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gaymikelesbianel · 2 years

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And here’s elmax!

When do you think fell in love with Max and how she understood this?

What do you think they love about each other the most?

What’s your headcanons about their sleepover in season 3?

What do you think their future together would be like?

How do you think Max felt when El rejected their handshake?

Where would be their first date?

How would their friends and family react to elmax dating? (If LGBT people were accepted back then😔)

How did Max realize that she likes girls?

hi again!!!!

so here are my answers:

1. i think she fell in love with her during season 3. however, i don’t think she fully understood that she’s in love with her. this is because she misunderstands platonic and romantic attraction, so she was thinking her feelings for mike were romantic and max was platonic when it was the other way around. that’s why she didn’t realize she likes girls :)

2. el loves max’s confidence, and her ability to know herself and what she wants/likes. she also loves max’s style. max loves el’s powers, sure, but it’s much more than that. max loves that el is so kind, courageous and fearless. she loves how el is willing to put herself on the line for the people she loves. she loves her for who she is, not what her powers are. even without her powers max would love her just as much.

3. some hcs of their s3 sleepover:

- they painted each other’s nails and did each other’s hair

- they gossiped about the boys (and max gossiped about the stuff happening at school to el)

- el opened up a little about some of her trauma and max was there for her

- they sneaked around the house at night and when they got hungry stole food from the kitchen while hopper was asleep 💀

4. they would both support each other no matter what, and they would always find a way to do things together. if el needs to take time to get to know herself and who she is, max would be more than willing to wait for her. they understand each other’s needs and wants and have healthy communication :)

5. max probably felt so sad :( you could tell she really admired el. it was really sad to watch :((

6. i feel like their first actual date would be at a carnival or amusement park! it would be so cute and they could try out lots of fun stuff together :,)

7. i feel like everyone in the party would be supportive. it would be hard for lucas (poor lucas :() but he would be supportive too (honestly in my ideal world elumax is ftw). el’s family would 100% be supportive. el, will, jon, joyce, hop would all be so supportive of her relationship with max. i’m not too sure about max’s family tho…i feel like her mom might be supportive too. if billy and his dad were there i don’t think they would be supportive at all >:(

8. hmm…i think max probably didn’t realize until later on that she likes girls. maybe el was her bi awakening, actually. it could be she had suspicions about her sexuality as she found herself attracted to certain characters on television but idk

tysm for the asks!!! i hope you have a great day and sorry this took me so long to answer as well :,) <3

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onlyelmax · 2 years

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where do you think elmax would go for their first date? (second if you count the starcourt mall spree)

hi! tysm for the ask, i hope you’re well :)

i feel like for their first *actual* date they would set up a little picnic under the stars at night and watch the stars together while sharing their fav foods with each other <3

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harringroveera · 9 months

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It’s canon that Billy lets Max and El braid his hair while he talks about how much he loves Steve

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cloudycleric · 4 months

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it is romantic… el was obviously crying because of max 😔

REAL

ELMAX EDNGAME‼️‼️‼️‼️

#asks #byler #elmax #st5 spoilers

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swanqueenelmaxshadowhunters · 3 months

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Ronance and Elmax cuddling headcanons?

I'll try my best with this one =)

Nancy/Max are the little spoons but they will never admit and every time Robin or El mentions something about it they will give them THE glare

El and Max play with each other's hair until they sleep

Nancy likes when Robin lays her head in her lap when they are watching tv or just having a lazy moment

Max melts whenever El plays with the little hairs in the back of her neck

whenever they are cuddling, Robin will say the most random things; from love confessions to crazy conspiracy theories and Nancy just giggles and let her speak

Max hums softly El's favorite songs until she falls asleep

El steals Max shirts all the time and Max loves to see it on El, specially when they are cuddling

Sometimes, when Nancy is the big spoon, she will tease Robin, gently running her fingers on her abdomen and waistline

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your-blorbos-are-queer · 2 months

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could i get nonbinary lesbian el hopper icons? thank u !

sorry this took forever! here's your icon!

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rainysofsunshineao3 · 16 days

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Ronance being Elmax's big sisters headcanons?

Hi anon!

I feel like Robin would be closer to Max while Nancy would be closer to Eleven (Though they both love and care for the two younger girls equally).

Both Nancy and Robin were closest to Max at first (Robin could just feel the queer vibes coming off that girl, not even counting her rainbow-striped shirts or bedsheets).

Both Max and El had a crush on Nancy/Robin at some point in time.

Nancy was definitely Max's gay awakening, you can't convince me otherwise.

Robin - at first - is very insecure about her and Nancy's relationship, so when she notices something blooming between Elmax, she hesitates on talking with either of them, instead bringing it up to Nancy who assures all three girls that even if they liked boys before, that doesn't make feeling something for a girl any less valid.

Nancy teaches Max to shoot.

Robin teaches El to flirt ;)

All four of them harp on Steve about how they have more bitches than him.

Robin consoles Max about her having lingering feelings for Lucas, even though she's technically dating El (The two broke up when Max realised - Lucas was cool with it - but she's having regrets). She can't comprehend why she loves both of them and questions if she's cheating on El by even considering the idea of getting back with Lucas.

Robin explains polyamory to Max, who immediately feels comfort with the label.

"As long as there's consent from both sides and no one gets hurt, I say why not?" - Robin at some point.

Ronance just loves their adopted children / sister figures.

There's probably a lot more so I'll make a part two at some point :)

Thanks!!! <3

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autistic-katara · 6 months

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look i don’t have any problems with that canon m/f ship its just that that is a homosexual who should really be dating their same gender bestie(s) and the other mf (who’s in some kinda limbo world between gay and bi) is REALLY needed as a 3rd in their friends’ het-passing bi4bi polycule and the comphet going on here may destroy us all

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fluffyfangirl · 1 year

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#Elmax #my beloved #Max Mayfield #El Hopper Byers #I am in love with Els Outfit #also thanks to my sister for sending me ideas for her shoes #bc i love them #and headcanon for max's skateboard #she obviously asked will to draw something on it #and she's the zoomer #FluffyFangirlArt

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shreya11111 · 2 years

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Rant about Elmax, if you wish, I am curious

of course, i could rant about elmax any day!

let's get right into it

elmax is amazing. this ship has gotten me through tough times pre season 4. i much preferred this ship over l/max post-season 3 because of how unserious l/max seemed in that season (though obviously my opinion about it has changed now post-season 4 and i love it so much).

el and max complete each other. i love their dynamic in season 3, especially with max being literally the only one to encourage el to be herself and figure out what she likes. max actually wants el to be her own person, which i think is a very welcomed change from what el is used to (also there’s max being the only one to show el that she deserves better than just being treated like garbage by mike).

the el & max season 3 shopping montage is probably one of my absolute favorite parts about season 3, and keeps me from hating season 3 that much (which is telling because it’s my least favorite season). plus, i feel like the elmax/byler dynamic would be AMAZING. like, the amount of fics i read pre-season 4 with elmax & byler is insane – and they’re all literally so cute.

plus, idc what happens in the show, you can’t tell me el & max aren’t queer like...they’re both gay disasters idc💀

tysm for the ask<3

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astreinomane · 1 month

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Now I gotta ask back

Elmax headcanons??

Also what song remind you of them that's not "running up the hill" xD

Well, I already made a post about this (here), but I can easily give you new ones.

El is fascinated by Max's red hair. Like, she loves to immerse her face in it, and smell it. Max is flustered, but she lets El do this, because she secretly loves this kind of attention.

At the same time, Max is fascinated by El's powers.

She thinks they are SO cool, and, while El doesn't exactly like her powers, since they remind her of her traumatic childhood at the Lab, she blushes everytime Max defines her as a supergirl.

El is just really flustered by the fact Max sees her powers as something cool, and not as something that makes her a monster, like a lot of other people.

Max obviously reassures El everytime she has those kind of doubts, telling her that she could never see her as a monster.

For Max, El is and always will be the best thing that ever happened in Max's shitty life, with or without powers.

El is shocked, because no one ever said such kind things to her ever, but it makes her at the same time SO glad to have Max in her life.

And, now knowing that Max is impressed and not scared by her powers, El makes sure to never lose occasion to impress the redhead with them.

It works everytime.

(This is Max's reaction everytime she sees what El can do with her powers.

She LOVES her supergirlfriend SO much.)

About the song, I'm not the kind of person who associates characters or ships with song, so I don't have anything in mind, sorry.

But thank you SO SO much for the ask anyway, @broke-art-girl.

(Also, sorry for the problem this post had. This is the version that I wanted to post, but while I was working on it in my drafts, it accidentally posted itself. I don't know how the fuck it happened, since I didn't touched anything, but yeah. Sorry again. Anyway, hope you enjoy these new headcanons!)

#stranger things #el hopper #jane hopper #max mayfield #elmax #elmax headcanons #stranger things headcanons #headcanons #ask response #lovely moots 💕#elmax my beloved #elmax supremacy #i love these babies SO SO much!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤#they are my life!!!!!!

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onlyelmax · 2 years

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When it comes to fancy dates, who do you think gets dressed up more? Do you think they would both wear dresses, or would one wear a suit? Would both wear a suit? What is it like for them to dance? What cheesy things do they say to each other?

hi! tysm for the ask :)

i think el would dress up a lot! especially since she is still figuring out her style and aspects about herself (and i think this will take her some time to figure out). i can totally see max wearing a suit (and el loving it jfjdj).

i feel like el would love dancing, and she would try to perfect her dancing skills and max would be surprising decent at dancing too (tho not as good as el).

i think throughout the whole date they would just keep complimenting each other and making each other blush kfkjdk and max would never fail to make el giggle .

ty, hope you have a great day!

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her-midas-touch · 5 months

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What do you think Hopper's reaction to Elmax would be like?

Oooh great question. I think he’d support it, definitely, I just think El’s happiness matters a lot to him and he has a really protective way of showing it even if he isn’t super great with words. And they’d probably have a talk about it (and I feel like joyce would get involved and step in at some point because she’s just definitely better at the talking stuff).

For some reason whenever I think about a hopper and elmax confrontation I always think hopper would just do it separately with each of them if that makes sense. I think he’d be really careful around the topic because of how queer people were viewed at the time (and explain that to el cause idk, I don’t think she’d have a super clear idea of exactly how bad the homophobia can get but at the same time, she probably has some idea if elmax are already dating by then) and he’d make it super clear to el that he’s proud of her and loves her 🥹.

And with max the standard “you’re a good kid” and a gentle reminder for them to be careful and to treat each other well. I feel like it would be somewhat awkward for hop but the emotional feels>>>

I think elmax would be gently handled lmaoo though there might be a couple of jokes thrown into it to lighten the mood (esp living for the possibility that hopper would just say something about how “it’s an upgrade from the wheeler boy” lol)

Anyway yeah, loved this one, ty for the ask!! Hope you’re doing amazing:))

#elmax #asks #its additionally so funny to me because hopper in any case isn’t actually rid of mike either cause byler is real 🤷‍♀️#and ahhh hopper and el’s familial relationship is SO GOOD #legit one of my favorite s2 dynamics #i love them dearly

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mioakem · 2 years

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There’s nothing that annoys me more than when I’m reading a st fic and they pull out a “mum” or “bloody hell”

#like it throws me off so bad #these bitches live in small town America they ain’t gonna be asking for crumpets and tea #byler #jancy #elmax #Lumax #Jopper #mike wheeler #will byers #nancy wheeler #jonathan byers #max mayfield #lucas sinclair #el hopper #jim hopper #joyce byers #stranger things

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lumaxramblings · 1 year

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How does the relationship advice Max gave relate to childhood trauma?

I HOPED SOMEONE WOULD ASK LETS GO

so this is the advice she gives to el, right? what i'm going to go into here is max's trauma about her parents' divorce and her feelings on her stepfather.

this is quite long so i've divided it in parts for you: part 1 which has two sections ('the divorce' and 'emotional abuse') and part 2 which has one section ('conclusion'). the first two sections are basically explaining what happened within max's family, the conclusion is how it all affects max and a tl;dr of sorts.

ALSO THIS IS NOT BILLY HARGROVE FRIENDLY, GO AWAY BILLY STANS

TRIGGER WARNINGS: discussions of divorce and emotional child abuse (nothing graphic)

THE DIVORCE

so, the first question out of the way: can divorce cause trauma? the answer is a quick and easy yes, especially in max's case.

in the book runaway max, which is probably at least half-canon, max describes both her parents. her mother seems to be quite weak-willed, but still seems to just want the best for max. however, it is clear that max doesn't get nearly as support as she needs from her. max is an incredibly understanding and kind child, because she understands that her mom isn't really the supportive type, more like someone who takes care of her without the emotional support part. (NOTE: susan is NOT abusive. one of the reasons why she can't support her daughter is because they understand the world, themselves and each other in drastically different ways: susan cannot reach out to max because she doesn't understand her, and therefore cannot give her the emotional help or support she needs).

sam (max's father) on the other hand clearly understands max much better and doesn't question her boyish style or how she's Different than others (which could be autistic coding but thats for another day asjhshjs). in this case, he could be there, but he isn't, being too busy for her.

we can assume that max, as she was so young, was not given a talk about the divorce as a whole after the divorce had actually happened, given that her mother doesn't really seem the type for big, emotional conversations. she most likely got a simplified version of what was happening and why she'd be seeing her dad less because she was so young (around 8-9 based on max/billy's memories), which lead to misunderstanding and, as her father understood her more, she was naturally defensive of her dad (which is why we see her quick to defend him in the bus talk), and naturally a little resentful of her mom, especially considering she didn't truly grasp what had actually happened due to being so young.

this resentment would grow when susan starts dating again: in runaway max, it's mentioned that susan had flit from boyfriend to boyfriend, each of which eventually leaves because of personal issues (gambling, debts, etc). max sees this as a kind of betrayal to sam, and a complete change in what her family had been like - she would later know, around s2, that the cracks had always been there, and it was just a matter of time, but for now she's too young to think that her ex-family was anything but perfect, so she holds resentment towards her mom and starts to put her dad on a pedastal, as well as thinking that men are liars and cheaters.

EMOTIONAL ABUSE

then susan marries neil, and with him comes billy. max, at first, was hopeful that she'd have a family again after her last one broke, only to be let down very quickly. here's a heartbreaking excerpt from runaway max:

billy doesn't treat her like a sister: in fact, he insists she's not his sister constantly, and emotionally abuses her.

'yes, yes, anthony, but what is emotional abuse?' i hear you cry. here's a definition from google itself:

Emotional abuse involves controlling another person by using emotions to criticize, embarrass, shame, blame, or otherwise manipulate them. While most common in dating and married relationships, mental or emotional abuse can occur in any relationship—including among friends, family members, and co-workers.

the parts in bold are the parts that are relevant to max herself and billy's abuse of her. here's some symptoms and signs of emotional abuse, as well as some examples of said symptoms, taken from healthyplace.com:

you'll notice that billy has almost all the signs and shows off many of the examples given, particularly in episode two. there's this great post by @madcleradin (hey sierra, tell me if you want be untagged) with my reblogs to show the examples themselves and this is the root of max's self hatred and self blame, but the very short tl;dr version is that his abuse of her affects her perception of others and herself in a negative way.

neil also plays a role in this - max probably thought he was just another one in the list of shitty boyfriends, except when things started getting more serious, she started to get confused, though she was happy when told that she was going to have a family again, because at the time she was still in the mindset that 'family = comfort' because again, she was never told what caused the divorce, which lead to her thinking it was sudden and doesn't alter her view of what 'family' just yet.

she was excited to have a comfort, excited to have someone to talk to other than nate (her best friend), because she still associates family with comfort. but when billy abuses her, at first she's confused on why family would treat family like this. that's when her view of what family means does a 180º.

because they told her that neil and billy were family, she started associating the word 'family' with violence, fear and control. as she grew up, this just got planted more and more deeply within her, all while she still resents susan a little for a) leaving her dad and b) marrying neil and bringing him and his son into their life, a decision which has only lead to fear and pain on max's half.

CONCLUSION

you may be wondering what any of this has to do with max's advice to el. well, dear anon and readers, i am here to tell you.

in this, max isn't seeing mike as how she remembers him, and is thinking back to all those times those shitty boyfriends of her mom did the same thing, not realizing that it's not like that because mike genuinely does care about her and because they're fourteen (yk how when you're young you don't feel young until you look back when you're older? yeah that) it's not that deep yet. max has been thinking and calling the shitty boyfriends pieces of shit for years.

NOTE: max does NOT think mike is a bad person, nor does this mean she hates him. she just thinks what he did is shitty, but she clearly thinks he can make up for it (note how she says 'if he doesn't fix this, doesn't explain himself', which i doubt any of the boyfriends of her mom did). this is NOT a mike hate post, he's one of the characters of All Time, this is just about max's trauma !!!

now, this obviously isn't her talking about lucas (see here why honesty is a vital part of why lucas and max are friends), so max is almost definitely referring to her mom's boyfriends and can't see that mike isn't like those guys, as mentioned above.

this is straight up projection. really, all of max's lines regarding mileven this season are just projection, but this really shows. i cut out the part where she says that if he doesn't explain himself, then el should dump his ass because that, as mentioned above, is because mike is still her friend (if tentative because yk).

she doesn't understand why her mom can't just up and leave neil, and so when she sees el who she probably subconsciously parallels to her mother (in runaway max, her book, she describes her mom as "her personality changing into every guy she meets", so she's scared of that happening to el) and so she unintentionally projects her desire for susan to break up with neil onto el.

she wants susan to break up with neil, but as she can't have that and she has trauma from living in close quarters to an abuser she's dealing with her trauma this way.

NOTE: she is NOT using el only for her own gains. she genuinely thinks this is good advice, if only because of her warped perception of love and her mother's (failed) relationships.

this line is also evidence of max projecting onto el and mike, except this time she's not projecting her mom onto el, but instead herself. we know, via scenes in season two, that billy is extremely controlling of max. he gives her unspoken and spoken rules (unspoken would be don't speak back, don't blame him, etc etc; spoken would be the threat of what he'd do if she 'disobeyed' him). she has been controlled for a good near-half of her life via rules, especially considering we can presume neil also controlled her (although much less than billy did). she's been so roughly handled and controlled using rules, rules which she has to go by to survive in that household, that she literally can't see the tons of rules put on el being for her safety, because that's never how it's been for her.

a tl;dr of that paragraph: rules have been used on max with malicious intent for so long that max cannot recognize that the rules on el are for safety and come from a plce of love.

and a tl;dr for this whole essay: all of max's advice stems from her childhood trauma from her parents' divorce, her mom's boyfriends who were liars, and her abusive stepfamily

hope you liked this extremely long essay.... and aren't too upset when you asked for a page and i made you a book shshjshjhjss

yeah this was very long but i loved talking abt it, slr i've been busy but i've been excited to get this finished.

also... if im gonna be honest most of this was just me looking way too deep into what were actually just jokes abt female humor by the duffers and ik that but also like. its a trauma thing because max's experience of love and men is very different and shapes how she views them so ofc her relationship advice was off

anyways if youve read all that i'm platonically in love with you

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