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bloodyshadow1 · 3 days

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something that has bothered me for years in the Percy Jackson fandom is how often 'fans' have to tear down Percy to make other characters look better. This happens a lot with the seven (mostly Leo and Jason, though I've seen Piperbeth shippers bashing Percy for Piper), I think readers view Percy and to a lesser extent Annabeth as spotlight hogs as they had a whole nother 5 book series as main characters. But it gets the worst with Nico, who is the fandom's favorite character (or at least was when heroes of olympus and the original pjo were coming out and I can assume he still is)

I like Nico, he has cool powers, he's a little shit, goth kid, and he's the series first gay character. I get why he's the fandom's baby boy. But you don't have to tear down Percy to like him. To this day I still see arguments about how Percy sucks because he did x to Nico, without anything else in canon for why Percy acted the way he did. Percy and Nico have a long and complicated relationship, neither is the bad guy. It sucks being a fan of both characters when there are people in the fandom who need to tear down Percy to put Nico on a pedestal. And yes, it has died down a bit since I was in the fandom years ago, but it's still there, and I'm worried with the live action show not being a bomb, it's gonna start right back up again if they get a third season.

I just needed to get this off my chest because I love both characters, Percy is probably my second favorite and Nico is def in the top 5. I just sucks when you see posts bashing one of your favorites to boost up one of your other favorites.

#percy jackson #nico di angelo #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo #heroes of olympus #hoo #pjo meta #hoo meta

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flum3n · 4 months

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shoutout to dior goodjohn's scream of anguish when percy broke clarisse's spear in 1x02. it was so striking from a character who has otherwise been very cold and controlled. she made it instantly clear that the spear was something special to her and the knowledge that it was a gift from her father places a whole new perspective on her bullying. she too, like luke, is pursuing her own form of ruthless glory. and she, like percy, is a child suffering from her father's neglect, desperate for recognition. a tiny moment but very impactful.

#clarisse la rue #dior goodjohn #pjo disney+#pjo #percy jackson and the olympians #pjo meta #not poetry #pjo tv show #pjo series #percy jackson disney+#percy jackson

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guardianspirits13 · 4 months

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Ok. I’m still trying to gather my thoughts and settle my hyperfixation after episode 3 of the Percy Jackson show, but one of my conclusions is that this is one of very few adaptations that actually understands the term ‘adaptation’ and furthermore what makes one successful.

On a fundamental level, understanding and respecting the source material is a must. You need to not just know the bullet points of the story, but you need to know the ‘why’s’- why does this story need to be heard, why do people like it, why does it stand out from the others in it’s genre, etc.

Second, you need to deconstruct the source material and piece it back together in a way that makes sense for the new format. Copy-pasting almost never works, since there will inevitably be discrepancies between the readers’ imagination and the adaptation that can distract from immersion.

Third, you need to provide something new. Why does this story deserve to be told in a different format? What can this add to the original themes of a story? What can we change to make the message come across more on screen? Will this dialogue really be as funny when it’s said out loud?

We’ve seen a lot of terrible “adaptations” of animation and books and musicals into movies/tv shows, and I think even among the better ones there is a dissonance between the desire to stay faithful to the source and the desire to make a good adaptation, with whatever changes that may necessitate.

I think while we’ve watched the casting of this series, the hints here and there, and final the premiere with bated breath, they’ve been playing the long game. They cast Walker as Percy before he was in the Adam Project. Many people expressed…unsavory…feelings when Leah was cast as Annabeth, but those of us that trusted the team behind this project- including the author himself- did our best to welcome her and were repaid tenfold with her performance in this episode particularly.

Most of the scenes in this episode were not at all how I imagined them in the book, but I adored it. They took what they were given and expanded on it. They created a mini-arc for the trio learning to trust each other. They gave Medusa a labyrinthine lair. Annabeth is a 12 year old walking into a convenience store for the first time in 6+ years with $200 in her pocket, of course she’s gonna buy as much as she can carry.

The love and care and artistry that went into this single episode brings me so much joy and gives me so much hope. Like I was already excited for a faithful adaptation, but seeing these characters come to life on screen, once you see their chemistry with each other and how they speak and push and pull at each other’s emotions, it has never been more clear to me the amount of care and foresight that went into this show.

Rick said that these kids are the characters he created and for like 2 years I’ve trusted that that was true, but today it was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt.

I am just…in awe.

#nothing but praise here #pjo #percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson and the olympians #pjo episode 3 #pjo tv #pjo tv show #adaptation #pjo meta #walker scobell #leah sava jeffries #rick riordan #percy jackson #jess’s thoughts

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helpallthenamesaretakenblog · 1 month

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walker really wasn't lying when he said that percy was a double edged sword and every side of him had an opposite side too. there are times percy acts very slow, and some times he is the most brilliant strategist in the series. there are times when he cannot understand the other persons feelings, but there are times when he is the most emotionally intelligent character ever (like when he figured out the core dynamics of the legion members by one session and he was the only one in cotg to not lose his maturity when he turned seven). there are times when hes a humble and nice person, but there are times when he lashes out out of short temper. there are times when there are also times when he's acts like a giggly teenage girl dreaming about his kids, and there are also times when he's the most pessimistic bitter person with the whole 'im going to die in a few days, so what?' attitude. percy jackson really is a double edged sword

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catre33 · 4 months

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that scene in I Become Supreme Lord of the Bathroom where it cuts from Luke to show Percy flossing and doing a bunch of other random crap is the most accurate representation of ADHD to ever exist

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fantastic-nonsense · 4 months

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I think people who genuinely wanted Percy to rebel against the gods and overthrow the system kind of...miss the whole point of the series

The question is not whether or not the gods deserve to rule; the books are kind of unambiguous that they don't! That the gods are generally undeserving of their children's loyalty is the one thing that Percy and Luke both agree on! But PJO is less about divine right to rule vs. ruling via consent of the governed and more about improving dysfunctional family systems. It's not about whether unfair rulers deserve to continue ruling; it's about forcing the gods to be better, fairer rulers and a better, fairer family given limited alternatives.

Because what are the alternatives, as presented to us within the scope of the original PJO series?

Option 1: allow Kronos to topple Olympus and take over. Clearly not a viable alternative for all of the reasons the books show us.

Option 2: the demigods overthrow the Olympians and rule the world themselves. Okay. How's that going to work out long-term, given demigods are mortal and cannot control or protect their parents' domains? Demigods will die out within a generation or two, so that's potentially a one-generation short-term solution, and then everyone's right back where they started. Except worse, because now the world has been out of divine balance for a century and the gods have a completely legitimate bone to pick with all demigods. Materially worse outcome.

Option 3: demigods ignore the gods and their will entirely. They integrate into the mortal world, refuse to participate in quests or talk to their parents, and pretend prophecies don't exist. Except that's clearly not a viable option, since we see that demigods usually can't safely exist in the mortal world without monsters coming after them, the gods are cruel enough to use blackmail and engage in hostage situations to get demigods to act as heroes, and prophecies have a way of coming true regardless of everyone's best attempts to circumvent them. Again: materially worse outcome.

And for Percy, for the demigods at Camp Half-Blood, for Luke and for everyone else who defected....for the most part, they don't actually have an inherent problem with the gods ruling them. They just want to be acknowledged, valued, and loved by their families, to be treated as more than a tool for their parents to wield whenever their services are needed. That was the core thesis of the demigod rebellion, which was wholly separate from Kronos' specific motivations for overthrowing the Olympians, and it's why Percy's asks at the end of TLO were what they were.

The point was always that had Percy grown up in a slightly more dysfunctional family environment...had he grown up with Frederick Chase's seemingly conditional love or May Castellan's madness instead of Sally Jackson's steady, quiet, unconditional love...he could have turned out like Luke. Like Ethan. Like the dozens of demigods who defected from camp to join Luke's cause. Percy could have turned out just as a bitter and angry and vengeful. Just as ready to tear down the system. Just as willing to betray and kill his own family for the sake of making a point.

But instead, Percy openly reprimands the gods for abandoning their families and using them as cannon fodder in their own petty disagreements. He forces them to acknowledge and claim their children. He demands that everyone who is part of the godly family be recognized and accepted, not just those related to the Twelve Olympians. He asks for those unjustly punished (like Calypso) to be set free and accepted back into the family. Because that's the point at the end of the day: not forcing bad rulers to step down, but changing an insanely dysfunctional family system that the gods and demigods are all members of into a better, safer, and more accepting environment for demigods to grow up and live in.

Overthrowing the gods wouldn't solve the problem at the heart of the series, which is the gods' shitty parenting and family management skills. It would only exacerbate the massive familial fault-lines that Kronos exploited and leave the demigods open to more godly manipulation. Which is why the series ends as it does, with Percy using his wish to tangibly improve the lives of his family instead of selfishly improving his own life (via accepting immortality/godhood) or overthrowing the gods. Because the conflict isn't about the gods as rulers. It's about the gods as parents.

PJO's core thesis is Percy, who grew up knowing unconditional familial love, looking at this whole world of children who didn't and saying "that's not fair. Gods should be better than this!" But instead of destroying them the way Luke wants to, instead of overthrowing them and putting himself on the throne, he instead challenges them to be better parents and family members. To be part of the solution instead of the problem. And Percy's demands don't solve everything, but they were necessary first steps! Without forcing the gods to acknowledge a bare minimum floor of inclusion, the cycle would simply begin all over again the next time a major conflict popped up.

So that's the problem Percy solves and how he successfully fulfills the prophecy: by believing that the gods had the capacity to change and forcing them to break the cycle of familial abandonment, he preserves Olympus and takes the first steps towards a new status quo, one that is objectively better for demigods than the one he grew up in. That's why he succeeds, and it's why Percy overthrowing the gods would have made for a much less satisfying ending than what actually happened.

#pjo #pjo meta #percy jackson #luke castellan #ethan nakamura #annabeth chase #long post #pjo tv #wow it's been awhile since I've written proper pjo meta lmfao

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hermesmyplatonicbeloved · 3 months

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Can someone do an analysis on why Percy asked "do you dream about mom" instead of "wanna come home with me to mom" like in the books?

#Poseidon #percy jackson #pjo #percy jackson and the olympians #rick riordan #percy #poseidon #percy jackon and the olympians #sally jackson #posally #posally nation #pjo meta #pjo tv show #pjo tv series #pjo tv spoilers #pjo tv adaptation

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kaleb-is-definitely-sane · 4 months

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Okay so like has anyone written an analysis on Percy Jackson’s relationship with his own fears and just fear itself??? Because it is like genuinely interesting how offended he is at being hinted at the being a coward and yet how deep down one of his greatest fears seems to be that he is just this scared, little kid that wants to hide and run into the arms of his mom. If someone’s talked about this before please show me because i find this incredibly fascinating.

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siriusblack-the-third · 1 year

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The one word that best fits Percy, Annabeth thinks, is Gentle. And it is entirely by design.

Percy grew up hated by his stepfather, hated by his schoolmates and teachers and tutors. He grew up with the words "delinquent", "stupid", "troublemaker" thrown at him, stinging his heart at first and then sliding ineffectually off his back over the years. Annabeth has seen him at his worst, and she knows that it is not in Percy's nature to be gentle. He's a hurricane.

It's in everything he does.

His eyes shift and change with the tides, with his emotions, from happy to angry to sad to exhausted to smug all within moments of each other. Sometimes, she catches a glimpse of something Other, something that makes him look cruel and heartless in the worst yet most beautiful of ways. The first time she had seen that look was when he had packed up the head of Medusa to send it to the Gods.

(It had scared her, then. Now any reminder of it makes her laugh.)

He holds himself in a way that says fuck around and find out, in a way that says he's the most dangerous person on this planet and he knows it, in a way that makes you stop and look and then stamp down the urge to take a few steps back. His back is always straight and his shoulders are always pulled back, but he always looks relaxed. His head is always a little low, reminiscent of the way a bull lowers its head when it's going to charge. His hands are always in his pockets, fiddling with a pen that has been with him since he was twelve. People scatter out of his way like getting within ten feet of him would get them killed.

(They're not wrong.)

Annabeth can only describe his fighting as chaotic. He is a literal whirlwind, movements fluid and unpredictable, sword slashing through the air with such speed that it's almost invisible. He's terrifying and beautiful and mesmerizing when he wages war, all sharp edges and ruthless strikes placed right where it would take his opponent down the fastest. Sometimes when he feels particularly violent, his hits are non lethal yet painful, making his opponent cry and scream, making him grin with teeth too sharp and eyes too bright.

And yet.

Gentle is the best word Annabeth can think of to describe Percy.

Percy, who cradles her face oh so carefully when he kisses her softly and slowly, just the way she likes when a nightmare wakes her up. Percy, who curls up into a ball next to her and buried his head into her stomach to hide from the terrors in his own dreams. Percy, who looks at his sister with the most adoring look Annabeth has ever seen on his face, who smiles at his mother with that spark of awe in his eyes like he still can't believe he got such a wonderful mother, who is patient and caring with every camper that asks him to help.

She can only think of gentle.

Gentle, because Percy likes to be reminded of the good things in the world. Gentle, because Percy works towards being so despite it not being a natural part of him. Gentle, because after years of war and bloodshed and battle and violence, they have made it to peace. Peace, where they can afford to make the choice to be gentle.

Percy is a Hurricane. Percy is Gentle.

Annabeth loves all of him.

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gutsybitsies · 1 year

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"Why do characters like and trust Percy so much but when Nico-"

Pretty privilege and charisma can get you anywhere. Percy has boatloads of both and Nico is a traumatized autistic kid who spends more time with dead people than living ones and then gets even more traumatized after his Tartarus stint and being trapped in a jar.

Meanwhile Percy has the eyes of a shonen manga hero and the powers of Nakama-hood. Shake hands with him and oh no now you're a side character in a shonen manga about to find the One Piece with him or join him in getting your team to Nationals. He arrives in Camp Jupiter with an "I'M SUSPICIOUS" sign taped on his forehead and is able to immediately roll a Nat 20 with +10 charisma modifier to gain friends in an enemy camp.

Before HOH Nico had 0 mortal/livings friends other than his literal sister before Percy and him came to a truce (sdfsd this means jason was his second human friend ever dont mind me these aren't tears).

But also that's probably why Nico does well with deities and other immortals because they dont care about social norms and they see past his -5 charisma stat

#percy jackson #nico di angelo #pjo #hoo #heroes of olympus #pjo meta

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incorrectquotesofmylife · 2 months

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Percy: Did-...did you just flirt with me?

Annabeth: ......no

Grover: YES! SHE WAS!

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disregardcanon · 2 months

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camp halfblood as an origin story for kids with adhd and starting out as a place with no grownups because no halfbloods survived to adulthood (no adult diagnoses) but then we get into the roman camp and have this whole city of new rome with a FUTURE for kids like them and wholeass adults who are what they are and live long enough to become adults. and whether or not that was an intentional thing it means a lot to me and i'm sure finding that idea through the writing process meant a lot of growth for rick and his sons too

#pjo #pjo meta

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flum3n · 3 months

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we were a tiny bit robbed of a lotus casino montage. i wanted annabeth obsessively designing a house in the sims whilst grover shouted "DIE HUMANS" as an anthropomorphised deer in vr. y'know, as the scripture foretold.

#this was sweet!!! i just wanted some chaos #pjo #pjo tv show #pjo meta #annabeth chase #grover underwood #percy jackson and the olympians #percy jackson disney+#percy jackson

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guardianspirits13 · 4 months

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I was getting so so ready to say “ok this is just another exposition episode to expand on the lore” and then thE FUCKING SWORD SWAP THING HAPPENED?? PERSEUS JACKSON YOU’RE GONNA CATCH THESE HANDS AND THEY’RE GONNA DRAG YOU TO THERAPY SO HELP ME POSEIDON-

anyways pjo ep 4 thougts in summary:

- sassy grover

-lore drop!

-foofy

-i think the lack of percy’s pov is making the exposition feel a little more stunted

-percy’s self-worth issues started waaaay before…whenever i first noticed them before? I guess they’ve always been there but now they are crystal clear as day

-“thalia made me earn it” unironically love how they’re characterizing thalia!! like that makes so much sense for her to be so closed off after losing jason (the first time) and dealing with her shitty mom, the only kind of love she knows is the conditional kind. she had to earn her mom’s love so now annabeth has to earn hers.

-baby percy. baby percy baby percy. my tiny son.

-fucking LOVE that Percy’s fear of drowning has made its way into this story, like he distrusts water like he distrusts his dad and over time he will become more comfortable with both im cryingggg

-‘baby monster’ implies that either there are multiple chimeras, or that every generation it has to relearn how to hunt

-even without a monster following me i would NEVER get into that Arch elevator that thing looks like a death trap. Really giving me oceangate vibes (･_･;)

-never thought percy jackson of all characters would be my pathetic sad wet cat boy but here we are

anyways not the most exciting episode but the best moments are things i would have sold my soul to see 5 years ago so it evens out

#pjo tv #percy jackson #percy jackson and the olympians #percabeth #pjo disney+#pjo show #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo meta #pjo episode 4 #jess’s thoughts #annabeth chase #grover underwood

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helpallthenamesaretakenblog · 1 month

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Never going to let y'all forget that annabeth is so slay she pulled a minor godling in ttc

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catre33 · 4 months

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the fact that Percy Jackson as an individual has just chugged gallons of respect women juice throughout his lifetime

Literal gallons

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