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spitblaze · 3 months
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if you genuinely think that transmascs and trans men trying to talk about their issues with their own terms is transmisogynistic or 'mens rights activism 2.0' i genuinely and kindly invite you to maybe like. idk. consider that someone identifying with masculinity doesnt prevent them from facing unique forms of descrimination
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mr-ribbit · 4 months
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this isn't meant to soften or reduce the objective transmisogyny + additional hate action going into this, but since the people running these harassment campaigns are acting like they're literal baby children who need their hands held to understand anything, maybe this needs to be said:
what you're doing and how you treat trans women on this website is fucking MEAN. if you want to sit there and honestly convince yourself that you're *not* a transmisogynist or a transphobe or a misogynist or any other type of bigot - like if you genuinely believe that and are confused why people are calling you these things - then maybe we need to start from little primary colored building blocks and tell you that you're being fucking mean and rude and actively harmful to real people who read the things you say. im not sure why we need to start off with "trans women have feelings" - just kidding I know exactly why we need to - but maybe you don't.
no matter who you're talking to, do you honestly think accusing someone you do not know of being a pedophile, en masse, behind their back /and/ in a public forum, is a reasonable way to treat someone for making a tumblr post about video games or political opinions? even if you strongly disagree with the post, you think someone deserves to be treated like that by people they don't know? take a second please and sincerely imagine how that would feel. wouldn't it be scary? wouldn't you wonder who the people were who thought this about you - if they're people you know - if they're just a few people that will continue saying mean things to you forever or if there are thousands of people who choose to dedicate their time and energy specifically to making you feel bad? if you accidentally write a post in the wrong tone or unknowingly interact with a shitty person, that there are uncountable people that will keep track of that just to hurt you later? that's fucking horrifying
and to zone in on what's specifically happening here: do you think randomly accusing people of being pedophiles or sexual abusers has no effect on them? like a lot of you tend to excuse yourself in these discussions by saying "I didn't actually see the context of what they were saying" or "I didn't see that they apologized already" or "I didn't actually understand the post was a joke" or whatever other kneejerk response to make sure *you* aren't seen as a bad person. do you realize that makes you look even meaner? you didn't bother to actually follow up on a thought you had about someone before sending them hateful messages or making public accusations about them? those actions are harmful whether or not you like the victim at the end of the day.
believe it or not some people you send this shit to are survivors of abuse themselves, or have their own historical personal reasons to be weighing in on a touchy subject. when you baselessly decide it's ok to call someone an abuser of any type, that person is probably *also* disgusted by whatever horrible shit you're accusing them of. as someone that hates these things as much as you do in order to attack someone for them: what do you think it's like to have complete strangers think that about you? how many eggshells would you walk on if random people thought so little of you that they were ok doing this?
it's mean. it's heinous, cruel bullying, and if you genuinely think you are not doing it from a place of transmisogyny or hatefuk bias over the victims' identity, then you need to understand that that's not an excuse. "i didn't even know she was trans" ok, it was still mean to call her a pedophile with 200 of your closest friends in public. "im trans so it can't be transphobia" ok it was still mean to assume someone was endorsing abuse when they were talking about being accused of abuse. "i didn't see the post where she said it was a joke" ok it was still mean to actively harass someone without bothering to look into the full context.
at the end of the day, yes, obviously I still think you're all transmisogynist assholes who are clearly willing to gang up on a woman who has nothing to do with your problems simply because she dared to speak on them. i think you're bigoted and unwilling to examine that if it means giving up your vitriol against someone who doesn't like your favorite video game or whatever excuse of the week. but like even if you were just doing it for love of the hate game, it's fucking weird heinous shit and i hope you're happy having that be a central part of your life
to be clear: im not transfemme and if I'm overstepping or talking over anyone please let me know. im not speaking for anyone's actual experiences except my own, which is the experience of being angry at how much literal bullying and harassment I see excused on this so-called progressive queer blogging website
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gougarfem · 1 month
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so many of the trans community's arguments fall apart when questioned but nobody is willing to sit down and follow through a conversation about it. for example, i can't count the number of times i've been told i need to educate myself and talk to trans people and then i won't be such a hateful terf. when i say to these people, i am educated, i came out as trans ten years ago, i'm on testosterone, i live the same reality as a transgender man - i still don't believe you can change your biology, and i still think men and women are socialised differently and gender is a patriarchal construct, and changing your gender only serves to reinforce that construct - what now? now that you understand i'm like you, i'm not hateful, i just don't share your beliefs, do my opinions hold some validity? invariably i get blocked, told that i must be lying about my own dysphoria, or branded some flavour of -phobic. if the trans community wants to be taken seriously they need to address their collective fear of being questioned or divulging from the acceptable narrative. they need to be able to have conversations where the other person uses 'incorrect' language or questions something that should be a god-given truth (ie. trans women are women) without shutting that person down or deflecting with accusations of hatred and transphobia. i am yet to find a single trans person willing to sit down and talk to me and defend their own views in a reasonable manner - instead, i get accused of things they assume radical feminists do and believe (wanting trans people dead, hating gnc women, upholding racist beauty standards), receive personal attacks on myself and often my disability and ethnicity, or most commonly just get blocked. i believe anyone is entitled to hold any opinion, but when you're demanding everyone else adhere to that opinion you need to be able to defend it, be open to criticism and be able to explain exactly why you believe what you do without using roundabout logic. do better.
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fancywordology · 7 months
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This is a reply I saw a transwoman make on post of a question by a transwoman. It’s a side that a lot of people who are LGBT allies don't see. Many people who have been trans for many years now are feeling rejected by either side. I've seen more and more people who are talking about this. It's sad and these people deserve a listen. I've even heard some people who are more afraid than they have been before of the uprising of people against trans people due to the unrest that "activists" have caused (this is in their own words, don't shoot the messenger).
There are actual trans people who are being called both transphobic and being called predators on each side. It's just not right.
Called transphobic for challenging the idea that trans women are women, for example. Some believe trans women/men are trans women/men as a separate entity from cis women/men in terms of experience and biology and don't see this as a disadvantage. Of course, they should still be seen as women/men in their daily lives and many shouldn’t have to identify as “trans” openly when it’s not necessary. This is something to think on as trans people still need a safe space too.
*again, don't shoot the messenger. These aren't my beliefs. I'm just stating what these people are saying and that I believe they shouldn't be invalidated by either side, assuming their reasoning is sound. I'm encouraging myself and others to think more critically as I always do on my page.
Furthermore, while I fully understand how many think this sort of thinking will cause those who oppose trans people overall to invalidate or attack trans people, I don't think it's a reason to block out the voices of trans people who maintain these thoughts and feelings. If they feel it would cause them to be more unsafe, I doubt they would express these thoughts. I know this isn't a one size fits all situation, so please don't think of this in an "all or nothing" sort of way.
I’m open to listening to trans people who have different ideas and perspectives moreso than someone who isn’t trans, even if they’re an “ally”.
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spacelazarwolf · 2 years
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“trans men have male privilege!!!!!!!!!!”
let’s take a look.
here’s some examples of male privilege from an article i found:
“you’re not said to be going against your gender’s “natural instinct” or your role in society by not having children.”
trans men are barred from gender affirming care, often on the basis that people think we should be having babies. also there are many groups of people who can get pregnant who deal with the opposite, who are encouraged not to have children or even forcibly sterilized.
“the media, popular sex advice, and normative definitions of sex focus primarily on your pleasure, especially if you’re cisgender.”
i have literally never once seen trans men mentioned in the media in regards to sex advice or positivity, and the fact the author tagged on that “especially if you’re cisgender” shows me they have never in their life spoken to a trans man.
“school sex ed, religious values, and other pervasive sources of sexual norms don’t treat your gender as more dirty, impure, and undesirable for losing your virginity.”
except they do, because most of us grew up assumed to be or forced to be girls, so we heard and internalized all this along with the cis girls, with the added element of “being trans is morally wrong and dirty and disgusting.”
“most pornography is made with your gender in mind (and it creates some pretty damaging ideas about women and other genders).”
there is very, very, very little pornography made with trans men in mind, and the stuff that is is made for chasers.
“you can be open about enjoying sex without people feeling automatically entitled to have sex with you.”
we actually can’t, because of our “lifestyle of degeneracy” and even the most woke cis people wring their hands when it comes to the question of sex with trans men. not to mention the constant harassment we receive from cis people who insist that they’re not transphobic while making it very clear that they think trans men’s bodies are disgusting and they would never in a million years sleep with us.
“you can make changes to your appearance like a haircut or dye without assumptions that you’re doing it for men.”
every change a trans man makes is put under a microscope. we are assumed to be doing it to “pass”, aka..... doing it for men, and other cis people.
“products like viagra exist with the aim of helping cisgender men maintain their sex lives as they get older, and social norms congratulate you for doing so. there is far less support for women to continue being sexual beings as they age.”
i guess you just forgot trans men exist with this one.
“you can be expressive about your sexuality in conversation, art, music, and more, without people accusing you of ‘using your body to get by’.”
nope. our art is suppressed, and when it’s not, it is under an intense amount of scrutiny, with people often saying that the only reason it’s successful is because we’re trans, not because it’s good art. and god forbid the art is about being trans.
“you can participate in kink, BDSM, and other alternative sexual practices without being judged as a “slut” or facing assumptions that you’re not in control of your own sexual choices.”
did we forget about the fact that people call trans people sexual deviants? or that there are people on this website who stalk and sexually harass trans men for their private sex lives?
“you’re less likely to be the target of street harassment. the majority of women have experienced street harassment in their lives, and most of the men who do are queer or gender non-conforming.”
so we’re just admitting that we consider white cishet men to be the owners of manhood? 
“you can turn down a date without worrying about being verbally attacked, physically assaulted, or even killed.”
nope, most of us face the exact same bullshit, but with an added element of transphobia.
“you’re less likely to experience intimate partner violence.”
false again. we experience incredibly high rates of intimate partner violence, again with an added element of transphobia and exacerbated by the fact we are economically disenfranchised, leading to higher likelihoods of financial abuse.
“you’re less likely to be raped, especially if you never go to prison.”
trans men actually have higher rates of rape than any other demographic.
“you’re less likely to be homeless as a result of intimate partner violence. Half of all homeless women and children in the US are fleeing intimate partner violence.”
trans men are more likely to be homeless than cis women, and are more likely to be turned away from domestic violence shelters because of their appearance and gender.
“you can enjoy partying without people blaming your “lifestyle” if you’re sexually assaulted.”
do i really have to explain why saying trans men won’t be blamed for our “lifestyle” is incorrect?
“doctors are more likely to take you seriously when you tell them your symptoms.”
trans men face higher rates of medical neglect and healthcare avoidance because of that medical neglect than cis women because we face both medical misogyny and medical transphobia.
“while medical research often ignores women and other genders, you get the benefits like research focusing on the heart attack symptoms you’re more likely to experience.”
again, just forgetting trans men exist.
“you’re less likely to have your physical illness symptoms attributed to psychological factors. For instance, when men and women with identical symptoms mention stress, doctors are more likely to overlook a woman’s symptoms of heart disease.”
incorrect, we often face the same medical neglect as cis women, with, again, an added element of transphobia. for example, doctors will often completely disregard our actual issues and just blame it on the testosterone if we are on hrt to the point we literally have a specific name for it: trans broken arm syndrome. 
“you can show your nipples in public, and are less likely to be harassed overall for showing some skin – even when women in public are using breasts for breastfeeding, they can be subject to harassment.”
do i really have to explain why trans men, whether they’ve had top surgery or not, can’t safely be shirtless in public?
“you can easily enjoy sports with athletes of your gender, as men’s sports get more airtime and promotion than women’s sports.”
there are very, very few athletes who are trans men, and it’s difficult for trans men to join men’s sports in the first place because cis men will often become violent if the trans man is better at the sport than they are.
“you can use the internet without being harassed.”
HAH.
“your gender is more represented in film, with women making up 12% of protagonists, 29% of major characters, and 30% of speaking characters in the top 100 grossing films.”
i can count on hand the number of trans men i’ve seen on the big screen.
“you don’t have politicians primarily of another gender making laws to control your gender’s bodies.”
again, HAH.
“there are more lawmakers of your gender determining the rules we all have to live by. for instance, women make up not even 20% of congress.”
according to a study done by an associate at harvard, during the year the study was done, there were 36 transgender people running for government positions. only 6 of them were trans men.
“you can have strong political opinions without people calling you a “feminazi” or judging you for being “opinionated.”
trans men get crucified on social media and in real life day in and day out for simply saying we have a right to exist.
“as a parent, you get more professional opportunities – avoiding the “motherhood penalty” that hurts women’s careers if they have children.”
don’t even know where to start with the cisnormativity. anyway trans men can be birth parents and face a shit ton of discrimination for it.
“you have a lower risk of living in poverty. 1 in 7 women and 4 in 10 single-mother families are poor, with the poverty rate for native american, black, and latina women at almost double the rate for white women.”
trans men have a higher risk of poverty than cis women, especially if they are not white or are disabled.
“you can put little time into your appearance without a negative impact on your work life, like having people believe you’re unprofessional or not put together.”
trans men have to agonize over tiny details about our appearance in order to gain a tiny amount of respect from cis people. this includes in the workplace.
“you can spend less on products to maintain your “professional” appearance. women are expected to spend more on clothing, accessories, and beauty products, even when they’re earning less.”
trans men have to spend thousands of dollars on surgeries and hrt, new clothing, makeup, other things to help us pass. if we don’t do that, or don’t want to do that, then we are subject to an immense amount of scrutiny.
“if you’re never promoted, it’s not because of your gender.”
lmao.
“you’re not expected to put in unpaid emotional labor, like maintaining office harmony, in addition to your work duties. people don’t believe that your gender is just more suited to this often unrecognized and uncompensated work.”
trans people are often expected to put in an incredible amount of emotional labor in the workplace, especially if they are out, and even then our workplaces aren’t always safe. it’s why we have higher rates of unemployment than cis people.
“you aren’t raised to believe your gender is inherently more delicate or weak with phrases like “you throw like a girl.”
more cisnormativity.
“as you’re growing up, you have more positive role models of your gender to choose from in media, history books, fiction, and more.”
cisnormativity 2.0. i didn’t even know trans men existed until i was well into adulthood.
“If you’re religious, you can find a place of worship that doesn’t treat your gender as inferior. for instance, feminist christian churches exist, but in many areas, the only options for worship are churches that follow patriarchal traditions.”
not only is this christonormative, but also ignores the fact that most if not all religious spaces are either not welcoming or actively hostile to trans people, including trans men.
also, most of these examples don’t take into account intersectionality but that’s not surprising.
in conclusion:
begging y’all to use a single fucking brain cell.
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animentality · 10 months
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Please stop intentionally strawmanning transphobes it's actually so bad for trans people
I'm not straw manning transphobes, they're clowning in MY inbox and in my posts, lol.
You think I dragged those arguments out of my ass?
Terfs call me a dress wearing pedophile every time I so much as suggest trans people don't deserve the shit they get.
That's why I make a post saying that to terfs, wearing a dress is somehow shameful or embarrassing for a "man."
Because for some fucking reason, they're just convinced all trans women are just "men wearing dresses" and they're all pedophiles.
The fuck are you doing, assuming I'm the one who's attacking terfs just for fun, lol?
Anything I've ever said about terfs came from some bullshit they SENT ME.
Or commented on an otherwise random post about how gender is fluid.
This fucking ask, man...
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josephthropp · 3 months
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Breaking the social media hiatus to say how disheartening the whole chuggaaconroy situation. Not for his sake, because fuck him, but for the people he abused that had to face abuse from people who formed a paradoxical relationship with chuggaaconroy to the extent that they will excuse literally anything he does. I can't even feel that sympathetic with them because I was in a similar situation of liking his content as a kid who liked seeing another autistic creator talk about my interests, but that didn't develop into me forming a one-sided relationship where I assumed I knew things about him. I understood he carefully manufactured a specific personality for presenting via social media, as all creators do. As such, it wasn't impossible for to think he did the awful things he did because I knew I didn't actually know him. People are continuing to act like he's not responsible for what he did, though, even after multiple different people come out with evidence about what's he's been doing over the course of over a decade, and with women and girls as young as 15. That's only the people we know about, too. The worst factor to me is that those stories were corroborated by several people after the initial remarks of Lady Emily, who spoke up because she saw that the way people were idolizing him was the reason he was able to get away with what he was doing for so long. People acted like he was so positive and wholesome, and therefore let him get away with things that were the opposite. It's doubly awful that people then accused her of trying to take him down specifically because of his autism, trying to make this some sort of anti-ableist crusade when she is also autistic, and therefore fully aware that his autism was not an excuse for his behavior. Still, even as her stories have been corroborated by, again, MULTIPLE people, there are still those who continue to act like that fact isn't relevant. They'll cop to the fact that he abused those other people, but then still dismiss and dehumanize Lady Emily. That's really ironic considering that, in masaeanela's recount of her experience, she mentioned not speaking up about the issues prior because she didn't want to rock the boat and put herself at the mercy of chuggaaconroy's fans attacking her. It's sad how understandable that assumption ended up being. Even when you come out about an experience you faced at the hands of a popular YouTuber, one corroborated by multiple other women, you can still be called a liar, a bitch, a sadist, and so much worse. We all know why, too. The fact that an autistic trans woman is getting so much more scrutiny than other women who have spoken up about this is honestly very painful to see as someone who is trans, autistic, and who has experienced this same abuse.
Please understand what your favorite YouTubers are; strangers. You do not know them, and they do not know you. You are only ever seeing a carefully maintained facade they chose to present to an audience via scripts and editing. If you can't hold them accountable for the bad things they did, how can you expect other people to hold everyday nobodies accountable too
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redditreceipts · 25 days
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I read your pinned post and was wondering, when you say you support dysphoric transitioned people as long as they don't use opposite sex spaces, what are your feelings on trans people who are "stealth"? Either for safety reasons or convenience or what have you. I'm new to radfem tumblr and am still forming opinions myself.
hey :) so this is an interesting question.
I think first of all, there should be some kind of legislation that takes away civil rights from sex offenders. Sex offenders, for example, should be prohibited from going into so-called "vulnerable spaces" like changing rooms and bathrooms (for any sex), places with a lot of children etc. This should also be supervised closely, of course. That would prevent males who are sex offenders from going into women's spaces at all. (Sex offenders also shouldn't be allowed to transition imo)
Secondly, I think that there are two types of sex-segregated spaces. One I would call the kind of space where you can choose to go or not to go, like for example a convention for lesbians, a gay bar for only gay men, a women's only event etc. There is no good reason in my opinion for a transgender person, stealth or not, to go to any of those events for the sex that they do not belong to. You can freely choose to not go to a lesbian's event as a straight trans-identified male, so I would assume that it isn't for you and you can go to another open event instead of going into another person's space.
But there is also the second type of sex-segregated space; the type of space where you can't just choose to not go. This would be things like public bathrooms, prisons, changing rooms etc. And there, I think that we should work on creating third spaces for people who are transitioning, like single-stall bathrooms or changing rooms, or an extra section in the men's prison for men who are likely to be attacked by other men (like gay men or transitioning males). So what should be done in the meantime? 1. we have to work on the main problem here, which is male violence. There has to be a legal system in place that consequently punishes males who attack transwomen because they don't want them in their restrooms 2. there has to be a more realistic concept of "passing". I see mtfs on reddit all the time talking on how much they love passing, but then I click on their profiles and they don't even remotely pass 😭
So okay, after these points have been adressed, I think that a person should use the space that causes the least amount of upset. I don't think that there is a perfect response because in this society, there is still a lot of bigotry and male violence.
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xxlovelynovaxx · 3 months
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Since we're doing controversial opinions:
If your external identity is different from your internal identity, I think that's fine.
If you want your external identity to match your internal identity, I think that's fine.
I'm a transhumanist. I believe in total bodily autonomy and people being able to alter their bodies to the extent that will hopefully be physically possible one day in the future.
Whatever your identity is, I will believe you. It doesn't matter if you were born that way or not, if you became that way or are trying to become that way.
If you feel you "want to be" an identity that causes me distress and suffering, more power to you. Maybe I can trade you for one I could cope with better lol.
It's not bad to "want to" be an identity if that identity is bad, and saying only people who already are that identity the "right" way can feel that way is just saying that people who don't have a choice can SETTLE for accepting their own identity.
You're not some "privileged predator invading real [identity] spaces", whether your external identity is actually privileged or not, in the same way that neither trans women nor trans men, or neither endogenic nor tulpagenic systems, are not invading "real" women's or system's spaces.
The experience of individuals who, for whatever reason, have a disconnect between their bodies and sense of self, from therians to people with BIID to more, is not identical to those whose bodies match, but both are marginalized. This makes "privilege" and "oppression" far more complicated, much in the way marginalized gender experiences do.
I don't trust anyone who is against bodily autonomy or assumes that genuinely held identities are "harmful" or "in bad faith" and use recycled bigotry to justify your reasoning. You are not safe if you stop accepting and start attacking whoever is considered acceptable to attack or that has an identity you haven't even bothered to try to understand (not that you need to understand to accept).
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transmascrage · 2 years
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Radfems and TERFs have a skewed sense of how morality works, and it naturally leads to racist, antisemitic, and ableist beliefs (TW for discussion of antisemitism in particular).
Radfem ideology creates a sense of "sisterhood" around having the same genitalia but at the same time rejects anyone who looks different externally.
I've seen a lot of radfems and TERFs attack trans men and go straight for their looks, stuff like (verbatim) "Why do TIFs all have a moon face and goofy-ass glasses?" or all those memes of how trans people supposedly look (dyed hair, fat, pattern baldness, patchy beard, ugly clothes, you get the idea).
And of course, they do this with, and mostly, towards transfems.
The radfem idea is that men are ugly and evil, and women are beautiful and good.
When someone breaks that mold by being, for example, an ugly woman (in their eyes of course) they assume she's trans. She must be, only men are ugly! 
But then they'll also attack transmascs because we're making ourselves ugly. When they say testosterone is poisoning us, they mean our thoughts but also our pure bodies, making us ugly.
I think it's safe to say that radfems attach morality to beauty, just like old movies and stories and fairytales where the main character is a beautiful girl and the villain is an ugly old person.
(Those were also the movies that made their characters antisemitic caricatures by giving them big noses and a lust for gold and a tendency to conspire. Coincidence? 
Maybe...
but I wouldn't be surprised if some trans Jewish people got antisemitic comments from TERFs...ahem ahem)
Regardless, this is a very childish way of looking at people. Ugly=evil and beautiful=good. (which, surprise surprise, is also part of a lot of oppression systems in terms of appearances, like antisemitism, racism, and ableism!)
But also anyone who looks ugly must be my enemy and my people are all beautiful and pure...sound familiar? God, it makes me sick how much they're like Nazis.
I don't think anyone is surprised that terfs and radfems are superficial people, it's a pretty simple thing to spot.
But the fact that they really reason like the movie Barbie Princess and the Pauper where Barbie=pretty and good and the bad guy=ugly and bad really puts in perspective how delusional they are.
Back to my original point, radfems and terfs try to push a sense of "we're all this together because we all have a uterus so you should stand with us against men who have the Evil Penis" but in reality have the same logic as middle school bullies who'll pick on your looks first thing.
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drbased · 9 months
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Another Takedown: We're with the big boys, now!
So I happened to spy a copy of the International Socialism journal, issue 157 published in Winter 2018. On the front cover there is a rainbow trans symbol and the title of one of the chapters: Marxism, feminism and transgender politics by Sue Caldwell. I thought wow, this is it, this a defense of genderism within a socialist framework. This'll be my undoing, finally I'll be able to recognise that my terfism is wrong. This isn't randos on tumblr anymore. So, I buy it, turn to page 25, and begin my journey.
And gyns, if you've read those randos on tumblr, I can assure you that there is nothing new here. I'm going to take apart this whole thing. So this is gonna be a long one, folks.
In August 2017 Donald Trump tweeted that transgender people1 were no longer welcome in the military because they are a “burden” due to “tremendous medical costs and disruption”.2 This was the latest in a series of attacks on transgender people which include attempts to overturn legislation that allows people to use the toilet for their preferred gender. Transgender people face the threat of violent attack; 2017 is on course to see the highest recorded number of killings of transgender people in the United States.3 In the UK transphobic hate crime has tripled in the last five years, while prosecution rates have dropped and transgender people report lack of trust in the police. More than a third of transgender employees say they had to leave their job due to discrimination in 2016.4 A survey released by Stonewall reports that eight out of ten trans school and college pupils had self-harmed and 45 percent had tried to take their own lives.5
1 I am using trans or transgender as an umbrella term to denote people whose gender identity does not match their birth sex, and this includes non-binary and gender fluid identities. When I use trans man or trans woman I am referring to people who have transitioned from female to male (ftm) or male to female (mtf) respectively, regardless of whether they have had any medical intervention. I am aware that these terms are contested and that meanings may change over time. 2 Thanks to Alex Callinicos, Joseph Choonara, Gareth Jenkins, Laura Miles, Sheila McGregor, Judith Orr and Camilla Royle for their comments on this article in draft. 3 Human Rights Campaign, 2017. 4 Yeung, 2016. 5 Weale, 2017.
Hmm. So, right off the back, I think it's a bit of a reach to describe 'banning from military' as an 'attack' on transgender people. I mean, first of all, you're a socialist journal. You're supposed to be materialists, right? Not being made to fight in a war is saving someone from an attack. I know this is a nitpick, but this is what we do, here: we deconstruct narratives and analyse how rhetoric is employed to achieve an affect. A socialist journal uncritically parroting liberal, egalitarian rhetoric? Love to see it.
Now, the '2017 is on course to see the highest reorded number of killings of transgender people in the United States'. So, first of all, kinda curious there's no number used here, right? Why not use it? This is clearly, off the bat, a persuasive piece, so really go for it. The statistics and facts are on your side, right? So what's that really hard-hitting number? 29. Up from 23.
'Some of these cases involve clear anti-transgender bias. In others, the victim’s transgender status may have put them at risk in other ways, such as forcing them into homelessness.'
Hmm. Look, I'm not going to belabour this point, because it's been done by better people elsewhere. Statistically, that's not a significantly high number, even for the transgender population. And it's nothing compared to the murder of women and girls in the same year. But let's talk about what's not being said, here:
Considering how little it takes for a person to ID as trans, there's no reason to assume these people were presenting in any way that makes them a target.
To belabour that point, you guys know we still live in a homophobic society, right? You guys know that homophobic violence still exists? How can you be sure that the motivations have anything to do with gender and not sexuality, considering how often those two things end up being linked?
As better women than me have pointed out, black transgender women in prostitution have the highest murder rate. That's a lot of overlapping risk factors. And in this statistic, a good number of these are people of colour, specifically black people.
Including killings of transgender men is really, really icky, considering how we already have an epidemic of violence against women. But it makes up the numbers. Because, for all the supposed compassion for trans people, this is more of a numbers game than anything else; a desperation to prove the unprovable. And even then, when you make the bar to entry this low, the numbers still aren't particularly powerful enough, so instead they're obfuscated with a really lazy 'highest recorded number of killings'.
A similar rhetorical tactic is used with 'In the UK transphobic hate crime has tripled in the last five years'. So, I couldn't find the source for this one, but you know what I did find?
The law recognises five types of hate crime on the basis of: Race Religion  Disability Sexual orientation  Transgender identity
HOLY
SHIT
BATMAN
MISOGYNY ISN'T EVEN CONSIDERED A HATE CRIME IN MY COUNTRY???????? Transgender people have only been in the public eye for less than a decade whereas FIFTY PERCENT OF THE POPULATION, A POPULATION KNOWN TO BE VIEWED AS PROPERTY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF RECORDED HUMAN HISTORY, DON'T HAVE A RECORD OF HATE CRIMES AGAINST US IN THIS COUNTRY?
ARE
YOU
FUCKING KIDDING ME????
OK, WE NEED TO STOP RIGHT HERE, I'M DONE BEING COY.
Is there anything we can do about this? Is there anyone in the UK who knows anything about the law who can help get misogyny recognised as a hate crime?
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coulsonlives · 5 months
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Mkayy, I just saw the most insane post about a Trolls character make the rounds. As a queer person in fandom, that's a perfect example of how some people in fandom really gotta chill! Especially when most of those people are like in their early 20s. I have no horse in this race but even I think it's insane.
So this post said 'floyd and veneer' (two Trolls characters I assume, I don't watch Trolls lol) are 'gay coded, and to stop shipping floyd with women' because of that. Because 'representation is important'.
Really?? Are we really gonna do this virtue-signally, instant outrage BS for a millionth time??
This is a kid's show, the canon will literally always be there regardless of random fans changing things in the background! It doesn't affect representation, not where it matters. And if you act like it does, that's how you end up with incidents where gay, trans, and queer people write/draw oodles of gay characters, the same as they are in canon, but as soon as they change aspects of one hot-button character (for example floyd and veneer), maybe because they just don't wanna write/draw every single character as queer, people explode and harass em, because they think it's a big insult for representation and they're a horrible person and how dare they be homophobic etc etc. Meanwhile the fic in question has like 3 kudos and a comment.
Not to mention, if you need to educate people on why a character is gay coded, regardless of whether they are or not, that's just admitting to the fact there will be people who see them otherwise. An earring on the right ear? A het person will just see it as an earring!! This shit doesn't stand out to everyone. If you see it, great, but step off and stop attacking people for not seeing it. Nobody has a responsibility to look up details of a character to ensure/confirm it isn't symbolic of the queer community before their brain goes 'ooohh i ship these two characters!'
Is it disappointing someone changed a character who's canonically gay or gay coded or whatever? Yep! Is it worth screaming about and creating a hostile fandom space over, where people need to walk on eggshells? No.
No no no.
Fanfiction is transformative for a mfing reason. Fandom is supposed to encourage creativity. Don't be a dick to people. Oml.
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The problem is that you're queerphobic asf and then call anyone who disagrees with you a TERF even if they are transfemme or just in general trans themselves.
You're queerphobic, actually.
A massive part of what queerphobia is, is not understanding someone's identity and choosing to be reactionary and fight someone over your assumptions on what that means rather than ask them why they feel that way. Which you are demonstrating right now by saying whatever word vomit this shit was rather than "can you please explain how being a bi lesbian works?" Queerphobia also heavily involves not being willing to understand someone and their identity. If you were willing to understand, you would, because there is no good reason to not support mspec lesbians that exists, and the only way a person could be unsupportive of bi lesbians is if they're ignorant and don't understand yet, or if they're going out of their way to be gold stars by excluding SAM-using lesbians. The lack of understanding you are demonstrating now simply by saying we're queerphobic for being queer in a way you do not yet understand.
You see the label of bi lesbian. You do not care to inquire. You do not seek to understand. You assume "mspec/bi always includes attraction to men" and forget your history that proves lesbian wasn't ever intended to be exclusive, and sappho of lesbos herself was fucking bi, and so you attack us and call us lesbophobic based on your assumptions when all we did was understand our history better than you and not misgender every nonbinary person who doesn't identify whatsoever as a woman.
Not to mention, you aren't allowed to call yourself queer if you think the rules of labels are strict. They're not. They're loose and they're meant to overlap. That's the point of being queer, to break the rules. You are queerphobic because you are going against the fundamental principles of queerness itself. You have no right to use th word of the weirdos if you shun us. You have no claim to the label for the rule breakers if you think lesbians can't be men or like men because that's "breaking the rules."
It is also horribly queerphobic to be bilesbophobic because bilesbophobia overlaps with many flavors of queerphobia; biphobia, transphobia and enbyphobia, specifically, as well as broader queerphobia (the hatred of and discrimination against identities that are queer. Even those who support SOME queer people can be queerphobic.)
The TERF/Transphobia claims come from several facts
1. The ONE and ONLY reason that the lesbian label currently tends to describe EXCLUSIVE attraction to women and elsegender people is because of TERFS. TERFS decided women who liked men couldn't be lesbians. TERFS decided men were evil. They also tried to get rid of you, dear transfem anon, and both nonbinary lesbians and butches, for being too close to manhood. They didn't succeed, but they did manage to push mspec lesbians and transmasc/trans man lesbians out, and make the label exclusive. These TERFS also tried to separate lesbians from the rest of the queer community. They failed, thankfully.
You are not being called a TERF, but you are being told you are using TERF rhetoric and falling for things TERFS say and TERFS created.
2. Being anti mspec lesbians is the same as hating non-binary people. Even if you are nonbinary yourself, you are hurting yourself and your community. I am a lesbian, exclusively. I have no attraction to men. I am attracted to women and I am attracted to elsegender people. My boyfriend is androgyne, in fact. That is lesbian, but it is bi. You must either say nonbinary people are not included in the lesbian label, making people like me just bi, or that all nonbinary people are women, making me just a lesbian, to not support mspec lesbians. There is no other way to go about it.
3. Multigender people fucking exist. An exclusive lesbian can be attracted to a man if that man is a woman. And if they date, the lesbian could call herself bi or even pan because she's capable of being attracted to all genders, but only if the gender of woman is present.
I am dead certain all your information on bi lesbians is not from bi lesbians. Perhaps you were told it's for lesbians who like trans women. It's not. Or maybe it's because you think we don't accept trans men as real men? We do, we just also accept that sometimes trans men can feel disconnected from cis men and still feel connected to the lesbian label because of their AGAB. It doesn't mean trans men can't be straight. It just means we won't decide for them what label they want to use, if they wanna say that they're straight because they're men who like women or lesbian because historically, transmascs and trans men were accepted in the lesbian community and people who's experiences keep them connected to their AGAB, even if they don't identify with it, will have a different relationship with their labels.
Pipe down. You don't know what you're talking about. I only dignified you with a response to show off my writing abilities to my followers. I don't think you will even read this. I do not care. If you've seen how foolish and queerphobic you were, I'll forgive you, but until then, stay quiet and don't try to tell people things about their identity when you don't understand it and we do. You're arguing with a strawman that you made up and won't listen.
There is nothing queerphobic about acknowledging that you historically belonged in a label. There is nothing queerphobic about using 2 labels because you feel you are in between the two. There is nothing queerphobic about using the split attraction model. There is nothing queerphobic about not misgendering nonbinary people while still not excluding them from the lesbian label. There is nothing queerphobic about breaking rules. There is, however something deeply and inherently queerphobic about not accepting someone's identity simply because it doesn't make sense to you right off the bat. It's not wrong to want to understand before you just accept it, because at least you are open to understanding it, but to call someone queerphobic because you don't understand is exactly what homophobes do, it's exactly what transphobes do, and it's exactly what all queerphobes do.
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There's a big and frankly stupid debate about trans women in sports and how we're supposedly predisposed to win in sports. I'll talk personal experiences rather than some big research. Not that people that hate trans women care for what we say, but I digress.
Prior to being on HRT, my body had a far higher nmol of t than actual cis men. It hovered between 230 and was almost above 250. The dysphoria I felt from that was awful. I was aware that at some point I had the crazy ability to just repeat a physical exercise a bunch and get muscular rapidly. I always avoided arm exercises yet I could lift up fairly heavy things. After starting estrogen, I noticed that I got weaker. After I started taking t blockers, it became significantly more apparent. Groceries of 5-10 kg that became easier to carry around now feel like me trying to carry them in my preteens to early puberty time.
None of this is to say cis women are weaker. Since our bodies are not absolutes and some cis men have lower t and some cis women higher t. But, trans women are likely to be taking some form of t blockers if transitioning. And this does affect our physical strength a lot.
The sports discourse is a fascinating intellectual tool used by actual sexists. It isn't necessarily just transmysogynist in its structure. The core argument made is that women are more physically weak than men. Therefore women need intervention so that they're protected from the physically superior men. It asserts that a patriarchal hierarchy is natural and actually beneficial to women. And I feel like it's this logical tool which tricks people into assuming this is to their benefit. We're nothing but a tool for actual cis men to assert themselves and gain power. So people that use the label feminist yet defend these actions aren't all that feministic. It reminds me of how many issues second wave feminism had in the US due to excluding non white women and lesbians. This isn't real feminism in this case. It gives acknowledgement that men are indeed superior and all feminism amounts to is an idea to beg and seek approval of spaces that men decided for women.
But all I hear is how we, trans women, dominate women's sports. Most of us can't even lift a bag of groceries well, let alone dream of doing this. The other rhetorical reasoning behind this is to belittle and attack our femininity as trans people. Our womanhood is denied while we're also called failed males. And ya know, this rhetorical idea was used by white feminists in the past to deny non-white women too. You're not the defender of women you think you are, if you're not seeking genuine liberation from this garbage gendered system.
But what do I know. I'm just the supposed weak "man" that's also somehow super powerful and superior to cis women. I'm also supposedly having a super imposing male privilege because everything I say is heard and enforced over cis women while people debate my literal right to pee in a public restroom.
Do I feel privileged and mighty? No. And I certainly doubt I can overpower cis women. And to be quite honest, I don't understand why I'm supposed to. I've never understood why men have this idea of domination and aggression. That should hint to you that I'm not a man.
Trans rights. Women's rights. The ghouls that enforce all this suffering can go to hell.
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onyx-got-clowned · 7 months
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it’s Wednesday! You know what that means? Ranting about the Mormon church <3 (i have mutual at 7 and idefk what we’re doing)
Was on the ‘ex Mormon’ tag, and i reminded myself of the whole “strength of the youth” program they had with us that one Sunday, here are some of the rules that are official that i had distaste reading and hearing my peers agree with.
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They had one on abortion, but i couldn’t find it- all i know is that they were saying it was against god’s commandments or some stupid shi
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general conference this year was annoying as all hell, i don’t remember (nor care) who had talked about being celestial, but he kept fucking saying “celestial” and every time i tuned in, I’d hear him say celestial and i was so ready to drive to the fucking conference center and cut the microphone off. Then the next week, of course they have to do the whole after conference lessons, and i found out they had 5 sessions in total?! They always have one for the women, and i hate it.
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Mormon girls are assholes and you cannot change my mind. I’m lucky enough to feel pretty confident in my body, despite having self harm scars- and not fitting their standards of an ideal body type. So whenever these fuckers look at me weird, specifically my scars, i want to scream. Also, there are two girls in the group above me, and they both act hella gay with eachother and when called out or called queer, they start to get offended as if they weren’t just cuddling like a married couple two seconds earlier. Girls camp, my first year- they were literally spooning each other and nobody says jack fucking shit. But the second i DARE hold the hand of my friend who was having a panic attack, my mom gets informed and i get lectured. I’m pretty openly queer, so it’s only an issue because they know who I’m attracted too. Or they assume that, they think i like girls and I’m a lesbian, but I’m literally trans and gay, but like hell I’m going to come clean about that. The only reason i enjoy mutual sometimes, is because i like to sneak off and play piano.
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i used to have a few friends, some girls my age. Then we got into young women’s instead of the activity days class and they all ditched me, well- one did, the others either moved wards or were the age group above me. But every time i open my mouth, I’m instantly treated lowly. I’ve spoken up about this too, to my parents but i can’t talk to them about anything. They protect the Mormon girls all the time, not once trying to understand why I’m upset. I also hate them because they like to judge me specifically, also these other girls who aren’t even fucking Mormon? But one of my leaders brings them to try and convert them into this hell of a cult, which isn’t working btw. But i used to be on the same bus as one of the girls, and she is super annoying, so is the other girl. They swear like a sailor, and i end up getting roped in with getting in trouble because of it. Also the fact i have to look after them and whenever i try and hangout with them, they push me off to the side and judge me.
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there’s still a whole truckload of things i didn’t unpack, but let’s save that for Sunday.
moral of the story? I fucking hate the Mormon church, and it shouldn’t exist. The sexism, blatant homophobia and transphobia is stupid as hell.
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I don’t know where to say this but I’ve been noticing transfems blaming transmascs for ‘siding’ with terfs because they don’t see us as men or when we call out something related to being afab.
I'm assuming your a teenager because I see this idea being said by a lot of young teens on here - so I'll say this as nicely as a can. This transmisogynistic. There isn't a large scary group of transfems who say trans men are 'siding with terfs' because they don't see us as men. There isn't a large scary group of transfems who attack trans men who talk about their relationship with their sex. And acting like there is - is transmisogynistic. Are there some assholes online who do? Yeah. But that's just a very very small amount of people and using a few individual transfem's actions as a way to demonize all transfems is transmisogynistic.
The reason why Transfems say you are siding with TERFs is because you frame your experience around your asab - and only your asab. A lot of things i see transmascs online say are 'related to being afab' are either one of two things. It's either just misogyny (meaning it's stuff trans women experience too and it's not just 'afab people') or it's experiences specific to transmascs (meaning not all 'afab people' experience it.) Maybe think for a second about what other group frames their experiences around them being afab. Yeah.
If I ever get an ask like this again I'm just going to delete it. Don't send me this stuff. Transfems have been the biggest allies to transmascs throughout history. They aren't your enemy.
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