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daisy-mooon · 6 months
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Behind the jokes and badassness, Captain Marvel is a fascinating character to me, because of how death follows her.
She causes an explosion. That explosion, which gives her powers and her immortality, canonically kills her. The Kree Empire resurrects her and makes her as Kree as they can. She shares Yon-Rogg's blood and his life, she's his creation, she's his victim, she's the one who causes his downfall, she's the one that destroys the system, the society, the planet that allowed her to be abused.
It's the Kree that see her as a killer and Annihilator. She's a monster of their own making, but it influences every species and planet she touches. Her victories cause death and her mistakes cause more death. Carol's triumph, the death of the Supreme Intelligence, results in the death of probably millions of Kree, and by consequence, almost causes the death of Hala's star.
"I'm only human" Carol says, before killing the Empire that is the reason that she can't ever be human again.
"We'll be back for the weapon," Ronan says, but that weapon will kill everything he stands for.
"Your life began the day it nearly ended," The Supreme Intelligence says, coldly, calculatingly. It's an AI. It doesn't have a good concept of death. It doesn't fully grasp that Carol had genuinely been killed that day, because she's still in front of it. Carol kills it.
"Death seems to follow you," Dar-Benn says, before she causes an explosion with the bangles, trying to defeat Carol. The explosion kills Dar-Benn.
Death follows Carol. Death follows Carol! Mar-Vell is dead. Maria is dead. Talos is dead. Soren is dead. Ronan is dead. Minn-Erva is dead. Korath is dead. Dar-Benn is dead. Yon-Rogg is, probably, dead. The Supreme Intelligence is dead. Natasha is dead. Tony is dead.
The only people in Carol's life who aren't dead are Kamala, Monica, Yan, Valkyrie, and Fury.
She watches helplessly as Dar-Benn almost murders Kamala after Kamala tries to save Dar-Benn's life, tries to find a way to solve the violence without death.
She watches helplessly as Monica gets torn into another reality, which for all she knows, she could die in. The tear in reality that was caused by Dar-Benn's death.
She tries to hide Yan's existence from her friends and tries to warn him and his people. The Kree soldiers aren't fighting to maim, they're fighting to kill. He escapes death by his own fighting skills and the fact that the Kree would rather focus on killing Carol than him.
Valkyrie and Carol interact once, and she only calls when she needs help after a fight, not during. Think about it. Valkyrie and the Bifrost could have helped the trio enormously. But Carol doesn't call until the fights are over. It would be very easy for a regular Asgardian warrior to die compared to superhumans.
And Fury... have you seen how often Fury comes close to dying? He's alive from skill and luck. He is lucky that he isn't dead.
Captain Marvel is so, so fascinating. Her story begins with her own death, and the more it goes on, the more death happens around her. Nobody is safe. She causes almost all of them, even the ones of her friends - not directly, but through the consequences of her actions. The consequences of her victories and mistakes. The consequences of her anger and revenge, her power and powerlessness. It is caused by both the Human and Kree sides of her, by both Carol and Vers, Captain Marvel and the Annihilator.
Carol is immortal. She can't die. And death follows her anyway.
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marvels-meme · 2 months
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Canon worldbuilding lore on the MCU Kree to help you with your fanfic
They rule over multiple planets. Hala is the capital.
Hala's star is called Pama
In the comics there are around five known planets in Hala's system - it's unclear if Hala is 4th or 5th planet because it's been confused with another planet, Turunal.
Hala is located in the Larger Magellanic Cloud
Hala had oceans and forests (rip to those tho lol)
Leader of the Empire is called the "Supremor"
The Supreme Intelligence was basically god
The collective is one idea of the afterlife — if your brain is worthy it joins the Supreme Intelligences database when you die.
The spiritual afterlife is called the Etherplex or something idk
Their technology is somewhat water based (need more info on this)
Architecture is heavy on metal and stone and is very geometric. Buildings are detailed but there generally isn't too much furniture.
Cyan and purplish lights for a big chunk of Hala, golden lights for the Supreme Intelligence.
No hanging paintings... If you want art you have to hire someone to paint your wall lol
Starforce generally have one room apartments, I couldn't see a kitchen in them.
Stuff like wardrobes, book shelves, cupboards and drawers are more likely to be inserted into the wall to save space.
Like Carol literally lived in a single room with a bed, nightstand and a hexagonal cup. The ideal female living space.
They have hexagonal cups (I just thought that was cute)
The military is a big deal! Other respectable careers involve teaching, medicine, typically intelligent jobs that give something to society.
Kids are trained from a young age in the military. They're called "recruits". There's a deleted scene of Yon-Rogg teaching some.
The military hierarchy is likely Supremor > Accuser > Starforce > Kree Army > Non Kree Army > War slaves.
The Accusers aren't just extra bad military. They uphold the law, make arrests, hold trials, decide punishments, etc. I'd imagine that this is typically done for more important criminals or prisoners of war. That's why Dar-Benn holds an Accuser hammer as Supremor — she's upholding the law.
Kree Law is vaguely structured around the Tablets of Koth — they aren't definitive but they are the main basis.
Questioning your leaders is technically illegal
The worst crime of all is being "un-Kree".
Kree supremacy is big. In the comics it's illegal for Kree to have children with other species. They will tolerate other races if they’re feeling nice about it, but ultimately the Kree come first. This is important in the context of Carol's relationship with Yon-Rogg.
There's racism of blue Kree > non blue Kree in the comics but it doesn't appear to be present in the MCU. Keep it in mind though.
The Kree originally evolved to have blue skin because of low oxygen levels on Hala. Non blue kree came later as a result of mixing with other species. Since making babies with another species has been illegality for probably millenia, non blue Kree are now just another skin tone of the species.
Sexism isn't a thing. Yon-Rogg isn't sexist to Carol he's being racist too her lol
There are groups of noble families with some quite strict rules about battle. If a noble is cornered in battle with no way out they have to drink the special suicide juice or else they are shamed.
The suicide juice is called Odium, which means hate in Latin. If you sip it you go crazy with rage, get super strength and start trying to fight everything until it makes your heart explode
In the comics the Kree have double that of human organs — ie two hearts, four lungs. Brain is probably an exception. They have stronger bones and heavier muscle mass.
Kree blood has healing properties strong enough to bring a species with simple DNA (like humans) back from the dead but it's super duper painful and like 7/8 of the people that have received it have been given some kind of amnesia afterwards
Carol was one of those humans lol rip queen
Apparently the amnesia thing isn't even hard to do? In Agents of Shield a Kree had a tiny little hammer and he'd slap people with it and they'd loose their memories (I doubt that Carol was slapped with a tiny hammer but you never know this might help you)
Propaganda art - there are some gorgeous statues and murals in the Captain Marvel concept art.
Fashion is generally dark. Black, grey and brown for most people. It's not too complicated. White appears to be for underclothes/sleeping wear.
Well it's not too complicated unless you are the Supremor. Remember, Dar-Benn is succeeding the position from their idea of god. She's dressed to the tens and stands out the most from literally everyone. Her stuff is more detailed and metallic and she's wearing a lot more jewellery.
Also notice how Dar-Benn changes outfits literally every ten minutes. I need Marvel to stop killing all the cunty villains because I deserved to study her entire wardrobe thank you very much
A few Kree women (including Carol) have the style of one side being braided and the other let down.
The Kree are encouraged to experiment with as many genders as possible
So technically Carol Danvers lesbian sex canon
Some people grow babies in big tanks. Why? To make them strong or something idk. Carol's comic half sister was born in a big tank bc they wanted her to be strong asf to serve as an Accuser
Swear words — I only know da'st. No idea what it means
They don't have a word for candy </3
Normal space currency is called credits. Kree currency is called kreedits. If that's not the funniest fucking thing ever I don't know what is.
Kree names are "your name-family name". Eg Yon-Roggs given name is Yon, but his surname is Rogg. His daughters name is Una-Rogg.
You generally don't separate the name. Yon-Roggs name isn't Yon, it's Yon-Rogg. Obviously there's exceptions, but that's the general naming rule. It wouldn't be outright wrong to call him Yon, it would just be uncommon and slightly weird.
The Kree have beef with every species ever. They had multiple wars with the Asgardians and the Xandarians.
I've probably missed something lol
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wingedwhirlwind · 10 months
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I asked the wishing-well whether Yon-Rogg is in the Marvels. It gave me this cryptic answer.
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tobiasdrake · 1 year
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I like how Captain Marvel opens on Hala and is just like, "Yeah, this is Vers, she's a Kree Warrior with superpowers gifted by the Supreme Intelligence."
And. Like. It's believable. The Supreme Intelligence is really good at sounding like a reasonable authority figure. She's got this whole Kamar-Taj Ancient One vibe to her. And Yon-Rogg is rocking the Mordo role as Vers's personal friend, superior officer, and mentor all in one.
If you didn't know from Guardians 1 that the Kree are a bunch of imperialist, genocidal pricks, you could totally buy this.
But knowing the actual truth of Vers's identity on rewatch, you start to see how everything Yon-Rogg and the Supreme Intelligence say to her are peppered with gaslighting and veiled threats. Like, they throw "Stop being so emotional!" in her face like four separate times in the first five minutes just to make her doubt herself, even when she's barely conveying any emotion at all.
What pricks!
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PSA for Yon-Rogg nation, he’s in the new What If… Nebula Joined the Nova Corps episode, voiced by Jude Law too. Sort of spoilers for characterisation, but he’s high-key sketchy and evil in it. I didn’t think we’d ever see him again in Marvel media, but given this, I’m finding his post-CM characterisation quite fascinating, especially with what we learn about the Kree and Hala in The Marvels. Give it a watch (honestly just watch the show in general if you haven’t yet, I adore What If…?, it’s super engaging and I loved that this particular episode was Nebula focussed) Text me if y’all wanna discuss Yon though cause I hate this man yet I love the character and I wanna pick him apart :)
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lesbian-deadpool · 1 year
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Yon-Rogg: Men don't find that attractive.
Carol: Promise?
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thingsasbarcodes · 6 months
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Captain Marvel (2019)
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roggvers · 2 years
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@butterflyagua4
Do you mean the first movie? All those Kree scenes that supposedly made Yon more sympathetic? Or have there been new concrete news?
The scenes with Yon I know we didn't get:
- Yon and Ronan arguing/talking before the deployment to Torfa (there were stills with them released before)
- Yon and Vers going through Lower Hala (Jude mentioned it was one of his favourite scenes to shoot :/ Brie also said some 'fun stuff' with her and Jude was cut, there was like a few seconds of b-roll footage from a source I wasn't able to track down but there was a gif somewhere)
- The blood transfusion scene (a bit of it was in the trailer, possibly the full scene featured Yon introducing himself to Vers 'for the first time', since they cut out all the scenes where his name is mentioned before the betrayal reveal to ~keep the secret~ even though they were already selling Yon-Rogg toys so it wasn't much of a secret anyway 🙄)
- (Possibly) Yon looking for Vers on Torfa after abduction/being back on the ship and worrying about her but also resolutely stating 'she'll be fine. She's Kree' (there was a still of him in a cave on Torfa, and Hero Storybook, a comic prequel features a form of this scene, and I'm assuming the book was written based on original uncut script for the movie so I'm not sure if it was cut at movie or script stage yet)
Basically I would give a limb for the original uncut script AND the original uncut movie
(another reason I know there were many more deleted scenes is because they did a focus group showing and people apparently were sympathetic towards Yon and since Marvel thinks it's audience is allergic to nuance they cut a lot of those scenes. The movie was definitely over 2 hours long before it was cut down. Also, before the DVD release we were promised 26 minutes of deleted scenes but in the end there were barely 10 minutes so I believe we are missing AT LEAST 15 minutes of Yon (and Vers) footage which is a lot considering Yon probably has like 15 minutes of screen time left in the movie we actually saw :/)
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eliah · 1 month
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therealvinelle · 2 years
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Omg you also ship Carol/Yon-Rog! I won’t admit it to anyone as apparently that’s like very controversial, but damn I thought they were being really heavy handed in the movie. Sure as hell more to work with than Stucky.
Is there any other way to go, daddy-o?
Yonvers is my ship, damnit, my dark horse OTP for the MCU. Watching the credits to Captain Marvel roll, I had that terrible "yup, new problematic ship" feeling that you get when you ship a brainwashed woman with a handler. What can I say?
Ao3 holds a surprisingly rich selection of Yonvers fics, I strongly recommend checking it out. @theoriginalcarnivorousmuffin wrote a fic for the pair too, to be found here.
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daisy-mooon · 2 months
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I think The Marvels should have had a scene where Carol kills Yon-Rogg idk she deserves a little murder after all of that
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marvels-meme · 5 months
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wingedwhirlwind · 4 months
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"What If...?" Season 2 drops, and what do we get? The unexpected return of Yon-Rogg, voiced by none other than Jude Law. Somebody pinch me. Alright, reality check. Mixed feelings. This Yon-Rogg really took a detour into sketchy territory. A far cry from the character we embraced in the main MCU timeline and not the same Kree I’ve come to love. Just look at the line "You don't have to worry about Xandar anymore. Ronan has big plans for it"
A cartoonishly evil, overly theatrical version of himself, no motivation for actions. The complexity and depth I admired was replaced with generic villainy, leaving a cardboard cutout. Albeit a very cool animated one, loved the design btw. It's a tough pill to swallow, even if it comes in the form of a very stylish, animated capsule. But for ten seconds I was overjoyed hearing Jude Law’s Yon-Rogg voice, and now I know this Kree warrior still exists. 
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trash-gobby · 2 years
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Yon-Rogg - Captain Marvel (2019) gif set by me
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tobiasdrake · 1 year
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Villain Breakdown: The Supreme Intelligence and Yon-Rogg
What a cool villain concept, the Supreme Intelligence is. They appear in the form you are most comfortable with. We've seen that so much in sci-fi, and then this movie's like, "Wow, what a horrifying power for an abuser to have. The Kree population is controlled by an actual sentient gas light!"
I hope we see more of the Kree in the future. Carol promised to hit them like a meteor to some dinosaurs but it's been almost thirty years since then and we have no idea what ever came of it. Maybe we'll find out in The Marvels.
And then there's Yon-Rogg. The smug, confident, generous, and well-disciplined man opposite Carol's over-emotional and impulsive woman. Or, at least, that's how he'd like you to see it. Insecure? Possessive? Manipulative? What do those words mean!?
Yon-Rogg talks down to Carol, trying to make it a point of honor for her to fight him "fairly". To turn off her powers and face him in his arena, the only place he can beat her.
But he never pays her the same respect, does he? When the inhibitor on her neck shuts off her powers, does he lay down his weapon to face her hand-to-hand? Nope. Disables her with the gravity gun without hesitation.
He always faces her with his men and his weapons at his side. It's only when those things are taken away from him, only when Carol has the upper hand, that suddenly he cares about fairness. Carol must fight him with one hand behind her back for the sake of his dignity but he can lay her out with whatever tools he has at his disposal. Those are the rules of the game he's defined.
Yon-Rogg presents himself like a reasonable man. A fair man. But he's scum. As noted previously, he makes a fuss about not wanting to hurt the innocent people on the worlds he attacks, but then doesn't hesitate to order an Accuser bombing the second he learns that Carol isn't going to obey him any longer.
He wants to be seen as a noble and decent person. He probably sees himself that way. But his hypocrisy leaks out any time he doesn't get his way. He is a monster playing nice.
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