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fotibrit · 3 months
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Fully convinced that the main reason Tony was never made an Avenger was because Fury did not want Tony, he wanted “Tony Stark: Iron Man”.
It says so, in the file. Iron Man was approved, Tony Stark was not. Fury knew and understood that if he accepted Tony onto the team fully, if he let Tony believe himself embraced, then Tony would be able to (eventually) drop the show. He could stop acting 100% sure of himself all the time. He could have flaws and doubts and insecurities which he openly expresses.
Tony’s biggest appeal to Fury was that he was impulsive and expendable. Tony was willing to fly into fire on a whim, and Fury had a front row seat to Tony doing so (by fighting Vanko even while his heart killed him). But the thing is, if Tony saw himself as an equal to the other Avengers, he might start feeling like he had a community, and therefore a reason not to fly into fire. He might start opening up to people he viewed as equals, which would make him more likable and less expendable.
Fury couldn’t let Tony feel like an equal to the others. Tony had to feel like he wasn’t really on the team. Still, he had to be on the team.
So Fury managed it. He told Tony, in private, that Tony would be a “consultant”. Fury knew that Tony would still help the team without the title, and Tony knew that, in the eyes of the Avengers, he was still a “textbook narcissist” and had to act as such.
And then in public, Fury introduced the idea of the Avengers Initiative by implying that Tony was the first Avenger. “There was an idea- Stark knows this- called the Avengers Initiative”. Fury managed to convey to Tony that he was still expected to act superior while implying to the others that Stark was favored.
And there you have it. The perfect situation, for Fury. Stark would act high and mighty while still feeling unsupported. The team would see him as a symbol and founder, rather than a teammate. Tony would be willing and expected to sacrifice himself whenever Fury needed.
Iron Man would be on the team. Not Tony Stark.
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thedumbginger · 11 months
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It's so strange that no one on here is talking about how the intro to marvels secret invasion was created entirely by ai. This is the first time a major studio has done this. Just think of how big the MCU is. Think of how many people watch these shows and will be inspired by the opening and create their 'own' shows and openers consisting of stolen artwork. AI is taking the place of actual human artists. It isn't a what if anymore. It's real.
And it's completely terrifying.
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aliitvodeson · 9 months
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so Nick Fury made Director of SHIELD sometime between 1995 and 2008. He's a regular field agent in 1995, so personally I'd put it close to his interactions with Tony in 2008, but I'll split it in the middle and say 2002.
That means he's Director of SHIELD for roughly 12 years before he starts getting curious about what Pierce is doing, begins digging and Hydra attempts to kill him.
Meanwhile Peggy is Director/Founder/High Command from 1950ish to at least 1989, and she gets to retire, relax, and die peacefully in old age
So we don't even have to unpack all the Hydra scientists it's implied she recruited. Because how on EARTH did she run things for FOUR TIMES as long, and didn't see enough to make her question things??? While it was a SMALLER organization? She really didn't ask a single damn question that ticked Hydra off in fourty years? Not one?
Peggy Carter is either incompetent, or complicit.
the way I've seen multiple Peggy stans attack Nick Fury for not noticing faster- the racism is real
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melina-mellow · 11 months
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Look, I get what they were trying to go for with the whole commentary about how AI "art" is imperfect, soulless and uncanny imitations of real art just like how Skrulls are imperfect, soulless and uncanny imitations of the humans they copy.
But we should still call this shit out. Cause if we let a company as big and influential as Disney/Marvel get away with (despite the intentions) then others will see this as a green sign to pursue AI in their works.
Like, I get the thought process they went through... but you seriously cannot tell me human artists could not have produced the same result a thousand times better than AI.
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airybmore · 1 year
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Nick Fury (& Pierce) Parallels with Steve Rogers (&Peggy) in Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Ok so I’ve recently rewatched CATWS and, I’ve always found the use of photos in the Captain America movies really interesting, but I noticed something that I hadn't before -
There are a lot of photos shown in different places and contexts of people Steve knew from the past (photos he looks at of them and/or photos of them shown together), most notably of Bucky and Peggy.  But that also happens for two other characters.  
The obvious parallel - Sam with Riley – his close friend who served with him until he fell and ‘died’ young. 
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But the other set are Fury with Pierce - his old friend that is still alive and on his side (he thinks).
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And from there - there are just so many parallels between Steve and Peggy, and Fury and Pierce (with one set just further along the greyscale).
First we see Peggy-Pierce telling others (the video in the exhibit & talking to Steve) a story about Steve-Fury saving a group of people that included their family member (future husband & daughter).
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Peggy-Pierce both held positions of power, that they used to attach Steve-Fury to SHEILD in some visual way.
Peggy with naming it SHEILD and Pierce with:
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Peggy-Pierce are the ones Steve-Fury confide in when they are having doubts about SHIELD.
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Because they believe in them and see them as trustworthy.
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But then its revealed they both knowingly had a connection to Hydra taking over, with an added element of personal betrayal
One who worked with (recruited?) the exact Hydra member who Steve had lost a friend capturing (that led to her promise he would not be alone in making sure they were all dead or captured)
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And one as one of their leaders (who tries to have Fury killed immediately after he went to him for help)
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and then these two guys, the only ones shown having doubts about SHIELD (and who everyone thinks are dead at some point), both agree to destroy Hydra AND SHIELD before heading off on their own missions
But before that Steve got to hear two motivating talks about starting over:
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and maybe this is just a random monkey with a typewriter situation and that's all just a random coincidence (because they did nothing with it), but they did do it, and it does seems like they were building to something other than what we got
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rogersstevie · 2 months
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keep thinking how interesting it would've been if instead of a vague acknowledgement of peggy letting hydra into shield they would've actually committed to it and revealed she had been helping them the entire time, maybe even that she had been a double agent during the war and nobody finding out till decades later in catws like i would at least love to see this in fic bc how horrifed would steve be not bc she was the "love of his life" but because he did to an extent know her and trust that they were on the same side so to find out otherwise would make the discovery that he hadn't in fact stopped hydra as he believed even more painful
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nerdby · 10 months
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All I can imagine right now are all the artists downloading this and lining up to sue the fuck out of Disney and Ali Selim for using their art for the Secret Invasion credits🤣
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p-taryn-dactyl · 2 years
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i still tear up over the fact that the only time tony found peace was in death
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plokool · 11 months
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Non-Spoiler PSA: Secret Invasion has an intro sequence that was made with AI. I didn't know this because I'd been avoiding reading anything to avoid spoilers, but now I wish I had. I regret having watched the first episode not knowing this. Boycott the show immediately
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kajaono · 7 months
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Checking the Nick Fury tag is wild. I was like: „wow they made him gay? What an achievement! Didn’t thought marvel would do that. Maybe j could start watching Marvel again… AAAAAH! Whatever.“
That’s why I say fuck you disney, on a regular basis
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mistbornhero · 9 months
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Can't believe that Secret Invasion is just like "Nick Fury is so pathetic. Want proof? Boom! Bye Maria Hill"
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le-regrems · 11 months
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So here are things I liked about secret invasion ep 1
Samuel L. Jackson.
That's it thank you
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hitchell-mope · 6 months
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Still a great movie. I’ll start the third film with an absolutely terrible ending tomorrow.
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fanfictionroxs · 7 months
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Pre-everything going to shit, news reaches the Red Keep that Lucerys Velarion has once again slashed someone's eye out. Cue Aemond being a jealous mess, his one eye twitching with fury because how dare his nephew mark another?! Oh the tantrum that follows is legendary and ironically Rhaenyra is the only one who can understand him because just the thought of Alicent stabbing anyone else makes her feel like she herself will turn into a fire breathing dragon. Cue brother-sister bonding time over the audacity of their nephew-stepmother trying to mark someone else.
PS Luke didn't even hurt anyone, he just accidently nicked Jace with his sword during a fight. This does NOT help Aemond's jealousy because Jace is literally the no 1 anti-lucemond guy out there (closely followed by Aegon because say whatever the guy DID slash his little bro's eye and he is sort of protective). Alicent is just confused because why does she have the angry eyes of her ex-bestie following her around and is that smoke coming out of your nostrils Rhaenyra wtf?!!!
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bobauthorman · 1 month
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I’ve been thinking about this for a while, and I want to bring it out into the open. Each of Oz’s main lieutenants are deconstructions of character archetypes. Well, everyone in RWBY is a deconstruction, but no one wants to talk about Oz’s circle.
Oz, as has been established, turns the fantasy mentor archetype on its head. Not only is he a bad mentor, whose reckless manipulations never pan out, but the protags are far less forgiving of his string-pulling, and have every right to be. Unforgiving, that is.
Ironwood, similarly, deconstructs the ‘Anti-authority authority figure’; like Captain Kirk (Star Trek) or Nick Fury (Marvel), they are military leaders who frequently chaff under their more politically-minded peers and superiors, who undercut those peers whenever they can. Unlike Kirk/Fury, this is not a sign of open-mindedness, but arrogance and stuborness, the childish belief that the rules don’t apply to him.
Qrow is much like Wolverine (X-Men), a ‘Bad Boy with a Gold Heart’ who is kept in line by his loyalty to the mentor figure. In this case, Qrow’s Too Cool For School ‘tude is coping mechanism and mask for the massive chip on his shoulder, and because his self-worth was tied so deeply to serving Oz, when Oz is exposed as the fraud he is, Qrow has a full-on breakdown.
Lionheart was much harder to figure out, given that he only has one volume’s worth of screen time, and even we don’t get much of Lionheart’s personality. I theorize that Lionheart was intended to be a dig at the ‘Token Minority’ archetype. For many series in the old days, there are these characters who supposed to represent different races. (For example, Haji from Johnny Quest). Unfortunately, these characters are rarely given any personality outside of ‘Guy from foreign culture’, often becoming a deliverer of stereotypical views showrunners have. CRWBY has stated that Lionheart was made headmaster by Oz as a token for Faunus (The series allegory for minorities), but we hear nothing of whether that did any good (Blake even accuses Oz of not doing more for the Faunus). It’s possible that because of this Lionheart lacked the strength of self to stop Salem from forcing his compliance with the attacks on Vale and Haven.
Theodore hasn’t appeared in the series proper, but from the book Before The Dawn I could make a case that he encompasses the stock shonen hero; destructive strength and a destructive temper. The problem is, he’s a moron, but lacks that ‘Deeper wisdom’ even himbos like Son Goku and Monkey D Luffy have to compensate. And his dependence on the smarter but weaker female lead (In this case, Rumpole) to handle the more organizational aspects of his position means that when Rumpole is compromised, Theodore’s shoddy management nearly causes Shade Academy to implode.
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honey-minded-hivemind · 3 months
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Follow-up for Villain!Reader (Bee-themed), Hive!
After trying to flee from the platonic yan/s, and subsequentially figuring out the platonic yans who've been visiting then were infected (or telepaths who could see into their mind and their infected teammates), Reader heads on a night train to New York... Where they were when they were Hive, and where every other hero, villain, vigilante, and super person seems to reside.
Being back is... Not the greatest feeling in the world. Reader feels tense, trudging out of the station and out into the bustling streets with only what they had packed previously, but they can't focus on how they hate being back. Their first order of business: Finding a few hidey-homes to set up shop in. Perks of saving their money over the years from their old villain days is they have a small fortune tucked away, and it definitely helps get them a few places to hide in. Imagine that they have a small apartment/house/studio in each hero/villain/vigilante territory. Some work as homes, some work as small coffee houses, others as antique markets and flea stores. Reader has to keep themself going, and they learned a few tricks over the years on how to keep hidden and to run side lives. That being said...
They're back on the home turf of every single person they've been trying to avoid. And it is driving them INSANE.
Yeah, look. Sure, it's nice setting up little cafes between two or three schools and entertaining tired students with the backstory behind the objects displayed on the walls. It's cute seeing people find items they love from their antique/flea malls, lighting up when they find something they personally found and put in the collection. It even feels good hearing stories from the weird kids and teens and strangers who mill around the places they're at, enjoying a peaceful Saturday... But still, it's NEW YORK! Home of every powerful, rich, and trained person who happens to know their old alias, fought AND chased them, and whom have made it clear that some of them had been infected with their venom or pheromones, by them or their boss or by some freak accident! How the H*CK does one stay calm in the belly of the beasts?!
Reader slowly gets to know some of the teens who show up at their cafes and antique stores, learning a bit about how people their age are supposed to act. It's... sobering, in a way. That that could have been them. That they could have had a healthier life, family or friends, a sense of purpose and community... Yet they cast it back to the shadows. They can't go back in time, and they have to keep in the here and now. When they have teen heroes and villains show up at their places, Reader is shocked. TEEN heroes? TEEN villains? TEEN vigilantes? Where the F*CK are the adults?! Who the H*LL is letting their kids run around fighting psychopaths and criminals and rioters and anti-mutant and racist *ssholes?! When Reader manages to calm down, they realize that some of the teens are the same ones they see on a near-daily basis. And they promptly have an (almost) heart-attack.
Great, JUST GREAT. Their old foes have children in their groups, who they now KNOW. The X-Men, who were only The Professor, Storm, and Wolverine years ago, now have, like, a dozen kids! The Brotherhood, who was maybe Magneto, Mystique, and Sabretooth or Mastermind now had half a dozen brats causing havoc (and had a Havok with them. PEACHY). Spider-man is barely a teenager, and has NO adults, unless you count Nick Fury and the Avengers checking up on him! And he's not the only spider child!
Reader is having a melt down, along with choice words over everything they've learned by the power of observation and intuition. They thought they had been the only child brought into that world of super powers and nutjobs... Now there's near TWENTY of them?! Possibly MORE?!
Reader works on keeping a new distance between themslef and the teens and kids, while also asking careful questions ("How is school?" "Weather is bad tonight, do you have a jacket?" "I heard there's a few new heroes and villains popping up, what do you think about it?") Reader uses every trick in the book they can remember to figure out what's going on. Are the adults treating them well? Are they still after Reader? Is the public leaving them alone, or causing too much trouble? Reader doesn't want to say they care, but they will go out of their way to leave a few leftovers out at their cafes for anyone who needs it (heroes, villains, vigilantes, homeless, hungry kids). It feels nice, doing good... If only they could just forget the nightmares of the past...
All this time, the platonic yan/s have gone back to New York, and have heard word that Hive might be there. They're elated. Of course now, they need to actually find that slippery little bee, and drag them back to their team/group/base, with them. They're glad though, that the teens of their group have a few new hangout spots. Some vintage stores or something they keep prattling on about. It makes them happy, and they belive the teens deserve to have some happiness... Especially since the whole reason they took on teens themselves was to offer them a better home, a better family, job, community, than Hive seemed to have... Finding out that their old boss had basically used them the moment their powers came in, it leaves them feeling sick. Maybe their little bee didn't have much of a childhood, but they'd be d*mned if their own kids didn't.
Sooner or later, the platonic yan/s visit the places the teens recommended (after much pestering, and in some cases, bribery).... And find themselves face-to-face (some of them towering over) Hive; or, at least the Hive outside of the mask. They're trying to stay calm, but seeing how the one kid they'd failed is right there (and those who had been infected, want to hear their thoughts again, and hug them), it's hard to do so, yet they manage. If only their little bee weren't so scared to see them. Don't they remember the chases? The heists? Late nights with moonlight streaming down and the fresh adrenaline of the hunt? Seeing inside their head, if only for a minute (and before they knew that was what they were doing)?
The adults take the time to inform their kids (plus Spider-man and the Spider kids), that their new friend, is also Hive. The old villain they talked about, whenever it was a quiet night and they were in the mood to reminisce. And the teens are floored. THAT person, is HIVE? The odd, kinda funny, and nervous barista/antique collector/owner of the business they visit, is Hive, right-hand man-woman- er, child- to Drone Queen? The most delusional, most vicious and conniving black-clad villain they'd seen since Hydra and the Weapon X *ssholes? THAT Hive? Suffice to say-
They're SHOOK...
Peter Parker had done research on some of the old villains the Avengers, X-Men, even Deadpool, the Brotherhood, and Doc Ock, had faced. And Drone Queen could be described by one word (he wasn't allowed to say that word, Aunt May, Nick Fury, and Iron Man would kill him if he said it), so he used another, more scientific word: a psychopath. They were BAD news. They'd had the latest state-of-the-art drugs back in the day, the type that could control anyone, or make them believe anything. Not to mention hordes upon hordes of guards, all of which were found to have a mindless loyalty to them, even when they were almost killed. It was... scary. Then there was Hive, who was like their weird... sidekick, or pet, or something. Who would run errands. Finding whatever gem or artifact they wanted, causing chaos between various gangsters and local vigilantes, whatever they were told, they did- Until one day, they just- (this part no one seemed sure about)- they just didn't do what they used to. Where they were peppy, talkative, and funny, they went silent. Jumpy. Like even THEY were scared of their boss. And after that, they just kept becoming less active, less loyal, small things they let slide and left alone... The heroes and villains eventually faced down Drone Queen, but it turned out all the control they had was from Hive all along.. It wasn't some charisma they had, or bribes, or even torture- They used Hive's venom, and forced it onto others, making unwilling puppets and slaves. They found that out when Hive actually attacked that freaky liar themself (good for them!). They were defeated, locked up, and life went back to normal... But Hive had escaped in the chaos, never to be heard from again. Yeah, apparently that was NOT the case anymore.
Cue the teens now trying to get to know Reader, the infected platonic yans happily renewing their chase and efforts to open up the hivemind, and the other platonic yans just going along for the ride...
At least Reader has an idea now of who all knows about them... Now if they could just slip past the adults and hitch a ride to Cananda...
Bonus:
Reader: How old were you when you started, twelve?!
Spider-man: No, I was thirteen!
Reader: ....
Reader: I have some choice words for Nick Fury...
Spider-man: Well, fine! How old were YOU when you started?
Reader: ... Do you mean when I met my old boss? Or when I actually started out as Hive?
Spider-man: Um... whichever, I guess?
Reader: ... I was... maybe... ten?
Spider-man:
Spider-man: WHAT?!
Reader: Well in my defense, I met them when I was five!
Spider-man: HOW IS THAT ANY BETTER?!
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