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#yes i just rewatched the umbara arc
0pin0n-custard · 2 years
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We are all entitled to our own opinions
Unless that opinion is liking Pong Krell. If you like him, you are legally required to stop.
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therealcalrissian · 6 hours
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“my squad? we’re nothing but a bad batch.” -hevy to 99 | the clone wars s3 e1
i just wanted to say that once this series comes to a close i will be hibernating for the rest of the year. don’t talk to me. don’t try and contact me. the only thing that will wake me from this hibernation is the return of my fav clone rebels (rex and the crew) and the batch (if they don’t all tragically die in the finale).
take the opportunity to say your last goodbyes to the bad batch before they die or possibly leave us forever and never return.
i do think that whoever does make it out will return in some other form of star wars (animation i do pray) and they will probably be traumatized more then they already are and may never be the same (unfortunately).
i love everything this show has brought to star wars animation and star wars in general.
the animation visuals. the character design. the character arcs. the cameos. the new characters. the old characters. the relationships between these characters. the brotherhood. the sisterhood. the family. the closing of one era into a new one. the possibilities are endless and the stakes are high.
i hope to see more of the bad batch, but if not, then it’s been a good run for these silly little misfit clones. i hold them close to my heart dearly.
rest in peace to our brave “exceptional minded” hero tech aka brown-eyes aka goggles you have been and always will be missed (even though he might actually still be alive and now turned evil, oh well, it’s the though that counts).
i remember watching the first episode back in 2021, having just finished watching season 7 of tcw (i was late to the show yes i know) and realizing the potential this story could have. it started out as an introduction to the final season of one of my favorite shows of all time, and ended as—on it’s own—one of my favorite shows of all time alongside tcw. and to put it simply, it has exceeded my expectations by far. i remember waking up extra early every wednesday before school to watch the newest episode. it was a weekly and annual tradition since the show came out, and once each season was finished, i was immediately excited for the next season to arrive.
but there is no next season. this is it. and i really do hope this “bittersweet ending” will be one worth while.
hunter, wrecker, echo, tech, crosshair, and omega.
clone force 99.
the bad batch.
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in the meantime, i will be rewatching the umbara arc and the first four episodes of season two of the tbb when tech was still alive to cope with my sadness and the ending of this show.
thank you for putting up with my nerd bullshit.
see u geeks on wednesday!
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zaptrapp · 3 years
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Am I gonna rewatch the entire Umbara Arc for the millionth time just because I miss my sweet dorks and it’s legitimately one of the best arcs in TCW? Yes.
Am I gonna regret doing so because it’s also really dark, Pong Krell makes me wanna commit 1st degree murder and a lot of my babies die horribly? Probably.
Let’s do this.
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Replying to @elizabeth0020 for: Hello!! I’ve always wondered how you decide what arcs/episodes you’re going to write? There are sooooo many, how do you know what’s a good one for your story vs one that isn’t? And a second question (if you feel like answering lol): how do you picture all the details you wrote? Like lighting, movements, facial expression etc? You’re so good at that and I’ve always been amazed at how you come up with them!
I love answering anything and everything, so never worry about sending me too much! I don’t often get to talk about the technical stuff (like the questions you’ve asked), so I love getting any chance I have to talk about them! (So hold on tight, ‘cause this is a ramble! 😂)
So, for the first question regarding the arcs... I picked out what episodes/arcs I thought were beneficial when I did my first watch through of the Clone Wars this past summer. I had a google doc that I wrote down all the episode names in, then jotted down the preliminary ideas. Let me tell you, with a show that has seven seasons of 20+ episodes, it was... so daunting to even think about narrowing down what episodes and arcs to use. It was what initially deterred me from using any of them at all. So I started to look for things that I felt would directly impact Elara, her character, and her development. For example, I didn’t really use all of “Cat and Mouse” because the episode, on a whole, wouldn’t have Elara much involved in it. It did, however, provide a wonderful backdrop for her time on Christophsis, which is why I didn’t nix it entirely. Aside from forcing Obi-Wan and Elara to be tied together, “Dooku Captured” and “The Gungan General” were used to introduce her to Hondo, whom both allows her to be more playful, and showcases her knowledge of the seedier side of the galaxy. And there are plenty of episodes that I love and adore that I just... don’t think would fit. For as much as I love “Senate Spy” and the introduction of Clovis, there’s no way for me to put Elara into that episode and not have it feel forced. That’s another huge thing I look for when picking episodes; if Elara doesn’t feel like she would naturally fit into the storyline somehow, even if it’s indirectly, I’m not going to force her into it. That’s when I do things like mention the events of the episode in a chapter (like with “Clone Cadets”) instead of doing a whole episode. So Clovis is obviously going to get a mention (she’s Anakin’s sister and Padmé’s bestie, of course she’s going to hear about the debacle), but the whole episode won’t be written out.
Then, of course, you have the arcs. The ones that I had immediately chosen are (and these probably come as no surprise): Ryloth, Mandalore, Mortis, Slavers, and Deception. The arcs I find easier to choose because you have a chance to work with more surface area so to speak. It gives me a chance to really flesh out Elara’s part in the story, focus in on her and her emotions and how she’s tied to this particular plot. With the Mortis Arc, for example––Elara is a Skywalker. She is strong with the Force, and in the “Balance” verse, considered a Chosen One. That ties her into the Mortis Arc very interestingly, since it’s not just Anakin going God Mode. It’s going to lend me the chance to really dig deep into Elara, her connection to the Force, to the Light and Dark (the Daughter and Son), and her relationship to being a Chosen One. At first I was like ‘holy shit I’m never gonna be able to do this arc,’ and then when I buckled down and really thought it over... I realized it’s going to be really important for her as a character, and particularly her relationship with Anakin (stay tuned!). It also probably comes as no surprise that a lot of the arcs (and episodes) that get picked are influenced by whether or not Anakin or Obi-Wan are in them. Which is why I almost turned a blind eye to the Umbara Arc until someone brought it up. I did a rewatch of it and knew I had to include it, too. Because that’s going to be an awesome opportunity to flesh out how close Elara is to the 442nd, and be able to contrast her ideals as a General against those of Krell. A lot of the picking of episodes and arcs ends up being trial and error. I wrote the first four-ish pages of “Clone Cadets” before I realized it just didn’t flow right.
All this being said, I like to envision Elara is around for all of the Clone Wars episodes, so I’ve got lots of fun little random snippets for things that I’ll probably never write, but figure would happen in some part of a CW episode.
And after all that, here we finally are at your second question! ☺️
Coming up with all those small details is actually an amalgamation of things at work. I do attribute a lot of it to my training as an actor/theatre artist. I think about how, if I were directing it, how I’d want the movements to look, and how that would translate on both a small scale, and a large scale. A touch of a hand for Obi-Wan and Elara can feel like a world shifting movement––but come off as nothing but a simple, friendly gesture to their fellows. On a small scale, what makes the difference is the way the touch happens. How light the pressure of the touch is, how long it lasts, how slowly their fingers brush against the other person’s hand... all those things help me figure out the mood of that touch and how they’d respond to it. Also, when choosing words to describe movements I often think about the attitude attached to it. A ‘turn of the head’ when Anakin’s being moody may end up being a ‘swivel,’ or the ‘arch’ of an eyebrow from Obi-Wan is more sarcastic than a gentler ‘raise.’ I often agonize picking out those sorts of words. I’ll sit there and try them over and over again, then put them all into a Thesaurus website because I worry I use the same words too much. The thesaurus (particularly when writing Obi-Wan), is my best friend.
When I write mannerisms for canon characters, I use a lot of reference for. I’ll literally just scroll through gifs, watch movie clips, or rewatch the scene I’m writing to pick up on character-specific mannerisms. A couple chapters ago I was describing Anakin’s angry face, and I just looked at images of him from Revenge of the Sith (him alone in the Council room, him being knighted as Vader, his expressions on Mustafar, etc.) I’ll also do this for vocal ticks/inflections. I will also unashamedly admit I will sit there and compose my face into whatever expression I’m trying to describe. Sometimes feeling it physically, or physically composing it helps me come up with words or ways to describe the look. Same thing with touches AND with vocal inflection. Do I sit by myself and read what I’ve written aloud in my best Obi-Wan Kenobi cadence? Yes, yes I do. And has it helped me figure out what words/phrases do and do not work? Yes, it absolutely has!
Also, a lot of describing the details of motion/facial expression/touch gets affected by music for me. Like, if you listen to “Stairway to Heaven” as played by the London Philharmonic Orchestra while reading, say, the scene in “The Gungan General” where Obi-Wan and Elara wake up pressed up to one another... that song is just THE feel of that moment. Listening to the right music when writing (the little details especially) is big for me. Kinda like how “Blue Monday” is the music that works best for the bunker scene in “Storm Over Ryloth.”
There are also a lot of details that I pull from real life. I remember when I wrote Elara seeing Naboo for the first time—and consequently grass, trees, and flowers, too—it was summer time for me. I was staring out at the trees and the way the light filtered through them, watched how they swayed... the grass had just been cut and the breeze smelled sweet... and I was like ‘god, imagine experiencing this all for the first time.’ So I took what I felt and elevated it a little, tried to add a kind of wonder to the things that we all, for the most part, kinda take for granted. I like pulling on experiences I’ve had in real life as a basis.
I ask attribute a LOT of my detail work to my training as a theatre artist. I think about lighting now differently than I did a couple years ago; because I learned what kinda of light fit different moods. Like the scene of Obi-Wan at Dex’s would feel completely different if I’d described the light as cool toned. It would lack a sense of hope. His reminiscences would be sadder, it would feel more stark. The warmer tones suggest that there’s still heart and hope, a possibility for things to get better, and that reflects his inner life better than colder, bluer light. Or how I used light when I wrote Elara seeing Watto again after 10 years to describe her struggle between Dark and Light in that moment. She stepped out of the sun and into the shade because, for a moment, she almost gave in to the Darkness. (Inspired by the scene in Force Awakens where Kylo asks for Han’s help and the light shines down on them... with hints of red low lighting to hint at the struggle... only to have the light disappear as he overrides his own vulnerability, reverts to the Darkness and kills his own father).
I also love using physical objects as emotional triggers, like is done in theatre quite a bit. A good recent example being Elara’s lightsaber. Obi-Wan having it reminds him of his worries regarding her safety, and his struggle with choosing what path to take in regards to his feelings towards her. Or Elara with the Snow Blossom. These things have the ability to spark different emotions depending on the situation. On a good day, the Snow Blossom will make her smile; on a bad day, it may make her feel more sad than happy. And sometimes they don’t have to be objects—they can be bruises or scars or healing wounds. Having something physical spark an emotional response can be really helpful, and has actually helped me though rough spots in my writing.
I could literally go on for hours about all of this kind of stuff! So thank you for asking about it and giving me a chance to discuss it even a little bit! ☺️
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you've talked about every member of the rebels crew, but i don't remember seeing you talk about zeb. what are your thoughts on him?
He’s cool! I feel like they didn’t do much with his character after the Lira San arc (which was good), and the “nuanced take” they were going for re: Kallus becoming a rebel also feels like it undercuts that arc because they don’t ever really address the fact that Kallus did participate in the genocide of Zeb’s people beyond a couple off-hand lines about him “just following orders” (which is so on the nose that I thought it was supposed to be a set-up for Zeb being like fuck you actually you could have refused, ESPECIALLY since they did that same critique of “good soldiers follow orders” in the Umbara arc in tCW, but it was played completely genuine as far as I remember).
Zeb seems to have gotten the least amount of character dev out of the entire crew, and the development he does get feels less connected to the rest of the crew than the others. Kanan and Ezra have a very obvious (and wonderful) arc with one another, Hera’s history with her father is given a lot of really great development and ties directly into her personal motivations as a character and how she interacts with her crew, and Sabine’s arc with her family is probably one of the best mini-arcs in the show overall, but Zeb doesn’t really have that same “aha” feel if you know what I mean? Like there was no episode that made me go “oh yes you are my favourite now” in the same way all the other characters did.
I’ve only watched rebels all the way through once, so I’m probably forgetting some of his character development moments/episodes, but I came away from the show with no one specific episode in mind that focuses on him that I’ve gone back to and rewatched, which I’ve done for all the other characters.
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princepondincherry · 4 years
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Wall of Text about SWTCW S4
I’ve been doing a rewatch of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and to my surprise, I think season 4 might be the best season. The animation is really top-notch by this point, Ahsoka is out of her kiddy clothes, and Obi-Wan’s wearing proper robes now. But more than that, the storylines are mature and awesome.
The first arc is the Mon Calamari invasion, which follows a fairly typical “young prince must take over for his kingdom under threat” storyline with gratuitous Ackbar, by beneath the bland veneer, it’s a fairly mature look at interspecies politics, coming of age as a leader, and exactly why the Separatists are the bad guys despite them being right about the Republic’s corruption. It’s also got some really interesting 3D underwater combat, Gungans, and Master Kit Fisto.
Immediately after that, the Gungans almost go to war with the Naboo. Which seemed random to me the first time I saw it, but in retrospect, it’s pretty clearly a response to the Gungans going to Mon Calamari and dying purely out of their friendship with Padme. The episode doesn’t talk about this AT ALL, but the public support for the attack had to come from somewhere, and they wouldn’t have put this as the immediate next episode if they didn’t mean to imply this. The one minister dude was only mind controlling the Gungan leader, not the normal people.
Beyond that, this episode has my favorite fight scene in the show: General Tarpals vs. General Grievous. Yes, I’m serious. The Gungans are warriors, and that’s made clear by how effectively they attack him. First, Tarpals wins as a general by using Jar-Jar’s distraction to shut down the entire droid army. Then, when Grievous underestimates him, the Gungans start by wisely attacking many-at-once. This just gets them killed, so Tarpals jumps in, and we get a few seconds of really good fight choreography before Grievous stabs Tarpals and then Tarpals stabs Grievous in what would have been an even more lethal wound on anyone else, creating an opening for his troops to take Grievous down. I could go on and on about how much characterization this episode packs in for Tarpals, but this post is long enough. And even though the capture of Grievous is reverse later this episode, it takes another really awesome fight scene with Anakin nearly fighting off Dooku and a bunch of Magnaguards all at once.
Then there’s some fairly decent droid episodes followed by the Umbara arc, which I think everyone agrees is great.
After that is the Zygerrian slaver arc, which is one of the purest expressions of the Jedi as “fantasy knights in space” I’ve ever seen. They’re taunted by their old enemies whose ancestors used to run an ancient slave empire until the Jedi destroyed it. They take troops from the war effort specifically to back them up in dismantling part of this resurgent slave empire. The Jedi are VERY CLEARLY  symbol of good and resistance to slavery throughout the arc. And there’s an episodes-long ideological conflict where the Zygerrians try to break down the Jedi’s will and invalidate their philosophy, while the Jedi claim that they’re evil and that Dooku is just using them anyway. And by the end, the Jedi are completely vindicated--the Queen realizes Anakin was right, Anakin refuses to break, and they all manage to rescue a bunch of slaves and destroy part of the operation.
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Rewatching “Carnage of Krell”
Part 1 2 3 4 of the Umbara Arc
OH LORD THIS EPISODE
“Some clones are defective.”  UM EXCUSE ME BITCH
Oh I like the black under gear all the clones have
God this is such a depressing opening
Sooo I am definitely gonna look up the OST of this arc because it’s really good
Dogma, calm thyself
“You’re making a mistake by crossing me, clone.”  “It’s Captain, sir.”  *z snaps indefinitely*  YES REX YESSSSS!!!!
:D
So was Dogma promoted in this episode by Krell?
Ummm... guys....
GUYS FREAKING STOP FIRING! 
GUYS
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
*Rex finds a clone corpse*  OH HECK NO
I WAS EMOTIONALLY NOT PREPARED FOR THIS SHIT
“I found the platoon leader... it’s Waxer.  He’s still alive.”  OH GOD NOT WAXER
HE EVEN HAS A LITTLE DOODLE OF NUMA ON HIS HELMET
Oh heck yeah that shot’s awesome
God dang it Dogma
OH MY GOD JUST SHOOT HIM [Krell] NOW
“I’m surprised you were able to figure it out, for a clone.”  ENOUGH WITH THE SHIT
OK, that pose is awesome
As well as that one
OK, Lucasfilm, where is my spin-off with Temuera Morrison as Rex already?
*Pong Krell lets out a couple evil laughs*  Maniacal laugh... maniacal laugh...
HE [Krell] JUST PULLED A FREAKING BANE ON ONE OF THE CLONES!
*Tup stuns Krell*  Nice one, Tup
*Krell talks about joining the new dark Order rising and becoming Dooku’s apprentice*  Bro... just... no...
How come there are four minutes left in this episode and Krell isn’t dead yet?
“I said, on your knees.”  God damn Rex is a badass
*Dogma shoots Krell dead*  Oh!  Go Dogma!
I just noticed this but during this episode, the animators animated Dogma to look kinda smaller than the others, especially when he’s in full armor.
“We’re soldiers.  What happens to us then?”  Some depressing stuff.  Order 66.  Joining the Ghost crew.  Y’know, all that jazz.
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Rewatching “Darkness on Umbara”
Decided to rewatch this depressing ass arc because I was discussing clone headcanons with @dynamicdiplomacy via text chain
Part 1 2 3 4 of the Umbara Arc
OH SHUT UP NETFLIX THIS SHOW AIN’T GETTING REMOVED
So what’s the color coordination code when it comes to clones?  Anakin’s troop has blue (orange later for the Siege of Mandalore), Obi-Wan’s troop has orange...
Mini walkers!
So how much of the budget for this arc was spent on overlapping Dee Bradley Baker with Dee Bradley Baker? 
Oh my God the noise the mini walkers make when they fire!
This fast-paced animation is fantastic 
 YO imagine if we got part of a battle sequence from the POV of Rex a la “Battle of the Bastards”?
THE HELL IS THAT?
Just heard some musical cues from “The Imperial March...”
Aaww character development for Rex! 
What the hell are half these things on Umbara?
 Y-Wings!
The use of reds in this episode is really cool
[Pong Krell enters] *sings* HERE HE IS, THE BIGGEST DOUCHE OF THE UNIVERSE/ IN ALL THE GALAXY/ THERE’S NO BIGGER DOUCHE THAN     YOUUUUU... 
 Also, oh hi Kevin Michael Richardson 
OH WAIT THAT’S NOT HIM?!? 
ANAKIN PRAISING REX IS THE SHIT I LIVE FOR
“I find it very interesting, Captain, that you are able to recognize the value of honor, for a clone.”  Ex-cuse me, bitch... 
That’s it.  Hold my drink.  *rolls up sleeves*  
What’s the point of having gauntlets at all if you’re [Krell] not gonna put them on your main hands?
 “CT-7567, do you understand?”  HE HAS A NAME
Y’know, the main conflict could be resolved if Rex had made a call to Anakin after they invaded the base and complained about Krell
“Change in plans, Captain.  I’m [Krell] in command now.”  Oh my God....
Y’know, if the Umbarans were voiced by an uncredited Dee Bradley Baker, I am going to throw this bag of pretzels across the room...
 *in complete and utter sarcasm*  Yeah, let’s attack the city with all of our forces at once in one single direction.  GREAT IDEA!
“Not clones, men!”  YES REX!
BRAH YOU [Krell] DID NOT JUST BADMOUTH ANAKIN IN FRONT OF REX
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