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sals-sonic · 3 days
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“This ship propagates abuse so I'll harass you until you stop shipping it!”
1. No, I will not stop shipping it.
2. Even if I did, abuse would still exist. Just look at what antis do despite them consuming only the "right" media.
3. Fuck you and your hypocritical ass. Incredible how antis are blind to their own faults to the point they don't realize that they are the ones normalizing bullying over literal fiction.
4. Your discomfort isn't my problem. If it's tagged, you can block the content out. If it isn't, then block the user. You can't expect everyone to conform to your triggers, especially if you don't respect anyone else's to begin with. Also, you are a literal stranger coming into my house. I don't know you or owe you anything. Gtfo.
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talonsin · 2 days
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oh they're brothers? and they have a complicated and charged relationship? they're brocons now sorry I don't make the rules
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babyitsgayoutside · 2 days
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Some antis on instagram found out my brother passed away…
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Because this is okay to tell someone but writing/reading fanfic you think is a little “weird” is the worst offense in the fucking world. Okay got it.
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pr-incey · 1 day
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For a while—after being exposed to the antiship movement, because goodness knows I didn't care about this when I was younger—I wondered *why* fiction and reality were so different in my head. Why I could happily see things depicted in fiction that would make me sick to my stomach or upset me to tears just from thinking of it happening in real life. I couldn't come up with a reason for this for a while, which caused me distressed and made me worried that I might secretly be a terrible person after all.
But I've done some thinking and I've figured it out. Or, rather, I've returned to the mindset that came so easy to me in the past and probably did to a lot of people before the well was poisoned.
When I see a fictional character, I don't see a person. I don't see a person like *me*, anyway. I see a person within that piece of fiction's universe; a plane of existence that is wholly different from my own. Lines and colour, words on a page, virtual drawings being played sequentially at a speed that simulates movement. Sure, the written passage, 'He had eyes, ears and a mouth' is a representation of what *I* am, and what other people around me are, but it is fundamentally a plane of existence that is *alien* to me.
An alien is something that is decidedly not human. I feel empathy for other humans because I can relate to them. I have no desire to hurt them because I either know what it is like to be hurt in that way, or I can imagine what it would be like. I know the harm it would do to them, which illicits a reaction of disgust and apprehension in me. 'That's terrible,' I think, which simply kills any desire to cause any harm to a real person or do any disgusting actions.
This is why predators are such terrible people. They are fully aware of the harm their actions will cause and then go ahead with them anyway.
But with a fictional character, it's different in these ways:
1. First of all, we have to remember that they AREN'T human and so whatever I feel towards them cannot accurately mirror whatever I feel towards real flesh and blood individuals. They're projections of humanity from OTHER people in whatever medium they choose, but fictional characters are—and I cannot stress this enough—NOT HUMAN. If I pull off the head of a Barbie doll, does that mean I have the desire to behead someone in real life? Does it mean that I MUST have the urge to behead someone in real life, because a barbie doll is a 'representation' of a person? Your answer, I'm hoping, is no. Because Barbie is not human.
2. And because fictional characters are not human, I don't have empathy for them. Not REAL empathy, anyway, the type that stops the desire to cause harm. When I 'violate' a fictional character, it illicits at most only superficial disgust because I know that character will not live with the lasting consequences of my actions. They're a projection, a facsimile.
So that might bring you to another question, 'Even if they're not real, why would you WANT to do that to them, anyway?'
That I can't answer. The human brain is weird. Sometimes, people have dark urges. If a kid tosses their Barbie onto the ground and seems to take pleasure in it falling, can that accurately say they want to push a real person onto the ground? If someone seems to enjoy a violent video game like GTA where they can run people over and shoot them to their heart's content, is that a surefire way to know that they want to do those things to real people? I wouldn't say it is. Would you?
The final thing to remember is that it's not completely black and white. A serial killer might have been 'inspired' by a violent horror story, whereas the actual author of that story is a nice, well-adjusted individual. People with the desire to hurt actual humans might make do with projections, but it does not change the fact that they actually want to HARM people. The fiction didn't make them want to do that. They already did, and probably would have even if they didn't discover said fiction. And horrible people CAN make their own 'projections'.
Generally though I believe it is obvious when someone is just playing with dolls, and when someone is exhibiting an actual desire to hurt somebody.
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Ashley breaking-down when they were younger and begging Andrew, "Please don't leave me!" To which Andrew had to comfort her, leading to the first time that they ever kissed each other ❤️
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huntinglove · 12 hours
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"They died because God said they must"
[Please click or tap for better quality! RBs are always appreciated!]
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ver-slxt · 3 days
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yeah, your toxic yaoi ship is cool…
BUT
have you shipped the OG?
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they fuck
HARD
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pro-sipper · 3 months
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"i want more media with zero drama, no tension, and zero problematic characters and i am not joking"
Great! Here are my recommendations:
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drinksglue · 3 months
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For those who might be confused, "if a work of fiction makes you uncomfortable or upset, stop engaging with it and continue curating your viewing experience" still applies even if said work is made by someone you hate.
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proudproship · 4 months
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I've seen a surge of antis calling themselves punk/alt, and I just wanna make this clear:
Book-burning conservatives are not punk, sorry... :/
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runs-red · 3 months
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Another big reason it's so hard to take anti-fiction arguments seriously is because I have reading comprehension, can read critically, and can enjoy fiction without having it radically change me.
I've never read any fiction with dark themes, no matter how sexualized, glorified, or whatever, that even began to make me think about condoning or supporting it in real life.
It's to the point where I'm genuinely confused by what point anti-fiction people are trying to make. Do they think that people are so brainless that they just support everything they read? of that somehow, if you read it enough, it just washes away all of your morals and core beliefs?
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vivi-ships · 3 months
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Do y'all remember when this was a normal thing to see all over the place? Because I do. I remember seeing and posting this image everywhere when I was like 12-15.
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devilith · 4 months
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hey do you guys remember when like. brother/brother and sister/sister and brother/sister ships werent just normal, they were really common? parent/child ships werent as widespread as sibling ships but you still saw both of them a lot. like you used to see incest ships all the fucking time.
like you couldnt go five minutes on this hellsite without scrolling past wincest or thorki or any number of the dozens of popular hp incest ships. do people not remember the onecest takeover? the onecest dynasty? what about elsanna? what about all the fontcest that came out of the undertale fandom? mha fans loved shipping the entire todoroki family together. what about game of thrones just in general? the hitachiin twincest? literally everyone from osomatsu-san? usuk and all the other incest ships from hetalia? fucking HOMESTUCK?
it used to be that you couldnt throw a rock in ANY fandom without hitting a whole bunch of super popular incest ships. it was everywhere. it was NORMAL. because people didnt care about what anyone else liked in fiction, because everyone knew the difference between fantasy and reality. and its not like incest hasnt been one of the most popular porn categories all over the world for years.
now though, with the huge resurgence of evangelical puritanism in western fandom and the massive influx of alt-right christofascist antishippers, nothing is allowed to just be fiction any more. braindead little conservative assholes and bigots will scream and shit themselves over people shipping the elric brothers because fandom isnt allowed to be fun any more. antis will see someone talking about sebaciel and start spewing their disgusting rhetoric at everyone and being TERFS and wannabe cops until nobody wants to participate in fandom any more.
fandoms are dying and its antis fault
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xx-slug-xx · 7 months
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Ao3 authors, please learn to not insult people and be “morally superior” in the tags
Instead of tagging “noncon is gross” or “not noncon because that’s problematic”, for example, just put “enthusiastic consent” or “consensual sex” in the tags. It makes things a whole lot easier for people to filter and know what’s going on.
I really don’t care that you think noncon fics are bad or whatever, I (and many others) will be more likely to read your fic about two boys who are deeply in love if you aren’t an ass about your morals in fiction :/
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ver-slxt · 3 days
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*eye roll*
its really funny to me that this account is very widely anti-proship (or pro-shit they call it), but says,
‘dont harass anyone that arent causing any real world harm!!’
followed by an immediate,
‘THEYRE* losers convinced being disgusting is okay!!’
classic anti, hypocritical + literally so contradictory its insane. how about, not making your ENTIRE account focused on what MY community does that you claim you have no interest/it disgusts you sOOO much; yet your entire account is literally all about the community you so despise.. ironic.
(ps, they have an anti-proship ciel flag on their blog, captioned ‘fuck sebaciel’..)
new people to the community! if you are unsure if someone is an anti or a safe space, please look at tags, if they mix ‘proship/proshit’ or even ‘comship/comshit’ (they can have both words in the tags) its just best to avoid.. even if they dont have specific tags, but the post is suspicious/weird just block to be sure.. be safe!!
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kiwisandpearls · 5 months
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“This fiction could be used to groom minors!”
I hate to break this to you but literally any type of fiction can be used to groom minors. Even “unproblematic” fiction.
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