#punching Nazis

[antifainternational]

#antifa #punching nazis #sonice the hedgehog #three wishes #@suchnerve

[liskantope]

With regard to the recent testimony of several presidents of major universities about their policies on antisemitic speech, my orbit seems divided into people who are ignoring the story entirely and people who have reacted to it with nothing but outrage and exasperation toward the university presidents. I also find the whole event and situation frustrating and disturbing, but I'm wondering if I'm the only one out there who can't help feeling some significant degree of sympathy with the university presidents and why they might feel like they're in a bind under that type of questioning.

(I haven't gotten my hands on a more comprehensive video that shows the hearing -- the only video I was able to find that looked it might contain this was 5 hours or something -- but this treatment by David Pakman contains about the most footage I've seen. Notice how Pakman, perhaps not deliberately, distorts the sense of the MIT president's meaning in her sentence, "I've heard chants, which can be antisemitic depending on the context, when calling for the elimination of the Jewish people" by seeming to rearrange the quote in his mind so that the phrase "calling for the elimination of the Jewish people" is placed earlier in the sentence implying that calling for the elimination of the Jewish people is only sometimes antisemitic. Which is not at all what she said.)

Here's the thing: accusations of antisemitism and particularly the use of the term "genocide"/"genocidal" in speech content are being thrown around quite loosely nowadays. The way the presidents squirmed around struggling to navigate how to answer the questions was cringeworthy to be sure, and made worse by the fact that they didn't explain what they meant by "become conduct", but it's kind of understandable that they wouldn't want to straight-up say "Yes, we have a no-tolerance policy towards all calls for genocide against Jews" knowing that will immediately be turned onto them the next time a pro-Palestine slogan which someone on the pro-Israel side might interpret as antisemitic is uttered on their campus. For instance, "From the river to the sea!" seems to take on a range of meanings depending on who you ask, from "Get all Jews out of that whole piece of land!" to (according to for example Robert Wright) "Let's have a one-state solution where Palestinians get equal rights throughout that whole piece of land!"; the former can certainly be argued to be genocidal whereas a lot of protesters will probably (perhaps quite sincerely) claim the latter meaning.

(It's like during that whole debate about whether or not it's okay to punch a Nazi: I think a lot more of us may have been comfortable saying that Nazi-punching is generally okay, if it hadn't been for the fact that there was a visibly large overlap between the people advocating Nazi-punching and the types who tended to wield very broad criteria for who qualifies as a Nazi.)

I don't really have the time or energy to try to develop a full-blown stance on where the boundaries of free speech should be on college campuses or anywhere else. My general inclination would be to draw the line at speech that advocates intolerance of groups that include people that would be on the campus. So for instance, speech advocating genocide of Jews as a general group (which would include Jewish students/faculty/staff on campus), let alone speech expressing hatred toward or otherwise harassing/threatening any individuals or subsets of Jewish students/faculty/staff at the university, should not be tolerated under university policy. Speech advocating removing Israeli Jews from the state of Israel (the most extreme interpretation of "From the river to the sea!") is pretty disturbing and frighteningly reminiscent of early Nazi policy, and Jewish students wouldn't be unreasonable to feel deeply offended by it and I don't feel great about allowing it, but I'm not sure if it crosses that line. I don't know. The policy position I'm suggesting could plausibly be what the university presidents were espousing, but it was hard to tell without further clarifications from them, and it may just be wishful thinking on my part.

I do agree with David Pakman and others that, almost certainly, if you replace "antisemitic" with "anti-black" or "anti-Asian" or "misogynistic" (or probably even "anti-Muslim"), those university presidents would have without hesitation sung a very different tune, and that is an issue that needs to be examined and reckoned with. I'm not sure I'd say that it's evidence that Jews are uniquely hated among marginalized groups exactly, but it's a reflection of the fact that this recent general turn of events has kind of broken the guiding lines of certain strains of US progressive ideology.

#current israel-palestine conflict #antisemitism #genocide #david pakman #robert wright #punching nazis #free speech

[soineffablygay]

Was writing something else entirely, accidentally ended up finishing an old Stony one shot. Bon Appetite.

#Steve punches a Homophobe in this one #ao3 #fanfiction #stony #fanfic #stony fanfic #stony fanfiction #stony fic #stevetony #mcu #writing #one shot #Captain America does what he does best #punching Nazis

[evilhorse]

Welcome to Brooklyn.

#captain America #steve rogers #hydra #agents #punch #punch to the face #wham #punching Nazis #gail simone #daniel acuna #marvel comics #comics #2020s comics

[rfscaveart]

#Hellboy #Punching Nazis #Punch a Nazi #Antifa

[riotclitshave]

#Punching nazis #funny memes #meme #memes #funny meme #funny

[irradiate-space]

Hot take: Current discourse around who's justified in attacking whom in the Middle East feels like we're getting another round of the "punching up" and "punch Nazis" discourse. Lots of emotion, very few principles, lots of rules that don't generalize, and basically the only people who come out of it without dirtying themselves are the pacifists.

#hot take #discourse #politicking #punching up #punching nazis #war

[spinelikericekrispy]

#punching nazis #couldnt find the post but i do have a gif downloaded

[orsomethingsys-is-here]

Yeah I could kill myself, but I would rather punch a nazi

#kms joke #punching nazis

[goodguynickachievement]

Illustrated by Steve Purcell

#sam and max #max #sam #steve purcell #punching nazis #remember friends #punching nazis is always cool #comics

[cambriancrew]

While I'm a strong proponent of nonviolent methods in syscourse - we're dealing with people who have trauma, on both sides, and it's kind to be considerate of that - there's a line, in real life. Someone wants you dead, you don't just sit there and let them.

And that's all we Crew will be saying on this topic.

#syscourse #Fascism #Punching nazis

[jamsque]

On Being the Hands you want a Bigot to Catch

I wrote this a few years ago, didn’t publish it, and forgot about it. I rediscovered it recently and decided that actually I quite like it, and that it is relevant to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine as well as the original topic.

I am not particularly fond of the American national pastime of worshipping dead presidents, nor am I a Christian, but I do think Lincoln could turn a hell of a phrase. Last summer I visited Washington DC for the first time and read the words of his second inaugural address, which are carved onto the wall inside his monument, opposite the text of his much more famous Gettysburg Address. One passage in particular caught my eye: “Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said ‘the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.’” A century and a half later, those words still seem very relevant. It feels as though the war Lincoln spoke of is still ongoing. The USA’s stubborn refusal to engage with the concept of reparations or acknowledge that the ‘debt of two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil’ stands unpaid has left the nation locked in conflict, trying instead to repay with the sword every drop of blood drawn with the lash. Every shot fired by an irrationally terrified white police officer at an unarmed person of colour is another salvo in the war that white America refuses to accept is even ongoing. This weekend a terrifying new front in the conflict opened up in Charlottesville. White people, following the example of generations of tradition, emboldened by the divisive rhetoric of a bigoted regime, fought back with murderous violence against the very idea that the USA should be a home for people who don’t look like them. By characterising this conflict as a war I am not seeking (as some have already done) to draw a false equivalence between the two sides, in fact quite the opposite. I think that refusing to recognize the nature of this conflict is what enables the hypocrisy with which so many view it: failing to see any shared context between police shootings, the rise of alt-right discourse, and violent fascist groups, but tutting disapprovingly at the image of young black man punching Richard Spencer in the face. I am a staunch pacifist, and more than a bit of a hippy. I will almost certainly never punch a Nazi in the face, and I am genuinely sad that the idea of changing the world through peace and love has died so thoroughly. I recognize, though, that it died because it failed, and that pacifism is a privilege afforded to those who live in peace. Being a pacifist does not mean telling someone who is being beaten up to stop fighting back, nor does it mean equating the struggle of the oppressed with the violence of their oppressors. As a straight cis white dude, no-one is marching on the streets calling for the extermination of my race. I do not have to worry that any interaction I have with law enforcement, no matter how benign, could well lead to my death. Wherever I go and whatever I do people give me the benefit of the doubt and are willing to trust me implicitly before I even open my mouth. Of course it is easy to be conflict-averse, to be a pacifist, from such a position! I feel no guilt about this but I do not for a moment think that it makes me morally superior to someone who “aggressively, physically refuses [to give] fascists a space to talk.” I’m not upset if I go to a poetry slam and people on stage say that men are awful, I am not angry at a trans person who gets a tattoo that says ‘Die Cis Scum’, and I am not disappointed that someone chose to punch a man for saying that people of colour should be exterminated. I don’t make it my business to tell women how to be feminists, even though I don’t necessarily agree with everything every woman has ever said on the topic of gender, and by that same token I am not interested in lecturing victims of injustice and oppression which I am never likely to experience about how they ought to resist it. The bitter truth of these times is that if you turn the other cheek and lie down before your oppressor they will step on your neck and tell your family that you deserved to die. I am a pacifist: I deplore violence, I think that every casualty on every side of every conflict is a tragedy, but when conflict arises I do not leap to reprimand all involved from the smug safety of the moral high ground. Even if one were to take the ludicrous hypothetical step of ignoring the ideologies at play here, it is completely clear in this instance that one side started this conflict, perpetuates it, shows continuing willingness to escalate it into violence, and denies that there is a conflict at all whenever the other side fights back. The very idea of trying to equate murders motivated by white supremacy with punching an alt-right idealogue in the face is laughable. ““Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.” I hope for the end of this war, as I do for all wars, because as long as it continues there will continue to be casualties on both sides. I do not think it contradictory to hold this position while at the same time firmly believing that one side is just and right.

#Richard Spencer #Charlottesville #George Floyd #Punching Nazis #Abraham Lincoln

[evilhorse]

Captain America was fortunate that the Avengers were there to ease his transition into the modern era.

#captain america #steve rogers #baron zemo #helmut zemo #punching Nazis #flashback #avengers #dan jurgens #marvel comics #comics #2020s comics

[deactivatesamwhich]

Haha HAAA!!! Get wrecked!

#punching nazis #Youtube

[slyandthefamilybook]

since we now know that all those "my blog is safe for Jewish people" posts are bullshit, here are some Jewish organizations you can donate to if you actually want to prove you support Jews. put up or shut up

FIGHTING HUNGER

Masbia - Kosher soup kitchens in New York

MAZON - Practices and promotes a multifaceted approach to hunger relief, recognizing the importance of responding to hungry peoples' immediate need for nutrition and sustenance while also working to advance long-term solutions

Tomchei Shabbos - Provides food and other supplies so that poor Jews can celebrate the Sabbath and the Jewish holidays

FINANCIAL AID

Ahavas Yisrael - Providing aid for low-income Jews in Baltimore

Hebrew Free Loan Society - Provides interest-free loans to low-income Jews in New York and more

GLOBAL AID

American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee - Offers aid to Jewish populations in Central and Eastern Europe as well as in the Middle East through a network of social and community assistance programs. In addition, the JDC contributes millions of dollars in disaster relief and development assistance to non-Jewish communities

American Jewish World Service - Fighting poverty and advancing human rights around the world

Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society - Providing aid to immigrants and refugees around the world

Jewish World Watch - Dedicated to fighting genocides around the world

MEDICAL AID

Sharsheret - Support for cancer patients, especially breast cancer

SOCIAL SERVICES

The Aleph Institute - Provides support and supplies for Jews in prison and their families, and helps Jewish convicts reintegrate into society

Bet Tzedek - Free legal services in LA

Bikur Cholim - Providing support including kosher food for Jews who have been hospitalized in the US, Australia, Canada, Brazil, and Israel

Blue Card Fund - Critical aid for holocaust survivors

Chai Lifeline - An org that's very close to my heart. They help families with members with disabilities in Baltimore

Chana - Support network for Jews in Baltimore facing domestic violence, sexual abuse, and elder abuse

Community Alliance for Jewish-Affiliated Cemetaries - Care of abandoned and at-risk Jewish cemetaries

Crown Heights Central Jewish Community Council - Provides services to community residents including assistance to the elderly, housing, employment and job training, youth services, and a food bank

Hands On Tzedakah - Supports essential safety-net programs addressing hunger, poverty, health care and disaster relief, as well as scholarship support to students in need

Hebrew Free Burial Association

Jewish Board of Family and Children's Services - Programs include early childhood and learning, children and adolescent services, mental health outpatient clinics for teenagers, people living with developmental disabilities, adults living with mental illness, domestic violence and preventive services, housing, Jewish community services, counseling, volunteering, and professional and leadership development

Jewish Caring Network - Providing aid for families facing serious illnesses

Jewish Family Service - Food security, housing stability, mental health counseling, aging care, employment support, refugee resettlement, chaplaincy, and disability services

Jewish Relief Agency - Serving low-income families in Philadelphia

Jewish Social Services Agency - Supporting people’s mental health, helping people with disabilities find meaningful jobs, caring for older adults so they can safely age at home, and offering dignity and comfort to hospice patients

Jewish Women's Foundation Metropolitan Chicago - Aiding Jewish women in Chicago

Metropolitan Council on Jewish Poverty - Crisis intervention and family violence services, housing development funds, food programs, career services, and home services

Misaskim - Jewish death and burial services

Our Place - Mentoring troubled Jewish adolescents and to bring awareness of substance abuse to teens and children

Tiferes Golda - Special education for Jewish girls in Baltimore

Yachad - Support for Jews with disabilities

#atlas entry #please add any more you know of an especially add fundraisers for you or people you know #if there are any fundraisers for synagogues please add those as well #jew #jewish #judaism #jumblr #punch nazis