#for janeway voyager has become her home

[isagrimorie]

Voyager is our Home.

#b'elenna torres #startrekedit #tom paris #naomi wildman #seven of nine #voyageredit #star trek edit #kathryn janeway #harry kim #star trek voyager #voyager is home #and it gives me so many feelings #that upon returning to the alpha quadrant #the voyager family was broken up #for tom and b'elenna uss voyager is their home #its where they got to have their second chance #and away from the long shadow of their family #for naomi and seven they don't know anywhere else #for janeway voyager has become her home #blood and sweat and tears #voyager is home and voyager is her #my edit #harry's desire for alpha quadrant and home #has never wavered #star trek picard #picard s3 #and its sad that upon returning home #starfleet broke up the crew

[stra-tek]

Random spoilerific reasons to read Star Trek novels, with little to no context:

Ro/Quark is a thing

A Jem'Hadar joins DS9, tries to fit in but eventually snaps and tries to kill everybody

You learn the origins and final fate of the Borg

A thinly-veiled Dr. House clone joins the Voyager crew

Geordi briefly has 2 girlfriends at once (due to different writers not co-ordinating enough, but still)

There's a TOS book that's a musical

There are YA stories about Jake and Nog making mischief on DS9

YA stories about Worf, Geordi, Picard, Beverly, Kirk, Spock and McCoy at SFA

YA series about the Kelvinverse gang (including Gaila!) as cadets, taking on a drug problem at SFA and a very unique Borg scout in San Francisco

We very briefly meet the people who are to Q what the Q are to humanity

Janeway/Chakotay is a thing

Kirk's first mission in command of the Enterprise! Erm, at least twice.

Kirk was married between TOS and TMP

Her name was Lori

In the future, you have yearly marriage contracts that you either update or you don't and I think that's amazing

Trip didn't die! He faked his death to join Section 31 and go undercover as a Romulan

It's not great, tbh

The ENT books get better after the Romulan wars though, it's proper founding of the Federation stuff

We meet Jack Crusher (erm, the OG) when 4 timelines start overlapping and he's a bit unhinged

Teenage Kirk stole a car and his choice was go to jail or join Starfleet

What happened when Voyager got home? Seven broke up with Chakotay like 30 pages in

Kirk gets cloned, and his clone becomes the sub of an evil invincible super genius and its all very gay

George Kirk was Robert April's first officer on the first ever mission of the unnamed starship with the Naval Construction Contract 1701

Robert is a hard-core pacifist and has to turn command over to George whenever it's time to fire weapons

Data becomes fully human for a couple of days and it's really sweet

They never say "wristwatch" or "phone", it's always "wrist chrono" or "personal comm"

There are gays but they don't say that word because it's the 1990's and Rick Berman runs the franchise

Spock has a son in the past with Zarabeth

Everyone in the post-Nemesis era does spy missions all the time non stop, as if Starfleet has abandoned exploring the cosmos for doing Space Mission: Impossible

Bashir does it better than anyone else, he takes on Section 31 from the inside

Remember Control? It's from the novels, except the novels do it SO MUCH BETTER.

Remember how we never found out who Future Guy was? We do.

It's very underwhelming, nobody we know

We find out how the Romulans and Vulcans split

Surak was a Vulcan internet blogger

A Borg Cube eats Pluto

Janeway dies

Janeway gets better

At least one TOS book features a wizard

There's a Star Trek TOS/Here Come the Brides crossover novel

It had cameos from The Doctor (as in, Who), Han Solo, Starbuck and others

Whole book series about Section 31

Whole book series about the Department of Temporal Investigations

One time they do the Bill and Ted thing to escape confinement and it works

Wanna know how Riker and Troi met?

Wanna know what Picard got up to on the Stargazer?

Andorians have 4 sexes and it's very complicated

Data comes back from the dead as Data 2.0, and it was fresh and exciting because it happened long before ST: Picard did it twice.

Lal comes back too and we get father/daughter android stuff! They have a home and everything but keep having to save the universe

One time Mirror Seven is led around on a leash naked on Terok Nor

Geordi becomes captain of the USS Challenger, decides it's not for him because plot, and goes back to engineering on the Enterprise

Kirk is shot on the bridge and dies

Kirk gets better

They watch 3D holos of old Doctor Who episodes in the Enterprise rec room

The Enterprise also has an AI named Moira, which was Zora long before Zora

The TOS crew get together for one last mission. About three times.

There's a Perry Mason book except it's about Kirk's lawyer from that TOS episode

Data 2.0 owns and runs a massive gambling empire on Orion

Spock keeps randomly showing up everywhere in the TNG era

Scotty keeps randomly showing up everywhere in the TNG era

Bones keeps randomly showing up everywhere in the TNG era

You're on Tumblr so you already know about Killing Time

There's a guy named McKenzie Calhoun and he's a total badass and captains a ship of weirdos and misfits

Kirk comes back from the dead, saves the galaxy repeatedly, has an intersex child (who identifies as male) with a Romulan/Klingon hybrid

Kirk beats up Worf

Kirk's child has superpowers

Kirk's child saves the galaxy at age 6

The Kirk stuff is 100% ignored in the other novels

About 50% of the novels are ignored in the other 50%, and the ones that are meant to be in direct continuity with each other aren't always quite

Just like the TV shows and movies, then

Lwaxana Troi meets Q, and it goes as well as you'd expect

Someone tells Data, yes you idiot you had emotions all along and he's like, oh shit you're right

McCoy is left in command of the Enterprise as a joke by Kirk, who is then immediately kidnapped

Ro Laren is captain of Deep Space Nine

Picard/Beverly is a thing, they get married and have a child named Rene. No running away and raising your kid in secret here

Riker and Troi are married, serve on the Titan together with a bunch of adorable weirdos and have a daughter named Tasha

You get to watch all the 24th century characters die horribly in the end along with their entire universe. Holy fuck it's a bleak horror show. Personally, I love it. But if that's not your cup of tea I'd skip the Coda trilogy

#star trek #star trek novels #star trek novelverse #star trek books #kirk #spock #picard #riker #troi #star trek tos #star trek tng #ds9 #Voyager #enterprise #add your own

[thresholdbb]

what's the threshold theory

There was a post about how Tom is the only crew member who isn't really affected by the Borg, and there's a theory that he has so much luck because he saw the past and the future when he crossed the transwarp threshold. He saw the past and the future, all of time and space. There's some subconscious part of him that remembers that experience. In fact, Tom refused to play a part in Chakotay indulging Annorax's temporal incursions, probably because a part of him knew nothing good could come of it.

If we extend that same theory to Janeway, some of her wild luck with time travel and other crack plans starts to make sense. She doesn't verbally hate time travel until after the events of Threshold, since it happens in Time and Again without complaint. Janeway has an uncanny knack for time travel, as evidenced every time she deals with it. She hates time travel, but it might be because part of her knows exactly how to manipulate the timeline. She manages to avoid the "inevitable" temporal explosion in Future's End, saving both Voyager and Braxton. She resets the entire timeline in Year of Hell, and no one else followed her reasoning. She pulled it off flawlessly. In Relativity, she senses the incidents are all related, despite it being just one reading that connects them. By the time she's involved, she has a temporal incursion factor of .0036 and a time travel protocol named after her, even if that may just be Braxton's personal grudge. Then there's Endgame, where she intentionally changes the timeline. Up until this point, she has been dragged into time travel, but for the first time, she jumps in on purpose. How does Admiral Janeway know how to get them home sooner in a way that completely avoids the Temporal Integrity Commission? It's because she has seen all of time, and part of her knows exactly what needs to happen so she can get Voyager home and do it in a way that becomes baked into the prime timeline. Maybe she doesn't consciously remember what happened during her transformation, but the experience lives in her mind somewhere, guiding her decisions.

#every day is threshold day #tldr threshold cemented the time travel shenanigans #we're not counting her disparagement of time travel in relativity i know it's technically before threshold #but they've messed with the timeline so much that her past timeline is also changed. #Time travel is funny because the past is the future the future is the past #so while relativity comes before threshold in the prime timeline her timeline has also been changed in a way that it wasn't before threshol #we could chalk it up to a writing oversight but this is more interesting #not to mention her uncanny luck with the Borg which I think ties in as well #it's part of why her instinct is so strong #also the bio neural gel packs but that's a different theory #listen she's amazing with or without having seen all of time and space but she has seen all of time and that must have affected her somehow #those little salamander babies also have all of the cosmos in their mind #tried to explain as concisely as possible but it is part of my overarching theory #she doesn't second guess herself nearly as much following their jaunt into transwarp #I have more but I'm trying to be brief cause it's written up partially in my drafts somewhere and i have some things i need to do today lol #meta #Star Trek voyager #Kathryn janeway #threshold day #did you expect me thresholdbb to not have a serious threshold theory? #listen I can make anything nonsense and turn anything into a serious theory I was known for this kinda bs in grad school #I wrote a 25 page paper on NOTHING once #I wrote a paper about how corn fields were super gay and it made my professor cry I can spin the bullshit it is one of my skills

[straightbaittournament]

may the best bait win! propaganda under the cut:

bellamy and clarke:

They start off as a rivals-to-lovers kind of arc, the actors are married and have a kid in addition to (allegedly) being friends with benefits in the early seasons They have multiple intense romantic moments even while they're with other people, the actors were told to play them romantically and have spoken up about it, and are now married, they once won a "sexiest moment" award despite it just being him pushing her hair back, they get married in the books, they constantly tell each other that they need each other, and call themselves "the head and the heart"

they get married in the books the actors were told to play them romantically for seven years, but in the final season, clarke KILLS bellamy because the showrunner hated his teen girl fanbase. they also had multiple almost-love confessions, and constantly said things like "i need you" and called themselves "the head and the heart"

"m/f pairs who have some kind of weird fucking thing going on that is never explicitly named platonic or romantic" "couples whose romance is teased but never confirmed as such" No matter how much the showrunner tries to deny it, it was quite obvious from the beginning that Clarke and Bellamy were supposed to end up together. But then Clexa happened, and the massive backlash to Lexa's death (understandable) pretty much killed any chance they could manifest that romance. I'm okay with that, because it allows Bellarke a complexity that most straight pairings don't have. But the chemistry, and the chemistry was strong - so strong that the actors got married!

They're canon in the books the show is based on, and their plot seemed like it would be a slow burn enemies to friends to lovers, but the producer actively made fun of fans for shipping it and ended the series with clarke killing bellamy.

janeway and chakotay:

Janeway is the Captain of a Starfleet ship lost so far from home it will take decades to reach. Chakotay is the Captain of a Maquis (rebel) ship also lost there. They decide to work together to get home and combine their crews when the Maquis ship is destroyed, and Chakotay becomes her second-in-command. Because of the seriousness of the situation, Janeway feels that she cannot afford the distraction of a romance and so they never get together. They have NO personal space and look longingly at each other quite often and one episode has them forced to abandon ship potentially forever and they live together in a little house and he builds her a bathtub because she complains about not having one and they share a romantically charged massage where he tells her a made up story about a warrior and the woman who inspired him which he openly admits is made up and actually about them. Also he holds her while she cries about their chance of going back to the ship being destroyed. In a different episode she “dies” and he cradled her body while weeping about it. They also have candlelit dinners regularly and she lent him a copy of the book her ex-fiancé gave her, and every time the show conspires to make one temporarily unaware of the other, they flirt hardcore. An episode designed to show how they wouldn’t work as a couple only makes more people ship them. Also a young version of Janeway meets older Chakotay via time travel and asks him if they’re together in the future despite her being engaged at that point. He declined to answer directly.

they have a lot of Tension thruout the series & a very deep relationship, but Janeway has someone waiting for her back home & Chakotay ends up in a romance plot with another person in the last season (that I personally felt came from out of nowhere but whatever) I rooted for them! I rooted for a str8 couple! I did not care that Janeway had someone waiting for her back home even tho I usually do! but I did not care! they deserved to fuck!

#bellarke might've actually been the most submitted pair i got #''they deserved to fuck'' one of the quotes ever #straightbait tournament round 1 #the 100 #star trek #star trek: voyager #bellarke #j/c #janeway x chakotay #bellamy blake #clarke griffin #kathryn janeway #chakotay #poll #polls #poll tournament

[worflesbian]

I think part of the reason janeway compels me so much is bc i really feel like on any other show she would've been a sympathetic villain at best. like in the last episode I watched she holds a baby while talking about killing it's siblings and it's genuinely only through the thoroughly established context of janeway having to make horrible choices in order to save her crew that we can read that scene as anything but unhinged. and it Does make sense in context bc she's talking about killing adolescent Borg drones to stop them from assimilating hostages, but in most other shows that kind of thing coming from a female character especially would not end up with her being the good guy at the end of the episode.

im thinking about how btvs which aired at a similar time had a whole arc about the pressures of leadership driving buffy to become way too harsh and the consequences of that are she gets kicked out of her own home. avasarala on the expanse does a lot of awful things but being uncompromising and not giving a fuck is like her most notable character trait, she tortures a guy in her first appearance. these narratives have little sympathy for women who do bad things in the name of something greater, either they're punished for it and rejected by those around them or they're characterised as cold and lacking compassion. but janeway for the most part has the full support of her crew and spends the majority of the time being kind and diplomatic, As Well as choosing to sacrifice lives or collaborate with mass murderers when she has to.

and it's conflicting bc although this is almost a one of a kind female character I think part of her existence is due to voyagers unwillingness to challenge the status quo of star trek despite having the perfect premise to do so. everyone wears uniform and adheres to rank despite half the crew being unenlisted terrorists, starfleet is largely unquestioned as an absolute moral good despite the origin of the maquis being designed to undermine and examine that, and the captain is always the hero at the end of the day.

#I think the adult yellowjackets are the most similar examples I can think of where they're fully sympathetic #but even then I feel you're kind of supposed to think of them as awful people whereas janeway is fully framed as a hero still #and obviously there's more nuanced female characters in serious dramas #but then they're pretty much never the main character to the extent that janeway is #anyway if anyone knows some good examples of morally grey women who don't get punished by the narrative id love to hear them #janeway #ghitlhpu'wij

[foone]

We should start a star trek voyager project to rewrite the 138 episodes that take place after Threshold. Maintain the original plots for the most part, but now the lizard babies are there.

Introduce a crewman who is a babysitter for them when Janeway and Paris have to go do Mission Stuff. For one episode the babysitter gets injured or something and tuvok and neelix to take care of the babies and they're teething! Have Paris tell his dad that he's now a grandfather. Seska steals Voyager in Basics but she misses the babies because no one has gotten around to adding them to the crew register yet, so now Lon Suder has to take care of them while sneaking around the ship.

By the time of The Year of Hell, they can talk, and they're of equivalent intelligence to like 5 year old (modern) humans. One of them dies during the episode, and Janeway is devastated. They come back at the end, of course.

They get mad when they find out the publisher edited them out of The Doctor's hit holonovel of life on Voyager. They show up in Barclay's recreation of life on Voyager, but he gets them completely wrong. They look like iguanas, not salamanders.

During The Killing Game, one of them eats a Hirogen Nazi. Janeway is so proud.

The Voth use them as PROOF that their two species are related, during Distant Origin.

When Q wants to have a kid with Janeway during The Q and the Grey, she replies "I've already got enough kids, thank you very much"

One of them decides to stay with Neelix when he leaves Voyager, having become attached to him, and Neelix treating them like the child they never had.

By the end of the show they'd be six years old, and they obviously grow up fast. They could easily be junior members of the crew by then. They are close friends with Icheb and Q2.

Tom has redesigned the Delta Flyer so that one of the Lizard Kids (the "oldest", Mark) can fly it too, as they're taking after their dad and becoming a damn good pilot.

Another (the middle child, Owen) is helping out B'Elanna (and later, Seven) with tech stuff, and he enjoys helping fix the ship. You'd be amazed how fast a quadrupedal lizard can run through Jeffries Tubes and fix a plasma coupling.

The third (the youngest, Shannon) is an artist and a musician, and is closest to her "godfather", Harry. She's not sure she wants to join Starfleet like her siblings, but she's still happy to help out when she can. She's doing some training with Tuvok as it seems Future Humans have some empathic abilities, and hers are strong enough to need practice to be able to control.

There's a subplot in some random episode where Mark is unsure how they fit in with (modern) humans, and decides they don't fit the gender binary. The Doctor rattles off a long list of species with more than two genders, and he mentions humans. Mark then decides their gender is "lizard" and uses they/them pronouns for the rest of the show. They keep the name Mark for now, commiserating with The Doctor about having a placeholder name until you can figure our your True Name. The gets referenced in one of the future segments of Endgame, where it's revealed that The Doctor has taken the given name "Mark", but it's not revealed what name (if any) Mark has changed to.

Speaking of Endgame, Shannon is on Vulcan helping take care of Tuvok. She's become quite a good doctor by then.

And Owen... didn't make it. He died on the long trip back, valiantly saving the whole ship from a destabilized warp core on the verge of rupture, but took a lethal dose of radiation in the process. Janeway held him in her arms as he died, and she posthumously gave him a promotion to lieutenant, first class. It's one of the things that drive her to go back in time and get Voyager home sooner, and can you really blame her?

Mark's teaching at the academy, after they'd enrolled to make their enlistment official. They barely made it a semester before they were being asked to help teach classes, and then eventually just running half the navigational and piloting divisions. Half of Starfleet wants them as a pilot for new missions to uncharted space, but for now they're staying close to home. Dad is so proud. Their little (half) sister Miral Paris likes to gently rib them over this, pointing out that she's probably gonna end up becoming a full Captain before Mark even gets out of the Academy. Mark points out they could have graduated years ago, but they need to stay here and train the next generation of Starfleet pilots, or Captain Miral Paris's first mission will end real quick when some badly trained ensign accidentally flies them into a black hole.

(Momma Janeway, of course, likes to point out that their dad already DID fly into a black hole, and he even managed to fly out of it afterwards. Miral and Mark both agree that the physics on that one doesn't make much sense, so they're not sure how much they believe that.)

Basically I just want to radically reimagine most of Voyager from Threshold onward, first in small ways with the lizard babies being a small background element and occasional B-plot, but then having their role grow until they're regulars, on even footing with the main cast, appearing in A-plots and having plots of their own dominate an episode.

I get why the show couldn't manage having full-time cast members who are fully CGI, it was 27 years ago after all. But that's no limitation for writing, and besides: we've got Janeway appearing on a fully computer generated show now! We could totally have the Threshold Kids as primary characters.

There'll also be a crossover episode taking place in the primary (no-threshold-babies on board) timeline. It's after voyager, and more importantly after DS9. Janeway and Chakotay are relaxing on earth, having made it safely back home, when they get a vision. The missing-in-action former captain of Deep Space Nine has learned about what happened, and he is pissed. At first he's angry at Janeway for leaving her children behind, no matter the circumstances of their birth, but then he learns it was Chakotay who made the decision (Janeway was too busy being a lizard at the time). His anger is only mostly redirected, as Janeway had every chance to turn around the ship and go back and get them once she'd been cured. He talks to them about the importance and duty of being a parent, and both Janeway and Chakotay agree... They messed up. Janeway wishes she could fix it. The Sisko ask her if she really means that, and when she confirms it, he smiles. You never left them behind, you know. Chakotay made the right choice and when you had the chance, you agreed with him. The Sisko fades away, and six years sideways Tuvok and a younger Chakotay are staring at a pond on some unnamed alien world, having just zapped Lizard!Paris and Lizard!Janeway with a phaser. They see a light on their faces as they go into an Orb of the Prophets Vision , and The Sisko, official demi-god and prophet of Bajor, gives them a direct order. They are to bring those babies on board their ship, because Starfleet is about discovering new life and new civilizations and THERE IT SWIMS. Voyager is a family, and it's a family that just got bigger. He holds the lizard babies in his arms for a moment, even if only in the vision, and he's so proud of them. The Sisko has always loved babies, and the number of Bajorans who have reported having unprompted Orb Visions in the days after they give birth is becoming a bit of an epidemic. (For what it's worth, they're very happy about it. It's a great blessing after all. Imagine you just gave birth and Jesus or Moses shows up in a vision to tell you your baby is very cute and is going to grow up big and strong. You'd probably take that as a good omen, you know?)

Back in 2372, Chakotay and Tuvok agree. The rest of the episode is altered: Janeway and Paris have a brief talk in the med-bay, then go down to Cargo Deck 2 to see their kids swimming in the little artifical pond that Kes and Tuvok set up for them. Neelix is there, trying to feed them small spoonfuls of Feragoit goulash. They don't know what to make of Tuvok and Chakotay's report of getting a vision that told them to bring the babies on board, but they agree it was the right choice, even if it's going to be a challenge raising three babies on a starship this far from home. The episode ends with one of the babies missing the spoon entirely and latching onto Neelix's thumb, and Paris and Janeway laugh.

His high-pitched screaming echoes through the ship as we cut to the view of Voyager flying through the stars, and the card "Executive Producer Rick Berman" pops up on screen. As if on cue, the screams get louder.

#threshold #star trek voyager

[elephant-in-the-pride-parade]

Dal/Gwyn, Janeway/Chakotay parallels

I've been mulling this over for a while so I just wanna put all of these down. I really have been enjoying the parallels between these four, and there's a bunch. Will add to this as I think of more.

Dal and Janeway:

They're both on a quest to find home. Janeway back to Earth. Dal back to his family.

Both captain a nontraditional crew and bring them under the Starfleet banner. Dal captains his crew of escaped prisoners from Tars Lamora and Janeway the combined members of her original crew and the Maquis in each case this is born of expediency. They need the crew numbers to get the ship running. And for both part of their journey becomes learning to be a better captain to their unique crews.

Both explore and grapple with their relationship to starfleet ideals. In Dal's case learning Starfleet ideals and laws from scratch and putting them into practice. In Janeway's having her existing ideals tested by an environment where they are difficult to hold to. She and Dal both experience obstacles that test their commitment to these ideals and face consequences of straying from them.

Stars: Dal's window of dreams. Janeway's love of nebulas. The stars mean different things to these two: freedom to Dal and discovery to Janeway but both are seen to have a particular affinity for them.

Learning to lean on their crew: Both in one way or another return to themes of accepting help rather than depending only on themselves. For Dal, this comes from a past of self-preservation and survival. For Janeway, from guilt-driven instinct to put her crew before herself. Both see some of their greatest successes and moments of growth when they set aside those tendencies and accept help from their crew.

Gwyn and Chakotay

Both leave their home for Starfleet, and later return to it when it is in trouble. Chakotay leaves Dorvan/Trebus at 15 against the wishes of his father in order to pursue Starfleet Academy. and only returns when it attacked by the Cardassians. Gwyn idealizes Starfleet her whole life on Tars Lamora only to decide to try to save Solum rather than join her friends as warrant officers.

Both have complicated relationships with their dead fathers. Both of their fathers disagreed with their pursuit of Starfleet, and wanted them to embrace a future that more directly benefited their homeworld. Both were in conflict with them before their deaths and Both of their fathers were killed violently, spurring a shift in their thinking.

Both love exploring other cultures. Gwyn has a love of languages. Chakotay of archeology/anthropology. Both enjoy learning about new people and places and making connections.

Both of their homeworlds are abandoned by the Federation for political reasons - a treaty with the Cardassians in one case and a commitment to non-interference in the other. In Chakotay's case this leads him to turn against starfleet for a time, feeling that it had abandoned its ideals. I'm curious if Gwyn's mission to Solum will lead her down a similar path.

Both act the first officer to an equal. Chakotay was a captain of his own ship before agreeing to be Janeway's second in command. Gwyn has more technical expertise about the Protostar's systems than Dal, and more familiarity with the Federation.

Dal/Gwyn &. Chakotay/Janeway

Both pairs begin their relationship at odds in similar ways. Janeway is seeking to arrest Chakotay. Dal is first Gwyn's prisoner and then takes her as a captive.

The Moral Star/Coda parallels. I just enjoy a good "You might be dying in my arms and I never told you how I felt moment" okay. I am a sucker for it.

Gwyn and Dal ending Season 1 in a similar place to where Janeway and Chakotay were at the start of it. Chakotay winds up trapped on Alt!Future Solum after accepting a mission to complete some of the unfinished work/fix some of the mistakes Voyager had when it first traversed the Delta Quadrant. Gwyn ends Season one going to fix some of the mistakes made between Solum and Starfleet in the alternate future. Janeway and Dal, meanwhile, are at HQ with their own Starfleet-focused duties.

Speculations:

All of the above have me wondering if both couples are in a similar place romantically. Dal and Gwyn are just beginning a romantic relationship when they separate. Is that where Janeway and Chakotay are as well?

And will this mean that Gwyn will also need a rescue? Will her mission go sideways like Chakotay's did?

#gwyndala #dal r'el #kathryn janeway #chakotay #janeway x chakotay #gwyn x dal #janeway/chakotay #gwyn/dal #star trek voyager #star trek prodigy

[baylardian-1]

i might flesh these out more i might not lol. some of them i felt INSPIRED on and some i didnt. :V also had names in mind for some of them and not for others lol. generally speaking the idea is that the voyager crew and the maquis are like, two groups in conflict. starfleet is a warren, and the maquis are just a bunch of deserter rogue bunnies causing problems who janeway (Haven) is set out to capture. ummmm i figureeeed MAYBE that the caretaker plot would be that a small group from each side gets captured by the "caretaker" and they get transported somewheeeere like a lab or something and then they have to work together to escape and find their home (or make a new one together *winks mysteriously*).

Janeway: Haven - Captain of her warren's Owsla, sent to capture the rogue rabbits, becomes a respected leader for the band of homeless bunnies, and eventually is regarded as their chief rabbit.

Chakotay: Hawk - A big buck that got his name from the other maquis rabbits by fighting off an elil (hawk lol). He has a sick scar from the fight on his head. Serves underneath Haven and comes to respect her and her leadership, keeps everyone in line since she's so little.

Paris: Buttercup - A free spirit, pretty carefree for a buck and it almost always gets him into trouble. Deserted from the warren, deserted from the rogues, just wants to roam and do what he wants. Considered to be rather fast and brave, if reckless; believes he can outrun anything.

Tuvok: Orchid - Orchid's secretly still a part of the warren still but infiltrating the band of rogues, part of the Owsla in their warren, serves under Haven devotedly. Doesn't say much. Haven blathers for the both of them.

Torres: 🤷 - Not a lot of ideas here sadly lol, her design's very filler I just couldn't think of anything to do. :'U Still debating on giving the girlypops hair. Just an angry doe with daddy issues, serves under Hawk, takes a while to warm up to Haven, thinks she could easily take her in a fight.

Doctor: Doc - I figure Doc and Seven would probably be like, lab rabbits that join the band at the Caretaker's establishment or whatever. So Doc comes across as very spoiled and whiney and pampered (And kinda overweight lol BUT LARGE AND NOT MALNOURISHED). Has a weird knack for cleaning wounds given his upbringing.

Seven: Seven - MAYBE a bred Blanc de Hotot. Built different. Doesn't say a lot. HUGE for a doe, similar to Doc. Has a lovehate thing with Doc, they probably were raised around each other, Seven takes to the wild a lot more naturally than he does.

Kim: 🤷 - Just a lil fella! I'm not sure if he'd have been in the Owsla or not prior to adventuring out with Haven and her group. Maybe he's training to join the Owsla. He's just happy to be here. :)

#thank u to the homies helping me design and name these <333333 #im particularly not fond of most of these... theyre just rough ideas rn #likeee honestly only Seven and Harry im pretty ok with haha #My Art #Watership Down #Star Trek: Voyager #Kathryn Janeway #Haven #captain haven has such a nice ring to it hawhaw #Chakotay #Hawk #Thomas Paris #Buttercup #Tuvok #Orchid #B'Elanna Torres #EMH #Doctor #Seven of Nine #Seven #Doc #Harry Kim #Rabbit #AU

[almalvo]

I have... now finished Star Trek: Voyager.

Wow.

I cannot deny the tears that found my eyes.

This was a good series.

Flawed or not, this was a good series.

Many characters were too criminally underused/uncared for.

Stupid crap happened too ofc.

But in the end, I still hold this series to be endearing nonetheless.

Thank you so much for taking us along with you on your journey home.

Farewell, Voyager.

---

PS - what REAL Voyager ACTUALLY is:

Neelix wasn't as much annoying as the crew was written to be so annoyed by him.

Tuvok got a good ending regardless. He also is implicitly close, close buddies with Neelix.

Janeway is a GOAT. I love her voice. And smile. Kate Mulgrew is a lovely actor.

The Borg Queen is magnificent.

Chakotay did stuff.

Tom was more than just pilot man.

B'Elanna had more depth and reflection and reconciliation on her identity and her history as both human and Klingon.

F her father. No redemption was ever to be considered for that man.

Seven was very well written - if not the best written character in the show (the character most given a shite about in the writers room..)

Chakotay and Seven was never and will never be a thing in any universe.

The Doctor wasn't a fickle shallow cheat like the show constantly mishandled him as.

The Doctor truly had an unrequited love for Seven - but settled with becoming and remaining close as friends. And he did NOT just hook up with some other blonde chick cuz he has actual substance and was drawn to Seven for actual significant reason and not just drawn because he had any kind of "romantic TYPE" at all whatsoever. F the writers for doing The Doctor/Robert Picardo's glorious acting so dirty. And. HIS NAME WILL NEVER BE JOE.

Kess never came back a vengeful hag.

Voyager's CGI and VFX graphics were really good, even if subtly refined a ton towards the end of the 7th season - mwah.

Harry wasn't so eyeroll and actually had more than like 2 episodes on himself and was promoted in Voyager cuz that's what the real Janeway would have known to have done - and he was an actually significant asian character as opposed to just a figurehead of feigned POC representation - in addition to the fact that his character was finally to establish that asia is not Japan.

Seven and The Doctor are gay and are besties with each other - will never change my mind.

#farewell #Voyager #star trek #star trek voyager #VOY #janeway #chakotay #tuvok #harry kim #tom paris #belanna torres #neelix #kess #the doctor #seven of nine #thoughts #reaction #text #almalvo

[mswyrr]

Star Trek: Voyager, 4x26 "Hope and Fear"

This was so refreshing. It was this moody contemplation on choices and consequences without any villains, without moral simplifications.

-Arturis isn't a puppy kicker the way he'd be in, like, MCU style stuff. His problem with Janeway is clear and has limits. He's not here on a rampage, though he is driven by a grief that has clearly broken him inside. When Janeway cannot convince him out of it though - I couldn't blame him, I couldn't say he was wrong. That final image of him entering Borg space (the place that used to be his home, where everyone he loves is now dead and dismembered by the Borg, where he too soon will join them in that living death) is gonna haunt me, in a good way.

-People constantly jump Janeway for her moral decisions but I think this episode puts a neat point on something here which is that, oftentimes, there is no purely good decision for her to make. Just a choice among a bunch of bad decisions. She doesn't have the might and resources of the Federation at her back, she doesn't get to make clean and pure decisions. Every option has problems, consequences she cannot foresee, but she has to make a decision or they lose people, they lose the chance to get home.

As Sisko put it re: the Federation. "It's easy to be a saint in paradise." But Janeway, like Sisko, is not living in paradise. She tries very hard to be a decent person, but she doesn't have the resources necessary to make that easy.

I LOVE that she isn't a saint, a perfect Mommy, or a devil. She just is and this -- this is the best she can do in the circumstances she's in. It hurts and it's not good. But there it is.

Her shift from a kind of predatory rage--once she realizes Arturis is playing and deceiving her and he's a threat to her people-- to grief over what she's inadvertently done to Arturis and his people and the way he cannot be persuaded out of his decisions was beautiful.

-The lovely, funny J7 shippy moment actually captures the episode's themes beautifully:

Janeway: In a brig, nine months ago, I severed you from the collective and you weren't happy about it.

Seven: No, I was not.

Janeway: In case I never get a chance to say this… I realize that I've been hard on you at times, but it was never out of anger, or regret that I brought you on board. I'm your captain. That means I can't always be your friend. Understand?

Seven: No. However, if we are assimilated, our thoughts will become one, and I'm sure I will understand perfectly. [a beat] A joke, Captain. You have encouraged me to use my sense of humor.

Seven is another imperfect decision Janeway has had to make - a person who exists (and has a sense of humor! because of Janeway) and yet continues to have the right to complicated feelings about being made to exist in this way by Janeway's decision.

Perfect choices - perfect understanding - those aren't possible. (Not even for Starfleet captains with all the resources Janeway does not have). Unless you're Borg and have the absolute unity (and erasure of personhood) that involves. Unless you are, as Arturis puts it, more like a storm or a force of nature than a person, the way the Borg are.

Instead of perfection we have a spectrum of what is possible here and now, for Janeway - Arturis and his people, destroyed and unreachable, due to Janeway's decision. And the grace of Seven, who is alive and in front of her and reachable but not fully, not totally at peace with what she's done and maybe Seven never will be. Janeway has to accept that; a choice had to be made, there were no perfect options, the only thing she can do is face the consequences with as much decency as she can muster.

(People who say she never faces consequences confuse and befuddle me so much - but enough of that lol)

#star trek voyager #kathryn janeway #arturis #my meta #star trek meta #seven of nine #j7

[bumblingbabooshka]

Mirror!Neelix & Mirror!Kes Thoughts: Shared theme of destruction. Leaning further into Kes' 'insect' vibes where the Ocampa are actually a locust-like species that require a near constant source of food, though any food will do (it doesn't have to be a cooked dish). The caretaker was able to satisfy that but since Kes is alone now she finds that she's hungry a good deal of the time. Ocampa have been known in the past to cannibalize one another if there isn't another source of food. Also, I can imagine Mirror!Kes playing into the fact that other species view her age as being very young and pretending to be naive or in need of help in order to get others to let their guard down. Manipulative and often irritated by others. Despite playing into the fact that others might see her as a child, she deeply resents it. Lashes out in covert ways which she can deny. Wants to unlock her telepathic abilities to gain more power. Views herself as special and above others for being able to reach the surface. Mirror!Neelix I can imagine as having a direct hand in the destruction of his home and family. Basically, he became a soldier instead of running away. Has a poor reputation with other Talaxians because of this which he resents. Is still deeply sad about the deaths of his family but tries not to think about them at all. Also unlike regular Neelix who somewhat oversells his abilities, Mirror!Neelix undersells them. Much more lethargic and outwardly jaded/bitter than regular Neelix. Intentionally poisons Voyager's crew on a monthly basis but not Janeway or Chakotay and never lethally so she doesn't kick him off. Can make amazing dishes but often intentionally ruins them. (Good food is a special treat). Obviously dislikes his lot in life and enjoys bringing others down. Finds Tuvok intriguing because he seems immune to this. ('I want to make him happy!' is mirrored as 'I want to make him sad!') Since Voyager's Mirrored goal in my mind is 'conquer' instead of 'explore' - they often see Kes & Neelix as nuisances since they don't seem to care at all about growing their influence or being feared throughout the quadrant at first. However, Kes quickly learns to like conquering and power and grows to admire both Janeway and Tuvok. Neelix doesn't much care about conquering so much as he wants to mooch off Voyager's resources and make others miserable. Eventually becomes attached to Voyager's crew but that doesn't mean he'll poison their food any less, especially if he hears them complaining. Even after this change they're still viewed as nuisances because they don't care about any command structure except for 'Appease the Captain'.

#also in the mirrored verse Neelix is just as possessive at first but Kes is very irritated by it and they fight a lot #eventually they stop their on-off romance and just become partners in crime and their relationship improves (to everyone's dismay) #<- they are twice the nuisance 24/7 #In the mirrored verse Kes wants to the doctor to make some sort of serum/medication that can keep her alive longer #st voyager #Neelix #Kes #mirror voyager #mirror Kes also wants to eat dead crewmates v_v EMH will NOT let her until he does an autopsy thank you very much #mirrorverse to me is: Voyager crew is still a fucked up little family made unhealthily close due to the circumstances <3 #they just ALSO kill and conquer and torture people and are evil #WELL....that's the more 'zany' mirrorverse. My other Voyager 'mirrorverse' is just basically 'wrong decisions' AU #where they're still a fucked up little family made unhealthily close due to the circumstances <3 #they just ALSO have made so many impossible and bad decisions that they're paranoid beyond belief and have essentially abandoned Starfleet #code and many of their own morals to focus entirely on survival while feeling guilty and miserable the entire time #but this is the zany version where their backstories are changed - in the 'wrong decision' AU they start out as the same people/backstories

[isagrimorie]

Rewatching a few scenes from Star Trek Voyager's 2 part episode: Workforce. These episodes really did a number on Janeway; this is one of the times I did wish emotional arcs carried over from one episode to the next.

In the seven years in the Delta Quadrant, nothing has stopped Janeway's quest to bring home her crew back to the Alpha Quadrant.

And in the Delta Quadrant, for Captain Kathryn Janeway, the Voyager is home.

Janeway has faced off against the Borg Queen, the Hirogen, the Vidiians, and Species 8472 but no one has done as much damage to Janeway the way Dr Kadan did a number on Kathryn Janeway.

Because Kadan took away Janeway's certainty.

Kathryn Janeway can traverse any gulf, and jump to any fire as long as she has her iron-clad certainty and belief in her mission intact and that was what Kadan took from Kathryn Janeway.

He accidentally pinpointed the one thing she's been able to repress for so long, and that's her loneliness and how bone tired she is of being in Command.

More than any other Captain, Kathryn Janeway needed a sabbatical. She needed to reconnect with herself, and just be Kathryn.

This is the gift and curse Kadan gave to Kathryn Janeway. Because as plain ol' Kathryn Janeway, a factory worker she was happy, free of responsibility and burdens of Command.

She found friends, love, and comfort in Jaffen (a well-casted romantic lead. The actor had charisma and acting chops to make us believe Janeway Captain or just Kathryn would fall for him).

I don't think Janeway even knew how lonely she's become -- no one needed a long vacation from work than Janeway. I hope that she got that vacation Starfleet put her on the Flag Officer track.

Through the whole two-part episode we see them build up this vivacious and happy version of Kathryn, and then by part 2, the story slowly pulls that away from her.

Just as an example, the look on Kathryn's face when Harry addresed her as "Captain".

You can see how Harry addressing Kathryn as "Captain" struck a chord in her but it's also like someone threw cold water at her.

Kathryn immediately tells Harry to call her "Kathryn" instead:

Kathryn tries to still be in denial and tentatively brings up what Chakotay told her: "He said you had proof of who some of us really are."

She's trying to put distance between herself and this reality. She's conflicted-- she doesn't want to be Captain Janeway. There's even a hint of temptation there that she doesn't want to continue on helping her missing friends.

And yet, the moment Voyager and her crew were in trouble some part of herself reacted. And despite what she felt, she proceeded to bring down the shield knowing that doing so would tear her away from the life she's come to love.

This happens fast, once the shield grid is down, Kathryn disappears from Jaffen's side.

And the next time they see each other again, Kathryn Janeway is Captain Kathryn Janeway again with her uniform and Command back. And they might as well be a million miles away despite being in the same room:

Janeway allows herself to embrace Jaffen for one last time, and there's tears in her eyes, her grief is palpable. It's the way she's held herself apart from Jaffen, the way her hand twitches like she wants to reach out and touch him but can't.

Not in the uniform she's wearing, not in the position she's in.

You can see how much her experience in Quarren affected Janeway by the way she enters the Bridge:

In the turbo lift, she's faced away from the Bridge as if she can't bear being there. She has to steel herself.

Normally Janeway occupies the turbo lift like she owns that space. Because she DOES.

It’s so strange seeing Janeway occupy so little space in her own bridge, even when Voyager was hijacked she never looked out of place or so small.

The moment she steps out Harry, eager Ensign Harry, who missed the events in Quarren and how it might have affected her notices Captain Janeway immediately and announces her arrival.

She looks around at the bridge, still uncertain. Still picking up the pieces of the Captain.

Even when she sat on her Command chair,Janeway looked uncomfortable and for the first time, Captain Janeway doesn't look like she's larger than life.

She can't help but confide to Chakotay:

And. There. It. Is.

The biggest moment. Janeway admitted that Quarren felt like home. Even in The 37s, on a planet that's closest to Earth and home Janeway never even considered that home.

In the Delta Quadrant, Voyager is home.

The moment Janeway said this on the rewatch, I was bowled over because this is such a big moment for Janeway. A big thing for her to admit.

Chakotay asks her if Janeway is sorry he showed up and upended her comfortable life in Quarren?

There is a second's beat, but the beat tells all the story that needs to be said. Janeway rallies and lies: "Not for a second."

She's saying the right words but, at that moment, so near Quarren, after just losing Jaffen. Janeway says something she doesn't feel.

Janeway orders Tom to resume the course for home; but after she gives the order, Janeway's face falls.

And it's so damned sad and this, as I said above, is one of the moments I wish they continued this emotional throughline with Janeway.

Kadan did a number on her and I wish we get to see throughout a few episodes Janeway slowly get over the lie and find a measure of happiness.

Instead, season 7 loses its focus on Janeway and bizarrely have an episode with Q Jr and then a lot of focus on the EMH Doctor. It takes several episodes before Janeway gets the focus again, and that's the series finale.

If Voyager were written today, and the writers were allowed, this moment would be the emotional turning point for Janeway. It's the point where Janeway has to find a way home fast otherwise she's heading for a breakdown.

The center will not hold.

It's probably a good thing her future, alternate self decided to save Captain Janeway the heartbreak of a decade more of this life, and losing the people she loves the most.

And it kind of hurts that canonically, we don't know if Janeway was able to take that vacation. And if Janeway was able to get a measure of happiness and love, as I've mentioned after this episode and after Firewall I really don't care who Janeway ends up with anymore as long as Janeway is happy.

/Edited, March 13 2024, 10AM

#star trek voyager #long post #kathryn janeway #workforce 1 & 2 (voyager) #voyager s7

[punkbxt]

dime the takes. por favor.

*gets real close to the vending machine* quiero pepsi

okay all seriousness tho imma try to do this in a way thats like idk semi respectful towards janeway but i also need yall to know i do NOT reallyf fuck with her. idk if ive explained why before but i guess here we go

unlike most people that enjoy star trek i didnt really get into it till 2018 and then the demmy hit n i had nothing but time to consume every star trek imaginable and thats how i found voyager. yeah sure make fun of me for not knowing what star trek is but i need YALL to know that it is white and usamerican culture to be raised on trek and I DONT CARE. the only reason i got into star trek is bc a white friend introduced me. all this to say i was introduced to janeways actress through oitnb red ilu so much red best evil white lady <3

anyways i know janeway gets hate for having been the only lady captain and i always preface anything i say about her with this so yall understand that this is not the reason i dislike her but in reality it doesnt help either

also its tiring as fuck to include my opposing argument but it has to be done bc ppl are like “what about- pkay but you didnt consider how- yeah but- actually youre wrong bc-“ like fuck man im doing my damndest i literally hate voicing my opinions bc yall INSIST people of color dont actually get it n its tiring

if youve followed me since i started voyagerposting you may have noticed ive only actually drawn janeway twice and its cuz as a person she rubs me the wrong way for so many reasons

janeway gets put in this impossible position of being the top of the hierarchy pyramid to a crew that doesnt think theyll ever make it home again. shes deemed a mother figure by a LOT of characters but im gonna talk abt her dynamics with b’elanna, and seven because if i were to talk about the dynamics between janeway and harry thatd have to be its own post

when i get into a show, i loooveeee knowing what was happening behind the scenes because i love it!! i love set design i love character design i love costume design i love seeing what the actors are like outside of the show and how they feel about these characters bc these things ARE important. (writers too pero i have beef) behind the scenes is the biggest influence to the final product bc its the reason the final product exists in the first place and behind the scenes so many things went wrong. and when actors are mistreated or dont get along with eachother it becomes pretty apparent. well at least if you analyze things the way i do

so heres my issue with janeway seven and b’elanna. b’elanna is typecast to be the ugly character. klingons gave always gotten the short end of the stick and the case with her isnt as harsh bc her actress is a mixed puerto rican (information that has actually only recently been revealed bc when i tried to find out what roxan’s ethnicity was in 2019 i literally could not find anything definitive except for shes latina) but she STILL gets a lot of shit

one of my favorite things about voyager before the introduction of seven was how b’elanna and janeway actually got to bond a lot over science and when seven took on the roll of pretty girl on the ship, b’elanna and janeway suffered a LOT for it. we have an interesting dynamic between a maquis engineer and a federation captain genuinely not getting along bc b’elanna doesnt see janeways as an authority figure. not until chakotay has something to say about it and also until b’elanna and janeway actually talk about shit n get over their differences. the issue is when ppl purposely skip the earlier seasons to get to seven and then a lot of important interpersonal character building is missed I SAY THIS BC PEOPLE OFTEN FORGET THAT VOYAGER HAS BEEN ASSIMILATED BY THE BORG BEFORE AND EVEN THE WRITERS LET IT SLIP THEUR MIND N ITS LIKE BRO U HAVE GOLD TO WRITE WITH N U JUST LET IT COLLECT IN THE CORNER

seven is a unique and interesting character when she is first introduced. seven looks like any other borg and is so COOL. and then immediately all the cool interesting things about the way seven looks is basically negated to a few shiny parts. and yes janeway is partly to blame

BUT! what is the easiest way to gain the trust of people who already have bad history with who you once were? assimilation of course! seven goes from being one of many to the outcasts outcast

but punkbxt! what does any of this have to do with why you dislike janeway as a character? if anything it sounds more like you dislike seven. as long as the character is white ill always hold a lil disdain for them in my heart <3

janeway symbolizes the best of starfleet. she is an accredited officer and an extremely capable scientist. she is a beautiful white woman in THE position of power something that was revolutionary for her time. the issues with white women being put in positions of power is they they have NEVER had the interests of black and brown people to heart. “yes they-“ SHUT UP and let me speak before you decide to comment on this goddamn post

feminism throughout the centuries has focused on white women and while a show is merely a fraction of the lived reality of its time the effects are still extremely clear. white feminism JUMPED at the character of janeway and celebrated her and rightfully so! the issues came about when women like b’elanna got attacked and pushed to the side. this directly affected janeway within fandom and she got and still is recognized for accomplishments SHE DID NOT DO. she got put on a pedestal and once that happens to a character they suddenly can do no wrong. except she does because shes a human and shes white and shes a character with writers behind her

b’elanna has never actually been a super popular character and the wave of love for her is actually pretty fucking recent and not to toot my own horn but i definitely was a big part of the b’elanna love resurgence. when i got into voyager and these dates ARE important, i used to scroll through her entire tag easily a couple times through a DAY. fans occasionally created art for her and yeah! she got fics but nowhere in comparison to her other peers. surrounding yourself with people who also love her and want to create for her does help with recognition of b’elanna but its super recent stuff. and to add onto that any white fan that has an opinion about her will always be biased because they just do not understand what it is like to exist as a latina woman of color

this is where me myself and i come into the story because wowowowowow star trek is so cool! star trek preaches on and on and on about diversity love acceptance hate oppression and all that good stuff so who wouldnt love it??? and then??? OMG THERES A LATINA CHARACTER IN ONE SERIES OMG OMG OMG. imagine my disappointment when i found out that she a main character barely was getting any love. it hurt. because even within a narrative of inclusion somehow characters of color just seem to always be pushed to the side. especially when a fandom has such a majority percentage of white people

watching her story was SO personal to me. i could see myself in her struggling with living in america. i lived my childhoods in puerto rico and in many different parts of usamerica, surrounded by family and people like me until that wasnt the case anymore. i spent my life living as a nomad with no place to call home for on average no less than a year and no more than three. i could understand b’elanna with her struggles of living in a klingon monastery and then being thrust into an unforgiving and unaccepting world where humans/white people are the most important. the internalized racism that i grew up with was horrendous and to this DAY i am still trying to learn and better myself and connect with my culture in any way i can. because in a black ans white world, where is the space for those of us that dont fall under either? we are ignored and erased and with b’elanna is has been the same

the rejection b’elanna had to her klingon side was something i could relate to incredibly. but it still isnt enough. because even though i could connect with her through her klingon-ness, her latinidad is simply a label. throughout the show you see her change and grow and assimilate to the federation standard and it HURT. the narrative that i was directly picking up from her story was yeah you can be a part of the club but only if you do it how we want you to do it. and dont you EVER even talk about being latino unless its to shit on your deadbeat of a father. and i did. i learned how to adapt at an extremely young age. ive been told its one of the things i do best (sad isnt it?)

and okay how do seven and janeway have anything to do with this? well they are the white women who we literally have to conform to and for. thats it period

seven as a character had an amazing opportunity to challenge gender and sexuality because of her story (one that would have been better suited had she been an indigenous woman which ive spoken on before but thats for another post too) and then the people in charge decided that she just HAD to be the sexywoman instead of leaning into just how much she was no longer human and how humanity itself doesnt actually have one right way to be

this narrative is given to us by janeway time and time and time again correcting seven and telling her that seven simply is not himan enough and still has to learn. (things autistic ppl can suuuuuper relate to which is a reason i could connect with seven at all). no matter how you want to look at it (whatever canon you want to decide isnt canon anymore for the sake of a fucking ship) janeway was directly written to be a mentor and mother figure to seven. janeway is there to help her learn when in reality she can never understand what its like to be an outcast within the federation and to take it a step further be part of a eace which is treated with hostility by humans. something b’elanna CAN understand and relate to because at the time of voyager shits still om the rocks between klingons and humans. janeway pushes seven to accept and embrace humanity as if thats the only option seven has to become a better character but its just not true. the story woven between janeway and seven is one of white women and femininity and how to be the perfect white woman and how to be a good lover. by actively ignoring the help and influence b’elanna could have provided for seven to learn and adapt to a majority human world they put all that weight on janeway. something that affects ALL three of them negatively and results in a narrative of “well b’elanna could never understand and relate to seven in a way that matters” which is beyond true because they are so interwoven even unintentionally so. it simply just wasnt taken further and its a true shame

and this isnt even touching on how badly seven’s actress was treated by janeways actress for being the pretty new doll at the time of filming and how that affected how i felt about janeway/seven as a ship (similarly how castle and beckett did not get along behind scenes i could no longer enjoy that show anymore)

i simplified this IMMENSELY and this shit is already long enough as it is so im sorry about that but yeah thats it. also sorry if things got repetitive ive been told i tend to do that when i write. these are my feelings and i am a real human behind this account so keep in mind how you react to this post. i have recieved countless hate anons most of which ive deleted throughout my short lived time as a fan of this franchise. i used to be MUCH more vocal about representation within star trek and people got mad so i left. but im back because the people that love b’elanna and that love that i have things to say about her matter so much fucking more than any angry person ever will

#to add a lil statistics to it b7 barely breaks 200 fics on ao3 and numbers like that classify them rarepair within a fandom as big as trek #AND I BARELY TOUCH ON THE SHIPPING ASPECT TOO LOL #b’elanna torres #seven of nine #captain janeway #star trek voyager

[onlythejaneway]

In a windowless hotel room three floors beneath Leicester Square, one that offers just the sense of spare, artificially lit luxury you might expect in a Star Trek captain’s ready room, Kate Mulgrew is in command.

It’s 21 years since she ended her seven-year stint as Captain Kathryn Janeway in Star Trek: Voyager, the first female lead in the show’s history. Since then she has had another seven-year TV role, playing the volatile chef Galina “Red” Reznikov in the prison drama Orange Is the New Black. Still, though, aged 67, she speaks with the sort of formidable composure, tangible strength of will and crisp diction that marks out a truly distinctive, highly effective Starfleet officer.

Whoever else she plays, she knows that Captain Janeway defines her. “She resides within me,” she says of a role that she has reprised for a new animated spinoff, Star Trek: Prodigy. This Janeway is a hologram, helping the protagonists of this youth-orientated series when they abscond with a Starfleet ship and, as is the way of the Trek universe, encounter strange civilisations while learning valuable life lessons. She also gets to play a non-hologram Admiral Janeway who crosses their paths later in the series.

It isn’t quite being the focal point of a huge show, as she’d been for the second half of the Nineties and as the octogenarian Patrick Stewart has been doing once again recently in Star Trek: Picard. She wasn’t sure about returning to Trek at first. Once she’d made up her mind, though, she could see nothing but advantages. Janeway introduces herself to her young charges in the show as “a hologram based on one of the most decorated captains in Starfleet history, sharing principles of universal liberty, rights and equality”. Conveying such Trekish liberal ideals to a young audience was an important part of the reason for doing it again: “We’re living in a dubious time,” she says.

“I’ve had a real ambition all my life,” she adds. “A strong ambition. One could argue fierce. One that is only now subsiding, really, and it’s time that it should subside because ambitions require a lot of maintenance.” As she talks through the long days and unexpected challenges of becoming a leader of men and women, her oratory is quite something: polished but sincere. Though she was in her late thirties when she got the job, she had little idea of what she was letting herself in for when she joined Voyager in 1995.

“In hindsight that was a good thing. Because if I’d known . . . I had two little kids at home. I was a single mother. It changed everything.” Mulgrew had just divorced her first husband, the theatre director Robert Egan. “Those first few months were unreal. I don’t think I slept. I know I stopped eating. I was smoking 5,000 cigarettes a minute. Work, work, work and then home to study, study, study. Daunting isn’t the word.”

Seeing the impact it had on women, though — such as when the Voyager fan Hillary Clinton invited her to speak to a group of female scientists in Washington — convinced her that this wasn’t just an ego trip, she was a role model. “To see women at Nasa realising that they didn’t just have to go into research, that they could be astronauts too . . . my role really did help change minds, change lives.”

And yet, as she relates in her memoir, Born with Teeth (Life and Style), her two young sons, Ian and Alec, had moments when they resented their mother working so much. She wishes now that she’d had the maturity to tell her boys that she missed them desperately but that she was doing work she loved, that she felt mattered. “I was conflicted, I was vulnerable, I wasn’t quite there yet.”

Mulgrew got the job because another actress, the French-Canadian Geneviève Bujold, spent two days in the role and realised that she wouldn’t be able to sustain the schedule. “Geneviève is a very fine actress. She quit because she knew she couldn’t live a life like that. Her son Jack was a young teenage boy and she wasn’t going to see him at all,” she says. “She made the mother call. My hat’s off. I made the other call. And as it turns out, I was very, very up to Captain Janeway and the more they pushed, the more I found I could do.”

She was a leader on set too — “that was absolutely imperative” — but it didn’t always go down well with her castmates. “I set the tone. I was always word-perfect, I was never once late in seven years, never unprepared, and so a lot of them didn’t like that. Or a lot of them, I think, found that a little too cute. And maybe it was, but when you’re raising two kids, guess what? ‘Let’s go, 300 guys are out there and they want to go home to their kids. Let’s go.’ ”

Finishing her imaginary tour of duty on the show in 2001 did feel a bit, she imagines, like the ending of a real tour of duty: a mix of relief and sadness. “I left with only a great longing to do more.” That more, for a while, was playing Katharine Hepburn in a touring one-woman show, Tea at Five — “a complete flip but every bit as rigorous” — and then other theatre and television roles before Orange Is the New Black from 2013 to 2019. “I loved it. It was an immediate hit, and something so different from Janeway.”

It was fulfilling that fierce ambition as an actress that had begun when she was growing up in Dubuque, Iowa, the second of eight children in an Irish-American family. She had barely started studying acting at New York University when she was dropping out to spend all of her time studying with the acting teacher Stella Adler. Soon afterwards, to Adler’s annoyance, she got a job on the soap opera Ryan’s Hope. She was in her early twenties, successful, living in New York. Then she got pregnant by her boyfriend. She knew there was no future for them and wanted to have the child, but couldn’t see how she could work and be a mother on her own. So she gave it up for adoption through Catholic Charities.

It was a decision that would haunt her for years, even as she had a family with Robert Egan. “I was born with a sense of hope, I think. A kind of essential strength, so I can’t really get into too much despair. If ever there would have been a moment to give in to despair, that would have been it. I didn’t. Sometimes you have to make the right choice. Not the one you’d prefer.”

Much of what follows in her life story, as described in Born with Teeth, has a mixture of high life and difficult choices that wouldn’t disgrace a novel. She turned 21 in Ireland making a film, Lovespell, with a turbulent Richard Burton. “He was divine to me, but only to me. Imagine turning 21 on the west coast of Ireland in a castle, Richard Burton pulling you on his knee and putting a fur coat around your shoulders and putting diamonds in your ears and singing How to Handle a Woman a cappella. A hundred people were at that party, you could hear a pin drop.”

Two years later she played the title character in the Columbo spinoff series Mrs Columbo. She never met Peter Falk, who the producers couldn’t persuade to appear in the show, but that may have been just as well: he was 28 years her senior and found the age gap ludicrous, called it a “criminal act”. She laughs at the memory.

The show didn’t last long but at least gave her an idea of the work ethic required to carry a show, even if Voyager would ask even more of her. And it was during her Voyager stint that she hired a private detective to track down her daughter, Danielle, who had been raised by a couple in Massachusetts. After a happy reconciliation, they have been close ever since. “It’s a relationship that no one could have guessed would have happened in a million years. When I’m talking to my sons, I sometimes feel less familiar than I do when I’m talking to my daughter.”

Danielle is coming to visit her next week for a beach holiday: Mulgrew lives in New York and North Carolina. She has married and divorced a second time, but is happy again with a new partner. Is she finished with marriage? “I don’t want to say anything about that in the press, but I will say that I’m not done with love.” She has other acting work, including a role opposite Chiwetel Ejiofor in the mini-series The Man Who Fell to Earth. Much of her focus at the moment is on writing her first novel, though.

“I want to spend hours writing. I don’t want to spend hours in a dressing room waiting to be called onto a soundstage to play a part that I’m essentially indifferent about. It now has to be either very, very compelling or not at all. I like looking at the osprey as they fly overhead, I have friendships which are important to me, so are my children, I have a two-year-old grandchild. I’m probably enjoying life more than ever.”

And so a chance to play a part she loves . . . but for short stints, in nice recording studios, at sensible hours, with no need for make-up, let alone learning lines? “Oh my God, yes! I dance in there. It’s heavenly. We work, we laugh, and I’m out in three hours.”

The Times 23.6.22

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Star Trek: Voyager But The Caretaker Also Grabbed Ships From A Galaxy Far Far Away

I don't know, maybe the Star Wars Galaxy is in the same direction as the Alpha Quadrant anyway. So, joining Voyager it is!

Aaannnd I've decided in the five seconds I stepped away that Season 4 Ghost Crew + Rex and Kallus is the most interesting.

Hera would tell the rest of her crew that since the Ghost is toast, they're kinda dependent on the Voyager crew to get even somewhat closer to their home, so if the strange people want you to wear their weird uniforms and answer up a chain of command, you go do it. Space mom's orders are to be followed.

I don't think any of them actually become temporary Starfleet personnel, just Civilians like Neelix and Kes. At least at first, they could potentially join down the line. Part of this is they're already part of a command structure, one they'd very much like to get back to, and part of it is they don't know how anything works?

Star Wars and Star Trek technology are very different. Like, warp drives must seem ridiculous from the perspective of people raised on hyperdrives, but replicators are almost more magical than Force powers. Universal translators instead of super annoying protocol droids providing a running commentary? Insane. Wait, what do you mean the murder droid technically qualifies as sentient by your laws, and therefore we aren't allowed to turn him off? That's the only thing that gets him to stop threatening our lives!

Intake physicals reveal, in no particular order: Hera's pregnant (to the surprise of everyone but Kanan), Federation medical technology can restore Kanan's vision (he jumps on the chance to see his family again like a Corellian jumps on a freighter), and the EMH has several potential therapies that could not only stop Rex's rapid aging, but also reverse it (Starfleet ships keep getting hit by aging diseases, temporal anomalies, and weird transporter accidents, they've learned a thing or two after a few centuries).

Janeway's dealing with an internal debate over whether letting the Ghost crew join up is a violation of the Prime Directive or not. They don't have warp capability but their hyperdrives seem to be even better? Does it count when they seem to have bypassed warp tech entirely and instead developed dimension-shifting FTL tech? If the answer is no can she make an exception anyway because the Space Wizards seem useful?

Anyway, I think the Rebels would try to make themselves as useful as possible in order to get home.

Hera has them all studying Federation education modules in their downtime so they can better understand all the new tech. Hera's also practicing flight simulators in the holodeck, because she's never met a ship she couldn't fly and she's not going to let a helm console hold her back.

Her and Tom have a mini feud over who's the best pilot on the ship. If we go by Federation controls, Tom is, but only because he has more experience with them. When Tom builds the Delta Flyer with the classic flight controls, Hera beats him in a race. Easily. He winds up crying on B'Elanna's couch. Then after B'Elanna kicks him out he winds up crying on Harry's couch.

Sabine's basically a tech prodigy, so I don't think she'll have too much trouble understanding the engineering principles behind things. It's more convenient plot wise anyway. Hera has to negotiate with Janeway on her behalf to get permission to paint in certain areas of the ship. Personal quarters, the mess hall, etc., she can paint as long as it's appropriate and not interfering in ship operations.

Sabine, once she gains a sufficient understanding of Federation technology, starts volunteering for shifts in Engineering. It starts with her doing basic maintenance and later as she grows more proficient she starts helping with things like warp core refits. She also starts experimenting with various pieces of equipment, and at one point figures out how to replicate beskar. This is important for later plot points.

Ezra basically gets kidnapped by Samantha Wildman. His whole "connecting to animals" thing? Yeah, the ship's Xenobiologist isn't going to pass up the walking, talking research tool. Also, Ezra could always use more Space Moms. This one just happens to lack protagonist energy.

When he's not helping keep the feral creature of the week from killing the entire crew of the ship, he's joining away missions because having a Space Wizard with a laser sword on your team should just be standard protocol.

Ezra's also the one to figure out there's something wrong with Seska. She always feels slimy in the Force, and cold. She reminds him of several Imperial officers he'd come up against, a sense of viciousness-ambition-hunger that makes the very air in the room feel like poison. His danger sense never seems to stop going off when she's nearby.

He reports the bad feeling to Chakotay, and while a note is made to keep a closer eye on her, it's not like they can really do anything. Until Seska takes an action that endangers the ship and its crew, they cannot take action. How would it look to the Maquis crew if one of their own was locked in the brig thanks to the Wizard Boy's feelings? They'd have a ship-wide mutiny in less than two hours.

Sometimes Tom and Harry kidnap him for shenanigans related purposes, including but not limited to Captain Proton holodeck adventures. Sometimes they include Sabine and her and Tom bond over the crushing weight of parental expectations. Sabine hates the lack of color in the Captain Proton holoprogram, and has taken to programing "color bombs" into it with Ezra's help.

Kanan is Hera's house husband that watches Jacen and tries to stop his space children from having a mental breakdown. (They're all halfway to a breakdown, that's an undercurrent of this whole AU, they just do a semi-decent job of hiding it until it all bursts forth at once, usually at a highly inconvenient time. Except Ezra, he gets mega angsty for a bit.)

Kanan occasionally joins away missions as well. Him and Tuvok kinda bond in a "we're both Space Dads" way. They also kinda low-key hate each other. Tuvok's all about that Vulcan logic and Kanan believes in following the Force. The Force makes no logical sense, and half the time you're relying on your own potentially faulty interpretation of its warnings. They're frenemies. It's fun until Neelix tries to force them to bond.

Zeb helps out in Security. He's also Naomi and Jacen's second favorite babysitter. Him and Neelix have a small rivalry over this.

Also, Zeb's basically Neelix's biggest supporter when Dr. Jarel shows up. Threatens to throw the guy out an airlock if he so much as scans Neelix. (Listen, I'm not saying Zeb and Neelix get drunk one night and cry on each others' shoulders about the Purging of Lasan and the Metreon Cascade's effect on Rinax, but I'm also not not saying it.)

Also, I think it would be funny if leola root tasted exactly like a common ingredient in some traditional Lasat dishes. Zeb basically never uses his replicator rations because his Lasat taste buds find so much of Neelix's fare to be downright pleasant. Basically Zeb in this AU is a giant murder machine who enjoys Neelix's cooking and always has a stockpile of one of the most valuable currencies on the ship. The crew views him as some sort of mythical deity because of this.

Kallus helps Tuvok with threat assessments and the like. Janeway also drafts him to investigate the Maquis crew, sniff out potential bad actors so that a closer eye can be kept on them. It's thanks to this Lon Sudar is caught and given psychiatric help before he can go full Lon Sudar.

Once Kes sets up the Aeroponics Bay Kallus starts to basically live in there. Neelix does a whole segment on it for his morning show, "Stressed City Boy Learns Joy Of Gardening". It's a big hit for the audience of two (Samantha and Zeb).

Rex is everyone's grandpa. Seriously, he just is. Before his aging is fixed to what it should be, he's like an armored Santa Claus. Even after it's fixed most of the crew can't really get the image of Grandpa Rex out of their heads. He tells the best stories about his brothers, and about his Jedi General and Commander.

Over drinks one night in the holographic bar though, Rex's stories...morph.

Halfway through a story about when Fives and Echo tried to explain to a shiny why you shouldn't enter any room the General and Senator Amidala were in alone without knocking, he just breaks down and starts crying about how Fives had been shot by a brother. How Fives had tried to save them all, and how he'd paid for it with his own life.

A story about General Skywalker getting ambushed with glitter by an Initiate Clan is interrupted by a tear-filled rendition of the March on the Temple. It's awful and heartbreaking and it's only made worse when Rex reveals he heard the story from a freshly dechipped brother, one who'd only been a shiny at the time of Order 66. A brother who after a single day without the endless drone of "Good soldiers follow orders" buzzing around his skull decided to eat his own blaster. The kid hadn't even picked out a name yet.

After that, people tend to tread on eggshells around him for a bit. It's just, it's a lot. For what feels like the millionth time since they first got stranded in the Delta Quadrant, Janeway curses whoever at Starfleet Command decided the original mission was too short to justify a ship's counselor.

Chopper, he likes exactly three members of Voyager's crew and they are Samantha Wildman, Naomi Wildman, and Seven of Nine when she shows up. Chopper finds himself unable to hate Samantha because she's simply too nice, and Hera seems to like her (they're pregnancy buddies). Then she produces her offspring, and Naomi's a good child who helps Chopper and Jacen pull pranks on the crew.

Then there's Seven. Seven, who post-Borg happens to agree with Chopper on a lot of things. At least until she learns about morals and stuff, and gets in touch with her human side. But by then the murder-bonding has been completed, and Chopper counts her as one of the "do not murder" organics.

Also, the Universal Translator is able to translate Binary, which is...just fantastic. Chopper hates it, because now he can't slyly insult people in a language they don't understand. Eventually someone, possibly B'Elanna, takes pity on the children and Harry and shuts down translation of anything Chopper says.

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Caretaker Part 3

Scene 18 Voyager have you no shame?

Nooooo not Neelix in the bathtub! No, Voyager, no!  Notice how often Tuvok ends up with Neelix.  Maybe Janeway has it out for him.  And here I thought only the captain had a bathtub, huh. Do the others take baths? I can see Harry with a rubber duck.

Tuvok says "No uniform for you, Neelix, just the criminals get that.  Find an ugly couch."

I decided to spare us all and not show Neelix bathing. This is the array thingy, I forgot to show it before.

Scene 19 The Bad Hair Aliens

Away team lands on a lovely desert planet and meets the Kazon.  The Kazon found out how to use technology like spaceships but are stumped on the whole water thing.  Like could you maybe find water on another planet that is fit to live on?  You think?

Kazon: The bad hair villains

As you can see, Neelix is popular with all.

Kes shows up beaten up.  Neelix shoots a phaser.  He’s competent with firing except oh he nearly got the away team (including the captain) killed by lying to them, but no matter. The Kazon are overcome in minutes when one of their big jugs of water is shot at, and go dashing off like cartoon chickens.

I always hear "Yakety Sax" during this scene.

Scene 20 Love to stay but . . .

(Ocampaville) Harry and B"Elanna are shown escape tunnels by Ocampa tired of not having HBO.

Scene 21 He who shall one day take over Voyager

(Sickbay)Tuvok: Gee, Neelix if you’d told us you wanted to rescue Kes that might have helped us.  Neelix: Don’t be stupid Tuvok!  Then the holographic new Doc says:

He gets some of the best lines cause his actor adlibs a lot.

Scene 22 Pixie leaves shade

(in Ocampaville): Go, Kes, give that boss man hell!  I did not remember her being so feisty.  Why did she put up with jealous controlling Neelix?

Get 'em, girfriend!

Scene 23 Poor Harry

Harry and B"Elanna still trying to escape. They have nicknames for each other ("Starfleet" and "Maquis") that they still occasionally use later. (Continuity?) 

Many, many times, Harry.

Scene 24 Movin' on up, to the top

Janeway, Tuvox, and Chakotay are in Ocampaville and - are they riding an escalator? 

Janeway: Okay boys, remember we are buying you pants today!

The array is acting wonky, Tuvok’s like "Oh, hey I think the Caretaker dude is dying." and Janeway’s like "How do we get home then?"  Ah don’t worry about it.

It's definitely an escalator. When did they get to Sears?

Scene 25 OSHA compliant tunnels

(Underground Ocampaville) It's nice that the tunnels have stairs with handrails. For safety. Tom says Harry is his only friend and Harry’s like I am? Their friendship will become one of most endearing relationships on the show. No sarcasm for once.

Harry's response: I'm you're friend? That's right Harry, Tom said so.

Scene 26 Command Team goes shopping

Back at the mall, Janeway and others figure out the transporter isn’t working again because psychobabble.

You can't convince me this wasn't filmed at a mall. Janeway: I said, no stopping for snacks, Tuvok! Keep up!

Scene 27 Tom to the Rescue

(Under Ocampaville)  In case of Earthquake, take stairs.  Tom has a really big flashlight.  Starting a landslide gets you out this time.  Tom reaches the top - yay I made it up to hell.  Big boom.  Janeway and the others are still in the tunnels (they got out of the mall) so they are in trouble so Tom’s like "I might as well rescue them. Maybe I’ll get to fly the ship!"

Scene 28 Really, Really Sorry Native Americans

(Under Ocampavile).  Chakotay’s leg is broken, but Tom rescues him from the stairs. Tom says Chakotay’s an Indian so he owes him a life debt for saving him and then asks Chakotay if he can do Indian tricks and turn into a bird fly and them out of there and I am not making this up. I am just SO SORRY Native Americans, wtf?

Remember back when Tom was really, really racist?

Scene 29 Meanwhile back on the heavily torn up ship . . .

(Back on Voyager)

Oh, hey, the ship cleaned up nice really fast! Must be the space fairies.

Red alert! They need to go back to array thingy - wait, where am I?  Jabin of bad hair says array thingy his.  Chakotay goes to hold off the Kazon on his tiny ship.  Janeway tells Tom to take the helm cause he’s been good for a day or two so you know.

Even Tom is like "Wait, seriously?"

Scene 30 No More Banjos

(On array) Janeway hears a banjo and is like "Jam it!"  Caretaker says he’s been bringing entire ships to the delta quadrant to find a compatible mate (not making this up) and the people get sick because they are not compatible maters. 

Question for the Caretaker: Like ever think of just finding them a better planet away from the Kazon and stocking it up and stuff?  Wouldn’t that be easier?

Caretaker feels guilty because oops he messed up the Ocampan's atmosphere with his tech so he decides to take care of every need the Ocampans have because they are “like children” (ick?) and according to him have the brains of goldfish.

Scene 31 Always think ahead, Chakotay

(Voyager) - The Kazon are dumb but they do know how to make the weapons on their ship work.  A Starfleet guy falls and takes a bite of railing with his teeth.  Ow.  They don’t have enough firepower so Chakotay says "Eh I’ll ram my ship into them and think about where to live later."  And Tom reminds him he still owes him.  Again. Chakotay beams out before boom.

I guess Chakotay was counting on Janeway keeping them on Voyager cause otherwise this would have been a very dumb idea.

Scene 32 Anyone up for Jello?

Tuvok says" Hey Cap, we can get back to Federation space." and he just knows Janeway is not going to listen.  I bet Tuvok would have taken everyone back.  The Kazon will kill all of the Ocampa if they leave more tech for them to screw up but won't the Ocampans have to come out sometime and who will protect them then and you know, nevermind.  The Caretaker becomes a jello mold, and then a rock. 

Maybe the Caretaker should have concentrated on jello mold like creatures for mates.

Scene 33 Wouldn't you like to see this out your window?

Janeway decides to destroy the array.  The only one with enough energy to protest is B'Elanna.  Chakotay is like "Whatevs" because he blew up his own ship and wants a place to live.

I’m just thinking the guys on the lower decks have to be wondering, "Huh, what’s that array and why’d it explode?  Wonder when we’re getting home.  Wait, what?"

Scene 34 I Miss Molly

(Janeway’s ready room.) There is a pic of Mark and Molly the dog and her on her computer.  Heck with Mark, she’s abandoned her DOG people!  She tells Tuvok she’ll get them home because she’s starting to wonder about that decision to strand everyone without their knowledge.  That won’t cause her any guilt later.

New canon from my daughter - Mark is a secret agent hence his basic name. Someone needs to run with this on a fanfic.

Scene 35 You know how you quit Starfleet for a cause? Too bad.

Janeway tells Tom she asked the Maquis to join them instead of trying to fit them into their cells for 75 years.  How did that many Maquis get on one tiny ship? 

Chakotay's ship compared to Voyager. And there were like thirty of them on there at least? I think?

Janeway makes Tom a Lt. and ship pilot which is totally fair even though she’s just promoted him over Harry and wtf doesn’t Tom have a record? Should there be a trial run maybe? 

They mention Chakotay’s life belongs to Tom again.  Also Chakotay is now first officer in order to promote the Brady bunch theme of togetherness.  Chakotay is a good fit because he has experience and he didn't get kicked out of Starfleet. He just chose to leave because he hates them all. Chakotay and Janeway will totally be the parents of this ship.

This HAS to be a major theme in upcoming episodes.

Scene 36 Can we come too?

Neelix and Kes want to be part of crew.  Neelix is lucky he’s got his handler Kes or this would never work.

Scene 37 Janeway gives speech - Ayala!

Janeway gives a speech about how it might look like they're screwed, but they've totally got this. 

Ayala spotting!  There he is by Harry! 

Also they are a Starfleet crew cause Janeway says so. And wow, she’s somehow gotten every Maquis into Starfleet uniform ALREADY because conformity solves everything.  No need for them to ease into this or something. 

Chakotay "Yay I am so happy weeee."

And we have a pilot!

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