#bandstand deserved better

[the-river-rix]

Johnny Simpson edit

#bandstand #bandstand broadway #donny novitski #wayne wright #donny nova band #julia trojan #bandstand musical #johnny simpson #nick radel #jimmy campbell #davy zlatic #bandstand hcs #the donny nova band #bandstand deserved better #bandstand bway #lemon demon #amnesia was her name #Johnny Simpson is so silly I adore him

[inafever]

On how much Aziraphale has learned since season one:

This is about character development. Inside of a story, everything that happens, happens for a reason. It's meant to tell you something, to teach you or the character of your story, something.

So if the story continues and your character repeats the same mistakes again you know that they are bound to be doomed this time, and even worse the audience is going to certainly lose respect for them, cause they have made the same mistake twice, they haven't learned anything, they're gonna do it again another time, they don't deserve a happy ending. (yes I'm talking about good omens here) So you don't do that to a character that matters to you and you respect even the tiniest bit.

A Lot of us here are thinking that this is what has happened to Aziraphale's character at the end of season two, that he has done it again, repeated the same mistake again and has left Crowley to join heaven and it's been because of reasons like wanting to change Crowley (not true, see this post), still believing in heaven's goodness (not true at all), not being on the same page with Crowley (I'm gonna talk about this one especially in this post) and such likes. But these are the things he should've known better about after 6000 years and all the events that we've learnt about especially throughout season two. (It seems to be rather the whole point doesn't it?)

But we all seem to rather believe that he's made that mistake again nonetheless. so what we're doing here is trying to find reasons to justify the mistake and somehow make the reason behind the wrong actions something relatable to ourselves so we can forgive him when the time comes.

In fact I don't believe that he's made a mistake. for Aziraphale's character to be redeemable, what he has done, must be the only option that he's had for saving them both. I don't care what kind of situation could have resulted in him making this decision, but the only reason, the one and only reason, must be his love for Crowley. Otherwise it'll prove that he hasn't learnt his lessons or doesn't love Crowley enough to make a compromise, and in both cases, he's not worthy of love. He won't earn his happy ending by being tortured and feeling sorry and doing the apology dance for Crowley if he's hurt Crowley out of selfishness and stupidity again

But I'm sure he'll earn his happy ending and I'm sure he's learnt his lessons and it's too late for him to have unlearned them all in a matter of a few seconds. (He is an idiot but he's not stupid) and it's mostly because of this, that I believe the reason why he made that decision, must be very different from what it appears to be on the surface.

Anyway, this post is about what Aziraphale has learned and how he's changed.

I have made a post about their moments of conflict from both season one and two, it's here and you can look it up. This is where you begin to understand how Aziraphale has changed since season one because these are his dialogues after he's had a fight with Crowley in the bandstand, season one:

"even if I did know where the antichrist was I wouldn't tell you we're on opposite sides"

"friends? We're not friends. We are an angel and a demon. We have nothing whatsoever in common. I don't even like you"

"there is no our side Crowley. Not anymore. It's over"

And then there's season two, when they disagree on what to do with Gabriel, Aziraphale is the one to point out that they both rely on the life they've built together

He's asking him to help him take care of Gabriel together and in response Crowley leaves

In the final scene he asks Crowley to come back to heaven

"work with me" "We can be together as Angels, Doing good" "I need you."

He says anything he can think of literally to convince him to stay with him and it doesn't work

We start from "we're not friends" and arrive at "work with me. we can be together"

Even if we don't know the reason why he's insisting on taking Crowley back to heaven with him, this is an Angel that has picked up the pace. That wants them to be an us. No matter what.

But these are only a few dialogues. I think there's more than that. I think the show in five and a half episodes (out of six) has tried its hardest to make the point quite clear about how Aziraphale feels about Crowley (or how strongly he feels those emotions). all through the way he looks at him and through his gestures and soft touches from time to time

I'm gonna make another post of those moments separately and I'm gonna link it to this when I do.

update: (here's the post. not just average moments of Aziraphale looking cute, it's something about the way he looks at him)

And I'd like to even compare those wishful glances to some of those from season one, but I can't, cause they are nonexistent in there.

#remember season two is a test of faith guys #we're the job in this one #neil liked this #good omens #good omens 2 #gos2 spoilers #good omens spoilers #gos2 #good omens season 2 #aziraphale #crowley #ineffable husbands #aziracrow #gomens #gomens 2 #neil gaiman #good omens season 2 spoilers #good omens season two #good omens thoughts #good omens analysis #good omens meta #gos2 theory

[weirdly-specific-but-ok]

pt XV good omens entire season 1: a nice and accurate summary

@neil-gaiman I like to delude myself into thinking you would be proud of this. Are you?

Hello, Asmi here, I present to you a summary so nice and accurate that if you're feeling masochistic, you can just breeze through this to catch up and then directly rewatch season 2 to cry! Which is what this fandom loves to do, so as mascot I'm here to enable you :") Spoilers here, of course, and a lot of chaos.

Episode One! We open with God narrating the Fall of Man and we've got ourselves a Bible AU, east gate angel/serpent forbidden lovers, quite wonderful really.

The serpent (Crowley) now in human form takes the Antichrist and catwalks across a graveyard. Crowley delivers the Antichrist to Satanic nuns but there are several fuckups.

The East Gate guardian (Amoxicillin) and Crowley raise the wrong baby for eleven years with Amoxicillin being a frightening gardener and Crowley being a gorgeous nanny.

They realise the baby is wrong. The real Antichrist wasn't raised by them and therefore owns braincells. He names his hellhound Dog.

Episode Two! Gabriel the angel is an ass, we get some nice witch-burning of Agnes Nutter who made prophecies, and oh yeah the apocalypse is now happening and the horsepeople are out.

Nutter's descendant finds the Antichrist and friends and is hit by Azithromycin and Crowley who are in love. Things happen but what is important is Azithromycin and Crowley stare at each other and also Dog faces off a tabby. Azithromycin lies to Heaven.

Episode Three! Crowley looks gorgeous at Noah's ark, Architecture tries not to listen to her about how shit it all is, boom flood dead.

Lots of romantic flashbacks with Archibald and Crowley, medieval, shakespeare, french revolution etc etc lots of sexual tension, Archibald is in handcuffs, Crowley rescues his books from a Nazi bombing.

Antihistamine gives Crowley holy water, breakup breakup, paintball, sexual tension wall slam, bandstand breakup, it is very sad.

Episode Four! Duck aliens invade earth, the Antichrist possesses children, Crowley and Aripiprazole are incompetent at heroics. Aripiprazole is sent to heaven and everything is on fire.

Episode Five! Crowley is very very sad and Antibiotics reappears and possesses a lady, there is vague hetero sex, Crowley is useless, Antibiotics is the posh gay, everything is still on fire.

Episode Six! Big apocalypse face-off, Crowley's car blows up, no one comforts him, Arsphenamine is now back in his body, eleven year olds kill the horsepeople because Crowley and Arsphenamine are still useless, the Antichrist solves his daddy issues.

Crowley and Antipyretic switch places to survive and then they go out to drink and toast to the world and everyone cries.

THE END! WAHOO!

[I am so, so sorry to everyone who was involved in the production of this show. You deserved better than this summary. But this is what you got. Blame the fandom, I am only a figurehead and mascot.]

#good omens mascot #good omens #good omens fandom #weirdly specific but ok #asmi #crowley #maggots #lgbtqia #aziraphale #neil gaiman #good omens 1 #go 1 #good omens season 1 #aripiprazole #i decided to spice up aziraphale's name #it's all the same anyway #ineffable fandom #ineffable idiots #ineffable husbands #ineffable spouses #nice and accurate summary #the nice and accurate prophecies of agnes nutter #ineffable #aziracrow #children of divorce #adopted child of divorce #gnu terry pratchett #david tennant #michael sheen #ineffable motherfuckers

[cinnamon-stccs]

Back in my hating DEH phase. Fucking hate that show and its message.

I feel like so many Dear Evan Hansen enjoyers like the show because of its music and its actors and the one gripe they usually choose with DEH critics is that they aren’t taking the story seriously. As if the only gripe with the show is “Evan Hansen impersonated a suicide victim so he could bone Connors sister”. But that’s not necessarily the problem. The problem is that Evan doesn’t get any backlash from the Murphys. Not really. And you can argue that forgiveness is important to the story but forgiveness is a choice. And Evan didn’t deserve forgiveness because what he did was awful and really fucking bad- and it doesn’t matter that he’s mentally ill. Being mentally ill doesn’t excuse you from responsibility. That’s why being mentally ill sucks.

And I feel like the show only works for people who aren’t chronically mentally ill- because it doesn’t accurately portray someone who is chronically mentally ill. We know that Evan Hansen is supposed to have GAD and because of that, depression. But why would that make him delusional? It wouldn’t. Evan knows he’s lying and feels bad about it but is so attached to the idea of having friends that he doesn’t want to give it up because he’s getting attention from lying. There are so many better ways for Evan to help his mental health that would not involve ruining his own life or destroying other peoples trust or turning literally “the internet” against the Murphys.

And it’s SO INFURIATING that the same year Evan Hansen SWEEPED the Tonys for its shitty gospel-esque church music and horrid portrayals of the mentally ill- Bandstand by Richard Orebacker, starring Corey Cott and Laura Osnes- a story that aptly portrays not only Anxiety and Depression but PTSD, Good and accurate portrayals of OCD, ADHD, Autism, and chronic pain. It had phenomenal choreography, true-to-form Gershwin inspired tracks and a unique perspective on Greif and DEH still left with 6 awards and bandstand left with 1

#mostly hate Ben platt #Mr. Faist could never do anything wrong #DEH #tw DEH #postin

[joyfulsoda]

It's that time at night where I remember this scene and think about how Bandstand deserved so much better. There is so much characterization and emotion in this single moment. The lighting and choreography rips my soul out and then makes it sing.

I wasn't even in the fandom when it was on Broadway/touring, and I miss this show so much.

#bandstand #bandstand musical #broadway #broadway musicals #musicals #musical theater #musical #donny novitski

[queercomesthesun]

Jane Austen P+P Quotes that could be from Aziracrow

Upon Aziraphale asking Crowley when he fell for him:

"I cannot fix on the hour, or the spot, or the look or the words, which laid the foundation. It is too long ago. I was in the middle before I knew that I had begun."

discussing the argument at the bandstand:

"How you must have hated me after that evening!"

"Hate you! I was angry, perhaps at first, but my anger soon began to take a proper direction."

Crowley musing on why Aziraphale treated him so kindly from the start:

"Your surprise could not be greater than mine in being noticed by you. my conscience told me I deserved no extraordinary politeness, and I confess that I did not expect to receive more than my due."

plus some more versatile ones:

"You must know... surely you must know it was all for you."

"In vain I have struggled. it will not do. my feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire and love you."

"Against my better judgements I have fallen in love with you."

#good omens #pride and predujice

[owlpuddle]

I'm so sorry, this show probably deserves better, but I put on Bandstand last night and couldn't stop thinking about how it's The Full Monty but with PTSD instead of stripping

#the music is good if a little same-y #i don't care about war narratively #so like #we'll see #this comparison wouldn't come to mind if i hadnt just watched TFM a couple weeks ago #bandstand

[americanahighways]

Bentley's Bandstand: Favorite Albums of 2023 (Second Half)

Bentley's Bandstand: Favorite Albums of 2023 (Second Half) #jondeegraham #gregghill #staceykent #nilslofgren #lukasnelsonpotr #ourmaninthefield #rollingstones #grahamparker #thethirdmind #dennyfreeman #willhermes #loureed #americanahighways #billlbentley

Bentley’s Bandstand: Favorite Albums of 2023 (Second Half)By Bill Bentley Jon Dee Graham, Only Dead for a Little While. Magic tricks are still the most compelling component of what gets heard in the world, and no one has pulled a better one out of his sleeve this year than certified Texan Jon Dee Graham. It doesn’t hurt to die and then come back to dig out some deserved hosannahs, but what…

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[danglovely]

Regrading Taskmaster: S02 E03 A pistachio eclair.

*Score changes noted in parenthesis.

Prize Task: Best dinner party guest.

Doc correctly calls out Greg saying The Last Skeptic looks like a car thief as racist. Jon brings in Greg, but surprises him with it, which is not bringing him in. Katherine bringing in a family member is essentially a kid forgetting to do the assignment and grabbing what's closest. Richard brought in a dog . . . I'm very much not a dog person, but I acknowledge this is great for a lot of people. Joe brings in Britain's sixth strongest man, which is awesome.

Doc: 4 (+1) Joe: 5 (0) Jon: 1 (0) Katherine: 2 (-2) Richard: 3 (+1)

VT 01: Impress this mayor.

Wow, nobody liked doing this task. Jon was very correctly embarrassed about being able to do nothing and rightly received one point. Katherine's rap was pretty terrible and definitively worse than juggling. Joe maximized what a talentless person could do but probably still falls behind Doc, who is a talented singer and Richard, who can juggle.

Doc: 4 (+2) Joe: 3 (0) Jon: 1 (0) Katherine: 2 (-3) Richard: 5 (+1)

VT 02: Make the most unexpected silhouette on this screen.

Alex explains this task as what shadow is most different from the items that compose it, but when reading it out one can infer that it means the shadow that seems most impossible to achieve.

I like Doc's, but it seemed pretty easy to get to. Richard's had an animation aspect to it. Joe just kind of ignored the call of the task. Katherine was ambitious and achieved her vision somewhat (Greg is not wrong that "Simba" looks closer to a severed horse head). Alex described Jon's as "nearly beautiful," which is right. However, it's also the worst.

Doc: 3 (+2) Joe: 1 (-2) Jon: 2 (-3) Katherine: 4 (+2) Richard: 5 (+1)

Studio Task: Buy a gift for the Taskmaster.

Donating to charity in someone's name is universally a terrible gift. It's an attempt to kill two birds with one stone, so Richard deserves last. Joe goes for a non-sequitur in water skies. Jon got a cookbook which Greg correctly identifies as pointless. He would have been better off spending the whole amount on penny sweets. Doc recaptured a childhood game that Greg called "really great." Greg is so excited about being a lord that I really don't know how Richard wrestled five points out of him.

Doc: 4 (+1) Joe: 2 (0) Jon: 3 (+2) Katherine: 5 (+1) Richard: 1 (-4)

Team Task: Put on this blindfold. Put the earplugs in your ears and the ear protectors over the earplugs. You must remain within your bandstand. Do not read this out loud. Get a potato.

It's always a delight to see Josh Widdicombe. Joe actually did an amazing job of directing his team. It is inherently unfair to have a former champ on one team. Also, there is no instruction that only one team gets points. So, a point split is appropriate.

Doc: 2 (+2) Joe: 2 (+2) Jon: 3 (-2) Katherine: 2 (+2) Richard: 3 (-2)

Live Task: Throw the rabbits into your hat.

Ahh, the bullshit task. Katherine wins on this because nobody realized that each rabbit counted for an actual series point. Upon review, it isn't explained or implied. The task should be graded as most tasks normally are. As such . . .

Doc: 4 (-8) Joe: 4 (-8) Jon: 1 (-3) Katherine: 5 (-10) Richard: 2 (-5)

Final

Doc: 21 (0) Joe: 17 (-8) Jon: 11 (-6) Katherine: 20 (-10) Richard: 19 (-8)

A major score shift due to an unfair task; Doc rightfully should have had a win streak going.

#taskmaster #doc brown #joe wilkinson #jon richardson #katherine ryan #richard osman #tm regrade

[daydreaming-optimist]

hi! what are some of your favorite parts of bandstand?

Hi anon! Well, there are the obvious things, of course. This is Life (Reprise) comes to mind, and all of the dancing, and the scene where Donny tells Julia about Michael's death (yes it makes me sob my eyes out but the scene itself is done so well), and the way the band members interact with each other and with Julia, and the way the show deals with such heavy topics but is constantly reaching for light - I could go on and on

But I think I'm going to showcase some of my absolute favorite parts of the show that I don't think are talked about enough just in general

idk maybe they are and I just haven't seen them

Counterpoint/Pie Jesu

Julia and Johnny Dancing During Breathe

The Piano Push

The Reunited Lovers in Welcome Home

#...sigh #i just love this show so much #bandstand deserved better #answered asks #anon #bandstand broadway

[the-river-rix]

I present, the most atrocious thing I have ever made,

Bandstand but it’s just the vine boom sound effect

(Tw for loud noises)

#bandstand #bandstand broadway #donny novitski #wayne wright #donny nova band #julia trojan #bandstand musical #nick radel #johnny simpson #jimmy campbell #davy zlatic #andy blankenbueler (cant spell) is a choreo/direction genius #bandstand deserved better #paper mill playhouse bandstand #bandstand proshot #bandstand bway #donny novitski is autistic as fuck #shitpost #bandstand shitpost #vine boom sound effect #i’m sorry

[luckyklutznerd]

Do you think any of the Donny Nova Band pieced together that the reason they cleared the preliminary so quickly wasn’t because of their amazing song (even though it was amazing), but because they were the all-vets band and the organizers were planning on picking them to win even if their song was terrible because using people’s pain for your gain is totally fine? But then they were like “Hey, you want to use our experiences? Here you go!” And dumped Welcome Home on them and the organizers weren’t down for that much reality. They wanted the painted reality that makes everybody look like amazing people who are caring and patriotic and brave, and they were planning on dishonest means to get it. The Donny Nova Band blew that up with their honesty and overwhelmed the fakeness of that whole contest. 

#bandstand #bandstand deserved better #welcome home finale #welcome home #love will come and find me again #musicals #theatre #broadway #donny nova band

[toomanytaterthoughts]

I wish Bandstand would’ve stayed on Broadway long enough for Jeremy Jordan to play Donny and follow in Corey Cott’s footsteps for once. 

#bandstand #bandstand the musical #donny novitski #donny nova band #corey cott #jeremy jordan #broadway #jack kelly #newsies #laura osnes #bandstand deserved better

[trekkiehood]

Donny is so cocky and thinks he's the best musician out there but the second Julia is struggling he's like "my bad. I messed up. Not her. It's all on me." And I love him so much for that.

#bandstand #bandstand deserved better #bandstand broadway #donny nova #the donny nova band #donny novitski #julia trojan

[crazymecjc]

so glad that bandstand won the tony for best musical 😌

#bandstand #carissa speaks #yes i just rewatched it again what about it #i still have many many thoughts #anyways bandstand deserved better

[vogelmeister]

i still like to imagine the 2017 tony awards never happened 

#anastasia #come from away #bandstand #they all deserved better #tony awards #2017 tonys