#she deserves to be redeemed

[bixels]

Cozy Glow is such an interesting litmus test for die-hard bronies. I was checking r/mlp to prep a post and there’s a discussion post about how she deserved what she got and. How do I tell bronies that children should not be tried as adults. How do I tell bronies that psychopaths and sociopaths deserve human rights and treatment and support. How do I tell bronies that cruel and unusual punishments are bad. How do I tell bronies that the death penalty is wrong. How do I tell bronies that a ruling body should not have absolute say over putting someone to death, least of all a 6-year-old child.

These are all my recent google searches.

#delete later #personal #these are all arguments I saw of why cozy glow deserved it btw #“if she was human she’d be tried as an adult for her felonies idc if she’s a child’ ok but she shouldn’t #“clearly she’s a psychopath so it makes sense she’s evil’ do you even hear yourself #reminder that they redeemed the racist politician trying to keep schools racial segregated because he believed in pony superiority #and not the 6 year old child villain #I don’t even really care about cozy glow she’s not gonna be in the AU but people are so fucking weird about her #“some people are just born evil and can’t be changed’ < actual arguement in the thread. do you hear yourself

[livelovecaliforniadreams]

A Round Of Applause For Rebecca Welton Growth 👏

+Bonus

#the only redeeming thing this season #the only #everything else was a disaster honestly #tedbecca #the growth #started from the bottom now we're here #im not crying you are #sobbing #im so proud of her #hannah deserves all the awards #everyone else nope #she carried this season on her back #ted lasso #tedlassoedit #ted x rebecca #rebecca x ted #hannah waddingham #jason sudeikis #rebecca welton #love #gif #gifs #gifset

[lorcandidlucienwill]

“Didn’t …,” Tamlin interrupted, his deep voice surprisingly gentle, “didn’t your mother tell you anything about us?” I prodded the table with my forefinger, digging my short nails into the wood. “My mother didn’t have the time to tell me stories.” I could reveal that part of my past, at least. Lucien, for once, didn’t laugh. After a rather stilted pause, Tamlin asked, “How did she die?” When I lifted my brows, he added a bit more softly, “I didn’t see signs of an older woman in your house.”

Tamlin is observant. Tamlin is observant. TAMLIN IS OBSERVANT. So what the actual fuck was book 2? We never got a proper explanation! Smells like *retcons*

#i think she just forgot she wrote tamlin to be observant #and she got lazy and didn't care to make rhysand have any genuinely redeeming characteristics but rather just make him a mind-reader #so he automatically knows everything wrong with feyre #how is this hot? beats me #tamlin #pro tamlin #tamlin deserves better #anti acomaf #acotar

[bohemian-nights]

Rhaenyra being forced at nineteen (when most noble born women are betrothed when they’re children and married sometimes before their sixteen to men twice their age) to marry (after being allowed to tour the seven kingdoms to find a husband of her choosing) isn’t sexist. Heirs both female and male have to have a heir to continue the line. Politically marrying Laenor Velaryon is a smart move but Rhaenyra was only forced to marry Laenor because of her inability to choose one on her tour and the fact that she was seen in wh*re house allegedly having sex with not only her Uncle but with Daemon. I understand Rhaenyra’s reasons for not wanting to marry (i.e her mother) but by wanting to eventually be Queen she has to bite the bullet and do it.

And as for her leaving Kings Landing I’m pretty 50/50. I understand why she left but leaving and not returning for six years was a big no no. This is more of a side note but her and Daemon ragging on the fact that Alicent changed the design of the Red Keep makes me angry. It’s been six years and Alicent is Queen Consort to a sick and dying King (a King who treats both herself and their children horribly) let her decorate how she wants to. And with all the sick sh*t the Targaryens do they need Jesus lol (another thing the way they made it seem as if Alicent is the only person wanting Aegon and Helaena to marry makes me mad. Book!wise Viserys and Viserys alone does that. By having Alicent arrange that the two be married makes her a very main cause of her children’s suffering).

As for Daemon himself he’s a sh*t father and a sh*t husband. He “tries” but he should try 100x harder. So why he thinks he should have an opinion on what goes on in a home he hasn’t laid his head down in for sixteen years is beyond my understanding lol.

Nothing to add. These are all the facts💅🏽

#lol rhaenyra had options #she had freedom and agency but she did what she wanted and wound up in the belly of a dragon because of it #Every action has a consequence #daemon being upset at alicent cause of redecorating 🤦🏽‍♀️ #Alicent deserved to do what she wished in her own home while being the primary caretaker of gollum 👏🏽 #daemon is lucky she didn’t redecorate the keep with viserys blood👏🏽 #let me stop #he loved his brother but he was a sh*tty brother too #his redeeming qualities are lacking on this show #they’ve pretty much put the job now solely on nettles when he had an okay marriage with laena too #bnask #bnasks #anti rhaenyra targaryen #daemon targaryen #anti viserys i targaryen #alicent hightower #zaddy can be redeemed but it’s only you netty 😭

[raccoonnutella13]

its so weird to me personally that some people think that it doesnt make sense for craig to be nice to wildernessa but still hate jason (up until scout guest), but to me the worst thing wildernessa has done is say that craig doesnt know shit about nature vs jason whos basically like "ok tony now hit the second tower" for the majority of his screentime, and people wonder why craig doesnt trust him most of the time huh

#like i truly feel that jason does eventually redeem himself and its deserved. but cmon he literally dammed the creek its no wonder #that craig doesnt like him. he doesnt get the chance to see that jason has changed to become a better person until scout guest #it just seems odd to me that people are willing to forgive jason for doing #lets be honest #much worse things than vanessa. and hes still redeemable. #but vanessa doesnt get to be redeemable just bc shes a little arrogant? #its just like. whatever! theyre kids! they know who they want to hang out with! thats like a big theme of the show! #i digress #ive rambled too much #anyways #craig of the creek #cotc #wildernessa #jason cotc #coon speaks

[ilynpilled]

i can fully understand the gripes with certain misogynistic tropes/writing issues that are present in the execution of some of cersei’s writing, but i will never understand the “she should have a redemption arc” or “she should be more likeable/less morally dark” perspective. that is not what her character is or has to be to make it great. wanting more female anti-heroes or “redemption arcs” with moral greyness and complexity of the level that asoiaf gives to primarily male characters is entirely understandable, but do some of you people even like cersei as a character, like at its core? like this is not about criticising the execution of certain things when it comes to this character, this is about taking issue with her as a villain fundamentally, which i just do not agree with at all

#i also do not understand why she is juxtaposed only w her brothers #in this respect #like if u wanna take issue w not as many female anti heroes that r allowed the level of true moral greyness of j theon etc i get that #but thats a whole text problem like a family isnt a monolith they r different characters with different drives its not a competition between #them #all three r dealing w some very very diff things too like they r distinct characters #and i honestly dont think cersei’s character set up works with a redemption story like she specifically is way more interesting as she is #she is a discussion of tropes when it comes the ‘female villain’ and u can take issue w the execution but i like the concept a lot #like she is written the way she is for a reason why do u want her to be a different character entirely #like if u want this why not advocate for george making a female character whose story would actually work with the redemption trope instead #of making their writing weaker and less trope busting #ig i just really like with cersei the idea that her being an evil perpetrator doesnt erase her being a victim of misogyny and vice versa #like i like that challenge that she is deserving of sympathy for these things without the need to redeem her or make her ‘likeable’ #patriarchal violence will affect all women #and the story deserves to work just as well with someone u r not supposed to root for #its about the humanization of these people #evil doesnt exist in a vacuum #and it makes perfect sense that these specific systemic conditions create it #and then perpetuate it

[brittie-frog]

Honest opinions on Pyramid Game before I go to sleep:

- Yerim and Eunjeong canon I don't care that we didn't get a kiss or a proper conversation that stare and Eunjeong feeling confident enough to try and put her arm around Yerim confirmed it

- Harin wasn't justified but I understand her psycho reasoning and she was a great villian and Jang Daah did a great job, can't wait to see what she does after

- obviously loved Suji, played by my WJSN bias so there was no way I wasn't but also she's just so fun and definitely is gay for Jaeun my little baby

- yes all the bullies got punishments they deserve but I think that Dayeon (and possibly Seol ha) should have been put in therapy as her punishment after being taken from her dad because i think the reason she was a bully was because she was getting beat and she would fucking hate therapy until months down the line when she realises it helps (and then kiss either Seol ha or Doah)

- if they seriously gave me a 30 second Jang Gyuri double cameo for a full circle thing (I do like those) or sequel bait we're not going to get I'm going to be so sad

#im going to rewatch it so i might edit with more this weekend #i love all the (high school) characters so much #fuck all adults except the lit teacher Jaeuns mum and Sujis dad at the end #yes i support toxic yuri dayeon with anyone but especially doah or seol ha (or better throuple) #if she did go to therapy it would probably stop being toxic #i dont support abusive yuri harin x jaeun because girlie could never redeem herself enough to deserve my baby #i want a season 2 so bad but its a kdrama so never going to happen #where are the fanfics???? #pyramid game #sung suji #myeong jaeun #baek harin #im yerim

[findafight]

Me, lying face down on the carpet: I don't know how many times I have to explain that people love characters like Steve Harrington and Zuko, is that they have done things that are bad. They have said things that are bad. Possibly reprehensible. Possibly violent.

But then. And this is THE fundamental aspect of them that you must understand, they realized they were wrong. They realized that what they did and who they were were not things they were proud of. Were not things they liked doing or wanted to continue doing. Were things that hurt people. They realized that they didn't want to be that person anymore.

And then they changed. They went and tried to apologize to those they wronged. They worked to fix what they had done or helped do. They made strides to be different from what they once were.

Zuko stood up to his father, he apologized to the Gang, admitted to them he and his people were wrong, and taught Aang Fire bending. He changed and he helped and he apologized.

Steve helped clean up graffiti, he went to Jonathan's house to apologize for the terrible things he said and their fight(and got dragged into monster fighting and saved Jonathan and Nancy's lives), he replaced the camera he broke.

They owned up to their mistakes and apologized and did their best to remedy them. The apology and the changed behaviour make these characters likeable. They have flaws that have glared but they have accepted those things, tried to do better than them.

I need you to understand that there are characters out there that do the same things but never apologize. When you question why someone likes character a but not character b, when character a has also done bad things, I need you to think about whether or not that character has apologized and since changed that behaviour and thus been sincere in their apology. That is why. No excuse or justification. Did the character apologize and change? Did the other not? There you go.

Me, sitting up with the imprint of the carpet on my face: Woah haha where'd that come from?

#steve harrington #zuko #atla #stranger things #meta #redemption #finda's rambles #listen im not trying to actually compare them im just saying people always question why the love for them #and its like ?? they changed?? #frustrated when ppl act as though other charscters who also did bad but never changed are more deserving of love because #because canon gives them abuse but it never has them apologize for the abusing they do #like realizing you are perpetuating the cycle of abuse and ending it and trying apologize or mend things is powerful #but do not act like your blorbo did that when they never did. they were abused. that is sad. they did terrible things. that is bad. #they never tried to change away from foing horrible things. that is also bad #just because!! a charscter is abused!! does not mean they are not culpable for their shitty actions!!! #zuko was abused and he did shitty things!! the fact he was abused isnt the reason he was redeemed #he was redeemed because he worked for it. he broke out of the mindset that caused him to be violent and cruel #he apologized directly to those he hurt most directly. and he changed #azula didnt do that!! yes she was abused and deserves compassion but she was also murderous and would have killed her brother! #she had not decided to break the cycle!! #Billy was abused. and then he abused his sister. he was violent. #he would have attacked and potentially killed a thirteen year old black boy for being friends with his sister. #at no point does he realize those actions are unacceptable. at no point does he apologize. at no point does he change #just because he was abused and abandoned does not mean he was not responsible.

[greensaplinggrace]

*fire emoji* about the Darkling owo

okayyyyy!!! the darkling can never be redeemed and he should never be redeemed. not because his actions are irredeemable (because in the end that doesn't really matter), but because to do so would, to me, be a nearly heinous act.

the darkling exists for a reason. he exists because of the persecution and oppression he's faced - and he exists because of the way society deemed him a monster for what he was.

any redemption for his character within the narrative given would be a betrayal of everything he represents. in the same way flint can never take a pardon, I believe the darkling can never be redeemed - because redemption in the world bardugo has written would mean redemption in the eyes of the law, his abusers, and his oppressors - which would mean basically apologizing to them and admitting they were right to do to him and his people what they did. and they very much were not.

perhaps, with a very very good writer and a better original plot, the darkling could be redeemed successfully only to those he's directly harmed - such as alina - but to be quite honest any writer willing to do so would not be one I would trust easily, and unfortunately for us the original content is what it is in regards to loyalist propaganda, so even a good writer couldn't save it.

tl;dr - unpopular opinion: the darkling should not be redeemed

send me a 🔥 for an unpopular opinion (x)

#i understand this is probably unpopular to both pro darkling people and anti darkling people #because i mentioned he cannot be redeemed #and also that he deserves not to be #lol #but 🤷‍♀️ this is what happens when you try to put a revolutionary and an entire persecuted race in your poorly written fantasy ya world #and then make him the villain #i will always be a firm believer that lb should have put her characters and her plot in a different setting #and that she shouldn't have written the darkling the way she did #shadow and bone #sab #grishaverse #aleksander morozova #the darkling #sab meta #myramblings #ask games #asks and answers #heyy! ty for the ask! <3 <3 #anon #sab critical #leigh bardugo critical

[auroralcrow]

Xenoblade cat girls have my heart

#mine #xenoblade chronicles 3 #xenoblade 3 #xenoblade #na’el #Na’el Xenoblade #nael xenoblade #I like the happy cat #she deserved better in the narrative I liked her a lot #future redeemed

[jasontoddssuper]

I wish i could deck the corny ass subsets of She Ra and Toh fans who are so obsessed with the problematic aspects of the shows that they try to turn the positive ones probelmatic too out of,ironically enough,their own bigotry that's objectively just as bad or even worse than that of the writers

#'catra has NO REASON to be way she is adora turned out FINE' 'glimbow was unnecesary!' #'luz being butch is stereotyping!' 'amity didn't deserve to be redeemed just because she was a kid who was abused into bullying!' etc #'not like other girls' ass behavior #she ra #toh #adora #catra #glimmer spop #bow spop #glimbow #seahawk #mermista #seamista #scorpia #scorfuma #lonnie spop #repkyle #luz noceda #amity blight #lumity #willow park #gus porter #hunter noceda-deammone #huntlow #gustholomule #darius deammone #raine whispers #raeda #camila noceda #letters from summer

[my-current-obsession]

Me, delusional, foaming at the mouth:

ISH ROUTE??? POTENTIAL ISH ROUTE? PLEASE?

#even if tempest #otome #just saying his love for norna is kind of what made him turn evil #so anastasia SAVING him and redeeming him through love would be A+++ #and the game even implied it would/should happen! she literally told norna to leave ish to her #and then just... ignored him in purgatory to pursue her own happy ending #so we were ROBBED and deserve a proper route with him (and not just a Q&A session) #if nothing else i hope he's got a big role again because i want to see and hear more of him #tetsuya kakihara did GREAT work with him. i'm most familiar with fran from code realize #but holy shit he popped off in this role. there's just an energy to it - sometimes malevolent sometimes playful #and i just WANT MORE. ideally he gets a route but failing that make him a prominent character regardless #for the record i'm ALWAYS greedy for more love interests in any game #(in this game alone i also desperately want routes for maya and hugo for instance) #but he's one of a small handful who truly seems like he SHOULD have been and just. wasn't. #so until the FD comes out and shatters my dreams i'll hold onto hope

[unfortunatelyevent]

ok fuck everything else, even if the world ends, I wanna watch keyleth of the air ashari fucking destroy liliana temult with rage in her eyes

#I JUST THINK KEYLETH DESERVES A LITTLE MUDER AS A TREAT SHE JUST WATCHED THE LOVE OF HER LIFE DIE FOR THE SECOND TIME???? #I'm seriously so pass the point of redeeming Imogen's mom I hope she dies screaming :) #my measure for characters that deserve redemption are very simple: #you brought the literal horrors on earth killed several people are a war criminal? you're fine #killed one of my favorite characters that I've been unhealthy attached for years? you're fucjin dying :) #cr spoilers #cr3 #cr1 #vaxleth #keyleth of the air ashari #vax'ildan #c3e51 #liliana temult #yes this account support women fighting each other

[hi-there-buddies]

Has anyone made fanart of Chloe Bourgeois as Agent Venom? Because that would go so hard

#it’s what she deserves #marvel knew bullies were redeemable #and she has her VENOM in her actual suit #perfect crossover #just genderbent Spider-Man story basically #mlb #ml #miraculous ladybug #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #mtolbacn #mtlbcn #chloe bourgeois #I need fanart of this

[wildflowercryptid]

i finally played through the galar chapter of the villain arc in pokémas and it was pretty alright, it at least made me feel kinda vindicated about my stance on rose being a redeemable villain. i will say that i think the chapter would've been stronger if (01) bede was present & played a core role in the plot and (02) oleana switched sides to help rose see that he can't save the future if he keeps going down the same path & tries to do it alone.

#honestly i'm kinda surprised that oleana didn't defect from rose's side bc i feel like it was building towards that? #ya know w/ her immediate distrust of giovanni and the expression she makes when leon points out the issues w/ rose's methods #i feel like her leaving his side would've made things more interesting and impactful #like when even your ride or die peaces out on you you know you've fucked up and need to rethink things #i also feel like it'd reinforce the idea that rose also cares for oleana a lil better too #as for bede i just think they deserve some proper closure when it comes to their relationship w/ rose #gotta clarify that just bc i think rose is redeemable doesn't mean i excuse all of his actions #he's definitely someone who uses others to further his goals and ends up hurting a lot of ppl bc of his methods #but i also feel like he does has the capacity to atone for the shitty things he's done and do right by the ppl he's hurt ya know? #okay i really need to go to bed now especially if i wanna get up at 9 #pokemon #pokemas #mj.txt

[astro-b-o-y-d]

I also said it before but I cannot find the post, but there's probably a very specific reason people are quicker to sympathize with Pacifica over Gideon and/or focus more on giving her redemption than him and it starts with an f and ends with a phobia 🫤

#Hayley Speaks #'I just don't like him because of how he treated Mabel' Pacifica also treated Mabel like shit #Just because it wasn't the same kind of terrible doesn't mean it's not terrible #I'm sure people do have legitimate reasons for favoring one over the other #And in all honestly they are both very interesting and flawed characters #But it's like. Hmm. #Why is so much attention given to redeeming Pacifica over Gideon #This is also not a jab at Pacifica herself; she deserves more attention for sure after the narrative didn't do her justice #But you know #We can spread our efforts out methinks #Also at the end of the day Gideon is like nine and does have the potential to change #The hatred for him is. Understandable in places but Odd in others. If that makes sense