cisn’t rep here.

However, the situation in regards to Shiver is just a misunderstanding of the... complexities and nuance (?) that comes with the myriad of ways people can refer to themself in Japanese, and there’s actually nothing being censored by NoA when they confirmed that she is intended to be female. As of me writing this (September 17th 2022), there has been no content in the Japanese dialogue that ever suggests that Shiver might be intended to be nonbinary or otherwise some flavor of Not Female.

Before I even get into pronouns I gotta point out that her Japanese name is Fuuka, which is a regular ass girl's name in real life (albeit it's also being used as a shark pun). I think that if they were going to put a canon nonbinary character in Splatoon they're going to be more obvious about it.

Anyhow, with regards to The Question: the instance that Shiver uses "onore" is actually in the Rock Paper Scissors splatfest dialogue, right here:

おのれの魂をコブシに宿し、天につき出すその姿... 勝者のポーズゆうたらコレや！

I always have a hard time doing my own translations because my brain gets caught up on a million different things, but one way I'd write this to try to get across how she's using "onore" as is this:

"Placing one’s soul into one’s fist, raising it towards the heavens... That's the pose of victory!"

It's true that "Onore" has seen some historical use as a personal pronoun, but it's an archaic kind of usage in standard Japanese. It's not actually necessarily masculine either. Now, it does still see relatively common usage in various dialects in western regions, but mostly in the second person. I don't think I've ever heard "Onore" being used as a personal pronoun in the way you'd use stuff like "Watashi" or "Boku" (which is the kind of usage it's being confused with in that tweet) these days, even when writing fictional character dialogue.

That's irrelevant here, however, because that's not how it's being used here! It's being used to refer to a generalized "self" for theatrical effect, and not even as a personal identifier really. I'd say in this case a similar comparison in English would be "oneself" - kinda formal, depending on how you use it it might also be including the speaker, but not explicitly Just The Speaker. Does that make sense?

The like... connotations and perceptions surrounding how one chooses to refer to themself in Japanese is really complicated and context dependent and I DO understand how it might be easy to get confused! I can also see how people learning Japanese as a second language might have extra trouble with Shiver's dialogue in general since she speaks in the Kyoto dialect instead of standard Japanese. Shit's hard! Anyways unfortunately this has been once again a misunderstanding sorry everyone. We can do other things in headcanons, but we can't be going after people or the translators for this.

...

On the subject of personal pronouns though FRYE uses "washi" which has been fun because that is not something typically used by young people! In dialects where it's still common for young people to use "Washi", it tends to be more commonly used by guys, but the more common association is with Old People. Frye in general just speaks like a stereotypical Old Person though I love her she's great. Where's the fucking Frye crowd at

#asks #theyrezi #splatoon 3 #splatoon #Shiver splatoon #Deep Cut #i had an hour long discussion with my mom mulling over how complicated and nuanced this shit is and how we kinda take it for granted #bc we have an intuitive understanding of The Connotations... but how do you explain that to people outside of our culture and language? #shit's hard! i aint a linguist! i don't have all the academic tools to ''properly'' dissect and communicate this shit #i keep trying to backpedal to downplay the nuance of The Pronouns Shit but every time i try 2 actually explain it i Remember #Squid 2 the evolution of the squid #dedcourse 2

[a-polite-melody]

“Trans men and mascs don’t get a special word because they aren’t oppressed specifically as men, since as men they reap benefits of patriarchy, because if there are two resumes on the table and one has the name Dave and the other Susan, and both happen to be trans, Dave will be hired over Susan, regardless of how his coworkers see his gender.”

a) You really think every transmasc has equal access to changing their name? You think every transmasc wants to take a name that is normative? If I apply for a job right now, it would still have to be under my legal name, which is the one my parents assigned me along with the gender I shed. It’s pretty cis-normatively female. Even if I changed my name, Enviri is not a name that would get me sorted into a pile with Daves and Joes.

b) You’re acting like there isn’t an interview process, where if you don’t pass, you definitely won’t be sorted into the Dave pile if your name is Dave but you can’t physically transition and so don’t pass as cis.

These sorts of statements rely on assuming that all transmascs are passing and stealth, and so gender-conforming. Or that society is actually good at viewing trans people as our actual gender if we aren’t those things.

Denying transmascs language based on the absolute most privileged of us that you can imagine does absolutely nothing. I’ve not gained an ounce of male privilege as a non-passing, GNC transmasc because it’s society that grants privilege, and society is still extremely hostile to ALL trans people, AND men who don’t conform ESPECIALLY if they’re trans and had been stealth, and society will still at this point remove all that privilege if trans status is known.

It’s petty as fuck to make up reasons to take down a word and conversation when it all comes back around to, “oh well, you don’t get a word because, uhm, we don’t think you should have one because it makes us feel less special about having our own word.” Fuck off.

#my post #transandrophobia #transmisandry #especially shitty seeing this from someone who used to support transmascs having our own language #apparently they ‘talked to other trans women on Twitter and realized where trans men had told them wrong things’ #or something like that #that’s. lovely #just. take other peoples words away because people on the outside can’t handle we have words #I don’t care #we deserve language

[blujayonthewing]

#I've played with irl atheists and catholics and everything in between #but it rarely feels like faith is a real factor for anyone-- DM or player #outside of‚ again‚ divine spellcasters and Big Epic Plot Things #I mean there are a couple of 'RAAAHGH FUCK THE GODS >:C' edgy backstory types but #no one is just Normally Culturally Religious and it's WEIRD #like it's not even a matter of faith in dnd! the gods are LITERALLY OBJECTIVELY PROVABLY REAL #so what does that MEAN for the average person! how does it shape language? business? culture? #where are the people wearing holy symbols like amulets-- or the way modern christians very casually wear crosses? #blessings over meals? prayers before bed? burnt offerings? #and like I enjoy thinking about world and culture building but I know that's A Whole Thing but even just like... #it doesn't feel like anyone believes in gods at all except clerics and paladins #like they DO because they factually exist but in the same way I 'believe in' like. the president of france. #like yeah he exists and is important to some people but has no bearing on my life whatsoever #that's such a fucking weird approach to the DIVINE in a polytheist world where those gods are YOUR CULTURE'S GODS?? #I am bad at this myself but I'm not religious so it's harder for me to remember what Being Religious All The Time Casually is like lol #funny enough my character with the most intentionally religious background in this sense #is one of my ones who's ended up wrapped up in Big Plot God Things lmao #'aubree starts the campaign with a holy symbol of yondalla because of course she does why wouldn't she' #'oh okay well she's gonna get deeply and personally entangled with a bunch of death gods immediately' fdkjghkdf oh!! welp #you don't really pray to urogalan unless you're breaking ground for a new building or someone just died so it's STILL weird for her lol #but at least I had the framework there of 'oh yeah the gods exist and matter to me and my everyday life and culture' in general #about me #posts from twitter

[gusujay]

Everyday goes a little something like this. I open tumblr and check the pathologic tag to find art because the vibe patho artists capture is exquisite.

I immediately see someone making fun of Daniil for having highly specific special interests that he likes talking about.

I ignore it and scroll further only to see another 5 posts calling him annoying for oh wait give me a second *rereads text posts making fun of Daniil* showing symptoms of autism.

I sigh like a depressed disappointed father. I close tumblr.

#pathologic #daniil dankovsky #making fun of him can be funny #I’ve definitely laughed at a joke at his expense more than once #but I constantly see him being ridiculed for doing things that are just blatant acts of neurodiversity #he wears specific clothes oh what a whiny spoiled city boy #he speaks a language he learned as a mandatory part of his medical education that god forbid he actually enjoyed and uses in his day to day #he’s so annoying #he doesn’t understand social cues and responds in a way that I find weird let’s all laugh #he responds to certain situations aggressively because of trauma oh what an evil bad man let’s not examine this any further #he’s just mean and that’s it #I’m so tired of seeing a character I love being mocked for the exact same things I’m mocked for in real life #he actually values sanitation and hygiene and reacts to unsanitary medical practices with sceptisim what a ignorant jerk #I know I sound bitter don’t worry I’m not oblivious to it #but I think some people saw the way the townsfolk reacted to Daniil and immediately assumed they’re all right #as if one of the main components of the game isn’t how the townsfolk are abrasive and rude to strangers and outsiders #some of you for real sound like a judgemental isolated inhabitant of the town that saw daniil and immediately decided he’s not welcome

[corfisers]

two weird things that happen to me more often than i'd like and feel like they are on the opposite ends of the same spectrum: forgetting that i do actually speak two languages and forgetting that some people who post here in english speak only english

#the latter is usually when there's some post on linguistics or just like?? a thing with eng being passed as universal??? #don't have any examples off the top of my head unfortunately #but sometimes you read a post and get this “oh you never had to grapple with concepts that are not applicable to your first language” feel #this isn't me trying to shame anyone who speaks one language btw you're fine as long as you're not being an asshole #to people who's eng isn't perfect or have some weirdly strong opinions on translation or languages in general #while not having any actual knowledge you know? #whatever idk how much sense i'm making #forgetting that i speak rus has more to do with how used i am to using eng. to the point that i mostly think in it #kinda sucks if i'm being honest? i'm rereading idiot and went to look up eng translation for a chapter because i wanted to post something #and augh it's not the same! it's not the same. might be just not the best translation fuck if i know but still #but yeah i barely use rus outside of talking to someone irl (rarely happens) or reading a book. it's weird #benvey tag

[nashvillethotchicken]

People will ask "why did lestat buy the Fairplay for louis? Does show!Louis not have his own money" as if 1: either Tom Anderson or the other one would sell it to him outright (they literally gave him horrific terms for a business deal in ep 1 because they wanted to take him down a peg) or 2: Lestat doesnt explicitly love spending money on Louis and what he wants

#louis has his own money he just want yo money #like i want us to remember. louis inherented a plantation. he sent his sister around europe all first class paid as a wedding gift #and didn't even blink! treated it like a stand mixer or some shit like #louis is rich. he drives a drop top car as a black man in 1910 #he regularly hangs out with the richest people in the city and he pays bills on his house and his mama house and his kid!! #he got it like that #the only thing keeping him from doing what he wants is racism catholic guilt and being an eldest child in a conservative black household #iwtv #interview with the vampire #louis de pointe du lac #ldpdl #loustat #iwtv 2022 #amc iwtv #even outside of louis having his own money lestat in canon loves spoiling louis and buys him whatever! #lestat literally says he can't say no to him in ep 2 like he love that man #lestats love language is balling out

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

The way I wanna learn so many silly hobbies!! Like I wanna be able to walk on my hands and contort and speak fictional languages, just so I can entertain people with a mystery bag of talents

But alas I am poor

no i know right. but. you do know that you don't have to pay to learn how to walk on your hands, right? or speak fictional languages? you should probably pay for a contortionist coach tho yeah

#many many hobbies... Dont need to be payed for #you can learn languages and skills #got printing paper? origami. got a pencil? fun fonts #birdwatching? go outside! there are online guides! #there are so many youtube guides and tutorials and tips and tricks and ideas- #Dont Trick Yourself Into Thinking You Can't Do Anything Without Paying First #this is why i hoard gift cards tbh #so that if there's a time where i really want to do something that requires Materials #i can buy what i need without paying #but seriously though. you can do a lot w/o needing money to get it done #can you do a handstand? you're halfway to walking on your hands already if yes #and if no - there are so many handstand tutorials! #rambles from the bog #juggling? get some eggs or small rocks or pet toys if you have em! #tape up crumpled paper balls! #DONT LET THE CAPITALISM LIFESTYLE FOOL YOU! MONEY IS NOT ALWAYS NECESSARY! #THE WORLD IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT #AND THERE ARE SO MANY KIND PEOPLE POSTING TUTORIALS AND GUIDES AND LINKS AND ALL! FOR! FREE!

[torahtot]

ok ive had enough of queering judaism. can we start judaizing queerness now. or something

#like. it feels like so much of this queering judaism shtus just layers an american/secular queer identity over judaism #which i guess is fine for certain communities. but it's only going to push you away from orthodoxy #and if as queer jews we already feel like our queerness makes us into secularized outsiders in our own communities #how does this help? is trying to get our communities to embrace an essentially secular american iteration of queer identity supposed to mak #us feel LESS like outsiders? it's not quite doing it for me #we need a queerness that comes from within judaism that is essentially jewish #ive seen a couple of articles recently from ppl talking abt how word/concept of butch doesnt exist in their language & culture #but they use it anyway #& like. i love being butch. it's important to me ill never give it up #& i am american too. but my whole identity as a butch he/him lesbian is exclusively secular american it came from the outsifr #which is definitely due in large part to the fact that my Gender Problems were really tied up w orthodox jewish gender roles #so naturally to get out of that i'd pull on something not jewish. but i wish there was another option? idk if that's possible #or how it would look #maybe that's why im obsessed w the idea of a butch w long curly payos.... 😦 #i forgot where i was going w this but yeah it's frustrating #this is a large part of why im wary of starting a queer Jewish club on campus bc the people who would wanna start it w mr #well no offense but they are insufferable about this #(incidentally they're also insufferable about chanukah. no surprises there) #nachi speaks #jew blogging #others have Actually written abt all this tho