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clannfearrunt · 2 years

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btw, any update on shiver's japanese personal pronouns now that the full game is out? theres a tweet going around saying she uses both uchi and onore and that it's a feminine+masculine combo, i wanted to double check and see if that is actually the case or if onore is a common pronoun for women to use? people are getting really militant abt this for no reason (unsurprisingly)

I think I've seen that tweet, yeah, and it's wrong.

So to start this off so everyone knows what’s up: I’m a native Japanese speaker, and I’m nonbinary myself. I’m approaching this topic as someone who WOULD LOVE to have canon, intended, Cisn’t rep here.

However, the situation in regards to Shiver is just a misunderstanding of the... complexities and nuance (?) that comes with the myriad of ways people can refer to themself in Japanese, and there’s actually nothing being censored by NoA when they confirmed that she is intended to be female. As of me writing this (September 17th 2022), there has been no content in the Japanese dialogue that ever suggests that Shiver might be intended to be nonbinary or otherwise some flavor of Not Female.

Before I even get into pronouns I gotta point out that her Japanese name is Fuuka, which is a regular ass girl's name in real life (albeit it's also being used as a shark pun). I think that if they were going to put a canon nonbinary character in Splatoon they're going to be more obvious about it.

Anyhow, with regards to The Question: the instance that Shiver uses "onore" is actually in the Rock Paper Scissors splatfest dialogue, right here:

おのれの魂をコブシに宿し、天につき出すその姿... 勝者のポーズゆうたらコレや！

I always have a hard time doing my own translations because my brain gets caught up on a million different things, but one way I'd write this to try to get across how she's using "onore" as is this:

"Placing one’s soul into one’s fist, raising it towards the heavens... That's the pose of victory!"

It's true that "Onore" has seen some historical use as a personal pronoun, but it's an archaic kind of usage in standard Japanese. It's not actually necessarily masculine either. Now, it does still see relatively common usage in various dialects in western regions, but mostly in the second person. I don't think I've ever heard "Onore" being used as a personal pronoun in the way you'd use stuff like "Watashi" or "Boku" (which is the kind of usage it's being confused with in that tweet) these days, even when writing fictional character dialogue.

That's irrelevant here, however, because that's not how it's being used here! It's being used to refer to a generalized "self" for theatrical effect, and not even as a personal identifier really. I'd say in this case a similar comparison in English would be "oneself" - kinda formal, depending on how you use it it might also be including the speaker, but not explicitly Just The Speaker. Does that make sense?

The like... connotations and perceptions surrounding how one chooses to refer to themself in Japanese is really complicated and context dependent and I DO understand how it might be easy to get confused! I can also see how people learning Japanese as a second language might have extra trouble with Shiver's dialogue in general since she speaks in the Kyoto dialect instead of standard Japanese. Shit's hard! Anyways unfortunately this has been once again a misunderstanding sorry everyone. We can do other things in headcanons, but we can't be going after people or the translators for this.

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On the subject of personal pronouns though FRYE uses "washi" which has been fun because that is not something typically used by young people! In dialects where it's still common for young people to use "Washi", it tends to be more commonly used by guys, but the more common association is with Old People. Frye in general just speaks like a stereotypical Old Person though I love her she's great. Where's the fucking Frye crowd at

#asks #theyrezi #splatoon 3 #splatoon #Shiver splatoon #Deep Cut #i had an hour long discussion with my mom mulling over how complicated and nuanced this shit is and how we kinda take it for granted #bc we have an intuitive understanding of The Connotations... but how do you explain that to people outside of our culture and language?#shit's hard! i aint a linguist! i don't have all the academic tools to ''properly'' dissect and communicate this shit #i keep trying to backpedal to downplay the nuance of The Pronouns Shit but every time i try 2 actually explain it i Remember #Squid 2 the evolution of the squid #dedcourse 2

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salmonruntips · 2 years

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Salmon Run Tip #0405

This one actually comes from the manual, but if you're a returning employee from Splatoon 2 (like we are), you might not've seen it (like we hadn't)! Only the geyser that has the Goldie in it will spawn Chum. The other geysers are all Chum-less, and instead, Chum will spawn from the sea. You can now feel free to open every single geyser on the map without fear of getting horribly splatted! Thanks to @theyrezi for pointing this one out for us, and for reminding us to hit the books!

#splatoon #splatoon 3 #salmon run #salmon run tips #video #tips #goldie geysers #theyrezi

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girlwiththegreenhat · 2 years

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swatch (tail: on) has disrespected the pottery and been very sad

Tail Waggies Incident In The Wing Filled Entirely With Pottery, 57 Dead 141 Injured (casualties are pottery)

#deltarune #swatch #ask #theyrezi #(they did not get fired queen thought it was funny and added it to her List Of Annoying Things She Makes Her Birds Do)#(*announcer voice* How Many Pots Can YOU Smash With Your Tail!)#((swatch remains the record holder))#doodles #liz blogs

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kristalpepsi · 2 years

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him.

OMG!!!!! SCOOPY BANOOPY FR!!!! i 4gt busnax extd alrdy sdFSDKJDFS IM SO SRRY KSJKJ omg,,,, hime,,, wow,e,,

#bugsnax #theyrezi #scoopy banoopy #fr....#ask

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chalkeater · 2 years

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TELL ME ALL ABT THE INFORMATION BESTIE (-kris)

BAHAHA It's actually more of.. an assortment of information stored in my brain. RANDOM STUFF AND THEORIES people have about source. Proof that Kris/you are your own person (It doesnt need to be said but having hard evidence means i can argue with people on the autonomy thing fr) more stuff about my dialogue plus the fact that you can compare the different languages deltarune and undertale come in and they still connect dots. i dont usually make this content though i mostly just reblog them.

actually we store all of it in @utdrmetastuff (NOT looking for followers there btw. its literally just a sideblog for our ut/dr fictives to reblog source META content on. as in theories, screenshots, dialogue discussions, sprite work, metanarratives, commentary, observations, comparisons ETC ETC. we just felt bad/awkward about spamming our blogs with source meta??? so we might as well store them allll in one place LOL. we also tag accordingly so like. be careful of certain route discussions/mentions there)

EDIT: also sometimes i dont think of just 1 thing about source. sometimes i see a meta post and im like. well now i have to consume everything i read or else ill die now huh

#ask #theyrezi #kris r #i guess i just didnt want people thinking im a fandom blog #(like in a singlet way)#so that blog is purely for interacting with the theory/observational side of the fandom #also yknow as a fictive i know its a little weird when people discuss me/my source so i wanna keep the deeper stuff off my blog #because it can be wild BAHAHA like.. yeah #heres a backstory to why we made that blog #hyperfixation is a BITCH!!!!!!!!!!

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thethrillof · 2 years

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hiyaaa bug goodmode sent me anyway (hands u kris deltarune and slides away)

got 'em

#theyrezi

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corruptimles · 2 years

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my favorite pokemon is celebi. i have a plush one that i got for my 8th birthday and her name is melody and shes best friends with my chikorita thyme (one of my other favorite pokes), but i do have a soft spot for the charmander line bc that was my first ever starter

and they were best friends! wonderful

(more answered asks below cut)

Wartotle has a very lovely design with the waves/clouds so it really is a shame it's disregarded like most mid evos 😔

backpack buddy :) it might not be the same but it'd be nice to have a life-size plush to carry around too

#talk to me tag #theyrezi #anoymous #fav pokemon obligation

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itswhattheycallyou · 2 years

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system link in your bio is broken btw

Oh no. Thanks. I fixed it just now

#ask #theyrezi

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doomhope · 2 years

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ooo my friend ooo

black mesa sweet voice.......

#theyrezi #asks

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beyondthetemples-ooc · 2 years

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lays my wing on u comfy

:>!!!

nestles in.

#rhs answered an ask #theyrezi #posts for the blackwinged blog

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incorrectdmp · 5 months

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Hailey: we have cranberry juice and every day i open the fridge and See It and every time i think about pouring a glass of it and pouring some fucking milk in it and go “hmmm tea”

Grace: ITS NOT HIBISCUS TEA???? it will curdle, I’m positive of this. milk would curdle in hibiscus tea too because of the acidity.

Hailey: AND YET every day i have to fight the urge to put some milk into some cranberry juice

Ezra: Crilk (cranberry milk)

Hailey: CRILK

Ezra: Try it

Hailey: CRILK WILL BE REAL IN RIGHT FUCKING NOW

Hailey: don’t do this don’t do this don’t do this don’t do this

#discord murder party #dmp #quote #incorrect quotes #ezra crane #hailey huang #source: Tumblr users the-meme-monarch theyrezi and wordwizards #grace garden #These three would be terrifying as roommates

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clannfearrunt · 2 years

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if its splatoon 3 soon does that mean ur gonna have to replace the squid 2 the evolution of the squid tag..... tragedy

nah it's fine the other source of that tag is this

and since natural selection has not weeded the squid 2's (inklings) out yet... the tag stays

#asks #theyrezi #im squid 2 the evolution of the squid. will natural selection weed me out only fate will tell #squid 2 the evolution of the squid

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salmonruntips · 2 years

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Salmon Run Tip #0416

Up on top of a Fish Stick? Don't forget you can throw your eggs down! Keep an eye on your ink tank, and on the rest of the map--if things are getting sticky out there, and you're not low on eggs for your quota, your time might better be spent elsewhere. But if it's early in the round or you really need those extra eggs, then it's a good idea to toss them down. This tip goes out to @theyrezi! Thanks again!

#splatoon #splatoon 3 #salmon run #salmon run tips #tip #video #bosses #fish stick #egg throw #theyrezi

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girlwiththegreenhat · 2 years

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holy shit that was so unexpectedly sweet and poignant... thank you. i have decided we will be more than passing strangers now. Come Here