Midichlorian count and universal Force aptitude are not mutually exclusive!
Midichlorian count and universal Force aptitude are not mutually exclusive!
I think that the current canon material in SW clearly shows that nature and nurture have equal part to play in if and HOW someone manipulates the force.
One of the best examples is young Leia in Obi-Wan. Genetic daughter of the chosen one who was most known for being a powerful Jedi (well, until...), but she was raised by Republic loyalists who worked with the Jedi, and wanted her to be mindful of everything around her. She spent her years running off into the forest and being kind to others. And also being rude (versatile queen)
Perhaps Leia's most well known trait is her snippy attitude, which manifested when she was very young as giving targeted comments when she saw fit to establish herself as smart and formidable. we then see her in Rebels threatening someone's job to throw suspicion off the Ghost crew. as early as 4/5/??? years old, she seems, at least to me, to be using Jedi telepathy. Especially since this is shown in the same scene as the "lower life forms" debate, she's making connections with everyone around her through the force, which is how she is sensing their intentions.
Does her upbringing and personality play a key role in how and why she uses her abilities? YES! ABSOLUTELY!
Is the fact she picked it up so easily inherited from Anakin, who got clocked by other Jedi in less than a day with zero training? PROBABLY!
Sabine would not the first time within the currently canon timeline that we see someone use the Force without being genetically predisposed. In Rogue One, Chirrut senses blaster bolts and people's intentions to dodge like Ahsoka can, and it's been a while since I've seen it but isn't he implied to sense others' living Force to see where they are? And yet he never uses telekinesis or receives a kyber crystal.
On the other hand, maybe both Chirrut and Sabine ARE Force sensitive, but just as Chirrut uses only his senses rather than manipulating the Force, just as Leia does the same before training, Sabine can't sense or use it because she was brought up with different values despite having potentially been born Force sensitive! Both when Kanan trains her on the Darsaber and when Ahsoka debates training Sabine as Jedi, Hera points out that she is Mandalorian, saying that's why she clashes with her trainers.
Even Luke had similar difficulties in the beginning, despite having obviously been born with his abilities based on the hitting-a-womp-rat comment in A New Hope. In fact, a variation of the same excersize is used to open Luke and Sabine to their senses though Sabine briefly employs a dark side technique
Huyang then says Sabine shows little aptitude for the Force, but he also encourages her to train with Ahsoka, even though she focuses on the former comment. If this comment WAS about natural talent versus ability to learn, it should prove that BOTH are true in canon! One can be born able to move things out see into your mind, but anyone else can still find the Force because they are connected to it.
Huyang then says Sabine shows little aptitude for the Force, but he also encourages her to train with Ahsoka, even though she focuses on the former comment. If this comment WAS about natural talent versus ability to learn, it should prove that BOTH are true in canon! One can be born able to move things out see into your mind, but anyone else can still find the Force because they are connected to it.
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Ahsoka grins, joy light and feral-feeling in her chest, heart fluttering like a bird of prey that nips at her ribs inside in a tickling sort of way. She can still feel the fatigue of the hospital clinging to her, but it’s distant — almost forgettable. The sight in front of her wipes it away cleanly, and she throws her arm up, leaning out despite the winds and the fiercely setting sun urging her back into the train compartment.
Running alongside on the station platform at speeds unsafe and inhuman, the 501st battalion waves back wildly (or in some cases throws hands rudely, grinning with all their teeth).
“Welcome back, commander!”
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Thinking about how Ahsoka didn't train Grogu because she believed his attachment made him vulnerable to the dark side.
Thinking about how Anakin believed he'd lost everyone he cared about.
Thinking about how Sabine thought Ahsoka had died and joined Baylan for the chance to find Ezra.
Thinking about how Ahsoka stopped her from training right when she found out Sabine might lose her family. How it contributed to that coming true same as Padmé's death and how Sabine had to lose Ahsoka on top of it.
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Okay, two weeks to go, putting my cards on the table: there is no way in hell that Barriss is going to be an Inquisitor. That's not what this is. Everyone’s taking for granted that because the trailer sets up her training as an Inquisitor that means that we’re seeing a corruption arc for her, but just. Look at her. There is not a single frame of this trailer where she is not visibly looking for the exit. There is not a single frame of this trailer where she isn’t either visibly masking what she’s feeling or just looking determined to survive. This isn’t a start of darkness; it’s Ahsoka getting hunted for sport in Padawan Lost.
We aren’t doing the “we’re setting Barriss up as an Inquisitor so we can give her a redemption arc later” scenario. This is the redemption arc, this is her facing an in-universe attempt to force her into the fanon Inquisitor!Barriss mold that she doesn’t fit into at all, and she’s going to prove it and she’s going to outsmart all of these actual fallen Jedi she’s surrounded by who are trying to make her be like them. When Order 66 happened, Barriss was sitting defenseless in a cell and was offered a series of choices that weren’t real choices. But she knows that, she is not buying into it, and that offers her one, incredibly dangerous route to freedom: convincing them to trust her enough to send her into the field with a lightsaber.
It’s going to be rough, it’s going to be an incredibly dangerous, difficult path for her to navigate—they will make her do some messed up stuff to prove herself and for a moment it might look like she's given into despair—but she’s going to come out the other end of this miniseries having rejected both the Empire and the dark side. Not only as a Jedi in every way that matters but also as someone who is equipped with knowledge of how the Inquisitorius operates, which she can use to save as many people as she can from them—because she knows what happens when they take you alive.
And she's going to do it all onscreen in a story that is about her, she is the main protagonist here, and that is frankly something that was beyond my wildest dreams.
This isn’t wishful thinking on my part, this isn’t me trying to do a preemptive rewrite—this is me looking at what’s onscreen in this trailer, at what they’re telling us, at what they’re not telling us, and seeing the story laid out in front of us.
The only way out is through.
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No one ever tells Obi-Wan that he is his Master's padawan.
Of course, for most people who had known Qui-Gon Jinn, telling someone else they resembled the the man would in fact be a thinly veiled insult. But still, Obi-Wan feels the absence of comparisons almost as strongly as he feels the absence of his Master.
There is no one for Obi-Wan to push against now, no strong presence at his side, ready to grab him by scruff and pull him back from another reckless stunt. It's an odd feeling. He has been set loose against his wishes. There is no one to his left and Anakin at his heels, but Anakin had needed, still needs, a strong, gentle figure for his prickly but sensitive heart. For even their worst bickering could not hold a candle to the scathing remarks he and Qui-Gon had shot at each other and Obi-Wan knows he cannot push and needle Anakin in the same way.
When Qui-Gon had been alive they had been an amusing, mirrored pair, the maverick and his rule-following padawan. Opposites clashing against each other, yet working together to complete the most difficult missions. Few saw that Qui-Gon's impertinence had indeed rubbed off on his padawan, cultivated from that small, angry initiate, because the only way to rebel against the rule-breaker had been to parrot the Council fastidiously. No one would ever get to see that again. Obi-Wan is one half of a mirrored pair trying to complete a routine on his own. What once was an impish, teasing compliance is now a betrayal of all his Master's values.
"How could Qui-Gon raise such a model Jedi?" He hears them say, "It's admirable that Master Kenobi was appointed to the Council despite his Master's maverick ways."
Padawan Kenobi would have yelled and kicked and screamed. Master Kenobi is serene. It should feel like an achievement. It feels like a disappointment.
Sometimes, Obi-Wan looks at the shape of the man he has moulded himself into, and aches to be his Master's padawan.
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