#mcu fandom keep hating on sambucky

[ineffable-snowman]

Fic Tag Game

Thanks for the tag @dark--whisperings!

How many works do you have on ao3?

fifteen

2. What's your Ao3 word count?

400,883 (holy shit)

3. What fandoms do you write for?

right now switching between Star Wars and Good Omens

4. What are your top five fics by kudos?

Maybe Someday - 841 kudos, most of them thanks to @plumbum-art's wonderful comic Date Night, which "resurrected" this little fic of mine.

and then my four MCU (sambucky) fics:

Trouble Man - 841 kudos, too!

Pet Psychopath - 712 kudos

Partners, Accidentally - 561 kudos

Co-Workers with Benefits - 509 kudos

5. Do you respond to comments?

Yes. Because if I write a comment, I like to hear from the author. It doesn't have to be much but it just makes me happy to hear that my comment made the author happy. And I think interaction is important to keep a fandom "alive" (even if often I don't know what to say but I try).

6. What's the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

I don't write angsty endings. But I'm a little worried that people won't agree with me that Match Made on Earth has a happy ending.

7. What's the fic your write with the happiest ending?

As I said, they all have happy endings, but the ending of Four Chord Songs and Sentimental Lyrics is particularly sappy. I was wondering if that love song in the last chapter was *too much*, but then I thought: nope, it's Anakin, *too much* is his personality trait.

8. Do you get hate on fics?

This year I got two very rude anon comments on one of my Obikin fics accusing me of horrible things. The accusations felt pretty generic and did not fit to that particular story at all, but they still left me a little shaken. Fortunately, the people in the Obikin discord were really kind about it and helped to cheer me up.

Back on FFNET I received the occasional "ew, they're not gay, why would you write that?" Also there were some people who were angry at the way I wrote Obi-Wan, saying things like "how can you say he's your favourite character and then characterise him as weak/flawed/incompetent... and make so many bad things happen to him?"

BUT, all in all, fandom has been a positive experience and the many good interactions far outweigh the odd rude comment.

9. Do you write smut? What kind?

Does one awkward sex scene per multi chapter fic count? (No.)

10. Do you write cross-overs?

No.

11. Have you ever had a fic stolen?

I don't think so, not that I know of.

12. Have you ever had a fic translated?

Yes, a long time ago on FFNET when I still wrote Harry Potter fic.

13. Have you ever cowritten a fic before?

Yes.

14. What's your all time favourite ship?

I feel like Obikin is the "correct" answer because I always come back to them.

15. What's your WIP you like to finish, but doubt you ever will?

Step into Christmas with me. So far, I've managed to add two chapters every season. If I continue at that pace, I might finish it in two more years...

16. What are your writing strength?

Beginnings and endings.

17. What are your writing weaknesses?

The long middle parts that always become too long and repetitive.

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?

Okay, I have Opinions on this!

I don't like it and don't see the merits of it. It often just feels like the author wants to show off their language skills. But as a reader it takes me out of a story. I don't want to check footnotes or use google translate in the middle of reading.

19. First fandom you wrote for?

Just for myself: Harry Potter. Posting online: Star Wars.

20. Favourite fic you've ever written?

Servants of the Force is definitely not my best writing but it's still my favourite fic anyway because I've never put so much effort into a fic before and I'm proud that I finished it.

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I'm not sure who has already done it. tagging (no pressure!): @underacalicosky, @demonghost, @somethingsteff, @ineffableobikin, @fulcrum843, @howlbrooklyn, @kingdomvel

#fic tag game #my writing #obikin #ineffable husbands #sambucky

[jake-and-amy-are-married]

For the choose violence ask game: 1, 7, 14, 23 :)

OMG - thank you so much for indulging me haha pretty long answers below, be warned -

🔥 choose violence ask game 🔥 1. The character everyone gets wrong:

Uuuurgh this is tough!

I think as far as andor goes, everyone is a bit too harsh on Vel? I think she did the best she could in the circumstances she was put into - especially for the Aldani mission - she seems younger than a lot of her team, but she managed to keep them afloat pretty well, and she was a solid leader - the mission was a success after all.

I think as far as the MCU goes.... I have an entire desseration written about tony stark lol - like seriously SO MANY PEOPLE get him wrong! They either write him too arrogant or too lovey dovey - but forget the angst?? I'm not talking about the smaller bits of angst - I think it would be utterly scary and worrisome and MISERABLE and sad to live in his head.

Where is the angst?! Where are the daddy issues? Where is the "I was better than my dad since I was 4 so he HATED me and would have maybe even killed me so I latched onto to the other father figure, turns out he also didn't really like me that much, he was an enabler looking for a meal ticket?" where is the UTTER existentialism?! Where is the Cassandra levels of depressed screaming at the tower, chained, DOOMED to know the future but never to be believed?!

7. What character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how the fandom acts about them? I don't know if HATE is the right word, but there are way too many dean stans in the supernatural fandom lol - the whole point is that they are all fucking fucked up beyond repair - Dean IS an asshole, and selfish a lot (in my opinion) - and he expected way too much of Sam, and Cas, and he was kind of an asshole sometimes - not to say that he didn't also suffer but yk - just opinions. 14. that one thing you see in fics all the time

3 letters - OOC.

23. ship you've unwillingly come around to

I would have to say I'm a bit boring when it comes to ships lol - I tend to ship the ships that are a little bit more obvious? and easy? like most of my ships have been pretty popular ones, I'm not sure if there's an answer here - I used to never really read destiel until Nov 5th, but I got it? Sambucky seems to be the closest, but even then I get it? most of my shipping opinions are pretty basic I think lol.

#andor #MCU #marvel cinematic universe #tony stark #vel sartha #ask #tumblr ask game

[pbpsbff]

20 Questions (for fanfic writers)

got tagged by @fieldsofview :)) (and probably someone else. i have a draft of this from november. oops.)

1. how many works do you have on ao3? 47 as of yesterday:)

2. what's your total ao3 word count? 190,927

3. what fandoms do you write for? i've bounced around a lot of fandoms since i was like, 10, but since august 2022 i've been strictly writing for mcu spider-man (technically more leaning toward irondad, but. u know). with this in mind however, i have a couple 9-1-1 wips and am about one bad day away from writing big time rush fanfiction

4. top five fics by kudos: Peter Parker's Guide to: Texting, Twitter, and Tony Stark (2,110 kudos)

Everything's Coming Up Potatoes (439 kudos)

Is That a Potato in Your Pants, or Are You Just Happy to See Me? (422 kudos)

If You Give a Guy a Potato, He's Going to Ask You on a Date (401 kudos)

be mean to me (if you need to be mean) (331 kudos)

5. do you respond to comments?

...

i try my best. i genuinely have no idea how it's gotten this bad (if i ignore your comment please don't take it personally—i forgor)

6. what is your fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? oh god i don't have anything w/ a sad ending posted LOL i'm too much of a sucker for a happy ending. (i do have mcd in my drafts tho!!!)

maybe 15. There It Is Again, That Funny Feeling? It's more of a hopeful ending, but considering the context of the story entirely, it's pretty sad.

7. what's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? every single fic in the series All's Fair in Love and Potatoes. this series is my happy place amongst all the death and despair on my account

8. do you get hate on fics? besides the hate i receive from sapoteylx? no

9. do you write smut i do! it'll never see the light of day but i do!

10. craziest crossover: i hate crossovers sorry guys. on my old ao3 tho i wrote a heathers au hamilton fic and that's probably the closest i'll ever get to one (unless we're counting r&r? since it's technically twd universe?) also this one time (i was 11. keep this in mind) i read a fic that was tagged jacob sartorius/bob duncan and i think about it daily

11. have you ever had a fic stolen? i hope not???

12. have you ever had a fic translated? NO but that would be so cool. i have some regular commenters that tend to comment in spanish and i'm always wondering if it would be easier for them if i had it translated but i only speak engish. idk fic translators are gods gift to writers i fear

13. have you ever co-written a fic before? i cowrote a hamilton chatfic in 2018. next question

14. all time favorite ship? every peter parker ship ever (excluding all the minor/adult ones). big sambucky and pepperony fan too tho

15. what's a wip you want to finish but doubt you ever will? i have this wip that's like, peter agrees to go undercover for a mission because they need info from some big bad guy and peter is obviously the least recognizable of the bunch, but he gets kidnapped and all that good stuff. idk if i'll ever get around to finish it, because it's like 9 planned chapters and that is SO ambitious for me.

also my cellist!peter au? i've been trying to write it but the words haven't come to me idk

16. what are your writing strengths? ooooo i think i'm good at realistic dialogue and character dynamics—i have spent hours of my life on fandomwiki looking at different character's quotes and watching videos of their interaction with other characters because that's something so important to me.

i think i'm good at balancing angst and humor too?? idk the walking dead really shaped my writing style because u can have a silly scene and then 2 seconds later someone is dead on the floor. hope to carry that vibe through everything i do.

17. what are your writing weaknesses? i am so bad at describing settings and character actions. i can always see the scene in my mind but on paper it turns into they are at a house. peter sits down in the chair, and is sad. and it gets to a point where i just give up on trying to fix it

18. thoughts on dialogue in another language? ough if i ever write dialogue in another language i'll be consulting someone who speaks said language (which is what i actually have done!!!! i have a fic coming out soon w a spanish title and i asked aster-argent for help:)). or doing the thing people do where they just put the text in italics and write ," he said in spanish or some shit.

idk for the most part i stay away from it (ignoring the throwaway, casada harley joke i make in my parkner series) because at the end of the day i am a white girl who learned how to count to 10 in spanish because of dora and took 3 years of german.

19. first fandom you wrote in? ok so. i was 11 and on quotev, writing a chatfic about the bands twenty one pilots, panic at the disco, my chemical romance, and fall out boy. the fic is still up and it makes me nauseous to think about

i think technically i had an ldshadowlady fic out on wattpad before that but it was a blatant ripoff of another fic so. i don't count it

20. favorite fic you've written? i think this answer changes every day, and will change when i get my next group of fics out, but as of right now—

i'll put down my roots when i'm dead i'm just so proud of it idk. first time i've ever really met a deadline and probably the most passionate i'd been about getting a fic out since r&r began? i just love the whole thing.

Is Close the Closest Star? this one is definitely a tie with the several other angst oneshots i put out around the same time, but idk something about this fic is so special to me. it's like 6 months old and i know my writing's improved since then, but i'll always go back and reread

okok last one sorry ur making me pick my favorite child. Unrotting Your Insides, Unrooting Your Limbs i am such a sucker for recovery fics sorry. i've written several fics about bulimia but this is my fav because it's just. so soft.

tags

oh god i don't have enough writer friends uhhh @norahdevore. if u have not done this already. i am holding a gun to your head and making you do this (and anyone else reading this. please guys)

#ask game #fic writer ask #shoutout to the person who tagged me lke 6 months ago (pres???) #my bad #im a different person now and that old draft haunts me

[wenellyb]

i wasn't really in the mcu fandom before tfatws and wow. coming across bucky stans has been like getting slapped with a live fish even tho i should have seen it coming. i hope bucky's characterization keeps going in ways that piss off his ridiculous racist stans. funnily enough, i felt the show finally made him an interesting character.

Hi Anon!!!

Let me tell you Anon! Bucky up, because I couldn’t agree with you more. Yes to everything you wrote. Especially about pissing off the stans.

I'm not saying this lightly, but they are the worst. The worst.

I've rarely seen this level of disconnection to reality in a fandom (expect maybe the Reylos) and I still love Bucky's character but sometimes I see some posts and I want to ... break things. They manage to make EVERYTHING about Bucky. For them, anyone around Bucky is bad and Bucky has never done anything wrong a day in his  life.

I was just surprised because I had never experienced this before, because when the Sambucky ship was smaller, the nonsense was coming from outside the fandom...But now we’re seeing it from Sambucky shippers as well, like what???

Here's a non exhaustive list of stuff Bucky stans have said, there’s so much more:

- I’ll start with the wildest post I’ve ever seen from a stan:

Screenshot from  @mshunnybunch

- Whenever there’s an accomplishement for Anthony or Sam/ they manage to make it about Bucky and ask why didn’t Bucky or Seb get it too?? They did it when it was announced that Sam Wilson was getting the shield, thy did it when it was announced that Anthony had been signed for a Cap 4 movie, 

Screenshot from @stacee-not-jaxx

- They did it when Anthony was nominated to the HCA Awards for his Captain America role and not Sebastian:

Because no...the nomination couldn’t possibly be because of his talent, right?

- They never congragulate Sam or Anthony, or any costars their only reaction is: What about Bucky, why weren't there any announcement for him too? And when you tell them that this moment should be about Sam/Anthony, they invent the most insane lies like " Sebastian was promised a Solo movie, we have been waiting for 10 years.”

- They treat Sam as the bad guy but never acknowledge when Bucky f*cks up, or when he’s rude."Sam is so awful to Bucky, he treats Bucky like he was responsible for his acts as the Winter Soldier" When did Sam ever do that btw?, “Sam was awful for saying “cyborg brain”

- If you ask them why they always imagine Sam taking care of Bucky and never they other way around, they snap.

- And when you point out that in a healthy relationship one partner shouldn’t be the other’s therapist, they can be a confident but not a therapist, and that Bucky should see an actual therapist... they snap.

- They don’t respect tagging

- The racist posts that were flooding about Ayo, but never mention how Bucky betrayed Ayo’s trust.

-They imagined their own version of MCU Bucky and do not care that it doesn’t match what we have seen on screen.

.- “Uwu why is everyone calling out Bucky’s behavior in the police scene`?”..But then they don’t even think about how Sam must have felt and how the scene was about Sam, not Bucky.

- Comparing Bucky's experience to Isaiah's... Yikes

- Called Sam “petulant and childish” for asking Bucky why he cared so much about the shield since it had nothing to do with him.

- Let’s not even talk about how a lot of them talk about Steve.

- Whenever they make a racist post, instead of listening and ameninding it, they get defensive, start saying things that are actually worst than the original post.

And when they are being called out  on all of this their response is: uwu why does everyone hate Bucky??`? newsflash, it's not Bucky we hate, it's his stans.

I'm a Sambucky shipper but when I see a f*cked up Sambucky post I either call it out or block the OP, but Bucky stans don't do that, they just rally and write rants about how “not all Bucky stans are like that”, and that we shouldn't be generalizing. And I know that because my asks are always open. Here are the asks I get whenever I mention the problem with Bucky stans, these were sent a couple of months ago bty, just using them as an example:

So apparently calling out sh*tty/racist behavior is policing now... So this is basically how the Bucky fandom is, and the so-called “normal” fans remain silent which leads me to wonder where they stand.

And to be clear, I received these asks when I made a post about how I don’t like it when the fandom focuses on Bucky and sidelines Sam. I wasn’t even hating on Bucky or anything so...

This is why I cannot deal with Bucky stans. They live in an alternate reality where a different TV show was airing, and where emitting even the slightest criticism towards their character or their fandom is “hate”... Bucky is always the victim not matter what happens and so are they.

And then there are the  And the “regular fans”, the unproblematic ones, instead of calling out the problematic Bucky stans, come in my asks to complain about how my posts are “anti-Bucky”. Spoiler alert: They’re not.

In the end the people calling out f*cked up posts become the bad guys because they are " generalizing", but they never challenge or call out the problematic blogs directly. So excuse me to "generalize", but if a problematic or racist post in you fandom doesn't bother you, I'm going to assume that you lowkey agree with it. If you don’t have a problem with the toxic stans but you have a problem with people calling out the toxic stans, then I have bad news for you.

If the toxic stans really were a small portion of the fandom, then the problematic posts would be challenged a little more.

I love Sam Wilson as a character but, believe me, I have always been a pro Bucky Barnes blog back in 2016/2017, I was sharing petitions for a Winter Soldier solo movie, but the Bucky stans sometimes make me want to stay away from the character because they are just unsufferable.

The only stans who come even close to the level of toxicity of Bucky stans are Tony and Kylo Ren stans, but at least Kylo and Tony are awful characters on their own...but Bucky stans manage to make a great character with a lot of potential like Bucky despicable.

TL:DR: I love Bucky & hate the stans.

End of rant.

#Bucky Barnes #Anti Bucky stans #pro Bucky Barnes #tfatws #sebastian stan #anon asks #I had a lot to say apparently #I'm also bringing the receipts this time and I have more screenshots where these came from

[dynamicduoofstackie]

Trying to make it racist to ship to stucky so that sambucky will become more popular isn’t going to work. People connect with characters and ships through fanfiction and art not through other fans moralizing them. In fact that can have the exact opposite effect. There are a lot of people shipping sambucky. Focus on spreading fanfiction and art about them and watch more people fall for the pairing. Both ships make sense in canon so let people who ship stucky ship them. There is room for both.

I never said if you ship Stucky you are racist. Or if you shipped anything but SamBucky you are racist. I don't expect everyone to love an appreciate Sam Wilson like I do. People like what they like and I am not going to force them to like my ship because then they won't have the same appreciation. So you need to climb off your soap box and chill.

I swear, ya'll act like Marvel Cinematic Universe diversity was A1. It was not in the beginning. Ya'll remember the first Avengers movie, back when the only diversity was the cg green guy and a white woman? Even Avengers 2 was the same cast of white heroes. Lol, it took me until Infinity Wars to realize that every major white hero happened to have a token black sidekick/friend. Like Tony had Rhodey, who was in Avengers but didn't contribute to the final boss battle. Like Steve who had Sam, who does think for himself, but was there to help him hide, find Bucky, and didn't even get let in on Steve's man to live most his life with Peggy. Or like Thor who I learned Heimdall of all people was his best friend, but paid him no never mind while he was out having fun with his white friends.

In Doctor Strange they gave the role of the Ancient One who was supposed to be played by an Asian, to a white woman, which basically white-washed the role and cause an uproar in the Asian community. You had Simu Liu defending his solo Asian movie Shang-Chi and the Ten Rings to the Disney CEO who called his movie an 'interesting experiment'. Let's not forget the fans being all pissy about having Netflix's Luke Cage and Black Panther featuring a predominately black cast when there was tons of predominately white marvel/mcu tv/movies before and after that.

I mean the fact the fact that Joe Kirby and Stan Lee created the first black superhero that didn't have 'Black' in front of their name, with Sam Wilson, should be applauded. But too blatantly ignore that there is still racism in MCU movies, TV shows and in the Fandom itself is dumb. Marvel has gotten. A lot better at diversifying and they are more than likely going to get better with time. Especially if they diversify their directors, producers, and writers.

If you love stucky. Ship your ship. I honestly don't care. As long as you respect my ship. I will respect yours. My original post was asking why people didn't recognize sambucky more because of how beneficial their relationship was and how Steve x Peggy is now canon. If you check my comments section, many have also pointed to race. So I am not the only one.

Too make a long story short, I'm not just throwing race cards down just because. Marvel's MCU took a while before they diversified and gave solo hero movies to not just minorities but women. I'm not accusing anyone who doesn't ship my ship as being racist or hating on sam wilson. But I have noticed how people tend to use sam wilson as a fill in for Steve rogers when their ship tanks in fanfics. Or use him as a prop in fanfics to antagonize Bucky or being the token black friend whose only job it is to help his white friends find love or work through mental issues. He is not a love guru, bully or free therapist. Sam Wilson deserves love too.

Ship want you want, but put some respect on Sam Wilson's name. Don't shut up and dribble me Anonymous. Ya'll keep coming to my blog, like I ain't state my personal love for all things Stackie and SamBucky and showed my willingness to fight for my ship. If you don't like what I'm shipping then get the fuck off my blog.

#sam wilson #bucky barnes #these anonymous people got me tripping #so triggered #i will fight for my shil #racism is in the mcu #racism is in the mcu fandom #I'm not throwing race cards just because #what we not going to do is hate on my boys #i love stackie #i love winterfalcon #i love sambucky #ship what you want #ship your ship #i ship obsessively #put some respect on sam wilson's name

[honestlyfrance]

FRANCE’S MASTERLIST

[ tumblr tags #france: works etc | AO3 | Wattpad ]

→ A compilation of all of my fics. Why do I keep updating and changing you ask? I don’t know too :’) I needed to do something

→  ( 💻 = social media fic ) ( 🔪 = horror / thrill ) ( ✨ = fan fave )

→  FRANCE’S SAMBUCKY BINGO 2020 x

→ FRANCE’S KISSES BINGO 2020 x

DEATH TO THE ENDING

[ PATREON | sambucky ]

Retiring to a nice home somewhere in a disclosed location in the woods, Sam and Bucky have finally found a place to heal and call their own, only for it to be disrupted when the real world has come and called for them.  

INDEFINITE COLLECTION

[ tumblr masterlist / graphic | non-ship |  🔪 / ✨ ]

Indefinite is a daily horror/thriller drabble collection that goes on indefinitely written for the MCU fandom.

CEASE INTIMACY

[ tumblr masterlist | sambucky | 💻 / ✨ ]

It wasn’t unrequited, it was mutual — mutual disagreement. Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes were friends, and that’s the end of the sentence, so is that why — is that why they hate this affection, hate this sentiment? You love him, but why is it him. Sam keeps forgetting his jacket at Bucky’s dorm, he’s too forgetful and messy! Bucky stays awake until the early dawn and doesn’t shave, he’s too last-minute and lazy! Why did it have to be him? How should I hide this?

ROMCOMS FOR YOU

[ tumblr masterlist | sambucky |  💻 / ✨ ]

After publicly leaking a very not-at-all platonic memory that happened five years ago on his friendship anniversary, Bucky Barnes finds himself convincing Sam Wilson, yes that same friend he was talking about, that they should pick up where they left off but Sam wants other things, and he may or may not be taking it all as a joke. In the end, they started courting each other to see where it can go, as Bucky puts it eloquently, but he hopes this all turns out well despite being oceans away from each other.

GOODBYES AT HOTEL DOORS

[ tumblr tag / AO3 | sambucky ]

When Sam Wilson finds him, it’s almost like looking into a painting. Only observing, unable to touch, just watching a masterpiece move and tell a story on its own. And what a story it was.

OR

Sam Wilson finds Bucky Barnes at the most unexpected of places, and he doesn’t plan on losing him this time.

WE’LL MAKE THE SKY KIND FOR US

[ AO3 | tumblr post | sambucky ]

The sky wouldn’t have wanted this, for you to drown in its atmosphere, to choke yourself in its beauty, to suffer in its embrace, to kill yourself in the serenity dressed with ocean foam clouds and golden brush strokes. The sky wouldn’t have wanted you to die in its love, in its hatred, and in its praises. Yet, here you are: stripped to the barest armor, gliding miserably through the debris, your heart heavy and your honor echoing. Come here. Let me save you, your bones say, but you’re reckless, Aren’t you? You always were.

CARPE NOCTEM 

[ AO3 | tumblr post | samsteve ]

bucky introduces sam and steve to each other. bad mistake now that they’ll be too drunk to remember how they met.

LOVE SWEETER THAN CANDIES, CAVITIES TO THE HEART

[ AO3 | graphic | sambucky | ✨ ]

Sam needs to admit to himself that he does love Bucky and his cliches and sweetness. He does. He always did.

OFFERING LOVE UNTIL IT HURT

[ tumblr post | sambucky ]

Sam Wilson’s timer was so close to zero. So close, but, he doesn’t really believe in them. Not the concept of soulmates, no — he’s just lost his faith in his.

TO CEASE INTIMACY

[ AO3 | tumblr post / graphic | sambucky |  ✨ ]

“Oh, Jesus Christ, Buck!” Sam spoke, his heart full of happiness it’s just shaking right out of him. “You really can’t have danger out of your hair. Keep your eyes on the road. You’ll have all the time in the world soon—”

“—to see the stars in your eyes, I hope so.” Bucky cheekily chimed in, quickly turning back towards the road, and soon he heard Sam’s charming laugh.

OR

Bucky Barnes, a lover of the stars, begins to risk it all when Sam Wilson, a lover in his writing, had publicly posted about his reluctant crush. Never wanting anything so badly in his life, Bucky took the leap of asking Sam out despite not being sure if this crush was even him, which ensues into a fumbling mess of date ideas that were settled by a walk by the river and blunt confessions professed under the sunset.

CAN’T SLEEP TOO?

[ tumblr post | sambucky | 💻 ]

Bucky can’t sleep and Sam was just across the hallway and a text away.

TO THE ENDS OF HOTEL ROOMS

[ tumblr post / AO3 | sambucky | ✨ ]

Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes embark on a journey of healing, safety, secret moments, and falling in love.

→ The Catch [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→ Train Car [ tumblr | buckynat ]

→ Nighttime: When Strays Come Alive [ tumblr | bucky + alpine ]

→  like children, we'll smile with stars in our eyes [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→  Partners [ tumblr | sambucky | ✨ ]

→  steve rogers never knew [ tumblr | samsteve ]

→  it’s almost too easy [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→  it crept like daybreak [ tumblr | stony ]

→  their hands intertwined [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→  memories, steve rogers thinks [ tumblr | samsteve ]

→ falling in love against gravity [ tumblr / AO3 | sambucky | kiss fill #3 | ✨ ]

→  how strange... [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→  have a breath... [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→  basorexia [ tumblr / AO3 | sambucky | kiss fill #4 ]

→  oranges in october [ tumblr / AO3 | sambucky | kiss fill #5 |  ✨ ]

→ to hold dear [ tumblr / AO3 | sambucky | kiss fill #6 |  ✨ ]

→ Aleatory [ tumblr / AO3 | sambucky ]

→ aranyhíd [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→ jiāoqiǎnyánshēn // 交浅言深 [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→ ya’aburnee - يقبرني [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→ start-struck lovers [ tumblr | sambucky ]

→ As Soon As You’re Done [ sambucky ]

→ Dance To the Rhythm of Our Love, Sweetheart [ sambucky ]

→ We’ll do it. We’ll fall in love. [ sambucky ]

→ The Very Thought of Love [ sambucky ]

→ Warmth [ sambucky ]

→ Our Atoms Buzz together and I think that’s Beautiful [ sambucky ]

→ Maybe I do [ sambucky ]

→ Universe [ sambucky ]

→ Fight and Rest [ sambucky ]

→ Hers [ buckynat ]

→ Chase The Wedding [ sambucky ]

→ Change How Romances Go [ buckynat ]

→ To Soar Like Icarus [ sambucky ]

→ Was It Always This Warm? (sequel to Warmth) [ sambucky ]

→ Forbidden [ buckynat ]

→ Lazy Mornings [ sambucky ]

→ Dearest, Sam [ sambucky ]

→ Have you seen it? [ sambucky ]

→ Love in six poems, six confessions, six years, six forevers [ sambucky ]

→ Just Come Back With It (Thank You) [ sambucky ]

→ Chess [ sambucky ]

→ Black Dove [ sambucky ]

→ Dorks and Idiots in Love [ sambucky ]

→ Art [ samsteve ]

→ Dream A Little Dream Of Us [ sambucky ]

→ wip snippet: HWE [ sambucky | ✨ ]

→ “Hey. Hey, you. Lovely. Gorgeous. Angel.” [ sambucky | ✨ ]

→ Plead [ sambucky ]

→ Celestial [ sambucky ]

→ lazy day for tony and rhodey [ ironhusbands ]

→ hallway [ sambucky | ✨ ]

→ how are you sam wilson [ sam ]

→ love a poem [ sambucky ]

→ Myth [ sambucky ] 

→ poetic service [ sambucky ]

→ dont’t blink [ sambucky | ✨ ]

→ meticulous [ sambucky ]

→ he’s in love [ sambucky | ✨ ] 

→ first love [ sambucky | ✨ ]

→ suburbia [ sambucky | ✨ ]

#sambucky #samsteve #buckynat #sam wilson #bucky barnes #steve rogers #natasha romanoff #winterfalcon #france: works #france: masterlist #last updated: sept 20 2022

[irhinoceri]

I enjoy checking out creator and actor interviews a lot and I listened to that Variety podcast interview with Sebastian Stan (then one that the Sambucky quote is taken from) and it reminded me, to a certain extent, of how fans just really need to chill out about expecting actors to validate their headcanons.

Sebastian gave what is pretty much the most generous and encouraging answer he could to the question of whether Sambucky is a romantic relationship, and the podcast host still followed up with “okay but tell me if he’s bisexual or not.” Granted, Marc Malkin of Variety is an entertainment journalist rather than a fan, but after Sebastian answered his question about Sambucky he pressed further, saying that all the fans really want is a direct confirmation that Bucky is bisexual. And Sebastian’s response to that was another more rambling thing that basically still amounted to “what do you want from me I’m just the actor.”

And really, I’ve seen this before and people always complain about actors being coy or queer-baiting when they say that you the audience can feel free to interpret their work however you want... but really, sometimes you just have to take them at their word that they are not the ones who decide every canonical facet of their character. At the end of the day this is just a person with a job he likes that he wants to keep and he’s not the person who gets to make that decision, so even if he looked directly into the camera and said “Bucky is bisexual and has fucked so many dudes” it wouldn’t mean anything. He’s just an actor who reads the scripts (when he’s lucky) and gets to put some kind of spin on the character with his performance, but like this dude didn’t even know what was happening in Endgame until he watched it in the theater like the rest of us.

Anyway just thinking about that because I notice all these posts about either respecting celebrities’ personal lives or not putting them on a pedestal and I want to extend that energy into people having some kind of realistic understanding of how much control an actor has over the character. Some actors probably get to exert more influence than others, especially if they’re one of those big names that gets producer credits on their films, but despite how popular Sebastian is within MCU fandom, I think it’s pretty clear that he doesn’t hold the keys to the Marvel kingdom so hounding him for a direct canon confirmation like that is just... weird. Frankly it reminds me of hounding any employee about things outside their direct control. Love them or hate them, Marvel and the MCU is run by a corporation and all the creatives—the writers, directors, the actors, the set designers, etc.—are hired to carry out a vision set by the studio.

And with that said... I feel like this stuff is so often less about “needing representation” versus people just wanting their particular ship or headcanon validated by the actor. And it’s fun, to be sure, when someone involved in the production appreciates fan involvement by sharing a meme or fanwork and indicating that they approve... but Sebastian already does that anyway. He shares tweets and other fanmade stuff on his Instagram, and is patient with fans at conventions who line up to ask him if he felt betrayed by Steve at the end of Endgame, etc. etc.

So idk. What’s the point of this ramble? It’s fine to enjoy the stuff actors share during press tours, but when they’ve made it pretty clear what the extent of their answer to any given question is going to be, just drop it and move on. Not everything has to be treated like a congressional hearing.

#mcu #mcu cast #sebastian stan #variety #marc malkin

[barneswilsonrogers]

What I love the most about Samsteve is that Sam is Steve’s equal and vice versa. With Stucky and Sambucky, there’s a little imbalance in power dynamic and overall characterization. But Sam and Steve just fits together. Their chemistry is so strong! There’s an instant bond, a shared life experience! 

It really saddens me whenever people underestimated Sam’s role in Steve’s life, just as much as I hate it when they underestimated Sam’s role in Bucky’s life.  Of course there’s a connection that comes with knowing each other for decades. But who’s to say Sam cannot read Steve as well as Bucky, maybe even better? And who’s to say Sam doesn’t know what Bucky needs, better than Steve can? 

The way people REFUSED to see Sam as more than sidekick/bestie for both Steve (especially Steve, because there’s even less samsteve fics than sambucky) and Bucky is so, so frustrating. I once read a Steve centric fanfic where Steve said ‘he’s not my new best friend’ to Bucky in front of Sam and the writer didn’t give a chance to Sam to address his feelings. It hurts so much.

Sam is kind, but he’s not afraid to call you on your bullshit. Sam is strong, but he’s a big softie. He’s confident and smart, but knows his limit, therefor he doesn’t have an ego in him, unlike Steve who sometimes lets his ego get the best of him. He’s also incredibly skillful, which makes me cringe if writers write about his insecurities as if he’s a low class soldier among other Avengers. Is it really that hard to believe that Sam is a lot more than you’re see in him? why? cause he’s black and doesn’t have the super serum?? fuck you.

I just want to end this little rant by saying thank you for everyone who is keeping Samsteve fandom alive. I don’t care if there aren’t so many of us, at least we’re happy in our little bubble. If nobody gonna fight for Sam Wilson to the death, we will.

Anyway, Samsteve > literally any other ship in the MCU and that’s a FACT.

#samsteve #mine #im sorry im just so pissed #excuse the bad grammar

[elwenyere]

Elwen’s MTH Auctions

Hello Sambucky and Stony fam! I am offering two auctions for Marvel Trumps Hate: a 5k-15k fic and an alpha/beta/cheer read.

MTH is an annual event where you can bid on fan creations and services, and all the money raised goes to non-profit organizations vetted by the event organizers. Bidding will begin on Sunday the 17th, and in the meantime you can check out the auction listings on the MTH website to see what’s on offer.

If you bid on my fic, you will have a chance to design your own prompt or to adapt one from the ideas and inspirations list below. I love writing shipping fics with lots of yearning; team-as-family fics with plenty of banter; or both in the same fic! I have a special soft spot for hurt/comfort, and I am a sucker for a good trope-with-a-twist. I also welcome podbids if you’d like to pool resources with a group of fandom pals. You can check out that auction here! 

If you bid on my reading services, I can offer a menu of different reader options, including brainstorming and rubber-ducking; research help for historical AUs; spelling-and-grammar checks; feedback on narrative issues like continuity, characterization, and dialogue; and, of course, happy-screaming in the comments. I am also happy *not* to provide any type of feedback that you would prefer not to receive (for example, if you just want a cheer reader and not an alpha or beta, I will happy-scream extra loudly). You can check out that auction here!

And if you’d like to get more information on the kind of writing I do, you can keep reading below the cut for a non-exclusive list of prompt ideas that I’d be happy to write/adapt and for links to some of my previous fics!

Ideas and Inspiration List

The Avengers’ group chats get subpoenaed

Nurse Bucky and Reckless Firefighter Sam

North and South (Gaskell), but make it Stony

Follow-up chapters/sequel to my Sam/Bucky Edge of Tomorrow AU

Stony Two Weeks’ Notice AU

Stunt Actor Bucky and Intimacy Coordinator Sam

Post-CACW mission-goes-wrong fic

Cap Quartet 2.0 content (with Sam, Bucky, Joaquín, and Yelena - along with cameos from other new MCU characters)

Multiverse fic where the Avengers (new and/or old) are getting pulled into eddies/whirlpools in the stream of time, creating time loops, jumps, and reverses

Your favorite, much-wished-for fic!

A Selection of My Fics

Sam/Bucky

“Call Me By Your (Pet) Name” - 5 times Sam and Bucky used pet names as a joke + 1 time they used them in earnest

“Longing” - When Sam gets caught in a memory machine, Bucky goes in after him.

“With Shadows as with Solid Things“ - Sam and Bucky find each other in the Soul World, and it's impossibly dull - until it's not.

“Smize Like You Mean It” - The team watches America's Next Top Model, and it's better mission prep than you might expect.

Steve/Tony

“On One Condition“ - When someone calls in a hit on billionaire Tony Stark, Steve Rogers is assigned to protect him.

“Three Little Words” - In the branching timeline, Thor has to restart Tony's heart, and Steve hears that Bucky is alive. Some things go differently, and some things stay the same. For starters, Steve and Tony are still terrible at saying those three little words.

“Running Through My Head“ - It’s a College AU! This time featuring mutual pining, Terrible-Ex Tiberius Stone, and something called “Human Flippy Cup.

“A Very Small Grease Fire (and Other Human Disasters)" - Avengers Tower Thanksgiving ficlet with Hurt!Steve, idiots in love, and team as family

#sambucky #winterfalcon #stony #stevetony #mth #marvel trumps hate #stony fanction #sambucky fanfiction #my fics #and my reading of your fics! #very excited for this!

[mcufandomhatespeopleofcolor]

shipping just white people together is a problem, and i want to be better about it, but on the marvel D+ shows, the only non-white-on-white couple seemed to be sambucky and mackie not approving kinda kill it for me. can you suggest more varied ships? do people ship wanda and monica? maybe i have poor imagination. is anyone writing mobius/renslayer stuff? those are the only ones that come to mind

I'm not sure why but these aren't working for me. I'll reblog them just in case they don't work for you either. but basically please don't believe the propaganda about Mackie not supporting sambucky. its not true he was framed.

also I LOVE RAVONNA(renslayer)/MOBIUS also I ship darcy/monica (I don't really ship wanda with anyone but the trashbin lol) and if you're into polyam darcy/jimmy/monica. Also I ship sarahbucky!

I also lowkey ship sam/bucky/sharon (lowkey because she's the powerbroker now).

so like there's plenty of interracial ships you know? I haven't checked ao3 for these ships yet but I know that there's a big push for sarahbucky to become canon so maybe start there? but I'm thinking of maybe doing an event on this blog to boost more interracial shipping and fanworks for characters of color in general. so keep a look out for that!

mod laina

#sambucky #ravonna renslayer #darcy/monica #judge renslayer #monica rambeau #sambuckysharon #darcy x jimmy x monica #polyam shipping #interracial ships

[margarethx]

the only thing im getting from all of this is a reminder of how much i hate when fans or interviewers ask actors about fandom stuff. for the love of god just leave fandom alone in the shadows where it belongs. especially shipping. actors shouldnt have to be interacting with any of this cringey shit for their own protection and for the protection of the fandom.

This stupid fandom is really making me defend actors and celebrities, huh? But okay, here we go ;-;

You're mostly right. I really agree that the actors should be left alone and not asked about majority of this stuff, because it's literally not their job to care about it. They are paid for acting in the movies and later for promoting them in the media. I pretty sure that nowhere in their contract was there anything about keeping up with shipping culture, being nice to the Twitter crowd, or fullfilling the wishes of the fandom by confirming their headcanons.

Not to mention that fandom is a complicated landscape (well... a minefield) and it's very easy to make some group of people angry if you don't say the right thing. Because it's very obvious than no matter what kind of answer Anthony would have given it would infuriate someone. If he said "Sambucky is canon" he would make the homophobes angry along with the entire crowd of people who prefer to ship Bucky with... ekhm... other character and are very vocal about it. If he said that he likes the idea, but it's not a canon relationship, people would go back to that idiotic "Sambucky is just queerbaiting!" discussion AGAIN and fandom would be angry over that.

There's no winning here. He was set up to say something controversial. Of course he could have been more vague about it or choose different words, but let's be real... There are thousands of people who watch his every move and wait for him to trip, so they have something to hate him for even more. And part of the reason why I cannot stand by the group who criticizes him right now is that majority of the fans who were the most angry about it sound like they would've acted exactly the same regardless of his answer.

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And just to clarify... I don't think fandom stuff is inherently cringey or bad, and that it should be hidden in the shadows from everyone else. There are some harmless parts of fandoms that could be brought up in front of the actors. (And it's not that hard to decide what is or isn't appropriate.) It's not like we should be ashamed of liking characters or fictional ships... it's fun. But like I said before: these people are not paid to deal with that. And they are not familiar with every drama and frustrated subcommunity that exists in the fandom, because why the hell would they be?

So bringing it up in the interviews seems rather unprofessional. Interviewers should just ask actors like Anthony about the production process, their own interpretations of their roles, their upcoming projects that are not in the MCU, or I don't know... what other comic book stories they would want to adapt if they could. Plus maybe some more serious questions that are relevant to Sam Wilson's story.

Asking actors about fandom and especially shipping is like giving them a set of buttons and saying "you have to press one of these... every single one causes an explosion that will hurt you and make a lot of people hate you... choose wisely <3".

#sam wilson #bucky barnes #sambucky #anthony mackie #margareth x asks #tfatws

[raendown]

I return from the dead with a fic that isn't even for the Naruto fandom and I don't really have an explanation for myself.

Pairing: SamBucky Word count: 2317 Fandom: MCU Summary: Visiting Steve was always strange now that the guy was old and retired. Still, of all the things Sam expected out of today, witnessing a prime example of gay panic from the co-worker that's been mysteriously avoiding him was not one of them.

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Honestly, the fact that Steve's house smelled like prunes was probably one of the funniest things that Sam had ever heard in his life. More than anything he would have loved to go back in time, to the days of reading about glorified heroes in history textbooks, and tell his fifteen year old self that Captain America, Steve Rogers, retired in a house that smelled like prunes. God, his best friend just had to throw himself in to being old the way he threw himself in to everything else.

"Is there a special reason for you visiting?" Steve's voice was more tremulous these days, less steady but no less warm. Just hearing him again after the shameful amount of weeks it had been since his last visit made Sam grin.

"Nah, just thought I'd pop in and see if you'd expired yet. Your birthday's coming up. Gonna be, what, three hundred? A thousand?"

Steve narrowed his eyes but there was fondness in them so it wasn't very scary even if he could probably still tackle Sam across the room if he wanted to. At this point it would hurt him too but he could do it. "You, young man, are-"

He looked chagrined at himself when Sam cut him off with a laugh.

"You shitting me? Did you really just call me young man? See if I ever let you live that down."

His friend grumbled but accepted the teasing as his due. That was just what he got for going back in time and doubling down on being so much older than his own best friends.

Since it had indeed been a little too long after they last saw each other there was quite a bit of catching up for them to do. Over cool glasses of sweet tea and a plate of cookies the two of them spent a pleasant couple of hours shooting the shit until Sam could almost forget the years that stretched between them now. It was jarring, sometimes, looking away from those clear blue eyes to realize all over again just how many wrinkles they were set in. Sometimes he hated it. Other times he could only smile to know that at least one of their ragtag bunch had found the peace they were looking for.

Eventually all that sweet tea went right to his bladder and Sam excused himself to use the bathroom. When he returned he took in the sight of his friend all snug under one of the blankets his late wife had knit and sighed, feeling maudlin suddenly for no good reason.

"I should probably get out of your hair," he said. "Let you get in your afternoon nap or whatever. No, stay there man, I'll clean up." His smile was easy as he snagged the dishes from their grazing and hauled it all over to the kitchen.

"You sure?" Steve's voice floated after him. "Nothing else you want to get off your chest?"

"Huh?"

Sam frowned at the cups he'd just placed in the sink, running back through his mind. They'd talked about pretty much everything he could think of.

"You didn't mention Buck once, you know. I thought the two of you were friends now."

"Ah. Yeah. So did I." The corners of his mouth twisted with a little bitterness, a little confusion. After everything they'd been through and the number of times Bucky had accepted his invitations down to Delacroix he'd thought they were well past the point of calling themselves friends. Maybe he himself felt something a little more than that but he knew better than to push.

That was probably why Bucky's sudden radio silence hurt so much though.

"Trouble in paradise?" Steve called from the other room and Sam snorted.

“Shit, I don’t know. One minute we’re fine and the next he just up and disappears on me again. I may or may not have checked a bunch of obituaries for your name just in case because I have no idea what I might have done to piss him off.” Sam pursed his lips. He’s already gone over all this with Sarah a half dozen times and in all the recounts he’d done of their last couple missions he still couldn’t find any particularly bad moment between him and his best friend. Unfortunately the sweet tea he was glaring at didn’t have any answers either so he snatched the pitcher up and moved to put it in the fridge.

“Have you tried, oh I don’t know, asking him what’s wrong?”

“You think I didn’t try that?”

Steve’s hum drifted down the hallway with a distinct note of sass. “Neither one of you is very famous for your communication.”

“Excuse you, I was a counselor. A certified veteran’s counselor. Communicating with people was literally my job until your overly buff ass came running around all ‘on your left’ and ‘everyone I know is trying to kill me’.” Sam huffed as he snapped the fridge closed. “I damn well tried to talk to him but he’s not answering my texts or my calls. Short of breaking in to his apartment I don’t really know what else you want me to do.”

Without any other excuses to keep him in the kitchen Sam heaved a sigh, knowing he couldn’t dawdle any longer. He could only get to the door by going though the living room so his choices were either run away out the back, which he would never ever hear the end of, or go back in to the living room and face Steve with his stupidly wise and knowing eyes. Seriously, let a guy live to almost two hundred and suddenly he thought he knew everything. Annoying was what it was.

He was only halfway down the hall when he heard the front door open. Sam very carefully swallowed down the jibe he’d just been about to deliver and hoped that meant what he thought it meant. Maybe Steve had finally gone vague after all and bailed in the middle of their conversation; he’d rather chase a crazy old coot down the street than talk about his feelings regarding one James Buchanan Barnes. Actually if he looked at it from the right angle then chasing an old coot down the street was pretty much his job description whenever he and his partner teamed up on missions. Sam was just glad they hadn’t been called in to one since this whole silent treatment had started because he wasn’t sure he wanted to know whether or not Bucky would still have his back even when the guy was mad at him over reasons unknown.

Two more steps and Sam froze in his tracks, eyes wide with disbelief. Bucky’s shoulders were hunched in to himself with something bridling on panic as he fit himself through the front door and kicked it shut behind himself, eyes wild and fixed on the ground between his feet, nervous energy pouring out of him in a way Sam hadn’t seen before. From his spot on the couch Steve watched his childhood friend let himself in with serene indifference.

“Didn’t know you’d be over today,” was all he said. Then he smiled benignly when Bucky let out a soft whine.

“Help,” Bucky pleaded. “I’m dying.”

Then Bucky slid down to his knees and face planted in the carpet, arms and legs splaying out wide. Steve hummed.

“You know,” he murmured, “no one ever believes me when I tell them you’re this dramatic.”

“Steve! I’m having a crisis!”

“I tell everyone you’re a drama queen and they just shake their heads at me.”

“This is important! You have to kill me, Steve. Or I’m gonna just- just-!” Bucky’s voice petered out with another extended whine muffled by the carpet that probably didn’t smell any better from that close up.

Crossing one leg over the other, Steve folded his hands in his lap with a great lack of concern for the ridiculous scene playing out before him. Sam remained frozen in the hallway, wondering if Bucky even realized he was there, but he got an answer to that almost faster than if he’d bothered to ask himself.

“What’s wrong, pal?”

“It’s Sam!” Bucky cried. His arms lifted up like wings to flail briefly before falling back to the floor in a boneless sprawl. “Please just crush my head or something. I can’t take this.”

“Ah, yes, I hear you’ve been avoiding him.”

Whatever kind of noise Bucky was trying to make, it came out sounding more like he was choking on carpet fumes. “Of course I’m avoiding him!”

“Now why on earth would you do that?”

“I want to stick my tongue in the gap between his teeth!” Bucky said, entirely unaware of the sparks that were suddenly running up Sam’s spine in the hallway. “Help me, Steve! I want to press my thumb in the little dimple on his back. He has a dimple on his back! Why!? Steve I want to hold his hand! What the fuck!”

Steve had both eyebrows up near his hairline and the most shit eating grin any human on the planet had ever worn when he turned his head to look at Sam. Frozen with his eyes on the figure currently panicking in to the floor, Sam paid him no attention. He was busy processing. After getting to know Bucky, inviting him to stay in Delacroix time and time again, the dramatics weren’t actually that much of a surprise. Obviously as they grew closer he’d gotten a number of glimpses in to who the real Bucky Barnes was under the grouchy veneer he presented to the world. Watching him starfish on the ground and whine wasn’t too far from what he’d already seen.

Hearing him say anything about his tongue in conjecture with Sam’s teeth, on the other hand, now that was a bit unexpected. More than a bit.

“I think Shuri called this ‘gay panic’ and honestly I’m in agreement,” Bucky went on mindlessly. “If I have to watch him go through one more workout and not grab his ass with both hands then I’m just going to rip both of them off. Who needs hands if I cannot grab Sam Wilson’s ass with them!?”

“You may be slightly exaggerating the situation, I feel,” Steve told him.

Bucky snorted. “I am not. I absolutely am not. Why is he so hot? And nice? I hate that. Except I don’t. Steve why is he so nice to me?”

“That might be a question you should ask him.”

“Oh yeah, sure, I’ve got lots of questions for him! Hey Sam, why are you nice to me? Hey Sam, can I lick your cheekbones? Hey Sam, how big is your cock?”

“Well. Not that I’ve ever thought to ask that myself but, alright. Go on, Sam, how big is it?”

Sam had just enough time to cross his arms over his chest and assume a very casual pose leaning against the wall beside him before Bucky’s head shot up off the carpet. If possible, his eyes were even more wild than before when he fixed them on Steve, full of the deepest betrayal. Then he very slowly dragged them sideways to see the man he’d just been panicking over. Sam gave him a very friendly smile.

“Depends on your frame of reference,” he admitted. “I’d say sizeable.”

“Nnnggggg.”

“Hi Buck.”

“Ggnnn.”

While Steve very poorly disguised a laugh behind one hand, Sam pushed off from the wall and sauntered further in to the living room. Bucky slammed his face back in to the carpet.

“Leave me here to die,” he pleaded in a very small voice. Sam tutted, reaching for the front door, only looking over his shoulder once he was halfway through it.

“Come on, Buck, can’t lick my cheekbones if you don’t get off the floor. It was a nice visit, Steve, but don’t be looking out your front curtains for a bit. I think I’ll let Bucky decide for himself what sizeable means.” He thanked god for the mercy of Steve’s house being situated out here so far from any other homes, surrounded on all sides by enough trees that you couldn’t see it from the road. A gorgeous little island of privacy. Sam was fairly sure he wasn’t the only one grateful for this, judging by the mad scrambling noises he could hear going on behind him.

Bucky’s voice garbled out something that sounded like ‘fuck you, thank you, bye forever’ and then Sam was listening to the slam of the front door barely a second before strong hands were wrapping themselves around his hips. He laughed even as Bucky’s face came in to view.

“Greatest assassin of several generations and you didn't notice my truck in the driveway?” he said.

“I may have been a bit distracted.” That was definitely a pout on Bucky’s lips.

“By being so hot for all of this”-Sam gestured vaguely down his own body-“that you literally ceased being able to function.”

He didn’t expect such easy agreement as the sheepish nod that followed his words. “Pretty much.”

Sam blinked slowly once, twice. For one long moment he considered teasing the man. Then he decided that their time was much better spent doing things they’d both obviously been wanting to do while assuming they would never get the chance.

“I was promised a tongue in my teeth. Are you gonna get to that any time soon or am I gonna sit here and pine some more for something I apparently could have had all along?”

Bucky keened piteously. Then he surged forward to follow through on his own promises and Sam really hoped that Steve had taken his words to heart about the curtains. The man was way too old to be seeing all the ways they were about to defile the side of this truck.

#rae writes #sambucky #winterfalcon #sam #bucky #steve #fanfiction #i'm not even really sorry either

[samwontshare]

Okay so I rewatched parts of Endgame to write a Sambucky fic. I haven’t seen this movie since the theaters and then S8 ep 3 Game of Thrones destroyed my life.

-The fact that The Snap took Hawkeye’s entire family way outsides the odds proves how much the universe just hates Hawkeye.

-I forgot how much I fucking love Nebula. I want more Nebula and Rhodey. Bucky and Nebula would get on, too. Disabled superheroes club unite.

-I did like the beginning of Endgame. Everyone was just so wrecked and they played it so well. Thanos living his best life in his cottage. That was great.

-I still genuinely do not understand why Steve looks at Peggy’s picture when he’s talking about bringing everyone back from the Snap because he ‘doesn’t know what he’ll do otherwise.’ Like does she represent everyone he’s lost, like Sam and Bucky, his closest connections that are actually dead from the Snap? It doesn’t make sense.

-Is that Steve running a support group because he asked himself, “What would Sam do?”

-This was actually the best scene dealing w the fallout of the Snap. The MCU was definitely not ready to address the full scope of what The Blip means and you see that lack of follow through in every movie/series post Endgame.

-Steve Rogers: “You gotta move on.” UNLESS

-“...Thanos should’ve killed all of us.” I think this is the reason Steve goes back in time, honestly. The Snap just broke him. Without Sam and Bucky, with the enormity of this failure, Steve just lost his ability to cope. Steve has always needed someone to save him from himself but they’re gone. Even though they get most people back, they still lost Tony and Nat and 5 years. Steve can’t win. And Steve Rogers cannot cope with losing. So he rewrites a history where he wins. I don’t even think it’s about not being able to get over Peggy (though they did try to shoehorn that in hard), it was about Steve needing to be in control of his life again.

-It’s one of those situations where I can understand the character’s individual choice, but from a storytelling and narrative perspective, it doesn’t make sense with the story they were telling in the Captain America movies and it’s deeply unsatisfying and confusing. It leaves so many questions and potential consequences. I wasn’t even in this fandom at the time and had zero opinions on any ships, and I was like “this makes no sense.” It still doesn’t. But you know what good for Steggy shippers, ya’ll really won. Stucky fandom, as someone who had to watch Game of Thrones S8 wreck my fandom life, I feel you. My deepest sympathies.

Anyway I skipped to the end after the support group scene. Dammit here we go:

Had to watch the final battle. Cause I had to hear Sam say on your left.

I still lowkey ship Tony/Strange

What you don’t see in the finale battle is where Sam and Bucky keep saving each other. That happened.

The backflips they had to go through to explain why Carol Danvers doesn’t end this movie in 5 minutes. Lol

Tony Stark takes no prisoners. RIP coerced alien soldiers. I have a hard time believing they couldn’t have saved Tony between a portal to Wakanda and magic but fine heroic moving death it is.

Sam didn’t have to go that hard and put a hand on Bucky’s shoulder. But he did.

Okay the finale scene with Sam, Steve and Bucky. The whole reason I watched this lol. So it looks like they’re at the wreck of the Avengers compound. It’s unclear how much time passes between final battle, funeral, old man Steve and the stones. I still theorize Sam and Bucky get arrested after this because they’re fugitives and need to be pardoned.

It’s clear Steve told Bucky and fans were right about this for ages, but why not tell Sam??????? Like seriously wtf??? Couldn’t have said HEY Sam any interest in becoming the new Captain America??? 😂

That last look Steve shares with Bucky; right in my fucking heart.

So when Steve leaves he has no shield because it was destroyed by Thanos. When Steve comes back, he brings a shield to Sam. This seems to confirm the separate branch theory. The shield Sam has comes from a different timeline. Which means Steve came from a different timeline, maybe using the same tech. So it’s possible he rescued Bucky from HYDRA and he, Peggy and Bucky lived a great polyamorous life in that verse. Aw.

But that begs the question of how Steve got the shield in a different timeline. Like WHAT. Did he go find it in the Arctic? Did he convince Wakanda to make another one somehow? Like wtf? Again this ending makes no sense.

Poor Sam. He seriously has to deal with one last mindfuck, losing his best friend that he gave up everything for, and Sam being stalwart and true, just rolls with it. At least Bucky knew. Bucky had the chance to go back with Steve (but for a million reasons Bucky could never go back, that’s what this fic is going to be about lol). But Sam is just left to deal with one more loss.

Can we talk about how Bucky 100% supported Sam getting the shield from the start. Bucky was READY for Cap Sam Wilson. Bucky was like nope this shit is written.

You can see that imposter syndrome revving up to 1000% on Sam’s face. And he turns to Bucky for confirmation this is really happening.

I think this also explains why Bucky is so defensive about the shield. It really is the only thing left of his past. It’s his only tie to the Howling Commandos, to Steve, to the person he was before HYDRA took everything. And the only hope he has in staying behind is the certainty that Sam will be Cap, and that’s the hope that makes him stay. The thin vague tie to Sam and the possibility of their future. So for Sam to reject the shield, oof, I bet that felt like a rejection of Bucky himself. Because Bucky stays for Sam.

(None of this explains why Bucky then ghosts Sam. That is the biggest mystery but there are many delicious possibilities. It’s also possible that Bucky didn’t really ghost Sam - we know his flip phone is just something he has for show. He could be talking to Sam on his smart phone. And they had another falling out.)

Dear God the emotion in Sam’s face as he processes that he’s being given the shield. Cue existential crisis!!!!!

And on to TFATWS.

#endgame #sam wilson #bucky barnes #steve rogers #sambucky adjacent #I can’t handle watching Nat die again #kind of anti endgame #it’s a mixed bag #don’t make me watch the whole thing again I don’t wanna be pissed #Kat rambles about Endgame

[wenellyb]

My journey in the MCU fandom on Tumblr: Sharing my thoughts on the Falcon and the Winter Soldier, racism in the MCU fandom and the best and the worse of the fandom

I wasn’t going to write this much but here I am… I don’t even know where I’m going with this but since The Falcon and the Winter Soldier just recently came out, I wanted to share some thoughts.

I joined Tumble because of a show I loved but most of you don’t know it “ Hit the Floor”

I stayed on Tumblr for two reasons only, Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan.

Before the Captain America:Civil War premiere, a friend sent me the link to the Sebastian and Anthony ET interview, and I was hooked. In just one interview. I discovered Anthony Mackie. The guy was hilarious!!! I just couldn’t get enough and I knew I had to know more about him. How could he improvise so many funny lines on the spot? He was just amazing.

I had pretty much watched all the avengers movie but that was it. I was not involved in the fandom. So I knew Sam Wilson’s face, but I couldn’t even remember his name if my life depended on it. That’s how much the MCU treated him as a side character.

I was like how the f*ck don’t I know this guy?

His talent reminded me of Eddie Murphy, Jim Carrey or Robin Williams, like yes they can make some emotional or serious movies, but when they want to make you laugh, you will laugh. Whether you want it or not.  I kept wondering how this guy wasn’t more famous.

And the banter with Sebastian Stan? Wow, you could tell their friendship was strong, the way Sebastian lighted up when Anthony was talking, and keep bouncing off his jokes. It was art. the way Sebastian said “ I love you” at the end of the interview. Pure gold.

I then started to watch some of the interviews and boy was that a mistake!!! I literally couldn’t get enough. So I watched all and I say all their interviews, it was the best. We got some gems:

“Why aren’t you looking at me as much”

“Which way is the beach Seabass”

*Them saying nonsense in Spanish and then Sebastian Saying Papi Chulo*

 ¨And so many more, ....

I watched other solo Anthony interviews and he was still HILARIOUS, but you could also tell he felt a little bit more at ease with Sebastian around. I won’t pretend I know him or his personality, but Sebastian seems like a little bit more of an introvert and looks like he doesn’t enjoy the interview experience unless Anthony id around him. Just my thoughts

I watched the interviews before I went to see the movie, I even cosplayed as the Winter Soldier to the movie premiere and I was IN!!! When I saw Captain America Civil War, I became a SamBucky shipper, these two were hilarious and I really so the potential for a great realtionship I love enemy to lovers stories.

I also shipped Stucky because, to me, the trope of the movie was Superhero gives up everything to protect his long term friend” Hollywood movies have some codes and if Bucky were a female character, there is no doubt in my mind that the movie would have been marketed as romance.

Stucky really was an easy ship! But then the MCU fandom of Tumblr fandom messed up everything for me. You see I really liked the CACW and I I liked Stucky, I liked Sambucky, and I loved the introduction of t’Challa’s character, but one of things that affected me the most in the movie was that it was the first blockbuster I watched with 3 black main characters, Rhodey, Sam and T’Challa. That, and the fact that they were planning to realease a Black Panther movie in two years, I was super excited, and that’s the main reason I got involved in the MCU fandom so much, when before, I was just a casual watcher.

If this seem weird to you, then you have no idea how we were only getting crumbs before. For me it was soo huge, I even told all my friends, and they were laughing at me. But usually blockbusters, especially superhero movies get one black character and that’s it, usually the best friend or something and never the leads. So, for me it really was a big deal. How sad is that by the way…

I became more involved in the fandom and, at first, I wasn’t focusing on anything special, Sambucky, Stucky, Stackie, the Black Panther, and even Zemo, whose character I really liked.

But soon I noticed that the CACW tags were always flooded, and I mean flooded with the same two white characters: Steve and Bucky. I told myself, ok that’s fine Steve is the lead after all, but it would be good to see the other characters too.

And then I noticed another interesting trend: Evanstan…. Wait what?

Chris Evans, and Sebastian Stan… did I miss something? Listen, obviously I’m sure they must be friends or something, but you’re going to tell me you watch all MCU the actors and you’re going to focus on Steve and Sebastian? I’m sorry what?

Sebastian and Anthony are right there… Or Chris and Anthony, they even have a secret handshake, only the 2 of them do… what more do you want?

Tell me one iconic Evanstan moment… go ahead tell me… See??? There isn’t.

Because of this and because of how badly some Stuckies were treating Sam and Anthony. I became less and less of a stucky shipper . I mainly focused on SamBucky, Stackie and the Black Panther,

And then the Sebastian Stan stans saw how popular Stackie, Sambucky, were becoming and I started to see some problematic stuff in our fandom too.

I don’t want to generalize, but when you go into the Stackie tag, and you see cropped pictures of Sebastian without Anthony, it’s easy to assume that a Sebastian fan did that. And we know damn well you cropped out Anthony because we watched all Stackie interviews and know exactly which interview your picture was taken from. We know that Anthony was sitting right next to Seb.

You post a picture of Sebastian laughing but you crop out the person who was making him laugh??

“but it has nothing to do with race” How do you know that?

“Sebastian had more screen time” More screen time than Anthony in CATWS or CACW? I don’t think so.

“I have been a fan of Sebastian for longer”, that’s fine but don’t go out cropping Anthony, just post gifs of Seb in his usual, sad, and Anthony-less interviews, not the ones where he’s smiling because his best friend is next to him.

Some of you really are the worst. And just so you know, your fave Sebastian is Anthony’s biggest fan, if he saw pictures where you cropped out Anthony, he would block you on the spot.

When I realized that Anthony Mackie would be the next Captain America I was screaming, no actually, I was crying, Sam Wilson will be Captain America, and Anthony would finally get the recognition he deserves.

You would think that the MCU fandom would focus on Captain America or at least one the two leads, instead of just Sebastian? Right? Right? WRONG.

Anthony is handsome, he’s funny, he’s a great actor, he went to freaking Julliard, he’s at the top, I don’t see what else the man can do??? He should already be a superstar, but no, you will side-line him even to he is the lead of the show.

Even when they are the actual leads, you guys would do anything to bring up the White characters even if it means ignoring the Black characters.

I remember I was having a conversation about Black Panther with my friends and I asked one of my white friends who was his favorite character in BP was and he told me Martin Freeman (don’t even remember his name in the movie) Martin Freaking Freeman, there are half a dozen of great characters and your fave is the only white man??? Ok, ok, that’s great.

Don’t give out automatic reply like “It has nothing to do with race, if you haven’t thought about it first”, because there’s a high probability that it is indeed about race. Stop saying it isn’t, sit down and ask yourself, “Am I biased?” “Why am I reblogging only stuff related to the white characters”.

One of these days you guys are going to make me hate Sebastian with the sh*t you are pulling.

I looove the Stackie friendship and the Sambucky dynamic but after seeing the way some of you treat Anthony and Sam’s character, it make me want to focus on Sam’s character and forget about the rest.

 I remember they were some posts about how Anthony was problematic, and I just lost it. Apparently, there was an old article that resurfaced were Anthony was making a joke about women making sandwiches or something.

If you were offended by the sandwich joke, that is totally ok, and I can understand that.

But if you were offended by the sandwich joke, and saying Anthony is problematic BUT you still stan Chris Evans, Jeremy Renner, ScarJo or even Sebastian Stan, just know that there is a high probability you’re racist.

They have all said or done problematic stuff, and people only seem to remember stuff related to Anthony, which was probably just a joke by the way.

Chris Evans and Jeremy called Black widow a wh*re, ScarJo took roles that she maybe shouldn’t have and I didn’t forget Sebastian shady Instagram post, when Kaepernick was kneeling. There are so many more things to be said about Jeremy Renner but google is your friend.

Anthony also got hate for hating on Tom Holland? Like what? Do you guys even hear yourselves? Don’t you have any friends you like to tease? If you hate someone, do you go around talking about him every chance you get? It was obviously friendly banter but some people wanted to turn it into something it was not. Sigh.

I really cannot with this fandom

 The stackie fandom was small at the beginning and the Sambucky fandom even smaller, but we were there and it was amazing. Sebastian and Anthony received the same amount of love from the fandom and I wish we could go back to those days.

Stop pretending the fandom isn’t racist. Stop saying “it isn’t about race” when you haven’t even thought about.

Saying “it has nothing to do with race” only shows that you haven’t thought about anything but don’t want to be called a racist.

There is racism in this fandom and it will always be there, but if you guys want to do anything about it, you have to acknowledge it first.

You can’t be pulling off stuff like “I don’t see colors”, “ it has nothing to do with race”. Stop, sit down, think about it and then we can have a conversation.

If you’ve made it till the end, I apologize for the typos and grammar mistakes, I wasn’t planning on writing this much.

#tfatws #anthony mackie #Sebastian Stan #stackie #sambucky #Chris Evans #captain america #CACW #fandom racism #I didn't mean to write this much #my posts

[blackgirlsuperherorants]

With more articulation, I'm ready to talk about why the push for Lokius simply bothers me, and this can be said for other m/m or w/w ships that fans push to be canon so hard just because they ship it.

It's the framing. The framing that if Marvel doesn't do it (or whatever the brand is), it's because homophobia, and if other fans don't like it/ship it, it's because homophobia (even if they ship other queer ships and are queer themselves.) And the biggest problem with that is that it overshadows the REAL issue of lack of queer representation on screen in mainstream nerd media, especially from big things under the Disney umbrella (Marvel and Lucasfilm/Star Wars, especially.)

It makes it bad that your ship isn't canon instead of bad that there haven't been any queer romances on screen in the MCU.

And like, as a writer myself, I find myself dissecting the stories of other media all the time. I can watch an MCU movie or series and pretty much assess what direction the story is going in by the narrative points they're hitting. I knew Sylki was basically gonna happen (even if just a kiss) because narratively, that's what the show was doing as soon as they had that "what is love" conversation on Lamentis-1. It didn't mean I liked it. But I knew it was happening.

Similarly, there's no romantic undertones to Loki and Mobius. None. For Marvel to make them a couple, it would mean they'd be doing it simply because the two present as men and it would make stans happy. And while there's something to be said for fan service, it would be annoying to watch them cram two guys together who aren't romantic in the slightest. I'd much rather see Loki meet some guy and have the same type of undertones they were giving to Sylvie and form a real bond to where the kiss feels earned and warranted. Not just put him with the nearest man because "he gay lol."

And how you guys are claiming it's being queer that makes you want this is beyond me. It's not being queer that makes you want this. I don't want queer characters that fuck everyone of whatever gender(s) they're attracted to even when it doesn't make sense for them to. I want real love stories. I mean, yeah, sometimes we can have a slut character, because that's fun, too, but that's not even what y'all think Lokius is. You seem to want them to be in love. But why? Because he's the first friend Loki made that isn't through Thor?

I hate that, too, because I hate this idea that queer people cannot have friends of their same gender without wanting to fuck them. IDK how y'all are, maybe y'all are like that, but I almost never have wanted to fuck any of my friends. The only few exceptions have been when I tried to befriend someone I had a crush on (in which case, usually the friendship can't work, really, because I have a crush on them.) I also think it's okay if you can have casual sex with friends, or if you have a friendship that develops into romance, but Jesus, do you people not have friends that you don't want to fuck? I am bi, maybe more pan (gender kind of doesn't matter to me, I guess) and I'm friends with people of all kinds of gender identities and like... I love them as people, which is why they're my friends, but I DO NOT want to fuck them. Especially my closest friend. I talked about her, before, here, but she's like my sister. The thought of fucking her is gross, to me. Not because she's gross, but because it feels incestuous.

Loki shouldn't want to fuck Mobius just because they developed a friendship. And that's very much how it's written on the series. They almost dislike each other (or Mobius is at least indifferent to Loki) and then they become friends.

That's not to mention the power dynamic that exists, there. And I know some of y'all are subs, but yeah, it's a bit gross to imply a sexual relationship with Loki's captor.

But on to Sylki. It sucks that I feel like most of y'all hate Sylki because Sylvie is a girl, and not just because it's bad in other ways. Like, the reasons Sylki is bad have less to do with "it should have been Mobius" and more to do with it being a lazy 1980s action movie plot that should have never happened. I'm not as creeped out by the selfcest (as many of you wouldn't have been if she was a he, I'm almost positive), but what's bad about it is that they couldn't have a strong female lead character without her being the love interest of the main guy. She didn't need to be, especially because she was a Loki variant, anyway. There was no need for it to have romantic undertones, and there was no need for them to kiss. It was sexist more than it was homophobic (and I can't help feeling like y'all are kind of being biphobic in this case. Maybe I'll talk about that, later, but yeah.) It was sexist bullshit. And there's valid criticism that Sylvie is underdeveloped. She's just angry and something for Loki to project affection onto.

I was also hoping they'd do a "found family" type of thing with Sylvie and Loki and let her be like the sister he never knew he needed, but no, they had to go trope and make her the love interest. It was lazy and bad and basically went "If Loki girl, main Loki want bone!"

Basically, having the main character fall for a character just because of their proximity and gender is bad and I hate it (and it would have been bad with Mobius, too, but yeah.)

Both the Mobius and the Sylvie thing also feel kind of racist, to me, because the show has prominent Black women who aren't even presented as desirable to Loki. And y'all, of course, ship him with anyone but the Women of Color. Y'all can pull true love with Mobius out of your ass, but he couldn't possibly fall for the Black women. lol.

Anyway. Not every show needs ships, and this show shouldn't have had any. I hate it. It's bad.

I guess on the biphobia front, I have heard some takes that it's not biphobic because Loki being queer in the MCU which hasn't shown any queer relationships, and Loki being the first openly queer character means they shouldn't have shown him with a woman presenting character. Which, I guess I get where you're coming from... but I have also been in fandoms for a long time and I see mostly girls saying this shit, which is what leads me to feel like it's simply jealousy. It happens all the time when a long-beloved single male character/celebrity suddenly starts dating a woman. Everyone hates it. And like, we haven't seen Loki be with ANYONE in the MCU, because mostly he's been doing villainy and his dating life hasn't been relevant. If the demigod says he's bi, he can kiss a woman. Especially a woman version of himself. Like I said, I hate it for other reasons, but pretending it's because he should have kissed Mobius is utterly delusional. He probably shouldn't have kissed anyone. Not in this series. There was no reason for any canon romance, especially because the show has a season 2 and we'll have time to see Loki develop earned, deserved romance with someone.

I'd much rather see them create a character just to be his boyfriend than have y'all push Marvel into making Lokius canon, which is a nonsense ship that only happened because Mobius is the only prominent male-presenting character before we meet the other Lokis.

My sincere wish is for people to remember that their ships are just ships and to enjoy them without getting all self-righteous about it. I TOLD y'all that Lokius wasn't gonna be canon like 4 episodes back, and here y'all are acting shocked and like Marvel took something from you. NOBODY expected y'all to ship Lokius. It's not even queerbait.

You can make clear arguments as to why Sambucky was queerbait. It's there in undertones in the actual series.

You cannot watch Loki and tell me you thought it was queerbait, unless you think men can't have conversations or hug goodbye without being romantically involved. Which means, in my opinion, that you need to learn about healthy masculinity.

Again, this is not a defense of Marvel. They DO need to let characters be queer, for real, and not just by saying " A bit of both". Like, let Loki be queer. Let Deadpool be queer. Let these queer characters be queer on screen. Yes.

But please stop making it about your ship. I'd rather see a flashback of Loki dating a guy and see him kiss someone he loved back on Asgard than watch y'all force Lokius. Because my queer rep is not about your crackship. It really isn't. And the fact that y'all keep calling us homophobic for not liking your ship REALLY needs to be addressed.

Like, when will y'all stop? I got on Stucky shippers about this shit in the past. All of us gay as hell, too, we just don't like YOUR ship. A lot of us like other queer ships. A lot of us like queer ships in other fandoms, too, and even have queer OCs. YOUR ship just ain't it. Stop forcing it. Literally, most of the ship wars between MCU fans have been queer ship vs queer ship, not really queer ship vs straight ship. Like, the number one Stucky rival ship was Stony. Not Steggy. People are not homophobic for not wanting your ship.

Sometimes it's because they ship something else.

And sometimes, like me, it's because they want something to make sense narratively and not happen for the sake of it happening. It's always better writing to have a character meetcute a new love interest than to magically turn a platonic friendship into a romantic relationship. Like, even when the characters are straight. Like, when Moesha dated Hakeem. It was just weird, even if he was kind of a great boyfriend. He was just supposed to be her friend, and people didn't really like it because it didn't fit narratively.

And that's why ships for the most part should be left to fanfiction, with the exception of a few where fans are right to call out the writers for not making it canon because it's clearly bait (like what happened to Destiel shippers. To see Lokius shippers compare themselves to THAT was so ridiculous. Destiel shippers had a decade of evidence only to be let down by a criminally unfair ending. Lokius shippers saw two men have a deep conversation once and lost their minds.)

Anyway, I'm not saying don't ship Lokius. I don't even hate it, really. I just think it obviously shouldn't be canon, and fans pretending like they were robbed of it is ridiculous. Literally, Ao3 exists for this reason. I will never see Steve fuck Sam Wilson, so I wrote it into my fanfic. I am not mad that they didn't actually date in the main MCU storyline.

#mcu #shippers #loki #loki series #marvel #shippers literally drive me bonkers #most of the criticism I'm seeing of the Loki series essentially boils down to Lokius didn't happen #and like .... it was never going to happen #please leave us alone #Ao3 is a great place to enjoy ship you're never going to see in the movies or on TV #please do that #don't try to call everyone homophobic for not liking your ridiculous ship #and don't obscure the legitimate criticism with your Lokius bullshit #Sylki was bad because it's sexist #she was like every woman in an 80s action movie #there to kick butt and motivate the hero with her lips #sylki isn't bad because lokius is good #lokius is bad too #it's just that both of them are okay for fanfiction #everyone wants that #just ship it #i'm begging

[zevlore]

what was the mackie situation? i’m new here sorry /:

no problem! the mackie thing was a variety interview back in june that basically framed mackie as homophobic, after multiple questions about his stance on sambucky as a romantic relationship. it was wildly blown out of proportion by a shit ton of people that didn't read the actual article and listen to the interview, in which mackie actually criticises hollywood and fandom exploitation of gay relationships potential or otherwise (aka, queerbaiting).

people were quick to jump on the mackie hate bandwagon, but most evidently, a lot of white queers engaged in anti-blackness towards mackie on sites like twitter and tumblr. on this site alone, there are still a good lot of people that think mackie's homophobic, or make memes out of the whole "exploiting homosexuality" thing, or even actively post about sambucky with captions like "mackie this is for you" and such. and that whole situation made me really want to just stay in my brown queer lane AWAY from the whites in this fandom. bc a lot of them proved to me in that week that it is NOT worth it.

(also, a lot of these people are fucking annoying with how they treat sam. how the mcu fandom as a whole treats sam is heinous, but the way "sambucky" fans that are just masqueraded st-cky fans treat sam is specifically disturbing, and it is no shock to me that most of the people i encounter that are like that are white. so i prefer to drive people that see that part in my bio away rather than take any chances.)

((but also, the Spicy Whites of this fandom? keep being spicy 🤣🤣🤣))

#asks