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quinneleanor · 11 months
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One thing I find so interesting about Sam and Dean's childhood is how outsiders must've perceived Dean's outbursts when Sam's safety was at risk.
On the playground, teachers catch Dean pummeling Sam's bully. The kid is on the ground, nose a broken, bloody mess and Dean's still swinging, teeth bared in a silent snarl. Sam is holding his face in his hands, staring, disturbed and somber, at Dean's feral display. Later, there'll be a call from the principal but it's the 90s and John's busy, so of course nobody picks up. The teachers think something is seriously wrong with Dean, but Sam knows the truth. They try to get Dean evaluated by the district's child and adolescent psychiatrist but John's not there to give the green light so it's fruitless. Still, they keep a closer eye on Sam's older brother.
It's that type of raw protectiveness that bleeds into their teenage years and beyond. As an adult, Dean doesn't care how he and Sam are perceived because he's used to the uncomfortable stares, inquiring glances, and veiled whispers. At the end of the day, Sam is his kid, no matter if the dude's a giant grown-ass man. He'll always be that shy, timid kid on that playground.
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tardisbastard · 9 months
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So... in S11E4 Sam is visited by a younger version of his father in a dream. Sam doesn't believe that it's John as the things he's saying and the warnings he's giving about the Darkness require a deeper knowledge of what that is than John would ever have had. I haven't come across any discussions about this, but I think that it was Michael reaching out to him, not God and not Lucifer.
In an earlier episode, a demon tells Crowley that they all heard a screeching coming from the Cage and thought that it was Michael or Lucifer trying to warn them about what was to come. Later on in the season Lucifer tells Sam that he was able to reach out of the cage just enough to implant memories of the Cage into Sam's mind.
I know the Michael in the Cage shares a body with Adam, but Michael did use John as a vessel at one point and Sam is more likely to trust his father than a half-brother he barely knows. Matt is acting a lot like he did when he portrayed Michael, though he does seem a little... softer, more human. I think that may be due to Adam's influence that we witness in season 15.
Idk, I just feel that it's very plausible that Michael made an on-screen appearance in season 11 and wasn't just mentioned in passing by Lucifer. I'm rewatching the entire series now that I'm an adult and I'm picking up on a lot more things than I did as a teenager.
What are your thoughts?
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spn 15x20 explanation masterpost pt 1
Dean's last words to Sam in 15x20 are a copy of his last words from 9x23. The direction, pacing & framing of the scenes also match.
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Iron and nails are common weapons against demons in-canon, while rebar & similar are regularly used as stakes.
A nail that size shouldn't have been fatal, especially not within minutes. Despite this, Dean immediately knew that he was dying and specifically told Sam not to bring him back OR take him to a hospital.
Though extremely out-of-character for him, Dean's behavior as he dies is similar to how many creatures in spn react to iron and/or stakes.
In s10, Demon!Dean was canonically weak to iron.
TLDR: Dean had been a demon for some amount of time before 15x20, and like most demons, an iron stake through the back is fatal.
(While likely a trick of the light, Dean's eyes briefly flicker black during his death in 15x20, and his face appears more jagged & uncanny as well.)
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...Also, Chuck Won. Obviously.
If anyone is interested in the Sam, Cas, Jack etc sides of this analysis, lmk.
@genderanged @unhumanatural @those-aspen-woods @measured-words @chuckwon @very-offkey-kazoo pspspspsps come get yall lore
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I'm working my way through my first watch of the series and I'm coming to the end of Season 6. Specifically, I'm on episode 20 'The Man Who Would Be King.'
(Please don't give me any major spoilers, this is my first watch of the show and I have tried so hard to avoid spoilers like a plague from Pestilence himself.)
I had no choice but to stop watching to write this theory out. I think Cas is in love with Dean. Moreover, I think everyone knows.
So, here are my reasons for my theory:
1) Throughout season 6, characters that talk about the boys to Castiel often mention or draw reference to his 'weakness' or 'sentiment'. If there is anything this show has taught me, it's that sentiment and love, while not a weakness in isolation, can be used as a weak point.
2) Crowley. In Episode 20, there are so many references and mentions of the boys, specifically Dean. "I can smell the impala on your trenchcoat."
3) Rachel. When Cas' lieutenant greets the boys in Cas' stead, she begins to berate them of their treatment of Cas. It's almost like she's a close friend who can see who Cas' heart belongs to and wants nothing more than to hurt Dean, should he take advantage of Cas.
All of this, for me, points to two very clear things. Number one, Cas is in love with Dean Winchester. Number two, anyone who gets close to Cas, that isn't Dean, seems to know.
I just wanted to know if anyone else agreed with me, saw it too, or after reading this realises it 😊
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Supernatural and Good Omens fan here, how come I didn't notice that the angel sigil seen in the first season and now the second season of Good Omens is the same as the one seen in Supernatural?
How come I didn't catch this till the third rewatch?
Am I seeing a crossover?
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pbandjellly · 2 years
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Ayo u guys!
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The winchesters s1ep3
THAT'S JENSEN!
Is it just a cameo or is it BIGGER?!
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kamawingram · 1 year
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#so Why Sam Was Not Looking For Dean While He Was In Purgatory
look. christian commandment of forgiveness. in russian literature, a woman who is close to the author's or simply ideal is capable of forgiveness of the greatest sins, Sonya Marmeladova as an example. she is the first to forgive Raskolnikov for the mistake he made. it does not matter what prompted him to kill. she does not seek to disassemble the theory, to understand what he did, how and why. one thing is important to her - the desire of his soul for sincere repentance. and therefore she becomes a ray of light that leads Raskolnikov to the beginning of the path of purification from his sin.
now let's remember that Dean was literally in purgatory. he purifies his soul. he is undergoing his confession and is ready to enter into a new and brighter future for his soul. so Dean comes back with a cleansed soul, but he still hasn't completed his journey of healing. and he forgives Sam for the mistake he made. his final element in the purification of his soul is the selfless, unconditional and absolute forgiveness of the greatest Sam's sin.
I have a concept that this is the first step on his way to separation from the divine will. when the plotline with Chuck begins, we are told that in fact Winchesters did nothing themselves, they say it was God's will for all this, that is, Chuck. I believe that in the end, the Winchesters will be able to bypass God, because many seasons earlier, the process of freeing their souls was launched. the process of cleansing from the influence of the "wrong" god, which Chuck is. God cannot be a material person with his own weaknesses, cannot desire reunion with Amara and suffer from Winchester sympathy or Winchester antipathy. God is the love that lives inside your soul and forms your system of moral values ​​that guide you through life. God is not someone who sits in the bunker and sips wine with Rovena.
therefore, the Winchesters had to free themselves from the influence of this wrong god in their souls in order to be able to resist him along with the true god. so Dean had to forgive Sam and go through purgatory, and Sam had to make a mistake in order to UNDERSTAND what is truly important and valuable to them. out of regret for his action, Sam recreates the boundaries of right and wrong.
Winchesters purify their souls from different sides of the same situation - through repentance and forgiveness, like Raskolnikov and Sonya.
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greendeanwinchester · 7 months
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In season 14 episode 10, Nihilism, when Micheal traps Dean in his own mind while possessing Dean, he creates a fake version of Pamela along with a bar in order to keep him there. However, isn't it strange that Pamela is there, and not someone else Dean had a stronger connection to? No. In season 5 episode 16, Dark Side of the Moon (Sam and Dean go to heaven), Dean has a conversation with Pamela that makes him start thinking about saying yes to Michael, even though he doesn't end up doing so in that season.
(PAMELA: Yeah, well, close enough. Look, Dean, I’m happy. I’m at peace.
DEAN: What? Are you trying to sell me a time share? I mean, what’s with the pitch?
PAMELA: (chuckling) I know that Michael wants to take you out for a test drive.
DEAN: (interrupting) Pamela…
PAMELA: Just saying. What happens if you play ball with them? Worst case.
DEAN: A lot of people die.
PAMELA: And then they come here. Is that really so bad? Look. Maybe… you don’t have to fight it so hard. That’s all I’m trying to say.)
Pamela tells him that it wouldn't be so bad if Dean let Michael possess him. I think this is why she is in his mind prison that Michael creates in season 14. She tried to convince Dean to say yes to Michael, and almost did, therefore causing Michael to use her as a trick.
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aldobrandohotel · 10 months
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Hi everyone me and my friend just discovered that the number one in the Eorah Alphabet is really similar to the Mark of Cain.
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What are your theories about the supernatural aspects of the plot for S5? I think Vecna is the final boss, but at the same time, it looks like his humanoid form has been destroyed. So how do you think he will come back? And how will he be defeated (since El wasn’t able to do it). I know ppl say Will is gonna be important but he wasn’t able to defeat him before either, so I don’t see how it’s gonna end. And there won’t be any new character=deus ex machina. Maybe Jancy and Jopper investigating further Henry’s past and finding out weakness that El and Will could exploit?
Hmmm well Vecna seems to not be in his humanoid form so he could appear as as another creature in the UD (like maybe the MF?), or he could reconstitute himself by targeting people. Or he might not be in another form at all and still look like Vecna—after all, when Henry was sent through the portal, he reconstituted as Henry before looking more and more Vecna like, so maybe he’ll still look like Vecna but more damaged.
I think the key to defeating him could involve unfreezing the UD first, because then the right side up should be able to affect the UD. I wonder if the clock was crucial not just as a countdown to opening the portals, but also to the UD being frozen. I’ve seen some theory that the clock is like a horcrux, so to destroy Vecna, you’d have to destroy it. That’s v interesting. But that seems to rip off Harry Potter too much, altho I think there has to be some significance to the clock and the UD being frozen and that there will be something with revisiting Nov 6, 1983 (if not thru time travel).
Another way to get Vecna would be either through what you’re saying, something else from his past, since we know there will be further flashbacks seemingly with Henry/Brenner. Also figuring out the history of the UD and its evolution is crucial to bringing it all down—will someone again be able to or forced (like Nancy was) into seeing the history of the UD and that’s a way to get him? I also think destroying the hive mind is crucial to all this—to destroy Vecna and the UD, you have to cut Vecna off from the MF and from any kind of sentience in the UD.
Those are a bunch of theories but I have no idea what the order would be—like what needs to happen first. It feels like you need to unfreeze the UD to get Vecna and the MF and hive mind and then destroy the UD.
I think/hope Will becomes crucial because they need to unfreeze the UD and revisit that day and his role in the formation of the UD possibly. It also interlinks Will and El bc it’s really two things that happened that day: El opening the gate and Will getting taken, and we don’t know which event exactly formed the UD as we know it (the blue one). I also feel like Max being free from her coma will be impt but might come late, as that could affect the portals, but idk or somehow be used to weaken Vecna. Vecna repeating that everyone is with him also feels like a clue, but not one I know what to do with. It should not be that everyone he took comes back to life, but just Max who is in an indeterminate/in between state.
I could see Jancy and Jopper doing something like that, but we’ve already had a Nancy plot of looking into Vecna’s past, so I’d like to see them more directly involved in the unfreezing of the UD. Or with anything related to Will. And El.
What other theories do people have about the supernatural plot, or are there any good ones you’ve seen that you like?
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church-of-lilith · 4 months
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an eventful january 9th
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🅱️ A L L S
tanuki!Bobby statue
I do wonder why this isn't a more popular hc
(statue by me)
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glygriffe · 1 year
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I just watched Roadkill (s2e16) and how Molly moved on in a burst of light... I think a reaper hugged her the way Tessa embraced Cole Griffith in Death takes a holiday (s4e15). And it's probably the way father Gregory was able to move on in House of the holy (s2e 13) even if father Reynolds last rites probably summoned the reaper to start the process.
We just didn't see the reapers in those instances because they are not visible to corporeal/living beings. (Unless they want to... or unless you are a Winchester and the writers decided you died enough times to be able to see them whenever it's convenient for the plot.)
It sure makes more sense with the earlier seasons' show lore that way than Molly just wishing herself to change planes of existence.
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what-fandom-again · 1 month
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Sam: let's play a game. It's called "Baby or Cas."
Jack: Whats that?
Sam: I tell you quotes I've heard Dean say, and you tell me if he was talking to the impala or Cas
Dean, rolling his eyes: Ha ha ha, Sam. Very funny
Crowley: Fine, moose. I'll partake in your little "game".
Sam: "If anything happens to you, I'm killing everyone involved and then myself".
Jack:
Dean:
Crowley: Oh dear, this was harder than I thought
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strawlessandbraless · 2 months
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There were things...people, feelings that he wanted to experience differently than he had before. Or maybe even for the first time
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drchucktingle · 5 months
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WOW. WHO REMEMBERS THIS SCENE? COINCIDENCE?
preorder bury your gays
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