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kiragecko · 2 months

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I guess the only problem with being asked to take a “marie kondo approach” is that in order to find any fanfic that appears to be based in actual canon timeline and plot points and characterization (which does exist, and I’m not sure why fanon fans seem insistent that it doesn’t), I literally have to search for hours. I’m not joking, I consistently make fic rec lists, and I have to search for hours and hours for actual canonical basis. same thing with character tags on tumblr.

I’m not saying fanon fans have to stop enjoying fanon or making up their own content. I’m just saying that when the tags used for both fanon tim drake and canon tim drake are the same tag it just becomes incredibly annoying sometimes, and I understand why people who like to engage with canon (me, often) become frustrated

I have definitely had periods where I got incredibly frustrated with fanon! Around 2019, I was wondering if I needed to leave the Batfandom, because it had been so long since I read a new fic where the characters felt 'right'.

But, if you're willing to, I'd like you to consider what you mean when you divide 'fanon' from 'canon'. Because I struggle to find a hard line between the two, for several reasons:

1. Fandom is transformative. Every fanfic is going to have some interpretation of the source material. The line between what is too much interpretation and what is acceptable is different for every person. For me, I find it can even vary based on writing style or other odd things - lighthearted fic can have more noncanonical stuff in it than heavier fic, and still seem true to canon.

2. 'Canon' is subjective. I do not consider the movies or video games to be 'canon', and it annoys me when things from those creep into the fic I'm reading. (I'm okay with SOME Battinson.) Some aspects of the cartoons are okay. I consider precrisis Jason Todd to be an alternate reality version, but Donna's precrisis origins are more canonical than the dumb retcons. Wayne Family Adventures isn't my main version of the characters, but I'm not bothered if some elements show up in my stories. I'm ignoring most of the nu52, but I like Duke and I'm still watching this new Lian to see what happens. I doubt your divisions are identical to mine.

(Also, some things that I think of as 'fanon' have shown up in nu52 canon! I do not accept them as any more canon because of this.)

3. Most 'fanon' is based on canon. Canon Tim has weird sleep habits. 90s Dick is really lighthearted and joking around some characters in ways similar to fanon. Dick can canonically not be trusted to take care of himself if his mental health gets low enough. Jason likes classical literature. Etc.

These are exaggerated and/or twisted in a lot of fic, but where is the line where they stop being canon? I wouldn't bat an eye at a lot of this stuff, if it didn't show up SO OFTEN.

4. Most 'fanon fans' do know some canon. What line are you going to set where it will be 'enough'. And are they allowed to mention parts of the canon they haven't read yet? Is anyone allowed to talk about Dick's early Robin days, or only the tiny amount of people who have read the golden age stuff? A lot of the 'mistakes' I see are obviously made by people who have read ABOUT canon, but don't know quite how it fits together.

5. 'Canon' is FULL of contradictions. Yes, there are canon events. Yes, there is characterization that is consistent across 3/4s of comics. But. I'm still working on my sidekick timeline. I've devoted days to figuring out ages and passage of time. I've spent over a decade trying to figure out Jason Todd's motivations, and why Tim treats him the way he does. I've read all the 90s and early 2000s CANONICAL character assassination of Jason.

I spent years thinking that Donna's death was almost as foundational as Jason's, only to later discover that I had just happened to read the specific comics that focused on the fallout, and she only stayed dead for a short time. That happens to fans ALL THE TIME! We read a character summarizing an event we haven't directly read, and just accept it as what happened. But characters have biases, and not all writers care about accuracy.

I've read some Tim Drakes that I consider to be almost entirely 'fanon'. And quite a few that were so scarily 'canon' that I got chills. (Not all of which were similar to each other.) But the vast, vast majority have fallen somewhere in the middle.

I definitely do not want the responsibility of deciding which ones count as 'canon'! And I think I would strongly dislike anyone who tried to decide for me.

Being frustrated is logical, and I empathize. But the original post was about the impossible expectations some fans feel. The expectation to read thousands of comics, synthesize all the contradictions, and come to conclusions that match the 'true fans'. That's a perfectly reasonable thing to be complaining about.

If that's what some fans are experiencing, of course they're not going to want to engage with canon! There's no way for them to succeed, so why should they even try?

When you join THAT conversation to discuss your frustration about fanon, it strengthens that perception. When you call them 'fanon fans' it emphasizes their belief that you don't think they belong. And rather than trying to change, it's more likely that they'll double down. Canon is full of gatekeepers, so they'll avoid it.

#gatekeeping #fandom policing #fanon #canon vs fanon #usually don't do stuff like this anymore #I'm old and tired #but sometimes the words want to come out

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luciddreamslikeelectricity · 1 month

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the BohkeeNaht glazing in those comics and in the fanbase glazing said comics is making me alkdvnkvnklnLMFAO

i can't even fully blame those writers or even the current editor bcuz, despite SteevShayrun writing/dynamic being objectively worse, BN pisses me off more. I think it's bcuz the loss/tradeoff for the ship's existence is more severe IMO. in the 2000s the men in charge had the bright idea of rewriting Nat's backstory to make her a Cap supp character, and now we have to suffer bcuz there's a gaggle of "Nat" fans that dgaf about Black Widow stories or supp casts and just wanna see her in Cap comics to enact their brainwashed teacher tropey romance bs.

but imma still blame those two "we love female characters even tho we write them terribly" writers bcuz omg the writing fuckin awful, even worse than SteevShayrun writing somehow, and Bucky doesn't even have a solo comic to repair the damage that those writers have been doing to his character the past year.

but even if he did have a solo, with the current i doubt it would do anything for him. ever since ~10 years ago when they got the job and editorial authority of every Bucky appearance, his character has been getting worse, i can't fully blame those men since it's a tag team effort. that editor is part of the problem ever since they got put on lowkey.

but the glazing of the turds is what gets me. CA fans will praise anything and ignore the shite writing as long as there's even worse written shippy panels to post omfg

I agree, it pisses me off a lot, too! I don't know why natasha went from being in a relationship with bucky (which was always a terrible choice, of course) and still having her own life & solo runs & being a generally well-respected member of the superhero community to being bucky's girlfriend with seemingly no life of her own and no solo runs :/ like, why is she co-parenting that fuck ass cat with him now or something?

#Those writers are clearly doing this because there's demand, though...while I'm happy to blame them for everything ever, I think this time, I'll equally blame the fans (why is buckynat so popular anyway? I feel like it's all people who noticed mcu fans being misogynistic towards natasha and decided to ship them harder than they normally would) because #they probably know they have a hard time getting people to read their books so they're forming an alliance with people who know nothing about the characters.

Is there any cap character who is being written well rn? I agree about bucky but I feel like every single character is getting atrocious writing and stories right now and the worst part is that their fans don't seem to care. The rest of us (fans of other characters) constantly complain about mischaracterization when it happens but cap fans seem to be happy with anything they get as long as the art is pretty and their ships are together 😭 sam literally tortured someone in his latest solo run and people were totally cool with it. Every writer who wrote sharon and bucky wrote them differently. Misty & natasha deserve better than to be stuck with these people and if they don't know what to do with steve, they should stop giving him solo books. I don't know how long the current cap editor was active for so I don't know if they're the only person to blame but they're certainly doing a terrible job regardless of whether they're solely responsible for all of these things...

#anonymous #sorry I got a little rant-y

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onehundredandeleventropicalfish · 1 year

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Hi 💖 I love your blog and I have a very silly question. I'm not through with the comics yet so I'm skipping a lot of posts for now (I already have had the Worst Spoiler from elsewhere though so) but yeah anyway I saw your tags about Dream only eating dream food and I'm just. Wondering. If the food is in the Dreaming, it's part of the Dreaming, correct? Except the Dreaming is also Dream, like, he's part of him he's part of it etc idk? So... If he eats Dreaming Food™... is that like the thing on the show with Gregory and he's in a way just. Reabsorbing bits of himself into his uhhh more concentrated Self. Is he eating a part of himself. Net zero food acquisition, that food was already him to begin with. What is he doing. (Possibly I am overthinking this and possibly you are the wrong person to ask this! Please do not feel any obligation to respond to this in any way, and have a good whatever time of day it is for you!)

overthinking is what we do here, i love this question!

and, it sort of is, in the sense that all dreams are Dream in some form, but in that sense the endless are all self perpetuating anyway (and they don't have mortal bodies, there's no reason why our food would be particularly good fuel, i think the ones who eat it just do so because they like it)

dream, meanwhile, can eat waking world food? he just hates it

(interestingly he seems to have less of a problem with drinks, he's turned down every bit of food he's ever been offered no matter how impolite it was to do so at the time, but he'll order drinks in his meetings with hob, and he drank coffee once with his brother)

but to your actual question - he doesn't have to eat food that just he created. we don't get this in the show but in the comic when he gets out of the cage the very first thing he does is search other people's dreams for the first one with food in, because he does still get hungry and he hasn't eaten since uh. 1915

so like. there's dream magic and then there's Dream's magic. gregory had to happen because he had none of his own magic left (Stuff Happened, before he got captured, which is spoilers for overture, but the only reason he got caught in burgess' trap at all is he'd used up most of his own magic and wasn't strong enough to resist what was actually a fairly weak summoning spell. death wasn't summoned bc she would have barely even noticed it being cast), so if he wanted to actually start using his magic to fix things, he would have either had to wait for it to recuperate naturally (would have taken a long time if it happened at all, given the state the dreaming was in), or he had to artificially boost it

but the dreams of mortals are still there - that's also what he does to summon the fates, he has nothing of his own to offer them so he takes from the collective dreaming

and in terms of just keeping his body going, that food works fine

(and like. dream is a being created out of the dreams of mortals anyway, so it makes sense that those dreams are his source of energy)

(normally he doesn't have to steal it though, that was a very desperate situation, he has palace cooks who are capable of dreaming literally any food on request)

(as shown when he has delirium over for dinner and he orders a fairly ordinary meal and she orders freshly squeezed mango juice and "some little chocolate people, about three inches high, filled with raspberry cream")

#........#i am not relating to dream as an autistic with sensory issues i am not relating to dream as an autistic with sensory issues #but yeah all of the scenes featuring the endless and food are hilarious #i'd add more examples but attempting to keep this post mostly spoiler free #the sandman #dream of the endless #mine #ask #meta

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dick-helmet-magneto · 10 months

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3,6-10, 12-22, 24-25

Let the violence commence!

to start with I was like what is violence about this? Now I see Also, going to go with x-men. there are other fandoms that I was mentally thinking about for some of these but i don't want to actually be murdered also, AHHHHH still enjoy asks so much

3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr

Charles dies before Erik of alcohol poisioning. Like there's not comics and movies where he dies of literally everything else first. The man dies at least once a day.

6. which ship fans are the most annoying?

It's cherik shippers. It's us, let's be honest, I'm sure it is. What other ships are out there?

7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?

Logan. I don't know everyone is like FUCK MAGNETO LOGAN IS THE MEOW MEOW MURDER ERIK and it's like...excuse you. I want to see them fight this out themselves. I mean Erik would win but still.

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

Charles is a night owl, Erik is up before the sun every morning. I've seen so much of people flipping it or saying Charles is somehow both. I'm sure the telepath doesn't get much sleep but Erik? He doesn't either. Charles just stays up late trying to tire himself out enough to sleep and Erik sleeps until he can't and then he's up and out of bed and it's like 4am.

9. worst part of canon

MOIRA FUCKING MACTAGGART. I was going to say the lack of cherik but i think we've been given that.

10. worst part of fanon

I can't really think of anything. I mean there's the constant nom-powered au that leaves me wondering what Erik's problem is then but it's nothing I have that much of an issue with. More just curious

12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

I suppose Erik doesn't count? It seems like most of the general population is convinced he's just an evil villain and dislike him. Charles? I mean people seem to have the right ideas. They like Pietro and I'll take that.

13. worst blorboficiation

Going back to logan about this one

14. that one thing you see in fics all the time

A negative thing? positive? something I just noticed? no beach divorce. I see that a lot.

15. that one thing you see in fanart all the time

I don't actually see that much fan art. I don't know? Cherik kissing? That seems to be most of what I see

16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

The fics based in canon where Charles can just suddenly walk and is fully able-bodied. Like if he's using a cane or walker or something sure, all for that but like post-apocalypse and he's walking or they're on Genosha and it's magic.

17. there should be more of this type of fic/art

Misunderstandings, secret relationships, and insecurity are all tags I start ao3 for almost daily

18. it's absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on...

Still want more dofp fics where Erik is there as Charles's powers return and sees the pain he seems to be in. Or fics dealing with Erik's mental state after solitary. I can't write them all by myself. Someone help me.

19. you're mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like...

mpreg is coming to mind. the idea of Charles and Erik having a biological child? Charles pregnant during Cuba and getting Erik to come back that way? OR Erik leaving, realizing he's pregnant, and then coming back to Charles to protect their child? YES

20. part of canon you found tedious or boring

Jean Grey.

21. part of canon you think is overhyped

Honestly, not to keep bringing it up, but still haven't seen the Logan movies

22. your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores

It's the little things. Erik saving Charles as they crash on the beach. Paris. The way Charles winces when he sits in Darwin's cab during first class. Oh also "you're always sorry, Charles, and there's always a speech"

24. topic that brings up the most rancid discourse

Similarities between Erik and Shaw I think. I hate when people are like "Oh so now you're turning into the man that killed your mother" no, he's not turning into a nazi fuck off. He's making some...decisions. but he's not literally turning into shaw.

25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

...how bad the last two movies were. Don't get me wrong, they weren't great. They certainly weren't the level of the first class and dofp, but they had their moments. I don't think they were entirely terrible and some people insist they weren't worth the time watching them.

#don't hate me i'm sorry for the logan stuff #its not that i don't like him #i just like erik more #and i've been made to feel like i have to choose #and erik looks like he could use the support #logan has enough of it

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batarangsoundsdumb · 3 years

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guess fucking what? my inbox is so fucking full right now i'm unloading all of this shit in one post.

For the 11th gotham memes: gothamites react to bruce being jacked in a tiktok he made with kids, like super yoked, ripped as hell

fucking hilarious thanks. i think i did it in one meme post, but i genuinely don't remember which one

i dunno which of the batfam would do this but one time i was sleeping over at a friends house and ended up on the floor bc the bed was so very small and i just stayed there because the rug was soft

that's a drunk jason move i don't know what to tell you

tim and jason are "i listen to pop punk" solidarity. whenever jason highjacks the batmobile theyll go on long ass car rides blaring mcr and paramore and then never talk about it again

as they should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tim: no jason it's my turn using the aux cord i gotta put on my jams jason: don't you dare put on weird shit tim: don't worry, you're gonna love this *plays fearless (taylor's version)

hear me out hear me out, red hood stans 🤝 nightwing stans t h i g h s

holy shit yes.

SNL au: Bruce breaks character when pretending to superman and says something like "I'm not superman! You've seen his gps!! It's from 2001!!!" @sabeanybabe

superman flies past the snl building the next day just to say 'actually it's from 2005, i'm not a heathen'

does your back hurt from carrying the batfam fandom

it hurts more from the exotic rock collection i keep in my backpack, but thanks for the concern.

I love your posts by why would you always leave the best parts in the tags?

as a treat for the people that check the tags ;) (and also because i'm committed to the short post aesthetic)

somehow your playlist was everything i never knew i needed. i mean it. this is my new favorite playlist.

and don't you dare get a new favourite playlist!

babe ur stoner tim playlist is exactly too perfect, earth is literally blessed by ur existence

babe thanks so much! i love my stoner tim playlist because it's just my usual playlist but people think it's an artistic choice that i put taylor swift and britney spears in there, when it's just what i unironically like listening to

JANDKSKDK BILLY RAY CYRUS ON THE STONER TIM PLAYLIST I LOVE IT IT

again it's not even an ironic choice, i know every single word and i genuinely like the song

The last chapter of Fundamentals of Casework has me crying at work. Thanks I love it @dudelookitsalesbian

oh babe, i'm sorry, but also, not sorry i love chapter 4 so much it's my lovechild with the 'mental illness' tag

soooo....stumbled on your tumblr by some stroke of fate??? read your DC fanfic first. which is PHENOMENAL btw. then found all the batmemes; the funniest thing EVER bc everyone forgets about regular old gothamites. kept scrolling and your blog pops up as recommended. clicked on the ao3 for shits and giggles and waddaya know?!?!? it's YOU!!! you're LEGEND!!!! ever seen that meme? it's a video of a cat that got into a baseball field and the two announcers get really invested in his escape attempt and start giving a play by play of the cat instead of the game. memeable moment: "GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!"

i seriously think about this ask every single day and it's so fucking funny to me that i've never seen the meme you're referencing, but i still find myself going 'GREAT stuff from the Cat!!!' whenever i see something funny. but wow i'm glad you liked this steaming pile of garbage

Fav dc character overall? And fav batfamily character?

don't ask me to pick between the loves of my life, but i can tell you i've cried about every single batfamily member and also wally west (my beloved)

What's your opinion on fans having a problem with batfam being "too big"? And some even claim that batfam is just "Bruce Alfred Dick Damian" and the rest of them are just "friends and allies" (source: reddit) Personally, I like batfam because of this reason but idk

stupid. a family can never be too big. i'm not that big a fan of like huge batfam stuff with everybody from every single universe, because as much as it's funny for bruce to have like 30 kids, it just feels a little too OOC for me.

This is the best tag I've seen involving the batfam, thanks for thinking of it

This is canon now @nctxrejects

lmao yeah i think at that point alfred has had to sit through like at least a dozen coming out talks and just has a pride flag collection in the attic that he pulls out whenever a kid comes out

idk why batfam hits different as compared to any other superhero family

bc it's found family and usually the other superhero families are almost all genetically related in one way or another

I don't know if you watch the umbrella academy but I saw your last post about batcest and saw the similarities. But the thing is (although I think it's weird) in TUA, they addressed it by saying "they were raised as weapons, not siblings" or something along those lines, which is simply not the case with batfam.

yeah i watched tua but i also thought it was ridiculous and they still treated each other as siblings so i didn't like the luthor/allison thing, and am glad they stopped doing that shit bc it fucking sucked.

Hot take: Batcest shippers are the same people who believe adopted siblings are not actual siblings

smoking hot take: batcest shippers are the people who watch 'my sister got stuck in the washing machine' porn

Duke was adopted by Bruce?

not technically no, but do i, tumblr user batarangsoundsdumb, look like i care?

True story but I had to change my freaking name because it used to be "Damien" and most people would go "OH LIKE DAMIAN WAYNE" like please I'm just tryna live

true story, but i don't actually think of damian when i hear the name damian, literally the first thing that pops up is damian darkh like bruh what?

apparently dc comics company supported comic stores by giving out new titles and stuff during the beginning of the pandemic to help them run and I just think that's wholesome

ah yeah that's so fucking cool, still don't like dc, the company, because this world is a capitalist hellhole and we're all owned by warner brothers or disney with no in between.

ayo looking at tumblr head canons and finding out bruce is actually a terrible father is a punch in the gut

lmao yes, in like 50% of comics bruce is a terrible father and it gives me whiplash

oooh I just saw the jason todd vs winter soldier post and the real question is: batman vs iron man

while iron man has like hundreds of cases of armor, batman could throw out an emp and have the guy dropping out of the sky in 2 seconds.

dickfast = fastdick = quickdick = quickie

magnum hot take

hey bata(?) just thought I'd let you know I have copied the obnoxious emoji and Billy Ray post for use on simping men going forth

thank you 😘🌷 (@spacebarsidecar)

why would you do that to your followers???? i get why i did it, but why would you???

what is scarecrow made the nightwing funko pop himself, like those diy-ers that paint over other ones

oh god no, horrible take, horrible take, that's a disgusting thought oh no

I see your HC that Bruce and Oliver fucked and raise you this: Dick and Roy ALSO fucked

yes they did and it was a horrible moment for jason to find out dick has fucked both of his best friends

"at this rate bruce adds like 1 child to his family every decade or so" Duke is introduced in 2013, Damian as Damian, not as an unnamed child, in 2006. And he is already 14 years old, Robins rarely remain Robins after 16 😬 It looks like a new Robin and Batkid will appear in a couple of years

i mean i can't wait? but somebody will probably die first tho, we're due for another major character death. my money's on either cass or duke this time.

BRO you're so right all of your Bruce's ex headcanons are amazing but they aren't ships, that's kinda wild. Like I don't want any peeks into how their relationship was I just want to see everyone make fun of them

lmao YES it's just i love bruce being a slut, like good for him.

I am in love with your posts your honour thank you

omg thanks are we like,, gonna kiss now?

The justice league needs to have a meeting to discuss how many of their members/partners have slept with bruce. Because through a combination of cannon & fannon (if DC wasn’t homophobic) we have AT LEAST: 1) clark 2) lois 3) oliver 4) dinah 5) john

Thats not counting villains or random civilians @dudelookitsalesbian

yes yes yes, they'll have a yearly meeting about how many of their collective exes could be out for revenge and batman's list just keeps getting longer.

tim was like "i'm drake now" and everyone was like ahh so your fursona is a dragon and tim was like pffffft no. ducks.

and what about it?

when steph's fighting livewire and she zaps her with lighting and nothing happens and then they both just. stand there awkwardly for a second and talk. yeah i couldn't stop laughing at that batgirl steph is the BEST

oh yeah that was fucking hilarious and i think it would be so cool and sexy of dc to give steph a little comic series,,, as a treat

Hi I absolutely adore all of yours "Bruce and Oliver very badly pretending they didn't fuck each other" memes

lmao i do too

I need you to know that “Bruce Wayne had frosted tips” is one of my favorite Bruce takes of all time it’s so galaxy brained. you’re right and you should say it

he also painted his hair blonde once when he was travelling and in conclusion, this is why he's being blackmailed by the gotham gazette.

you know my thing about gordon being branded as the only good cop in gotham is its a load of shit like arguably he's a good person and not working to screw people over or anything but the fact that he also works w. batman makes him a shit cop. like yea batman is better than the mob but its still illegal its still an abuse of power he just not making bank

babe, all cops are bad cops. (but yeah youre absolutely right, working with vigilantes makes you a shit cop, but also working against vigilantes just makes you an asshole cop yanno?)

ruh roh i think i’m about to add “so not yeehaw” every time i don’t like something

that's a very good vocabulary upgrade

somehow i feel like steph already knew. like babs obviously knew but i feel like bruce got high/drunk in front of steph and started telling his boarding school stories and steph was just like “oh you fucked up i’m never gonna forget this”

steph and bruce have weird uncle/rebellious niece dynamic and they just hang out sometimes and bruce will be like 'i once broke my arm when i tripped over a hedge when i was drunk so oliver drove me to the hospital on an electric scooter' and steph will just have to sit there with that knowledge in her head.

Hello I just wanted to tell you you are So right in all your steph opinions bc she is, in fact amazing and I think that's very sexy of you. Ps. Your Bruce/Oliver fic is hilarious

babe, thank you so much and yes steph is amazing and i love her and she deserves the world and she's the best member of the batfam hands down. also thanks

In Supersons we see a couple of kids that are implied to be Damian and Jon's children and the boy has laser eyes and can fly, so I asume he's not adopted. The girl, who calls Bruce grandpa, can also fly, btw. So it's canon (probably by accident) that Jon can have kids and he must have married one of Bruce's kids. (I'm hoping for Damian, mostly because any other of his children would be waaaaaaaaaaaaay too old.) @artemisa97

lmao that was probably an accident seeing as jon is a 17 year old superhero in the year 3000 (by the jonas brothers)

You know, I'm a die hard fan of your memes, but I gotta say one thing: if Gothamites actually took gas mask everywhere with them, then the Scarecrow would just be a weird dude in a weird costume, and not a villain oh so scary. DC really should just takes notes from you.

bold of you to assume there's no gothamite anti-maskers

How does it feel being the funniest person on this app?

horrible, next question.

I can't listen to Green Day or Billy Joel without thinking of your post about how Bruce got arrested at a Billy Joel concert @nightwings-kid

yeah that's your mistake, i on the other hand can't enjoy billy joel without thinking about the glee rendition of 'uptown girl'

I've FINALLY been watching the Batman animated series and I gotta say, after watching "the gray ghost" I am CONVINCED that Batman is a closeted super hero geek who was 100% freaking out the first time he met Superman and is just REALLY good at hiding it.

superman: so what do you do in your free time? batman, thinking about the superman fanfiction he's writing on the batcomputer: i have no free time

bruce and oliver be like boyfriends to co-workers 401k (do the justice leagues get 401ks??? not that bruce and ollie would need them, but-)

lmao yes just 400 thousand words of bruce realising 'oh dip oliver is such a fucking dumbass' (also i don't know what a 401 k is but i assume they don't?)

Gothamites would totally boo superman as he saves Gotham while batman is out. @meenje

he's like 'okay think about that next time you want to be saved from an alien octopus'

I just took long break from dc comics and I come back to see ric grayson ??

i think it's very cool and sexy of dc to see dick and just think 'you know what? let's just give him a traumatic brain injury' and then didn't develop his character in any real way

SPEAKING OF RIC GRAYSON, gothamites making confused memes out of ric grayson is much needed

'dick grayson is my taxi driver? can anyone explain what the fuck happened he looks like an italian plumber?'

i hate to say it but batfam are def "marvel characters" in that sense they are characters who are human but become superheroes unlike most dc characters who are gods trying to be human maybe this is why I like batfam

fair enough

#this is only like half of it #but at least you can get like a few answers #yanno fuck it #bataranswers #ask #asks #anon

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bigskydreaming · 3 years

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I'm so used to Dick getting hit because his family or friend was annoyed and decided he was the closest wall to punch that I never expect anything different anywhere, and then Young Justice s3 and Titans s2 caught me by the neck and threw me into a pool of unexpected catharsis. I never expected Dick to defend himself, I never expected the catharsis, I never expected how much it'd affect me. Although now that Titans s3 is upon us with a Dick vs Jason fight I'm back to the default.

I really, really, REALLY wish more people had even the slightest idea of the catharsis that can come from one character just fucking INTERVENING in a situation like we see happen so often in fics and the comics and just be like....no. That is not fucking okay. And like, without that, it literally is just...permissive? Like when Jason punches Dick in Grayson #12 after the Spyral thing, and Tim just stands there.....Tim's essentially saying its okay, he sees nothing wrong with what just happened. Which....dun dun dun....not all that surprisingly then turned into Tim punching Dick in Batman and Robin Eternal.....again with nobody upset.

Its why I've never even been able to like, go with the idea that Alfred or any of the Titans knew about what happened between Bruce and Dick in NTT #55, specifically, because like....I can't make peace with nobody saying anything about that ever. Bruce is a Big Time Superhero. Who frequently rubs people the wrong way. I don't buy that nobody's ever gonna throw that back in his face to make a point about how he's got no business being holier than thou about various topics. *Shrugs*

But yeah, unfortunately its not just canon. Like, I've read a fic where the prompt was literally like....people being glad to see Dick back from Spyral and getting actual catharsis for everything he went through instead of what we got in canon....so I went into the fic like okay, cool, this is exactly what I'm looking for. LOL nah, we got Jason STILL punching Dick anyway, even AFTER finding out about the events of NW #30 and Dick actually having died, and like, Jason was still so pissed at Dick for not TELLING them this that NOW, THAT'S why he just has to punch Dick before THEN hugging him and saying okay I just had to get that out, but now I'm over it and glad you're back.

And I was just like.....ummm. The author and people in the comments are treating this like an lol moment where all's well that end's well, and I'm like ARE YOU KIDDING ME, THAT'S THE EXACT SAME ISSUE CANON PRESENTED. Only now its WORSE, because people act like that addressed and resolved it, but with it STILL including Jason punching Dick cuz he was mad, and now with this even MORE formally being treated as like....something fine and necessary to repair their relationship. And all of this is packaged as like...the specific catharsis that people who were UPSET with how that all played out in canon like, came into this specific fic looking for....and this is what we got instead, with zero warning.

That's not even getting started on like, the super long super serious fic set during the Ric Grayson era that was supposedly about addressing Bruce's abusive actions towards ALL his kids, which FEATURED Ric as a regular character, but only ever actually DELVED into the times he'd hit Jason and then Tim. With Tim as an unreliable narrator making some reference to Bruce having hit Dick a couple times but that was different because Dick was an adult....and the author and narration at NO POINT pushing back against this to be like well actually Timmy, that's not fucking different at all, Dick is still his kid, Bruce was still taking out his anger on him, that was still abuse, and saying or even just implicitly framing it as NOT abuse the way it played out in Tim's head, when you're presenting this entire fic as a whole as like, an ode to actually acknowledging the abusive aspects of how Bruce has been written with his kids....

Again, SUPER upsetting to read and witness, because people are absolutely going to read that and internalize that as reinforcing their belief that the situations with Bruce and Dick WERE substantially different and thus not qualifying as abuse and belonging in a separate category the way Tim slotted it in his brain.....because why wouldn't they?

The author only wrote it that way because they perceived it that way, clearly, otherwise by their own stated admission of trying to tackle this subject honestly and completely, like....they would have actually made some kind of point or acknowledgment of it not being different at all and still very much abuse....and the fact that they didn't suggests they very much did see it as somehow different.....so why would readers perceive it any differently and why wouldn't its inclusion in a fic that delved into abuse so extensively NOT at least on SOME level potentially reinforce whatever leanings or perceptions they had in the same direction already? And meanwhile, this story like sooooo many others that wants to talk about abuse SERIOUSLY, all the while calls this their hobby that they do for enjoyment, so please don't criticize anything because that would ruin the HOBBY of it all for them, and its like....

And then there's the fic where its Dick hitting Jason while in the midst of a narrative that's bringing all of Jason's abuse issues and related triggers front and center, and this one is highly recommended as like, a great Dick Grayson characterization by an author who hates any and all canon renditions of Bruce being abusive and so doesn't include anything like that, and so you're going into it like okay, I'm not expecting any catharsis or anything along the lines of acknowledging Bruce's worse moments with Dick or Jason because clearly that's not what this fic is about and that's fine...but by the exact same token, I ALSO was not expecting that an author who is so vehement about how abusive Bruce is wildly OOC writing because the real Bruce would never do that and that's not how they perceive the characters, like....what I'm NOT expecting is for Dick, in a fic PRAISED for a good and complex depiction of him, to like....just fucking pop Jason one in the face and bring to mind how this makes him no different from Jason's abuser and then he runs and seeks comfort in Bruce who whether people like it or not, is canonically someone who has made Dick an abuse survivor himself....

And I'm just sitting there fucking BLIND-SIDED thinking wow, not only did I NOT want this recommended to me by the whole freaking fandom as a wonderfully nuanced portrayal of Dick Grayson, I would have kept a ten mile radius from it if it had say, a tag warning of sibling abuse, which is what they wrote between Dick and Jason, just the other way around. And its like.....I completely understand the author's dislike of abusive Bruce in canon and their desire not to engage with that content on any level, and would have been totally fine with that.....except, I naively figured there was no reason that same logic wouldn't extend to Dick, especially in so lauded a fic, because like, what? Bruce would never ever hit his family and its wildly OOC and simply not believable, even though its happened like five different times with Dick alone, but Dick hitting HIS family is a wonderfully nuanced and complicated portrayal of him? In what universe is that not gonna be a problem for some people??

But because we live in a fandom that's like, umm, this is just peoples' HOBBY, they're doing it for FUN, we're expected to be silent about stuff like this which are very real fucking problems to watch go unacknowledged in fics that claim to be TRYING to treat these topics seriously, but in reality only want to be entertainment just deep enough to move people but NOT deep enough to warrant criticism for having an undue influence on peoples' emotions or perceptions of various dynamics.....and we're supposed to be polite and just smile and say this isn't for us and let it all go, even though like, we would have KNOWN it wasn't for us and not gone anywhere near it in the first place if like, it had been tagged as sibling abuse or something like that. That would have been a clear advertisement to me that like, this is not something you want any part of.

Like, I go to fics that do acknowledge or reference Bruce's abuse to his kids because I'm LOOKING for the catharsis of having abuse actually called out as abuse....and what about that makes anyone think I or someone like me is in doing so LOOKING for characters who AREN'T already abusive to each other in canon NOW being abusive in ways that only the individual fic writer chose to depict them as? And by the same token, its not like I want to go into any fic and see more of the same thing as we get in canon, which is.....more instances of actual abuse being framed and treated as something that's just fine, actually, and nothing to worry about or take too seriously....

But meanwhile, back at the fandom farm, everyone's still totally convinced that they're so superior to canon and doing things so much better than them and fixing all their mistakes....and its like....well then why are you MAKING the EXACT same mistakes, and what the hell are we supposed to do about it with YOU guys if unlike with canon (where we can criticize but it doesn't do much good because there's no guarantee of the people who need to see it actually seeing it), we're not supposed to bring it to your attention as 'criticism-worthy' (thus making the opposite problem of where we CAN bring it to the attention of people who can see it, but we're not 'supposed to' because fandom etiquette)?

And back to the whole thing about using a sibling abuse tag as a warning for people to steer clear if this isn't something they want in their dynamics between the Batbrothers, not just Bruce and his kids....

The thing that fucking gets me every time here, is like......THIS WOULD BE SUCH AN EASY PROBLEM TO FIX, IF PEOPLE WEREN'T JUST SO FREAKING EMBARRASSED TO ADMIT THEY ACCIDENTALLY WROTE IT WITHOUT NOTICING WHAT IT WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Like that first example I used....I very naively DID try to bring it to the author's attention when I was new to dipping my toes back into this fandom, and boy oh boy did that just exemplify how counter-productive that is as long as people can hide behind the DONT CRITICIZE MY WORK shield. I sent a private message on Ao3 so it wouldn't even show up in their comments, and just said very simply:

"hey, I really enjoy your stuff but I was wondering if you would mind putting a warning tag of 'sibling abuse' on your latest fic? I'm not trying to tell you how to write the characters and I figure you probably didn't intend it to come across that way anyway, but as an abuse survivor, I can't help but see that dynamic pop out as such for me in a way that I would at least have liked a heads up about, if that makes sense? Its just I do see how you paralleled how the canon presented this scenario and thus get what you were trying to do there I think, but I kinda only came into this fic for the specific lure of the catharsis we DIDN'T get when things played out somewhat similar in canon, with a lot of it having to do with that dynamic between Dick and Jason, and so...yeah. This part of the comics is obviously emotionally charged for a lot of us and I just know personally, this wasn't quite the catharsis I was after for that scenario and just a quick tag like that would have helped warn me of that. Anyway, sorry for this and hope you can understand my position, I'm not trying to be heavy-handed here or anything, but this was a problem for me and just in case it might be a problem for anyone else in the future, I thought I'd try and send a quick message about that for you to do whatever you want with."

I mean, I thought I was pretty reasonable there, personally?

Yeah.

The author did not.

She went off on me for constructive criticism which she did not ask for, and did not appreciate my insinuations into her character about her being an abuse apologist, because that's clearly what I was saying there. But I mean, that's what happens here. I'd bet anything that she was just embarrassed to have written the dynamic in such a way and then been called out about something she was previously oblivious to and then felt self-conscious about having overlooked or perpetrated herself.

But like....as understandable as that is, like....that's not my problem? And that's not a reason to shut down ANY avenue for people to raise the issue when writers unknowingly perpetrate stuff like this, in ANY way, no matter HOW delicately.

I get being defensive about someone thinking you INTENDED to write a pair of brothers as abusive and saying that was fine, and I even get how, being in a defensive mindset, she could have jumped to that interpretation of what I was saying rather than what I was ACTUALLY saying which was just....look, I don't know you, I don't know your own story, but for whatever reason you didn't pick up on this potentially troubling element of what you wrote in ways that I did because of my own experiences, and I'm just trying to point the issue out as delicately as possible because I KNOW that chances are, you WOULDN'T have written things that way if you had at all perceived the dynamic as I did. And I also KNOW that for people who don't have necessarily the same experiences or perspective I do, that they're not going to be as naturally inclined to perceive trouble spots the way I'm kinda....primed to notice them, and its NATURAL for some of this to pass by peoples' notice for a variety of reasons and like....I'm not freaking mad about that?? That's FINE. That's NORMAL. You're not a bad person for writing something a 'problematic' way purely because you LITERALLY DIDN'T SEE THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU WROTE IT.

Nobody has universal experiences. Nobody has all experiences. The problem is almost NEVER somebody just WRITING something in a way that they 'should have' known better than to, especially when it comes to topics like abuse or whatever.

No, the problem is ONLY when they get all up in their butthurt feelings about being embarrassed that they DIDN'T omnisciently know that and they feel self conscious now about how they think it makes them look now that the issue HAS been raised in a way they can recognize, and so they just fucking double down on pretending there's no issue whatsoever and whomever brings it to their attention is just overstepping and who even asked, anyway.

And thus a problem that can easily be solved in TWO ways....1) by adding a simple tag acknowledging the problem area for what it is, or 2) by editing the problem area to erase or write around the issue it raises that the author didn't perceive initially and likely would have avoided from the start if they HAD, because they AREN'T someone who wants to stand KNOWINGLY by that implication and what it says or suggests.....

Instead, this problem just gets turned into a generic fandom discourse issue about critique etiquette that addresses absolutely nothing, changes nothing, makes nothing about any of this better for ANYONE, just extends the problem to one likely to be repeated over and over again because it WILL never change so long as it remains something that isn't SUPPOSED to have attention brought to it, and all of this.

All of this.

Is just self-conscious defensiveness because people didn't want to be perceived as someone who either actually thought the things they'd unknowingly implied for WHATEVER reason, or didn't care/pay enough attention to notice as a problem in the first place....

Or else they just literally DON'T care enough about the content of what they're writing enough that they actually GIVE a shit about becoming better informed on it and thus better able to steer away from troubling implications or points of view in the future. Even if pointed out by survivors or people with personal experience as such that they recognize a problem even where the author didn't themselvse, no matter WHAT their own personal relationship with the subject matter is -

(because yeah, survivors of rape and abuse can absolutely perpetuate harmful viewpoints ourselves as well, because experiencing these things doesn't take away from our being exposed to just as much of the abuse/rape culture and apologia society and media churns out regularly enough that it can cloud ANYONE'S mind on this subject, without the addition or input of other points of view).

And either way, no matter what the reason is, when people aren't willing to even ENTERTAIN input, feedback, or potentially negative or even just AWARENESS-RAISING viewpoints in response to culturally influencing fictional content they put out via a variety of fairly wide-reaching platforms that can thus reach and influence any number of mindsets, from those of survivors to potential survivors to friends or families of survivors to people with no connection to abuse or rape whatsoever currently but for whom that could change at any time because we all meet new people every day and survivors could come into your life and be affected by your views and knowledge of abuse and rape culture and apologism at any point, even if you never become a survivor yourself -

(as is my ardent wish for anyone no matter HOW much I dislike or disagree with them personally. I don't expect or WANT people to be as fully informed on a lot of this stuff as I am personally, just like I'm not like, sad about not being MORE informed on the aspects or experiences stemming from it all that aren't personally relevant to my own life, because I'm additionally very aware that my own viewpoint is not definitive and not the monolithic voice for all survivors everywhere, I've literally only ever advocated for my own perspective on these matters and anyone of a like-mind which is an entirely opt-in POV that people have to decide for THEMSELVES if they feel that applies to them versus something that I'm CLAIMING on behalf of anyone but myself) -

Anyway. Bottom line is whatever the reason for WHY people are so avoidant on this topic, the end result is we've created a culture that says people are allowed to craft fictional viewpoints on any topic in any way to any degree...but the only impact that can ever be acknowledged is positive. Nobody can point out where things can be better. Nobody can point out where things are just fucking WRONG. The entertainment of whomever wrote the thing and whomever reads it and ISN'T bothered by it in any way, is eminently more important and worth protecting than the comfort of anyone who reads the thing and is not only troubled by the viewpoint made or claims presented on a matter they're intimately acquainted with in some form or to some degree themselves.....but then merely wants their viewpoint and concerns acknowledged and made part of the conversation so that both writer and readers can potentially apply that viewpoint and ANY additional perspective or information it contains to future works.

In essence, for all the free speech and censorship talk that gets thrown around fandom spaces....THIS kinda thing RIGHT HERE?

Is the most self-evident example I can come up with of ACTUALLY shutting down conversation and the spread and dissemination of information relevant to the topics being raised as points of interest every. single. day. in this fandom and most every other one I can think of.

So if peoples' ACTUAL goal was creating spaces where the people for whom fictional content is actually MOST relevant to are encouraged and outright TOLD to try and separate their feelings from that relevancy and treat it all as an abstract.....

Just so that people for whom this content already IS an abstract and nothing more, can refrain from having it made real and thus reality-impacting, and in doing so take away some of the escapism and FUN of it all, and make it a little more 'heavy' than they wanted when they turned to it for a bit of self-indulgent angst they never intended or expected to treat (or see treated) as anything more than that?

Then its like, congrats. You did it guys. That's what you've got here. That's what you've made.

Yay.

Go team.

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It's clear as day you don't understand shit about mha so just drop the manga, you sound stupid asf talking about the whole toga, deku and uraraka situation. So get your ass the fuck outta this fandom and read something else you dumb bitch.

Holy shit, why are you so retarded when it comes to mha?

How did I get four angry messages for a post that I politely tagged as anti-villain, and left Toga out of the tags on? These two are just hate, while the others are actually trying to debate with what I wrote to some extent, which is at least somewhat better.

But still, I don't really get it. If these people love the villains so much then they should filter tags, or you know to block me. I've been critical of the villains before this, and have complained about Toga's character multiple times. If they can't stand someone saying something negative about the cartoon girl they like, then they should just block.

The rule is, if you want to hate read someone's posts you can't come into their ask box and get huffy. You have to either make your own vague post about it or complain to a blog that will side with you (but to be honest you should probably block if it makes you this mad).

I have every right to be in the fandom if I want. Plus, I do read other things--how do you think I spot MHA's flaws? Because I've seen these themes pulled off way better.

(Also, maybe don't use an ableist slur over a comic for teenagers. Or call someone a bitch. Real people actually have feelings, until your cartoon Best Girl.)

How the hell don't you understand that the reason toga acts like she does is because she doesn't understand social cues and is bad at expressing herself because of her upbringing. Which is obviously why she's only able to really communicate with the league and even they still think she's crazy, so you're not making any sense.

But Toga does understand social ques. That's why I have a problem with her. If she didn't understand basic social ques, Toga wouldn't have been able to ever appear normal, which she did until she was around 14-15 or something. Plus, she's honestly rather normal around the League. The only one who calls her crazy anymore is Dabi, and that's just because his major characterization is aloof asshole.

Also, you know who has trouble understanding social ques--I do, but you know what I'm still smart enough to understand that brandishing a knife and not actually asking the question I want an answer to is going to get me poor results. If I go up to a practical stranger, kick them in the balls, then ask them out, when I really just wanted to know the time I can't use my autism and abusive mom to as an excuse. It's pretty common sense that that's just not something that you do to people and if you do, it's fair if they get mad at you.

Nor is saying she can't control herself a good excuse. It doesn't matter if sucking blood and becoming someone is her normal, or that she has some biological draw to do so. Again, people can't use the excuse that they were horny to get away with sexual assault. As long as Toga understands the difference between right and wrong, which she does, then her desire for blood isn't enough to give her a pass.

It's funny how you assumed mirko got damaged first when really shiagraki's attack amount to nothing and she got spare parts instantly. Also your outlook of her character is incredibly flawed and very ignorant. But going through your blog that seems to be the case for the majority of your mha takes.

Even though this one isn't about Toga, it seems pretty clear the reason they were brought to my blog was the post on Toga.

I didn't assume Mirko got damaged first--she literally was the first one to take a hit during this war. I didn't expect her to die or be out of the fight right away, I was just annoyed that Hori follows the pattern of hurting his adult female Heroes. Especially in Mirko's case because it's clear he just wants to draw her all sexy and bloodied up (I guess that's where Toga's fetish comes from lol).

As for my outlook on her character being flawed, I don't quite understand what you're talking about. Mirko isn't important to taking down Shigaraki. The only one who can take down Shigaraki is Izuku--the main character. He regenerates so any damage she does won't last. She might help wear him down along with Bakugou, but given Hori's track record with his previous female Pros I will be shocked if she doesn't get taken out of the fight pretty fast. The other Pros will most likely follow her so Bakugou can have his shining moment, but either way I don't see Mirko getting out of this fight without serious damage that will ultimately be drawn like soft core porn (just like last time).

It's not even that big a deal to me. It's annoying and it takes away from the story, but I'm used to fan service and sexist depictions of women in stories, particularly manga. But given how burnt out Hori seems to be and how awful mangaka are treated I can understand why he might want to draw some sexy ladies to get through it. It's still sexist and I'm going to point that out, but it's not the worst mistake that he's made in crafting this story.

So, that ends my angry asks. if I get anymore, especially like the first two I will just delete them and block the sender. I don't mind having minor debates but these were just insults. You can disagree with my takes, but either block me or explain your side without calling me stupid or using ableist slurs.

#hate mail

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I adore talking about this with you, it's so cool to be able to agree, everything I've read is just excusing yen lmao.

And with "geralt would rather do and say things Yen wants to avoid pissing her off" LIKE YEAHH I guess I annoyed yen with my answers and she teleported Geralt out of the tower thing, and then threatened to do it again like??? Like he pissed her off so she has fuck all care about him, was over water thank god but like girl??? omg and her refusing to tell the wticher bros what she was planning on doing to Uma, like I get that they would be hesistent but I mean it's cause it's cruel and painful and they have that trauma around that. She just expects everyone to do what she asks when she asks no questions. (Lambert's "I'm not geralt" when he and Yen are kinda arguring, bb red flags)

I just assumed she didn't believe him cause if she did whats her excuse for behaving how she is lmao??? Like you believe he has amnesia and you still blame HIM over the person who maniplated him KAY.

And goodddd that fucking scene when Triss and Yen see Ciri in Kaer Morhen is genuinely the worst, Triss and Yen see their sis/daughter (not gonna get into how weird I find it that Triss considers Ciri her sister and Geralt is Ciris father and she still wants to fuck him, uncomfy) for the first time in forever, she's alive and well and while Triss is hugging Ciri, Yen kisses Geralt and Triss throws a glare at her. I hated that scene so damn much, it's stupid and shouldn't have been there. (aso I get emotions and all but Yen kissing Geralt is so bitchy, idk even full of gratitude and emotion I wouldn't kiss the man who just dumped me lol, especially not in front of a situation like Triss)

I'm still mad about the women, I really wanted to like them fuck meeee

YOU GOT TO THE PART. Oh thank god, anon, I've wanted to talk about this since we started these conversations lol

Okay, let's set the scene, shall we? You arrive to find that, with our playthroughs anyway, your ex has barged into your home. I say "barged in" because although we (Geralt) know that Yen's help is necessary and she'll be tagging along, the other witchers living there are given no prior warning and, according to Vesemir, Yen teleported in without so much as a "Hello." She then immediately starts ordering everyone around like her servants, failing to explain the situation beyond there being a curse that they have to help with. No, this isn't negotiable. She (still being an ex) takes your old room for herself, which just happens to be the biggest in the keep, and proceeds to toss a bed out the window. It's only later that Vesemir recalls that Triss used to use it, so prior to that everyone apparently just accepted that Yen was destroying their stuff for no understandable reason. Classic Yen. You go upstairs to find her cursing a blue streak at her failed experiment and when you try to lighten the mood, she snaps at you. If you're of the opinion that Yen's every order must be obeyed, this is when you're supposed to drop the conversation entirely, because she said to. Except, funnily enough, you'd like to know why she's up here being The Worst Guest Ever and destroying your property. She tries to justify this by saying that destroying a bed is better than how she could be dealing with her anger over Triss. Be grateful and all that. Except, it's not really about Triss, is it? The line is "You shagged my friend. For upwards of a year. I don't know what your witcher's code says on the matter, but ordinary folk would consider it obscene, base, vile." The blame is not on the woman who knowingly manipulated Geralt into having sex with her while he was vulnerable, it's on Geralt himself! He is the "obscene, base, vile" person for... daring to have amnesia? And when you point that out - "Yen... told you already. I lost my memory" - she yells that she's "lost [her] patience" and teleports you into a lake! This is, apparently, how she really wants to deal with her anger. Not by destroying beds, but by attacking you for things outside of your control. And I do consider it an attack. Yen is meant to be insanely powerful, she is leveraging her magic as a weapon here, particularly when Geralt has spent the whole game commenting on how much he hates portals. Yen knows this. Not just because he says so in her presence, but because she frequently reads his mind, something else he's expressed discomfort with. She's not just demonstrating her power (controlling) and sending him away when he makes a point she doesn't want to acknowledge (immature), she chooses the one thing she knows makes Geralt uncomfortable, perhaps even scared. Then when you've swum your way back to shore and returned to, despite all this, begin her list of chores, she makes a dry comment about how next time she just might drop you high enough for the fall to be fatal. With the next time implied to be, you know, the next time you disagree with her. The next time you dare to do anything other than agree with her every belief and jump at her every command.

The fandom interpretation of all this: "Lol Geralt getting yeeted is so funny. And their banter is just 😍"

Me:

You mentioned red flags and yeah like that ENTIRE SCENE is a crimson banner for me. I mean, by all means, love the fictional ships that are super messed up (I often do), but it astounds me how many fans honestly think this is just a cute interaction with absolutely no problems attached. Nothing to question here, folks. I've mentioned before, but last I discussed this in depth the asker wanted to know if I'd been an asshole to Yen and... that's it. That's the perspective. Any disagreement with her, any pushback, anything that's not complete, blind obedience is something she will not permit AND something most fans take as a given. If you're not doing what Yen tells you to, you're automatically the asshole, and if you're the asshole, you automatically deserve any punishment she chooses to dish out.

Comic spoilers coming up if you want to skip, but this is made abundantly clear in "Curse of Crows." Yen and Geralt are at their best in the moment below, enjoying one another's company on a nice day. Yen asks if Geralt wants to swim and he says nah, he'd rather watch her. She appears to like that idea and, indeed, swims naked while Geralt admires from the shore.

Actually cute right? I really liked this moment! They're cuddled up together and exchanging smiles. It's a rare moment of peace where I can believe that they truly care for one another, outside of passionate sex and not wanting the other dead. Finally, something beyond that incredibly low bar.

...except Yen starts flirting with a young man who shows up, invites him to travel with them, all while refusing to explain why she's interested in his company. The sudden third wheel is clearly bothering Geralt, but Yen continues to ignore his questioning. The answer she finally gives later that night?

She did it purely to mess with Geralt! It's his "just desserts" for "refusing to swim with [her]." She is "not one to be refused - I thought you needed reminding" by giving him "a flick on the nose." When I say that Yen treats Geralt like a dog I mean she literally treats him like a dog. He's a servant who must jump at her every command and if he doesn't, he'll punished for disobedience. He might not even know why he's being punished for a long stretch because Yen enjoys making him think she's a normal person capable of accepting that he doesn't feel like swimming right now - insert the Kaer Morhen scene where she wants to go have sex upstairs, but Geralt wants to catch up with the brothers he hasn't seen in an age here - only to reveal that actually she's made their formerly nice outing uncomfortable because he needs to be put in his place. All of which is followed by, "So... willing to join me now?" The message is very clear! Geralt had better get his ass in that tub unless he wants to be punished some more. Whether he wants a bath right now or not is inconsequential.

This is also the run where she scares the women Geralt was with, despite them being separated right now. Why? "I could."

Claims that Geralt is allowed to return to his companions (who he actually waves away) only for him to realize she's cast a spell to burn him with the water. Yen loves pretending she's okay with things only to punish Geralt for them later - sometimes with physical punishments. And what would have happened if the women had actually joined him again? Do witchers weather hot water better than the average courtesan? Who knows, but Yen clearly doesn't care who might get hurt.

Just like her time in Skellige and at Kaer Morhen, she refuses to explain what's going on. She just expects people to obey her, so-called loved ones included. Geralt was to get her cider, and arrive before her bath went cold, not question what they're doing on this dangerous hunt. He's a servant.

And my favorite, petty moment: transforming her awful inn food into a lavish meal without offering to do the same for either Geralt or Ciri.

"But, Clyde, that's just the comics. They're not really canon." Nah, questions of canon aside, this is 100% Yen's characterization. She's prideful. Immature. Beyond controlling. And punishes anyone who dares to tell her "No." Fans are always pointing out that she's meant to be horrible, she could have been a villain in another life, like any of that explains why I'm supposed to root for this relationship or enjoy her existence outside of being a complex character. Yen is interesting, but she's interesting in a "I can't wait to see her get her own just desserts" way. Not "Wooo now I get to watch this story ignore her behavior again to push a True Love narrative."

She punished Geralt frequently during their first meeting, she punishes him whenever they get together, and, I think, she punished him during the reunion with Ciri. Given our playthroughs, do we really think that after breaking up with her and all this fury over Triss - an anger so deep she destroyed the bed and attacked Geralt - she's just overcome with such joy that she forgets they're not together anymore and forgets the anger she's been nurturing for years? Yen doesn't forget. She's staring at Ciri during that moment, right where Triss is currently running towards them, and then after a considering look at Geralt pulls him in for that kiss. That was calculated. She did that to make a claim she no longer had. To punish them both: make Triss uncomfortable by playing at the "perfect" family reunion; make Geralt uncomfortable by kissing him when she knows he doesn't feel the same way. But of course, the popular reading is that she just loves him so much she couldn't help herself. Riiight.

It's just all SO BAD. (Including, as you say, the ickiness of having Triss lusting after Geralt and referring to Ciri as "little sis.") I love a lot of the women in Witcher - Cerys is a fave, Ciri, Saskia, Philippa, Keira, etc. - but the two I'm supposedly meant to fall in love with are just the worst lol.

Basically:

Half the fandom: TEAM TRISS 🤬

The other half: TEAM YEN🤬

Me: TEAM REGIS 😭

#witcher #mymetas #long post

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softer-ua · 3 years

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in regards to what you pointed out a few posts ago, ngl one of my least favorite fandom things is when they make Kaminari the Har Har Stupid Joking ADHD Bi Playboy Who Is Never Serious Trope. like, he's very smart, 'worst in ___ area of a UA course' is very impressive and I don't remember if it even said that or just that he was studying with some other students, worried about his grades overall, calls himself stupid with implied insecurities about it, and didn't think he was very smart compared to the other people in the course. quirk overuse makes him loopy, incoherent, and think everything's funny. and yeah, he's a bit of a flirt and made a few perverted comments and actions that he clearly didn't think through that well. I'm pretty sure he's not ever stated to be bi in the manga because it was written by a coward, so I think people should think more about why they're associating and pairing together the idea of "hot flirty playboy who if legally able would sleep with everyone he meets" with emphasis or joke in the captions of whatever the content is on him being bi. I don't think this is inherently bad, even put together, but the execution feels kind of :/ and shallow. and I mainly just wish they'd pause to consider if there's any reason (subconscious or intentional) why one of those makes them think about the other, and at the very least lean back to see if they're blatantly making those traits centric around each other and tweak how they're showing them a little. Part of this is also because it's basically his fanon sexuality, but then they stick together "oh he's bi and everyone thinks that" and "he's made flirty or perverted comments and actions in canon at some point" and then mentally exaggerate and have this Canon Image of him as *waves hand at above* and I don't think that's happening consciously in most cases but. again. Cookiecutter Bi Party Playboy Who's Made a Date Offer to Everyone In The Building. not a flirty Person or a Playboy who is bi and flirts with more than one genders

I myself headcanon him as adhd and while the exact sexuality depends on my mood I think of/have him as bi in a lot of my content, but it's the same thing with why non adhd people see how he acts and label "adhd!" Especially about comprehension speed and derpy acting and intelligence and attention span jokes/tropes. Again, not bad in and of itself, but the specific parts of his behavior that make them think he's adhd, or that they start making jokes about or Ha Ha ADHD'ing, or that they think is why we project ADHD on him, (which they aren't necessarily wrong about, but like right in a really disrespectful look at how funny this is oh look squirrel way that's only funny when adhd people are doing it and it isn't all mocking like that) when they see other people calling him adhd, are the wrong ones, I think, and it shows in their characterization of him.

I'm not saying that any of those traits are bad in a character, but as a queer adhd girl with very high annual test scores and Gifted Kid Intelligence but extremely poor grades, focus, and brain damage (admittedly nothing like his, it was a longterm passive thing that mainly just made me have a Lot of Really Bad headaches, and closest thing it did to me was make me sluggish and emotional on bad days and also techincally have the potential kill my language bit if left untreated or the surgery messed up, which it didn't, and it won't be a problem again. but even after explaining that it wasn't cancer or any sort of tumor, and after seeing it do very little at all to affect my behavior outside of irritability and performance, because y'know, constant migraines, gone after the surgery but this was before that, Certain People I Was Vaguely Kind Of Acquaintances With started to treat my like I was a fragile glass thing going to to drop dead and revive myself speaking like a comic relief cartoon crazy person at any moment which was. patronizing.) I've since had surgery for, the way the fandom combines them into stereotypes and portrays them really just rubs me the wrong way- "Flirty Bi(tm) Playboy" "Har Har ADHD Can't Focus Or Get Things After They're Explained To Him, He's Still Confused And An Idiot" "Stupid Person With Brain Damage Who Can't Take Care Of Or Think For Themself And Acts Stupid And Funny For People To Laugh At" which tbh is super ableist even and especially when people irl do fit that description, and also reminds me of the Autistic Person Freaking Out And Being Dramatic sense of humor. And I know it's not helped by canon, because it done for comic relief and to limit his powers, but explored more I think it as a limitation could have been used way more interestingly than canon did and also call me biased but that quirk induced brain frying sounds at least as concerning as Izuku's quirk's backlash.

And it's a shame!! Because he's so much more interesting than that! Instead, the fandom gives me the Cookicutter Funny Bi ADHD Flirt Who's An Idiot and I am sad about it.

tbh it reminds me of what happened to percy jackson, esp with the ADHD Idiot Trope thing. which sucks because apparently it originated in the author making up stories around characters like his adhd and dyslexic kid inspired by Greek myths to tell him after running out of actual myths because it was his special interest and he wanted more. and then the series got kind of all over the place and the fandom processed that the adhd and dyslexic main character who does dumb things sometimes but is very combat smart and great at strategizing and leading gets bad grades and has trouble focusing and has, y'know, adhd, and made him the ADHD Idiot and erased his Gifted Kid girl friend's traits and ADHD and dyslexia into No Nonsense Calls Him an Idiot And Thinks He's Stupid And Has To Tell Him What To Do And Manage His Life For Him and honestly that just kind of sucks and it reminds me of what happened to fandom Kaminari. and now that I think of it people have jirou like that around him a lot too.

im fine with you answering this publicly if you want or have something to add but probably tag as ableism and maybe a biphobia mention content warning for people who don't have the energy to deal with thinking about those kinds of negative things rn because I kind of Went Off About It

I love this! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences 💚(and double thank you for tag suggestions)💚

I couldn’t agree more that a lot of fandom has messed up Kami’s character, which is why I’ve kinda been posting more about him cause he’s just stuck in my head.

I think a lot of fandoms have trouble with characters like this, people have a hard time with duality in characters and fast/fun posts are easier to make if you flatten a character down.

The did it to Kami, they did it to Percy, they did it to Ron Weasley, they do it to Thor, the list goes on. If being the Smart One ™️ isn’t your thing and you can be goofy than you get pigeonholed into the idiot trope.

I feel for Kami a lot(probably because I have adhd/brain damage too)

It sucks when you’re smart but it’s not the traditional, measurable kind of smart(even if by national comparison Kami technically is).

I got terrible grades growing up, and I pretty much got the absolute lowest gpa you can get and still graduate. But absolutely no one would have known if I didn’t tell them, because I’m not dumb.

(It’s okay if you are “dumb”, I love me a head empty just vibes friend. You’re 100% valid, stil worthy of joining discussions, and should be listened to and taken seriously. This just isn’t about that tho)

I joke sometimes that I’m clever and witty but not smart, because that’s exactly what it feels like.

I have lots of thoughts and ideas that I think I articulate pretty well, I am excellent at finding the humor in things and expressing it in a way that’s funny to others too, and there is almost zero problems I can’t find a work around. And the people in my life love it, and they love to use it.

But eventually everyone in my life finds out that I’m not smart. They see the way I have to pause to Google how to calculate a tip, that I don’t know the name of all 50 states or even where to find them on a map, or I legitimately just can not spell (if you ever see a post where it looks like I used a weird word choice it’s probably because I tried 4 times and autocorrect+Google couldn’t help me and voice to text wasn’t an option)

No one ever questions my intelligence until they find out about my adhd and/or catch me struggling with it. After the mask comes off it’s like they can’t even hear me anymore, nothing I say could be true or matter because I’m now just the goofy accident prone spacy girl. My family literally calls me Spacy

And ya know what sometimes I just let people think that because it’s easier, it’s easier than explaining that I’m dyslexic and that I didn’t have a single geography/history clas until 10th grade and shocker the capital of Iowa doesn’t come up much by then. And it’s easier for me to laugh off losing my keys again than dwell on the fact that sometimes it feels like I’m losing my marbles.

And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if after this post I get a lot more “fact checkers” and push back on anything else I post.(not talking about people who want to genuinely engage,y’all are always welcome, I’m talking those people who don’t wanna look it up themselves but no longer trust me to know what I’m talking about)

Kami is a sweet brilliant boy. He’s in a nationally high ranking school, he loves the weather channel, he’s careful about his quirk that could easily hurt his friends in combat, he has a very high emotional intelligence level, he wears dorky shirts with electricity puns on them, and he pays attention to his friends and remembers a lot of little things about them.

He wants to be a hero and he takes that seriously, and the series has tried time and time again to tell y’all that smiling and laughter are an important part of that. Kami excels at this part! So what if his history grades don’t rival the top of the class, the top 5 students would struggle hard to do what Kami does.

Iida can’t relax, Momos rather shy, Todo struggles with social cues, Midoriya is canonically not funny, and jfc where to even begin with Katsuki. I’m certain they’ll all grow up to be excellent heros in their own right, but none of them are going to bring the level of joy and camaraderie that Denki can. You can’t test that into someone.

Kami also just notices people differently and has any easy way of joining in with them, he doesn’t struggle approaching Katsuki or Shinso. Sure he doesn’t hit the the nail on the head the same way Deku does but he’s the only one who has the guts and skills to try. Also he’s not that kinda friend, he’s not looking to a save these guys but pal around with them

I think Kami 100% realizes what a special case and tough nut to crack Bakugo is, I don’t think he’s just careless or too dumb realize his life’s at stake or whatever.

I think he’s purposely testing Bakugos boundaries all while trying to not be a threat to Katsukis actual ego and calling Bakugo out when he needs it in a way that not to serious. Kami knows how to be just goofy enough that he’s approachable. He’s also keyed in that the way to Bakugo is through Deku, meanwhile everyone else is stuck believing the opposite.

Kami also realized how important music is to Jiro and saw an opportunity to let her display her skills and combin the two worlds she lives, and he wasn’t afraid to get some back lash from her for it.

Like Deku Kami isn’t afraid to be uncomfortable. You really can’t teach that level of social ease, you can teach the posture and feed people a couple of lines but it’ll never hit the same. Funny approachable people have spent a lifetime learning the craft, usually out of necessity.

It’s actually what gives me the biggest adhd vibes from him, because adhd is (speculated to be) a dopamine deficiency disorder. People with adhd are constantly trying to raise their dopamine levels, and that means looking for praise and reward and nothing makes the human brain light up faster than postative human connections.

Adhd children struggle a lot with connecting with peers and often find making people laugh a fast way into people’s circles and makes it more likely people will overlook being interrupted or spaced out on.

Also adhd people are pretty much forced by their own brain structures to be genuine in all they do, low dopamine levels make it very hard to do things you don’t enjoy because there no promise of dopamine from the activity and you don’t have enough to spare, plus impulsiveness makes it really hard to not show when you do or don’t enjoy something.

I agree that Kami is also painted as overly perverted at times, he’s a little flirty but in a fun casual way but it’s not the foundation of his personality and it’s really mellowed out over the course of the series.

And while I subscribe to the bi hc from his interactions with Jiro and Shinso, we should all be very mindful that we don’t lump these characteristics together. The are separate facets of his personality that are not dependent on each other in anyway.

Kami deserves all the respect and love, I can’t wait to see our electric king again 🖤⚡️🖤

#tw ableism #ableism #tw biphobia #biphobia #softy answers #I have a sorta sad one shot about Kami and his quirks effects #should i post it?

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lillupon · 3 years

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So, I've got a very long rant/opinion here and Idk really know how to say this without coming off kinda bad but I'm gonna say it anyways. I agree with the fact that the seventeen tag has been kinda dry lately on most fanfic places, but it's really only in the smut area. It's the sane way with other groups too I feel like. All of the nice little innocent tags are boomin to this day and thats completely fine. I think the smut tag is dry tho bc lately I feel like a few social issues (like sexualizing people and disrespecting them and their identity) have crossed over into kpop and have been ?blown out of proportion? Lately there's been a rampage of people who like to say that writing smut about someone is disgusting and is dehumanizing because people want to assume that it would make the idols uncomfortable which could equate to some morality issues on how you are reducing someone only to their body without their consent and a bunch of stuff like that. It kind of pisses me off bc this is fiction. About grown adults. Clamping down on horny people who simp over hot asian men isn't going to solve the issues we face in real life. I think a shit ton is wrong with the world we currently live in, and deciding to come after something that isn't even real bothers me. Like what does that actually accomplish. But yeah, I think thats a reason why smut has been dying down. I mean, on youtube almost every video about unpopular opinions, or things they dont like about kpop will include something about shipping idols in fanfics. And then everyone in the comment section will talk about how its all fine and dandy in moderation, but once people start writing smut it's crossing the idols personal boundaries. It's something I've been seeing a lot more often and I think people who are interested in writing smut are being turned away from it bc we've gotten to a point where people are being called disgusting for having fantasies.

Hi Anon, thank you for sending in this Ask.

I want to preface this by saying: when I write or talk about Mingyu and Wonwoo fucking on my blog, it is a fantasy. I am not speculating about what the real Mingyu and Wonwoo might be like in bed. I am imagining the versions of Mingyu and Wonwoo that I have created in my head, that exist only in my stories. None of it is real. I understand that this can be a blurry boundary for some people. But for me, the separation between fantasy and reality is well-defined. Now, on to your Ask!

You’ve hit the nail on the head with this one. You’ve also touched on many of the issues I have been struggling with myself as of late. It’s difficult to argue about morals since everyone has a different set of values, as well as different comfort levels. Some people think real person fiction (RPF) is a gross invasion of privacy. Others are fine with it. And others don’t care one way or another. There is no single answer; I can only offer my answer. Which means, of course, people are welcome to disagree with it, or parts of it.

In this essay (LOL But forreal: this is an essay), I will be sharing my experience in the k-pop fanfic community from 2014 to present, the etiquette I personally abide by as a reader and writer of RPF, as well as my stance on RPF in general.

I started reading and posting fanfics back in 2014/2015 on a website called AsianFanfics (AFF). Obviously, no one on that site had a problem with RPF, since AFF is a platform made specifically for sharing stories about Asian celebrities. For many years, I read and enjoyed RPF with zero guilt. I scribbled away by myself in my own corner of fandom and curated my own content. I didn’t interact much with other fans, readers, or writers. I didn’t have a Twitter, and I only used tumblr to reblog memes. As a result, I’ve been able to avoid a lot of anti-shipping discourse, as well as purity and cancel culture. I had no idea there were so many negative opinions about RPF. It wasn’t until I became active on the subreddit r/Fanfiction last year that I learned about all the discourse surrounding RPF.

This newfound ‘awareness’ does make me feel guilty at times—but only because after mulling this over, I still don’t think this is something to feel guilty about.

Here’s what I remember, first and foremost, when I create and consume RPF: fanfics and my favourite ships are fictional, and fiction is fantasy. This is basic etiquette when it comes to RPF, and most people in the k-pop fandom understand this. Delusional fans exist, of course, but they are not representative of the entire k-pop community.

Another point of etiquette is to keep fanfics within fandom spaces. I would never push my fics into celebrities’ faces, or go around claiming that my fanfics are accurate representations of a k-idol’s life or personality, in any way, shape, or form. I would also discourage directing ship-related questions to official accounts, or bringing them up during fansigns or other face-to-face interactions; I believe that in these instances, shipping does have the potential to strain real-life relationships.

So with basic etiquette out of the way, let me share my approach to RPF in general.

As much as we like to think we know our favourite celebrities, we really don’t. All we see is their public persona. And this public persona is intentionally controlled, managed, and curated by a team of people: directors, tabloids, editors, makeup artists, publicists, etc. How “real” are these celebrities? We are so distanced from them that they may as well be fictional.

I draw from the public persona that idols project, and I work them into my own writing. But at the end of the day, these personalities are my own interpretation. My interpretation is probably nothing like an idol’s actual personality. I just use the “public persona/character” that idols portray as inspiration for my own stories, which are set in wildly different universes.

More than anything, I think of k-pop idols as “actors” in my fic. You know how when you write an original novel, you scroll through Google images, looking for the perfect person to portray your original character? RPF is literally that, except you might build upon pre-existing dynamics and personalities.

When it comes to explicit fanfiction, two main concerns are prevalent: one of consent, and one of sexualisation.

If we argue against explicit RPF due to lack of consent, we should be willing to apply the same lens to all explicit works. How do we know that the creator of a movie, book, series, etc., is okay with us using their characters in our stories, explicit or not? We don’t. Perhaps some creators encourage fanfiction, but don’t want their lovingly crafted characters engaging in sexual acts or experiencing trauma. We just don’t know. I feel this line is even more blurred when we talk about characters from movies or TV series.

Let’s take Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes, as portrayed by Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan, from the Captain America movies as an example. I am willing to bet that when people consume and create explicit fanfiction about Steve and Bucky, they are imagining Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan in their heads. I doubt many people are imagining the 2D cartoon versions of Steve and Bucky, even though they’re technically the exact same characters. Why? Well, it could be because movies are more readily and easily consumed than comics, and so people are unfamiliar with comic book Steve and Bucky. But it might also be because fans find Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan attractive. Is this really any different from RPF, where fic authors make up everything about a celebrity’s life?

When readers and writers of fanfic talk about how hot Steve Rogers or Bucky Barnes is, those comments are about Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan’s bodies. When reading explicit stories, fans are going to picture Chris and Sebastian’s bodies in their head, doing sexual things. Can we say, “Well, it’s not really you, Chris/Sebastian”, when in a way, it is?

The reality is, people are going to thirst over celebrities, regardless of whether or not explicit fanfiction exists. They’re going to post thirst tweets on Twitter. They’re going to talk to friends and strangers online about how hot [insert celebrity name here] is. They’re going to fantasize about dating and having sex with their favourite celebrity. Or, as it is in my case, they’re going to make up stories in their heads about their favourite idols dating and banging each other. People are going to do all of this without ‘getting consent’ from the celebrity. Cracking down upon and shaming writers of RPF isn’t going to change any of that.

To be honest, I’m not sure why people think it is disgusting to imagine sexual scenarios about real people. It is okay and normal to have these kinds of fantasies. I suppose the alternative is to fantasise about having sex with cartoon characters instead? It’s a very binary way of thinking to say that if you imagine/write real people in explicit scenarios, you are immediately sexualising, dehumanising, or objectifying them. There is more to dehumanisation than writing smut about our favourite celebrities. For one thing, you can love someone and appreciate all parts of them, and still want to fuck their brains out. And generally, fanfics come from a place of love—love that is not only sexual in nature.

Is it the sharing aspect inherent to fanfiction? The possibility that a celebrity might stumble upon explicit works about them? The chances are very low, I think, of the k-pop idols I enjoy writing about coming across my English fics. But I also believe in curating your own content, and that applies to celebrities too. Perhaps a celebrity should not go searching for fanfics about themselves. And of course, people should not show celebrities their fanfics, unless invited.

Another argument I hear against (explicit) RPF is, “How would you feel if someone wrote fanfiction about you?” First off, I don’t like this argument because there’s a difference between someone who decides to be a public figure versus someone who decides to remain a regular private citizen. Celebrities should and do know what they’re getting into when they choose their occupation. (This is not to say, “They are celebrities; sexualise them all you want because that’s what they signed up for.” Here, I am only acknowledging that people might have sexual fantasies about celebrities they are attracted to. Presumably, celebrities are cognizant of this.)

If someone (whose existence I am not even aware of, mind you) decides they want to write explicit fanfiction of me in some tiny corner of the Internet, I wouldn’t care so long as: (1) they don’t shove it into my face, and (2) they don’t harass me and ask invasive questions about my personal life and relationships. It’s not hurting me or negatively affecting my life, so it wouldn’t even register as a blip on my radar. When fanfiction remains within its appropriate spaces, it is largely harmless.

Now, if a k-pop idol were to ask their fans to stop writing fanfiction about them, would I? Yes, I would. However, I can’t imagine that happening. Judging by the number of ‘sexy’ concepts, fanservice moments, and variety shows such as ‘We Got Married’, I am certain that k-pop idols realise they are the stars of many fantasies—some of which are explicit in nature. Considering the prevalence of shipping in the k-pop industry, I would argue that shipping is subtly encouraged.

It’s sad that so many talented writers are shamed out of fandom, or feel that k-pop cannot be the medium through which they tell their stories, or explore their sexuality, or cope with trauma, or simply have fun. Professional works and Hollywood love their RPF—readers and writers of fanfics should be able to, as well.

As you said Anon, “clamping down on horny people who simp over hot asian men isn't going to solve the issues we face in real life” (this is a lovely sentence, by the way). The kind of person who dehumanises another and reduces them to a sexual object will do so some other way, if not via fanfiction. I don’t think the issue of fetishisation can be fixed simply by telling people not to write explicit RPF. In my experience, people who read and write RPF are more respectful and thoughtful about these things than the general public. We’ve all seen the general public say highly sexual things about celebrities in the media and to their faces, or tag celebrities in their thirst tweets. Are these things less invasive than fanfiction? Personally, I don’t think so. And in my opinion, there are more pressing and damaging issues in stan culture than fanfic.

In conclusion, I don’t think there is anything wrong with creating and consuming RPF, both explicit and non-explicit so long as we:

Remember we are writing fiction

Keep RPF within its appropriate space, and

Do not harass celebrities about their personal lives and relationships

RPF is not for everyone. There may be people who enjoy RPF, but draw the line at explicit stories. This is fine. Everyone has their own personal preferences. What is not fine, however, is attacking people for creating things you don’t like. I’m not sure what kind of moral crusade people are on and what they hope to achieve by shaming writers of RPF, explicit or otherwise. Ultimately, fic authors are writing a fantasy. It’s not real; no one is being hurt. I think it’s important for people to curate their own content, and AO3 makes it very easy to filter out explicit works and unwanted tags.

Maybe this is me trying to justify my own participation in explicit RPF—I don’t know. What I do know is that I love k-pop, and fandom is an important part of my media and entertainment experience. I adore the k-pop idols I write about, and I just want to imagine them being happy and getting lots of love and orgasms. Let a bitch be horny, goddamn…

Some bonus fun facts!

At the time I am writing this, on AO3:

26.2% of Stray Kids fanfics are rated M or E

26.3% of Seventeen fanfics are rated M or E

29.0% of Merlin fanfics are rated M or E

34.9% of Captain America (Movies) fanfics are rated M or E

40.1% of BTS fanfics are rated M or E ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Coincidentally, I saw this post on Reddit this morning: Can we have a RPF positivity post?

#asks #my writing #fic & fandom #I keep coming back to fiddle and add things to this answer #but I think I've said all I wanted to now...

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Hi there, I was wondering if it would be ok to ask why did you tag a picture of SQH in a leotard as "laughs"? Since there is no dialogue or anything to make it clear there is meant to be a joke there, it comes across as his clothes are the joke? (Or there could be something I am missing. I'm known for not getting jokes.) I'm sure it isn't your intention but it does feel a little tiny bit not good if the laugh is a man in woman style clothing, because of transphobic reasons. Sorry to bother though

Hey! I definitely see your point - so, I'll answer your question, and go from there.

What to tag as "laughs" is a judgement call on my part. Yes, it's used obviously if there's a joke in the image or if the image/set of images is a comic, but I'll also use it if the comment at the bottom or if the tags in the original post state explicitly or imply that the artist perceived their work as in some way silly. So, in this case, the artist wrote,

"was debating posting this but then figured y not"

This alone would not have been conclusive; there might be many reasons that a person would write this about their own art (for example, they didn't like the outcome, they didn't take it seriously, they're worried how people will react, etc.) So, in this case, it was also based on the tags, which included:

"#dont question me #my boy in a fancy leotard #cuz y not"

Which, in my interpretation at the time (and, noting that I do work quickly, and my interpretations CAN be wrong and can also reflect my own internalized societal bullshit no matter how hard I try to have them not) I read as meaning that they saw the outfit as a bit of a joke. Looking at it again now...I do think I read into that a more than I should have. I do think there's a mild implication of humor, but not enough that I should have made an assumption, and of course people who see svsssartreblogs don't see the original tags anyway, so they wouldn't know. So, yeah, that's a problem on my end.

I was also colored by the fact that it's specifically a silly leotard: it's in bold bright colors, it's got enormous boob plates, it's got a big flowing cape. Now again, my interpreting these features as "silly" is subjective and absolutely could reflect internalized transphobia (or...anti drag queen? is there a word for that?). Like, if you look through the blog, you'll see plenty of images of people in clothing that would be considered "not gender conforming" and I don't tag them ALL laughs, because many didn't have signs that (as I interpreted at the time I did the tagging) a joke was implied, whereas in this specific case, I did think I saw signs it was meant to be a bit silly, but as I said, I do see your point, and I think it's valid criticism, and I'm going to remove the tag.

But, I am going to point out - you should check yourself too, anon. A man in a leotard =/= trans ANYTHING. People in non-gender-conforming-clothes have nothing at all to do with trans people, and if you see "man in flamboyant female-coded clothes" and somehow automatically jump to "they're trans and anything said about their outfit is transphobia" that's, uh...that's something? Or if you're implying *I* think those things have to do with being trans...I literally have a tag for trans characters and I didn't use it, so...no? The mistake I made was seeing the various hints and concluding with "man in flamboyant female-coded clothes" = "joke." That's way more an expression of my internalized homophobia, not my internalized transphobia, and I think you should maybe examine your own internalized stuff if you automatically think it had something to do with trans people.

So, yeah. The tag is now gone, because I think your point is essentially a valid one. "Don't mark a piece of a person in flamboyant gender non-conforming clothes as 'laughs' cause that's a little yuck" DOES make sense to me, and thus, change is being made.

(also: yes, it's ALWAYS okay to ask why I chose a specific tag, because I don't mind explaining, and I do make mistakes, and as you can see, I'm not at all above changing things and acknowledging my fuck ups. We all work through the lens of what society has inculcated us with, and if we want to be good people, fair and just and open to all, we do our best to not let that lens color our thinking, but even with the best of intentions, mistakes will get made, so thank you, I appreciate you asking and forcing me to check myself, I really think we all need those checks from time to time.)

(also also: sorry I'm apparently very verbose this morning. See also: I just wrote "very verbose" unironically.)

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eldritch-queern-magicat · 4 years

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👑Magicat👑Horde👑

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*space for pinned updates*

I'm wholeheartedly encouraging anyone visiting my blog to send me music recommendations. Just give me a bit about why any particular song or artist/band. Tell me all about your favorites and why you enjoy what you do. Language is not a barrier, I want to explore the whole world through music.

Ask Me Anything about my disabilities and path of recovery. This includes trigeminal neuralgia, DID, and ADHD, plus other consequences from them and my trauma. Open indefinitely.

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Welcome to the Magicat Horde, we are Legion, also known in real life as Cari. Call us whatever, we don't really mind. We're an actively recovering polyfragmented DID system with more issues than Marvel and DC comics combined. Feel absolutely free to ask us things or send whatever fun stuff, anon is on if you prefer it that way. The idea of this blog is really just individual parts expressing themselves more, and being as weird as we want to be within the relative safety of an personal blog. This is going to be both silly and personal at various points.

This post, below the cut, serves as an introduction to many of our known alters in the system. This list isn't entirely chronological (or even anywhere close to exhaustive), but more of estimates based on first appearance, or based on what makes the most sense. This will also be continually updated as things go, both for more accuracy and new parts. It's mostly because I have a history of splitting new parts at almost the drop of a hat from living in a state of constant stress until the last few years (2021 on). That said, there is also a selection of alters that are not comfortable being listed or referred to. This is often due to their sources, where they're still putting together a new sense of self they're at peace with.

Also keep in mind that I'm legally an adult in my early 30s. I will tag my stuff to the best of my ability, especially if my topic is more mature, but I'm not going to censor my experiences. And those do get extremely traumatic. Filter what you need to (foster care, ramcoa, face pain, self harm, vent tags, (Christian) cult tags, etc). And a lot of my healing has also involved sexual liberation, so I try to make sure that's properly tagged.

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Occasionally we still have moments of open mouth, insert foot. I think that's true of everyone at some point. I will always try to own up to my mistakes. Just talk to me because otherwise I may not see it right away. And that's honestly worse.

I'm historically socially awkward and still kind of figuring out the finer points of interacting with other people. I didn't get a lot of very good socialization in my early childhood. A lot of my childhood was spent in very rural communities (one was literally the middle of nowhere, not even a village), as well as being generally socially isolated from my peers. So all I ask is you be polite and respect that people are not perfect. Purity culture is a bunch of toxic nonsense and I'm not going to tolerate it.

I also don't tolerate bigots. Bigotry is my main DNI. I don't believe in being a jerk to people just because they're different. You will be told to basically fuck off. You can also just go ahead and fuck off without saying anything if you want to try claiming I'm faking any of this. I literally don't have the patience for it. This entire blog is colorful and fun because it's the only way half the shit I deal with doesn't just completely wreck my psyche. One of the best cures for pain is having as much fun you can. If you have a problem with that, you can always leave.

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If you're interested, we do have other social media. You can find us at LunarMageSilverRose on Instagram. We share whatever there sporadically, it's like a photo journal. We are pretty consistently on the app because we follow a bunch of cat/animal accounts for the warm fuzzy feelings they give us, though.

We follow from @lmsr-lilitu-sephiroth Other sideblogs are exactly what they say on the tin. @magicclanofcats

@magicatbirdwatchers @magicatsloveallcreatures @magicatfloramode @magicatartgallery

@magicatshinycollection @magicatmusiccollection @magicatfoodieworld

@magicatfashionwatch

@magicathauntednest

@magicatadorespokemon

@magicatevilious

@magicatkingdomhearts

@magicattarotresource

@magicathordeofwritingtips

@magicatartstuffdump

@magicatdivineshitpostcollection

@drone-unit8454 (this is not to be made into anything but a fun roleplay; do not expect this to be a sexual thing; please read the pinned post for further details if you're curious)

@leatherlaceandrope (this is my NSFW sideblog where I have fun with kinky adult stuff; it goes without saying that if you're under the age of eighteen, stay away; just wait until you're legally an adult I promise there are other things for you to do)

❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩷❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩷

Rhodes 🗝️😻

Android fae, dark/electric type, fairy tera Male-He/him/his, it/its Avatar of Chaos

Quentin ☄️😺

Demon, dark/fairy type, fire tera Male-It/its Guardian of the Void

Red 📱😺

Data fae, fairy/electric type, steel tera Demigirl-Fae/faer/faerself Guardian of Cyberspace

Luna 🧯😺

Angel, psychic/fairy type, ghost tera Agender-It/its Guardian of Spacetime

Jaden 🍹😺

Polymorph, grass/ice type, fairy tera Genderfluid-They/them/theirs Master of the Otherworld

Banica 🍷😺

Demon, dark/psychic type, ghost tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of the Graveyard

Blake 🧭😺

Vampire, fighting/dark type, fighting tera Male-He/him/his King of Underworld

Beelz 🌾😺

Demon, bug/ghost type, ground tera Male-They/them/theirs The Wild Gardener

Pooh 🍯😺

Bear, fairy/normal type, ghost tera Male-He/him/his Fuel Station Attendant

Andrew ⚓😺

Demon, dark/poison type, water tera Male-He/him/his King of Arthropods

Bapho 🦴😺

Demon, ground/fire type, dark tera Male-He/him/his Guardian of Sand

Kyle 🐚😺

Mutant, water/psychic type, poison tera Male-He/him/his Prince of Storms

Joey 🥁😺

Mutant, fighting/dark type, dragon tera Male-He/him/his Lord of Dragons

Pikachu 🍙😺

Pokémon, electric type, fairy tera Male-It/its Lord of Creatures

Rae 🕯️😺

Vampire, psychic/fire type, ghost tera Female-She/her/hers High Priestess

Cyan 🧵😺

Dragon, dragon/ghost type, fairy tera Agender-It/its, they/them/theirs Fairy-Gator Guardian

Tommy ♻️😺

Human, ground/fighting type, steel tera Male-He/him/his Rehab Coach

Mewtwo 🧿😺

Pokémon, psychic type, ghost tera Nonbinary–it/its Nursery Guardian

Fox 🪡😺

Demon, ghost/grass type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Lord of Roses

Hayes 🌡️😺

Demon, dark/fighting type, fire tera Male-He/him/his Watchtower Keeper

Ghostie 🏓😺

Human, fighting/psychic type, dark tera Male-He/him/his Delivery Guy

Link 🕹️😺

Hylian, fighting/steel type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Guardian of the Dark World

Siren 🍧😺

Fae, ghost/fairy type, dark tera Agender-Xe/xem/xyrs Lord of the Shadow Realm

Hadron 🧹😺

Human, psychic/flying type, fairy tera Male-He/him/his King of Brooms

Papa 🌶️😺

Pokémon, fire/psychic type, ghost tera Male-He/him/his Guardian of the Dead

Isaac 🖋️😺

Human, psychic/ground type, ice tera Male-He/him/his Head Librarian

Eric 🎈😺

Human, dark/grass type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Prince of Trees

Quartz ⌚😺

Crystal, rock/psychic type, fairy tera Agender-It/its Guardian of Stones

Mercuria 📻😺

Digimon, steel/poison type, dragon tera Nonbinary-It/its Guardian of Mirrors

Miles 🎤😺

Human, water/rock type, fairy tera Female-She/her/her Just a regular teen

Jasper 💎😺

Human, ground/dark type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his The Rock Inspector

Theodore ⏰😺

Human, fighting/rock type, steel tera Male-He/him/his The Adventurer

Medusa 🫖😺

Monster, dark/ghost type, psychic tera Female-She/her/hers Labyrinth Guardian

Marene 🌻😺

Human, psychic/poison type, bug tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of Hope

Jared 🍿😺

Vampire, dark/psychic type, ghost tera Male-He/him/his The Missing Link

Ellyon 🪞😺

Human-ish, fire/steel type, psychic tera Female-She/her/hers Avatar of the Sun

Elpizo 🗡️😺

Reploid, steel/fighting type, dark tera Male-He/him/his The queerest android

Ed 🍕😺

Human-ish, fighting/steel type, ghost tera Male-He/him/his Dreaming Alchemist

Louis ⚜️😺

Human, fire/steel type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Guardian of the Sun

XY 🥑😺

Human, psychic/fairy type, dragon tera Female-She/her/her Princess of Stars

Mia 📚😺

Human, psychic/ghost type, psychic tera Female-She/her/hers Historian

Agatha ⚙️😺

Human, steel/electric type, psychic tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of Robots

Viole 🌀😺

Unknown, fighting/psychic type, dragon tera Male-He/him/his Errand Manager

Agnes 📌😺

Human-ish, ice/steel type, fire tera Male-He/him/his The evil genius

Jackie 🍦😺

Human, fighting/poison type, fighting tera Female--She/her/hers Potions Master

MA 🔮😺

Human, psychic/poison type, fairy tera Female-She/her/hers The Playwright

Seraph ⏳😺

Angel, psychic/steel type, fairy tera Female-She/her/hers Ringmaster

John 🥤😺

Human, fighting/rock type, poison tera Male-He/him/his Arcade Manager

Catra 🧨😻

Feline, dark/fighting type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Lord of Cats

Glimmer 🪓😺

Human, psychic/steel type, fairy tera Female-She/her/hers Queen of Light and Dark

Remmy 🧳😺

Storm fae, electric/water type, fairy tera Female-She/her/hers Lord of Clouds

Arco ☕😺

Human, fighting/psychic type, normal tera Male-He/him/his Coffee Master

Izzy 💻😺

Data, electric/steel type, ghost tera Male-He/him/his Page of Arrows

Camilla 🍀😺

Vampire, psychic/grass type, dark tera Female-She/her/hers King of the Forest

Sable 🍄😺

Mutant, fighting/poison type, dark tera Nonbinary–They/them/theirs The Cursed Jester

Clarisse 🌂😺

Vampire, rock/ice type, ghost tera Female-She/her/hers King of the Dead

Simon 🎙️😺

Human, normal/steel type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Commentary Management

Freekz 🎣😺

Humanoid alien, fighting/psychic type, fighting tera Male-He/him/his The Hunter

Angie 🧸😺

Tiger, dark/electric type, fighting tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of Silence

Em 🐜😺

Chimera, bug/fighting type, bug tera Male-He/him/his Lighthouse Keeper

Noah 🧪😺

Human, steel/dark type, poison tera Male–He/him/his Head researcher

Neo 🦠😺

Undead, dark/ghost type, dark tera Male-He/him/his The Undead Prince

Weaver 🕸️😺

Human-ish, dark/psychic type, poison tera Female- She/her/hers The Dark Mother

Shay ⛺😺

Human, fire/dragon type, ice tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of Trails

Gilbert 🎉😺

Human, ground/ice type, water tera Male-He/him/his Field Researcher

Scarlet 🪦😺

Demon, dark/poison type, steel tera Female-She/her/hers Avatar of Wolves

Brook 🐇😺

Death fae, dark/fairy type, fairy tera Male-He/him/his Guardian of Magic Creatures

Chase ⚖️😺

Ghost, normal/ghost type, ghost tera Male-He/him/his The Bad Guy

Terry 💣😺

Data, normal/ghost type, electric tera Male-He/him/his Yet another troubled teen

Amy 🖲️😺

Human, ice/water type, electric tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of Water

Alita 🎍😺

Human, ground/electric type, rock tera Bigender-She/her/hers, he/him/his Guardian of Storms

Hunter 🪀😺

Human, electric/dragon type, dragon tera Male-He/him/his Chaos Incarnate

Matt 🧃😺

Undead fae, dark/fairy type ghost tera Gender not found-It/its The Undead Unicorn

Rex 🎭😺

Half-blank, ghost/fighting type, dark tera Male-He/him/his Prince of Nobodies

Lyss 🪙😺

Human, fairy/fighting type, ghost tera Female-She/her/hers The Well-Intentioned Optimist

Bell 🥭😺

Blank, ghost/fairy type, fighting tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of Nobodies

Lungs 🎲😺

Human, electric/fighting type, steel tera Male-He/him/his Guardian of the Library

Irina 🔪😺

Doll, dark/fairy type, fire tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of the Court

Az 🍔😺

Human, ghost/poison type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Burger Master

Nemona 👾😺

Serpent, fighting/poison type, dragon tera Nonbinary-They/them/theirs Pro Pokémon Trainer

Elena 🏹😺

Elf, grass/psychic type, flying tera Female-She/her/hers Queen of Arrows

Say ⏲️😺

Human, psychic/ice type, poison tera Female-She/her/hers The Clockworker

Amelia ⚔️😺

Storm fae, grass/electric type, steel tera Female-She/her/hers Eldritch Guardian

Elo 📜😺

Earth fae, grass/ground type, psychic tera Nonbinary-They/them/theirs Queen of the Forest

Lapis 🐦😺

Human-ish, ghost/psychic type, fairy tera Female-She/her/hers The Dark Lord

Enoch 🍁😺

Vampire, psychic/steel type, ghost tera Male-He/him/his Lord of Pillows

Bryan 💀😺

Human, fighting/dark type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Dungeon Guide

Jay ⚡😺

Human, psychic/dragon type, fighting tera Male-He/him/his Serpentine Battle Mage

Hector 🎯😺

Vampire, fighting/ice type, psychic tera Male-He/him/his Café Manager

Kes 🥧😺

Human, grass/flying type, fairy tera Female-She/her/hers Greenhouse Keeper

Kay 🩸😺

Human, psychic/dark type, fighting tera Male-He/him/his Café Maid

Eyes 🌸😺

Demon, psychic/steel type, fighting tera Male-He/him/his Guardian of Demons

Julian 🥟😺

Human, fighting/poison type, fairy tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of the Carnival

Val 🍰😺

Vampire, fighting/fire type, electric tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of the Otherworld

Altera 🍑😺

Human, ghost/normal type, ice tera Female-She/her/hers Princess of Cards

Vi 🌷😺

Werewolf, steel/rock type, psychic tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of Pillows

Xylophone 🐝😺

Human, bug/psychic type, rock tera Male-He/him/his Housekeeping

Aria 🪭😺

Android, psychic/poison type, dark tera Agender-She/her/hers, it/its System Server Host

Rosabela 💍😺

Human, poison/fairy type, ghost tera Female-She/her/hers Guardian of the Theater

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Oh, surprise!

You scrolled through the whole post. For that alone, you get another song! I'm literally a Pokémon super fan. It was one of the few constants growing up, no matter where I was living. I've been enjoying the franchise since the very early Kanto days, and I don't plan to stop, ever.

Music is also like blood to me. Or air. It's in my DNA and I literally cannot be without it. It helps me ground myself. So this is also totally an excuse to express my love of it.

I drove two uncles nuts with this song (Shimmy, Shimmy, Ko-Ko-Bop) when I was little. I was in the dining room on Grandma's old, old computer playing computer games. The adults were in the kitchen playing, or watching, Magic The Gathering. I was entirely oblivious to anything outside of the pre-installed space arcade game I was having fun with and my CDs.

Seriously, though, my parents supplied all the music I could ever want. It was largely either country, rock, or soundtrack, but Dad has always been extremely eclectic (jazz, blues, classical, just about whatever). His favorite thing to say about it is ‘Bach to rock’. Mom used to make CDs for me from music they collected on her computer, through middle and high school. I also treasure the CDs given to me by friends in particular. Sometimes they straight up gave me the CD, and other times, they made me a copy.

I wish I was immortal largely just for the music of the future, as long as people are making it. I seek and desire to create beauty around me. And if art is how you decorate space, music is how you decorate time.

#meet the alters #master list #dissociative identity disorder #did #polyfragmented #polyfragmented system #did system #introject heavy #Spotify

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lyllyan-weiss · 5 years

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LONG Character Survey: Lyllyan Weiss

BASICS.

FULL NAME: Lyllyan Aster Weiss

NICKNAME: Lyl, Lily, Lil' Lily.

AGE: 21

BIRTHDAY: 11th Sun of the 6th Astral Moon (November 10th)

ETHNIC GROUP: Auri|Xaela (In Eorzea)/ Human (Out of World)

NATIONALITY: Eorzean (In Eorzea)/American (Out of World)

LANGUAGES: Eorzean, Draconic, basically anything due to the echo.

SEXUAL ORIENTATION: She is Bi. Swings both ways. She loves all.

ROMANTIC ORIENTATION: Biromantic

RELATIONSHIP STATUS: Depending on the different routes on the story, she will be either single or taken.

CLASS: Jack-of-all-trades

•Knows everything and knows how to play everything.

• Favors caster classes above everything else.

HOMETOWN / AREA: N/A

CURRENT HOMETOWN / AREA: Shirogane is where her apartment is, but she sees Ishgard as her home that she spends her time in, and then the Crystarium had became home to her as well.

PROFESSION: Scion, Adventurer, Full time hero in both her world and Eorzea. In her world she is a waitress and an artist/animator.

PHYSICAL.

HAIR: Right now it is Brown with Light brown Highlights

EYES: Purple (Right), Green (Left)

NOSE: Small and Sharp

LIPS: Small and full

COMPLEXION: Pale but fair.

BLEMISHES: None.

SCARS: In Eorzea, her scars are battle scars that is more aligned on her back. They do not show up when she is in her world.

TATOOS: The Scion Tatoo on the part where the neck and back meet.

HEIGHT: 5'0

WEIGHT: 130lb (Eorzea)/ 150lb (Her World)

BUILD: Short, Thin and fit.

FEATURES: None really.

ALLERGIES: Rolanberries in Eorzea, Strawberries in her world.

USUAL HAIRSTYLE: Long hair with a half braid in the back in Eorzea. In her world she has short hair that stops in the middle of her neck.

USUAL FACE LOOK: Warm color Eye shadow applied lightly to the eyes and a very nude color for lipstick in Eorzea. In her world, she hardly puts make up on, but usually has dark circles due to being tired all the time.

USUAL CLOTHING: Depending on her mood, she'll go very modest, or wearing a bikini with thigh boots. In her world, she is always modest with usually a t-shirt and sweats.

PSYCHOLOGY.

FEARS: Bugs (Mainly Arachnids, spiders are the worst.) Antilions that hide in the sands. Losing her love ones. Becoming Sin Eater. Being alone. Falling.

ASPIRATIONS: Explore all of the worlds she could go to, but also to make animations that can change the world.

POSITIVE TRAITS: Stubborn, happy go lucky, Compassionate, tries to take care of everyone, protective, loving, friendly, trusting.

NEGATIVE TRAITS: Stubborn enough to push past her limits, usually getting her hurt. She so selfless that she tends to forget about taking care of herself. She can be too trusting of others that she often gets hurt in the end. She usually bottles her problems with the worry of being a burden to others. Very emotional driven (Just ask Ser Zephirin).

ZODIAC: Scorpio.

TEMPERAMENT: Artistic and Motherly

SOUL TYPE(S): The Priest, The Artisan, The Server.

ANIMALS: Cat

VICE HABIT(S): From the definition that I read, her faults are that she feels like anything bad that happens to her or her friends are her fault, and that she sometimes Envy others. But her hobbies that she enjoys are reading, triple triad, drawing, and writing.

FAITH: The Twelve. Even in her world she believes in the Twelve.

GHOSTS?: Definitely

AFTERLIFE?: I hope there is one.

REINCARNATION?: Well so far that we know, reincarnation is a thing, right?

ALIENS?: I doubt the world was made for one type of civilization, plus multiple worlds. Yes.

POLITICAL ALIGNMENT: Uh...Alphinaud does politics for me.

ECONOMIC PREFERENCE: Just trying to survive, man. Stable, I guess.

SOCIO POLITICAL POSITION: Uh... Alphinaud???

EDUCATION LEVEL: Lyllyan herself has had up to some college in her own world. In Eorzea, she has an understanding of Aether and well has learned all the classes, so being able to pick up something new, she can learn fairly quick.

FAMILY.

FATHER: Captain Carebear (Mykel Weiss)

MOTHER: She doesn't have the ability to go to Eorzea so her name is Lynn Weiss.

Siblings: Lucas Weiss(Rafien Dalarain(Deactivated)), Nathaniel Weiss(Random Guy (deactivated)), Olivia Weiss (Never been to Eorzea).

EXTENDED FAMILY: Grandmother(Nana)(Deceased), Granfather(Poppy), Fortemps Family (Rest in Peace Haucherfaunt).

NAME MEANING(S): Lyllyan is based off of the Lily flower. Aster is based off of the Aster flower, and then Weiss is a name given to those with white hair or pale complexion.

HISTORICAL CONNECTION: Um...Ascian? Amourotine?

FAVORITES.

BOOK: If its Manga, It's Rurouni Kenshin. Books would be the 'Septimus Heap' series by Angie Sage.

MOVIE/PLAY: Movie would be 'Wizard of Oz'. Favorite Play would be 'Hamilton'.

5 SONGS:

•'Seasonal Feathers' by Len and Rin Kagamine

•'Drakkar' by Distrion and Electro-Light

•'Light it Up' by Robin Hustin and TobiMorrow (feat. Jex)

•'Stitches' by Shawn Mendes

•'Perfect' by Ed Sheeran

DEITY: Thaliak

HOLIDAY: Valentione

MONTH: November/ 6th Astral Moon

SEASON: Spring

PLACE: Rak'Tika Greatwoods

WEATHER: Rain

SOUND: Ocean waves.

SCENT(S): Cherry Blossom, sweet.

TASTE(S): Favorite food is Bacon so....also likes sweet things.

FEEL(S): Fuzzy blankets, warm cloth, soft.

ANIMALS: She loves all animals! If she had to narrow it down, it would be Cats, Pandas, and Chocobos. Does Pokemon count?

NUMBER: 8 but screw Construct 8

COLORS: Purple, light green, light blue.

EXTRA.

TALENTS: Drawing.

BAD AT: Math. She used to bring her homework to Eorzea to have Alphinaud and Urianger help her.

TURN ONS: Oooo. Funny, kind, calm, generous, but also romantic.

TURN OFFS: Selfish, rude ass hoe, and killing my friends.

HOBBIES: Singing, Drawing, Reading, Exploring, Triple Triad.

TROPES: Mother Hen.

AESTHETIC TAGS: Chocolate and Caramel. Honey. Lavender and Leaves. I think that's how this works???

FC INFO.

MAIN FC(S): Scions of the Dawn. It consist of Dad and myself.

ALT FC(S): None.

OLDER FC(S): We did have an FC on Gilgamesh called Lionheart with the Tag FF8. It was one that we had started the game when we got out of beta, but moved to different server/data center.

YOUNGER FC(S): *Confused Au Ra noises*

VOICE CLAIM(S): ??????

GENDERBENT FC(S): *Even more confused Au Ra noises*

MUN QUESTIONS.

Q1: IF YOU COULD WRITE YOUR CHARACTER YOUR WAY IN THEIR OWN MOVIE, WHAT WOULD IT BE CALLED, WHAT STYLE WOULD IT BE FILMED IN, AND WHAT WOULD IT BE ABOUT?

•So, I'm already making a comic that I want to make as an animation for the story of FFXIV with my character and her friends. This character was specifically built for FFXIV, but it has a twist. Kinda like a Sword Art Online ordeal, but instead of Millions of people playing are stuck in the world, it's just like 100, but they aren't stuck, in fact they are just chosen to go between their world and Eorzea. If they die, they don't actually die, but respawn, even in their own world, but they feel how they die and the only way for them to die in any shape or form is by natural cause like old age or sickness. This would be a 2D animation in the anime style and be a multi episode series with multiple seasons. I even though about branching out to go certain routes so that Lyllyan can end up with all my favorite characters. I would call it Final Fantasy XIV: A World Reborn.

Q2: WHAT WOULD THEIR SOUNDTRACK/SCORE SOUND LIKE?

•With it being a Final Fantasy story, it would have Final Fantasy Music.

Q3: WHY DID YOU START WRITING THIS CHARACTER?

•Lyllyan Weiss was made to represent me and she still does, but also inspires me to be more like my courageous heroic self. Because of this, I have been able to do things like crossing a bridge that's in bad shape to get to the other side without the fear of falling, just to get back to my mom who went to the other side on a trip we had.

Q4: WHAT FIRST ATTRACTED YOU TO THIS CHARACTER?

•She is literally me.

Q5: DESCRIBE THE BIGGEST THING YOU DISLIKE ABOUT YOUR MUSE.

•Just like me, she is stubborn and hard working, but there are times she pushes herself way too much. She hesitates to ask for help, not because she doesn't trust the people around her, but more of trying to not burden them. Others wish she would open up to them and also rest when she can. Raha has to literally force her to rest, and she nearly gets herself killed against the first battle with Rahjit because she kept getting back up to fight even when the others beg her to stop.

Q6: WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN COMMON WITH YOUR MUSE?

•Almost everything. Major thing is that she doesn't look like me, but also I know when to quit.

Q7: HOW DOES YOUR MUSE FEEL ABOUT YOU?

• I feel like if Lyllyan and I were to meet in person, we'd get along just fine. We would play video games all day long if we could.

Q8: WHAT CHARACTERS DOES YOUR MUSE HAVE INTERESTING INTERACTIONS WITH?

•OH BOI HERE WE GOOO

- Leveilleur Twins: Alphinaud and Alisaie are very close to Lyllyan. Alphinaud used to pull Lyllyan out of class to have her hurry up and go through the story, now its chill and play ace attorney. Alphinaud, depending on what route is taken, is definitely in love with Lyllyan and is constantly teased about it by everyone. Alisaie is like a sister to Lyllyan. They have had many nights where the pulled 24 hours playing Sims. Alisaie is who Lyllyan tries to protect the most between the two. She's also the reason why Lyllyan is now Bi. Lyllyan absolutely adores her and if the route is taken, they end up being the cutest couple.

-Leon D'hart: An Alt character that I made that depending on the story and route, he is also Lyllyan's Lover. He is a character made by Square Enix to be the Warrior of Light replacement if Lyllyan did not succeed in preventing herself becoming a light warden. His story with her is a bunch of trial and tribulations, but in the end they do end up married.

-G'raha Tia/Crystal Exarch: The main story Lyllyan's Lover. Great friend to start out and tears were shed when he sealed himself into the tower. He really kept Lyllyan guessing when he was Exarch. When Emet-Selch kidnapped him, Lyllyan was hellbent on getting him back. Now she visits him at the first everyday bring stuff from Eorzea for him, and even occasionally stuff from her world. He is her world as she is to him.

-The Scions: Thancred and Lyllyan are like Big brother, Little sister. He protects her, and scolds her as such. They may act like they hate each other, but the moment either gets hurt, the other is at their sides. Though rumor has it that Thancred had feelings for Lyllyan. Y'shtola is close to Lyllyan, but is usually not around often. Shtola usually is often around to keep an eye on Lyllyan's aether since her amount is quite high compared to the others and her fellow Warriors of Light. Urianger is someone who used to hardly talk to Lyllyan, but started opening up more after the years. He had watched her grow from 15 moons to now 21 as the others, but they seem to be more special to him. Lyllyan swore to protect him if anything ever happened especially after he asked her her thoughts on his new attire. Tataru is a precious angel and if anyone was to hurt her, Lyllyan would kill everyone and then herself. Ryne, even though she is not a scion, she is a scion. Ryne worries about Lyllyan, but is often in awe of her. Lyllyan and Thancred adopted her, and she's ended up calling Lyllyan mom on many occasions.

-Ser Aymeric: Depending on the route, he would be Lyllyan's Lover and he tries to protect her when he can, be it politics or in war. He has a dream to journey with her, and though he can't do so with Lylyan Weiss the Au Ra, there is nothing saying he can't make a character and become a Warrior of Light himself and travel with Sakura Yue(Lyllyan's Alt).

-Zenos Yae Galvus: So this guy commits Seppuku and then shows up at Lyllyan's job as her new Bartender. They end up becoming friends through the job, and the fact that Zenos is bored out of his mind that he can't go kill people,but finding out later that he is back makes Square Enix themselves worried about this guy.

-Estinien: Lyllyan had adopted him as her Edgy Son. He hates it. He reminds her that he is older than him, and she retorts about beating him as a Lalafel. He usually starts brooding after that on a high building that usually takes Alphinaud and Ser Aymeric to get him down.

•I'm only stopping this cause there are so many more characters!!!

Q9:WHAT GIVES YOU INSPIRATION TO WRITE YOUR MUSE?

•Music and Playing Final Fantasy. Mainly XIV, but others do count too, but also reading all the other fanfiction and comics about final fantasy XIV.

Q10: HOW LONG DID THIS TAKE YOU TO COMPLETE?

About...4 hours? Maybe more? My hands definitely hurt from all the typing! XD

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lasiiurus-archived · 7 years

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CLOSING THIS BLOG.

after much contemplation, after many nights spent listening to the various Hans Zimmer scores to the Trilogy, i have made the decision to close this blog. this is a somber decision of mine, but one i feel is absolutely necessary and, at heart, is what is best for me. as some of you may have seen, i've been a little lacking in posting recently. i don't really spend much time on here anymore, and when i do, it's usually to just post a couple of gifs, make an ooc post, reblog a meme - so on. at first i thought it was something to do with my life that was preventing me from writing, but even after i got my bearings and did some refilling of the well of self-love, i realized it was something more.

the DC fandom has killed my love for Batman.

i really need to stress this...

the DC fandom has killed my love for the thing that STOPPED me from giving up on life.

this is by no means an attack, nor is it a means of pointing out someone or select people, but it's just the collective DC fandom that i have, personally, encountered. i'm going to use actual sources and treat this like a proper article, because i know some people will just see it as bitching about a problem that isn't there. i'm not going to put this under a cut, because it is a final post which is kind of important.

There is a cell in DC fandom, however, that refuses every opportunity to behave like reasonable human beings. What began as frustration over a mixed reaction to Man of Steel has evolved into paranoid delusions of conspiracy and a full blown persecution complex over the world not embracing Batman v Superman the way these DC fans have. It’s already led to fans lashing out with violent threats like this one received by Clarke Wolfe (referencing a tweet where a young man threatened to murder her on the street after she gave BvS a bad review).

According to the DC hive mind, the reason Batman v Superman has been panned by critics is because those critics have an anti-DC, pro-Marvel agenda. Professional film critics who review dozens and dozens (some of them hundreds) of films each year suddenly care enough to choose a side between the companies that produce a small sample of those critics’ annual workload. Why would they care? Per the hive mind, money. What else?

That’s right. The DC hive mind is convinced that critics, especially the online bloggers who are fixtures of comic book movie coverage, have been accepting bribes from Disney to write positive reviews for Marvel movies and trash the competition, specifically the DC-based movies produced by Warner Bros. The key piece of evidence in each count of bribery is a critic having an opinion about Batman v Superman that is contrary to the opinion held by the DC hive mind.

'Something is Rotten in the State of the DC Fandom' - Sean Gerber, Modern Myth Media

this is just a sample of what is wrong with the DC fandom. no matter how hard i try to blacklist certain things, such as 'justice league' (yes, i literally have to blacklist JUSTICE LEAGUE), i cannot escape the blatant, unrelenting poison in the fandom. i have to blacklist justice league because i have literally seen posts saying 'we finally have the right batman' or one of the more common things i've seen where the shot of batman on the gargoyle being tagged as 'more batman than christian bale will ever be'. i've seen youtube comments, i've seen tumblr posts, i've seen endless amounts of idiot fanboys and supposed 'DC elites' thinking it is okay to slag off the predecessor. IT'S NOT. it is toxic. it is killing the fandom.

You're turning people off the films that you represent and love. You are hurting the industry as a whole. You are hurting the fan community as a whole. You are killing everything around it... the thing that you claim to love, you are hurting it.

There's no bigger hater on the SW Prequels than me. But every time I talk about why I hate those films, I always make sure I end with 'Hey, that doesn't mean you have to hate it. If you like these movies then I celebrate that. I think that's awesome if you got something out of them! For me they didn't work because of reasons A,B,C... but that's just me.

We need to get it back to where we can talk about why we loved this, or why we hated that. But there's nothing wrong with why you hated some I love or why you loved something I hated.

John Campea Podcast Episode 18 'The Destructive DC vs Marvel Fanboys War'

i'm not perfect, and i'll never claim to be. i've taken shots at BvS purely because i felt zack snyder's idea of what batman should be as a personal affront, but i did it in retaliation because i felt alone and ostracized because i happen to prefer christian bale and feel his batman is more accurate to the ideals of bruce wayne. that doesn't mean i'm right, it's just my heart and my opinion. but to have the DC fandom declare that someone's opinion is WRONG, that to tell someone because they love the Nolan trilogy they are not a real Batman fan, is just pathetic. it's childish.

it's like having a kid be bullied at school because he happens to like Donatello the most out of the turtles, when all the 'cool kids' like Raphael. it's disgusting and i want absolutely no part of this fandom any longer.

this post is literally the reason i am leaving. i'm leaving before it gets to the point where i have to tear down the eight different batman posters in my room, throw out the $160 Dark Knight Trilogy statue, smash the hand-painted portrait of the chalk bat symbol my friend in america made me, trash the twenty four graphic novels i own. all because of the toxicity of the online fandom.

i don't want to go on too much longer, i was planning to include a big thank you thing, but i think i'll make it a separate post. i'd like it to have its own positive tone. so in closing, i really, really encourage, heck, i'm begging you:

#long post for ts #▮ PSA. ▮#✠ GUSFACE ( ooc. ) ✠#// i'm kind of expecting messages and comments #i don't mind honestly #if anything i want to encourage mature discourse #but i'm also half expecting to be vague blogged and accused of hypocrisy #honestly though i'd laugh because it's just one of the problems i talked about

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loopy777 · 7 years

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Which character you think is the biggest victim of Yang biased writing? Aang, Azula, or other characters? (I'm so interested in your criticism and commentary )

Well, I wrote a whole essay about Ursa, so I think she wins by default. XD

However, to be sure, let’s go through the whole list of major characters:

Azula: While I don’t like the way Azula herself has been regressed on her character journey, I don’t think she’s been damaged by Gene’s writing. I actually think he has a fairly good grasp of her characterization, preserving her tactical genius, and making her a functional driver of Story while still dealing with her mental issues. Fixing the problems with her is just a matter of moving her forward, something that can be done while still keeping her as an antagonist.

Mai: I think Mai has escaped unscathed. I'm not a fan of the way the Maiko breakup has been written, but it has nothing to do with Mai. She's been true to form, reacting reasonably to Zuko's bad characterization, and hasn't been blamed unfairly for the breakup or written to give up her understandable complaints for the sake of a happy reconciliation. Heck, I almost wonder if the breakup hasn't been going on this long because Gene wrote himself into a corner and can't figure out how to fix it without either compromising Mai's character or bashing his own characterization of Zuko. My only complaint about Mai's portrayal is that Gene is going a bit overboard in showing her loyalty and love for her family, but considering Mai's reputation with the fandom, I can't get too mad about an over-correction.

Sokka: While Sokka has mostly been written as dumb comic relief, that was a trend started in the cartoon, so I can hardly blame Gene for that. And again, the writing hasn’t damaged Sokka at all.

Toph: Here’s where we get into failing characterization. While Gene gets the broad strokes of Toph, I think her characterization is exaggerated in the same way that fandom and even some of LoK does it. (And I might even be guilty of this, too, in my fanfic writing.) Toph’s argument with Aang in The Rift came across as really dumb, since it started off with a contrived miscommunication. And Toph’s dynamic with the “Lily Livers” regresses her teaching style to Bitter Work mode, when she should have learned that yelling at people doesn’t always lead to good results. I don’t see this as a regression, like with Azula, because I don’t think Gene is aiming for an earlier characterization of Toph; I think he thinks that’s just how she always is. And with the fandom largely perceiving Toph as Little Miss Shouty, Gene’s characterization is helping to perpetuate a more shallow view of the character.

Katara: As I’ve mentioned both in my earlier Katara post and some discussions on ASN, Katara has suffered in the way she’s used in these stories. I think her characterization is mostly fine, but while she was the one who mostly set the episode-to-episode agenda in the cartoon, she’s just Aang's tag-along in the comics. In the cartoon, Katara would frequently decide what stops to make and which people to help, or at least heavily figured into the decision when Aang was the one to have the final word. In the comics, though, that's been limited to North & South. So the comics create the illusion of the more passive Katara, something at odds with her characterization. By itself, this wouldn't be too bad, just another case of non-damaging fumbling that could be easily corrected, but when combined with the way LoK turned Katara into the most passive of the surviving gAang and pushed her back into the Healing Huts for all the important events, it creates a characterization for her that has her effectively retiring at 16.

Aang: Ugh. Here's our first major candidate. Aang has been permanently damaged by Gene's writing. The whole finale of the cartoon hinged on a very specific aspect of Aang's character, that he values life above all, to such a passionate degree that he unconsciously summoned the last living god and learned a dangerous spiritual technique with the potential to change the world forever. Whether you think Aang was right or not, whether you think the plot was well-implemented or not, it boggles my mind that Gene's first story starts Aang as someone willing and even eager to kill an opponent. And the best Gene can offer as an explanation is some babble about Buddhist monks having a provision for killing that didn't apply to the events in The Promise and wasn't even invoked by the story itself. That it was Zuko, of all people, who Aang hugged in one of the last scenes of the show and declared a friend, just makes it worse. Aang comes across as a murder fetishist, considering killing Zuko before even understanding the reason behind Zuko's actions, and then going back to the murder solution after finding out that Zuko considers himself to be in a moral quandary about the colonies. If we count Aang's eager acceptance of Roku's (out of nowhere) racism until he realizes that he won't be able to get it on with his Water Tribe girlfriend, then it makes it even worse, recoloring the accepting, well-traveled kid we met in the cartoon as a snobby tourist. So Gene's writing has made Aang a weaker character who might have gotten brain damage sometime between the cartoon and the comics, considering how different he became.

Zuko: Ugh. Here's our other major candidate. Zuko has been permanently damaged by Gene's writing. Yes, in real life, people sometimes regress in their development and victims of abuse frequently don't just move on, but even worse than Aang, the way Zuko goes crawling back to his father and reacts to every disagreement by trying to kill or exile his friends retroactively damages his journey in the cartoon. It makes for a terrible story. That moment in 'The Day of Black Sun' when Zuko denies Ozai and claims Iroh as his true father figure? It's not a triumph now, because Zuko has been proven to be one bad day away from choosing to be more like Ozai. That moment in the finale when Aang hugs Zuko and they talk about how they're friends? That's meaningless now, because Zuko consistently treats Aang without any respect, and often with violent hostility, practically demanding that Aang act like a sycophant. That moment when Zuko learns how deeply Mai cares for him, finding out that she'd give her life just to ensure his survival even if she doesn't quite understand why he's made his choices? Well, apparently Zuko didn't learn anything, because he shuts Mai out of his life unless he wants some lovin', and doesn't even think about her unless she's literally standing in front of him begging for some attention. Every single one of Zuko's progressions in the cartoon is undone by Gene's characterization of him. And Zuko's progressions were not only a major part of what made AtLA so good, it's arguably THE factor that elevated beyond a merely really good children's show. So Gene's writing for Zuko has retroactively ruined AtLA. And no, I'm not exagerating.

Well, gotta give it to Zuko, then. Special mention to Ursa and Roku.

#gene yang #Anonymous

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