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interstellarsystem · 3 months
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Experiences With Being Out as a System
So, our parents know we're a system. It's all good, they understand that when we suddenly speak like someone from London that it's just another guy taking the body for a spin real quick and that they don't need to question it too much.
The thing is... They don't know our names, or anything about us as individuals. We don't have enough open communication with them to actually discuss the inner-workings of the hundreds of little guys in our brain and who they are or what they like, but even if we did, it's not actually important to them. It almost seems like it's swept under the rug.
Our mother said that she doesn't get why she should have to know anyone else when we're all "us". We're all just a collective to her still, a bunch of bits that make up her child, even though she knows we're separate. Her child, the original, isn't here anymore. But the thing is.. some of us want to get to know her and the family individually. Even beyond just being seen as who we actually are, we want to be a part of it aside from being treated as someone who is gone. But it's not a thing they understand despite our explanations of what it means to us, even despite the fact they know the original is dormant and has been for years.
The most anyone in our family knows about us is our mother, and she only knows anyone with a voice similar to Sark as "the american one". She doesn't know that there's even multiple who sound similar to him.
Technically, we're out as a system. Effectively, though... We're still closeted. Though not really because we're staying in it, moreso that we left but it follows us around like a shield within our own household, but it's not shielding us. It's shielding them from us.
Our experience with talking to medical professionals has been hard because of this--sharing bits about ourselves has been scary. It's scarier to show them pictures of our nonhuman headmates and say "that one is me", but it's never actually been bad when we've mustered up the strength to do it. One of them looked at Mal and saw his horns and said he looks like a faun from Greek mythology. Even though he's not, a positive response like that was empowering. That same one said Filigree's hair was cool. Little acknowledgements about who you are when you've tried to be seen before is great.
With our IRL friends, we expected the situation to be similar to our parents. Swept under the rug like a taboo and given weird, uncomfortable looks when spoken about. But it's been completely different.
We get asked who is fronting, we get acknowledged as separate people, hell, we even felt comfortable telling them about our actual fictive identities and letting the ones who wanted to follow this blog (hey guys if you're reading this <3) get access to it. They acknowledge our nonhumanity and nonhuman parts, share things about our sources with us because it reminded them of us, etc. Sometimes, now, because we've been open about it, we get people actually ask "is x fronting" and we say yes and they say "I knew it".
That specific feeling of being recognised even when your outward appearance doesn't change is absolutely amazing. Little manerisms, little ways our voice sounds even when masking accents out in public, even the words we choose to use are tells toward who is actually controlling the body and they pick up on it--even things we might not recognise we even do. Sure, there's hundreds of people in here and people won't know every single one off by heart, but the ones who are out here often are being recognised and that, to me, is amazing and validating to all of us.
I guess the point here is me sharing our experiences, but also.... You will be able to find people who see you for you. You as a system, you as a nonhuman, you as a disabled person, you as a queer person--you'll be able to find your people. And you know, I hope you do soon--because the feeling of being known is great.
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equinoxiansystem · 1 year
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i just think it's really wild that people act like plural systems and DID don't exist at all when i saw it with my own two eyes growing up. my mom had it, i remember watching her switch and seeing a literal toddler talk out of an adult's mouth. it's just really weird that people act like it's this new internet phenomenon when it's really not, and if you know what to look for, you'd realize there are actually tons of systems all around you in every day life, not just on the internet.
a lot more people are systems than even realize it, too. my mom never knew formally about DID or plurality but i can 100% tell you with confidence i watched her become completely different people, with completely different voices, handwriting styles, body language and age ranges many, many times over the years, and not on purpose. i could tell my mom wasn't doing this on purpose. not always, but we are often times this way because our parents or guardians were.
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plural-affirmations · 4 months
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Here's to questioning systems!
Whether you've been wondering about your plurality for a few hours or decades, you're a valid part of the plural community! Today's for you!
Shoutout to:
People who aren't sure if they're plural or not
Systems who know they're plural, but don't know anything else
Those figuring out whether they're traumagenic, endogenic, mixed origins, or something else entirely
Quoi/crypto/congenic individuals, or those with similar labels
People who aren't sure if they "count" as plural, such as someone with psychosis or imagimates
Those who are plural, but find themselves doubting their system often
And anyone else I missed
It's perfectly normal to not be 100% sure about things! I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually, but, even if you don't, you're still incredibly valid, and we support you! You deserve to take some time for yourself and think about things, but please don't feel rushed to find a label!
We wish you the best of luck on your self discovery journey!
🖤💜💙💚💛
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quincy-clover · 2 months
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[ID: Ten pixel ampersands of various flags in order being TraumaEndo and DID by monstersandco, OSDDID, Adaptive, Quoigenic, Spontaneous, Willogenic, OSDD, UDD, and inclusive plural. End ID]
All created by our spouse& @monstersandco via the same app we use. We will still add these to the rentry under spouse& made pixels :) They are willing to make people's personal system flags (possibly simplified depending on complexity) with this shape!
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alethonym · 9 months
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its okay to be confused by your own masking.
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phoenixf0x · 2 years
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I'm plural because when I was a kid, adults told me to make friends and my brain took that literally
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tucuteboything · 1 year
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anyways :)
all systems/plurals/collectives are valid and that includes ones with origins you don't like :)
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annoying-xthing · 3 months
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I swear there are no pro-endo accounts that coin/name terms or make user boxes for systems. Like they all say "making a place where you can have terms/boxes away from pro-endos :)" THERE ARE NO PRO-ENDO ACCOUNTS??? It's so fucking annoying. I just want to have some user boxes and use terms that describe me and my system. But no, everyone fucking hates us.
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cavityinmybrain · 4 months
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i find it very strange how many times i have been followed by actively anti-endo accounts on here. despite the fact that i am not hiding that im an endo supporter at all.
i have even brought it up to some accounts to let them know that they were breaking their own dni by interacting with me and one replied: “im fine interacting with traumagenic pro-endos but not endogenic systems” like that just makes me feel so mfin ICKY dude.
at this point i dont want to call myself traumagenic to keep this specific subsect of people away. whats the one thats like “you dont get to know”-genic? im that one now fuck you.
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interstellarsystem · 13 days
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Little Plural Things
Systems can present in a lot of different ways. Sometimes, being a system can be loud and obvious if you're naturally more overt and/or out about yourselves as plural. Sometimes, it can be quiet and barely noticeable, but still there--just harder to see. Our system is fairly obvious if we're unmasked, but there are still things that escape even our own knowledge when we're masking as hard as we can. Little things that to us, remind us that our system is undeniably real. This is a post about those experiences we've had with barely-noticeable signs of a system.
Not every system will relate to these experiences, some might feel similarly about a few points, some may have others of their own entirely, some might not know or not have anything like the experiences we mention, and that's all part of being plural. No two systems are mirror images of each other. This is a post about our experiences.
1. Handwriting
Recently, we've had it brought to our attention that we have different handwriting. We don't write with a pen/pencil often, but we were asked to fill out a worksheet for our psychologist recently. She told us that whoever in our system wants to contribute to it can, and suggested that we signify who wrote what in some way--to which we chose different pencil colours for different headmates. We took the worksheet home and put things on it depending on who was in the front and if they wanted to.
It turned out, that some of our writing widely differs from each other. Out of the 6 people who wrote on the sheet, most of them were wildly different. Rift and Martin wrote the most tidily, with Rift's writing looking more "proper" and "adult". I (Vince) apparently am not the best at neat writing but I managed to be better than what our "normal" writing is like from what we remember. Merlin wrote messily like he was writing very fast. Mystery wrote with very large letters with sharp angles that overall made it look like it was written by a child new to writing. Which makes absolute sense. It's not a child, but its hands in-headspace are bigger than ours and that was the actual first time it had written anything on paper since it got here.
Somehow, it took until our psychologist pointed it out for us to notice how different it was.
2. Vocabulary Choices
Something we are able to notice sometimes is how our vocabulary and sometimes sentence structure changes based on who is speaking. Some obvious examples are our British headmates substituting "bloody" for other words as an exclamation and the difference between what some of our headmates would call a "chip" or a "fry".
Other times though, it's more subtle. Sometimes there's certain phrases that will just have a word or two swapped out and it does tend to point toward who is fronting even if people do use multiple of these. Some examples are:
"I suppose" vs "I think" vs "I believe"
"Kinda" vs "Kind of" vs "Sort of" vs "Sorta"
"Recently" vs "A bit ago"
"Sleepy" vs "Tired"
"Lol" vs "Haha" vs "Lmao" vs a keysmash (Even though these are text-based they are quite telling.)
"Quite" vs "Very" (Speaking of the above.)
Getting more subtle with them, some other examples are:
"You know" vs "Y'know"
"Uh" vs "Um"
"Uh-Huh" vs "Mhm"
Sometimes typing is influenced too. The amount of em-dahses within the text, the consistency of proper punctuation, how mechanical the text feels, how many run-on sentences there are and even how much tends to be written in one message/post can all point toward different people being in control.
3. Accidental Accents and Inflections
While accents are usually very obvious, we're generally good at masking them. Generally.
Due to us living in Australia, our headmates with accents straight from London don't stick out too bad when they're struggling to mask, but they are still noticeable to those around us who know we're plural. Passerby on the street or people who don't see us often don't think much of it, but certain people we are close to know that a few people in our system find it harder to mask and can tell when they're fronting very easily because of it.
Even if we are masking our accents properly, some parts of the way we speak still come out. Some of us end sentences on a higher-pitch more often due to what our accent generally has us do and some end more on lower-pitch notes when speaking. Some of us put emphasis on certain syllables differently. There's lots of little things that go into language that make it hard to completely mask.
4. Food Choices
More of a noticeable one, but something we tend to brush off as "just a bad batch" when it happens. Some of us like and dislike different foods and drinks, some of us to an extreme degree.
Mystery hates the brand of juice we normally buy and thought that it might've just been past expiry (it was not) or just a bad batch of the juice, but they're consistently the only one who doesn't like it.
Rave likes spicy food much more than the rest of us because they have a harder time tasting it. I on the other hand can't handle spicy food at all and am worse with it than the others in my system.
Some of us favour different brands of food and some of us might like/dislike textures of food differently too.
5. Default Facial Expressions
Different resting facial expressions are something we hardly notice because we don't look in a mirror often due to dysphoria. What we do know though, is that some of us just rest our faces differently.
I look more stern and tired than others. I have a bit of an angrier resting expression.
Martin looks a little bit more anxious due to being an anxiety-holder, but he also looks softer and kinder.
Crowley also looks tired but has less of a stern look and more of an almost blank one.
6. Body Language
This is one we don't know too much about because we can only get knowledge on this from other people, but most of our headmates have a different "vibe" by the way they carry themselves.
I end up seeming to-the-point and business-like.
Martin reads as being very anxious even if he's not always.
Crowley reads as smug.
Mal reads as if he's planning something mischevious and silly.
We've been told that Filigree just reads as "gay".
We're not sure what actions make us seem this way, but some of us can be clocked by others around us as fronting without even talking first. I don't know how people do it, but it's something in our body language.
7. Clothing Choices
A few of us have different clothing choices--Crowley still wears sunglasses everywhere due to light sensitivity and wears dark colours, I prefer to wear button-up shirts as opposed to more casual things, Martin prefers hoodies that are lighter in colour and Merlin prefers to dress in pink and black and more fluffy textures.
We don't have too many clothes overall so to others it does just look like we're cycling through our wardrobe, and sometimes we are, but there's certain styles some of us tend to lean toward more than others.
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Some of these might seem quite noticeable, and maybe they are if you know we're a system, but people change a lot so once again some of this is much more subtle than it sounds. People who don't know that you're a system hardly ever notice, and if they do they put it to "having an off day" and leave it at that.
We wanted to take some time to appreciate those little things we find it hard to notice, though. And maybe it'll end up helping some other system realise how unique they are as individuals and help fight off the imposter syndrome like these realisations did for us.
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the-hadal-zone-sys · 2 months
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I never got the question of "would you describe yourselves as separate people or parts of a whole person?"
To be honest, we've always seen ourselves as both.
We're all our own people, but we're also all parts of a bigger whole.
You couldn't separate us from each other, but you also couldn't make us the same.
I don't know how to describe it... Does anyone else feel this way?
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redacted-coiner · 5 days
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Can you do the endo and traumaendo flags in the circles?
NOTE: I am mearly doing this as a request. This does not say my personal view on this type of discourse. I personally don’t care about discourse when it comes to this so do not bring this up to me.
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Endogenic, Traumaendo, Traumagenic
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Spirigenic, Xenogenic, Willogenic
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Quoigenic, Neurogenic, Othergenic
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DNI is listed within my pinned post. Please go read it before interacting with any part of my content. Ask to tag!
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endo4endo · 2 months
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hai guys im back after 2 yrs :33 anyways fellow endogenics pls interact!!!! i need moots and friends pspsps
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ijustwannamakeemojis · 4 months
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[ID: Eight pixel hearts of various system origin flags by grey dawn in order being Endogenic, Quoigenic, Traumagenic, Neurogenic, Protogenic, Parogenic, Spirigenic, and Multigenic. End ID]
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nestedlibrary · 7 months
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it’s weird being a wolfblood (therian, i just like the word better) with someone co-con because I got shifty and decided to start memorizing my new woods and Ivan just slid up to co-con and said to me: “you… are wolf..” FUNNIEST THREE WORDS IVE HEARD IN MY LIFE-
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