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pro-sipper · 4 months

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"Dead Dove: Do Not Eat"

About the tag, the origin, and why I think no one on either side of the fandom divide knows how to use it

First of all, I'm crosstagging because I think it's a general issue, not just something for pro or anti shippers. I see the tag get misused on both sides and I just wanted to throw my two cents in

So, where did the term originate? Like all culturally significant things online, it started as a meme. More specifically, a meme from the television show Arrested Development. Character A has put a dead dove into a brown paper bag to store in the family's fridge. On the bag, he has taped a sign that reads, in big bold letters, "DEAD DOVE. Do Not Eat!"

Character B comes across the bag, reads the warning, and opens it anyway. When he's met with, you guessed it, a dead dove, he proclaims "I don't know what I expected".

This is an example of (and has since basically become the spiritual successor to) the "Exactly What It Says On The Tin" trope.

If you want to check out the full history and countless examples of the trope, please check out the page on tvtropes. But for a slightly shorter history - it originated in a British commercial for Ronseal's Quick Drying Woodstain, which the tin claimed "dried quickly". And in the commercial they told you "It does exactly what it says on the tin!" So, the tin says what the product does, then the product does it. You get the idea.

In fandom spaces, the trope just means that the title of Thing (be it movie, show, fanfic, etc) tells you exactly what happens IN Thing. If a show is called "Buffy The Vampire Slayer", you already know it's about a girl named Buffy who slays vampires. If the movie is called "Cocaine Bear", you can bet a bear will get into some cocaine at some point. If there's a fanfic called "Fluttershy Has Tea With Jesus"... you get the idea.

While both tags started out with the same intentions and meaning, I don't think it's any wonder that "dead dove do not eat" has been so easy to misinterpret. For one, "exactly what it says on the tin" sounds more straightforward. You don't have to understand the specific reference to infer it means to check the label (in this case, tags) before purchasing (opening) the product (fanfic)

But dead dove is harder to understand if you don't know the reference. And at a glance, it sounds much darker. Doves have symbolism in multiple religions, and are seen as a symbol of peace. A dead dove evokes images of gore, violence, general unpleasantness. It must only apply to something sinister, right?

The thing about "exactly what it says on the tin" is that the tin needs to say something. You can't point at a blank label and say "here's what you can expect". People would be much less likely to engage with your product if that were the case

In the same vein, slapping "dead dove do not eat" on a fic with no other tags can lead to confusion. In this tag's case, it's a warning. But what are you warning about if you don't also put it in the tags? It leaves people's minds to conjure up only grim and upsetting images of what might be in your fic. Especially when, as it's also common to do, the tag gets shortened to simply "dead dove".

And while, yes, the tag is most likely to get slapped onto fics with dark or upsetting subject matter, that means something different for everyone who comes across it.

Most people seem to think it only applies to inappropriate relationships (age gap, incest, etc). But I've seen it applied to a variety of things, from potentially triggering material (like suicide) to things that simply may not be everyone's cup of tea (like excessive gross-out toilet humor).

In the end, "dead dove do not eat" is a tag that, in my opinion, should not be used as a descriptor as to what type of content your story contains. But rather, a gentle warning to say "hey, I'm specifically telling you what you're about to encounter, so whatever happens next is up to you".

After all, if you read the warning and still open the bag to find something you don't like...

I don't know what you were expecting.

#proship #proshippers #proshipper #proshipping #antiship #pro ship #anti ship #antishippers #antishipper #anti anti #certainly this will lead to nothing bad #anyway if you disagree or have something to add feel free!#this is just pulling from my own knowledge and experience of what i've seen around #so let me know if you're experiences or observations are different #i would appreciate it

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wandering-wolf23 · 7 months

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PSA

Things I should not have to say:

Don't threaten to blow up pro-shippers on social media. That's called a terroristic threat. Don't even joke about it. You might think it's funny and it might get a few eye rolls from the adults in the room, but the DoJ/FBI/Homeland Security/People it gets reported to have no sense of humor.

Trust me. I work with them. I swear any sense of humor gets trained out of them.

At best, they're going to knock on your door and explain to your parents/partners/assorted housemates what you're doing online. At worst, it's a no knock raid because they think you're a terrorist.

All it takes is one person reporting what you said. What may be an obvious joke to you probably isn't to the team of people going through the cyber tip line. While you might be joking, Cletus in Montana with the pile of tannerite talking about how he wants to blow up the government probably isn't. There have been too many Cletuses recently for online threats to be ignored.

TL;DR: Don't be a fucking dumb ass and make threats on social media. It's a good way to ruin your life.

#dispatches #original content? on this blog?#discourse related #kiri rambles #in light of recent events #anits are idiots #pro shippers #proshippers #proshipping #proshipper safe #proshippers please interact #pro shipping #antishippers #i swear to god those kids are dense #online education

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disc-and-miss · 2 years

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“let’s make proshippers feel ashamed again.”

AGAIN?? Since when have we EVER been ashamed??

Proshippers are the astounding majority in fandom. Proshippers existed before the terms proship and anti became widely used. Proshippers have been here longer than most antis have been alive. Proshippers BUILT the very fandom spaces you cretins are crawling into, still in diapers.

antis need to stop coming into fandom spaces and trying to change the rules we all have peaceably played by for DECADES because they shit and scream and cry at the thought of having to do some actual fucking critical thinking. “let’s make proshippers ashamed again,” give me a fucking break.

antis should be treated like the misinformed children they are, to teach them that shit like suibaiting and cyberstalking and harassment have actual consequences. antis who tell others to kill themself over a fucking ship need to start being ostracized. ANTIS need to feel ashamed.

there’s one group behaving dangerously on the internet, and while we have a few bad apples, by and large it is NOT us proshippers.

#anti ship #anti anti ship #antiship #antis #anti culture #proship #proshippers #antishippers #proship culture #discourse

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vergess · 2 years

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you know who else i heard is an anti (but god i dont have proof i have to look it up but i heard it from one of the pro-ship blogs back in the day) b0gl33ch supposedly! i have to look up sources (keep this private)

*I spoke to AWKA on Discord about publishign this ask; got permission.

So yeah that's true.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220823023943/https://bogleech.tumblr.com/post/656561257451765760/bogleech-there-is-a-serious-problem-with-people

Basically there's this overwhelming problem where people who get really popular on tumblr for their shitposting prowess have completely swallowed queerphobic propaganda about queerness leading to child rape.

Only because most of them are queer themselves, they have to pick a specific type of queer person to accuse of being a child rapist, and they choose people who write "obscene" fiction.

Because, in their minds, obscenity is indefensible.

And so, to them, it is reasonable and appropriate to suggest that writing a novel makes you guilty of raping a child.

This is the underlying belief set that antishippers have, but recognizing the severity of their hatred for "nasty" queers would cause them a lot of pain and guilt, so as a self defense mechanism they convince themselves that it's all okay. Their hatred of queer people is okay, because they don't hate the queerness. They just hate the specific type of fiction those nasty queers are writing.

Which is why saying those queer authors are child rapists is totally appropriate and proportionate.

God it always sounds so absurd when I write it out, but that's the problem. It IS absurd. It's almost incomprehensibly stupid, because that's what cults do to you, that's how they make you obey.

They convince you to behave in a way that is so ridiculous that it alienates you from your friends, family, and peers until the only way you know how to seek guidance, or help, or affection, or any human compulsions whatsoever, is to exagerratedly repeat cult behaviours and seek cult rewards.

And then you get to this point where people who are saying, "sex scenes in fiction are not the same as raping a child in real life," are being harassed and attacked and driven to suicide or assaulted until they are hospitalized...

And it all just sounds so fucking insanely stupid and petty and over reactive that you can't get help and you can't get out.

So yeah, anyway, Bogleech is a member of the cult that encourages assault, murder, and retributive rape against queer authors, who call themselves "antishippers."

#ask responses #all-women-kick-ass #Antis #Antishippers #Antishipping #Bogleech #Bog Incident

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unpopularfanopinion · 1 year

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So recently I came across and anti-shipper who apparently really dislikes when anti-shipping and anti-shippers are compared to conservatives and purity culture, and wrote a rant about it. They cowardly have replies and reblogs turned off but I still wanted to respond. I won’t tag them and don’t know if they’ll see this(but I hope they do)

Antiship is not the same as being a puritan/supporting purity culture. Puritans are conservative Christians who shame people for having sex before marriage and tells Queer people, polyamorus people, and people who are in open relationships that they're "sinful" and need to go to hell.

Purity culture as practiced by the American Evangelical Christians is at it’s core a patriarchal and misogynistic means of control and repression, especially of women. It teaches that sex and sexuality is an inherently sinful and harmful aspect of human nature and must be repressed. It also teaches women that THEY are responsible for the sexual misdeeds of the men around them. If they are assaulted it’s their fault because they were immodest and drove their attackers into lust. This behavior is mirrored by anti-shippers when they go after ships(that the anti-shippers do not like) and claim that the mere existence of these ships will cause people to commit sexual assault and abuse and it’s the fault of the shippers(not the abusers who are just easily mis-led babies and not responsible for their own actions I guess) This is one reason why people compare anti-shippers to puritans and purity culture. Because they share the idea that sex, and expressions of sexuality= evil/sinful/harmful and therefor needs to be controlled and police.

When proshippers call antis puritans, they're also being aphobic to the antis that identify as Asexual/Acespec, Aromantic/Arospec, and aroace/aroacespec. Being Ace/Aro is not the same as being a puritan and doesn't mean the hatred of sex/romance. Ace/Aro people don't go out of their way to harass Allos for being openly sexual. We honestly don't care what Allos do with their sex lives. Also there are Ace/Aro people who are sex favored and do have sex.

As a member of the Aro/Ace community you can fuck all the way off with this and you can just keep fucking off. You are correct that being Aro/Ace doesn’t mean being sex-repulsed and sex-negative or being a puritan. Being aro/ace is not related to being anti-ship in anyway shape or form. But if someone is trying to use their asexuality as an excuse or reason to harass shippers and tell them not to write erotica or express their sexuality, claiming that it is somehow inherently harmful or offensive the asexual person is in the wrong and are engaging in one aspect of purity culture. Specifically the part about attempting to control and police other people’s sexual expression.

Also out of curiosity are you familiar with the Aro/Ace micro-identity of aesgosexuality? Here’s some info on it as I don’t want to go into detail here https://gayety.co/what-does-aegosexual-mean Unsurprisingly quite a few aegosexuals are involved in and enjoy shipping and consuming erotic fic. Tell me what would you call it when people call members of the Aro/Ace community pedophiles and groomers because of the ships they like?

Another thing to point out that proshipper love calling antis conservatives even though conservatives are more likely to say the same things proshippers say. And conservatives will harass anyone that says something they don't agree with like proshippers do. These people need to learn not to harass people and just block anyone that doesn't agree with them. Because why call yourself anti harassment when you're actively harassing anyone that disagrees with you.

And this word salad is a very poor attempt at DARVO. Could you try to include any examples? Because I have never once seen pro-shippers say anything close to what conservatives say. But right now I can very easily point to examples of anti-shippers calling ships that have nothing to do with incest, pedophilia or grooming, as incest, pedophilia, and grooming.(ie. child-hood friends to lovers is incest, height difference between two adult characters is pedo, autistic characters are minor coded and any ship with them is pedo) If you’ve been paying attention to the news you might notice how this compares with conservatives recent insane culture wars at labeling anything LGBTQ or gender non-conforming as pedophilia, and grooming. Again we see anti-shippers mirroring conservative behavior by labeling anything they don’t like as pedophilia and a danger to children.

Also when you claim pro-shippers “harass anyone who disgrees with them” do you mean, an anti-shipper says something mean, stupid, and posibly slightly bigoted in a public space and get mocked, rebutted ad shouted down for it? Or someone an anti-shipper has targeted for harassment doesn’t fold and actually fights back? Do you not see how that is similar to when conservative bullies say something bigoted, face consequences for it, and then go whining about the “woke” mob canceling them?

Conservatives and anti-shippers both share a mindset where they center their sense of morality and ethics one themselves and their own personal feelings of disgust. If they feel disgust at something, then whether or not it’s actually harmful to anything, it’s evil and wrong and needs to be policed or eradicated. They lack the ability to just left other people just enjoy their own interests and live their own lives in a way that’s different than them

If you don’t like being hit with the puritan, purity culture or conservative label then maybe you should take some time to learn about the impacts of purity culture beyond the very superficial understanding you display here. Learn about sex-positivity and sexual fantasies. And maybe stop regurgitating various right-wing talking points and behaviors while pretending to be progresses

#antishippers #anti-shipping #purity culture #fandom purity culture #oh look #another conservative who can dish it out #but can't take it #15th #March #2023 #March 15th 2023

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themostbeautifulwhitelily · 1 year

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"Proshitters aren't welcome in *insert community*"

And.....who exactly is stopping us?? Cause no way its you lmao.

Honey, if you think telling someone to "kys" every time they do something you don't like, you're really not gonna end up very far in life, just saying 🤭

#antishippers #antis are a cult #proshippers please interact #proship safe #comship safe #comshippers please interact #antis are stupid #proshipper #comshipper #anti anti

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condomatsu · 11 months

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HOW TO BE AN ANTISHIPPER - a helpful guide

VERY LONG POST, mostly sarcastic lol, enjoy if you want to laugh a little bit ((no, I didn't have to make this a second time because tumblr sucks, ha ha, I don't know what you're talking about))

DISCLAIMER: I'm barely creating anything here. Those are real thing I saw/heard real antishippers say. Those are basically their words, not mine.

CW: repetitive use of the word "pedo/pedophilia" and such, feel-ashemed-sicko rhetoric, puritan/christian culture, fiction=reality stuff, hate on >30 years old people (I'm really sorry), pRoBlEmAtIc stuff and discourse (sort of), "kys" mentions, some LGBT+phobia (poorly masked), ableism (poorly masked), some insult/swear words in some points, trauma talking, DNI talking

In my long ship-discourse career, I've seen many antishippers not be coherent with what they belive. It is understandable, for many antishippers, to be too much distructed and fall into the Problematic(TM) category they're figthing against. Thinking "kill the pedo" all the time might be exausting and occupy all the congitive processes that someone else would use to actually watch the media they are consuming. But antishippers aren't like other people, they are morally superior, and worrying so much about morality in media is very much time and energy consuming; it's just impossible to keep a track about what to watch and enjoy and how to enjoy it and at the same time thinking.

But oh boy, isn't this guide just for you! This FREE guide¹ is for all the antishippers out there, who might fall in the nasty-proship territory without realizing it and must come out quickly, before starting to spread harmful messages, such as Don't Like; Don't Read, Ship And Let Ship, Your Kink Is Not My Kink And That's Ok, and other nasty, predatory things.

¹gimme ur monei plz, i need themm

Send this guide to whoever you think might benefit from it and, most importantly, consult it when in doubt. Being perfect all the time is difficoult after all.

This guide will help all antishippers with many things when approuching media and fandoms. This includes:

What media consume;

How to consume it;

How to interpret the characters and how to Ship(TM);

What fancontent create/consume and how;

How to create OCs for original stories and fandoms;

What to do if the media/character/ship/fancontent we liked became or happends to be Problematic.

All in this FREE antiship guide.

[I accept paypal and cash, DM me for more info].

1. WHAT MEDIA CONSUME

This is where the majority of antishippers stop at. As I mentioned before, thinking is energy consuming and actually analysing what we have in front of us might be stressful and difficoult at times.

But it is important to understand what type of content we are consuming, in order to be as morally superior as possible! As we all know "we are what we eat", therefore "we are what we watch". This means that the media we are engaging with must:

Not have any controversial opinion in it (unless those are your opinions as well);

Not have any Problematic themes involving children (17 and below), such as killing, death, sex, etc.;

Have ONLY good people behind it: no controversial opinions, no flaws, no rumors about them;

Explicitly say why a character action is good or bad and condemn bad actions and characters;

Not have sexual themes that aren't LGBT+ and NO sex or nudity scenes in any case, not even referential.

«But what about violence?» I hear you say. That's a stupid observation. Violence content doesn't turn you violent, that's a christian mom's stupid belife, not the reality. Besides, killing in movies and such is cool- DON'T RUTE FOR THE KILLER THO!

Anyways if you are a little child (17 and below), there's another point to follow for you:

The media must not have any Problematic theme in it.

This means no cool-killing for you, I'm sorry. Yes, I don't care you are 17 turning 18 in a few days, just wait those few days. And another whole year as well, just to make sure you're REALLY an adult.

Now, there are many medias, movies, comics and shows that are marked as "iredeemable media"; this means that, if you watch or, worse, enjoy those things, you are 100% lost and Problematic, just like the media itself.

Here's a little list of Problematic media to avoid. The list may vary and, unfortunatelly, it is very short. Ask other superior antishippers for advise when you're not sure whether the media you're about to consume is Problematic or safe.

The list includes but is not limited to

South park

Rick and Morty

Homestuck

Attack on titan

Genshin Impact

Harry Potter

Camp Camp

Steven Universe

Obey me!

Danganronpa

Hetalia

BTS/Kpop

Jojo

Dream SMP

Mystic messanger

DDLC

Beastars

Killing stalking

Boyfriends

Hazbin hotel

Helluva boss

Any VTuber

Stranger things

Any kid show if you are >18

Literally anything if you are >30. Where is you spouse? Children? Wtf are you doing here, old fart?? Go get a job or something.

2. HOW TO CONSUME IT

OK, now that you've found your good christian Problematic-FREE content to enjoy and like (and you have to like it, how could you not like it? It's completely unproblematic!), you have to consume it in a puritan unproblematic way as well!

As I already mentioned, you can't watch kids shows if you are 18 and above, it's not age appropriate for you². However that doesn't mean you can engage with the media in a "mature" way, especially in fandoms; just like we'll see in point n.4 as well.

²This doesn't count if you are autistic. As we all know, autistic people unfortunatelly do not have free will and are basically big babys, so you can only watch kid friendly things.

You have your good pure media in front of you, who's your favourite character?

The villain? Who has sympathetic traits and understandable reasons to do what they do and has a corrupted yet strong moral? The male main character? Who is good at heart, maybe a little cold and unable to show emotions but still brave and strong in their unique way? Or maybe the female not-main character? Who uses their beauty to attract their victims, and knows they're beautiful, skinny with wide boobs and light skin?

DISGUSTING! Are you even listening yourself!?

The villain is the villain! Do you support their action? Do you condone killing, mass shooting, you sick fuck-o!?

Are you implying that only males can be the main characters? Then why are they your favourite, hypocrite!? Also, that character theaches toxic behaviour, you are condonic toxic masculinity.

Are females good at nothing but to be beautiful? And beautiful to who!? The male gaze!? You are pushing harmful stereotypes on little girls, making them go through plastic surgery and making them live a miserable life.

Hoping you feel ashemed of yourself.

But don't worry, if you didn't already consumed any iredeemable media (look at the list at point n.1), you are still redeemable and capable to become pure again.

It is important to every christian antishippers to like and enjoy only good characters who do good actions³. We are able to elevate ourselves though what we like, as it reflects 100% what we are inside.

³If you're not able to find who is the good character and who is the evil character, go back to point n.1 and search a media that explicitly tells you that.

A good character must:

Be progressive;

Follow your same logic and morals, so that others knows how you will act or react to certain topics and situations;

Do the good thing at all costs, always;

If they do something wrong, do mental gymnastic to excuse their actions: what they do is what you do or would do in their situation;

If your character is black or/and LGBT+, then don't worry, nobody will attack them in any case.

There is a last thing to consider when talking about characters: their age. If the character in question is a little child (17 and below) you can enjoy them (if you are below 21), but not too much. It doesn't matter if they are your same age, they are children, therefore they must be protected. As we know, those characters were created by a real person, which means they are real people as well. And so it is legit to fight for their rights, protect them from disgusting people, and treat them like real people, just like you would do with anybody else. Or even more! Why calling a group "fictional characters" and the other "live breathing existing people" when they are the same thing?

More infos on how to engage with "characters" (A.K.A. people) in point n.4.

3. HOW TO INTERPRET CHARACTERS AND HOW TO SHIP(TM)

This is clearly the most important point to every antishipper. It's antiSHIP for a reason!

But, before that, we have to talk about what there is at the core of every ship: its characters. We already establish what character you can enjoy, but how can you enjoy them?

Your unconditionally-favourite character might be progressive (example: a female main character, who is explicitly femminist and independent and strong and an ally, etc.), but might also not be progressive enough.

Everyone has their headcanons and there's nothing wrong with it and wanting to see yourself in said character. Afterall, there's never enough queer/black/fat representation out there (/srs).

So you make you favourite character black, chubby, disable, trans and bisexual⁴! Good job! Unfortunatelly, that is not the canon view of said character, but your view is progressive! This means that everybody has to interpret them as you do. If they don't, they are racist, fatphobic, ableist, homotrasphobic and probably a pedophile too, which is unacceptable!

⁴Rule for bi/pan/ace characters: they can't date the opposite gender, or they might "faking it".

What do good fuckers antishippers do when somebody clearly un-progressive refuse to accept clearly superior headcanons?

Here's the list of what-to-do, point by point:

Ask gently to redraw/write the content about said character (example: "excuse me, but in this non-canon artwork of Terezi Pyrope she's fat, draw her as such, thank you").

If they ignore you or rufuse to do as you say, accuse them of what they really are in a polite way (example: "All I'm saying is that it is very fatphobic of you interpret her as differently as the majority of us all, that's all").

Further reistance? Then be even more honest with them! (example: "I mean, you are already drawing a 13-years-old girl, that's kinda predatory, don't you think? At least draw her right, which is how I interpret her").

Politness is the key, but those sick-os aren't really entitled of that, so you may just tell them to kill themselves and call it the day!

With all of that being said, now we can finally go to the SHIP section! What characters I can ship, how can I ship them, etc.

The game is very, very simple, just answer this quick questions:

Are this characters both over 18? >YES (go to 3), >NO (go to 2), >NOT SURE (go to 19)

Are they both under 18? >YES (go to 4), >NO (go to 21)

Are you above 18? >YES (go to 5), >NO (go to 22)

Are you under 18? >YES (go to 5), >NO (go to 21)

Is there some age gap between them? >YES (go to 21), >NO (go to 6)

Are they both black? >YES (go to 9), >NO (go to 7)

Is one of them black? >YES (go to 8), >NO (go to 9)

Are you black? >YES (go to 9), >NO (go to 23)

Are they both boys/men? >YES (go to 10), >NO (go to 11)

Are you a gay/mlm boy/man? >YES (go to 14), >NO (go to 24)

Are they both girls/women? >YES (go to 12), >NO (go to 13)

Are you a lesbian/wlw girl/woman? >YES (go to 14), >NO (go to 24)

Are they a girl/woman and a boy/man? >YES (go to 25), >NO (go to 14)

Do they work together? >YES (go to 15), >NO (go to 16)

Is one a grade superior to the other? >YES (go to 27), >NO (go to 17)

Are they both superheroes/good people? >YES (go to 19), >NO (go to 17)

Are they both villains/bad people? >YES (go to 27), >NO (go to 18)

Is one of them a superhero/good person and the other is a villain/bad person? >YES (go to 27), >NO (go to 29)

Are they both aliens/supernatural creatures? >YES (go to 28), >NO (go to 20)

Is one of them an alien/supernatual creature? >YES (go to 28), >NO (go to 29)

YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE

YOU ARE BEING GROOMED

YOU ARE RACIST

YOU ARE FETISHIZING LGBT+ PEOPLE

YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC

YOU ARE A RAPIST

YOU CONDONE TOXIC RELATIONSHIPS

YOU ARE A ZOOPHILE

You are pure

This little game is very helpful and quick to make. However I encourage to reach a superior antishipper when in doubt, especially if your ship-case isn't here.

Remember that only the couples you will like to see in real life or the people you would like to date personally in real life are allowed. If you are an antishippers and aromantic, I'm sorry, but you can't participate in ship culture, unless you're faking being aromantic, which will make you a bad person.

4. WHAT FANCONTENT CREATE/CONSUME AND HOW

Congrats! You have your Problematic-free ship in you Problematic-free media! You obviously want to create or consume content of it, especially if the ship isn't canon. Having social medias might help, but also, before doing anything, you have to cure you space online.

Blocking, muting, filtering content and/or people you don't like? Pft, NO, that's what nasty proshippers always tells to do, you don't want to do what they say, ever. What you have to do is to make a DNI banner, post or carrd which tells everything that there's to know about you and what kind of people you don't want near you.

Nazis, pedos, TERFs, etc. will surely be polite enough to listen to your little mind and respect your boundaries. Oh, and also they won't surely use the personal infos you've provided them to harm you in any way or capacity. Big move, really. And, of course, put every online label you heard of without really searching them! That's important. What's a proshipper? Well, my mate ilovekarensfeetinaplatonicway-101, who is totally not a real predator, told me it means pedo-shipping, therefore it is true and disgusting, so might tell "kys" to all of them.

After that, you start to post the content of you favourite character/ship. As I mentioned in point n.2, you can't make just any type of content.

Do you enjoy gore, extreme violence and angst? Meh, you are kinda borderline. Maybe don't post too much of it, or, even better, keep it private. There are children here. Yes, even in your adult-fandom and your adult-only-account and your barriers to filter your content away from children's eyes, some of them might still see it. It's just better if that content do not exists at all.

Do you want to make NSFW content of your favourite adult character/ship? No, big no no. That's nasty. Maybe some fanfic that ALUDE to what they might do in their "free time" or a suggestive art, but that's already too much! Sex is nasty and disgusting and kinks makes you a pervert and a pedo. Do you have a foot fetish? Pedo. Do you have a piss kink? Pedo. How? Because sex and sexuality is nasty and therefore predatory.

Also, making your characters explore their sexuality through sex/sexual behaviour is fetishizing LGBT+ people, stop that.

You MIGHT enjoy some NSFW content if you PROVE to be above 18 but BELOW 30. As we all know, teenagers are pure little souls who do not know about sex and shoul not engage in any dirty content; while after 30 you should already have kids and a job, so why are you in "fandoms" and enjoying your sexual life? You're already done, go do your housechores or something. Watch soapoperas.

The content you make or consume must be pure, which means, as said in point n.1, must not contain any Problematic themes or elements.

5. HOW TO CREATE OCs FOR ORIGINAL STORIES AND FANDOMS

This point talks about OOCs too, so you might want to just interpret a canon character differently instead of creating a whole new other character.

For the stories you create (original and fanfictions), just follow the previous points. Going further, however, there's much more to say.

Let's say you project yourself onto this very cool, good, progressive character, let's call them Cutie. You like Cutie a lot and want to make content of them. You make SFW fanarts, SFW fanficts and so on.

Then, something bad happends in your life, and you get attached to Cutie like it was you comfy teddy bear. You are still processing what happend or what is happening to you and don't feel anybody enough near to talk to them or to get help from them. You then use Cutie as a way to help you through what you've passed/passing.

Don't worry, on fandoms you will find plenty of people ready to help you! If you are coping the right way, of course.

You might want to avoid completely anything correlated to your expirience; making only cute, fluffy content with Cutie, and that's valid (/srs).

But some depravate might want to explore their experience to overcome it, making Cutie pass what they pass and that's just disgusting. You want to make other people suffer? Yeah, that's a fictional character, but we already established they are real people! What you do to them is what you would do to your children. Deplorable.

If you are type 1, then you're fine, sorry for your expirience. If you are type 2, at least feel sorry for what you are now and cope in private. Doing what you do is just making yourself traumatize again at best, making you even worse at worst. No, your therapist isn't right. No therapist will encourage such behaviour.

Just treat your characters like real people and everything will be fine.

6. WHAT TO DO IF THE MEDIA/CHARACTER/SHIP/FANCONTENT WE LIKED BECAME OR HAPPENDS TO BE PROBLEMATIC

You are at the last point of the guide! Good job, antishipper, you did great!

Even doing great tho doesn't preclude some accidents in the way.

You may like a content who happends to have been made by a horrible person, or you favourite character/ship might became toxic over time or, even worse, might always have been Problematic and you didn't know (example: they have TWO years gap).

In this case, don't worry, here's how you do in every situation:

The person behind [insert content/media here] is Problematic: don't engage with the media/content ever again and insult/attack whoever does it.

Favourite character became Problematic: if they can still be saved, just excuse they actions, or just ignore that and go on with your life (remember to attack whoever does the same with other characters tho).

Favourite ship became Problematic: stop shipping them or embrace the rightful hate you'll get.

Favourite ship is considered Problematic: shit some proship-rhetoric then act like that doesn't count for every ship and embrace the hate you'll get.

If you don't like the idea to follow precisive rules and conditions in fictional worlds that doesn't affect real life just for not getting hate, harassment or death threats by other people; living in costant fear of what you might enjoy next and care about what other people do or enjoy (in fictional world) all the time and not having the freedom to write/draw whatever you want... Just became a proshipper, idk, you failed this guide, congratulation.

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