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tomthefanboy · 2 years

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Last week I made a simple post saying I wanted a D&D version of this chart with a gnoll in the middle. I know that most of the time if you want something on the internet you have to make it yourself, but I couldn't figure out what each axis would be.

I wanted the D&D chart SO BADLY that I started boosting the posts about it with tumblr Blaze... Post 1 EVERY Post 2 TIER Post 3 OF BLAZE Post 4

and after spending $250 I had a very wild week...

...and had a lot interactions to sift through!

Before I go too deep into the feedback and my reactions, I would like everyone to know that only ONE tumblr user out of.... (3604 plus 19895 plus 25938 plus 63883... cary the tens...) ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY interactions actually had the combination of empathy, creativity, and reading comprehension to HEAR ME.

@emptymanuscript made me not one, but TWO D&D versions of the chart!

LOOK AT THEM!

Gnolls in the middle and everything! Fantastic.

This gives me the catharsis of being heard and a level of closure fitting with a $250 purchase on the internet. Especially when combined with all of these new friends (whom I will be spending the next month getting to know)!

Hoooooowwwwwwwwwever... I still want a version that has the D&D creature types Humanoid on one side and Beast on the other side of the gnoll. so lets slip under the cut and take a look at the suggestions.

So first off, Axis 1. The X axis if you like maths. This is where I felt like Human to Beast would fit. That changes the chart into something like this.

This will be the basis for most of the charts going forward, meaning that in addition to the top and bottom creatures we place at the extremes of Axis 2 (the Y Axis) we will also need to consider monsters that are "half-humanoid" or "half-beast" versions of those types.

Since I started with creature types, lets start with the two groups of suggestions that actually involved the Rules As Written (aka RAW) D&D monster types.

Fiendish - Celestial got a lot of hate from comments due to the lore of gnolls. Gnolls are the spawn of the demonlord Yeenoghu and reproduce through a wicked ritual. People claimed that this meant they could not be placed in the center of the chart this way. They were too hung up on the top of the chart being a celestial type creature, if you make the top of the chart a creature that's halfway between a demon and an angel (such as a chaotic neutral pixie) and the BOTTOM of the chart a creature that is full blood, bad-n-nasty demon (like say, Yeenoghu itself) then gnolls serve a pretty good middle ground. Then the corners would be creatures that are mixes of each of the sides (demonic beast, demonic humanoid, fey beast, fey humanoid) and you get a pretty solid chart like this;

A smaller group considered the mortal natures of both Beasts and Humanoids and chose a different set of criteria...

These don't have a unified voice but generally it was about an axis between what was natural/organic/normal and what was un-natural/in-organic/aberrant. Multiple creature types fit this bill at each end. Plants and fey are tied to living things while Undead, Constructs and Aberrations are based in inorganic and un-natural processes. We've already got fey in our last chart, so lets see how that looks on an axis against Constructs and Undead (both of these a created via magic like gnolls, so we'll leave out the alien aberrations and try not to think about them reproducing).

Before we continue, let's take our first side bar.

There were some fools out there thinking they could shame me for spending my money on this, proving they don't understand budgets OR the internet. Only ONE of you out there thought to ask me for some money and I respected their hustle so much I gave them enough to blaze one of their own posts. Don't think the rest of you will get some though, even if you come at me with charities or shit, so don't try it. That time has passed.

Such foolishness. Weep for them. Don't tag them. Definitely do not interact. I DO hope they get this blaze post as well though. (Hey @staff, you can do that right? It's not like any of them would have the mental fortitude to read this far after all)

From here we get into the more esoteric groupings. This is where the people who are VERY into D&D and the people who are completely unfamiliar overlap. Let's look at the physical descriptors first.

Size categories are a thing in D&D and Gnolls are medium creatures like dwarves or elves and most humanoids. There's plenty of small monsters and plenty of big ones as well so it is relatively easy to find Large or Small creatures on the humanoid side and the Beast side and then a Tiny creature for the top and a Huge creature for the bottom.

This makes for a satisfactory chart, but not one that captures the complexities of the original animal meme.

The Softness and Hardness of a creature can be reflected in they shape and their stats. It may be acidic but the gently curves of a black pudding are pretty soft, just like the fists of an iron golem are hard. The corners of a chart like this are a bit trickier, there's all shapes of armored things you need to find softer partial-beasts and partial-humanoids. Oozes don't come in half measures so a different creature might be needed.

Let's take a look at another side bar before we continue. There were a lot of people with something to say that were unhelpful in new and different ways.

I'm sure there are dozens of you out there who had been thinking about a Third Axis (the Z axis) this whole time. That stops being a "D&D version of this chart"! Not applicable to this discussion! Same with anything that doesn't have gnolls in the middle!

Next up we have some suggestions for metrics along SOCIAL lines instead of physical ones.

The lines here are very blurry. Gnolls work in packs but are not really social creatures. The destroy civilizations brutally but they do use weapons and magic items they find. They can speak language. The cuddle-to-kill spectrum is as skewed as the fiendish - celestial axis discussed earlier. Aside from player characters, gnolls want to kill and destroy things. I know the savagery is attractive to the monster-fuckers out there but they are 100% kill you. to go further down that axis you'd have to start looking into undead or outer planar beings that destroy the body, the mind, and the soul. So lets look at the Feral to Civil axis instead. Gnolls don't have as much infighting as some creatures. They are at least capable of teamwork to achieve their goals of mayhem so lets focus on that as a metric. Modrons exemplify orderly cooperation for a group cause but there's no CULTURE there. Just Law vs Chaos. We need a civil creature that is neither/both humanoid and beast and an utterly feral creature for the other side that will even turn on its own kind. Even more feral and unthinking than your average beast... But we simply can't ignore sexiness and willingness to cuddle in the equation... Metal to Cottagecore sums it all up best I think, so let's look for that.

When you practice for an exam a lot people will tell you to trust your gut. I'm here to tell you to trust your first Blaze results. As much as I loved the thrill and attention of the higher tiers, the roller coast ride of the $25 tier was enough to get me where I needed to go. Let's see one of the first suggests and the most popular.

Gnolls are a combination of brutal warrior and arcane origin story. There are certain gnolls with magical powers but in general they are not relied upon. This makes them a good middle ground. So we need a creature at one end that is a cunning spellcaster and an opposite that is a muscle-bound brute. A number of arcane outsiders fit the first while half the giants fit the latter. But anything with a language is not quite dumb enough for an extreme. So there may be a need for outsiders on both ends if an unthinking/non-magical outsider can be found. BUT are outsiders by default eldritch magical creatures? Also, should I listen to the person that posted my face in their reblog more than the others? That seems important...

As much as I'd love to have different creatures on every single chart as a weird flex, but the Tarrasque literally REFLECTS SPELLS and is one of the few creatures dumber than an ogre without being an ooze, construct or undead. On the other end, I had considered that the Death Tyrant or the Demilich with its Strength of 1 might represent the ultimate embodiment of mind over matter, but nobody has as many MAGIC spells and MIND powers as the Illithilich!

As we reach the final side bar, allow me to slap down a block of tags for all the people who left notes specifically asking to see how it ends. that way they get an alert even if this blaze doesn't get to them. @trickstercheshi

@kippkap

@musings-of-an-avimancer

@thatwingeddaydreamer

@smokenmoths

@queuest

If you did a CTRL-F and just scrolled down to your name, I don't take it personally. I applaud your efficiency!

Let's see all the "none of the aboves" that my Blaze Train awoke as it shrieked across their dashboards!

Not all comments are created equal.

Out of all the excellent ideas there was one that stood out to me early on and only got a few more people fully on board through the entire Blaze Train.

Yes. That's right. We come all the way back around to physical descriptors. But it's not that simple! On the original chart, the rat, weasel, and raccoon are also mischievous and unpredictable with their grabby little hands. Meanwhile the quadrupedal Horse has evolved just as far in a different direction. Solidity and strength are in their hooves. Llamas and goats benefit from this power and stability but use it for wildly different purposes. There are also easy D&D creatures to pick out for each side without dabbling in lycanthropy or shifters.

And now I can rest, knowing that I have the chart that I wanted all along. Now I just need to blaze this and see which chart people like the most and how many ideas people have for the Z axis on them. (you sick bastards)

#Blaze Train off the rails #Last Full post #everything else will be reblogs #tumblr blaze #D&D #welcome to the deep lore.#argue all you want MDMR #gonna come at me ya best come correct #with reblogs and diagrams #and the first image is the invert so I can see it on the activity log easier

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my-autism-adhd-blog · 11 months

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I everyone,

I found this Venn diagram of ADHD and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). There are more shared characteristics than I thought. I’ll leave the source down below if anyone wants to read it:

ADHD

Borderline Personality Disorder

#adhd #bpd #borderline personality disorder #venn diagram #neurodivergent insights #feel free to share/reblog #if you’re neurodivergent feel free to reblog #tw bright colors #tw eye strain

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bi-disaster-kirk · 1 year

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every Star Trek episode is like "oops, our amazing technology isn't working right now. guess the crew will have to rely on charm, logic, diplomacy, bravery and cunning to solve this problem"

#reblog the version with the wheel diagram!!!#(and that is why we all obsess over the characters)#general

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grapefruit185 · 1 year

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a collection of guys.. mostly an excuse to mess around with textures and colors :+)

#David Byrne #talking heads #hasanabi #hasan piker #jerma #jerma985 #im not putting these in their own posts #the ven diagram of people who potentially reblog this is small but thats the game i play

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uncanny-tranny · 3 months

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I'm sure I've talked about this before, but I'm still not over this aspect of abuse I faced wherein systems were used against me in a very manipulative way. When I was hospitalized, it was because I was a "bad victim" of the abuse I faced - the system (hospitals) was used against me in a manipulative and coercive way which further traumatized me, and I don't think people like talking about it.

I specifically talked about the abuse I faced and the way systems were exploited to further manipulate a narrative that I "deserved" the treatment I received, but I think it's telling that I'm not the only person who experienced this. There's something wrong with abusive people being able to exploit systems in order to "punish" the target of abuse. There's something wrong with the way we treat abuse victims/survivors. I, frankly, will never be able to forgive the people who let my autonomy be revoked through coercive means. I spent years feeling like I "deserved" the abuse that put me in that situation, and I was damaged for it. And knowing that I'm not the only person who has had that experience of abuse makes me insane.

#politics #mental health #abuse #abuse tw #abuse mention tw #i see a Lot of abusive people use mental health in such a way to exploit it against their victim and it also makes me irate #which is why i'm concerned with the popular narratives surrounding mental health and cluster B especially #this is inspired by the addict post i made that's getting notes again #addicts 🤝 abuse victims // constantly having their autonomy revoked 'for their own good'#(often the venn diagram between addicts and abuse victims/survivors is a circle. ask me how i know.)#i didn't want to reblog that post with this text because i don't have the experience of having autonomy revoked for being an addict

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liloinkoink · 2 years

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i have done the research and i present my findings to the jury. martyn thirdlife 🤝 martin tma

#says words #there were more things i could have included i just didn’t have room #before anyone snipes me the in love w his boss thing is referencing a venn diagram reblogged by martyn himself

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seaalgae · 4 months

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while i'm doing fucked up and evil intercommunity discourse i do need to say that it hits in a way that the "transphobes say 'don't be surprised if testosterone doesn't turn you into an anime twink' but every trans guy is trying to be the bear-est bear possible" post that went around a bit ago set it up as something transphobes say to show how out of touch they are, but it's also just. specifically the statement that's outlined as transphobic is the type of post that goes unquestioned for thousands of notes within queer spaces practically once a month when it's about transfems

like i think i've been trying to find ways to outline how specifically caustic even the most open queer spaces tend to be about transfems for years now and i think this is just the example i'm going to latch onto, that this thing that is a pretty obvious, conceptually ridiculous expression of transphobia is also just a genuine sentiment that goes viral among even other trans people pretty regularly, and it's such a strong sentiment that it almost feels taboo to even mention that transfeminine people are also capable of making informed decisions about trans health care as the bare minimum 'hey trans women are still people' type of statement

(because i know people will interpret this in bad faith i'm making this because i've seen enough genuine, unironic "transfeminine people don't be worried if you don't turn out like a petite anime girl :) they're not real" posts enter my mostly trans timeline with enough regularity that i've Been mad about it, and it really just took seeing this one really good post point out that, yeah, that's just a transphobic sentiment, to really drive that home)

#reblogs off because i don't trust like that sorry #like i'm not qualified to talk about the actual differences in depth and experiences nor am i interested in doing so #and that's a thoroughly dead horse anyway and i've never had even passable conversations about it in all the time i was beating it #the specific context here is just that it's like #hard to get people to acknowledge specific ways that even queer communities reflect cultural transmisogyny without it becoming a whole thin #the venn diagram of people that will laugh at the bear post and people that will actually just say that about transfems is almost a circle #and the fact that i can only barely say 'hey transmisogyny might be a real thing' to that circle feels very connected in this moment #i dunno this will probably read like shit in the morning but that's a problem for future me #this is the least acceptable version of a post i've been thinking about for days #but it's the one that happened when i was actually in front of a keyboard

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bitsbug · 10 months

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I’m mostly taking inspiration from something else, but can I take some design notes from your Five Pebbles puppet-y iterator puppet for an OC idea I have? With credit, ofc

oh of course!! I love people getting inspired by my stuff hell yes

First of all I never draw the face emoting in any way (none of my puppet designs even have eyelids), and keep expression to the antennae and body posture. This is because I'm super biased towards inexpressive designs and faces and I like them a lot, so it's not strictly necessary.

Uhh. For Pebbles' in particular, his puppet's literally like a plushie, made of fabric and mostly filled with stuffing, aside from some mechanical components. The arms are jointless and completely flexible.

He's modeled after muppet-style puppets, just without the mouth, so those are good references to look at.

I imagine he does have the wires and cord, I'm usually just.. kinda lazy about drawing it. To avoid interfering with the true arms, the wires are probably more organized than in canon. That's a pinching hazard waiting to happen I swear.

#ask #obligatory talk tag #I don't have any images or diagrams on hand rn. very sad for me because I love diagrams #Hell I might reblog adding one later #hope this suffices for now though!

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vendotlover · 1 year

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