#michael kahale

[aroaceleovaldez]

why are PJO characters most consistently measured in scales of Michaels?

Like. this is some of the most specific height information we have out of most characters, besides maybe Percy being an inch shorter than Jason. The Michaels Scale...

#pjo #riordanverse #nico di angelo #michael kahale #michael yew #clarisse la rue #this is some of the most specific numbers we get #also for the record i did the math and inferring based on multiple factors #(average height of a 13 year old boy / average height in 1930s italy) #so implications are: a.) Nico is absolutely never gonna break 5'6''. he is probably 5'2'' at best in HoO #and b.) presuming that. the math does add up that in comparison Michael Kahale is about 5'8'' which would put him at ~50lb heavier than Nic #with the *generous* estimate that Nico is like 120lb. which is average for 5'2'' #but knowing that Nico weighs like. Nothing. he is Skin and Bones. lets guesstimate that Nico is 120 soaking wet. hes probably closer to 110 #i do too much math for these books. anyways enjoy that. wiki i want the heights updated with sources on my desk by tomorrow /j

[octag0n-l0v3r]

Massive Camp Jupiter shitpost bc I was very bored.

#octavian hoo #octkahale #:3 #octavian pjo #pjo octavian #michael kahale #jason grace #reyna avila ramirez arellano #camp jupiter #new rome #pjo #pjo hoo toa #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #jeyna #so silly of me #shitpost #silly #sillyposting

[asleepinglaurel]

After the battle with Gaea

michael kahale: I’ve had… a day… Reyna, rubbing her eyes: What’d you see? Michael: Well, I saw Octavian accidentally commit suicide… and I saw Nico get flirted with, on the battlefield. Frank: He didn’t (cackling) Michael: A Greek son of Apollo. Reyna: Welp, time to round up the 7 for the most terrifying shovel talk.

#Michael kahale #reyna ramirez arellano #rara #frank zhang #apollo #solangelo #nico pjo #nico di angelo #will solace pjo #the seven pjo

[zazzander]

I wasn't super convinced by the Michael Kahale was the traitor theory but now I'm reading the scene again... I'm starting to really see it.

Not only did Octavian not make the order but no one in the legion was following his orders at that point!!

Michael Kahale was the traitor 🤯🤯🤯

#octavian hoo #octavian pjo #heroes of olympus #michael kahale #pjo hoo toa #camp jupiter #blood of olympus

[drewtanakagf]

So i was scrolling through the drew tanaka tag as one does and found this post by @curseofdelos that i was like !!!!! about, and i read through it and I was like. Yes, but also… 

So this is my also. I suggest reading the post first as it does very well in explaining the issues with Piper and Drew’s writing and why that’s harmful. 

But I’d like to take it a step further and extrapolate to the bigger picture of cabin 10. 

What about the boys? 

TL;DR: There are a lot of in-text and meta negotiations of masculinity versus femininity that occur in /influence PJO/HOO, and that leaves boys in the Aphrodite Cabin in an awkward limbo. 

Before we get into the nitty gritty, I first want to establish that masculinity is not femininity. Which like, duh, but that means that anything that is not masculine can and will be considered feminine. Point blank, no nuance (There is a literature backing, but I think its a bit too much, so I’ll just put it at the end if you wanna find the article I’m referring to). 

And that’s what Rick is operating on, while you can’t deny it is a spectrum, at the time of writing TLH and such, there was a general societal understanding of masculinity as being macho and strong and rejecting softness for hardcore or whatever. And this positioning is where femininity comes in, and where we can begin to talk about Cabin 10. 

Rick writes Cabin 10 as inherently feminine, thus attaching “beauty” to this narrow idea; best shown through describing the cabin as a Barbie house and Piper's claiming ordeal. It is a place where there is nothing “masculine,” leading to the stereotype of Aphrodite kids not being able to fight, since war is masculine and thus out of their purview. 

This does deconstruct with Silena and then Piper, but the existence of Drew proves that it is still upheld and important enough to the story. 

I do believe that Rick tried to have his “oh you can still be feminine without being hyper feminine!” moment with Piper & Drew’s conflict, however, he failed to give Drew enough agency to make it seem like there was a genuine conflict rather than just “mean girl v girl-next-door.” (again, @curseofdelos explained it very well, go read!). 

Now with the girls out of the way, the boys are kinda… lost in the sauce? The only Aphrodite boy we get is Mitchell and it is very telling that a lot of people hc him as gay… which again is the posturing of masculinity vs femininity and whatever is not masculine is therefore feminine. And being gay is being attracted to masculinity and this feminine etc etc (according to societal norms). The fact that he is the only male Aphrodite kid rep is again, telling and really affirms the inherent femininity of Cabin 10. 

“Hey! He’s not the only ‘Aphrodite’ Kid! What about Michael!” And Michael just further proves my point! He’s the son of Venus, and Roman counterparts are considered as more “warlike” than their Greek ones. War being considered masculine and a rejection of femininity, as established earlier w/ Cabin 10 kids not being warriors. Now, Micheal exists as a (hyper) masculine counterpoint to Drew’s (hyper) feminine, making the Roman Venus a direct opposite as the Greek Aphrodite. 

This is actually, kinda commendable in terms of plot, since it helps reinforce the differences between Greek and Roman and how extreme they were. Great storytelling device, bad everything else. 

One more thing I want to touch on is the vilification of femininity, and why it must be rejected in the pjo/hoo. You can only fight if you adopt masculine traits, and therefore not fighting and still surviving means that you are doing something dishonorable like, abusing charmspeak (Drew) or using magic (Circe, Medea, etc) or even spying (Silena). Which is a very masculine idea, of how things should be solved by violence ( i mean, look at violence perpetrated by men compared to women in our society…) I think I’ve said this before, but in Piper’s arc, there needs to be an antagonist to prove how she doesn’t “fit in” at CHB, and create that tension of her either choosing to save her father and betray or continue the quest as is; and that antagonist ended up being Drew, and that makes sense bc Cabin 10 is against what Piper is characterized as, and she just is a rejection of that femininity. 

Anyways, let me not get away from myself. Basically, within the story, there is no real opportunity for the characters to reject gender stereotypes without falling into others. And Rick wrote himself into that hole. 

Literature Referenced: Shippers, Mimi. “Masculinity and Femininity, Theories of.” The Wiley Blackwell Encyclopedia of Gender and Sexuality Studies, 2016. Edited by Nancy A. Naples. John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

#and again within the context of the cabin 10/aphrodite/venus #drew tanaka #michael kahale #riordanverse #pjo #hoo #pjo meta #piper mclean #while id love to talk more ab clarrise and her gender identity (talking strictly w/ how she negotiate gender roles) #I just don't have the wherewithal....

[nepobabyeurydice]

Social Media for all the Rich/Famous Campers

Piper – Dedicated followers, posts photos of her dad's movie sets because she loves seeing the comments, socials are full of Cherokee and Greek news that always has her followers scratching her head. She's done 2 interviews in her life. Once for Jake Steel in which she asked why anyone cared about this movie since there were far better documentaries on the atrocities the American Government committed and the other for Tristan's comeback film focusing on the Cherokee story that she cried when giving.

Will – Photos of Nico, photos of his mom, photos of Austin and Kayla. His followers don't realise his Mom is Naomi Solace until they scroll past the summer worth of photos.

Rachel – Activism upon activism. She draws furry porn for free because her social media manager hates it. Sometimes she drops prophecies in her art account and people go crazy theorizing, but she's under a pseudonym.

Michael Kahale – He does thirst traps for fun and everyone goes horny over him but he deletes his account and opens a new one every few days and it becomes a game to find him.

Thalia - Has a tumblr account that she opened after years to simply post a photo of her pine tree with I live bitch and then deactivated it.

Jason - Famous because he's Piper's boyfriend and is seen with her on sets. Sometimes spotted in the background of Rachel and Will's photos and people have theories on how they know each other. People think his name is Jason Cesario, and he can speak surprisingly good Spanish with a Puerto Rican-Mexican accent that always has Leo and Reyna grimacing at the dialect mash. His socials are just pictures of ancient statues (statues he, Nyssa and Annabeth played around with for the new temples) and Piper and Leo with the occasional photo from mid-flight.

#heroes of olympus #jason grace #piper mclean #will solace #michael kahale #rachel elizabeth dare

[devils-little-sista]

Nico and Michael were checking each other out and eye fucking every time they interacted in Blood of Olympus and they should have been the IT couple instead of Solangelo and I will die on this hill

#Nico di Angelo #Michael Kahale #Mico #I still don’t know for sure what their ship name is #if they even have one #there are only three five on ao3 and I am mad about it #I need to write about them. I need to WRITE #anti Solangelo #Blood of Olympus #Heroes of Olympus

[blagam0nie]

I wish I did it in Digital 🥲

Yesterday reread "Blood of Olympus" and I just wanted to say

<<<the scene when Tavi is Talking with Michael just slay❤️❤️❤️

Like, you go girl even if it's way straight to hell.

#riordanverse #octavian hoo #pjo #heroes of olympus #octavian pjo #percy jackson #michael kahale #pjo fanart #hoo fanart #drawing

[irishskeptic]

The three Michaels of the Riordanverse:

Michael Yew

Michael Kahale

And Michael Varus

#michael yew #michael kahale #Michael Varus #percy jackson #percy jackson and the olympians #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #pjo #pjo fandom #hoo #hoo fandom #riordanverse #misc skeptic thoughts

[yonemurishiroku]

Irony how Nico and Michael Kahale are, in a way, both betrayals, whose amends later actually contributed greatly to the downfall of a main antagonist.

#nico di angelo #michael kahale #pjo #hoo #toa #yone rambling #percy jackson and the olympians #heroes of olympus #trials of apollo

[stillcarmine]

rb’s are appreciated!

#this joke has been driving me crazy and I want to make it everyone’s problem #leo valdez #jason grace #nico di angelo #frank zhang #percy jackson #michael kahale #valgrace #valdangelo #valzhang #valson #hoo #heroes of olympus #polls #percy jackson polls #pjo #percy jackson and the olympians

[ao3screenshotss]

(context: the romans think luke is zeus)

#considering the fact that i spelt luke as leus twice they might have a point #also this is very long oops #title: #Descendants of Olympus #author: #CaffeinatedFlumadiddle #ao3 #ao3 funny #percy jackon and the olympians #luke castellan #zeus #octavian #jason grace #annabeth chase #percy jackson #michael kahale #julius

[octag0n-l0v3r]

Part 3!

#octavian hoo #pjo octavian #michael kahale #reyna avila ramirez arellano #jason grace #octkahale #percy jackson #camp jupiter #camp half blood #pjo hoo toa #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus

[cupioriot]

idea has been floating around in my head of Octavian praying to Venus for some reason or another, and seeing some manifestation of her when she aswers, and he js sorta offhandedly thinks "wow yeah Kahale takes after her a lot" and then Realizing

#damien shut up challenge #octkahale #octavian hoo #michael kahale #riordanverse

[drewtanakagf]

five practitioners of guilt

☆ michael kahale and drew tanaka navigate grief

If there is one thing Michael Kahale knows, it is loss. Loss has forced its hand into his over and over in his meager eighteen, almost nineteen years of living. Its hands are cold, unforgiving, yet familiar. When Colin tells him that the gold streak was Octavian, Loss worms its way into his embrace once again.

Malcolm Pace hosts group sessions for those racked by grief and guilt.

words: 4097

#riordanverse #hoo #heroes of olympus #drew tanaka #michael kahale #cabin 10 #✍🏾 time #connor stoll #malcolm pace #octavian #in honor of me hitting 100 followers... here's a fic i've been working on for the past year LMAO!

[f0xgl0v3]

Brief Michael Kahale questions,

In SoN I we’re told that Centurions have to serve at least 5 years as a legionnaire before becoming a Centurion

And we Know that Michael Kahale was a linebacker in highschool, meaning more importantly that he went to highschool. But, like-

Michael is strongly implied to also be a teenager- I don’t like the idea of a like 23 year old Michael running around with a lot of 16 year olds and being close friends with 18 year old Octavian; and it strongly is implied that he is of similar age of Octavian.

But he went to highschool. And like- it at least feels like he had a year or two of highschool, enough to be recognizable in his linebacker situation and as a demigod to be scouted by Octavian’s father,

Which like, if we go 18 year old Michael kahale- or even 19 year old Michael Kahale at the oldest (though I always like making him 17, this is my own hc and I will not be including it) Anyway- if we go 19 Michael, he’d have to join the legion at 14; which, not impossible, some kids will be entering freshman year as 14 year olds, but- like- WHAT??

It feels, wrong to say it was fresh faced little baby Michael; Reyna makes it feel like he is newer to the legion, and that most of his bulk was Linebacker stuff.

But that implies that he ALSO broke the 5 year rule, that were told is super duper important and is rare to be broken- but really it feels like a lot of people broke it.

Frank obviously did, it’s an improtant plot point. I don’t think we get confirmation that Praetor’s also have this rule, but I feel like they do- and in that case then Percy and maybe Reyna both break that, then now Michael Kahale. Really it feels like no one really cares about this rule if we have this many examples of named characters that don’t follow this rule- not including any side characters were given that would make sense (very thankful that they did not hand over Dakota’s tattoo details so we could reasonably say that he got to the legion at 11 like Octavian, and actually properly followed the explicitly said rules about ranks) Also Hazel! She was at least at the camp for a year before HoO I think, and then only what, another year passes for ToA, she, at the most- could have around 3 years of service and I am only going off of memory here-

Literally no one cares about this 5 year rule unless we imply that 23 year old Kahale is running around and that makes me uncomfortable!

Anyway I’m gonna go to sleep now because I have to go to school tomorrow, good night- if anyone has any actual good explanation for this other than the continuous lack of characterization and attention paid to Camp Jupiter and the concepts presented in Camp Jupiter; I’d love to hear it

#pjo hoo toa #idk how to tag this #camp jupiter #kind of a rant #hoo #michael kahale #this irritates me to no end #i’m very sleepy