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#if crowley is malleus's dad
yuri-is-online · 3 months
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Ok but how did ace even get a girlfriend in the first place? Did she confess and he just went along with it? Did he think having a girlfriend would make him seem cooler? Was it a dare or something? Cause for someone like ace to just go ghost on her and not have an actual talk, kind of makes me feel like these two were not friends before they were partners.
So then, fast forward to nrc, ace is trying so hard to lose the feelings he has for his best friend. Because that's all they are: friends, homies, if you (duece) will. Yuu has the cream of the crop to pick from, he's kind of at a disadvantage here.
Plus, whose to say their entire dynamic won't change the second they get together? He doesn't want to get bored and start to hate one of his dearest friends by proxy, so might as well just play it safe and suffer a little than take that risk and the both of you suffer a lot 🤷‍♂️.
Meanwhile yuu, who still has their old phone/mp3 player, has been playing Jenny by Studiokillers on repeat. Lying in their bed, just down horrendous for this absolute ball of boyish mischief. How dare he, honestly?
Well. At least he gives them a lot of openings to flirt with him?
*disclaimer, I was home schooled so my actual knowledge about middle school dating is beyond non-existent so take what I say with a grain of salt
The information we get about Ace's girlfriend comes from his suitor suit vignette and he does not mention how they actually got together, just some of the things that they did and how boring Ace thought all of them were. And I agree! The way they broke up does not make it sound like they were friends before dating, though they could have been casual acquaintances. The way Ace likes to goof around makes me think he was probably pretty popular, and had a lot of those types of relationships. His description of the relationship makes me think he probably went out with her because he thought she was cute and that it would be fun to have a girlfriend, but didn't actually stop to think about who she was as a person or what dating actually means. And hey, he was in middle school. He was going to be a bit stupid about those sort of things. The experience seems to have made him think a lot about what he wants in a partner, and we know from Ortho he was telling the truth when he's forced to spell it out:
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His voice lines flesh out what he wants a bit more; he says he thinks it's important to find someone you have fun with and that he wants to get married later in life. So Ace knows what he wants... he just gets really embarrassed when called out on it and refuses to talk honestly about his feelings (though he kind of does that in general hehe)
So flashing forward to NRC. Ace knows what he wants and Yuu is such a perfect fit it hurts. Best friends to lovers is a popular trope in fiction sure, but in real life? At a school? Yeah right, Ace still has to see them every day if they break up, and not to mention... I feel like Ace, Deuce, Grim, and Yuu sort of fell into their dynamic almost immediately after the mine adventure and didn't ever stop to think about it because of how natural the friendship felt. And Ace knows if things end badly he's losing the whole squad, so yeah. Better to just swallow this and stay where he is. He's still in school! He doesn't need to think about dating! He's got a housewarden to surpass, upperclassmen he admires, and a bunch of idiots to take care of. He can worry about dating later. Besides, these feelings will go away after graduation he's delusional sure of it!!!
Meanwhile, back at the ranch Ramshackle Yuu is literally in a living hell. Maybe they're a bit more emotionally mature than Ace and they just know this could work out but THEY CAN'T TELL IF HE LIKES THEM BACK BECAUSE HE KEEPS GETTING SHY AND MAKING JOKES FML!!!! But like he also lets them steal his gym shirt :ccc and he gets pouty when someone else makes an offer :ccc and really smug when Yuu says no ccc: so like maaaybe? Or maybe not and this meaningless flirting is all they'll ever have and they just. Try to be ok with it and they sort of hate themselves for it.
until Sebek properly joins the friend group and looses his fucking shit
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egophiliac · 10 months
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oh, uh, this...this isn't Silver's backstory after all.
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sleepypandaarts · 2 months
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Strange thought but Sebek’s dad is definitely a Isekai protagonist.
Think about it:
He pursued being a dentist in a place where humans are mostly hated probably because he thinks fae are super cool and he wants to help them cause they don’t have a dentist and he wants a challenge when it comes to dentistry
Not to mention his super hot fae wife who could break boulders with her bare hands
And the super scary grandpa he pisses his pants thinking about
Oh the trials of love he went through to get daddy baul’s approval
But truth be told his wife probably didn’t give Baul much of a choice
“Either you let me marry this human or I leave and never come back!”
He basically checks off all the boxes for Isekai protagonist except he’s not op or anything. He’s just living life how he wants to and now he’s happily married with 3 beautiful children.
If this was a manga I would definitely 20/10 read. The usual Isekai manga plots are getting old and their protagonists suck.
Maybe I’ll just make it myself.
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ventique18 · 1 month
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Crowley as Mallepapa hc:
The first time he receives a text message from Malleus, he's so elated that he prints it, frames it, and displays it proudly on his office table. He's just so happy that his son is finally opening up and allowing them to start over from the beginning.
Crewel: "..."
🐦‍⬛: "What is it?"
🐩: "That's... A really unique decor you have there."
🐦‍⬛: "Is it not? My son has a way with words! I dare say he inherited it from me, haha!"
🐩: "It literally says 'please stop bothering me'."
🐦‍⬛: "He's a shy boy."
🐩: "He follows up with a 'please delete my number'."
🐦‍⬛: "Being keen on privacy is a wonderful trait."
🐩: "He finishes the conversation with a 'rest in hell'."
🐦‍⬛: "A wonderful vacation suggestion, indeed! What better way is there to spend the freezing winter than in the toasty lands of hell?"
🐩: "..."
🐦‍⬛: "Well? Is there anything else you need from me?"
🐩: "Please just approve my leave request. I need a break."
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luxthestrange · 2 years
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TWST Incorrect quotes#205 Dragon Tamer
How Malleus & You SHOULD have met(I just saw 1st Shrek movie)
Yuu: Oh! Aah! Aah! *Gasping as their back is against the wall with a giant dragon glaring at you*
Mal*Growls as eyes glow in the dark*
Yuu: No! Oh, no, No! *Screams, legs shacking as you look at the dragon*Oh, what large teeth you have!!!
Mal*Crowls ready to set you on fire*
Yuu: I-I mean white, sparkling teeth! I know you probably hear this all time from your food! but you must bleach, 'cause that is one dazzling smile you got there!~*Finger guns the dragon with a wink*
Mal:....???*Tilts head and eyes widen at your compliments, closing his mouth*!!!
Yuu: Do I detect a hint of minty freshness?~ And you know what else? Y-You're-*Winces as the dragon starts to shine by default you cover your eyes*
Mal*Transformed back to his humanoid form as he leans closer with reddened cheeks and a grin*!~
Yuu: You're a boy dragon! Oh, sure! I mean, of course, you're a boy dragon. You're just reeking of alluring masculinity!- What's the matter with you? You got something in your eye?*Blinks with a confused tilt at Malleus who flutters his eyelashes at you*
Mal*with his breath he makes a heart made of smoke and Kabedon you further into the wall*💚💚~~~
Yuu: Ohh... Oh... Oh.-Man...*Looks around and waves hand a bit to clear smoke* I'd really love to stay, but you know, I'm, uh - *Coughs poorly* -I'm an asthmatic!
Mal*Sadden with a worried look, Purring lowly*?~
Yuu:-and I don't know if it'd work out if you're gonna blow smoke rings~ CROWLEY! *Gasps as Malleus picked you up in his arms, Whimpering as he soon takes flight in the air* -No! CROWLEY! GRIM! GHOSTS?!-
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This Quote is inspired by @ravenrose00!
Who wants more Shrek quotes?
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mirrormazeworld · 8 months
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Twst Analysis and Findings Why Crowley isn't Malleus's Dad, Unpopular Chapter 5 Diasomnia Twst Theory
While 99.9% of people seem to be convinced that Crowley is Levan, I'm that 0.01% who is still not convinced yet because there are some things that I found really odd if Crowley is Malleus's dad. So odd that this post itself has become a long post.
If you search for something and want to read where Crowley isn't Levan/Malleus's dad, then this theory and analysis is for you because here I'll explain some points for your considerations before jumping to conclusions, though I'm not sure if anyone will care about what I write and hear this small opinion at this point.
1. Heavily implied "another dragon from another country"
In Diasomnia chapter 4, it's said from Lilia's dialogue that "Draconia clan are the descendants of the dragons". All this time we might think that "Draconia are the only dragon in Twisted Wonderland" but in chapter 5 it's revealed that Draconia aren't the only dragon in Twisted Wonderland because there are other dragon clans from faraway country.
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Malleus's dad, Levan's title is 竜眼公 in Japanese and it can be translated literally as "Dragon Eye Lord" or "Longan Lord". (More about his title, you can see it in my previous post)
If we see it the way like how longan fruit is named, (龍眼) either 龍眼 or 竜眼 still have the same meaning, but the only difference is 龍眼 is from Cantonese while 竜眼 is from Japanese.
But the main points in common are : They are both "Dragon Eye" and "Eastern Countries"
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Which means there's a high possibility that Levan is a dragon from the longan clan/eastern dragon clan.
What's more interesting is that Lilia seems to be very fond of this "Long/Eastern Dragon" that he wants to spend the rest of his life there in their homeland. Out of all the countries he can and had ever visited, why did he choose "Red Dragon Country" in particular?
In first Halloween event Diasomnia also went with the theme of Long and it's revealed that it was Malleus's idea himself with Lilia providing more information about the Eastern Dragon Country culture and the Longs. And then there's that one dialogue said by Lilia himself in the Halloween Event :
"In fact, one such Long became a family's guardian spirit"
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It is somehow similar to Levan who has been like a guardian to Meleanor and his draconia family, as her husband, her Left General alongside Lilia (Right General), and her most trusted person (Meleanor's Eyes and Limbs)
If it's not a subtle information but also kind of important that it's heavily implied many times just like Malleus who froze the time in Endless Halloween then I don't know what it is.....
2. Discarded Character Concept (?)
In twst exhibition there's an initial concept art of Crowley where he seems to have a similar theme and is somehow grouped with Diasomnia. It's because he had the same color as that of Diasomnia, even you can see the thorns on his leg and arm which as we know, is the symbol of Diasomnia/related to Draconia family (Sleeping Beauty Squad)
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However, if we compare Crowley's old design and his original, usual one, in the design of the Crowley that we know now, twst seems to actually change every Diasomnia/Sleeping Beauty concept out of him and replace it all, from "thorns" to "mirrors" and "golden keys", and leave only the "corvid" part of him.
The question is, Why did Yana and twst team go into such trouble to change him all the way?
In Diasomnia Chapter 4 it's revealed that "Briar Kingdom has two castles : Black Scale Castle (Briar Valley's Main/Capital Castle) and Wild Rose Castle (Meleanor's Castle)
Diasomnia chapter is heavily tied with Wild Rose Castle rather than Black Scale Castle and places the main casts of Diasomnia chapter in Wild Rose Castle rather than Black Scale Castle and wrote Meleanor as Princess rather than a Queen. I know Diasomnia chapter was written with Sleeping Beauty as its story frame, and Meleanor is supposed to take the role of Maleficent in that story, but the question is why they created two castles and used Wild Rose Castle as the main background of the story rather than just create and use one castle, and give the title "Princess" to Meleanor and not a "Queen" since Maleficia, Malleus's grandma is the Queen? In the original and older version of sleeping beauty by Brothers Grimm, "Maleficent" is depicted as a Queen who is jealous of Talia (Sleeping Beauty) and not a Princess. It's as if they want to separate what is "exclusively Diasomnia chapter" from Briar Valley/Briar Kingdom itself.
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This is honestly only my personal opinion, but based on these facts, the only logical, possible explanation I can think of is because they want to give this Diablo/Diaval's role to this Lord Longan so that Crowley can play a more bigger role rather than just a diplomat/messenger, and thus, discarded the old Crowley concept and made it invalid.
Thinking the old design as the valid source of information means that you want to tell people that "Epel with skirt and Idia as the little brother are canon" but are they now? Do twst used that concept in the end? Does Epel wear skirt in game and Idia is Ortho's little brother? Of course not, and you already saw it yourself that Yana already discarded that idea completely.
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3. A seemingly Disastrous Chronology if Levan is Crowley
With the given information from in game, I want you to think with logic here :
Lilia is 700 years old. NRC gave him a letter of acceptance 500 years ago, but then he ripped it, and then Levan taped it back and stored it in royal archives. Silver said they are in Lilia's dream from 400 years ago and as we know this is when the war between faes and Silver Owl occurred, and at that time it's said that Levan was missing.
Now what I find odd is : if Levan is Crowley, then who sent the NRC acceptance letter to Lilia? We all know the Headmaster is in charge of student admission just like how he permitted Yuu and Grim to become NRC students, sending letters to people acknowledged by dark mirror, persuading Kalim's family, letting Ortho enroll even though he is an android and so on. And if Crowley is Levan, he wouldn't be able to do his job as Headmaster in Land of Dawning because he would need to be present in Briar Valley by Lilia's side to tape back the letter Lilia had torn to shreds.
Keep in mind that there are no official exact years and number from twst itself how long Crowley had been headmaster of NRC yet but from Diasomnia chapter it's clear that NRC already existed back then far before the war between humans and fae.
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This one is just my personal opinion, but I'm more convinced that Crowley was the one who cast complex, ancient spell on Grim and therefore, know something about the extremely rare overblot incident that seems to always happen in NRC (and so we heard his voice summoning Yuu and said "we are all running out of time" in the prologue") and so he is tied more heavily to book 8 (Ramshackle/NRC) after Diasomnia if it does exist in the future than book Diasomnia.
Both The Watcher from Island of Woe (Idia's family) and the primeval spell that casted on Grim which seems to be similar to Shroud family's curse were from when the nature of overblot was not known yet and was considered as natural disaster, dated back to the "Age of Gods" which is approximately 1000 years ago.
But then you might think "Oh maybe Crowley had lived that long and pretended to be Levan to play his role." This is impossible because Lilia, Meleanor and Levan are childhood friends and well, Lilia said it himself that they were still children, besides Lilia is 700 years old and not 1000 years old.
Therefore I don't think Crowley is Malleus's Dad, Levan. But if someone said "Crowley was Maleficia's (Malleus's grandma) subordinate, then I can believe them because that way it will be possible for him to exist since the Age of Gods.
And perhaps this is also the reason why Yana and twst teams purposely wrote Diasomnia story with two castles and used Wild Rose Castle as the main background scene in the story rather than just created and used one castle, because they do wanted to separate it and created a place exclusively to tell Diasomnia story so it wont disturb the other plot of the other story and create a plot hole as a whole.
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And so that's all the many reasons why I don't think Crowley is Malleus's Dad. Unless someone can answer the questions that had been swirling around my head because of how absurd Crowley is Malleus's Dad theory is which I had been marked with red color in this post and explained it logically or the official told it themselves then I won't be convinced.
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glo0b · 1 month
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the fact that Crowley if he is Malleus’s dad would have had to canonly have sex with Malleus’s mom who is an absolute baddie. It’s almost as scary as knowing Goofy canonly had sex.
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lemonrin-i · 2 months
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if crowley is actually malleus' father im gonna be petrified as a malleyuu shipper and dad!crowley enthusiast
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roxanaagriche111 · 5 months
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Ok, I will say this, but I do not like this motherfucker. However, I can’t help but wonder if he is the father of malleus. Many suspect he is Leveran the husband of Malleona and Malleus’s father. It is possible honestly.
Clues:
Take a close look at his ears. It’s the same as a faes. He’s not human by the obvious ear pointing. No other species matches the ears except for a fae
Next is the time when he created Night Raven College. It’s unclear or it was already mentioned that he was the one who created the place. But in the very first chapter when we came into the picture. He mentioned that never in 100 years did the mirror summoned someone outside of twisted wonderland. Meaning he is old asf.
Take a look at his lips. Not sure if it means anything. But we know in Diasomnia that the people paint their lips as the color as Maleficent’s. So he was most likely a student of Diasomnia as only faes could get in or people who are strong asf. However, Silver and Sebek’s lips doesn’t have makeup except for Lilia and Malleus. But Lilia’s is lighter than Malleus’s. The only ones who had darker lip tint is Malleus, Malleona, and Crowley.
We then come to another thought that if he is the father of Malleus, then why does he not remember and Lilia hasn’t figured it out. Lilia is important in this as he can sense things. So it would be easy for him to sense that Crowley is Leveran. It may be because of amnesia or the change in his magic. In many stories, magic can be overwritten and sometimes it can cause that person’s aura and memories to change drastically. It could mean that Leveran is Crowley who got hit by some spell by the enemies when war with the fae and humans was still going on.
If what I think is correct then it would make sense a bit. Crowley tends to be clueless and so is Malleus. The only difference is that Malleus is more reliable than Crowley like his mother was. So I don’t know. Also, I know I’m misspelling Malleona’s name but it’s easy for my to type her name like that. Also, sorry if my grammar is bad. I’m sick with Covid currently. So yeah.
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alumi-san · 3 months
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You guys might be tired from this, but...
Cowley/Levan and Lila singing "Hell's Greatest Dad"
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oddberryshortcake · 6 months
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My own headcanon for who Malleus’s dad/Revan/Lavern is, now hEAR ME OUT BEFORE YOU SAY NO-
His dad could also be a dragon fae, but a long from the East
Diasomnia and the story of mulan are often associated with eachother. That’s what they did for Halloween, those were the stories Lilia told to his son.
Think abt it 😳
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babybulbasaur920 · 7 months
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ok so today i introduced a friend of mine to TWST. we went over like the different dorms, Grim, etc. how the characters are based off of Disney. then she asked who Crowely is meant to be. that when,
it hit me.
that theory going around about Crowley being Malleus's dad? well remember Malificent had a pet raven in both movies, and in the live action he even had a human form. so... there
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okokbutimagine · 10 months
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Ok, I do not think Crowley is Malleus' dad... but what if they were related?
Maybe he's Malleus father's (incompetent) brother? Crowley as Malleus father: boring, unnecessary drama and angst, world worst dad Crowley as Malleus uncle: hysterically funny, have you seen this man? Like do you REALLY think he can pull Malleus' mother?? We only got her sillhouette and the people are simping HARD, this loser could never
Anyways, since Malleus' dad is implied??? to be missing?? not dead??? (idk I legit only saw a few things here on tumblr maybe this is all wrong) maybe Crowley tried *insert weird ancient spell* to find him and ended up dragging Yuu to twst?
Then again, maybe I'm just trying to connect dots that don't even exist :P
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charonyx · 3 months
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Crowley braninrot mess (not coherent) (all over the place)
Just to get thoughts out of the way, I want to analyze the Crowley card because this is definitely BIG (and I hope the rest of the staff may get their cards too). Fair warning, this is all speculation, theories and just whatever my brain is spilling out
So, THIS
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My first thoughts were "Oh my gosh, really????", then I started to consider what this meant for the story, as in, why release his card NOW? Yes, this is an event card, but this is the first staff card and well this makes me suspicious of him coming into the main story. I mean, of course, he'd have to intervene somehow considering the suspicious smile he gives in the opening (which reminds me of Malleus' smile, but not getting into that, more people have analyzed that probably)
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Anyway, his role will be made apparent, but I can't think of a way he'd organically waltz into Chapter 7 and become important right now. Which is why the Crowley = Levan theory would make sense where it would be this emotional meet up of a biological father that Malleus has never known and Lilia would have to deal with the fact someone he long thought was dead is right now playing the role of a goofy headmage. The thing though, is that I have a feeling that isn't where the story is going. Do I think they have something that's connecting them together? Yes, but there's something I can't quite explain that's preventing me from fully accepting the theory. Imma just try to write out (more) thoughts and try to digest my stance on things.
So, Malleus' conflicting thoughts on knowing his biological dad is alive, yet considering Lilia his real father since HE'S the one who took care of him, HE'S the one who had suffered hatred and rebuke trying to raise him and honor Meleanor's wish, spicy stuff.
Lilia's thoughts and emotional rollercoaster of knowing that one of his best buddies/Meleanor's partner/whatever relationship they had, is alive and hasn't considered contacting him, to reach out after grieving for his loss. Also spicy.
But also
The fakeout of a parent death. Many pieces of media do it, but I don't know if it feels right that Malleus gets to have a parent be fine and alive unless they make it tragic like Crowley has amnesia and doesn't remember anything about his past yet he has some sense of determination to keep going and find stuff out even if he's not sure why. THAT would be something.
There could also be a turnaround where Levan, a kind soul, fell into grief after his wife's death and has been trying to get her back/get her soul? that he places all his energy on that and places on an incompetent and silly act. As for his feelings for Malleus, there are multiple options. He either doesn't care for him, only cares for Meleanor and doesn't pay attention to him. This doesn't seem likely to be in Levan's character from what little we hear of how he was, even if he was suffering from heartrending grief. It could also be that he somehow knew Lilia, Baul and Maleficia were caring for him and he was certain his son was in good hands so he focused on other things (idk I'm just pointing stuff out). Could also be he thought his son died with Meleanor since he was out who knows where as a diplomat and got lost/captured/something that impeded his return (paralleling how Maleficient's plan for prince Phillip was to lock him up for 100 years and later release him once he's old and frail to save princess Aurora?). So, he never knew about Malleus' existence, never went back to Briar Valley and one day found his way to NRC where he later became headmage. And, seeing Malleus in his first year look identical to his late wife, he feels heartstricken to know his son survived and he had lost many important years in his development, so he would feel no connection to his biological father. Knowing that, he decides not to interfere, what would Malleus think of a father who was never there? A stranger claiming to be his father, yet feels his son would never accept him into his heart. It's too late.
While this could be in line with Levan's personality, it does seem a bit fanficy, especially the part I added with him seeing Malleus enter NRC. But this is speculation! So YEEHAW!
Now, how would Lilia, someone who spent so many decades with Levan, not recognize him right now? The only explanation I can think of would be he either 1) has a totally distinct personality that Lilia wouldn't even consider him at all, even if the hair color seems to be similar to Malleus' or 2) he's using glamour (although TWST hasn't shown people using glamour, it's a possibility) that would make it so Lilia doesn't recognize him
Also, his cane saying "RAVEN" is real interesting since it could be for NRC or his name being similar. Wild theory, but I feel like someone gifted him his cane, I don't think he was the one that engraved Raven onto it, at least, that's considering the latter option of it being his name.
I don't know, every time I try to think of Crowley's deal, thoughts keep popping up due to the possibilities of what he COULD be.
Anyways, this wasn't a concrete post or some genius "I'VE CRACKED THE CODE!!!". Just brainworms and thoughts I had to write out and make myself accept what I consider to narrow down future events. But TWST could throw a curveball, completely blindside me and I'll be gobsmacked. Who knows!
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ventique18 · 10 months
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Whack spoilers
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"Lilia was harder on me than him (Headmaster Crowley)"
Yes bc he went to buy milk indefinitely so he wouldn't even have to raise you--
/not true btw
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luxthestrange · 1 year
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TWST!Memes #47
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Yuuken just here by Crowley's orders too keep You and Mal from having dragon babies
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