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#talia would have to listen to both her son's versions of the story
morgansunflower · 5 months
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Can I request a story where y/n is Bruce's sister and trained with him with the league of assassins where a male version of Talia fell in love with her and they had Damian and then in the future he comes and tells y/n that Damian is her son just like Talia did with Bruce thank you in advance
Broken Heart
Male! Talia X Wayne! Reader
Warnings:suggestive content, explicit language, angst
Words:1469
Arthur's notes! This version of male! Talia is set before Morrison wrote her. Everything is completely consensual. No drugging whatsoever. Good male! Talia. Bad Ra's al Ghul.
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Talin carried Y/N as she was unconscious from the nontoxic substance....
Talin knew if he left Damian with her.. Ra's would hurt them or worse. Only a few hours after Damian was born. Ra's had found them, after they had been in hiding. Which truly terrified Talin as not even Bruce knew where they were and that he had a nephew.
So as she laid sleeping recovering from childbirth. He let her breath in a substance that would make her unconscious and that would not hurt her.
He can't let the life he desperately wanted to let go, free. If he did Ra's would certainly target his family.
He stands holding her, in her old room after sneaking into the Manor. He kisses her lips softly with a bitter smile. He gently placed her on the bed and laid the blanket on her. He placed a letter containing only lies on her nightstand.
"Master Talin?" Alfred gasps seeing Y/N laying in a unconscious state "what happened to her? Is she alright?"
"she will be.. Keep her safe Alfred" he requested and before Alfred could utter a, word.. He was gone...
......
Y/N gently stirs in her sleep only remembering holding her newborn and her lover. "Talin?.. Talin?" she muttered.
Her baby! She opens her eyes and gasps realizing she is in her old room. She searches for both her lover and son. She sees a letter from Talin. She impatiently reaches for the first letter.
~Dear Y/N
I know writing to you about this, is highly inappropriate. I should have told you myself with my own words but I don't know how I can. Our son is gone. He died shortly after~
She gasps covering her face to muffle her impending sobs and forced herself to continue reading.
~he was in my arms. The Dr said there was nothing they could have done. They knew not of the cause of his sudden passing. I know you will blame yourself and I beg of you not to.
Do not try to find me. I do not wish to be loved again nor do I deserve to be loved by you. We don't belong together and I must not leave the life I belong to. Find someone who is worthy of you. Please find peace and joy where you can.
Sincerely, Talin~
Y/N's hands shake. She lost her breath. She let out a helpless cry. The letter falling from her hand. She feels her body was aching all throughout. Her sweet baby she could never hold was gone. Her truest love didn't want her.. In the simplest way, her heart was broken.
Bruce hurries to his sister hearing her heart wrenching sobs. He finds her in her bed shaking vigorously. She began to hyperventilate as her emotions worsen. She felt she was going to pass out.
"Y/N! Y/N! Y/N listen to me!" Bruce touched her arms still unable to gain her attention. She looks at her brother with such brokenness, it brought a grieving memory to the dark knight "listen to my breathes. Okay?"
She nodded listening to her brother's breathes helping her calm down. Bruce did not hesitate to comfort her as her arm's hold onto him. He kisses her head as she cried in his arms.
Y/N grew bitter as her heart was brittle. Bruce tried to comfort her in the best way he could. She still was not herself even years later. Nights were spent with dreams of Talin's arm's holding her and her baby cuddling against her chest. She often cried during night's that felt so real.
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With his father killed by Slade. Talin stood there bitter that so much had changed in his father. Though now Y/N and Damian were safe from him however Slade was a, new threat. Dusan offered his brother passage to leave the league of assassin's in exchange that he become the new leader.
Talin and Damian made there way to Gotham. The two sat on the couch on his yacht. Talin sees Damian reading not having turned a, single page in over a hour. He knew his son must be in despair.
Talin reaches to take the book.
"tt" he scoffed annoyed his father saw his turmoil.
"you have asked me continuously, prying for information about your mother ever since you could speak. Why do you seem unhappy now?"
"will she be.. Happy.. To see me?" Damian asked his father
"happy? She will be thrilled to see you again. I know she loves you very dearly"
"why did you take me away from her? Tell me what happened?" Damian asked
Talin sighed finally able to tell him the truth as it did not jeopardize his safety "well years ago.. Your uncle and your mother came to us. I trained with your mother frequently for many months.. We let our hearts overflow.. Shortly thereafter they left. She returned to me telling me that she was pregnant with you... I would not allow you to have your childhood ripped away from you. However.. Once you were born--" Talin sighed guilted by the memory "we were discovered by my fath.. By Ra's. He knew he could still use me to do his bidding and use you as his successor... He demanded I be rid of her or he would end you.. I could never hurt her so I took her to her family"
"you did it save mother and my own life.. Does she know I'm alive?"
"no she.. She does not know"
....
Y/N's heart leaps seeing the message from him. Part of her was genuinely happy but a part of her was angered. How could he leave her after losing their son? Why was he reaching out to her?
Y/N enters the yacht seeing Talin. He wore his dark green trousers, lace up boots, a dark green cloak and a black long-sleeve shirt. Her eyes touch his heart. So much time and she still made his body crave her and his heart feel so much love.
"I cannot imagine this is to be a social visit" she bluntly said her hands nearly shaking
"I wish it were.." he wanted to say he loves her and still wants her but he can't. She hates him he's certain "Ra's al Ghul, is dead. Slade is hunting us and wishes to kill us"
"us?..."
"not you and I beloved--" the word brought shame as she looked angered at him. "me and.. Our son"
"Talin..." she gaps her heart beating rapidly against her chest "our S-Son.."
Talin moves the curtains Damian steps from the shadows.
"mother..."
She looks at his eyes remembering the moment he was born. He's alive! "my baby" she cried his knees buckling beneath her. "my sweet baby boy"
Damian slowly approached her. She slowly reached to him with her arms shaking... He hugs her. So long had he wanted to meet her, to know she truly loves him... He was finally able to be held by her.
She looks to Talin to overcome with her emotions to fully understand. He knew the look in her beautiful pleading eyes. He explained everything to her unable to look in the face but only a few times...
As the two part able to calm down from the overwhelming reunion. Y/N stands on her feet kissing Damian's head. Talin kneels down to his son. He touches his face..
"you listen to your uncle. I know you will feel strange in such a different place but soon it will feel as home"
"you're not coming?" Damian asked appalled
He glanced to his past lover seeing her soft smile but looked back to his son before he became too emotional... He can't make her bare to be around him especially after he broke her heart.
"I know you always wanted to have a family that was complete. I'm so sorry I could never give you that. I am not abandoning you son. I will be there for you whenever you need me.. I will visit you" Talin promised..
He raised to his feet kissing Damian's head. The little boy hugged his father goodbye tightly. Talin's heart was breaking to leave them.
"Talin.. I don't.. I don't know if I can.. If we--" Y/N's lips begin trembling, missing him so dearly but she needed time "I don't want Damian to be without his father. Stay in Gotham, please"
He touched her chin kissing her forehead. He was devastated she did not want him but he couldn't blame nor stop loving her.
"you have spared me worry. I desire to be close, only for his safety and your own.. I am here for you should you ever need me or you wish to be at my side again"
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stxleslyds · 3 years
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MY THOUGHTS ON TITANS’ RED HOOD,
BEFORE WATCHING THE LAST EPISODE.
I will start by saying that I haven’t been able to watch the show, these are my thoughts after reading a very well-written and detailed review of the last episode. The review is also written by someone that enjoys the show, this is important because my thoughts don’t align with theirs.
I understand that Titans is known for being garbage, I know their writing is messed up, and I had no hope whatsoever for them to actually write a good Jason Todd/Red Hood story. I would also like to make clear that this post is in no way hate towards the actor playing Jason, this post is just my thoughts on Jason’s characterization.
What I really don’t like is these shows/movies taking the names of loved characters and making an “original character” out of them. Yes, there are different takes of the character and you can build their story differently but I do feel that what they did with Jason is beyond all that. They twisted every concept from his origin and his story, nothing really fits, but someway, somehow, they still managed to push all the wrong narratives when it comes to Robin Jason.
Two of the most horrible narratives that DC has decided to push are “Robin Jason was reckless and a troubled kid that never did what he was told” and “Jason Todd is to blame for his death”.
The show does push the one where Jason is reckless. Jason is consumed by fear, and Bruce Wayne pays attention to that but he doesn’t only do that, he also offers comfort and help, he tries to make Robin Jason go to therapy.
This is huge, they build up the perfect scenario for Jason to not become the Red Hood. But for some reason, they decided to make Jason reckless and too eager to prove that he didn’t need that kind of help. And then they didn’t help Jason’s case because they wrote their Bruce as a caring father that does not want to see his son get hurt or end up dead.
This Bruce Wayne is doing everything that comics Bruce Wayne didn’t. This Bruce cares, so once more, one would think that this Jason wouldn’t become the Red Hood. But, surprise! Jason Todd doesn’t take well the news of him not being able to be Robin anymore.
Here is the thing, if you were Bruce in this situation, would you let this Jason continue to be Robin when he is a danger to himself? I know I wouldn’t.
Here is where Titans’ terrible writing reaches its peak. They have a vulnerable and reckless Jason try to prove that he can still be Robin by working on *something* that can take his fears away. Jason Todd wants to make a drug, let that one sink in.
Jason Todd wants to make something that is basically a drug. Did Titans really erase the fact that Jason’s mother overdosed? Because that’s one of the most important things in Jason’s life and that built up his hate for drugs and what they do to people. His mother was in an abusive relationship and that led her to do drugs and later led her to her own death.
This might not sound too important to other people but to me, it’s something that has always been important to Jason’s character before and after his death.
Going back to the actual show, Jason goes to Scarecrow, willingly, and asks him to make him a drug that will make him don’t feel fear. I know that this Jason is vulnerable and that he probably thinks that therapy isn’t working for him, but why on earth would Jason think that making Scarecrow make a drug for him would be a good idea?
How does that make sense? The show is basically telling us that Jason had a support system and that he was going to therapy because Bruce wouldn’t want to lose his SON. Why does this show go far and beyond to make Jason look reckless and dumb?
This is not me comparing Comics Jason to Titans Jason anymore, this is me finding Titans’ logic unnecessarily stupid, they really went out of their way to write pure stupidity.
Why would they write Bruce as a caring father and as actively working so Jason can be in a better mental state so he won’t lose him as his son if they are also going to write Jason as an incredibly reckless man? Are we supposed to be on Bruce’s side? Because as of now, Bruce is the only one with brain cells.
There is absolutely no way to compare that to comics because in comics Bruce neglected Jason’s needs and refused to see that Jason had different morals even back then, and that neglect was key in Jason jumping onto the idea that he needed someone that he could call family and actually care for him. He wanted love and attention from a parental figure because he didn’t feel like he had one. Robin wasn’t everything that Jason was, he was also a kid with normal needs.
So, you build that completely different and actually give Jason the support that he also wanted in the show but for some reason, he is fiercely attached to Robin even though his fear comes from the fact that he almost died for being Robin. There is no logic to this Jason’s actions and that isn’t on Jason it's on the writers’ incredibly garbage writing. It is like they come up with ten different ideas and they put all of them but none of them are actually solid and well-developed concepts.
And you can’t tell me to get over it because “Titans has always had bad writing, there were two seasons of bad writing”. Listen, if you are happy to consume media that is badly written then that’s on you, Jason is one of my favorite characters, I don’t want him to be written badly just because that’s the show’s style. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with me wanting writers to actually care about the characters they are writing for, all three seasons have had different writers, is it really so far-fetched for me to want one of these people to write something that makes sense?
Jason's death was tragic in both comics and the show, and he was a victim in both of them, yes. But the show really pushes the limits of that, Jason wanted to take something to make him not fear, he looked for Scarecrow (not Dr. Jonathan Crane, Scarecrow, and he was an already established villain) to make him this drug when he couldn’t make it himself. He trusted Scarecrow (for some weird reason) and then as a test he went to fight Joker? It’s tragic because it ended with Jason dying but it's also tragic because the writing is just bad. It just is, and that is a problem for me.
From then on, we have the “big connection” to comics, the Lazarus Pit! Wow, you guys did it, yeah, everyone loves the Lazarus Pit, every time I think about Jason, I only think about that one time in which he was thrown in a Lazarus Pit to recover his mental injuries or all of his injuries after he came back from the dead.
This Jason has no training, there is no Talia, no League of Assassins, no Ducra or All-Castle, there is only Scarecrow and his new puppet, the Red Hood.
It changes everything and I don’t like it. Once again, I understand and know the concept of the multiverse, the various earths, and the Elseworlds, but that doesn’t mean that I have to like this take on Jason Todd/Red Hood along with its horrendous writing.
I don’t have to like it, just like I understand that others do like it because it is their first contact with the character or because they are fine, as fans of the character, with a new take. I am not gatekeeping Jason Todd or Red Hood; I am just saying that my being angry at this version and absolutely hating it is just as valid as liking this version of Jason.
Red Hood in Titans is just Scarecrow’s puppet, that’s how things are, and I just think that it is too big of a change from the original reasons for Jason to become Red Hood. And I will never get tired of saying this, Red Hood wasn’t only all about the Joker killing him and Batman not killing the Joker. The Red Hood was Jason’s way to make things work, to prove to Bruce that Batman wasn’t enough for Gotham. Red Hood came back to Gotham to stop bad people from introducing children to drugs and to make Gotham’s people feel safe.
He thought that Red Hood was the better version of Batman for Gotham and its people.
But I am not blind, I can see how Titans can twist it again to give us Red Hood as a protector of children and Gotham in general. I can see the “I used to do drugs and now I will fight so no other person goes through the same”, I see it and I am aware of it but it does also bring me to my other problem with Titans and DC in general: story swapping.
Story Swapping is something that DC loves to do, they thrive when they make change people’s origins for others and when they take character traits from one character to another.
And Titans’ Jason Todd is just that, he has characteristics and plot concepts from Dick Grayson and if what I just predicted happens then he will have some of Roy Harper's characteristics. And that is exactly what Lobdell did, but somehow, they managed to get different results. I cannot praise Titans for giving us a new Red Hood origin because they made his characterization with the help of other character’s origins and/or stories.
This is the first time that we see a live-action Jason Todd/Red Hood, was it really that hard to just stick to his origins as both Robin and Red Hood? There is so much to explore from Jason, there is so much between his death and him becoming Red Hood, from both before and after New 52.
Jason becoming Red Hood under the influence of Scarecrow in moths is lazy, bland and an insult to Jason’s character. They could have done things by the book and then explore things that we have never seen before in a show or movie.
Jason has had so much training outside of Gotham, why did Titans think that they could do acceptable work at bringing this amazingly complex character in a show that has nothing to do with him.
They could have had him killed in the Titans show and then wait and make a Red Hood show to actually tell a good story. What is Jason Todd doing in a show that is called Titans? Where are the Titans? They chose the most recognizable Titans’ line-up and they are not using it. They butchered Garth and Donna and for what?
DC gets away way too much with selling their stupid shows and movies by telling us that x character will appear but then when you watch the thing for that x character, they are nowhere to be seen. That’s exactly what they did with Cassandra Cain and what they are doing with Red Hood.
I don’t know how this tv show is doing, I only know that as a non-American that pays the same money for an HBO Max subscription, I don’t get to see any Titans content, not even a miserable trailer.
But I know that if non-comic readers are watching it, they will love it and if they actually were to start reading comics because of the show, then they wouldn’t find that Jason there. So, either that leads to Jason’s characterization being messed up even more within comics or it does nothing for Jason or comics.
To end this post, I just want to bring up the animated movie Batman: Under the Red Hood (2010).
That movie was widely praised and loved by critics, comic readers, and non-comic readers. It was fantastic, the story was amazing (even though it had differences with the comic, one might say that the differences improved the story), the voice acting was phenomenal, everything was done beautifully. Do you know what made it that way? The writing.
And you know who wrote the animated movie? The same person who wrote the comic the movie is based on, Judd Winick.
With that I am not saying that Titans should have had Judd write for them, what I am saying is that given the fact that they are using a pre-existing character they should chat with the Red Hood’s creator or even the writer that wrote for him for ten years after the character came back to comics.
This show obviously didn’t do that though, they preferred to write Jason Todd/Red Hood as if he were a Titans original character, but the thing is, from where I see it Titans didn’t give us an OC, they gave us an OOC.
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So, to sum it all up, I hate Titans’ version of Jason Todd/Red Hood, I think that it is not only badly written but there is also no real logic to what they are trying to do so far. I am also tired of their bad and lazy writing in general. And I would have liked the Titans’ writers to actually respect the Red Hood lore because if they had I would have actually been excited about a Red Hood spin-off show.
Using the material that is available to you isn’t a crime, building from that material is the best thing that they could have done, but all they really wanted to do was use Red Hood’s name to get more money from a dying show.
It makes the show look cheap and actually not interested in giving us good stories, and no, I wasn’t expecting Captain America: The Winter Soldier levels of good writing or good changes to a very loved story/characters, I was actually expecting some Lobdell writing level and the way I see it we ended up getting something worse.
These are all my opinions. You can like, love, or dislike this version of Jason and the show as much as you want but you won’t find any form of love towards the show in this blog, at least not right now.
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MY THOUGHTS ON TITANS’ RED HOOD,
AFTER WATCHING THE LAST EPISODE.
Well, I will start this part by saying: Sorry. I am sorry that I believed that Titans’ Red Hood was bad, it is actually worse than bad.
I was so wrong on many things, that review really made me think that things weren’t that bad but I still hated what I read. Now that I have watched the episode because I wanted this post to be extra honest and to stop myself from saying stupid stuff, I can also say that I hated what I watched.
This show really validates the two most horrible narratives that DC has been pushing for Jason: “he was a reckless Robin that didn’t think about his actions” and “he was to blame for his own death”
Jason Todd wasn’t a victim of Scarecrow, this Jason Todd took every single bad decision that he could, and those decisions led him to his death. No sympathy for this man.
Also, this Jason is like 19? He doesn’t look younger than that, but that’s not the point, what I am trying to point out is that this Robin is extremely underprepared, he lacks training and the mental capacity to stop acting like an edge lord every time he opens his mouth. He is annoying.
And I was wrong about Titans erasing the plotline of Jason’s mother dying of an overdose, she did die that way and this Jason spoke of her as if he hated her. What is going on? This Jason really doesn’t make me feel an ounce of sympathy for him. This attitude of “no one understands my pain” when everybody is trying to help you doesn’t make you look cool or anything of the sort, it makes you look annoying.
It is even worse because this Jason is so immature and reckless that he made his friend Molly (that is just a normal teen with no training) go after a thug with him, while he was not mentally well. He made that decision for them and put himself and her in danger. If that scene had gone any other way, then Jason could have been guilty of getting his friend injured or killed.
Jason Todd is so incredibly dumb; he is not a child but he acts like one every step of the way.
Nothing makes sense in his whole ass interaction with Bruce in front of the theatre, it’s like Jason refuses to listen to what Bruce tells him, well not that he refuses to listen it is more like a “Telefono descompuesto” I don’t know if you guys have that game but you basically have to tell something in someone’s ear and then the person repeats what they understood to the next and so on, what you said is heavily distorted by the end of the game. In this scene that is exactly what happens but it’s between two people.
When Jason accuses Bruce of not taking away Robin from Dick, Bruce says something along the lines of “I learned from my mistakes” and Jason says “so, I am a mistake now?”. Jason, use your ears, if Bruce says that he learned from his mistakes when talking about Dick, then his mistake was what he did with Dick. The writing is so bad, it's actually painful and it is even worse because the acting is bad, but I can’t blame the actors, it must really be hard to make a scene work when the writing is that bad. (Also, the unnecessary pauses, and the sounds that they play after they say something stupid, it is too funny).
Do you know what made me cringe? When they were having the chat in the theatre, in my mind all I could hear was “if you are nothing without the suit then you shouldn’t have it”, not me quoting Tony Stark in my head! I haven’t even watched that movie! But it fits perfectly for that scene.
The interaction with Scarecrow was more than dumb, if Jason was already acting like a child, now, he is basically acting like a toddler. Scarecrow saw right through him in seconds and just as fast decided that he was going to have fun with his new toy. He gave him a formula that wasn’t quite correct even though it looked like he knew exactly how to make the reverse version of his fear gas. This Jason has zero detective or survival skills but we already knew that when he made himself get captured and tortured by Deathstroke.
Anyway, all the interactions with Scarecrow were allowed to happen because this Jason can’t put two and two together. He convinces himself that everyone is out to get him, dude, Bruce is a detective and he also has eyes, Leslie didn’t tell him anything. If I were Bruce, you wouldn’t be able to be Robin anymore either.
I understand that Jason is not in a good mental place and that he wants to make his fears go away, but he had support, people around him were trying to get him help, trying to make him understand that he was hurting himself. His over-the-top anger and recklessness are unjustified when you refuse to take the help that is being offered to you.
He made terrible decisions for selfish purposes and that got him killed.
This is one of the last things I want to say, Scarecrow either didn’t need Jason at all to get out of Arkham or the writers made an oopsie because at the end of the episode he had someone helping him put Jason in the Lazarus Pit and then he was out of Arkham and he had a suit ready for Jason and everything. How did he manage all that? No idea.
The Lazarus Pit, yeah, I am sorry to be that person but the Pit can’t bring back people from the dead, it can only restore or heal physical and mental injuries (however grave they were), but Lobdell messed that one up already and Titans really didn’t have time to write a single good scene so what was I expecting?
Anyway, the last thing I wanted to say is that I know why Jason or Red Hood seems to not be affected by the drug when he sees Molly at the end of the episode, it is because the executive producer of the show is Geoff Johns! He loves making Jason fall for girls and get all mushy and dumb, do you guys remember how dumb he got when he left with Rose?
Jason being written as the kind of guy that acts like a love-sick puppy with a girl but also screams at her when he gets mad is peak Geoff Johns. So, if you were wondering where that came from, well, there it is.
Yeah, that is all I had to say, honestly if you have read this whole post then you are one strong individual, I am sorry I put you through all my thinking and rambling. You didn’t really deserve that.
I didn’t want to delete the first part of the post because I talked about so much more than the show and my thoughts before watching the episode still stand. I hope this post isn’t too confusing. As always you can think the complete opposite of me about the show or anything, I am just writing my thoughts.
Having said all that, I hope all of you, Titans’ lovers, haters, and people that simply do not care, have a wonderful week!
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sassydefendorflower · 4 years
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Batman, Falcon, and the Foil of Man
I am not really the person for Age Reversal AUs, which is why I tried to built a complex timeline for one that I would personally love to read:
1. Bruce is 34 by the time Damian comes along. He has been Batman for 8 years and the Justice League existed for 4 already. Let’s say Bruce does everything the same way he does in canon: He finishes High School and then goes on a prolonged training trip around the globe for several years. He is 24, meets Talia, they share a hot, passionate, consentual night together. He returns to Gotham and becomes Batman. Only that there isn’t a traveling circus in town only a few years later. Batman gets known as a solo hero. Maybe that is the reason his relationship with the League is mostly business: He never learned how to become a team player.
2. Damian becomes known as Falcon. He isn’t the first sidekick. When Damian joins his Father at the age of ten, Superman’s son Jon is already running the first version of the Teen Titans together with Wallace (Kid Flash) and Jackson Hyde (Aqualad) and Mia (Speedy). Damian takes time to adjust, especially when both he and his father are horribly stubborn - and not the most social.
3. Damian stops being Falcon and Batman’s partner at the age of 17, after he used excessive force in the field and killed a crook. They have been fighting for ages beforehand already. With Alfred being the only calming presence in the Manor there was nothing to soften the verbal - and oftentimes physical - blows between them. Damian, after being accused again and again of being to cruel, snapped and declared himself no longer associated to Batman. Bruce just tells him that that was the reason the Teen Titans never accepted him. (Bruce doesn’t need to know that Damian is quite comfortable with Mia and Raven - both of them scared in similar ways to him)
4. Damian becomes an Anti-Hero known as The Wraith. He kills his targets, but he doesn’t like it: It is just that there is no way for him to see another way sometimes. He stays mostly out of Gotham, knowing that his Father is only capable of tolerating his sins by being able to pretend he doesn’t know about them.
5. A year before Damian left Bruce met Duke Thomas during a Youth Outreach program. The boy’s curious interest in science and crime fighting stayed with Bruce and a few months later when teen gangs started going crazy on the streets after the last Joker attack, Bruce offered to take him in. Duke is 14 and intelligent, crafty, fast - and he is nothing like Damian.
6. A year after coming to stay at Wayne Manor Bruce offers Duke to make his stay permanent. Duke declines but becomes Bruce’s legal ward until the age of 18. His parents are still out there after all. And so what if Duke never tells anyone that he climbs out of windows at night and into Gotham. So what if Light reflects and follows his command. So what if Damian visits him sometimes and tells him stories of saving the world. 
7. Duke becomes the Signal when he is 15. Bruce made him promise to only go out during the day. He doesn’t want another one of his sons to turn dark. They don’t need that. Duke promises - and keeps The Wraith a secret. Especially now, since his meta powers no longer are. Bruce finally started working with the League, started finally building some friendships, since he asked them to help his kid with his powers. 
8. Stephanie Brown shows up on the Gotham streets at night, calling herself Spoiler. She is 13 and spunky and fresh and with a spark not even Gotham can diminish. Bruce loves her instantly, so he tells her to go home. She doesn’t. He tries again. She still won’t listen. An injury forces Bruce to take her to the Cave. She is clever, within minutes she knows his secret ID.But then she surprises him: She promises to never tell a soul. When he asks her if she wants to move in with him, she tells him Np. She wants to stay with her mom. Still he makes sure she knows that there is always a room for her in the Manor.
9. A few months later when her father is caught and put to jail, she changes her moniker: From now on there is a Batgirl saving Gotham City. She didn’t tell Bruce beforehand and it was quite the shock that first night. When the news spread Damian returns to Gotham out of fear that his Father might be hurt. The ensuing talk is awkward and hurtful but it is also the first time they spoke civilized in years. (And if Duke pretends to Not See Damian nobody is going to mention it).
10. Timothy Jackson Drake makes his appearance not that much later. Focused on finding out the identity of the mysterious Batman Tim stalked him for ages - until seeing them all on a roof together made it finally click. Batman was his neighbor. It doesn’t take long for him to get from that realization to building his own Falcon suit and taking on the streets in Batman’s shadow. The man himself tries to stop him, doesn’t want the suit his son wore to be given to another boy. No, to be taken by another boy. But nothing can stop Tim when he sets his mind to it. 
11. The second Falcon takes on the streets when Tim is freshly 14 with a 15-year old Batgirl, and a 17-year old Signal by his side. So what if Batman is always watching his moves. So what if he is never allowed to hit a bit harder than necessary, even if they are taking down real scumbags. So, what if Bruce is never as nice to him as he is to Steph and Duke. Tim can take it. It’s not as if it’s anything new. It is the same with his parents. (And what if there is sometimes a shadow outside of his window? What if he found a dead Falcon on his front door?)
12. Both of Tim’s parents are dead by the time he 16. There is not a hint of hesitation when he accepts Bruce’s offer to adopt him. Duke is still living at the Manor even though he is 19 and in college. His parents aren’t better yet and Duke no longer feels the urge to deny the bond he shares with Bruce. Nobody has heard anything from Damian for almost a year. The only rumors Bruce could find regarding the untimely demise of The Wraith in a showdown with the Heraldic. But there is no way to verify these. (So, what if the dead Falcons have stopped? So what if Bruce is dying inside to find out what happened?)
13. Damian died at the age of 21 by the hands of his mother’s creation. It was a punishment. He had been allowed to exist because he was the Heir to the Batman. But he had proven unworthy. The moment he dies he can almost understand her reasoning. He didn’t defeat this last challenge against him after all. He fell to the hands of his own clone. What a drag.
14. Stephanie Brown was 17 when she fought with Batman about the finer details of her job. She was 17 when she started a gang war, a contingency she shouldn’t know about, and died. Bruce shuts down afterwards. She was his daughter in everything but in name. He loved her, her spirit, her jokes, the flame that denied being diminished. Yet Gotham (He) managed to do so anyway. Tim fled to the Teen Titans, Duke to his room. 
15. Tim is 17 when he founds the Young Justice team, rattled from the death of his best friend and the silence at home. He basically moves in with them, with Conner, who is at odds with his dad (?) and his older brother, with Bart, who is displaced in time and place, and with Cissie, who bears the world on her shoulders sometimes being the first young Amazon next to Diana. He is rarely seen in the Manor anymore and neither is Duke. They’re grieving and neither of them can bear to look Bruce in the eyes right now. Being in space and saving the earth is what Tim needs right now. Maybe it is time to stop being Falcon.
16. Cassandra Cain and Jason Todd happen almost simultaneously. Bruce comes across an orphaned street kid trying to steal his tires and takes him home. He couldn’t let the kid stay outside any longer. He was grieving, not a monster. He promised Jason that he wouldn’t hurt him, that Batman might be Bruce Wayne but Jason wouldn’t be forced to become Falcon (Bruce really hoped not) and the 14-year old believed him. Two weeks later Cass tumbled into his arms during a patrol that ended with Batman scouting out an abandoned warehouse and Cass passing out from hunger while hiding in the rafters. Of course, he took her with him. And when a background search told him everything he needed to know about David Cain, it was easy to invite Cass into his life. 
17. Cassandra Cain became Batgirl against the will of Bruce. She stole the costume, the old one, the one displayed in the Cave, after half a year of living with him. Bruce should have known. He should have. Cass had been watching every video of Steph on patrol that Bruce had - and there were many. And he was furious when he found out. He wanted to rip the costume of her body and cast her into darkness but at the same time he had to admit: She was good. No, she was almost perfect, better than Batman. So, they made a deal: She would have to listen to all of his direct orders, never leaving his field of vision until otherwise stated, and he would help her become Batgirl. She agreed. Bruce had a bad feeling when their hands touched to seal the deal. 
18. Jason Todd was an angry child. Maybe that is why Bruce started to train him. Maybe that is why he let him go out as Falcon. Bruce should really have handled that better. But now it was done: Jason was Falcon, his partner. And Tim was mad at him. His third son had angrily declared that he would move in with the YJ permanently and that he had no interest in finishing college and that Bruce could go fuck himself. Tim called himself Black Bird now. What a ridiculous name. 
19. Damian came back to life full of rage. He was burning, acid green light filling all of his senses. But he was back. He was back and angry and in the hands of the League. 
20. Jason Todd was everything Bruce feared him to be: He was fast, smart, clever, loyal to a fault. He was angry, vengeful, and a bastard. He loved the kid. Hell, he adopted him when the kid was still 14 and now at 15 Bruce would proudly call him his son. And Cass, probably 15 as well, his daughter. But Bruce could see Damian all too well in Jason’s action (and wasn’t it just nauseating that he hadn’t heard from Damian for 3 years?). He feared for the boy, and every time he hit too hard, every time he kicked a goon on purpose, something in Bruce broke.  
21. Stephanie woke up and screamed. She remembered dying. She remembered pain and fear and torture. And yet here she was. Doctor Leslie looked at her when she brought her back with eyes that asked for forgiveness and hands that had control over her life. So, Africa it was. 
22. The Joker. It had been the Joker who killed the third Falcon. Bruce had been too late, Batgirl not allowed to leave Gotham, The Signal on a mission with the League (his second oldest was part of the rooster now), Tim not answering his comm (it was because they weren’t even in this dimension right now but that would neither pacify Bruce nor Tim himself later). Jason was dead. Dead at barely 16, with plans to attend college and to learn how to cook unachieved. And with the cooling body of his forth son still in his arms Bruce swore that there would be no more Falcons. (And no more Batgirls)
23. When Bruce told Cass that she would no longer be Batgirl, she nodded. The next night she went out as Black Bat. Bruce could do nothing to stop her. It was her way of grieving. Well, Bruce grieved by burning his bridges. He didn’t answer his League communicator, he didn’t call Tim or Duke to tell them what happened. Duke knew, of course, Superman informed him personally, but Tim only realized what had happened when he visited the Manor trying to goat Jason into a game of Um, Actually... only to be greeted by the deafening sound of grief. When he confronted Bruce about it, all the man would tell him was that he didn’t need another dead son. Not after Damian. Not after Stephanie. Not after Jason. Tim left.
24. Damian made his coming back by publicly killing the Joker. He hadn’t known the Falcon that had died, had only known that it was his and that nobody was allowed to kill a part of him. Never again. Not after he had to fight through half the League when he got his bearings back. Not after killing had become so easy, he sliced a sword through Ra’s al’Ghul’s back. Damian al’Guhl was back. The Wraith was back. And he was ready to cleanse this city once and for all.
25. Bruce was old by the time he met the last of his birds. He was 47 and he felt every bone in his body as if he was 82. And yet he still went to the circus when Alfred told him to. He still went and watched as the acrobats flew and fell. And fell. And fell. He sat there as a little boy, no older than 10, screamed for his dead mother and father. His heart couldn’t take it. Hadn’t he suffered enough to make sure little boys like the Grayson kid no longer had to? He took the kid with him.
26. Dick Grayson became Robin when he was 11, with an old Batman by his side. Together they hunt The Wraith, Batman’s first son, never catching him. Together with Back Bat Dick learns how to fly freely again. With the Signal how to trust again in the good. Black Bird explains to him how the universe works. And yet... and yet Dick is never sure what his role is. He is a social butterfly and yet it never feels like enough. He doesn’t like the silences between Tim and Bruce and he tries his best to fill them. He doesn’t like the way Duke will sometimes disappear - and how disappointed both Tim and Bruce are by that. He doesn’t like Cass’s yearning look directed at the Falcon uniform that is displayed in the Cave. He doesn’t like how everyone is always sad and quiet and unhappy. 
27. Dick Grayson was still 11 when he went out and found the Wraith. He is still Robin when he asks the Wraith to take him on as his pupil. He is still 11 when he starts in his plan to bring everyone home.
(And if he has to resurrected the dead to do so, then so be it. But Dick isn’t going to sit still until Bruce and Tim and Cass and Alfred and Duke can smile again. And he has the crazy notion that that is only going to happen if Steph, Damian, and Jason come home too)
28. Stephanie Brown finally had enough. She packs her bags and steals away in the dead of night. It is time to go home again.
29. In a grave on the private property of Wayne Manor Jason Todd opens his eyes. There is only darkness above him and a suffocating smell of earth. They buried him. Before he can panic he punches a hole into the lid of the coffin. Time to start digging.
30. Across town a small redheaded girl opened her father’s laptop. She wanted to try that bit of code her science teacher had talked about today during class. Her name was Barbara Gordon.
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31 Days of quietYA: Books for Fans of Time Travel
If time travel is your thing, then I’ve got some good news for you - there’s a lot of it in YA. Some of these aren’t actually/strictly time travel, but you’ll get the gist. 
Loop by Karen Akins
At a school where Quantum Paradox 101 is a required course and history field trips are literal, sixteen year-old time traveler Bree Bennis excels…at screwing up. After Bree botches a solo midterm to the 21st century by accidentally taking a boy hostage (a teensy snafu), she stands to lose her scholarship. But when Bree sneaks back to talk the kid into keeping his yap shut, she doesn't go back far enough. The boy, Finn, now three years older and hot as a solar flare, is convinced he's in love with Bree, or rather, a future version of her that doesn't think he's a complete pain in the arse. To make matters worse, she inadvertently transports him back to the 23rd century with her. Once home, Bree discovers that a recent rash of accidents at her school are anything but accidental. Someone is attacking time travelers. As Bree and her temporal tagalong uncover seemingly unconnected clues—a broken bracelet, a missing data file, the art heist of the millennium—that lead to the person responsible, she alone has the knowledge to piece the puzzle together. Knowledge only one other person has. Her future self. But when those closest to her become the next victims, Bree realizes the attacker is willing to do anything to stop her. In the past, present, or future.
Crewel by Gennifer Albin
Incapable. Awkward. Artless. That’s what the other girls whisper behind her back. But sixteen-year-old Adelice Lewys has a secret: She wants to fail. Gifted with the ability to weave time with matter, she’s exactly what the Guild is looking for, and in the world of Arras, being chosen to work the looms is everything a girl could want. It means privilege, eternal beauty, and being something other than a secretary. It also means the power to manipulate the very fabric of reality. But if controlling what people eat, where they live, and how many children they have is the price of having it all, Adelice isn’t interested. Not that her feelings matter, because she slipped and used her hidden talent for a moment. Now she has one hour to eat her mom’s overcooked pot roast. One hour to listen to her sister’s academy gossip and laugh at her dad’s jokes. One hour to pretend everything’s okay. And one hour to escape. Because tonight, they’ll come for her.
Future Shock by Elizabeth Briggs
Elena Martinez has street smarts, the ability for perfect recall, and a deadline: if she doesn’t find a job before she turns eighteen, she’ll be homeless. But then she gets an unexpected offer from Aether Corporation, the powerful Los Angeles tech giant. Along with four other recruits—Adam, Chris, Trent, and Zoe—Elena is being sent on a secret mission to bring back data from the future. All they have to do is get Aether the information they need, and the five of them will be set for life. It’s an offer Elena can’t refuse. But something goes wrong when the time travelers arrive in the future. And they are forced to break the only rule they were given—not to look into their own fates. Now they have twenty-four hours to get back to the present and find a way to stop a seemingly inevitable future—and a murder—from happening. But changing the timeline has deadly consequences too. Who can Elena trust as she fights to save her life?
The Wood by Chelsea Bobulski
When Winter’s dad goes missing during his nightly patrol of the wood, it falls to her to patrol the time portals and protect the travelers who slip through them. Winter can't help but think there's more to her dad's disappearance than she's being told. She soon finds a young man traveling in the wood named Henry who knows more than he should. He believes if they can work together to find his missing parents, they could discover the truth about Winter’s dad. The wood is poisoned, changing into something sinister—torturing travelers lost in it. Winter must put her trust in Henry in order to find the truth and those they’ve lost.
Cold Summer by Gwen Cole
Kale Jackson has spent years trying to control his time-traveling ability but hasn’t had much luck. One day he lives in 1945, fighting in the war as a sharpshooter and helplessly watching soldiers—friends—die. Then the next day, he’s back in the present, where WWII has bled into his modern life in the form of PTSD, straining his relationship with his father and the few friends he has left. Every day it becomes harder to hide his battle wounds, both physical and mental, from the past. When the ex-girl-next-door, Harper, moves back to town, thoughts of what could be if only he had a normal life begin to haunt him. Harper reminds him of the person he was before the PTSD, which helps anchor him to the present. With practice, maybe Kale could remain in the present permanently and never step foot on a battlefield again. Maybe he can have the normal life he craves. But then Harper finds Kale’s name in a historical article—and he’s listed as a casualty of the war. Kale knows now that he must learn to control his time-traveling ability to save himself and his chance at a life with Harper. Otherwise, he’ll be killed in a time where he doesn’t belong by a bullet that was never meant for him.
Until We Meet Again by Renee Collins
Cassandra craves drama and adventure, so the last thing she wants is to spend her summer marooned with her mother and stepfather in a snooty Massachusetts shore town. But when a dreamy stranger shows up on their private beach claiming it's his own—and that the year is 1925—she is swept into a mystery a hundred years in the making. As she searches for answers in the present, Cassandra discovers a truth that puts their growing love—and Lawrence's life—into jeopardy. Desperate to save him, Cassandra must find a way to change history…or risk losing Lawrence forever.
Tempest by Julie Cross
The year is 2009. Nineteen-year-old Jackson Meyer is a normal guy… he's in college, has a girlfriend… and he can travel back through time. But it's not like the movies — nothing changes in the present after his jumps, there's no space-time continuum issues or broken flux capacitors — it's just harmless fun. That is… until the day strangers burst in on Jackson and his girlfriend, Holly, and during a struggle with Jackson, Holly is fatally shot. In his panic, Jackson jumps back two years to 2007, but this is not like his previous time jumps. Now he's stuck in 2007 and can't get back to the future. Desperate to somehow return to 2009 to save Holly but unable to return to his rightful year, Jackson settles into 2007 and learns what he can about his abilities. But it's not long before the people who shot Holly in 2009 come looking for Jackson in the past, and these "Enemies of Time" will stop at nothing to recruit this powerful young time-traveler. Recruit… or kill him. Piecing together the clues about his father, the Enemies of Time, and himself, Jackson must decide how far he's willing to go to save Holly… and possibly the entire world.
Traveler by L.E. DeLano
Jessa has spent her life dreaming of other worlds and writing down stories more interesting than her own, until the day her favorite character, Finn, suddenly shows up and invites her out for coffee. After the requisite nervous breakdown, Jessa learns that she and Finn are Travelers, born with the ability to slide through reflections and dreams into alternate realities. But it’s not all steampunk pirates and fantasy lifestyles—Jessa is dying over and over again, in every reality, and Finn is determined that this time, he’s going to stop it…This Jessa is going to live.
A Kiss in Time by Alex Flinn
Talia fell under a spell...Jack broke the curse. I was told to beware the accursed spindle, but it was so enchanting, so hypnotic... I was looking for a little adventure the day I ditched my tour group. But finding a comatose town, with a hot-looking chick asleep in it, was so not what I had in mind. I awakened in the same place but in another time—to a stranger's soft kiss. I couldn't help kissing her. Sometimes you just have to kiss someone. I didn't know this would happen. Now I am in dire trouble because my father, the king, says I have brought ruin upon our country. I have no choice but to run away with this commoner! Now I'm stuck with a bratty princess and a trunk full of her jewels...The good news: My parents will freak! Think you have dating issues? Try locking lips with a snoozing stunner who turns out to be 316 years old. Can a kiss transcend all—even time?
Invictus by Ryan Graudin
Farway Gaius McCarthy was born outside of time. The son of a time-traveling Recorder from 2354 AD and a gladiator living in Rome in 95 AD, Far's birth defies the laws of nature. Exploring history himself is all he's ever wanted, and after failing his final time-traveling exam, Far takes a position commanding a ship with a crew of his friends as part of a black market operation to steal valuables from the past. But during a heist on the sinking Titanic, Far meets a mysterious girl who always seems to be one step ahead of him. Armed with knowledge that will bring Far's very existence into question, she will lead Far and his team on a race through time to discover a frightening truth: History is not as steady as it seems.
The Square Root of Summer by Harriet Reuter Hapgood
Gottie H. Oppenheimer is losing time. Literally. When the fabric of the universe around her seaside town begins to fray, she's hurtled through wormholes to her past: To last summer, when her grandfather Grey died. To the afternoon she fell in love with Jason, who wouldn't even hold her hand at the funeral. To the day her best friend Thomas moved away and left her behind with a scar on her hand and a black hole in her memory. Although Grey is still gone, Jason and Thomas are back, and Gottie's past, present, and future are about to collide—and someone's heart is about to be broken.
The Girl From Everywhere by Heidi Heilig
Nix has spent her entire life aboard her father’s ship, sailing across the centuries, across the world, across myth and imagination. As long as her father has a map for it, he can sail to any time, any place, real or imagined: nineteenth-century China, the land from One Thousand and One Nights, a mythic version of Africa. Along the way they have found crewmates and friends, and even a disarming thief who could come to mean much more to Nix. But the end to it all looms closer every day. Her father is obsessed with obtaining the one map, 1868 Honolulu, that could take him back to his lost love, Nix’s mother. Even though getting it—and going there—could erase Nix’s very existence. For the first time, Nix is entering unknown waters. She could find herself, find her family, find her own fantastical ability, her own epic love. Or she could disappear.
The Love That Split the World by Emily Henry
Natalie’s last summer in her small Kentucky hometown is off to a magical start…until she starts seeing the “wrong things.” At first, they’re just momentary glimpses—her front door is red instead of its usual green, there’s a pre-school where the garden store should be. But then her whole town disappears for hours, fading away into rolling hills and grazing buffalo, and Nat knows something isn’t right. That’s when she gets a visit from the kind but mysterious apparition she calls “Grandmother,” who tells her: “You have three months to save him.” The next night, under the stadium lights of the high school football field, she meets a beautiful boy named Beau, and it’s as if time just stops and nothing exists. Nothing, except Natalie and Beau.
Proof of Forever by Lexa Hillyer
Before: It was the perfect summer of first kisses, skinny-dipping, and bonfires by the lake. Joy, Tali, Luce, and Zoe knew their final summer at Camp Okahatchee would come to an end, but they swore they’d stay friends. After: Now, two years later, their bond has faded along with those memories. Then: That is, until the fateful flash of a photo booth camera transports the four of them back in time, to the summer they were fifteen—the summer everything changed. Now: The girls must recreate the past in order to return to the present. As they live through their second-chance summer, the mystery behind their lost friendship unravels, and a dark secret threatens to tear the girls apart all over again. Always: Summers end. But this one will change them forever.
Prada and Prejudice by Mandy Hubbard
Fifteen-year-old Callie buys a pair of real Prada pumps to impress the cool crowd on a school trip to London. Goodbye, Callie the clumsy geek-girl, hello popularity! But before she knows what’s hit her, Callie wobbles, trips, conks her head...and wakes up in the year 1815!
She stumbles about until she meets the kind-hearted Emily, who takes Callie in, mistaking her for a long-lost friend. Sparks soon fly between Callie and Emily’s cousin, Alex, the maddeningly handsome - though totally arrogant - Duke of Harksbury. Too bad he seems to have something sinister up his ruffled sleeve...
From face-planting off velvet piano benches and hiding behind claw-foot couches to streaking through the estate halls wearing nothing but an itchy blanket, Callie’s curiosity about Alex creates all kinds of trouble.
But the grandfather clock is ticking on her 19th Century shenanigans. Can Callie save Emily from a dire engagement, win a kiss from Alex, and prove to herself that she’s more than just a loud-mouth klutz before her time there is up?
The Edge of Forever by Melissa E. Hurst
In 2013, sixteen-year-old Alora is having blackouts. Each time she wakes up in a different place with no idea how she got there. The one thing she is certain of? Someone is following her. In 2146, seventeen-year-old Bridger is one of a small number of people born with the ability to travel to the past. While on a routine school time trip, he sees the last person he expected—his dead father. The strangest part is that, according to the Department of Temporal Affairs, his father was never assigned to be in that time. Bridger’s even more stunned when he learns that his by-the-book father was there to break the most important rule of time travel—to prevent someone’s murder. And that someone is named Alora. Determined to discover why his father wanted to help a “ghost,” Bridger illegally shifts to 2013 and, along with Alora, races to solve the mystery surrounding her past and her connection to his father before the DTA finds him. If he can stop Alora’s death without altering the timeline, maybe he can save his father too.
The Next Together by Laura James
Katherine and Matthew are destined to be born again and again, century after century. Each time, their presence changes history for the better, and each time, they fall hopelessly in love, only to be tragically separated. Spanning the Crimean War, the Siege of Carlisle and the near-future of 2019 and 2039 they find themselves sacrificing their lives to save the world. But why do they keep coming back? What else must they achieve before they can be left to live and love in peace? Maybe the next together will be different...
Return Once More by Trisha Leigh
Years have passed since refugees from a ruined earth took to space, eventually settling a new system of planets. Science has not only made the leaps necessary to allow time travel, but the process engineered a strange side effect—predicting your one true love. Sixteen-year-old Kaia Vespasian is an apprentice to the Historians—a group charged with using time travel to document the triumphs and failures of the past—and she can’t resist a peek at her long-dead soul mate in Ancient Egypt. Before she knows it, she’s broken every rule in the book, and the consequences of getting caught could destroy more than just her new romance. But when Kaia notices a fellow classmate snooping around in a time where he doesn’t belong, she suspects he has a secret of his own—and the conspiracy she uncovers could threaten the entire universe. If her experience has taught her anything, to changing history means facing the consequences. The Historians trained her to observe and record the past, but Kaia never guessed she might have to protect it— in a race across time to save her only chance at a future.
The Girl with the Red Balloon by Katherine Locke
Ever since she arrived in Germany on a school trip, Ellie Baum has felt the weight of history on her. After all, she’s the first one in her family to return since her grandfather’s miraculous escape from a death camp, and in Berlin, pieces of the past—World War II, the Cold War—are still visible decades later. One day, visiting the Berlin Wall Memorial, she sees a stray balloon floating across the park, and she wanders away from the crowd to follow it. One moment she’s reaching out to grab it—the next, she’s yanked back through time to when the wall is still standing. It is 1988, and Ellie is in East Berlin. Nobody knows how she got there, not even the members of the underground guild—the Runners and the Schöpfers—who use balloons and magic to help people escape over the wall. Now as a stranger in an oppressive regime, Ellie must hide from the police with the help of Kai, a Runner struggling with his own uneasy relationship with the powerful Balloonmakers and his growing feelings for Ellie. Together they search for the truth behind Ellie’s mysterious time travel, and when they uncover a plot to alter history with dark magic, she must risk everything—including her only way home—to stop the deadly plans.
The Spy with the Red Balloon by Katherine Locke
Siblings Ilse and Wolf hide a deep secret in their blood: with it, they can work magic. And the government just found out.Blackmailed into service during World War II, Ilse lends her magic to America’s newest weapon, the atom bomb, while Wolf goes behind enemy lines to sabotage Germany’s nuclear program. It’s a dangerous mission, but if Hitler were to create the bomb first, the results would be catastrophic. When Wolf’s plane is shot down, his entire mission is thrown into jeopardy. Wolf needs Ilse’s help to develop the magic that will keep him alive, but with a spy afoot in Ilse’s laboratory, the letters she sends to Wolf begin to look treasonous. Can Ilse prove her loyalty—and find a way to help her brother—before their time runs out?
Kissing Shakespeare by Pamela Mingle
Miranda has Shakespeare in her blood: she hopes one day to become a Shakespearean actor like her famous parents. At least, she does until her disastrous performance in her school's staging of The Taming of the Shrew. Humiliated, Miranda skips the opening-night party. All she wants to do is hide. Fellow cast member, Stephen Langford, has other plans for Miranda. When he steps out of the backstage shadows and asks if she'd like to meet Shakespeare, Miranda thinks he's a total nutcase. But before she can object, Stephen whisks her back to 16th century England—the world Stephen's really from. He wants Miranda to use her acting talents and modern-day charms on the young Will Shakespeare. Without her help, Stephen claims, the world will lost its greatest playwright. Miranda isn't convinced she's the girl for the job. Why would Shakespeare care about her? And just who is this infuriating time traveler, Stephen Langford? Reluctantly, she agrees to help, knowing that it's her only chance of getting back to the present and her "real" life. What Miranda doesn't bargain for is finding true love . . . with no acting required.
Timeless by Alexandra Monir
When tragedy strikes Michele Windsor's family, she is forced to move from Los Angeles to New York City to live with the wealthy, aristocratic grandparents she has never met. In their historic Fifth Avenue mansion, filled with a century's worth of family secrets, Michele discovers the biggest family secret of all - an ancestor's diary that, amazingly, has the power to send her back in time to 1910, the year it was written. There, at a glamorous high-society masquerade ball, Michele meets the young man with striking blue eyes who has haunted her dreams all her life. And she finds herself falling for him, and into an otherworldly romance. Soon Michele is leading a double life, struggling to balance her contemporary high school world with her escapes into the past. But when she stumbles upon a terrible discovery, she is propelled on a race through history to save the boy she loves - and to complete a quest that will determine their fate.
Now That You’re Here by Amy Nichols
In a parallel universe, the classic bad boy falls for the class science geek. One minute Danny was running from the cops, and the next, he jolted awake in an unfamiliar body - his own, but different. Somehow, he's crossed into a parallel universe. Now his friends are his enemies, his parents are long dead, and studious Eevee is not the mysterious femme fatale he once kissed back home. Then again, this Eevee - a girl who'd rather land an internship at NASA than a date to the prom--may be his only hope of getting home. Eevee tells herself she's only helping him in the name of quantum physics, but there's something undeniably fascinating about this boy from another dimension... a boy who makes her question who she is, and who she might be in another place and time.
Stolen Time by Danielle Rollins (coming February 5, 2019)
Seattle, 1913 // Dorothy is trapped. Forced into an engagement to a wealthy man just so she and her mother can live comfortably for the rest of their days, she’ll do anything to escape. Including sneaking away from her wedding and bolting into the woods to disappear. New Seattle, 2077 // Ash is on a mission. Rescue the professor—his mentor who figured out the secret to time travel—so together they can put things right in their devastated city. But searching for one man means endless jumps through time with no guarantee of success. When Dorothy collides with Ash, she sees it as her chance to start fresh—she’ll stow away in his plane and begin a new life wherever they land. Then she wakes up in a future that’s been ripped apart by earthquakes and floods; where vicious gangs rule the submerged city streets and a small group of intrepid travelers from across time are fighting against the odds to return things to normal. What Dorothy doesn’t know is that she could hold the key to unraveling the past—and her arrival may spell Ash’s ultimate destruction.
Time Between Us by Tamara Ireland Stone
Anna and Bennett were never supposed to meet: she lives in 1995 Chicago and he lives in 2012 San Francisco. But Bennett has the unique ability to travel through time and space, which brings him into Anna’s life, and with him a new world of adventure and possibility. As their relationship deepens, the two face the reality that time may knock Bennett back to where he belongs, even as a devastating crisis throws everything they believe into question. Against a ticking clock, Anna and Bennett are forced to ask themselves how far they can push the bounds of fate, what consequences they can bear in order to stay together, and whether their love can stand the test of time.
Into the Dim by Janet B. Taylor
When fragile, sixteen-year-old Hope Walton loses her mom to an earthquake overseas, her secluded world crumbles. Agreeing to spend the summer in Scotland, Hope discovers that her mother was more than a brilliant academic, but also a member of a secret society of time travelers. Trapped in the twelfth century in the age of Eleanor of Aquitaine, Hope has seventy-two hours to rescue her mother and get back to their own time. Along the way, her path collides with that of a mysterious boy who could be vital to her mission . . . or the key to Hope’s undoing.
All Our Yesterdays by Cristin Terrill
Em is locked in a bare, cold cell with no comforts. Finn is in the cell next door. The Doctor is keeping them there until they tell him what he wants to know. Trouble is, what he wants to know hasn't happened yet. Em and Finn have a shared past, but no future unless they can find a way out. The present is torture - being kept apart, overhearing each other's anguish as the Doctor relentlessly seeks answers. There's no way back from here, to what they used to be, the world they used to know. Then Em finds a note in her cell which changes everything. It's from her future self and contains some simple but very clear instructions. Em must travel back in time to avert a tragedy that's about to unfold. Worse, she has to pursue and kill the boy she loves to change the future.
Summer of Yesterday by Gaby Triana
Summer officially sucks. Thanks to a stupid seizure she had a few months earlier, Haley’s stuck going on vacation with her dad and his new family to Disney’s Fort Wilderness instead of enjoying the last session of summer camp back home with her friends. Fort Wilderness holds lots of childhood memories for her father, but surely nothing for Haley. But then a new seizure triggers something she’s never before experienced—time travel—and she ends up in River Country, the campground’s long-abandoned water park, during its heyday. The year? 1982. And there—with its amusing fashion, “oldies” music, and primitive technology—she runs into familiar faces: teenage Dad and Mom before they’d even met. Somehow, Haley must find her way back to the twenty-first century before her present-day parents anguish over her disappearance, a difficult feat now that she’s met Jason, one of the park’s summer residents and employees, who takes the strangely dressed stowaway under his wing. Seizures aside, Haley’s used to controlling her life, and she has no idea how to deal with this dilemma. How can she be falling for a boy whose future she can’t share?
Steel by Carrie Vaughn
A mysterious broken sword transports a modern teen through time to the deck of a pirate ship. Stranded in the past, and surrounded by strangers, she is forced to sign on as crew. But a pirate's life is bloody and brief, and as she learns about the dark magic that brought her there, she forms a desperate scheme to get home—one that risks everything in a duel to the death with a villainous pirate captain!
Wildwing by Emily Whitman
When Addy is swept back in time, she couldn't be happier to leave her miserable life behind. Now she's mistaken for Lady Matilda, the pampered ward of the king. If Addy can play her part, she'll have glorious gowns, jewels, and something she's always longed for the respect and admiration of others. But then she meets Will, the falconer's son with sky blue eyes, who unsettles all her plans.
From shipwrecks to castle dungeons, from betrothals to hidden conspiracies, Addy finds herself in a world where she's not the only one with a dangerous secret. When she discovers the truth, Addy must take matters into her own hands. The stakes? Her chance at true love . . . and the life she's meant to live.
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Welcome to Chaos
@chromium7sky, again a HUGE thanks to her for allowing me to use the Batlings for this story!
Spoilers for Hopes for a Bastard!
Hell Sweet Hell...
Damian took a moment as he stared at the face of this Raven to pick out ever minute difference between this one and his wife. This Raven was younger, she looked barely twenty years old; at the most, her eyes were sharper, more predatory, her face more apathetic, and there was an edge there that his wife did not have. This Raven, like his wife, radiated power, oozed magic, and displayed nothing but confidence, even as she was wrangling an over enthusiastic Ingo.
He took a moment to turn his head to stare at the other four children here, he recognized Mar'i, her solid glowing green eyes, black flaming hair, and innocent face. She looked about a year old. There was a girl, a wee bit older than Mar'i, looking about Ingo’s age, dual colored eyes, one brillian blue eye and a green eye, heterchromia, his twins had it; it must have been somewhere in his father’s line, he deduced staring at the girl. This girl looked like Selina and his father though, she was rather precious looking with her dual colored eyes, and he softened at her. There was another girl, he recognized Roy’s spawn, those dark forest green eyes and straight black hair, she looked like her mother. Then there was a child that stared at him with icy blue, almost translucent blue, eyes, with ivory skin so pale it was like ice, and hair as inky black as his own, this child he did not recognize.
“What the!?” Raven shrieked, he saw her throw up a shadow to catch herself as she surrendered and propped his son on her hip. Her hair was midnight black, but the same lavender undertones were there, but against his son’s brilliant violet hair, it was just black.
“He’s colicky and his mother’s son,” he supplied for her.
“I’m not his mother!” she gasped. Ingo was snuggling up against her and clinging tightly to her hoodie, it looked like one of the tacky ones Todd always wore in his home.
“What happened?” he finally asked rubbing his temples, he just wanted some clarity here, from Raven.
“My guess, he’s got powers, and they’re manifesting, and he can’t control them. They’re probably triggered by his emotions, he sought out a familiar psyche or taste of emotions and somehow he brought you both here,” Raven deduced.
“And where is here?” Damian demanded.
“I don’t know where it is in corilation to your universe, it’s my home though,” she said.
“Who are they?” he gestured to the children; he wanted confirmation.
“Mar'i, Helena, Lian and Terry,” Raven answered sitting, Ingo was humming as he tapped Raven’s cheek.
“And how old are you?” he asked staring at her.
“Why?”
“You look like a child.”
“Thanks. I’m twenty, I’ll be legal in June,” she muttered.
“Can you help me?” Damian asked.
“Yeah,” she sighed. “I’ll call Jay and my Dami back.”
Damian stood as he looked out at the city, the Bat loomed overhead, it seemed… grungier here.
~~~*~*~*~~~
Jason didn’t land near where the commissioner could nab him up, and kicked the kid to the precinct roof as he lay very still, with is rifle in hand as he trained it on the perimeter and listened to the commish through the coms four the fourth meeting of the night; it was only midnight. His phone from Raven buzzed and habit had him answering.
“In the middle of something sunshine, can I call ya back?” he asked.
“I got a problem?”
“It’s called sugar overload,” he answered.
“Ha-ha. No, I have a serious problem, Red,” she countered.
“What’s on fire?”
“Well, nothing.”
“Then you’re good.”
“Mmm… I’m staring at Robin,” she countered.
“Queen, he’s with me, so that’s not possible,”
“Normally I’d agree.”
“How would you disagree, I’m looking at the demon spawn right now, he’s talking with the commish,” he said.
“Well… he’s about thirty, very handsome, condescending attitude, Talia’s green eyes, he favors his mother, Jay, and he’s got a baby he had with me,” she said.
Jason stiffened at that. “Jail bait’s not old enough to have a kid, Rae.”
“Mmm, he is in a different dimension.”
“WHAT!?” he sputtered.
“Yeah. That kid I told you about, brought him here,” Raven answered.
“I’ll collect the batbrat and we’ll be back in fifteen,” Jason sighed.
“Thanks,” she replied. Jason hung up, and continued his watch of Damian. This was going to be fucking weird, he knew it, he could feel it in his bones as he watched the bat brat. The kid was running off the building when Jason spoke into their comms.
“This night is boring,” Damian complained before Jason could even speak.
“Boring is best,” Jason pointed out dryly. Because he had a feeling the moment they met up with Raven it would no longer be boring. Jason kind of missed the days when the weirdest thing he had to deal with was himself. “Kay, we gotta head in for the night.”
“But there’s still work to be done.”
“I think that little bird’s problem trumps us knee capping a few more thugs,” Jason answered dryly.
“What happened!?” Damian's tone was sharp, Jason packed his rifle and was running rooftops.
“Magic shit happened, meet you at the Cave, check in is fifteen,” Jason snapped as he leapt off the roof.
Damian grunted and the comms went silent.
Jason supposed that worst case this was another nasty trip through the multiverse for him, and he wasn’t thrilled at the thought as he landed then leapt onto his bike before revving the engine and blasting out of the alley. He soared into traffic as he headed for a secondary entrance for the Cave, which would take him beneath the harbor for the Cave.
Whatever it was that Raven had entangled herself in he hoped that it didn’t involve him getting his ass kicked into the multiverse again. He was still suffering whiplash from his first trip around the multiverse.
Please let this problem be an easy fix, he pleaded with the fates vainly.
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Raven hung up her phone and saw weird, grown up Damian staring out at Gotham.
“The city is filthier than the one I live in,” he muttered.
“I don’t know, it’s pretty clean to what it was according to Dick,” Raven defended. She felt the need to defend Gotham because this was he moms’ home. Harley and Ivy loved Gotham, though Raven stubbornly remained a New Yorker and Victor stubbornly remained a Bostonian. Damian glowered at her, but she folded her arms.
“That is an inappropriate shirt for a young lady in the Wayne home to be wearing,” Damian stated.
Raven glanced down at her shirt; ‘On A Beer Run’ was what it red, now she remembered she was in yoga pants and a hoodie with this tank top, Jason’s hoodie to be precise.
“And I thought you’d be taller,” she jabbed and saw that she had hit a sore spot of his as she smugly smirked. He radiated this power and she almost thought it to be impressive. Almost.
“You are not like my wife.”
“I doubt your Raven and I have lived through the exact same things,” Raven felt the need to point this out.
He sighed. “I suppose not,” he admitted then looked down at her with a gaze somewhere between cold and condescending and kind and loving. “Damian al Ghul-Wayne, Batman,” he bowed a bit at her, and she blinked.
“Rachel Roth, Raven,” she replied. She bounced the baby on her hip.
Ingram Alfred Wayne! A voice stated demandingly in her head which had her jolting as she stared at the baby, he blinked up at her with brilliant emerald eyes and she stared back. He looked like her; it was unnerving.
“Hello, Ingram.”
“Ingo,” Damian corrected.
“He’s telepathic,” Raven stated.
The older Damian blinked as if this were news to him, and then looked at his son, unblinkingly. “I was unaware of this development,” he muttered.
“Alright Ingo, if you’re smart enough to telepathically communicate you’ll listen to this,” Raven stated and hoisted the boy so they were eye to eye. “I’m Not Your Mom.”
Those green eyes widened then started misting as the baby’s bottom lip quivered.
“You dimension traveled, I’ll get you home, but I’m not your mom,” she repeated. Ingo sniffed and she set him on her hip again.
“Mama,” he whimpered as he clutched her tank top and buried his head in he shoulder.
“Was that necessary?”
“Actually, yes, it was, because I’m not his mom despite being Raven. I learned this, he’ll have to learn this too if he dimension travels,” Raven admitted.
“He is a baby.”
“Capable of telepathic communication and dimension hopping, it is important he learn his reality, even your Raven will agree with that. And I have not rejected the child, merely clarified that there is more than one version of his mother in the universe, which is important for him to know,” Raven stated.
Ingo was sucking on the sweatshirt string now and stared at her with curious eyes rather than all adoring.
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It was a ripple which had his eyes opening as he sat up in the afternoon sun beating warmly down on his black fur. His tails swished as he looked around for the disturbance of the ripple of power then he was up and padding for a portal.
He must alert his mistress to this.
Nosferatu was a faithful, loyal familiar, and as the nekomata of the Gem of Scath he felt the need to alert her to the power ripple. The power was too familiar to not need to alert her, too much of the demon was in this power.
“DADDY!” a scream alerted Nosferatu to the offspring of his child which had his ears flattening at the child’s pitch, then he rounded the corner to be face to face with a round tear stained, dual colored eyed face of Fawke.
“NOS!” she screamed before she threw her arms around him and sobbed into his fur.
“Unhand me spawn!” he screeched as he attempted to squirm to his escape, the girl howled in pain before shadows exploded which had him going limp in the toddler’s grasp.
“Daddy Gone!” she cried.
“Cease this prattle, your father is somewhere about,” he growled as he was dragged with Fawke towards the human nursery. Great, the offspring were left unattended. Idiotic humans! And they dare to think him nothing more than a best.
Yōkai did not leave their young unattended! It was too much power running rampant.
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His eyes opened and he rumbled feeling the power, so much raw power.
Others eyes opened, and they rumbled as they were spurred to life, sliding through the fires of hell.
“Power,” he growled, and there was a magnetic pull to the power as he opened a portal from Hell towards the power and walked out.
“Sister,” his brothers whined.
“Power,” another whine and he stared out at the dreary night as his six eyes whirled and he felt a pulse of magic energy.
“Scath,” he groaned pleasurably feeling his sister’s power radiating around the raw untapped power of something new and unknown. He’d claim it, claim it as his own. His brothers surged forward, and he walked towards the shadows as he sought out this power. It would be his! His! Then he’d be King of Hell! Surpassing their terrifying father!
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It wasn’t all that terrible if she called her husband to check in right!?
Raven tilted her head back and saw the time, then groaned as she face planted in her pillow.
She was pathetic, it was two a.m., they would all be asleep. She would not be THAT woman with no faith in her husband, he could handle this. She was sure he could.
Still, she wanted to check in…
But she didn’t want to wound Damian's pride.
Groaning she surrendered, getting up she grabbed some ZzzQuil to knock herself out. She’d call in the morning when she wasn’t half dead from worry. Her husband could handle a night with the kids, and if he couldn’t she’d go straight home. Yes, she liked that plan!
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Anonymous said: if you have the time, could we maybe please have your absolute /worst/ headcanons about Dick mourning Damian? before/during Spyral? btw u are an absolute gift :*
Shoot I meant to put this one into the fic today too. Oh well. Damian and Dick angst is here
Anonymous said: everytime I see something about damian it reminds me of you
The highest praise I’ve ever received :’)
Anonymous said: do you know of other batblogs that don't do ships?
Uhhhhhh I don’t think so? I can’t think of anyone else that’s entirely ship-free, but frankly I don’t follow very many people. How bout this? If any of y'all ARE ship-free, reply in the notes. That way we’ll know :)
Anonymous said: Song recs: "Centuries" by Fall Out Boy (Justice League), "Remember The Name" by Fort Minor ft. Styles of Beyond (this is THE Batfam song!), "Counting Stars" by OneRepublic (Dick), "All The Right Moves" by OneRepublic (Batkids), "Tiptoe" by Imagine Dragons (Batkids), "Warrior" by Beth Crowley (Batgirls), "Shatter Me" by Lindsey Stirling ft. Lzzy Hale (Babs), "Disarm" by The Civil Wars (Jason), "Demons" by Imagine Dragons (Jason), "Afterlife" by Ingrid Michaelson (Batkids).
Oooooooh thank you these are very nice! I hadn’t heard most of them
Anonymous said: Batfam/kids song recs! "Renegades" by X-Ambassadors, "When The Darkness Comes" by Colbie Caillat, "Royals" and "Rule the World" by Lorde, "Midnight" and "Fix You" by Coldplay and "Bad Blood" by Bastille. Also for Dick: "Pompeii" by Bastille and "Hopeless Wanderer" by Mumford & Sons.
Thanks! Idk if this was one person or two, but please continue to send me music, y'all, I like it
Anonymous said: no need to be batfamily centric, what comics would you recommend for someone getting into comics now?
Red Robin (2009)
Batgirl (2009)
Batman and Robin (2009)
Batman and Robin (2011)
Robin: Son of Batman (2015)
Batman: Under the Red Hood
Batman: The Black Mirror
Batman: The Court of Owls
Batman: Death of the Family
Good enough for a start? I don’t read a lot outside the batfamily titles, I’m afraid
Anonymous said: Omg I love your writing. Can I request Damian and Jason fighting about Damian and Jon's missions?
Hm I’m a lil backlogged just now, but I think there’s a pretty good chance that Jon will show up eventually. Just probably not real soon :/
Anonymous said: I'm new to the DC comic world, but I'm a bit curious as to how fans feel/reacted about one thing: Talia drugging and taking advantage of Bruce? Do fans feel the same about that as they would if that had happened to a female character? Was it a big deal? I was shocked to find out it had happened, and want to know how other fans feel. Did the writers ever later address it?
Oh boy
In my experience there are two schools of thought:
1) People that like Talia and choose to use the older version of canon, where Bruce and Talia were in love and the rape never happened
2) People that hate Talia
As always, I’d prefer not to say which side I come down on, and I won’t answer any personal questions related to Talia. It’s a bit of a hot button topic, and I prefer to avoid conflict. Thank you. Let’s continue.
Here’s the thing, anon-- Damian was created by a writer named Grant Morrison in 2006. Before that, there was a storyline where Bruce and Talia had a baby, and she gave him up for adoption without telling him. Historically, Bruce and Talia’s relationship has been pretty straightforward: they liked each other, and any romantic interactions were consensual. 
Morrison changed that. I can’t say for certain why, but you can read a bit more about my opinion of him over here. In Morrison’s version, Damian was conceived by rape, for eugenic purposes; they were trying to create the ideal heir from al Ghul and Wayne DNA.
Talia drugged Bruce’s drink, and yes, that is absolutely rape. No doubt about it. Rape. It’s disgusting and unnecessary, and it doesn’t really make sense, considering the thirty-five years of material that came before Morrison’s Talia. 
Because of that, it’s a divisive topic. There are a lot of people who argue that since Talia’s actions were out of character for her (and since Morrison went on to make her do other out of character things, like murdering her own son) the rape should be removed from canon. Those folks generally substitute the older storyline where Bruce and Talia were in love. 
That kind of thinking really isn't that uncommon for comic fans because the way comic canon is constructed-- multiple writers with varying skill levels who frequently produce overlapping or contradictory accounts of the same events-- presents us with multiple versions to choose from. A small and unrelated example: in his original version, Tim Drake dropped out of high school before graduation. In the n52, he graduated early. I prefer the older version, so even when I read the n52, I think of Tim as a high school drop out.
There are also canon story lines that I just don’t acknowledge, Battle for the Cowl being the easiest example. I know that the characterization is awful, so I pretend it never happened.
Morrison dramatically changed who Talia is as a character, not just at that specific point, but continually from 2006 to 2013. Since he retired, Talia has been shifting back to her older incarnation (again, see the link from above). You’re going to find a lot of folks who are happy with that, and those are likely to be the same people that edit the rape out of Talia’s history. 
You’re also going to find folks on the other side of the issue-- people that acknowledge the rape and believe that it would be wrong to edit it out of history. Morrison’s Talia, while mischaracterized, has been around for a long time with some very dramatic effects. Damian’s redemption storyline, death, resurrection, and general personality all depend on Talia’s action while Morrison was writing her-- if you choose to ignore all of that, Damian as we know him can’t exist, and he��s been a giant part of the general bat canon for the last eleven years. 
Beyond that, rape and filicide are awful, horrifying crimes, and they both happened within Talia’s canon. They’re the current version. They haven’t been retconned. As a matter of fact, Morrison isn’t the only one circulating that version-- the recent animated movies about Damian explicitly include the rape, and those began in 2014. 
You also made an excellent point when you asked about gender-- male rape victims are treated incredibly poorly in fiction and life, and I think it’s fair to argue that ignoring Bruce’s canonical rape contributes to that. Bruce isn’t the only member of the batfamily with this issue either. Dick was raped by Tarantula in 2002 (he asked her not to touch him, he was in shock and immobile, and she had sex with him anyway), and that writer (Devon Grayson) didn’t even call it rape. Would the rape of either of those men be treated differently if they were women? I don’t know. I can’t really answer a hypothetical. But it’s worth thinking about.
When it comes to Talia, I’d say my experience with general opinion has been about a 50/50 split? That being said, I am very young, and I’ve only been in this game for five years. I can’t tell you how any of this went over in 2006 because I was a ten year old at the time, and I don’t think I know anyone older who could tell me.
As far as writers go... I don’t recall Bruce’s emotional state being addressed in any way. Most of the time, writers don’t directly talk about it. Some of them seem to lean towards the earlier version by framing Bruce and Talia as a love story; however, that doesn’t mean that by omitting the rape, they retcon it. People are raped by their partners or spouses all the time. Saying that Bruce loved Talia doesn’t automatically erase the rape. Implying that Bruce and Talia had consensual sex before or after Damian’s conception doesn’t automatically erase the rape. Frankly it would be very hard to retcon, since there would have to be some kind of statement within the dialogue denying any kind of drugging. 
I don’t know if any of this will ever be addressed, but I’ve written a lot more than I meant to now, so I’m going to stop. I hope I answered all your questions. If I didn’t, you could try sending me a message instead of an ask, and we can talk more about it in private
@another-nameless-person said: The CTC story reminds me so much of my own family omg. I am so happy I'm not the only one with a big family who does this too. I'm so happy I've since moved out of my moms and can stash my own junk food at home lol
Right? I’m only just now kicking the habit of hiding my food. I also recently realized that I’m allowed to drink directly from the bottles now, which is fun
@coredesignixandnekonee said: Do you think, in a world where Nightwing knows Starfire, Oracle, Miss Martian, Red Arrow/Arsenal, and Kid Flash (Wally West1) that there's a "red headed friends of Robin/Nightwing" club where they hang out and complain about him with tea and cookies?
Wally, dipping Oreos in his milk: listen guys I know for a fact he isn’t sleeping and I think we’re gonna have to make him. Whose turn is it
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Happy Mid Season Premiere Week!!
Hello fandom family! Sorry I’ve been a bit MIA. Tried to keep up the posting but it was a bit quiet out there. Hiatus is so looooong.
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NOT TODAY THOUGH!!!!
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Today was an Olicity Marketing Blitz day and boy it was fun. About damn time.
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Stephen and Emily were playing together on Twitter.
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The CW Network was promoting Olicity on TWITTER.
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And Marc did a big interview with EW. There were lots of goodies!
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Today was the marketing equivalent of an ex sending flowers. 
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They are sorry fandom. Here comes the woo. 
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So, I wanted to talk a bit about the interview with Marc. There so many times I talk about interviews when they seem negative or are negative. I thought it’d be a nice change of pace to focus on a really great interview! As usual I have lots of thoughts...
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I’m going to address the questions/answers I found most interesting.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Now that Oliver knows Prometheus’ vendetta is personal, what’s his next move? 
MARC GUGGENHEIM: He learned two critical things in the midseason finale that will help him track down and identify Prometheus: He learned that Prometheus and he share a trainer, and he learned that Prometheus obviously was Justin Claybourne’s illegitimate son. That gives him two good clue trails to be following. He’ll be doing that in fits and starts as the season kicks back up.
Prometheus is OBVIOUSLY Justin Claybourne’s illegitimate son? 
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I readily accept this is probably wishful thinking on my part, but isn’t that part of the problem? That it’s so freaking obvious that it’s too obvious? Marc’s use of the word “obvious” feels like a hard sell to me. I don’t buy this Justin Claybourne backstory. No sir. Ashes and a baby picture and TA DA????? No.  I’m calling shenanigans. There’s more to this. I sense a misdirect.
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How does Prometheus force Oliver to reassess his decisions?
This goes to the larger arc of the year, which is Oliver questioning the consequences of his actions in general. What has been the prevailing theme of the season is Oliver is trying to grow and develop as a person, but the actions of his past keep literally haunting him, so it’s going to affect Oliver in a very big way going forward for the rest of the year.
I could meta on this alone, so prep for a long answer. I feel like this is Marc speak for “Oliver is becoming the light.” In reality, what season hasn’t Oliver’s darkness or past haunted him in some way? Pretty much every season right? The point of this season is trying to move him across the finish line of this five year journey. Part of that process is regression. We watch Oliver regress every season. In fact, his development as a hero and as a man has been a painfully slow (and frustrating) process. It’s one of the reasons I’m excited to drop this five year arc because I think it will free Arrow up a bit narratively.
However, this season has seen a lot of emotional progress from Oliver. He’s inherently more hopeful. He’s been more TRUTHFUL. The one area Arrow hit the rewind button on a bit is  the kill/no kill vow because they wanted Oliver’s evolution in that department to be a bit more pronounced. This started in Season 4, with Laurel’s death and killing Damien Darhk. In the season where Oliver was trying to live in the light, he chose to kill. Doesn’t necessarily make his choice wrong. Damien Darhk was seriously evil. Nukes = bad news. But it does provide a layer of “grey” in the development of his moral code.
This season, the Big Bad is literally a creation from Oliver killing. That’s intentional. Arrow has often used the kill/no kill philosophy as a metaphor for Oliver’s evolving morality. They stuck him in a squarely grey zone at the beginning of the season because I think they want him to end this year with a much firmer moral code. 
That’s not to say that Oliver will never kill again - because yes there are bad guys who need to be killed. But they specifically echoed the first kill in the pilot. Thea even argued with Oliver over the necessity of killing that man in 5x01. She specifically didn’t join the team because she wasn’t prepared to do “whatever it takes” like Oliver now is (because of Laurel’s death).
Oliver strongly feels that he needs to kill Prometheus - as will Felicity. So, this is going to be a nice push/pull effect on him and part of that process is seeing the effect the “Darkness” is having on his loved ones (Felicity & Diggle). It may ultimately push Oliver to a point where he’s toeing a much brighter line. Different in a way than Season 2, because a moral code is bigger than just killing or not killing. But I think Oliver will reach for the moral high ground in a way he never has before because he HAS to. Those he loves need him to because they are losing their own way.
How different is Talia to Nyssa al Ghul (Katrina Law)?
She’s definitely her own person; she’s not a Nyssa clone, by any stretch. You can definitely sense a familial resemblance. Having Ra’s al Ghul as your dad, it’s likely to forge a very specific kind of person. They’re close enough and different enough that I would love, at some point, to do a story with Nyssa and Talia. I think that would be a lot of fun. 
Just gonna say I am excited about Talia. My Batman adoration demands it.
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Can you talk about how the team will react to Laurel’s return?
I would say they react pretty positively. Obviously, this is wonderful news. We have a very good explanation as to how Laurel returned. The team is, by and large, pretty happy. Bear in mind, there are a few members of the team that didn’t know Laurel, so it’s fun to see their reaction, especially when they learn that time travel played a role in it.
Isn’t it cute when Marc blatantly ignores that the promo department ruined his episode? 
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Again, another misdirect. I think in a similar vein to the “obviously.” It’s not Laurel. It’s Black Siren. Sure, time travel had something to do with it, but it’s not bringing Laurel back. To all those worrying that somehow this is a huge redemption storyline for Black Siren and they are bringing Katie back... 
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Listen... if they wanted Katie on the show they wouldn’t be hiring a new BC. That’s just the ugly truth. Furthermore, they are trying to launch the new BC which gets tricky if Katie is around every few episodes. My bet? They used this guest contract to bridge the gap between LL and the new BC for the comic purists in hopes they could draw them back in. Anywho, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Arrow side of her contract is closing out and they shift her to Legends for a couple guest spots.
What can you tease for Felicity moving forward? She wants revenge on Prometheus over the death of Malone (Tyler Ritter), so how dark will she go and how far will she go to get it?
This is something we went into the season with. At the beginning of every year, we figure out: What do we want to see our characters go through? What are their emotional journeys for the season? We were intrigued by the idea of Felicity flirting with the dark side. The reason I say flirting is Felicity is very much the light of the show; she provides a lot of lightness in what is otherwise a very dark drama. One thing you don’t want to do is you don’t want to tell a story where she suddenly starts becoming this dark element. You don’t want to tell a story where all the reasons why people love the character are gone. It’s this delicate balancing act.
In the wake of Malone’s death, she’s very influenced by her prior four years of watching Oliver and Diggle — and Laurel, Roy (Colton Haynes), and Thea (Willa Holland) for that matter. She’s been watching Team Arrow respond to darkness with what I would describe as moral compromise. What we’ve done is we’ve found a story where Felicity could be tempted by taking moral shortcuts in the name of the greater good, which is very much in keeping with the central dilemma at the heart of the whole show, which is becoming judge, jury, and executioner is the ultimate moral shortcut. She’s not going to become judge, jury, and executioner, she’s not going to become a killer, but we found the Felicity version, or the Felicity equivalent, of making a moral compromise in order to accomplish good.
Many have heard me complain about Arrow’s “Don’t Mess With The Rainbow” mentality when it comes to Felicity and this entire answer makes me feel a lot better. I think it strikes the perfect balance. First, it seems Arrow is recognizing that Felicity has been through a lot (DUH) and they really haven’t allowed her experience the effects of those events on a big level (also duh). It seems they are going there. FINALLY. It’s time. It needs to happen. I am thrilled.
BUT... we don’t need Felicity to be Oliver’s version of dark. Or Diggle’s. Or Laurel’s. Or Thea’s. We need Felicity’s version of dark to be like everything else with this character: Felicity’s darkness should be uniquely HER. 
What struck me, for the first time that I can think of, Marc came out and said “judge, jury and executioner” is wrong. This applies strongly to OTA. Oliver, obviously, has embraced the “judge, jury and executioner” mentality. Diggle, who normally was the moral compass for Oliver, chose to be “judge, jury and executioner” for Andy. Both of these men are morally justified in their actions, but Marc stating flat out that it’s a moral shut cut is extremely telling. They are pushing all the characters, not just Oliver, to be BETTER. To be heroes. Heroes draw the moral line in the sand and they HOLD TO IT. Because at the end of the day, that’s all that separates them from the bad guys and it’s what keeps them from becoming the bad guys. It’s not always easy. In fact, it’s often the much more difficult path, but it’s the right one to take.
It’s why Prometheus is having such a strong impact and why he’s the perfect villain for S5. OLIVER IS THE VILLAIN in his eyes. Oliver needs to come to a place where that perception cannot happen. Where even the bad guys cannot deny he is the light. 
So, it’s essential that Felicity be pushed this darker place too. Where she is judge, jury and executioner. Where she takes moral short cuts. She’s on a hero’s journey as much as Oliver and we need to see Felicity’s moral code tested as well. But it doesn’t have to equal killing. It’ll be Felicity’s version of dark and immoral, which should strike a contrast to Oliver’s. Yes, she is so often the light, but the whole point of pushing Felicity to the dark is so that OLIVER is forced to be the light FOR HER. It’s pushing them both to a place where they absolutely need to go.
Having been through situations like this himself, will Oliver be able to help Felicity navigate this? Or is she pushing everyone away?
I don’t think she’s really pushing everyone away, but she’s definitely on her own path. The best answer to the question is it’s neither one or the other fully. Oliver for sure will be trying to — not help her — but give her some guidance. In episode 12, both Diggle and Felicity, for different reasons, are flirting with some darkness in their lives. Oliver basically, in this really great moment, tells both Felicity and Diggle, “Look, I’m basically a dark dude, I do bad things, but the ship has sailed with me. The whole reason I am aligned with you guys is because you guys are fundamentally just better people, you guys are more moral than I am.” Part of the fun of that episode is seeing how that advice to both Diggle and Felicity operates on them. It’s not necessarily going to operate on them the same way.
I’ve been harping on this concept of Oliver and Felicity walking in each other’s shoes this season. Being able to understand your partner’s perspective, in a real way, is a great catalyst for change. Thus, the shift in roles is absolutely necessary. First, this show is about Oliver Queen. He is destined to become The Green Arrow. He’s suppose to be the light for everyone and that INCLUDES FELICITY. In many ways, Felicity is echoing Oliver’s darker path in S3. It was Felicity who wanted to live life to the fullest and held the line even when Oliver lost his way. She harnessed the light within Oliver and he found his way out of the dark... and back home to her. 
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Now, they are shifting roles in S5. Felicity was always a voice of guidance for Oliver, but Oliver always made his own choices. I believe it will be the same for Felicity. What’s interesting about Marc’s “the ship has sailed” dialogue, is the impact that it will have on Diggle and Felicity. I predict two things: One, Diggle will toe the moral line again more immediately. Felicity will not. Diggle’s darker spiral is ending. Felicity’s is just beginning. 
It’s not going to be enough for Oliver to say, “I’m a dark person. You guys are have always been better than me,” this time. That’s the status quo with Oliver and Felicity. Felicity won’t shift her behavior post 5x12, which will probably lead to whatever deception Oliver discovers in 5x15. It could push Oliver to realize that the status quo has to change. He has to set the example this time. He has to provide the guidance through action, just like Felicity has always done for him. The ship can’t sail for Oliver because that means it will have sailed for FELICITY. I don’t think Oliver can abide by that. 
In the end, of course, Oliver will harness Felicity’s light just like she’s always done for him. She will find her way out of this darker place. My bet is all of this is the foundation for Smoak Technologies and she’ll find a renewed purpose in what she wants to do outside of Team Arrow, just like Oliver has found in being mayor. Seeing the change in Oliver (in action - his hopefulness, his truthfullness, being the light, etc), understanding his darkness on a deeper level because Felicity will recognize her own darkness in herself, maybe even Oliver’s forgiveness for whatever deception there is... this all leads back to one singular concept: Felicity will find her way back home to Oliver in the end. Only this time... he will be the man she’s always deserved. He’ll be ready for her in every way. It feels like they are on opposite paths, but those paths are actually a ying/yang effect. They aren’t separate. They are connected... and it all leads back to one another.
Diggle seems to be facing the consequences of being set up by his C.O. head-on now. What’s next for him?
Coming into the second half of the season, we felt a very strong impulse to basically bring the whole General Walker storyline from the beginning of the year to a conclusion. There’s a reason why we returned Diggle to prison and it’s all to set up what will be a climactic episode. We’ve dedicated basically a whole episode to resolving the General Walker storyline. What’s nice about that episode, that’s episode 12, is that it ties into Oliver’s Russia storyline, it ties into Felicity’s storyline, and it even echoes back to the Diggle storyline with his brother last season. So a lot of threads get tied together and some threads get tied up in that 12th episode.
I know many are frustrated about the lack of OTA and I understand. I’m ready for them to key up more OTA eps too. However, I look at Oliver, Diggle and Felicity as the three main leads. The fact that Arrow’s primary season arc is connected in an obvious way to all three characters gives me a lot of hope for 5B. 5A is always set up (and to a certain extent 4B). I think 5B will finally be the follow through that connectively binds these characters on completing each of their hero’s journey. Oliver isn’t the only one who is going through a five year arc. I think they are preparing to launch Arrow into a new phase come S6. That said, Diggle needs more attention so I’m glad he’ll be getting some. Sounds like 5x12 will be a HUGE OTA episode which is fantastic because it’s such an wonderful call back to one of our favorite OTA episodes of all time... the trip to Russia in 2x06.
What can you tease for the introduction of Tina Boland and what we’ll be seeing for her?
You’ll get a glimpse of her at the end of the midseason premiere. It’s funny, I don’t want to tease too much about her. There’s a lot of stuff that’s out on the internet in terms of casting breakdowns, which I hate talking about because a lot of the casting breakdowns we release are false because we know they leak. But I think we have a really wonderful character here. Juliana [Harkavy], who plays her, is a terrific actress. We’re going to be doing some new and different kinds of things. Because of the internet, I guess I’m very tempted to — as always — I’d prefer to let the story tell itself and play out, and then people can make up their minds.
It’s really interesting that Marc mentioned the leaked sides for Tina again. When they first came out he tried to pretend it was all fake, but of course, this was the casting side that was sent out to all the actresses who were auditioning for Tina. So, it became pretty obvious they weren’t fake. He also tried to pretend the character’s name wasn’t Tina. So, when the character’s name was revealed to be Tina I think many took that as a sign that these “sides” would be actual scenes in Arrow. 
The reason it had so many concerned is because there was a “chemistry” read with, presumably, Oliver. Many concluded Tina will be a love interest. Also, the BC comic history reared its ugly head in combination with a subtle/back burned Olicity and its led to a lot of concern. Here’s why I think it’s interesting that Marc mentioned the sides- if these scenes show up in Arrow it’ll be very easy to point to his interview and say, “Ummm... they aren’t false.” So, I’m feeling pretty confident those exact scenes won’t be in the show. I think his larger point is that some of the assumptions the internet is making about Tina’s character, based on the sides, isn’t necessarily true and we’ll see that when the show plays out.
So, I continue to stand my belief that Tina is not a love interest for Oliver.
We know Oliver is going to end up back on that island. We know Susan Williams (Carly Pope) is investigating Oliver’s ties to Russia. How are those two storylines going to intersect as we head toward the finale this season?
There’s going to be a very cool and awesome payoff to Susan’s investigation of Oliver. That payoff is going to come sooner than you think. In other words, it’s going to come sooner than the season finale.
Susan discussion, yes, but she’s at the end of the article and it’s a blurb at best. Vast improvement promotionally speaking. Marc just flat out told us that Susan’s investigation is going to blow up BEFORE the season finale. IMDB has Carly Pope slated for 5x12, 5x14 and 5x15. Perhaps the investigation blow up is happening around these run of episodes? Especially coinciding with the Bratva focused episode in 5x12? Methinks yes. 
I think some are wondering how Oliver and Felicity can “rebuild” if Susan is still around. This isn’t an either or situation in terms of storyline my friends. It can happen simultaneously and it will happen simultaneously. Think back to Ray and Sara. Oliver and Felicity were very much “building” their relationship (and where it was headed) throughout the full season WHILE they were dating other people. As Oliver and Felicity grew closer, Ray and Felicity fell apart. Sara was slightly different timing wise, but she imploded around the mid season as well, with Oliver finding his way to Felicity in the end. It is possible for Arrow to “rebuild” Olicity while Susan Williams is sharing screen time with Oliver. Susan can be playing a role in that rebuild in her, ultimately, failed relationship with Oliver and what it will teach him. Think of it as multiple lanes of traffic eventually converging into a single lane. Multiple storylines eventually push to one singular end. That’s what is happening this year. That is what happens every year.  ALL ROADS LEAD TO OLICITY.
So don’t fret about when Susan is leaving or when she and Oliver will be done. They will be done. She will leave. It will happen. Understandable if you don’t enjoy the storyline and would rather it be sooner than later, but the end result is still the same.
Psst... did you notice? Not a word about the newbies other than Tina. Nice change in pace! All in all... I am very pumped for the rest of the season!!
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Hi I read your male Talia fics and I was wondering if you could write a part three in the story with more interactions between Talin , Damian and y/n. Also I have to say that I love your writing keep up with the amazing work you do
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Male! Talia al Ghul X Wayne! Reader
Warnings:suggestive content, explicit language, and angst
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Arthur's notes! This version of male! Talia is set before Morrison wrote her. Everything is completely consensual. No drugging whatsoever. Good male! Talia. Also I LOVE writing male! Talia if anyone is interested in more! Maybe a au were male! Talia and Y/N adopt Jason lol.
Also side-note to the anonymous request I'm so glad you love my writing thank you for the encouragement!
Talin returned to his empty house with a, emptier heart. He plans to make a romantic dinner for his future wife, however things get in the way.
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Talin steps in his house in Gotham. He had just returned from his covert mission to ensure Slade was no where near them, luckily he never found him. Unluckily the former assassin, was beyond the point of exhaustion.
He let's a dreadful sigh of the emptiness of the room and the empty bed that awaits him. He craves Y/N's hands to come to his cheeks and her face leaning up to his lips to kiss him. He wants to hear about her day and listen to her beautiful voice.
Talin impatiently calls Y/N.
"Talin. I was just thinking about you.. I've missed you. How are you? How was your outing? Any threats??"
"it was dull, which I suppose is good. I have missed you Beloved. How is our son? How are you?" he asked
He always asked her about his son knowing he could trust her to tell him the truth. He also knows Damian well enough to know he would say he's fine when he's truly not..
"our son misses you and.. So do I... He has been working a lot with school and with the Titans. He's actually with the Titans now. He should be here later tonight. I'm doing better now that I hear your voice. Are you in Gotham already? How are you?"
"I just arrived to my empty house" Talin said slightly bitter
"I could tell Damian you're back and he could come see you when he is done with the team?" she offered, in a playful banter denying to offer for herself to come
"I hope I'm not being too forward.." Talin said in a playfully dramatic tone
"go ahead I won't be able to stop you anyway" she laughs causing Talin to chuckle
"would you like to come? Only if you want to! I wish not ruin your evening nor be a burden"
"no! No!! I mean no you're not burdening me or ruining anything. We're going to be married soon, remember?"
"I can hardly wait" he smiles
"me too. I love you Talin"
"and I love you habibi" he kindly said
Y/N hangs up feeling her cheeks redden with her whole body feeling arousal. Talin smiled to himself. She's coming.
He then panicked realizing it was near dinner and she would definitely like to eat. He ran and instantly looked in the fridge. He prepared her favorite dinner. After which he walks to his bedroom to dress himself....
Talin looks in the bathroom and cursed at how exhausted he looks. Y/N would definitely know he wasn't at his full self and she would likely want him to sleep. Though he wanted to be with her..
He sighed dressing himself in his comfortable black sweatpants. He didn't bother putting on his shirt. He was planning to take a very short nap and hopefully look less like he hasn't slept in 2 days.
Y/N looks in the store for Talin's favorite spiced chocolate. She knew her love was probably making them dinner right now.
Talin's eyes were closed for longer than he intended. Perhaps it was for the reason, he didn't want to wake up because he was dreaming of her.
She was kissing him as he loved her with all of his heart poured out. With his heart full of passion which poured into her. It changes to dread.. As then they were no longer in bliss but fighting as she wore her H/N uniform and he wore his uniform. Both were in sync as they were fighting off Slade's soldiers. Then.. He began to cry out as he heard gunfire.
Y/N knocked on the door to his safe-house. He didn't answer. She assumed he was busy doing something with dinner he couldn't step away from. So she let herself in shutting the door behind her.
Her heart warms smelling the delicious food awaiting for her. She steps to the kitchen putting his chocolate on the counter. She gasps seeing the table set. The candles were not yet to be lit, there was a bottle of wine and two plates made with lids on top. She lifts one lid seeing her favorite meal. She was completely flattered putting the lid back on.
"Talin?" she called out.. "Talin?!" she said louder
She made her way throughout the house unable to find him. She then goes to the one place she hasn't checked. His bedroom.
She finds Talin shivering in his throat muttering.. Her name. She realized then as tears seep through his eyelids.. He's having a nightmare.
Y/N quickly moved closer to him "Talin!.. Talin! I'm right here wake up Honey.. Wake up!"
Hearing her voice quickly awakens him. He opened his shaking eyes blinking repeatedly, as he tried to return to reality. She is here, she's alive, she's safe... She's OK. He takes a deep breath. She gently touched his arm. He sighed heavily drying his tears.
"forgive me I did not mean to cause you worry.. It only happens when I am lacking in sleep" he tried to shrug off his anxiety
She gently rubbed his arm "it's OK" she ensures him and then sweetly kisses him "how long?"
"at least over 48 hours, I suppose.. I must have lost track a few hours ago" he scoffed
"Talin! You are truly no better than my brother.. Try to fall back asleep my love" she pleads kissing his face
"no! I can't" he sits up taking her hands into his, own "not after you've come all this way. I want you to enjoy your dinner. Don't worry about me I've slept all I need.. I'm fine"
"you are lying to me Talin but I would like to enjoy the food you've prepared for me and I know you are too stubborn to let me do anything out of the sort.. But after that promise me you will sleep"
"I promise" he smiled softly
"and put on a, damn shirt it's freezing in here!" she demanded flustered as she shoves him
Talin smirked watching her cheeks reddening. He slowly puts on his shirt. She rolled her eyes as he softly laughs. The two held hands as they walked to the table to enjoy dinner with each other.
As they sat together enjoying their food. They enjoyed talking until they both finished. He holds her hand looking at her with a saddening smile. His nightmare still haunting his heart.
"are you ok?" she softly said
He smiled genuinely "better with you here with me.. I would very much love for you to stay"
"I would very much love to be with you"
Talin kisses her temple with his hands on her cheeks. He stands from his seat and takes her hands. She stands with him and kisses him. It gave him much comfort to know this moment was, real.
Talin woke with his anxiety melted and his heart warm. She was sleeping so peacefully, he couldn't bring himself to wake her up. He kisses her sweet lips and moved more of the blanket onto her. She stirs softly and grabbed his arm groaning.
"hold me.."
"ok" he chuckles
He moved closer to her holding her in his arms. After enjoying each other's comfort she departs to take a shower. Talin joined her, but did not stay the entire time as he planned to start breakfast
Talin gives her a kind hug before leaving. He dresses himself in his dark green sweatpants and departs for the kitchen. He began to cook mloukhieh a favorite of hers when she was pregnant with Damian.
He hears a security notification on his phone and looks
"shit"
"Baba I'm here!" Damian said letting himself in and shuts the door behind him
"dammit" he mumbled.. "hey Dami I'm in the kitchen!" he announced hoping Y/N was out of the shower and had heard them
As his son came into the kitchen he smells his father cooking mloukhieh.
"my favorite" he softly smiled
As father and son greet Y/N enters the room unaware of her son's presence. Talin quickly covered Damian's eyes before he could see his mom. She screamed out in embarrassment as she unfortunately was only wearing her robe and her brawl that was, definitely showing. She runs back into the bedroom
"sorry son!!" she shouted from the bedroom
"it's fine Mom" Damian scoffed lowering his Baba's hand
"want some mloukhieh?" he offered his son
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