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wenellyb · 6 months
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel that people who say stuff like this are straight up lying? Or is there some important piece of information I'm missing?
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It's unbelievable to me that some people would like that non-canon ships like Stucky or any other non-canon ships paved the way for representation in modern media. Unbelievable.
Destiel, maybe, because of how big the fandom is/was but even Supernatural and even Destiel started out small and got popular because of the fandom and the ship(s).
I feel like people who saying they started shipping non-canon couples because their wasn't any LGBT representation in the media at the time aren't being genuine. I say that because before joining Tumblr, I didn't even know shipping non-canon couples was a thing (I had heard of Destiel, but it was more of a concept to me, even though I unironically watched SPN).
I feel that was they mean is that there wasn't any representation in popular shows or maybe they mean they weren't enough main characters. But otherwise there was!!!
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These are just the one I can think of on the top of my head, but there are much more and there is en more if you go outside of the US. And these are just the shows.
If we add the movies... well!!!
You want romance with a Happy Ending?
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You want Murder Mystery?
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You want Drama?
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There are so many many more and, yes these weren't blockbusters but it's not "no représentation and Stucky and Destiel were the only options"
Grey's Anatomy started out at the exact same time as Supernatural and now has over a dozen canon LGBT characters and half of them are/were main characters (Callie, Arizona, Amelia, Teddy, Yasuda, Helm)
When I joined Tumblr, I never even for a minute thought shipping was about representation or activism because there were so many shows and movies I knew but they were barely talked about on here.
Not criticizing ships by any means but I feel like people are trying to pretend that shipping is something it isn't.
In my humble opinion, non-canon ships were never about representation. Shipping was just shipping
I wasn't on Tumblr at the time, but I was on Youtube (old school) and to me, the people who were doing edits of the canon ships, in shows and movies were the real heroes.
Some people might say : "but those characters are side characters or weren't in major blockbusters/popular shows".
But fandoms could have decided to make them more popular if they wanted. Because believe it or not, Supernatural was a niche show at the beginning and I don't think it would have been as popular or gotten as many seasons without the shippers. They chose to make the non-canon couple (at the time) popular. So the fans could have done the same with shows that have canon LGBT characters But they didn't, they focused on non-canon couples.
I have no problem with shipping non-canon couples at all, I do it too, but I'm really surprised by people who want to make it seem like it's some kind of activism... It's not.
And I know there wasn't enough representation that's true, but why focus your energy on shows with absolutely no canon LGBT characters and pretend it's activism??
You guys could have had Noah's arc or Hit the Floor renewed and you focused your energy on Marvel characters.
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And some people will say they ship Destiel anyway because they want fantasy and paranormal... Well does nobody remember Dante's Cove? Was it a fever dream😂? I admit the writing was bad, but have you seen the writing in Supernatural (I say this as a SPN fan)???
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And I know some people will say they ship Marvel characters because they have a bigger audience and there were no canon Queer characters in blockbusters, but I feel like that a lie too because when there were indeed Queer characters in those blockbusters, they were ignored as well. Like in the Eternals.
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Fandoms can be so powerful when they want to...they can make or break a movie, so acting like the focus on non canon couples was the only option surprises me.
Shipping is just about shipping. It's a hobby.
Stucky or any non-canon Marvel ship isn't "History", it's just a ship.
Last exemple: Let's take a look at 2 popular couples from the same franchise: 9-1-1 and 911: Lone Star. Only one of the couples in canon, but Can you Guess which one is more popular on Ao3 and on Tumblr ?
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The non-canon couple!
Almost 3 Times as much fics for Buddie than TK x Carlos who are an actualcouple and even got married!
Shipping non-canon couples isn't about representation but about finding a story to fantasize about, which isn't bad itself but it's bad when you pretend shipping is something it isn't?
TL:DR: Shipping non-canon couples isn't activism imo.
I would be happy to hear tour thoughts because as I said, I only joined Tumblr later so I don't have all the info.
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gritsandbrits · 3 months
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Not wanna start discourse on main but why are stucky stans pretending they're so concerned now when they'd be the first ones to act misogynistic towards peggy and sharon (well any woman within the vicinity of steve or bucky) and be the first to downplay sam's accomplishments.
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When people think you have a problem with the ship when it’s actually the shippers…
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barneswilsonrogers · 2 years
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yall see what we, sambuckies, have to deal with? like we cant even joke anymore
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cblgblog · 9 months
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I still see virulent anti takes against Peggy and Steggy on MCU Tumblr and I have to say, it's Very Telling that all this Peggy hate only started up after Endgame. The same people calling Peggy Steve's abuser or saying she's a N/zi were fine with Peggy when they thought Steggy was dead in the water as a ship and not a threat to their own preferred ships and endings for Steve. TWS-era hardcore St/ckys were talking about how great it was that Peggy and Steve were still friends and making headcanons and fanart where they had a good relationship and Steve was proud of Peggy's accomplishments (even though TWS revealed Zola infiltrated SHIELD so if they really thought Peggy was a N/zi or was responsible for Operation Paperclip, they would've said so back then, no?). The only real reason there's so much Peggy/Steggy hate now is because Steggy is endgame, they canonically got married and grew old together, and what used to be a non-threatening, past-tense romance became the main obstacle to everyone else's fan theories.
Yup. All this. It’s amazing how a character’s entire personality and personal history changes when a certain ship doesn’t sail, isn’t it?
Peggy’s fine, when she’s not a threat. After EG? Oh she’s a Nazi and she actually assaulted him that time, and she’s a violent sociopath who tried to kill him.
Steve, of course, can't be forgotten, and is clearly, canonically now a racist MAGA Republican who gets his dinner cooked for him by Peggy promptly at 5pm every night. He also pushes elderly women into traffic instead of helping them cross the street, and he throws rocks at small children.
It's canon, guys, look it up.
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salad-juice-enjoyer · 10 months
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Am I the only one who gets skeeved when Stucky shippers put Arnie Roth in their mouths?
Like, seeing people trying to use the MCU's disregard for the source material to spin live-action white yaoi ship no. 2792919 as some celebration of Jewish queerness or w/e just.... makes me uncomfortable at best.
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thl-vrmr · 2 years
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If Stucky has a million haters i'm one of them. If Stucky has 10 haters i'm one of them. If Stucky has one hater, It's me. If Stucky has zero haters, I'm dead. if the world is rooting for Stucky, I am against the world.
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wntrsnat · 1 year
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Can we admit that 616 Stucky would be plain illegal?
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melina-mellow · 2 years
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Stucky stans are so fragile that all it took was Bruce saying that Steve had a casual hook up in the 40s during his tours for them to start sheeting in rage.
Literally saw someone say "so they're erasing Bucky?" In full seriousness. What the fuck!? Erasing what!? Their nonexistent romantic relationship in canon!?
I love my ships, I like talking about them and creating content around them, but I also know that there is a difference between CANON and HEADCANON people!
Like please, be serious!
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gwynpool · 1 year
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thinking about the comic mini when gwenpool and kamala bonded over stevebucky fanfic and a bunch of ppl who never cared abt either of them a day in their lives started crying abt how "cringe" and "ooc" it was... like where were all of them during the other girls' comics? literally just misogynists who only cared about the male charas (in this case steve & bucky) and imagine kissing them and never read any of kamala's or GP's comics but got mad that their fantasies were ruined for a single mini🙃
to be honest with you anon, i thought you were a st*cky and i was ready to fight lmao
another thing i want to be straightforward is that i didn’t actually like the gwenpool strikes back run. i felt like there were a lot of character inconsistencies and no one understands gwen other than her original writer christopher hastings.
that being said, i do agree with you. you got these stinkys ranting about how they were mocked in that run, tho i digress there are stans who actually enjoyed their implied relationship in the comics. i just need them to stay the fuck away from the comics, they can have the mcu shit. this type of behavior from non-canon white men shippers really needs to be studied like why are you this way???
anyways, thanks for sending this ask, anon. 💕
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mot-hesbian · 2 years
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I never ship the gay ship everyone seems to want me to...
I think brakenight and Swanqueen are the only exceptions.
Like, I never got the hype for:
Jori
Chanoey
Stucky
Stony
Melruth
Johnlock
Cherick (kinda see it tho, I just don't understand why it's so hyped)
And I just want to enjoy Bade and Steggy without having people come at me, man...
Might add more later
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unpopular-opinean · 2 years
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I hate Sucky. I think it gross. Maybe it’s because I grew up with earths mightiest heroes. Maybe it’s because I’ve always known that Bucky was Steve’s sidekick. There ship remains me of Batman and batgirl being shipped together. I hate it. 
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whatever blog that put me in the mcu fans radar, i hope u have a terrible day
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barneswilsonrogers · 2 years
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how can u claimed ‘sam is my favorite character’ but then proceed to make posts about sam feeling left out out of steve and bucky’s relationship? i dont understand how sam feeling sad and upset is FUNNY TO YOU? especially if u said ‘he is ur favorite character’?
anyway you did this way too many times thats why im sick of it and im calling u out. i dont care if u are hurt or upset because you are in fact WRONG and someone has to called u out. saying i need to ‘seek therapy’ wont stop u from being wrong because you are WRONG.
i dont care about being ‘exposed’ at least now u know how we, sam’s true fans, feel when you ‘joke’ about him. when you laughed at his expense. when you purposefully created a hc in your head about sam feeling upset and left out but then u claimed ‘u love him’. its all bullshit. we all know why u treat him like that, especially when u worship the ground white characters walk on.
if u truly love sam, u’ll hate this blog as much as i do
@incorrectquotesmcu @stephanieromanoff
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cblgblog · 11 months
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5, 6, and 14 for the choose violence game
For me, it's any Spider-Dad related stuff. I hate their dynamic so much
worst discord server and why
I have no idea, I’m too shy for Discord, even the ones I’ve joined.
which ship fans are the most annoying?
Stuckies. See a previous answer to this one for elaboration.
That one thing you see in fics all the time
May Parker defamation/erasure, and it's goddamn stupid.
And yes, Irondad, Spideydad, whatever the fuck it is, can go out behind the barn and shoot itself, because I hate it that much.
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opticblasting · 2 years
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browsing a tag and getting hit with stucky might as well shoot me. i do not want to see people ship the father and the son in the comics.
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