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iamafanofcartoons · 1 year

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Why “It could be better” is not used as legit criticism anymore, but just as attacks on a show.

"It could be better" is a statement that could be made about pretty much any show, any book series, anything.

But if all you do is use that as an excuse to criticize without ever offering praise of the things you do like, you aren't a fan. You’re just insulting the media while claiming to be a fan to avoid being called a hater; a common tactic employed by RWBY Critics who harass fans while crying that they themselves are somehow victims of the RWBY Fandom.

If I didn't just describe you, then I'm not talking about you, and you have no need to defend yourself because again I am not talking about you.

If I did just describe you, look inward to solve the problem instead of lashing outward.

But at the end of the day, if you’re going to offer criticism in the form of “this could be better” you best be making sure you have good things to say in the first place.

I always find it funny whenever someone makes a post like this or talk about rwby critics, how much people act like they’re the most toxic person who can’t handle criticism, when post like these usually refer to people who aren’t in favor of the show and talk about how much rwby sucks or is trash and is a dumpster fire they can’t help but watch. Those people often disguise their hatred as a critique and think anyone calling them out on it, is you somehow not liking criticism when that isn’t true at all.

When it becomes all you are talking about, you never have any praise, your feedback is overwhelmingly negative, why keep watching? You are wasting your own time and everyone else who actually enjoys the show and has to put up with your constant whining then.

Like I said, to be considered a fan of something, you have to actually like it. To paraphrase a wise man, if it isn't enjoyable, why bother?

https://www.reddit.com/r/fnki/comments/z7a38k/in_the_same_fashion_that_tyrian_is_a_fan_of_life/

Here, let me show you what I saw.

#rwby #legend of korra #tlok asami #the legend of korra #she-ra #she ra and the princesses of power #spop #fandom discourse #Tyrian Callows

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dougydoug8797 · 1 month

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https://www.tumblr.com/adoradeservesbetter

These two anti Glimmadora Stan(@anti-glimmadora-receipts and @adoradeservesbetter) who treat Catradora like a Devine religion is an example of C//A Stans with a cult mentality and mindset along with a toxic MAGA behavior. Catra stans are the most unhinged fans of the fandom. Toxic fandoms are the absolute worst, she ra is getting worse by the day. Netflix She-Ra was a bad show, is dead and deserves to be. The show's fanbase is disgusting and toxic. She-ras fandom is toxic and they don’t know it. It’s almost as if they have some emotional attachment to the ship that’s very unhealthy and gets to the point where they cannot stand the thought of someone disagreeing with them. Very similar to the MAGA Cult. That’s right I am here to say that Catra Stans/Fan, Catradora Stans/Fans, the entire Nu-She-Ra fandom and ND Stevenson have the mindset of Donald Trump and his MAGA Trump cult. Catra Stans/Fan, Catradora Stans/Fans, the entire Nu-She-Ra fandom, ND Stevenson Donald Trump and his MAGA Trump cult are ableist, toxic, bigoted, ignorant and narcissistic. Catra Stans/Fan, Catradora Stans/Fans, the entire Nu-She-Ra fandom and ND Stevenson are no different than Donald Trump and his MAGA Trump cult, and Horde Prime. I compare Catradora stans/fans and mainly the entire Catra stans/fan/fan base/fandom to MAGA/Trump Stans-Supporters. They are both unhinged, they can’t take truth and criticism seriously which resorts to them sending death threats and they treat Catra, Trump, the She Ra fandom, ND Stevenson(Nate Stevenson), and the SPOP like a religion and see them as gods or as if they are made by god himself via see ND Stevenson(Nate Stevenson) as a god himself. ND Stevenson(Nate Stevenson) and Donald Trump are both immature narcissists and egomaniacs and their fans and supporters are similar in way.

#anti toxic fandom #anti stans #anti catradora comunity #anti shera #anti catradora fandom #spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #anti catradora #anti spop #fuck trump #anti trump #fuck maga #anti maga

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snailslovesketching · 1 year

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is catradora a toxic ship? my opinion that no asked for :)

TW: discussion of toxicity, abusive relationships and trauma; pls take care of yourself :)

Hey snails,

I started rewatching She-ra and the Princesses of Power for the third time recently, so suffice to say I am a big fan. The ship catradora, which is the ship name for characters Adora and Catra in case you don’t know, is honestly very important to me as a lesbian. Calling a ship from a show ‘important’ may sound dramatic to some of you, but it’s the truth. I was just coming into my identity as a lesbian when I watched the show because I heard it had good queer representation. Catra and Adora’s relationship was one of the first relationships between two queer women that I’d seen in media which was actually written by a queer person, and it meant so much to me as a baby gay. I’m not even a particularly emotional person when it comes to the media I watch, so it surprised me when I got emotional watching their love confession scene for the first time. It was and still means a lot to me that ND Stevenson and everyone behind She-ra worked so hard to get representation in the show, and I’ll forever be grateful to them for doing so.

Now that I’m watching the show for the third time, however, I’m starting to view their relationship more critically. Perhaps due to me being older and more comfortable in my queer identity, along with seeing discussions of their relationship online. It is an unfortunate truth that Catra treats Adora like shit for most of the show. She is an undoubtedly toxic person, and that brings into question whether, after everything she’s done, she deserves Adora. I’m going to provide my own opinions on this discussion and analyse whether catradora is a toxic relationship. To do so, I’m going to split this discussion into three main categories - what makes a relationship toxic? What toxic behaviours are present between Catra and Adora? And, lastly, is catradora a toxic ship overall?

Firstly, what makes a relationship toxic in the first place? In my research, I found a quotation from an article by verywellmind.com (Toxic Relationships: Signs, Types, and How to Cope (verywellmind.com) which I feel sums it up quite well: ‘A relationship is toxic when your well-being is threatened in some way - emotionally, psychologically, and even physically’. A toxic relationship will provide more negativity than positivity to your life and well-being. A person in a toxic relationship may question why they even involved themselves with that person in the first place, but simultaneously find it difficult to let go of them due to happy memories shared and the manipulation tactics employed by the toxic person to keep the other person trapped in the relationship.

Common traits of a toxic relationship are gaslighting (making someone doubt their own thoughts and experiences), victim blaming, isolating the person from their loved ones, constant arguing - and having to walk on eggshells around them as a result, controlling behaviour and generally feeling bad after being around the toxic person for an extended period of time.

So, which of these signs of a toxic relationship are present between Catra and Adora, and how persistent are they throughout the five seasons? Catra is obviously the main person perpetrating most of these behaviours. She blames Adora for abandoning her and ruining their friendship despite Adora offering to bring Catra with her. In other words, Catra guilt trips her. She acts as if Adora was in the wrong for wanting to leave the Horde despite it being very understandable why she’d do so. This isn’t just a heat-of-the-moment reaction as well, as she continues to blame Adora for ‘abandoning’ her even after being given multiple chances to join Adora. There’s the more obvious abuse that takes place while they’re enemies, with Catra insulting Adora, physically hurting and trying to murder her - just casual stuff. She also attempts to separate Adora from her friends from the very beginning - trying to isolate her to make her more vulnerable and easy to manipulate. Catra guilt trips Adora and blames her for issues Catra caused; she belittles Adora constantly; and is generally a very manipulative person, not just to Adora but to other characters such as Entrapta who she’s meant to be friends with.

Of course, there is the elephant in the room that needs to be discussed, that being Catra and Adora’s shared trauma—due to Shadow Weaver treating Adora as the golden child who can do no wrong and Catra being the one who gets the blame for every mistake pinned on her. As a result, Adora has a saviour complex and Catra is starved for affection and validation, taking much of her anger out on the ‘perfect’ Adora who always received the favour from Shadow Weaver that Catra wanted. This makes her staying with the Horde more understandable. She wanted to prove herself to Shadow Weaver and perhaps saw Adora being gone as the perfect opportunity to do so. It can also provide an explanation for some of her toxic behaviour later on in the series, as it becomes clear that Catra is simply repeating the abusive behaviour she was subjected to her by her only mother figure as a child. It should not, however, excuse this behaviour completely, because even if her actions are understandable given the circumstances it doesn’t magically make everything she did to Adora okay. She treated Adora terribly and Adora is in her full rights to not forgive Catra if she wants to. But as anyone who has watched the show knows, she does forgive Catra in the end. So one must ask… was Catra’s redemption deserved?

In my opinion, as much as this ship means to me, Catradora is indeed toxic for most of the show. I believe the way Catra’s redemption arc was handled was the main issue. She stays a consistently bad person for all four seasons, showing a lack of a moral compass from the first episode. While the show does a great job making the audience pity her by showing her trauma involving Shadow Weaver, thus giving us insight into why she acts the way she does, it doesn’t necessarily mean she deserves redemption. She doesn’t show much sign that she’ll become good and join the rebellion until season five, where the switch happens very suddenly, and then they’re confessing their love for each other even more suddenly. Personally, if my old friend had been on the opposite side of a war and attempted to kill me multiple times, just to pull a 180 and say they’d always loved me, I think I’d have a hard time believing them.

If I were to rewrite their relationship to make a redemption arc work, I think dedicating more time to Catra’s redemption arc would be beneficial. This could create more interesting dynamics between the characters as Catra works with the rebellion and slowly gains their trust, building a healthy relationship with Adora and working through their issues, so that by the time they’re getting together they’re both at points in their lives where they’ve healed from their shared trauma and are ready for a relationship. I do acknowledge that to some extent the show did this, but I believe it needed more time to truly redeem Catra as it rushed through her arc too quickly. Making Catra less murdery would also be a good idea in my opinion, since attempting to murder your significant other is a pretty hard thing to come back from. Or Catra could at least show some remorse and regret about it - it would still be bad, don’t get me wrong, but there could be a tragic element to it if Catra felt like she was forced to hurt Adora because of their circumstances and showed a lot of angsty regret while doing so. More signs that Catra still cares for Adora would be good, like in season 1 episode 9 where Catra begrudgingly delivers the sword to Adora and tells her to leave, helping her escape the Horde. More moments like this could show Catra’s love for Adora in a very in-character way and remind the audience that these two were actually very close at one point, thus making their reunion more satisfying. Lastly, after everything Catra has done I don’t think Adora should be required to forgive her. Although, it is a show primarily for children so I understand why they did have her do so as they wanted a happy ending.

Overall, I believe catradora could have been written better. Now that I’ve done research into both sides of this argument, I understand why people argue catradora is a toxic ship and to a certain extent, I agree with them. I don’t think this ship is beyond redemption, and neither is Catra, but Catra’s redemption arc could use some rewriting to make that happen. In other words, Catra should be more like Zuko from Avatar: The Last Airbender, rather than Azula, to who Catra is strikingly similar for most of the series. I will leave it at that. If you know, you know ;)

Thanks for reading :D

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dirt-apple-productions · 11 months

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Why do Catra Stans/Fans and Catradora stans attack, bash, berate, belittle, bully, and degrade anti Catradora fans, Glimmadora fans/shippers and Shadow Weaver fans and Why are Catra Stans/Fans and Catradora stans along with the entire She Ra fandom highly toxic?

A few reasons. Fair warning, I’m going to be very blunt under the cut. Don’t like, don’t read.

She-Ra is a kids’ show and the target audience is 10-15yo’s. Aka the most immature little bleeps on the planet. These people don’t know how to behave themselves and many of them were not taught netiquette at all growing up. A lot of them will grow out of it eventually if given time and patience.

They strap their identities too much to their sexuality and therefore to the show that affirms their identity as gay, bi, trans, etc. I’m not saying their sexuality is something they can control or something that isn’t a part of their identity, but it becomes unhealthy the moment they call someone homophobic for like, not shipping an objectively abusive and legally incestuous relationship (that being C//A) - when 99.9% of the time it has nothing to do with being straight or being accepting of LGBT+ people or anything like that.

Black and white thinking with Shadow Weaver. That also ties in with this childish idea that the world is divided into oppressors and victims. Victims are incapable of being abusive because they are victims, and abusers are incapable of being victims or even being human because they’re abusers. This is why you have people cheering on Shadow Weaver’s suicide.

I would highly recommend being patient and blocking them since most of them are kids. But it’s always one of those 3 reasons, if not more.

#spop #she ra #spop critical #anti c//a #anti catradora #anti c/a #fandom #fandom drama #discourse

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spop-romanticizes-abuse · 6 months

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i— hmm.. i don't know if i should laugh or cry. are c//a stans really this dumb? how do they connect catra punching adora with her “trying to protect adora”? what even is going on inside their brains anymore? has it been turned to mush by the constant exposure to the poor writing of this show?

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spopsalt · 4 months

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Honestly, the spop fandom will complain that the spop anti community is mean, but in my experience, it's literally one of the nicest, welcoming and most accepting communities I've been in meanwhile I've literally seen someone in the spop fandom tell someone else to kys because they didnt like their abusive little meow meow, not to mention that the spop fandom just jumps to insults when you don't like their abusive little meow meow or the show.

#anti spop #spop criticism #spop crit #spop discourse #anti catra #spop salt #spop critical #anti spop fandom #ofc not everyone in that spop fandom is like that #But there's a lot

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nny11writes · 9 months

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Nunny! I'm sending you asks for your game.

I'm tempted to send you the entire post and just see the Nunny Rant. You might not even do She-ra. I'm thinking of She-ra sending these but go off about star wars or something else if you think it applies better to the question :D

the character everyone gets wrong (ahahhahahaaaaaaaaa)

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about (im sure there is a long list)

9 and 10 - Worst part of fanon and worst part of canon (imo there is some overlap)

13. worst blorboficiation

14. that one thing you see in fics all the time

25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

lakhglkajfas, I think my rant would mostly just be keyboard smashes and crying emojis so this is the better way to go lol!

the character everyone gets wrong God, like, fucking- ALL of them. :) Buuuuuut the one that's bugging me the most recently is Mermista.

I am SO sick of post canon Mermista in c/a fics specifically. Mermista would not hold a grudge that hard that long and that violently!!! Stop having her hate Catra and actively be out to do harm to her. Mermista's response to losing her kingdom was like a bad breakup where she just cried in a tub eating ice cream. Her response to seeing HORDAK at the end of the series was just a, "So are we good with him now?" implying that she's chill to be chill.

Mermista and Catra 100% would sit at a table calling one another a bitch (begrudgingly fond and pretend to not be) back and forth. Mermista would not be out to skin Catra alive! Mermista wants to talk to Catra about her murder novels because Perfuma reads too slowly and doesn't like spoilers but she NEEDS to talk to someone about the butler who has a brain cell because Sea Hawk seemed to miss the whole first half of the book AND FURTHER MORE-

9. and 10. - Worst part of fanon and worst part of canon

Worst part of fanon is the fucking shippers. This went from one of the more open and accepting fandoms for all ships that I'd ever been in to one of the worst.

Like, straight up, one of the fics that lives rent free in my head is an explicit fic where Catra and Hordak enthusiastically consent to having sex. Like Hordak is trying to be kinda standoffish but can't stop looking at boob window tits, he was Entrapta trained I'm afraid. The number of times I think of his awkward proposing they do it more frequently followed shortly by Catra dressing and winking saying, "Seriously, great cock!" is a lot lol. It's such a porn movie style fic and there is something fantastic to be said about it.

But you even hint that Catra could be headcanonned as anything besides a lesbian and your body will be found in a few months time in several different bags. Suggesting Catra and Hordak having any romantic or sexual relationship probably gets you reported to the fucking government or something. So there's a reason it's never made a rec list from me but fuck it I'm mentioning it now.

They aren't real. If I want to occasionally have a giggle about them and make my little dolls bump uglies everyone else should politely not look while my fellow weirdly sane people who get that this is all make believe but sure we're the freaks here come poke and enjoy!

Fucking shipping wars and discourse man. I'm sick of it.

Worst part of canon for me is the censorship and uncertainty that caused various issues with the plot and prevented the show from being even stronger. You can see it in real time while watching, but man it was wild in December 2018 to see how professional media talked about the show and Catra and Adora being adoptive sisters, to AJ (I think?) getting dumped on for repeating that idea and having to apologize, to the open gayness at the end. I love SPOP, but the rocky terrain the crew-ra had to navigate really did impact the quality and created weird gaps that asshole fans hunkered down into. Like, we cannot pry some of those fuckers out.

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

I need you to understand that my immediate response when I started writing this answer out was a very strained and painful sigh through my nose as my brain returned a static white noise sound.

I am really tired of forcing this jock!Adora and slacker!Catra thing. Like, it started in modern AUs but it's gone and infected people's idea of canon as well. It falls into a bit of the "dumb adora" trope, which people just don't seem to actually understand what that means or is about. It also falls into Shadow Weaver's narrative of who Catra is which is wild. Like. Really wild.

You are telling me Catra, a cat person who grew up in a military, is actively against exercise? Yes, she would 100% sleep in a sunbeam for a nap, and then she wakes up and craves some low key chaos and violence.

You are telling me Adora, forced into a golden child and leadership position, is bad at reading and math and science because all she cares about is training? Adora 100% enjoys physical fitness and using her body, but she's got a sharp mind on her and there's no way in hell she doesn't like to work it too.

I am just exhausted with it in modern AUs, and now it has gone to infect canon interpretations. It flattens their characters out, ignores/denies parts of their abuse, and nukes their abilities from orbit. I hate it so so much.

Also if I have to see one more fic or art piece where Catra is willingly and happily wearing dresses, skirts, and heels I swear to fucking god I will KILL. :)

13. worst blorboficiation

Again, this is all of them. Everyone suffers from being blorbo'd to an insane degree, but it just shifts depending on which character is the favorite of that part of the fandom. You have talked several times about the insanity of Catra fans vs. Hordak fans, the blorboification is insane there. Same with Catra fans vs. Glimmer fans.

Like. God damn. I'm so glad the Adora vs. Catra fan fights died out real quick because this fandom is exhausting enough.

With Catra being my favorite it's extra exhausting because there is CONSTANTLY people attacking her and then total asshats trying to defend her who I do not want to be associated with. I love her. She's a fucking idiot and a bastard and a baby. Somehow, every take on her is both the worst and factually correct and then the fandom fights.

Tipsy, I. Am. Tired.

14. that one thing you see in fics all the time

OKAY

Let's fucking talk about how GLIMMER IS NOT AN EVIL BITCH. Can we talk about that? STOP TRYING TO LEAVE THIS POST AND SIT YOUR ASS DOWN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN because someone needs to hear it louder in the back.

Glimmer is the character who is probably be done the dirtiest by the fandom but for wildly different reasons throughout the whole show. Hands down.

After S1 fandom took Glimmer and made her into an entitled dumbass whiner who threw money and her titles at her problems. They made her act like a child without any complexity. And it 100% took me from not really liking her character much to detesting her which is outrageous every time I remember that I kinda hated her at that point.

This did not improve post S2. :)

Post S3 probably was the most sympathetic and understanding the fandom was to Glimmer but it came at the cost of trying to bulldoze Catra for the Portal and people making callout posts like these characters were real people. I feel like the rise of some of the G/A shippers that I really can't stand was around this time. It was catra vs. glimmer fans going bat shit and drawing lines for ships.

If they couldn't assassinate Glimmer's character, by god the fandom would assassinate both Catra and Adora's in wildly different ways instead!

Do I need to talk about post S4? The idea of dark Glimmer and Glimmer going off the rails should have been a fun thing to play with in the sandbox and instead just writing it down made me cringe. Now Glimmer has to be an evil bitch because she had a trauma response and made bad decisions, now she is irredeemable because I made up a situation where she did something she didn't in canon for reasons so OOC someone probably slapped Donut Steel on it somewhere.

There was a little lift post series, but man people are holding onto Glimmer being a spoiled brat to play off of for Catra or a cruel bitch for Catra and, again, as a Catra fan, I want to bite bite kill kill bite kill kill kill!!!

Glimmer is allowed to grow up from being a spoiled kid who had good intentions and was naive. She is allowed to be over eager, bratty, petty, silly, funny, caring, and smart too. She's allowed to make bad choices and struggle with how to recover from it.

STOP MAKING ME THE LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE MEME FOR GLIMMER

25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

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#choose violence ask game #spop #she ra #long post #my hot takes that are very true and correct and somehow someone will say I'm wrong #love how much I'm like ''wish more people would be active in the fandom''#and also ''MORE OF YOU NEED TO LEAVE NOW'' I am #stahp pitting bad bitches against one another #also #deadly serious #SHUT UP ABOUT REDEMPTION ARCS #I do not care who did or did not have one according to other fans who want to torture their least fave #*creaky old man voice* back in my day we wrote hate fic as a hobby not a religion!#you know that joke about seeing discourse that's like watching a dark shadow pass below your boat?#sometimes I see the fucking leviathan pop its head out to try and convince me of who deserves love and happiness #in the show about how EVERYONE is deserving of love and making your own happiness as you heal #and I feel like the protagonist from Dredge just pretending I don't see it to get back to shore

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sjbattleangel · 1 year

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Something occurred to me...

Let me be hypothetical here:

If series like “She-Ra” and “Steven Universe” were made by groups of cis-het white men, there would be little to no backlash from fellow leftists; almost no “SU critical” or “SPOP critical” discourse.

If series like “She-Ra” and “Steven Universe” were made with ATLA-styled animation, there would be no animation snobs constantly lambasting their own unique, pastel-coloured animation for being “too lifeless”, “too off-model”, “too stiff” and so on.

If series like “She-Ra” and “Steven Universe” were made by the same team of white guys behind ATLA-same story beats included-then their LGTBQ+ representation would be universally applauded rather then constantly condemned as “queerbaiting” and “not good enough.”

Let me be clear by saying “She-Ra”, “Steven Universe” and “Avatar: The Last Airbender” are three animated series I adore immensely. Yet sadly, ever since ATLA’s release, it has set new standard of animation snobbery where any cartoon that doesn’t perfectly emulate its writing, animation or general feel is seen as “disposable garbage”, even if that cartoon is good. Yet there is another thing here:

Animation made by people from marginalised groups-such as Rebecca Sugar and Nate Stevenson-are held to super unreachable, unrealistic standards. Even worse is how those impossible standards are held by marginalized groups and progressive thinkers. (and I speak as a radical-left queer socialist myself.) No matter how hard creators like Sugar and Stevenson try for LGTBQ+ representation, for many they are never “good enough.”

No matter how much flak shows like VLD and “The Dragon Prince” (both shows I enjoy) get for killing-off prominent gay characters, their backlash pales in comparison to the utter pitchforks-and-torches vitriol thrown the way of “Steven Universe” and “She-Ra”, along with constant accusations of “queerbaiting” and “rainbow blackface” despite being two of the most openly LGTBQ+ positive animated series of all time, both of which also-get this-do not even kill-off any gay characters.

Morty, speak my feellings:

Just a little something to think about.

#she-ra and the princesses of power #she-ra #steven universe #in defence of steven universe #in defence of she-ra #atla #avatar the last airbender #animation #animation discorse #double standards #anti-su critical #anti-spop critical #anti-steven universe critical #anti-she-ra critical #voltron legendary defender #the dragon prince #fandom discourse #ramblings

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tippenfunkaport · 2 years

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All this time I've been like WHY are people in this fandom so weird about acknowledging the passage of time on this show?? and I got an anon that made me finally understand what this is really about.

The beginning reads, "sorry but no matter what and for nefarious reasons… there's no way '3 years passed'" followed by a long rant on why teen characters shouldn't be shipped with adults. And I read this and literally laughed aloud and said, "Is THIS what this is really about?"

So, to review…

Me: 2-3 years pass over the course of the show Anon: Teenagers should not be shipped with adults!

As the meme says, that is a whole new sentence!

What if I absolutely blew your mind and told you that you can acknowledge the passage of time on the show… because it's freaking right in front of us and it's downright silly to pretend it isn't… and still not think teenagers should be shipped with adults? Because that's the conversation I'm having, regardless of any "what and nefarious reasons" you are trying to add onto it.

The show itself is very clear on this! There's a reason we see Adora and Bow drool over Huntara and Sea Hawk (respectively) but we never see the adults reciprocate or flirt back with the teens. Would I personally ship those pairings in canon? Absolutely not! But fandom is fandom and if someone makes an AU where Huntara a cool college senior while Adora is a freshman in the same university… I have trouble seeing where there's anything wrong with that. And pretending no time passes over the course of the show isn't going to change what people ship.

Are you under the impression that if you stick your head in the sand and pretend that the events of the entire series happen over the course of one really wacky day, that no one will ship any teen / adult pairings? Because I hate to break this to you, anon, but that's not going to happen. We live in a depraved world.

You are trying to creating this false equivalence where people who acknowledge the passage of time are only doing so because they are nefarious (and.. "what") creeps who ship minors and adults when the two things have NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.

Look, I am not here to contradict your age headcanons. I've noticed the biggest reason people get so heated about this is because they like to headcanon their favorite characters as their own age and I don't want to get in the way of that. And if you enjoy headcanoning that the whole show happens over the course of a week, I give you my blessing! But you can't get angry when other people don't share that headcanon, especially when it's contradicted by the canon itself!

Several years pass over the course of the show. The BFS are teens for most of the run. Some other characters are adults. All of these are statements of fact and there is nothing inherently evil about acknowledging them.

(The rest of this anon was an incoherent rant (maybe typed in haste?) about how it's impossible for 2-3 years to have passed because only 2 years pass (??) and making up a guy to get mad about so it feels like punching down to post the full thing. But I did want to address this part because it felt like we'd finally gotten to the real reason people get so antsy about the timeframe.)

#spop #shera #she ra #age discourse #asks #'what and nefarious' would make great evil minion names #if people desperately what this whole anon I'll post it but it's very long and barely makes sense #I am not here to police anyone's fandom experience or contradict headcanons #let me make that clear #but I also don't appreciate people acting like acknowledging what happens on the show automatically makes you creepy and evil

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