#no syscourse on my post

[ancient-reverie]

s/o to my fellow systems whose brains are just wild and will see a nice rock and make an alter. like okay brain, that's nice thank you. no idea what started us as a system, but over the years we've had many new people form and the causes are varied. this is not a full list, just a couple of experiences

i want to preface that there is nearly no way to "prove" if these are true reasons or not as is the nature of dissociation. but they FEEL right and it's our brain so we would have some idea. and it Doesn't Really Matter in the end being as what matters is that we Are Here Now.

really we made this as a list so maybe someone who needed to could relate to or laugh at one or more of the things

a lot of feelings about not being able to sing gave us a vocaloid with a broken voice

almost drowning landed us a transmasc siren

started writing a new character and oops hi pretty okay and strong girl

"i need a big brother"

some really bad shit went down in mindspace (this happened often when we were younger) and an alter or two were traumatized so write a note to wait two months and start looking for a new one but still be surprised and confused when the new one comes up anyway

some symptom got too much to handle so now it's this guys turn wait who is this guy

discovered a new song and listened to it on repeat and maladaptive daydreamed someone a new friend or child

bestie said we weren't friends no more so i'm gonna become someone who has never met bestie

We Aren't Talking About The YouTuber That We Watched Too Much Of And Used For Emotional Support Until They Showed Up And We Pulled Off A Perfect [redacted] Accent And Refuse To Speak Of Since (sorry)

uncomfortable moment you will only ever be Confused about despite being able to remember it and what was happening

every alter rotating out during the Suicidal TimesTM until there's no one else who can handle it so yOu MakE ONe and they're actually really happy for a minute and can appear to break the depressive session but very quickly realizes what they're in for and joins the rest of the Sad Club, thanks for the help buddy, sorry and welcome to the club we have weed

Bird Hyperfixation

"i need a new mom"

Vampire hyperfixation

literally just a different version of an existing alter. alternate-timeline 'if this had happened or hadn't happened' or future/older selves

you really liked this character in that show but your brain for some reason won't take the actual character. oh no it has to make its own person that is an exact mirror of that character! but it wont tell you! you have to forget all about that character until 10 years later when the alter realizes it but they're so different now you don't actually know but it probably shaped you in some way

had a slut phase on discord and the fake personality 2 of the alters used online turned into her own person

You haven't met the alter that you know exists because you asked for them to exist at the same time you heard your father cry for the first time at 27 when you all Lost a creature who the whole system considered their daughter.

people just form when the brain decides it's a good idea for us. it's been awhile since we've had a new fully fleshed out alter who has the energy and desire to be out/slots into the main group that takes care of most things. when new ones form these days (like 2.3 every 4 years) it's "quieter" people that pop up, introduce themselves, and then chill in mindspace with the rest and we don't really hear from them much.

Last we counted we have about 50 people (we counted a long time ago i'll be honest), but on a daily basis only about 3-5 people are active and it's not always through the whole day. at least 2-3 are always active. Siruss is the only one who can solo we dunno why.

our usual routine someone will be out and they'll have a co-fronter and or a couple background buddy(ies), and then the co-fronter and background people change after a week to a month, it depends on who it is. sometimes one of the background or co-fronters will swap out and be the main one for however long they can manage (depends on who it is)

but if we're leaving the house and around other people the routine is totally subject to change.

#hell o void #hell o hadal #system shit #plural shit #about #i really need to go to bed and stop using tumblr as a journal #if someone reads this and it enlightens something for them then im glad i could help at least but if you read this at all thank you #plurality #multiple people in one body #also i know you guys have your whole vocabulary for specific things but we didnt have that when growing up so we use whatever words #feel the most appropriate for us and how we feel. we're also mostly around singlets and have to use vocabulary they understand so we keep i #practice of using terms and descriptors that make sense to most people. bc we will tell strangers we're plural if it comes up we dont care #plural #multiple #no syscourse on my post

[moved-to-piersgender]

i hope everyone with acne, eczema, vitiligo, psoriasis, dermatitis, dermatillomania, and skin conditions have a good day today

#See how easy it is to steal positivity posts without bringing syscourse into it like a little pissbaby? #My post now #I have dermatillomania and I hate it 🙃 #Acne #eczema #vitiligo #Psoriasis #Dermatillomania #skin condition

[atypical-irritant]

This just in: "misinformation" isn't just whatever info you don't agree with. Hope this helps.

#syscourse #misinformation #online discourse #debate and discussion #my post

[miroymon]

In my recovery, in my admission for my past faults, I look back on what I have been doing and how I have affected people and I move on. These people don't care if I become a better person, they do not care if I change who I am, They do not care if I am who I am - they just don't like me. I have unfortunately put myself in the public eye for so long that I cant even use my system name because of what past headmates have posted on their accounts. Those names, those usernames, tainted by the internet's allure of discourse and hate and syscourse.

So, please, let me change and let me become a better person. I don't need to be hunted, targeted, and harrassed for stuff that syscourse and my past headmates have created. I am not my predecessors, I am not those people. I am an unfortunate person that ended up in this body. I no longer hold those beliefs, I no longer want people to see me as a horrible person. but I cannot stop people from hunting me down, so I will say this;

If an anti-endo can change who they are, if they can slowly become nicer and understand what endogenic truly means - my literal teenage syscourse rants that stemmed from my own trauma from internalized racism, radical hate for my skin and my plurality - my opinions on things that I didn't need to have, opinions on systemhood that hurt people etc. If they can change, I can at least try. It's the Internet. I just started my life, I have years ahead of me that will outlast this gruge that people have. I know that these are the actions of previous headmates, but I need to admit fault for them... because they're dead. I have buried them in headspace. Literally. This is their vessel, I am in their place, I am to take system responsibility.

And this all started because I said that endogenics don't deserve to be harassed. But I delved into syscourse, I was immature, and I was reckless with discussing the pains of plural POC just like me.

I have hurt people, I get it. But I want to change, and I will change. Syscourse, Discourse, Hate, Anger etc will not stop me from healing in the plural community and it will not stop me from saying that I deserve to change. I need to change, to be safer for people and myself.

The Internet is not the real world, I will not let this carry into my real life. I will change, and whatever path and history I have to carry will burn as I change for the better. If people cannot see that and if they keep dragging me into syscourse, then I won't listen.

I'm a person, we are people. I have never been a nazi, a racist, a sexist, nor have I assaulted anyone. This is an internet gruge over syscourse.

Treat us like we can change.

#syscourse #this will be my only syscourse post #I am a person i can change and i will change so i will not let you drag me back into syscourse #pro endo #negativity #rant

[sysmedsaresexist]

When they ask for your diagnosis papers

#a blank for free use #it's dangerous to go alone #take this #i made this picture specifically for this post #please reblog to support my Skillz and blog #mental health shitpost #now what anon #syscourse

[possessed-pack]

Love to all of the tulpa systems or systems with tulpas regardless of their origin. No matter your system origin, you having a tulpa--even if it's just one or if there's many--does not discredit your system. It does not make you fake. Systems of any origin can have tulpas, systems that are disordered or have DID/OSDD/other dissociative disorders can have tulpas--and it does not make you fake. Your origin shouldn't dictate your validity--if you experience it, it's valid and real.

#tulpa #tulpas #plural #actuallyplural #plural system #plurality #pluralgang #plural community #actually plural #tulpamancy #quoigenic #positivelyplural #endogenic #traumagenic #didosdd #dissociative identity disorder #alterhuman #alterhuman positivity #op #hate ask sent to my inbox sparked a positivity post <3 #why fakeclaim though? you're harming the people you claim to protect (DID systems) #we as a DID system do not support fakeclaiming of ANY kind #not only is it just plainly hateful #but anything you use against nondisordered systems can be applicable to a disordered system. we are not a monolith #we have DID. we have made tulpas. they are separate but they are still a part of our system #claiming DID systems need to fit every little box you arbitrarily make is ableism #leave everyone alone #vince (he/they) #tw: syscourse #tw

[coexistentialism]

Oh my God.

Endogenic systems and pro-endos have not been/are not being "groomed" into this. Omfg. When will you people learn. When will you learn. Queer people are groomers too, right? (This is fucking sarcasm). You people don't understand the definition of grooming and you anti-endos being so hateful and vitriolic makes me fucking sick. Y'all are ableist as fuck. That fuckin' Miku meme saying "endos should check themselves into a mental hospital" the amount of times I'm seeing people say endos are "delusional" Wow! This needs to stop. This needs to stop.

#ActuallyDID #ActuallyOSDD #my posts #DID System #OSDD system #Syscourse

[biioniic-biiohazard]

i love you systems with different or more specific experiences <3 i love you introjects with different/mixed sources dating or being friends <3 i love you undiagnosed systems <3 i love you introjects with multiple sources <3 i love you introjects with creators who are aren't the best people and/or not working on their source anymore <3 i love you factives that are nonhuman in headspace <3 i love you introjects with specific and lesser known sources <3 i love you introjects who look/act nothing like their source <3 i love you systems with detailed headspaces <3 i love you systems with little to no headspace or low detailed/smaller headspaces <3 i love you systems with small amounts of headmates <3 i love you polyfragmented systems <3 i love you frontstuck alters <3 i love you alters who are scared to front <3 i love you systems who switch all the time <3 i love you systems who rarely switch <3 i love you alters who are animals, objects, concepts, and songs <3 i love you brainformed alters without sources <3 i love you systems with complex sexualities and genders and romantic orientations <3 i love you systems with majority one gender or sexuality <3 i love you transgender systems <3 i love you disabled systems <3 i love you autistic systems <3 i love you schizospec systems <3 i love you systems with ocd <3 i love you systems with tic discorders <3 i love you systems YOU ARE ALL VERY COOL AND AWESOME MWAH you're all doing great and i hope every system who reads this has an amazing day and night ^^

#not endos tho. never endos. get exploded or something lol idfk #THIS POST ISN'T FOR ENDOS💥💥💥 DIE #anyways HIIIIIII ACTUAL SYSTEMS #twirling my hair idfk. #genuinely though i had been thinkign about making a silly little post like this #feels like a lot of posts in the system tags are arguing and syscourse n shit.. we need some positivity :) #anyways yes i hope all systems have a great day and have good luck for a million years #mwah luv ya guys/p #system #sysblr #endos dni #lol. get exploded or something like i said #system positivity #honestly thought i could also direct a bit of these to myself lol #i've been needing some positivity myaelf recently so :)))) i think this makes me feel better #loving myaelf and loving others #proxxtalx

[scaryarcade]

anyway, i love being multiple in every sense of the word, i share my mind and body and life with people who are family to me, i love that we all have unique skills and viewpoints. i love our separateness, our individuality, i love talking to other alters, finding out what each of us likes and dislikes, sharing jokes, interactions that just wouldn't be the same if we were all the same person, if we couldn't perceive the boundaries between us as people. if i was just a little more spiritually inclined i would wholeheartedly subscribe to the idea that we have multiple souls. in an alternate life where we didn't need to develop multiplicity to survive, i think we would have turned out multiple anyway; even if it wasn't intrinsic to us from the beginning i think we would have chosen it. i love our teamwork and our adaptability. i love being my OWN PERSON and i love our alters who are their OWN PEOPLE.

what i hate about being multiple is knowing the vast majority of people, even other trauma survivors, would prefer if we stopped loving that about ourselves because it would make us more palatable to them 🖕

#syscourse #pluralgang #abyssposting #see thefunny thing about this post is . its about our system as a whole #but written collectively by my subsystem. and we DO see ourselves as parts of one person (who is an alter within the larger system) #crazy.......almost like these viewpoints arent mutually exclusive

[cosmossystem]

I had a longer post written out, but I think this is more succinct:

Pro-choice bodily autonomy extends to the idea of created systems. And that includes the "negative" parts too, like intentional dissociation.

I believe in doing whatever you want to your own brain and body. So I'd be a hypocrite to tell you that you can't meditate or dissociate or astral-project or create a headmate, if you so choose. Just make sure you're well-informed and understand the risks. That's all.

#💙 cass #🧤 crush #INB4: yes i have a cdd. no i don't care what you do with your brain. cowabunga. #pro endo #endo safe #pluralgang #tw syscourse #<- i guess #i know next to nothing about created systems so this is me going 'who cares? do what you want' #and i swear to god if the rqs try to claim this post........... #i may just lose my last marbles

[system-of-a-feather]

Ignoring the discourse, I just wanted to ramble on parts language and our feelings to it as someone who mainly uses it - but honestly "parts" is our preferred term by a long way save for alter when we are talking about things in a more clinical sense.

Personally for us, headmate, sysmate, and similar "roommate" kind of terms actually feel diminishing to the dynamic we have with one another. Headmate and similar terms draw parallels to roommates housemates, aka someone you share a space with - and I totally understand the draw to those terms for those that like to emphasize the individuality of the parts, but personally to call our relationship to one another something similar to people who just share a body / brain / mind / system etc really feels a bit... downplaying the importance we have to one another and the unique dynamic that comes from being parts of a whole.

XIV, Ray, Lucille, Aderis, all the parts in our system feel far more intimate, personal, and tighter bonds than anything like a housemate or a roommate or "someone I am sharing X with" could possibly reach. By nature we all compliment each other and were literally created to support, bolster, accentuate, and cover for one another.

/Separate people in different bodies are not so genuinely and thoroughly made to exist in synergy with one another the same way alters and parts are. Separate people in different bodies, no matter how close and how far back they go, are never going to be as deeply tied with one another the same way parts are / can be - and if they DO - 9/10 times it is likely super codependent and unhealthy where as with alters that tends to be an ideal.

Of course this depends on how you define "separate people" and all so its not a "well I am RIGHT" cause its how we perceive things and the main point in our perception is that to draw parallels to existences of two 'separate people' sharing a space together honestly just... extremely downplays how intrinsically made for one another we are. My relationship with my parts goes deeper than any two people who share a space could ever go because we were literally MADE for one another. It's impossible to compliment me and support me more than the parts in my system because they ARE LITERALLY my other halves.

So headmate and sysmate just.... always feel really downplaying to what we are.

Alters we are okay and chill with, but it honestly feels both sensationalized and very.... artificial for a lack of better words. Using the word "alter" tends to draw my mind to the more fictional media depictions OR solely to minimizing parts to the clinical expression to which it feels a bit dehumanizing - so unless its for convenient shared language or for clinical / just factual references - we tend to prefer parts.

Parts on the other hand really acknowledges just how intrinsically connected and made for one another we are. We really don't think it diminishes our individuality at all (though that might just be because we are decently far in our healing journey that we can simultaneously hold the idea of 'we are parts of a whole' and 'we are valid as individuals with our experiences and can exist and acknowledge ourselves and one another like individuals' very easily together at the same time) or imply anything about us being broken or shattered or anything.

If anything, parts language reminds me that there IS others out there that are there to fill in the gaps in life that I can't do. It reminds me that I am not in this alone and that I'm not SUPPOSED to be in this alone. I am a whole person, but I am not the whole picture and I don't have to try to be the whole picture because one puzzle piece while beautiful on its own - often works many times better when connected with the others.

I dunno, parts language is just a really really positive and healing thing for us. We love it and while we understand it not being for everyone, it means A LOT to us and really nothing negative.

My parts are made FOR me just as I am made FOR my parts. We are literally MADE for one another because we are PARTS of a whole that are MEANT to work with one another and I think that is really beautiful honestly.

#alter: riku #syscourse #syscourse tw #<- even though I dont mean this to be syscourse #I hesitated on posting it cause I dont wanna add more to the discourse cause its dumb shit #but I think it is better to put my thoughts out on it than ya know #not #anyways #parts language #actuallydid #dissociative identity disorder

[transillusionisms]

bro how you gonna be "endo neutral". either you believe people know what's going on in their head better than you, some random stranger on the internet, or you're a fakeclaimer

#pine speaks #''we're pro endo but don't involve us in syscourse'' THAT makes sense #ugh or like when people will be like ''no syscourse please ^^'' when you ask them if they support endo systems. bitch that isn't syscourse #that's me trying to figure out if you're Safe To Follow as an endo system or if you're ableist #to be clear: this is not a syscourse post. this is a ''me yelling“ post. please do not debate my own validity on my post you Will Be blocked

[deandraxon]

I’m not going to entertain people who think that a trauma based mental disorder can exist without some sort of trauma. It is not my job to educate you. I don’t have time or patience for this bullshit.

I don’t know why y’all so desperately want to claim systemhood without the disorders that cause it to begin with.

I don’t care that it makes you feel better about refusing to unpack your trauma.

I don’t care if you’re just calling yourself “endogenic” because you “don’t want to define yourself by your trauma”.

I don’t even care if you’re just roleplaying because you think having your favorite characters living in your head would be fun.

You’re all insufferable, and there’s a reason systems can’t fucking stand y’all. You bitch and moan about how we’re “so negative” about y’all and completely disregard the fact that you’re muddying the waters and making it harder for people to tell if they’re actually systems or just have an overactive imagination.

Y’all are the reason therapists give systems such a hard time and try to convince us that we’re not actually systems. Because people claim they’re systems but then insist that they don’t meet the criteria for it.

The human brain is crazy and complicated, but it doesn’t just up and decide not to form into a whole person for no reason. And I’m sick of y’all pretending it does so that you can invade our spaces. Fuck you.

#fuck outta here #draxon’s farm #endos dni #actually plural #did system #i am so tired #pdid system #truamagenic system #osdd system #not endo safe #endos fuck off #anti endo #i fucking mean it #pro endos dni #you fuckers stay away from my post #i use the tags because I’m nice and want you to be able to avoid me #if you go out of your way to find my post and interact then you’re in the wrong and can go fuck yourself #system discourse #syscourse

[nexus-nebulae]

one big reason why I absolutely hate the "traumagenics only!!!!!" discourse is. why the actual fuck do you, a complete fucking stranger, think i would feel comfortable telling you whether or not i was assaulted as a child. Or whether the people I loved tricked me and betrayed me and hurt me. Or whether I'm in constant pain or not. Why the actual fuck do you think i would ever be comfortable telling a complete stranger "I'M AN EASY FUCKING TARGET!!!"

#same reason why you don't ever mention your age if you're a minor #this is all PUBLIC and ANYONE could fucking look at that and decide to do ANYTHING #i post abt my trauma and the chance of someone filling my inbox with triggering bullshit skyrockets #LET ME KEEP MY PRIVATE LIFE FUCKING PRIVATE YOU CREEPS #syscourse

[sysmedsaresexist]

u dont gotta publish this if u dont want but ur latest post n overall journey has rlly resonated w us we* just w ayes to let u know we* r a pro endo who actually unblocked u when we* saw ur response to antimisinfo bc u said i realized the way u handled conflicts earlier in ur syscourse discussions rlly alienated u form the ppl u were now wanting contact w n thought that was v fucking insightful n mature of u (in way u just dont see on tumblr at all let alone syscourse hahaha) anyways we* will try our* best to spread the word that ur now leaning pro endo n get u unblocked n in contact w the community (not that we* have a lot of sway or anything like that hahaha we* just feel for u having a space u connected w felt safe w etc turn on u n abandon u it always sux when u realize smth meant more to u then it does to them) anyways hope r ok n doing well

@blue-bubonic I want to publish this.

It was one of the first anons to come through after I made my post, and I had just checked my activity after trying to calm down. It sent me into actual tears because of the kindness, but.

But.

Wait until you read this, my friend.

Seeing you-- specifically you yourselves-- in my inbox was such a surprise. I don't think you know the role you had in what happened.

I had actually just seen a post of yours for the first time in what felt like forever, asterisks all over all willy nilly, and I thought, I bet that fucking asshat cringe blog is going to screenshot it.

And then I stopped, and I was like.

I was that asshat.

And I'm clearly not anymore?

I'm not going to lie, it's possible you're on my blog.

And if I did that, I am so sorry. I hope and pray that I didn't. I don't want to be that person. I don't think I ever wanted to be that person, but I was.

You are a HUGE part of the reason that I made my post.

And to see you, first in line to welcome me into your community...

Bruh

Bruh*

It broke me down, not going to lie.

And then the support just started flowing in, like an actual wave that bowled me over.

I think Circ is going to make a post soon that's going to tie into this really nicely. Keep an eye out for it, maybe? It's really nice.

All that said, thank you. It was more than I deserved.

#i asked my mods what you're most well known for #and one piped up #didn't they post the medical penis in syscourse and tell antis to suck it? #please tell me that's true #where the hell was i #please tell me that you HAVEN'T grown up because that's amazing

[atypical-irritant]

With the amount of ideals anti and pro endos have in common, you'd think people could perhaps put their differences aside in a effort to achieve a better future. Don't you all see you want the same things? System acceptance, better supports, social awareness. The hills you all indent to die on are meager dirt piles compared to the struggles we all face.

When we no longer are fighting just to exist, perhaps then the semantics can be debated. Because I promise you, those who deny plurality as a possibility don't care if you call yourself endogenic or traumagenic. Those who think we're all dangerous or fakers don't bother to differentiate us. And whatever you see in an endogenic system that supposedly discredits you or gives systems a bad name, there is a traumagenic system out they're who shares that same trait.

The bullshit fights you all get into mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Choose your battles wisely and aim for those who refuse us all. Otherwise how will we ever get anywhere?

#syscourse #did/osdd #plural community #my post