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acemind3 · 8 months
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After watching tonight’s episode of Ahsoka, I still very much think Shin is gonna be working with Sabine, Ezra, and Ahsoka by the end. Maybe not fully turn light side, but at least befriend them.
She’s an absolute lost puppy right now and has a few options at this point:
1) She could try to find Baylan and who knows, if she does find him, maybe she’ll be mad at him for leaving her.
2) She could go back to Thrawn, but we already know she’s not too fond of the witches or Thrawn. And I don’t think Thrawn would take too much of a liking to her considering she’s trained in the Jedi ways and her master just disobeyed his orders.
3) She could mope for a bit and then go back to the good guys because she hates this planet and needs a ride out of this galaxy.
Regardless, I feel bad for Shin. She probably feels so alone. 😭
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byler-is-endgame7 · 8 months
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y’all i think thrawn’s army of stormtroopers might be undead soldiers resurrected by the nightsisters 👀
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abucketofweird · 8 months
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Okay now that I’ve screamed about Ezra and Sabine a little bit (you will be getting so much more later) I want to talk about Enoch
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First of all he looks very menacing and cool
I just thought it was really interesting that they used his name so much. It felt very emphasized to the point that it was stuck in my head.
But as soon as I noticed the name I was thinking about where it was from (please note for the following section I have never read The Book of Enoch, I am not familiar with pretty much any religion for that matter and all of this info comes from a very quick google search)
I personally think that Filoni might be using the Hebrew meaning of the name Enoch
“The name of Enoch (Hebrew: חֲנוֹךְ Ḥănōḵ) derives from the Hebrew root חנך (ḥ-n-ḵ), meaning to train, initiate, dedicate, inaugurate” -Wikipedia
From the little we have seen of him so far he is Thrawn’s right hand man and the sort of leader of the troopers. Which I would say is dedication to Thrawn.
I wanted to add some different things I’ve read about him from other religions below the cut
Source: Wikipedia
“(The Book of Enoch) recounts how Enoch was taken up to Heaven and was appointed guardian of all the celestial treasures, chief of the archangels, and the immediate attendant on the Throne of God. He was subsequently taught all secrets and mysteries and, with all the angels at his back, fulfils of his own accord whatever comes out of the mouth of God, executing His decrees.”
“with the origin of writing and other technical arts of civilization, 371 including the study of astronomical phenomena, both of which Enoch is credited with in the Testament of Abraham.”
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“Enoch is the pinnacle of this higher nature awareness. We could even say that Enoch is the ultimate symbol of Christ consciousness in the Old Testament.”
“Enoch is seventh in the line from Adam. As you may already know, seven is the number of fullness and completion. As we'll see in a moment, with Enoch it symbolizes the fullness and completion of GOD'S REVELATION! So seven generations after the fall from grace we have a symbolic spiritual resurrection in Enoch!”
“Enoch represents the mind of someone who has walked the spiritual path and attained enlightenment because he became one with God. We could also say that Enoch is the embodiment of the complete revelation of God in man.”
“The story of Enoch is symbolic in the true esoteric sense, and it was written to teach you about something wonderfully housed by the physical body!”
“Think as nothing as no-thing! Raw spirit or consciousness is truly no-thing. It is infinite, yet it has no definitive location. It certainly cannot be explained by thought or ideas, but it can be experienced. When the conscious observer truly realizes that all matter and form arise from one's thoughts, then you become aware of the higher nature of the self, which is non-physical and immortal. Upon this realization the path to spiritual enlightenment has begun. Enoch has realized this so completely that he symbolically becomes the higher self which is NOT a thing (the illusion of the physical body and the physical world), but rather that he is a spirit having a limited, conscious physical experience. In essence, Enoch symbolizes one who has completely crucified the ego as Christ symbolically did on the cross at Golgotha” -Talking about the next quote:
“And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.” -Genesis 5:23-24
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melanie-ohara · 4 months
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In The Woods Somewhere - Chapter 2
Whumpuary2024, Day 06 - Prompt: Used as Bait
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Sabine faces off against the bandit leader in a last ditch attempt to save her mortal enemy...
This one contains a lot of Making Stuff Up about those Peridean bandits, so one day it'll probably stop being canon compliant
AO3 here
Three hours earlier....
Shin's tent was cold, and she rubbed her balled fists against her chest to warm herself up as she crossed from her bunk to the wash basin. Behind her, she heard the flap open as Feldspar, the leader of the bandits, entered without asking. Shin ignored him for a moment and instead looked at her own face in the cracked mirror. She looked pale and tired, but that was no surprise. The last of her eyeliner was smudged and barely visible around her eyes. She considered using charcoal from the burnt-out fire but no matter how naked she felt without her warpaint, it made her skin itch after a few hours. 
"Sister," Feldspar prompted, and Shin forced herself not to grimace. These men were descendents of the original Nightbrothers, and they were nothing like the zabrak colony that still existed on Dathomir: Shin had spent long enough around Morgan Elsbeth to know they were more like the witches of old. When she had first come to them, they had mistaken her ashen skin and pale hair for a Nightsister's, and she had never tried to correct them. It suited her purposes, but pretending to be a witch sickened her.
"Feldspar," she greeted coldly, without looking around. 
The men had lost - or maybe never had - the ritual knowledge of their sisters, but they had an instinctive connection to the living Force Shin could barely comprehend, let alone match. Their ability to predict had led them to their quarry without fail, but their empathic telepathy was less helpful: Shin had to seal her mind from them to avoid giving herself away.
"Our enemies are near," Feldspar said. His voice slithered like rats over a corpse. "They threaten balance, and we must strike them down."
Shin had never been able to determine if that phrase meant that the Jedi and her pet Mandalorian threatened to destroy something the bandits protected, or threatened to bring balance to chaos. Peridea made no sense to her, not since Baylan had abandoned her to it and struck out on his own.
She shook her head. "My former Master is a greater threat now." Shin dipped her head and splashed cold water over her face. It washed off the last of her makeup, and she frowned at how young her reflection looked. How small. 
Feldspar moved closer, until Shin could see him in the mirror. He wasn't wearing his helmet, and his grey skin and lipless mouth full of rows of spiked teeth were off-putting so early in the morning. 
"We have the opportunity to end your Jedi now," he hissed insistently. 
Shin tilted her head forwards a little to examine the dark roots of her hair. Before she could stop herself, she wondered if the purple-haired Mandalorian had any bleach.
Feldspar stepped into her personal space and came close to her ear. "Perhaps you can take it from her once she's dead ," he said, and Shin winced. Feldspar would have felt the curiosity in the thought, and the distinct lack of malice she held for Sabine Wren. 
She turned to fix his sharp silver eyes with the hardest glare she could muster. "Fine," she said. "Prepare a war party." 
Feldspar nodded and left, and Shin was overwhelmed by a crushing sense of foreboding.
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Shin walked at the head of the formation, a step behind Feldspar. The bandits travelled in a loose group that looked random and disorganised at first glance, but was carefully calculated to maximise sightlines. The forest closed in around them, and Shin couldn't see far into the darkness around them. The Nightbrothers eyes' were better adapted to the dark and she was forced to rely on them to navigate. The feeling that had struck her in the tent had only grown the further they'd gone, and now it was balled up in her chest like a secret she could barely keep. 
"Hold," Feldspar whispered. His voice was barely audible to Shin but the others all stopped, no matter how distant they were. Feldspar's eyes were closed against a vision - Shin could tell from the pale wisps of green smoke that flitted out from under his eyelids. "Here," he said, after a moment. "Scatter."
With a rustle of parting undergrowth, the bandits vanished into the darkness. 
"We've tried an ambush before," Shin pointed out. It was cold and dark and the anxiety was making her irritable. Baylan would have chided her for being unfocused. She wished she couldn't think like him.
"Not with bait," Feldspar said, and Shin's lightsaber was in her hand and ignited before she had even processed the thought screaming in her head. The Nightbrother was ready for her though, and grabbed her wrist in a crushing grip, forcing the blade out and away. "I am sorry, Sister," he said, and a white heat filled Shin's stomach as his blade forced its way inside. "But a bird will fly to a dying wolf."
Shin coughed. It didn't hurt, not yet. She knew it would, once the shock had passed and her brain caught up with her body, but she had a few seconds to bring up her free hand and hurl Feldspar into a tree hard enough to break his neck. Her arm refused to obey her. She glanced down and saw the cursed green tendrils of witch magic curled around the blade. She couldn't even spit in his face as he yanked the blade free and shoved her down to the ground. Pain battled with fury and hate as Feldspar reached down to pick her lightsaber up from where it had fallen.
Now....
Sabine grabbed her helmet from Shin's side and put it back on, turning as she got back to her feet to face the bandit leader stepping out of the shadows. The familiar sound of Shin's lightsaber igniting pierced the air and the orange light glittered in the rain as he advanced on her slowly.
"That doesn't belong to you," Sabine told him as she unhooked her only lightsaber and switched it on. She had barely found her guard position when the bandit surged forwards faster than Sabine thought possible and struck for her head. She twitched her hands up to block his strike and tried to use the pull of the blades to open his guard. The bandit yanked Shin's blade free of the lock and stabbed forwards, forcing Sabine to hop back a step and swing her lightsaber down and out in a weak block that opened up her left side. She struck out to get some breathing room, but it was wide and predictable and he easily countered. 
This was bad. 
The bandit was forcing her back, step by step, as each of his strikes forced her into a stance that gave him an opening to attack again. Before she could even hope to find an opening, the bandit leader forced her lightsaber out of the way and lined up a shot that would take her head. Sabine tried to lift her left hand to take the blade on her vambrace, but she knew before she moved it would be too late. 
Or it would have been, if the bandit's lightsaber hadn't stuck in the air like it had hit a rayshield. 
Stunned, Sabine stared at Shin. The fight had pushed her back past her prone form until she was behind the bandit leader, only now she was sitting up and reaching out, clamping the Force tight around her own lightsaber blade and holding it in place. 
Her face was contorted with agony as her other hand gripped at her guts. "Kill him!" she screamed.
Rallying, Sabine swung her lightsaber down to slice through his wrist. Shin's hilt dropped from his severed hand and before he could even scream Sabine raised her foot and booted him hard enough in the chest to send him sprawling into the mud. Before she could move back to Shin, blaster fire erupted out of the trees around her. Sabine managed to catch a few bolts with her blade before they started to impact her beskar. Her visor glowed with red and orange cutting sizzling paths through the rain and within seconds she was overwhelmed. She dropped her lightsaber as she dropped to her knees, just managing to wrap her forearms around her abdomen below the protection of her chestplate. She knew it wouldn't be long before one of their shots found a gap - and even if they didn't, beskar wouldn't hold up forever. Eventually the steel would collapse, and she would die. She glanced over at Shin, and through the blur of colour she saw that she was out cold. 
"I'm sorry," she whispered, and closed her eyes.
She felt the rush of the Force moving around her before she saw what was happening. Ahsoka, resplendent in her bright white robes, landed between her and the blaster fire. Her saber erupted into life and whirled in a tightly controlled circle, deflecting bolts into the trees. Sabine's lightsaber shot off the ground by her knee and into Ahsoka's free hand.
"Go!" her Master shouted back at her. "Get her to Huyang!"
Sabine stared for a half-second as Ahsoka started advancing, a tornado made of light swirling around her and turning the rain to steam. She shook herself and grabbed a blaster in one hand as she ran, bent low, to Shin's side. She was still breathing, but barely, and Sabine scooped her into her arms as gently as she could with blaster bolts churning up the mud around them. She wrapped one arm around Shin's back and supported her knees with her other forearm, keeping her blaster gripped tightly as she stumbled back the way she had come. 
She couldn't protect Shin like this, and her heart was in her throat the entire desperate sprint towards the sunlight bleeding through the edge of the forest. She nearly fell twice, and forced herself to slow down a little. Behind her, she could still hear Ahsoka fighting the bandits back, and wished she could turn back and help her. Shin, her mortal enemy, needed her more than her ally now, though, so she pressed on. 
Relief almost made Sabine scream: Mirshko was waiting for them, already kneeling so they could clamber on. Ahsoka must have brought him when she followed her. Sabine lifted Shin onto Mirshko's back, dimly aware of how light she was compared to the last time they had tangled before she forced thoughts about how malnourished the other woman was out of her head. Gaping stomach wound first, she thought as she swung her leg over Mirshko's back and clicked her tongue. He rose to his feet under her as she wrapped her arms around Shin's waist to keep her close, and then kicked her heels into the Howler's flank. They left the battle behind, and sprinted towards the T6. 
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Shin woke slowly and painfully. Her insides were on fire and her head throbbed at the over-bright ceiling lights. Panic set in when she didn't recognise the room she was in, and she tried to cry out through a parched and scratched throat. All she managed was a hoarse grunt, but it got the attention of whoever was in the room with her.
"Lady Hati," a blurry grey and white shape said, in a voice that Shin guessed was meant to be soothing. "Please relax."
Shin tried to reach out and crush it with the Force, but her arms were bound to the bed and no amount of straining would break their hold, not while she was so weak. She screamed again, and this time managed a cracked and broken howl. 
"The bindings are for your own safety, as well as mine," the droid explained. "Lady Wren extends her apologies. In fact, perhaps I should fetch her."
Shin barely heard the droid, and ignored the sound of the door opening and closing, focusing instead on blinking her eyes into focus. Once she could see, she could block out the pain, and once she could block out the pain, she could escape her bindings, and then she could slaughter her way out. 
She shook her head as her vision cleared, and a smudge of colour caught her eye. On the wall by the bed, someone had drawn a lothcat. She recognised it from the first time she had met Sabine Wren, underneath that transmission tower so long ago. So far away. The drawing was close to where her hands were bound, and she could just trace the edges of them with one of her fingers if she stretched it. It was the Mandalorian's handiwork, that was clear, and she realised with a strange spike of a feeling she had no name for that she was lying in her bed. She remembered Feldspar spearing her and leaving her for dead. She remembered Sabine. She had stared up into her warm brown eyes as rainwater ran down out of her hair and wondered how she had ever wanted to kill her. 
"Shin?" 
It was her. She didn't need to turn her head to know, though she had never heard her voice strain that way before. She didn't know what she could possibly say and kept her eyes fixed on the lothcat drawing on the wall rather than face those eyes again. 
Sabine looked down at her. Without a bacta tank, Huyang had assured her his surgery skills could save her life and banished her from her own room while he knitted her back together. Shin looked so weak it was hard to believe she could ever be dangerous. Sabine knew she was, even now, tied down and wracked by pain, but it didn't stop her. She pulled the desk chair over from the other side of the room and sat down at Shin's side.
"I'm going to stay here," she said softly, when Shin still refused to take her eyes off the little drawing of Murley on the wall. Cautiously, she rested her hand on Shin's wrist. It reminded her of the way Shin had led her around on Elsbeth's ship when she was a prisoner, and hoped Shin would be able to take something of the same strange comfort she had felt from her then. 
After a long moment, Shin nodded.
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auntie-venom · 10 months
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Oh me? Full on spiraling after realizing that we could finally get our fully fleshed-out live action Captain Rex in the Ahsoka series, only for him to die of old age.
It’s all I want for him, he deserves a full life.
But Christ, I do not think I am gonna handle it well.
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kae--art · 8 months
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So you know how Ezra from a different world pulled Ahsoka into the world between words to save her from Darth Vader in Rebels? What if this time, after she fell off the cliff, Anakin from a different world pulled her through to save her from that?
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brazenraccoon · 8 months
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What if the way we get live action Kanan is when Ezra meets Jacen?
Ezra's instinct upon meeting Jacen is to tell him he knew his father just as Ryder had for him about his parents back in Rebels. All because Ezra knows what it's like being without parents and not knowing why or how it happened and so he wants Jacen to not feel as he did. He bonds with Jacen by telling him stories about Kanan, that we get flashbacks of, and what it was like being taught by him to be a jedi. And that's what makes Hera finally okay with Jacen becoming a jedi as Ezra's padawan.
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zoeinflowers · 9 months
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What if Sabine tells Ezra, "Just wait till you meet Jacen!" But first Ezra is a little jealous and confused about someone added to the team. Knowing he'll have to impress someone new. And asking what this guy's relationship is to Sabine. And when he arrives home it's baby Jacen, who already adores him. And Ezra melts in awe!
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Midichlorian count and universal Force aptitude are not mutually exclusive!
Midichlorian count and universal Force aptitude are not mutually exclusive!
I think that the current canon material in SW clearly shows that nature and nurture have equal part to play in if and HOW someone manipulates the force.
One of the best examples is young Leia in Obi-Wan. Genetic daughter of the chosen one who was most known for being a powerful Jedi (well, until...), but she was raised by Republic loyalists who worked with the Jedi, and wanted her to be mindful of everything around her. She spent her years running off into the forest and being kind to others. And also being rude (versatile queen)
Perhaps Leia's most well known trait is her snippy attitude, which manifested when she was very young as giving targeted comments when she saw fit to establish herself as smart and formidable. we then see her in Rebels threatening someone's job to throw suspicion off the Ghost crew. as early as 4/5/??? years old, she seems, at least to me, to be using Jedi telepathy. Especially since this is shown in the same scene as the "lower life forms" debate, she's making connections with everyone around her through the force, which is how she is sensing their intentions.
Does her upbringing and personality play a key role in how and why she uses her abilities? YES! ABSOLUTELY!
Is the fact she picked it up so easily inherited from Anakin, who got clocked by other Jedi in less than a day with zero training? PROBABLY!
Sabine would not the first time within the currently canon timeline that we see someone use the Force without being genetically predisposed. In Rogue One, Chirrut senses blaster bolts and people's intentions to dodge like Ahsoka can, and it's been a while since I've seen it but isn't he implied to sense others' living Force to see where they are? And yet he never uses telekinesis or receives a kyber crystal.
On the other hand, maybe both Chirrut and Sabine ARE Force sensitive, but just as Chirrut uses only his senses rather than manipulating the Force, just as Leia does the same before training, Sabine can't sense or use it because she was brought up with different values despite having potentially been born Force sensitive! Both when Kanan trains her on the Darsaber and when Ahsoka debates training Sabine as Jedi, Hera points out that she is Mandalorian, saying that's why she clashes with her trainers.
Even Luke had similar difficulties in the beginning, despite having obviously been born with his abilities based on the hitting-a-womp-rat comment in A New Hope. In fact, a variation of the same excersize is used to open Luke and Sabine to their senses though Sabine briefly employs a dark side technique
Huyang then says Sabine shows little aptitude for the Force, but he also encourages her to train with Ahsoka, even though she focuses on the former comment. If this comment WAS about natural talent versus ability to learn, it should prove that BOTH are true in canon! One can be born able to move things out see into your mind, but anyone else can still find the Force because they are connected to it.
Huyang then says Sabine shows little aptitude for the Force, but he also encourages her to train with Ahsoka, even though she focuses on the former comment. If this comment WAS about natural talent versus ability to learn, it should prove that BOTH are true in canon! One can be born able to move things out see into your mind, but anyone else can still find the Force because they are connected to it.
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byler-is-endgame7 · 8 months
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THEY GOT REUNITED!!!!!
THEYRE HAPPY AND SMILING AND LAUGHING AND IM CRYING OVER HERE HELP
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cuntyfieddemon · 8 months
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here's my prediction for the next episodes: we will see thrawn before we see ezra
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my-autism-adhd-blog · 8 months
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mandojediblogger · 2 years
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More on J. R. R. Tolkien’s influence on the Filoniverse: @sidesofmayo
Runes!
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Enemies reconciled to become friends: Legolas & Gimli and Zeb & Kallus.
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We have heard tell that Legolas took Gimli Gloin's son with him because of their great friendship, greater than any that has been between Elf and Dwarf. If this is true, then it is strange indeed: that a Dwarf should be willing to leave Middle-earth for any love, or that the Eldar should receive him, or that the Lords of the West should permit it.
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'Tell me,' he said, 'is there any hope? For Frodo, I mean; or at least mostly for Frodo.'
Gandalf put his hand on Pippin's head. 'There never was much hope,' he answered. 'Just a fool's hope, as I have been told...”
Rebels Season 4 Episode 14 is entitled “A Fool’s Hope.”
“I think a servant of the enemy would look fairer and feel fouler.
-Frodo Baggins”
Palpatine’s appearance to Ezra:
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angelbeni · 1 year
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AHSOKA TRAILER JUST DROPPED AND
I have so many questions and a full theory but omg I’m so exciteddd
-How much of the Heir to the empire saga are we getting?
-Could the white haired girl be Mara/play Mara’s role?
-Could the sith be Jorrus?
-Is the Rebels cast replacing the Skywalkers here?
-we should get some Skywalkers at some point though
-Also, how come Thrawn is ok and ready to fuck shit up but Ezra is NOWHERE to be seen?!
-Ezra better be ok riding his space whales or I’m rioting
-If we’re getting the ghost crew back, baby Jacen can’t be too far away omg
-IF platinum blondie is a sort of Mara, and Luke is nowhere to be seen, are we setting her up with Ezra?
-I’m definitely rooting for Ezra and Sabine to be the end game BUT I love getting drama too lol
-Is Ashoka the new Skywalker getting a girlfriend?!
-though I don’t want to parallel too much to the legends trilogy, I’m sure Filoni will surprise us with many new things we won’t ever come up with
-According to new canon, Thrawn is with the empire because he wants them to be possible allies to the Chiss, so why help the empire after the emperor’s long gone?
-wait for it
-CLONING AND MIDICLORIAN ENHACEMENT
-So it’s probably not Moff Gideon pulling the strings but Thrawn
-With the force sensitive Chiss children being more and more rare to find, this would be the best solution for their navigators problems
-Also connecting with The Bad batch, I’m hoping we eventually blow up Mount Tantiss because clones deserve that much
-But Mount Tantiss WAS the OG cloning facility in Heir to the empire, so why would Filoni give it away so early in the story?
-To relocate and restart all cloning experiments in whatever nightmare sith planet we saw back in Rise of Skywalker, thus giving finally some more solid ground to the new trilogy
That’s about all my thoughts so far
Any other theories guys? I’d love to compare what we got
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mapleleafsunset · 9 months
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I'm so very aware that marrok isn't barriss offee. I know logically the stunt man doesn't fit her body shape at all, and that he's been referred to with mainly masculine pronouns so there's basically no chance.
HOWEVER i am still holding out some sort of hope. I love barriss so much and her return in this way would be perfect. I've seen some talk of "oh why would she be an inquisitor" but to me it would be perfect- she despised the way the Jedi functioned in the end and she was still young enough to be impressionable and perhaps taken under the wing of the empire. Even if we don't see her in Ahsoka as Marrok or another character I'm still going to believe that post Clone Wars she became an inquisitor- even if we never see this in canon.
mainly i don't want the marrok reveal to introduce starkiller into the canon outside of the games. I'm sure he's a really cool character, but with the amount of talk about how overpowered he is I think that people would just get annoyed about how they have to tone down his abilities in order to fit him into the story. He can't be unbeatable because he's the antagonist- and I think that would annoy some fans in its inaccuracy.
my personal theory is that marrok is one of the jedi younglings in clone wars- most possibly petro
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skydalorian · 9 months
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Sharing a thought I had in a reply regarding Sabine being force-sensitive and that being an unnecessary retcon that offends the drama and development of her journey with the Darksaber:
"I hold out hope that they used "aptitude" (quoted from Huyang) deliberately here; she's not especially sensitive to it, but she meshes well with it and has a bent toward acting according to its whims and walking its lines, even if it can't speak with her or show her the connectors that otherwise sensitive folks can see."
"Tldr she's on its wavelength even moreso than most, even if she doesn't have the tools to project it to her senses like a Jedi would."
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