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jaguarys · 7 months

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On the note of the snippet I posted. Ultimately what makes me go batshit insane about the Sith is that it's truly not about the magic of it all. It's about people being hurt and hurting others in turn.

What it is to become a Sith is to enmesh yourself, forever, in pain. It's at the very forefront of the doctrine, but even ignoring the mentality of it, on the basest level it is about physical and emotional pain. In agreeing to be an apprentice, you're agreeing to years of torture. You're agreeing to anything your master chooses to subject you to; they themselves have suffered as you have and they're chomping at the bit to inflict it upon you too. They have convinced themselves this pain has made them strong, but it has only made them vindictive.

Becoming a Sith is not about becoming powerful. It's about surviving the sheer horror of the training itself and convincing yourself survival is the same as control, that it's the same as power. It's about taking the seething, burning hatred you feel for the person who has tortured you and passing it onto your student, and repeating this for centuries. It's about licking your own wounds, not only the physical but those of centuries of disgraced Sith before you, hiding in the shadiest corners of the galaxy with no one but the person you hate most and believe you owe everything to.

The Sith are fundamentally pathetic, fundamentally impotent, fundamentally miserable, and it simply cannot be extricated from the mess of it all

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im-yotsu · 3 months

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<<Sidious moved back into the room to take a closer look at Plagueis. Then, after a long moment, he returned to the window and pulled the drapes aside. His spirit soared, but briefly.

Something was shading his sense of triumph: a vague awareness of a power greater than himself. Was it Plagueis reaching out from the far side of death to vex him? Or was the feeling a mere consequence of apotheosis?>>

<<(...)It wasn’t until he arrived in Theed and learned of Darth Maul’s defeat at the hands of the Jedi in a power-generator station that he understood in part the reason for the sense of loss and profound solitude he had experienced following the murder of Plagueis.>>

Darth Plagueis, by James Luceno

Maul is beaten by Obi Wan at the same time Palpatine kills his master in legends canon, it's a cool detail I wish they'd keep.

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#star wars #my art #darth maul #darth sidious #darth plagueis #palpatine #the clone wars

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skywalkerrtno · 2 months

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I'm gonna die now.

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aldo-n-canp · 3 months

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Oil painting in progress

#star wars #my art #oilpainting #oil #sheev palpatine #hego damask #darth sidious #darth plagueis

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welcome-to-the-holonet · 2 years

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I like to imagine that Palpatine has two different accounts, one for Sheeve Palpatine and one for Darth Sidious. I don't know why Darth Sidious would need a holonet account but I think it would be funny if one time he accidentally posted something on the wrong account and ratted himself out and than tried to play it off like his account got hacked or something

I’ve had this in my ask box way to long and I finally made it

#star wars #social media #twitter #prequel trilogy #mace windu #sheev palpatine #darth sidious #the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise #darth plagueis

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facts-i-just-made-up · 8 months

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Have you heard the story of Darth Plagueis the wise?

No, I've asked every Jedi I know and not a single one will tell me.

#darth plagueis #star wars #revenge of the sith #unreality

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iszapizza · 5 months

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it’s my birthday today!

#Isza rambles #birthday post #star wars #darth vader #I can finally hear about the tragedy of darth plagueis the wise #I wish I had a vader plushie in real life #cries

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identityflawed · 5 months

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the star wars: maul novel is some of the most twistedly entertaining shit i've ever read. you mean to tell me that sidious used FISH as a metaphor for him and maul and then made him eat his representative self ALIVE after destroying the only thing that maul could've considered his friend RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.

...what do you MEAN sidious saw a (CHILD) maul flinch after getting sprayed with dinko venom, waited for the boy's guard to lower, and then filled his room with DINKOS TO KILL HIM WHILE HE SLEPT

wha... what do you mean... sidious took maul outside for the first time and then pelted him with rocks for not seeing their value as weapons. HIS FIRST TIME OUTSIDE BTW!!

wh..,nfhnsh..., what do you mnhean... sidious took everything maul loved even remotely in the galaxy and either twisted it, killed it, or had maul kill it. he made of a young, curious boy a monster and a warrior, a frothing dog on the leash devoted only to him and him alone, begging for scraps from the plate he and plagueis shared without maul ever knowing that he was nothing more than a missile, directed at a target and causing nothing but hatred self-destruction in his wake.

#fave star wars novel #diabolical!!#darth sidious #sheev palpatine #darth plagueis #darth maul #talzin cameo went hard btw big forehead girls represent #deenine deserved better #star wars: maul #maul was literally so attached to his master that he felt BAD for wanting to kill jedi because it meant sidious' plans would have to fail

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gffa · 7 months

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i was talking to a friend last night about anakin kind of being born of the force, but they told me that in one book this was done by darth plagueis in the manner that palpatine describes in the opera scene. is this actually true and canon or just in legends, cause either way is definitely something

*laughs* All right when I say "ohhhhhh boy", I promise it it is with as much good humor as I can inject into it, but this is running into something that's a much thornier issue than a lot of people want to untangle, though, I see you are probably at least near the same page as I am: That the Star Wars novels are not deeper canon lore than the movies and TV series. They are supplementary canon, they are bonus canon that is the first to get retconned away because it's periphery to the main story. When it comes to Star Wars, the novels are not written by George Lucas and he repeatedly, repeatedly said they were not part of his Star Wars. Now, I'm not your or your friend's mom, I'm not telling you what to do or what your Star Wars is! If you want to include the Darth Plagueis novel in your Star Wars canon, that's great! It's not my place to tell you what is or isn't true for you, only that my point is that as nerd fandoms we're so primed to think that books are a deeper source of lore that we often apply the same logic to Star Wars and it's just not true. The books are often amazing, I love using them to supplement my view of Star Wars when they're well done! But the truth is still that the movies and TV series--even in Disney canon, within their continuity, where Legends doesn't apply--are always, always the deepest part of the canon and the books are an optional bonus that are probably never read by the people making the movies and TV series. So, for memory (it's been awhile since I looked at that section), in the Darth Plagueis novel, Palpatine does imply that he and Plagueis manipulated the midi-chlorians to give Anakin life because they were fucking around with them, but you know it's Palpatine, take him with a grain of salt. (There's also the Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith comic where Palpatine is standing over a pregnant Shmi in a vision that a lot of people took as confirmation, but the author specifically came out and said, no, it wasn't confirmation of that theory, she was already pregnant when Palpatine showed up, etc.) The specific bit you mention is indeed Legends, so it's part of the Legends continuity, take that as you will! 😂

#lumi.txt #star wars #sheev palpatine #darth plagueis #meta

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dalekofchaos · 22 days

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Hux. Short version, Hux reveals Kylo killing Snoke to the FIrst Order leadership. Hux ousts Ben and becomes Supreme Leader. Now Hux plans to exterminate The Jedi, force sensitives everywhere and lead to the death of the force. Long version read here.

Kylo as the villain. Adam Driver said the plan was never to redeem Ben Solo, that was a late change to appease everyone. So my big pitch for Supreme Leader Kylo Ren. To me Kylo Ren is what Vader could’ve been had he reached his full potential. A Vader who was never wounded on Mustafar, a Vader who killed a close family member and his master. He is the villain they were looking for, but no they had to course correct.As for what his motivation could be, exactly what he said. Finish what Vader started. Destroy the Light and reign over the galaxy as Supreme Leader. Long version. Other look at Kylo as the villain

Snoke's essence transferred into Kylo Ren the moment he killed Snoke.

Darth Plagueis was a powerful Sith Lord who could influence the midichlorians to create life and also save others from dying. He taught everything he knew to his apprentice, Sheev Palpatine (aka Darth Sidious), but he eventually lost his power and young Palpatine killed him in his sleep. How could Plagueis not foresee his own demise at the hands of his ambitious apprentice? Why did Plagueis suddenly “lose his power”? The truth is, he didn’t lose his power and he knew Sidious planned to kill him. It was part of the plan. By dying, I believe Darth Plagueis was able to transmit himself into Sheev and assume control of his body, almost like an infectious disease. Ever notice his name? Darth Plagueis. Plague, as in an infectious disease. Darth Plagueis unlocked the secret to immortality by moving from one body to the next, continuing his lifespan through multiple hosts over countless years. Ever wonder why Palpatine was so obsessed with training a powerful young apprentice? Surely he knew that one day the apprentice would want to overthrow him, so why train his own murderer? In Return of the Jedi, Emperor Palpatine continually provokes Luke to strike him down. Why would Palpatine want to be killed if the goal is longevity? Because Emperor Palpatine was assumed by Darth Plagueis and, through his death, he would then be able to transmit himself into a new host body. He wasn’t just looking for an apprentice, he was looking for a new body since Palpatine’s body was growing old. Luke Skywalker was meant to be the next host body for Darth Plagueis. But unfortunately for Plagueis, Darth Vader had a change of heart and defeated the Emperor. Snoke was Plagueis. It’s the only way to make things work. StarWars.com describes Snoke as a seeker of arcane and ancient lore, and the Last Jedi Visual Dictionary shows that he is a collector of rare memorabilia. At some point, Snoke must have found the wreckage of the Death Star on the forest moon Endor, and was infected by Darth Plagueis when he came upon the corpse of Palpatine. Did you ever wonder why Snoke thought it was so important to complete Kylo Ren’s training? It’s because Snoke was Darth Plagueis and he was training his next host body. Plagueis didn’t have a choice but to infect a really old political influencer like Snoke. Kylo was being groomed to become the next host body. Remember the infamous scene in The Last Jedi where Snoke is “predicting” how Kylo Ren will kill Rey? Wasn’t it a little too obvious? Wouldn’t Snoke have been able to foresee Kylo’s treachery? See through his conflict? It’s because he wasn’t predicting Rey’s death, he predicted his own. He knew Kylo would kill him. He deliberately bullied and provoked Kylo in order to stir his anger into hatred to further fuel his dark side and lead him to completing his training.

So Darth Plagueis goal would be to transfer his essence into Rey and in failing in that. He will drain the life force from the Dyad to satiate his own life force.

Thrawn. Cardinal West's Sequel Trilogy rewrite has the best take of Thrawn as the villain

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Rae Sloane.

Rae Sloane founded The First Order! Sloane was loyal to the Empire, so much so, rather than allowing it to cease to exist, she recruited other loyalists and they fled to the Unknown Territories beyond Jakku. She founded the First Order. Together with Hux, she could usurp control of the First Order and become Supreme Leader, which would start a civil war, those loyal to Sloane and those loyal to Kylo. We can have someone who could be a great antagonist to Leia. The founder of The First Order and the mother of the Resistance. What makes Rae a compelling character is the fact that she believes what the Empire is doing is right. In her eyes, the Empire is doing the right thing, purging lawlessness from a galaxy overrun by bureaucrats that care little for the common people. She’s wrong, but like great villains before her, audiences can see where she’s coming from even if they don’t agree with it. Throughout her many appearances in the supplemental Star Wars narratives, she is constantly pushing for the Empire to be “just.” When things start to fall apart after the Battle of Endor, Rae struggles to keep the remnants of the fleet playing by the unspoken rules of warfare and is frustrated to see the Empire careen into backstabbing and incompetence. You can see Rae’s influence in the First Order with its strict hierarchy and minute by-the-books stringency that makes Palpatine’s Empire look positively laissez-faire by comparison. Supreme Leader Rae Sloane would make The First Order a force to be reckoned with and what better way to end it than with the First Order’s founder?

The Grysks.

The Grysks were introduced in the new canon novel Thrawn:Alliances. They are what brings Thrawn to the Empire in hopes of co-existing to fight this threat in the Unknown Regions. Grysks are a species living somewhere in the Unknown Regions. Creatures half of myth, whom few have ever seen. It is said that they are nomads, with no fixed home, traveling in spacecraft so numerous they blot out the stars. They are said to be terrifying warriors, overwhelming their opponents by sheer numbers and ferocity. The fact that these intergalactic conquerors are not the main threat in the Sequel Trilogy is baffling. You could’ve had Ben Solo sense they were coming during his Jedi days and made the ultimate sacrifice to become Kylo Ren and join The First Order because he knew the New Republic was not ready to face such a threat. It wouldn’t make what he was doing the entire trilogy right, but it would make explain why he turned and what his motivations are.

I don't really have a explanation for Qi'Ra, but she was trained by Maul, took over the Crimson Dawn and you don't waste Emilia Clarke on one movie that never continued. So Qi'Ra as the villain could've worked.

A Mandalorian invasion lead by Fett writes itself.

I know it's technically Palpatine, but it works better because we don't stupidly retcon Anakin's sacrifice. This was planned, but the idiots that be decided it would be better if Ian played him. So instead this is the perfected clone. The Clone Wars were a test for Palpatine to perfect cloning. Throughout the reign as Emperor, he tinkered with cloning force sensitives, created a lot of failures(Snoke) but prior to Endor, he perfected it and kept it as a fail safe should he die. And after Kylo Ren killed Snoke, he awakened. Palpatine reborn. The movie opens at the end of the war. Finn successfully consurs up a Stormtrooper Rebellion and all the FO officers are executed, Hux is captured and Rey beats Kylo Ren for the umpteenth time. The First Order are on their last legs. Until a message is delivered to the galaxy.

“People of the galaxy. Your Emperor has returned after thirty long, lawless years. To the Sith and the Jedi; follow the Holocrons. We have much work to do. Those who remained loyal to me shall be rewarded. For those who relished in my demise, who celebrated what they thought the end of the Empire and believed their treachery had won them the galaxy…only death and suffering await. The great error shall be corrected. The day of victory is at hand. The restoration of the Empire! The Final Order! The Day of the Sith!”

And it's a race. Rey and the Resistance hoping to stop The Emperor, while Kylo Ren is hoping to kill Palpatine, obtain the power of the Sith Eternal and an infinite fleet that will win the galaxy, but in the end, Rey and Kylo are forced to work together. Matt Smith as Palpatine could've fixed the movie

The final contingency of the Emperor. Cloning Luke Skywalker. Palpatine had foreseen either Luke will kill him and Vader or Vader will betray him. So Palpatine orders that Luke's hand be brought to him. Luke is cloned, but imperfectly. He is just a husk of power, so Palpatine has the greatest minds of the Empire indoctrinate this malleable clone to being the heir and the eventual savior of the Empire. This clone. Let's refer to him as Luuke. Luuke learned everything there was from Palpatine. His Machiavellian cunning mechanisms. Mastery over the dark side and fully believed in his master's will and plans for him.

Luuke foresaw that there would be problems if he revealed himself. SO he created a puppet, Snoke. Through Snoke, he turned Kylo Ren to the dark side and puppeteered The First Order. Masterminding everything from the shadows and after Snoke and the real Luke Skywalker's deaths, it was time to reveal himself.

Luuke's motivations are to bring Kylo Ren to heel or cast him aside, turn Rey to the dark side or kill her and rule the galaxy as his master intended for him. This dark side Luke would unite both Rey and Ben against him and would give Mark Hamill the opportunity to play a dark side Luke Skywalker.

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