#anti stucky fans

[barneswilsonrogers]

yall see what we, sambuckies, have to deal with? like we cant even joke anymore

#these ppl need a group therapy #anti stucky #anti stucky fans

[randomfandombullshiz]

"Stucky shippers who say shit like this" go to Hell challenge

#sam wilson deserves better #anti stucky fans #sam wilson #bucky barnes #steve rogers

[kittenfangirl20]

I don’t get why some Stucky fans act as if Steve barely knew Peggy because we didn’t see every interaction on screen. I felt as if the way they interacted pointed to the fact that they knew each other quite well. I am not saying that this means that she was a childhood friend with Steve like Bucky was, but I don’t think that the only time that they spent time around each other was when we saw them together on screen.

#mcu #steggy #steve rogers #peggy carter #margaret carter #not anti stucky #more like anti stucky fans who diminish the importance of peggy #i ship both steggy and stucky

[amarriageoftrueminds]

*points originally in a tag-dump under another post about* Bucky's goodness + Steve's belief in him 

+ the fact that the superserum worked on Bucky is empirical proof of his goodness:

+ this is also why the serum worked on Isaiah Bradley. + imagine if Isaiah had been made the Winter Soldier instead

Seriously it's a pretty eye-opening thought exercise to put any other character in Bucky's place and see just how poorly he's treated.

Do people really think Steve would hear about a man who had the same magic ‘only works on good people’ juice as him, tortured and enslaved by Hydra for decades… and then just NOT help him?

imagine if you had Sam saying 'Steve this 'Isaiah' guy he's not someone you save he's someone you stop.'

Nat saying 'Steve I know this matters to you but let the police handle Isaiah someone will arrest you if you interfere, it will inconvenience us all.' (LOL Nat have you met Steve who wrote this)

Sam agreeing, 'maybe Nat's right maybe we shouldn't bother helping Isaiah against the police in case they shoot at us,' and dismissing the fact that Isaiah could do good: ‘1945, maybe.’ 

When Isaiah was the guy that pulled Steve out of the river?

(And meanwhile the CIA have given police, that Nat and Sam are telling Steve not to interfere with, orders to shoot Isaiah dead on sight? quelle surprise)

Steve would still be arguing that it should be him to bring Isaiah in, since he's least likely to die trying. 

He would still have put taking down the Insight helicarriers first, and been reluctant (but willing) to dislocate his arm for that very important reason. 

He would still have lifted up the steel beam pinning Isaiah down

(and probably still tried to talk him out of his mind-control, even if he failed.)

imagine if everyone (Sam, Nat, Steve, Sharon, etc.) saw Isaiah -- when mind-controlled -- suddenly demonstrating a drastically different personality

and imagine if Steve and Sam saw Isaiah waking up with amnesia.. then proving his memory of his good, non-WS personality... but Sam was still rude/hostile to Isaiah anyway, insisting he and Steve should not be ‘cool' with him (then telling Isaiah he hates him). 

Tony saying 'I don’t care that Isaiah was mind-controlled he killed my mom imma murder him just to spite you for not trusting me not to murder people.'

imagine if you had the therapist telling Isaiah he needs to be monitored by the state to prove he’s not giving into his innate violence, giving him rules to follow like a child, (and he’s pardoned, not exonerated, meaning he had to admit to crimes he wasn’t responsible for in order to get a modicum of freedom) and that it’s bullshit to suggest Isaiah just wants some peace

Ayo telling Isaiah 'you are free' 😌 as he finally escapes his bondage, watching him cry with relief, then: ‘SIKE! we put a booby-trap in ur limb the trust was a lie.’

Sam cracking jokes about Isaiah's trauma, dehumanizing him as a killing machine 

taking part in a plot where Isaiah has to pretend to be WS, be sold to another human being, and have rape jokes cracked about him, 

but then still being like 'listen Isaiah if you really want to apologise f̶o̶r̶ ̶b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶l̶a̶v̶e̶  you should just do the work.' 😔

*event horizon voice* DO YOU SEE? DO YOU SEE?? 😬

#long post #tfatws critical #antisambucky #antitfatws #antitony #bucky meta #bucky's serum meta #mcu meta #dat's me #gunna tag this as anti-[those things] #cuz I don't imagine eg. sambucca fans wanna see this on their dash... 🤐 #meta #steve meta #stucky meta #steve rogers #bucky barnes #stucky #the writing of sam and bucky #f/ws writers room: LOL dehumanizing the disabled is HILARIOUS! #why would we write a black-lead show empathising w/ a former slave who gets profiled by the police and molested by white women?? 🤔 #a mystery for the ages #also I have been recced The Truth limited run of cap comics which feat isaiah... #tho warning: the differences between it + fatws may cause rage palpitations #yet each man queues the thing he loves

[sarahowritesostucky]

A response to "Milking" : Isn't she sweet?

🥰A lovely series of comments I received from a kindhearted and intellectually mature fan.

#My lovely fans #antis #illiberal antis #protect tumblr #tumblr tos #online abuse #online bullying #online harassment #trolls ate my blog #trolls #mcu #stucky #learn the difference

[imperialstark]

Honestly, the st*cky/Team Cap, side of the MCU fandom are SUCH yt Americans filled with American exceptionalism (that they’ve deluded themselves is somehow moral and progressive) I can see them doing a jan 6 if they had like, any ability to do anything but be annoying

(stuck as a ship was like the prototypical 100% were u queerbaited or did you just ship it? question they have never asked themselves lol. At least most other MCU ships were based on actual chemistry not a story that ended up being about Steve wanting to save the last piece of his old life who he then immediately abandoned to actually go return to said old life, didn’t even take bcuk just noped out of there, so much for devotion lololol turns out Steve did it all for mental a pathological inability to let go and move on it was never even bout buck as like a person it was about Steve’s untreated PTSD lol)

((I’m being mean because stickies are SUCH assholes, it would be an ok ship but fuuucccckkkkk they suck);

no LITERALLY

ship and let ship but don't be an asshole about it

also i have Thoughts about the way bucky was written especially in relation to steve but that's another post and i do not feel like kicking the hornet's nest

#i remember how they treated stony/tony fans during the civil war era and it was ugly #i was there gandalf!! #gabi talks #i know it's not all stuckies #but the annoying ones are so goddamn LOUD #anti st*cky i guess

[stfin]

Just found out the novel I’m reading started it’s life as gay MCU fan fiction and I do not have the words to express how much this has thrown me.

#I’m not anti-fan fiction it’s just an odd thing to realize halfway through a book #now I’m just going through every character and trying to figure out which character they’re supposed to be #the scottish boy #alex de campi #stucky

[buckymilf]

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#i love getting blocked by blogs that i didn't even knew the existence of jshsjshs #like thanks for saving my time #probably a peggy fan... or worse #an anti stucky #yikesss

[bittwitchy]

cw anti st*ggy and st*cky joke:

its funny how much i hate st*ggy considering i also dont like st*cky romantically

#but funnily enough i AM a steve/sam and b*cky/sam girl #but thats the one poly i wont approve of #for me u do u friends #how many tags do i have to do before it no longer shows up in tags brw #bc the fandoms for both of those ships are vile #esp when u admit to preferring sam w both of them they just get plain r*cist sometimes #i know its 20 to stay out of the tags but #will 20 also stop the flaggings from picking it up bc i dont wanna do that either #i wanna make sure your tag blocks work yknow #wtf even is sam and b/uckys pairing name #like im a b/uckyn/at aka w/interwi/dow girlie as well and they have both #is it like… w/interfa/lcon???? #why is b/uckys name first it should be sams #honestly that fandom is wild if you talk abt ships nnur ships arent the popular ones like #i woll dully admit i ship wild stuff too #not rly wild if m*rv*l cared enough to actually build the rels peoperly but like #as a comic reader im a st*ron fan and im forever mad at how they #royally fucked up sh/arons story just bc they wanted to fuck w h/ayley a/twell a known woman hater posing as a f/eminist #i do like st*ny but only when done right bc lbr… they couldnt even do theirn #friendship right enough to make cw actually impactful #and i dont understand why ‘literally was earning almost a billion per movie at the time even before they all were’ m*rv*l #chose to fuck w what cap 3 was to ‘compete w b/atman v s/uperman’ like #they had zero to worry abt ppl wont even pay attention to zacks films and pick apart anything to hate they can #ppl hate subtle storytelling which is how he storytells he hates shoving the plot in your face he wants you to overthink it #and they were launching the universe then like it was NEVER going to be a competition they just freaked tf out for no reason #losers #ima tag them now hopefully i dont end up int he tags if u have those antis blacklisted lmk if it works #anti steggy #anti stucky

[hellerism]

stucky is also a thousand times more honorable than blackbonnet bc ofmd fans are the type to be like this show is so incredibly important for queer history if you don’t vote for them that’s queer infighting you’re letting the homophobes win and that’s why anti gay legislation is on an uptick. meanwhile stucky fans are just like hey everyone just posted chapter 17 of my stucky omegaverse fic ☺️ which is so much less annoying

#KILL THE PIRATES FOR THE CRIME OF BEING ANNOYING

[rip1009]

Just to have my two cents in the eternal debate, these are not the faces of people who were cheering and leering, grinning and rubbing hands oh so happy to get a turn and fuck the Asset.

These are the faces of two men who know they are on thin ice more than ever and that thin ice meaning that they are expandable, they will be used and abused and they do not get to have a say.

Jack is NOT grinning, sneering, cackling on the inside.

And we know he official point of view regarding Brock from Frank - see link

(*cause I read, heard and been on the fridge of all the debates regarding this particular scene. Yes, they are not vanilla heroes. Guess what, no one in the MCU is or was. Grey characters make the stories, MCU robbed us of many characters whose storylines could have been expanded and followed, redemption arcs or just riding into the sunset including the Hydra Husbands so were, are and always be a as fierce and devoted to each other as Stucky)

Also this is a big hug to the Hydra Husbands fans who were bullied, attacked, doxxed, forced to quit the fandom or leave various platforms after being chased by abusive antis, haters and many of the *wonderful, diverse those out there*

MCU decided to ignore the Hydra Husbands even thought Callan Mulvey did a fantastic role with a couple of scenes of a few second and Frank basically gave us a Brock who shows how much of a damn he gave (and still gives) to this character. Fans, the amazing Hydra Husbands who still endure after all these years, kept them alive and will continue to do so.

This is to my few, my happy few, my band of brothers and sisters who wrote, write and will continue to write the most ambitious, amazing, epic Hydra Husbands stories.

Maybe we are not as many as we were but fandoms rise, fall and rise again and new generations will always discover the treasure throve of epic works out there.

Happy Anniversary, Hydra Husbands!

As far as I am concerned, Brock and Jack have retired to a small villa in Campania (worry not, that villa is stocked with weapons and we pity the fool who tries to fuck with their serenity) but new adventures always await ♥

#hydra husbands #jack rollins #brock rumlow #my two cents

[barneswilsonrogers]

how can u claimed ‘sam is my favorite character’ but then proceed to make posts about sam feeling left out out of steve and bucky’s relationship? i dont understand how sam feeling sad and upset is FUNNY TO YOU? especially if u said ‘he is ur favorite character’?

anyway you did this way too many times thats why im sick of it and im calling u out. i dont care if u are hurt or upset because you are in fact WRONG and someone has to called u out. saying i need to ‘seek therapy’ wont stop u from being wrong because you are WRONG.

i dont care about being ‘exposed’ at least now u know how we, sam’s true fans, feel when you ‘joke’ about him. when you laughed at his expense. when you purposefully created a hc in your head about sam feeling upset and left out but then u claimed ‘u love him’. its all bullshit. we all know why u treat him like that, especially when u worship the ground white characters walk on.

if u truly love sam, u’ll hate this blog as much as i do

@incorrectquotesmcu @stephanieromanoff

#sam wilson #incorrectquotesmcu #stephanieromanoff #anyone who truly love sam should never interact with these 2 blogs #stucky #anti stucky fans #anti stucky

[olderthannetfic]

I feel like I keep seeing antis/anti-leaning people claim that proshippers are against discussions of racism in fandom. Obviously there is the basic bad faith interpretation (deliberate slander), which I'm not inherently against, but do you have any idea if there's a potential good faith interpretation of why they think this? Is there a specific fandom where the proshippers are actually yelling at the antiracists?

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I get this question all the time, which is ironic since I tend to be public enemy #1 for the "AO3 is racist" crowd. (Or maybe they've moved on by now. I don't really keep up with them.)

No, there is no good faith interpretation. It's recycled Star Wars wank from 2015, SamSteve vs. Stucky wank from the same period, etc. etc.

The "anti-racists" in question include a lot of big names who should know better. Their central arguments boil down to:

The demographics of which characters get shipped and/or written about on AO3 are racist.

A lot of individual fics about characters of color on AO3 are racist.

AO3's refusal to "listen" and then censor is racist.

Fans of color "need" to be able to speak up about fic that is racist... in that fic's comments.

It's all ass-backwards because it focuses on the needs of the reader to find the content they want, which is content creator influencer hell, not the writer-focused AO3 approach.

The whole point of AO3-style fandom is that everyone has access to posting, and you can write what you want. Want more fics about your fave? Write them.

There are individual AO3 fics I find racist, but the vast majority of the discourse around the site focuses on things like writers who ship the black dude but use him as a prop boyfriend and not the single perfect tear woobie who's obviously their favorite. Is the pattern racist? Well, yeah, but you won't solve it by trying to restrict those fics. And the extreme form of this turns into a cliched top/bottom shipwar, which just makes everyone involved look like a moron.

Teaching people how to write their tops with personalities is far more likely to make the collective fic in a fandom less racist than demanding that they switch which pairing dynamic they're into. Making more original media where the man of color is the woobie in the first place would also help.

Plenty of the discourse is crying that such-and-such a m/m ship is super popular on AO3, temple of m/m, while gen about characters of color or some particular het ship with a nonwhite character is less popular. "Why don't you ship het instead of m/m" is a gigantic red flag for people who refuse to understand libido or accept it as a valid reason for anything.

A lot of the discourse is anti-kink despite lying about this fact. "Boo hoo hoo, I for sure psychically know who's a racist white person and who's a kinky black person whose id doesn't match up with mine!" etc.

There's also a lot of "This fic is race kink!" nonsense thrown around about any fic where a man of color has a big dick, as though penis size by itself is the racist cliche often summed up as "big black cock" and as though all ethnicities and nationalities are subject to identical stereotypes. This garbage gets uncritically repeated by newly-minted "woke" people falling over themselves to correct hundreds of years of injustice by yelling at others for a couple of days on twitter.

This is where the "you're calling me an anti to silence me" garbage comes from. Sound like a kink-hater, get treated as one.

AO3 does have bullying problems by now, and the various blocking and muting features were overdue. They are now being implemented, which is great. Anyone with half a brain cell should see that these are key anti-racist measures so that people can block idiots who write fic they hate or who leave shitty comments...

But a certain number of jackasses complain even about that because it will ~silence fans of color~ who need to go tell someone they're a racist in their fic comments.

These dumbass arguments have been circulating for years at this point, so the talking points have boiled down to catch phrases.

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Damn right I'm against "discussion" when it means telling everyone that only white people would like nasty kink.

When the whiny "plz censor AO3" crowd stops sounding exactly like that asshole who used "freaks of color" in a past discussion about these kinds of things and when they're ready to discuss how to write extreme kink about their faves non-racistly without reducing the kinkiness, then I will be ready to listen to their arguments.

But they have none other than "write the kind of fic I like!"

[ircn-mvn]

2023; new tumblr, 100% about what I like. Pro Trigger Warnings and Proper Tagging. Pro Shipper. Anti-Purity Culture.

I'm looking for users to follow so if you like any of this ships, feel free to notice me: obikin, spirk, thorki, jonsa, stucky, bellarke, regan, destiel, rhodestead, dinluke, sasunaru, drarry, tomarry, fremione, marcsteven, chouse...

If you have an open mind and don't judge fellow fans for their FICTIONAL tastes and arts, you're welcome as well!

#obikin #spirk #thorki #jonsa #marcsteven #stucky #bellarke #regan #destiel #rhodestead #dinluke #sasunaru #drarry #tomarry #fremione #chouse #and more

[gay-jewish-bucky]

the person who has been harassing steve fans, bucky fans, tony antis and spaming the stucky tags while calling for violence against people who support the ship is back with a new blog

you know the what to do, block them and report their harassment, do not engage, do not send hate

#personcole #stucky

[rynfinity]

oh. that's not okay. I've seen some Thorkis attacking people because they prefer bottom Thor in their pairing. There are antis out there who harass unceremoniously but seeing this within the fandom because someone else doesn't follow your hc is scary tbh. There is someone on twitter who is unnecessarily trying to create a problem in the fandom saying bottom Thor art/fics should not be posted under 'thorki' tag, those shippers should use some other tag. Other fandoms might do that but this has never been a problem in thorki fandom. Thorki is an umbrella term like stucky and Stony and why should one half of the fandom stop using it because they don't want to see bottom Thor content. Tagging doesn't destroy a fandom, it is some people who try to control others because they think they are superior bc of their sexual position preference and can suppress minorities who don't follow their headcanon.

This fandom should behave better. It is my comfort ship and I hate to see it ruined for such trivialities.

Hi, nonny. Yeah, I saw a little bit of that flying around a few days ago. It’s too bad people can’t enjoy what they enjoy without feeling the need to police what other fans are liking.

Sorry it’s making things miserable!