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hesallin · 3 months
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tony: look. i know from the outside it seems like i have everything together-
steve: it does not
steve, worried: do you actually think that
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ircn-dad · 1 year
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Here to remind you how Tony was unfocusing his gaze 'cause of the pain he felt while probably struggling to recognize what was happening around him and who was the person in front of him, but as soon as he heard "it's me, it's Peter" he immediately focused on him.
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And while he couldn't find the force to speak, my theory is that he didn't do it also because he didn't know what to say to make the kid stop crying, to make the pain go away.
He knew what to do with Pepper and with Rhodey, their reactions were so part of their characters: Rhodey and Tony didn't need to share a word, they have been friends since ever and they understand each other without the need to talk; Pepper and Tony both smiled at each other, to reassure the other that everything and everyone will be fine.
With Peter? I think Tony not speaking was also in character. He didn't almost speak when Peter was dying, he didn't know what to do. He tried to comfort him when he said "you're alright", but as soon as things got worse he just stood there in shock, without never taking his eyes off him while Peter was crying and begging him to do something.
The same happens here:
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In the photos you can't catch it very clearly, but if you watch the complete scene you can see how Tony is not taking his eyes off him and -even when Pepper is there and is trying to take him away- he's trying to calm him down with his eyes, because that's Peter, the kid he lost and that he found five years later just to lose him again. I don't know if I'm the only one, but I almost saw panic in his eyes, it's like he was scared about Peter not being okay and about him not saying a word again. That's why he whispered kid once he wasn't in his gaze anymore, he wanted to see him one last time, to make sure to reassure him like he did with Rhodey and, soon, with Pepper. To make Peter sure that he will be fine even without him.
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Shoutout to all the Tony Stark ships who are Anti Steve Rogers (MCU) in their fanfics.
Shoutout to all Tony Stark ships who hate the guts out of the Whitewashed Wendy bitch.
Shoutout to all Tony Stark ships who do nothing but try to give Tony his happy ending with people he deserves to be with.
Shoutout to all Tony Stark ships who write him trying to break the generational trauma and be the good parental figure.
Shoutout to all Tony Stark ships who don't shit on Pepper in their fanfics and portray her just like the pillar of support she has been.
Last but not the least-
shoutout to all Tony Stark ships who acknowledge and give justice to all his mental health issues compassionately.
[PS: please do tell if this lands in a wrong tags, I'll try to remove it from there, no need to be rude ]
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daminwayne · 8 months
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It’s 2023 and I’m still upset about all the Tony Stark hate post CACW
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tony stark you are so loved and appreciated🫂
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illicthearts · 8 months
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I watched Infinity War today, sometimes I question why I liked it so much because half the things they do pisses me off. Especially Quill he pisses me off so much.
And STEVE, don’t even get me started on him. “We don’t trade lives,” JUST A MOVIE A GO YOU WERE PREACHING THAT WE NEED ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR LINE OF WORK YOU CAN’T SAVE EVERYONE. And than he goes ahead sacrifices a bunch of people (POCs) to save a ROBOT! Who mind you could be made again.
But I guess that only applies to faceless people. Not to the people you know personally and especially not if Wanda loves that person. I hate his hypocritical ass so much.
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dragon-master-kai · 6 months
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One thing I find ironic about Wendy Bitchoff:
"I can't control their fear. Only my own."
Bitch. Are you srsly THAT dumb.... one of your powers is literally manipulating people's fears, which was shown when she mind-raped the ACTUAL Avengers alongside all of Westview.
You CAN control their fear. That's EXACTLY what she did when she was with HYDRA.
And Captain Steven Grant Dodgy SERIOUSLY thinks that Wanda is:
A) a child - she was a consenting adult who knew exactly what she was doing and has admitted ot herself that she only joined a terrorist organisation and later on ULTRON bc of the CHANCE that these guys could cause Tony Stark to destroy himself.
B) genuinely trying to do some good when she joins Avengers. She was SOO INVESTED in being actively evil and causing destruction... what does Steve think happened.
"Ultron can't tell the difference between saving the world and destroying it. Where do you think he gets it from?" - Wanda.
And earlier in the film "we're not at war, Captain." - Maria Hill.
"They are." - Steve, about The Two Enhanced.
Does Steve honestly think Wanda had NO HAND in MAKING Ultron? I mean, I've seen so many posts here about how Tony had successfully made other AI's who didn't go batshit crazy. How incompetent do they think Tony Stark, THE Tony Stark is? He's succeeded in making things to protect the world before. Iron Man. Iron Legion. Freaking Veronica. Why do they think so little of him, someone they've known for years and more importantly:
How can someone who's supposed to be as impartial and perceptive as Captain Dodgy believe the word of two voluntary terrorists who so CLEARLY have a HATRED for Tony Stark?
It's like believing Hitler if he tried to justify exactly why The Holocaust is a good idea and why genocide is the answer.
It honestly baffled me that some people GENUINELY think that Tony is the villain, when he was MANIPULATED before the creation of Ultron and that they think Wanda is this pure, poor, innocent little girl who lost everything bc of a Stark bomb and they think she's right to hate Tony and want him dead.
Another thing I realised yday night at 1:30am or smth: (I had written business identity her previously but idk how that's relevant to got rid of that)
You'd think that after an active terrorist was given a chance by the people she mind-raped, they'd bother to teach her about her misplaced anger. Why Tony doesn't really bother with her, I understand. She caused Ultron. And everyone blames him. She caused her own brother to die. And she still blames him.
"Ultron can't tell the difference between saving the world and destroying it. Where do you think he gets it from?" - Wanda still blames him. Cause CLEARLY, a GENIUS INVENTOR, who has made MULTIPLE AI's MUST'VE somehow fucked up ONE he did whilst he was UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MIND MAGIC THAT AMPLIFIED HIS PTSD AND PARANOIA. And that's OBVIOUSLY the mind-rape victim's fault.
The MCU, Tony antis, wanda defense squad, etc all buy into this. They think a mind-rape victim is at fault for acting out in their own defence. Bc that's essentially what Tony was doing. Trying to protect himself AND the word around him.
And everyone hates him for it.
Wanda acts like the victim and all, but honestly, she wasn't mind-raped. She was DOING the mind-raping, a conscious decision. If she REALLY wasn't intently malicious, she would've only mind-raped Tony Stark, not the entire team. She might be childish enough to think that if they're working WITH him, then they MUST like him or BE like him, but this shithead has freaking kind magic. The team didn't have training against Mind magic, even after Loki (a failure on the leader's part, so Steve. I bet he didn't even BOTHER trying to find anyone or thing that could protect his team - The only ones who could've helped them fortify their minds would be Kamar Taj. They could've figured out something to get protection for their minds, and money wouldn't've been a problem, as Tony was funding the Avengers back then), so there was LITERALLY nothing stopping her from going into their minds and realising "Holy shit. They don't even like Tony. I don't need to waste my abilities on them. I can really fuck up Tony Stark and have him destroy himself, bc that's what people do when their minds are being messed with and that's that."
But no. She's not only childish and immature with this highly dangerous power, but she also doesn't think in a way that says she's smart enough to BE an Avenger.
Steve's reasons for attacking his own teammate on the word of terrorists is just "They lost their family. They live in a war. So did I. I'm the captain of this ship. HEY, NAZI TERRORIST, COME JOIN THE AVENGERS! You don't need to answer for all the crime you've committed thus far. So it's all cool."
Fucking idiot.
I really hate epoeple who claim that Wanda's infamous line - "Ultron can't tell the difference between saving the world and destroying it. Where do you think he gets it from?" - Is a hint at Tony Stark.
It's already been established that the twins are at war and they wanna do something about it. So who would benefit more by having a major hand in creating the killer AI bot? The twins who can't tell the difference between helping themselves and destroying the world OR the philanthropist who puts himself in harms way in EVERY DAMN FILM to PROTECT THE PEOPLE?
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4rcreactor · 6 months
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attention all tony stans:
I need a friend who I can babble and rant about my love for tony stark with. I have severe tony stan deficiency.
like and I'll msg you djshdb
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bayzadas · 1 year
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So I met this person who said "if only his (Tony's) dad was ever actually developed to be actually abusive" and that's bullshit. Howard clearly abused Tony in a lot of ways- emotionally, mentally, physically.
He made Tony drink alcohol when Tony was a literal child, told him he had to be a man. That's how Tony's drinking problem started. Howard forcing a child, his own child, to drink. He told him that drinking will put hair on his chest, and that he had to stop being a sissy. He hit Tony when he saw him playing with toys. He physically abused him for acting his age. Because of Howard, Tony stopped playing with toys. There were only weapons. Tony literally promised him "No toys, just weapons."
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In the comics, Howard literally tried to sell Tony to Dracula in exchange of immortality. He died, became a demon and tried to kill his own son in hell. And people are still saying that he tried his best to be a dad and that he failed? My friend, he didn't even try a little. Imagine being that ignorant.
And no, MCU Howard isn't better. Howard literally scarred Tony for his whole life. He didn't let him be a child. He wanted him to be another version of himself. Iron Man 2 tried to show Howard as a good man by making him say "You were my greatest creation" and that was full of shit. First of all, he didn't even try to show Tony that he appreciated him even just a little bit. That man didn't even bothered to tell Tony he loved him even once. And then he recorded himself saying that? You gotta try a little harder if you want your son to think better of you, Howard. Also, saying that your own son is your greatest creation is weird. Tony is his own person. He isn't a machine that Howard made, that man doesn't own him.
Avengers Endgame also tried to make Howard look better and that made me sick. That was awful. Endgame was so bad for that. Tony hugged his abuser, forgave him, and literally thanked him for everything.
Russo brothers, what the hell? What did Tony thank Howard for, exactly? Ignoring him? Starting his drinking problem? Hitting him? Abusing him verbally? Physically? Not letting him be a child for once? Are those the things Tony thanked Howard for?
And don't even get me started on "The kid's not even here yet, and there's nothing I wouldn't do for him." Everything about this sentence is awful. Horrible. Disgusting. Makes me sick. You know why? Because that is a way of saying Tony is the one to blame.
Knowing how Howard treated Tony, this literally means Tony is the one who failed to meet Howard's expectations. Tony's the one who's at fault for the way how Howard abused him. Because he wasn't good enough. Because he wasn't what Howard wanted him to be. If Tony was what Howard expected, Howard wouldn't be so bad with him. But Tony disappointed him, so Howard gave up on him. That's literally what that sentence means. Tony's playing the victim. He's being ungrateful to his dad. Howard's not wrong for the way how he raised Tony, Tony should've known better.
Did you know that Tony, as a fourteen years old child, was so traumatized to the point he built something he called "Stark City"? He built that as an apology to his father. And you know what he was trying to apologize for? Living. He tried to apologize Howard for living and Howard didn't even see it.
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Imagine the feeling. Imagine the way how he felt his whole childhood. Abused. Ignored. Depressed. Maybe even suicidal, since he literally regretted being born as a fourteen years old. But yeah, only if Howard was actually developed to be an abusive father.
Fuck you, Russo brothers. Fuck you, Howard apologists.
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midethefangirl · 8 months
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it’s been long since I made a pro Tony Stark post but seeing someone try to blame the events of Civil War going south on him had me heated. look, I will admit that some of Tony’s actions in the movie where not okay at all like wanting to kill Bucky for killing his mother while under HYDRA’s influence but maybe Steve stans and a lot of pro team cap folks should realize that Steve’s actions also played a huge role in the movie as well.
for one, maybe Steve should have realized that 119 countries banding together to make a document, you feel is threatening your rights, is a serious matter. 119 countries is almost two-thirds of the countries in the UN and the world, if a great part of the world thinks you are doing more harm than good, maybe as a superhero, you should try to reason with them.
two, Steve chose to do nothing when he thought his rights were threatened by the accords. I do think there were some human rights violations in the accords that should not have been avoided, however, Steve chose to do nothing. anyone who has done a bit of activism know how ineffective that strategy is.
three, Steve’s actions were proving to the UN even more reasons why they felt the accords were necessary. interfering with law enforcement when they were out for Bucky who was potentially dangerous was a bad idea. sure, Bucky was his best friend and I don’t blame Steve for wanting to save him. however, let us remember that Bucky had killed people while he was the Winter Soldier and the Romanian government didn’t have the perspective we have and they had every reason to see him as a huge threat.
four, infantilizing Wanda by calling her a kid because Tony decided to put her on house arrest. and yes, I agree that Tony not telling Wanda was a very bad idea but let us not forget that the Avengers were still under public scrutiny after a disaster of a mission in Lagos and the accords. Wanda could have been attacked by outsiders who could have gone the Zemo route because a family member was in Lagos and that would have caused her to try to defend herself which could get twisted by the media and turn more of the public against her and the avengers as a whole. mind you, the Avengers were facing enough mistrust from the public.
also, Steve, calling a huge comfortable compound with a swimming pool an internment is a bit tonedeaf to those whose ancestors have been to actual interments. as someone who had an Asian American on his team, I’d expect he know better.
five, accords or not, maybe the Russian government has the right to know about a man controlling dangerously brainwashed men within their country. sure, it latter turned out to be a false alarm but considering the fact that this was a security threat which many countries would take seriously, Steve for some reason never considered the fact that the Russian government should be alerted to something like that. if this didn’t scream arrogance, I don’t know what else did.
six, resisting arrest and trashing public property while on international borders in the bid of resisting arrest would piss off the very people who are already pissed at you and your American passport would not bail you out of that one. even international passports come with a warning about their holders committing a crime in other countries. the fact that Steve acknowledged that his team could get arrested for that made it even worse.
this one is actually addressed to the whole of team cap, not just Steve, but seven, you cannot commit a crime on international soil with full knowledge that it is a crime and then blame somebody else for why you ended up in jail. sure, the rift and Thaddeus Ross are sketchy in nature but Scott and Clint blaming Tony for why they ended up there was funny to me because they made the informed decision to commit a crime.
eight, which is a major part being that it was the climax of Civil War, hmmm, maybe keeping the secret of the death of the parents of your rich teammate whose money was funding the search of their killer from him is a very bad idea. idk, man, I would be angry too if it were me. sure, wanting to kill Bucky was wrong but if we didn’t fault the Mayonnaise twins, T’Challa, Peter Parker and later Shuri for going after their parents’ (perceived, in T’Challa’s case) killers, maybe we could give Tony too some grace because brainwashed or not, I would have gone after Bucky too.
nine, the apology letter was the shittiest letter ever and I don’t blame Tony for not wanting to speak to Steve during the events of Infinity War. like how can you even write that type of letter to someone you offended and expect the relationship to still be intact?
there was one part I almost forgot but that quote that emboldened Steve is also dumb the more I look at it. oh yeah, plant yourself in front of the 119 countries you didn’t even bother to address at all and tell them “no, you move” is the ultimate height of hubris. when you are already on thin ice with the public? and Steve thought this was a good idea? yikes 😬
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poesababe · 2 years
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The MCU: PLOT TWIST!! Oh oh oh plottity plot plot twist, Wanda is a villain!! Wanda has little to no remorse hurting others if it means getting what she wants!!
Tony stans who said this since 2019:
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nutella-28m · 1 year
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Apparently there is some talk going around that RDJ might make a comeback as Tony Stark to the MCU. To be frank here, I really hope he doesn't.
My blog has always and will forever be a Tony blog even if I have other fandom content. I love Tony so much that I don't think I'll ever get over his death in Endgame nor will I ever forgive how much the MCU used him as a scapegoat because he deserved so much better than that.
And realistically speaking here, it's the MCU. They are not going to bring back Tony for anything good, they'll most likely use him as more cannon fodder for whatever fucked up plot they have that conveniently needs someone to blame.
'Far From Home' did exactly that, having an array of supposed "victims" that Tony somehow wronged work together and be villains. 'What If...?' killed Tony off in the two or three episodes he appeared in. Things he worked for have either been scrapped or made void (SPOILER: The Sokovian Accords have been repealed).
Side note: In regards to the last bit, whatever reason was given means shit to me because I find it hard to believe that it was done for any other purpose than to simply avoid having to work through it and just toss it aside like every other plot/plothole. A new low for lazy writing, in my opinion but whatever keeps their hands clean of accountability I guess.
I find it very hard to believe that Tony will be used in a way where he'll get an ending he deserves or a plot line where he can actually catch a break for five minutes. I really hope I'm wrong and that he's given some justice in terms of all the shit he has been through but I doubt it. No character is truly safe.
Getting to see RDJ as Tony again will undeniably fill my heart with happiness and I can't say the the prospect of it all doesnt have me bouncing with joy. But at the expense of using him to justify whatever fucked up shit they have in store or to just kill him off again, I'd rather they not.
Tony deserves better than that.
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ircn-dad · 1 year
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I saw on the original post of these gifts the reblogs and...wow. Not the people saying "Tony reacts like that because that's what Steve tried to tell him before!! #antitonystark"
What actually Steve said: This job... We try to save as many people as we can. Sometimes that doesn't mean everybody, but, if we can't find a way to live with that, Next time... maybe nobody can be saved.
Peter is basically saying he can't live with the knowledge of not helping everyone, Steve is saying that they have to learn to live with it because it's better saving someone than not saving everyone.
While I think Steve is not an asshole and doesn't like when someone dies, I also think that Peter and Steve are not guided by the same morality. Steve accept the fact a lot of people die with his job, Peter and Tony don't. They can't accept the fact they cannot save everyone, they feel responsible for every damage they cause. That's why Tony had that look, because he related to Peter's words. That's literally the point of why he wanted the accords.
Tony blames him self and not just for Ultron. He blamed himself since IM1. When he said "I just finally know what I have to do, and i know in my heart that's it's right" and right before that he mentioned the soldiers who were killed by his weapons, even if it wasn't directly his fault. You can se the parallels between the two of them, they both blames themselves for everything.
Were the accords bad? Yes. Were they needed? Also, Yes. The idea of the accords was good because if I was one of the civilians like Zemo I would want them, and you cannot say otherwise if you were in their place.
So yes, I still think Peter would have been on Team Iron Man anyway because Peter would never turn his back on the civilians (He sacrifices his identity for them, he sacrificed his whole life for them). Even if he didn't like the accords, he would have accepted them and willed to change them. Peter and Tony have the same guilt, the same morale. Tony choose Peter because he saw himself in him, and Peter found comfort in Tony because he was the only one who understood him (Like confirmed in IW novelization).
Tony was the best person to mentor him.
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sherylhooper · 2 years
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I've been rewatching old MCU movies (where Tony is alive, sue me) and I still find it so hard to watch J.A.R.V.I.S die. He loved Tony so much, cared for him so much and that, even nowdays, when people throw that Edwin Jarvis' quote "I'd hate to live on as a voice" or something like this, to justify that Tony was wrong to create J.A.R.V.I.S and give him Edwin's voice is like a fucking insult to both Tony Stark and Edwin Jarvis.
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Because Edwin was the one who rised Tony. To that boy Jarvis was the father, not Howard Stark and for the script writers who say that Jarvis would have hated if he knew about J.A.R.V.I.S having his voice, when he knew that Tony, the boy he raised, found comfort in his voice... is like the most disgusting thing in the entire universe (universes).
And to mention, the biggest fuck up (or, knowing them, it was probably intentional with how they hate Tony) was when they had Vision fall in love with a woman who gave herself to neo-Nazi organisation because she hated Tony that much. Who was responsible of Ultron being created, who was responsible of J.A.R.V.I.S' death and who triggered Tony's PTSD again (because she is their baby white girl (you know, when she is canonicaly Rromani, but *whitewashing* (I'm white myself*)) who makes them more money)...
That something that came from J.A.R.V.I.S, Tony's most advanced A.I. that Tony created, who loved his creator so much and whose prime purpose was to protect Anthony Edward Stark, would ever fall in love with that woman is butchering both Edvin Jarvis' and J.A.R.V.I.S' characters...
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And to not even show how devastated Tony probably was in AoU and just make Wanda their princess who can do no wrong... To have Vision even entertain the idea of liking J.A.R.V.I.S murderer is horrifying and I'm very glad to see that her suffering and hope that she will bring death upon herself (we all know she didn't die in MoM, MCU writers will never kill off their milking cow when they can make more money).
Also, I've not watched MoM but I've read what happens and to all these people who even like Wanda after all that shit she pulled (starting with in WANDAVISION) and go like "slay, qeeun"; "girlboss" and everything like that... get out of my page and never interact with me, ya'll disgust me and scare me too.
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gaiagalit · 1 year
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I thought I liked Endgame but as time went on I realized I only liked parts of it. And the more I think about it, the more I realize Endgame didn't have to be as disappointing as it was. I feel like even just a few changes would have greatly improved the movie:
Having an actual scene where Tony and Steve talk about what happened between them. Instead, the movie rushed their reconciliation and we're left to assume they worked out their issues off-screen. (They HAD to have talked sometime in the five-year time gap in Endgame.  You don’t get from “No trust liar” to “If you don’t talk shop, you’re welcome to stay for lunch” without reaching some kind of understanding).
It would have been good to have seen that on screen. It definitely would have been a better use of screen time than Fat Thor and all the offensive and not-funny jokes that came with it. Getting rid of the Fat Thor subplot and giving us more Steve and Tony content would have been a big improvement for the film.
Another thing that we didn't get was any type of closure between Bucky and Tony. There should have been a scene where Bucky saved either Pepper or Tony during the Battle of Earth and Tony would thank him and let him know he's not a murderer, etc, basically make their peace. Heck, even just a nod to each other on the battlefield would have been better than nothing. It certainly would have been more substantial than that contrived girl-power scene.
The aforementioned Tony, Steve, and Bucky scenes I've suggested would have also have helped heal the rifts in the fandom. Obviously not the hard-core haters, but antis on both sides capable of seeing reason would likely soften their stance on the characters.
All this of course doesn't address all of the problems with Endgame, (Natasha's death, Tony's death, Steve's ending, the fact that the MCU had reached its logical conclusion but was still going to continue..., etc.), but I feel like even those changes alone would have drastically improved the film.
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taylorkellyreporting · 6 months
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rhodey: how many kids do you have?
tony: biologically, emotionally, or legally?
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