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doomdoomofdoom · 2 months
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i believe the easiest solution to the 'trans people in competitive sports' ""debate"" is simply to stop separating competitions by sex/gender and start separating them by zodiac sign.
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reasonsforhope · 23 days
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"Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) has vetoed a Republican-led ban on transgender high school athletes, saying that such legislation would needlessly harm the mental well-being of trans youth and make the state less safe for LGBTQ+ people. State Republicans reportedly lack the votes to override his veto.
“This type of legislation, and the harmful rhetoric we get by pursuing it, harms LGBTQ Wisconsinites’ and kids’ mental health, emboldens anti-LGBTQ harassment, bullying, and violence, and threatens the safety and dignity of LGBTQ Wisconsinites, especially our LGBTQ kids,” Evers wrote in his veto message.
“I am vetoing this bill in its entirety because I object to codifying discrimination into state statute and the Wisconsin state legislature’s ongoing efforts to perpetuate hateful and discriminatory rhetoric and policies targeting LGBTQ Wisconsinites including our transgender and gender nonconforming kids…. I will veto any bill that makes Wisconsin a less safe, less inclusive, and less welcoming place for LGBTQ people and kids,” Evers added.
He vetoed the bill in a public ceremony while surrounded by trans advocates, Democratic lawmakers, the mayor of Madison and others, NBC News reported.
The bill would have required public, private, and independent charter schools to designate each team by the gender of its participants, and then require participants to play on teams matching the gender listed on their birth certificates.
The bill would have overruled current policies, established in 2015 by the Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association, that allowed trans students to play on sports teams matching their gender identity as long as they provided a personal letter; supporting documentation from parents, teachers, and medical professionals; and proof of any gender-affirming care...
Last September [in 2023], Evers vetoed a Republican-led bill that would’ve banned gender-affirming medical care for minors."
-via LGBTQ Nation, April 2, 2024
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nyxisart · 5 months
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Some little things can give you so much euphoria!
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raynedayys2 · 22 days
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I think it's so interesting that people bring up trans people in sports they ONLY talk about trans women.
What about trans men?
What about nonbinary people?
What about intersex people?
The problem is that they still view trans women as men. They can't wrap their feeble little minds around the fact that gender has, and always will be a construct. And they constantly undermine the fact that a woman could be stronger than a cis man. In nature, every other species acknowledges that women are usually the stronger ones, why can't humans do that?
And if a trans man on T has to compete on a woman's team then what? At that point they usually look like a man, and people in sports have to train so they probably have the strength of a man. Or what about intersex people? They can't be shoved into either box, and they still deserve to play sports if they truly want to.
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cock-holliday · 2 months
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How is this the first I'm finding out about an all-trans hockey team from Boston that formed in 2019???
All members are trans and nb across a spectrum of identity. This is so fucking cool. Team Trans? Hell yeah we are!
Team Instagram
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Biden's Title IX proposal draws criticism in LGBTQ community
Some LGBTQ advocates this week slammed the Biden administration’s proposed revision to Title IX, accusing the president of backtracking on his commitment to protecting transgender young people.
The proposal, released Thursday by the Education Department, would prohibit the adoption of policies that “categorically” ban transgender athletes from school sports teams consistent with their gender identity, rebuking broad bans that have been implemented by 20 states, and counting.
But K-12 schools under the administration’s proposal would still have the leeway to limit transgender athletes’ participation in sports if they determine that including them will undermine competitive fairness or increase the risk of sports-related injuries, a senior Education Department official said Thursday.
“The proposed regulation would give schools flexibility to identify their own important educational objectives,” rather than adopt a one-size-fits-all approach, the official said on a call with reporters.
LGBTQ Americans and their allies have had mixed reactions to the administration’s proposed changes. While some are celebrating the possibility of a new federal civil rights law prohibiting laws that bar transgender students from participating in school sports, others say the proposal is a disappointing departure from prior actions and statements made by the Biden White House in support of equal rights for transgender people.
“State lawmakers take note — discriminating against transgender athletes is wrong and a violation of federal law. This new rule makes that abundantly clear,” said Kelley Robinson, President of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest LGBTQ advocacy group.
Robinson added, however, that the new rule should be updated to clarify that “all transgender students should be presumed eligible to participate in sports consistent with their gender identity.”
“The Biden Administration framed their proposal as a ban on blanket discrimination against trans athletes. But actually it provides guidelines for how schools and universities can ban trans athletes legally,” Imara Jones, the founder and chief executive of TransLash Media, said Friday.
“It’s hard to have a ‘middle ground’ when it comes [to] supporting human rights for trans people, and I can’t see how Joe Biden can straddle the fence here,” she said.
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THANK GOD!
This December a trans teen girl won the regional championship and it caused quite a stir. Especially because it was the region in which I used to dance and compete so quite a few people I knew showed their whole ass. I guess the upside is I now know who the transphobes are.
Anyway, the whole thing was a steaming pile of bullshit because the veil behind which the “protect girls in sports” crowd hide is even thinner. Dancers are only separated by gender in “majors” so in local comps they are only split by age and level. And dancing in the girls category puts you at a severe statistical disadvantage. Girls age groups in my region usually had around 90 dancers, boys had like 9 and would get handed a world qualifying placement by showing up.
Would love to see the mental gymnastics of these folks saw a trans boy win. “That’s an unfair advantage dancing in the smaller boy groups!” “But you just said that AMAB dancers have an advantage over AFAB?”
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thedawnofcrime · 1 year
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To the gender criticals out there, know that when we say “let trans people in sports”, we are not suggesting that we should end the conversation at that. We are suggesting that with the topic of trans people in sports, y’all are not going in the right direction.
You cannot identify womanhood by any given trait or feature, besides the fact that somebody feels like a woman. That is what makes them feel comfortable in society and their bodies.
Not all cis women have uteruses. Not all cis women produce estrogen. Not all cis women have breasts. Not all cis women even have XX chromosomes.
These women are biologically female, and their womanhood should not be defined by arbitrary traits that you assign them. Besides, to imply that they are worthy of womanhood, and trans women are not, is hypocritical.
Gender isn’t just a social construct, it’s the way our brains perceive ourselves and our role in society from birth. You cannot be critical of things that are not subjective concepts. That is called ignorance.
The issue with trans people in sports (and I know there is one) is not that they’re a danger to sports, it’s that the system we compete based on is outdated, and biased towards a very stereotypical type of man and woman.
The solution is not banning a minority from something built for enjoyment, the solution is to abolish the system that they, along with many people outside of the minority, do not fit into.
There is no one-size-fits-all for sports separation, and different sports can be separated in different ways. If your system is built to regulate womanhood, it is not a system of protection, it is a system to oppression. We are all humans, and every day the excuses of “gender ideology” and “gender confusion” become more and more absurd.
Think for yourself. If you were born with something that made you different than other men or women, would you really be okay with everybody excluding you? From children’s soccer teams? From high school basketball practices? From putting in the years of effort to compete in the Olympics? All because you were born “imperfect” by their standards.
This isn’t something I’m willing debate. If you disagree with including minorities in sports, or allowing intersex people to compete, you need to do some long, individual reflection on why you care so much about how limited of a human experience a minority should have. Don’t try to reword yourself into the hero. Use some critical thinking.
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dazzleluminosity · 7 months
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Every day I dream that Elliot Page will make a sequel to Whip-It. Show the world how absolutely goddamn easy trans-inclusivity in sports is, and write a tale of comradery and acceptance for a new generation. You gotta understand, the quarantimes hit roller derby hard. Leagues everywhere are basically a living, breathing bad news bears inspirational sports movie where we are scrambling desperately to rebuild our teams and keep from losing our practice spaces. This movie could save roller derby.
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bismyth-does-shit · 5 months
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Too all the people that say that trans women don’t belong in women’s sports: this is who you want in women’s sports then?
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These guys? They definitely look like they’d have an advantage over women in womens sports, but by your logic, they can’t be in mens sports because they weren’t born guys; they were born girls.
By saying trans women don’t belong in women’s sports, you are also saying trans men don’t belong in mens sports, and by saying you want trans women to compete in men’s sports, you are saying that you want these guys
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To compete in women’s sports.
You sure thats what you want?
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allthegeopolitics · 7 hours
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Wisconsin governor Tony Evers has vetoed a bill “in its entirety” that would have stopped transgender students competing in sports teams consistent with their gender identity. Assembly Bill 377 called on school boards and other relevant bodies to prohibit transgender and non-binary student athletes from competing in teams or events that match their gender identity, leaving them instead to compete in teams consistent with their sex assigned at birth. In an open letter announcing his decision to veto the bill on Tuesday (2 April) , Democrat Evers wrote that not only did the legislation conflict with several anti-discrimination laws but could also undermine federal legislation.
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overexciteddragon · 8 months
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I don't know enough about sports so please correct me if I'm talking out my ass, but I think it makes more sense to separate sports by weight/height class than by gender. "A 200lbs trans woman who underwent testosterone puberty would destroy a 100lbs cis woman who just started kickboxing" yeah??? OBVIOUSLY??, but also, if you put Ronda Rousey in the octagon with Jeremy from accounting she would fucking kill him and use his ribs as toothpicks. Maybe it's not about what kind of puberty you went through, but what your actual body looks like now, what your physicality is NOW... or maybe I'm just full of shit idk
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sapphia · 4 months
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it’s just been announced that the New Zealand government will ban transgender women from publicly-funded sports
i’m too fucking angry. i’m shaking. over my fucking dead body they will.
or better yet, over winston peters. i’ll wring his scrawny little neck myself
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geekysteven · 10 months
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If the concern about "fairness in sports" with the trans panic were valid, you'd see a pattern of coaches trying to recruit trans athletes to their teams to get an edge.
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swagtron3001 · 12 days
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I have such a love hate relationship with sports as a trans person.
Ive played around 5ish sports competivley for around 8-9 years up untill freshman year of highschool and at the time I always hated it, not because of the actual sport but because I always felt so out of place.
My brother (cis man) plays a lot of sports still and it's such a bitter sweet experience knowing that can never and has never been able to be me. There is such a stigma with trans people playing sports, and even if I still played my area isn't from my experiences the safest if I played on the boys or girls teams
it's such an incredibly social thing too, especially in teams sports. Going to games is a huge part of that too, in the fall there's nothing really to do on Friday except go to football games because it's become such a big thing for anyone within my age range. I'm not only missing out on exercise but also social experiences that cis people don't have to feel ostracized by like how I do.
Keep trans people in sports, not necessarily for everyone, but people that do want to be involved shouldn't have to be pushed away from experiences cis people just get to have for something as (mostly) little as being trans.
We are not just trans, we are human too.
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jk-scrolling · 8 months
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The problem with trans women in women's pro sports is the refusal of spectators to see them as women, and everything else about the debate is fine details that can be worked out by individual governing authorities.
What's the point of spectator sports? It's entertainment. It's spectacle. It's letting the audience feel a sense of vicarious struggle and victory as they root for their chosen team or athlete. And the identification with the chosen team or athlete is naturally stronger when the spectator feels there's some important commonality. A gender, or race, or region, or even a class background.
Whatever other lame excuses they offer, that's the real reason men complain about how "boring" women's sports are: they can't identify with women athletes the way they do with men. You only hear this from the most sexist men, the men who consider women the most alien and the least worth trying to understand.
Cis woman spectators who can't see trans women's excellence as women's excellence can't feel a vicarious sense of victory when trans women succeed. They can't see trans women's records as expanding possibility for all women. They can't feel inspired and empowered by trans women's success the way they would by a cis woman's success. It's a simple empathy failure.
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