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Reblog if you support the theory of Judas Iscariot been the Beloved Disciple (sorry John).
🌸 Judas the Beloved 🌸
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nerdyant · 1 year
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One of the Ugaritic snake-bite incantations lists the following divinities with their mountains or cult-sites: El on mount ks, Baal on sfipn (1.100.9), Anat and Athtart on ’inbb (1.100.20); and Dagan at ttl (Tuttul, 1.100.15), Resheph at bbt (1.100.31), Athtart at mr (Mari, 1.100.78) and perhaps Mlk at ‘ttrt (Ashtarot, 1.100.41), Yarih at lrgt (1.100.26), and ZfiZfi and KMT at hfiryth (1.100.36). The Ugaritic texts recogniz a distinction between home and foreign divinities and home and foreign cult-sites. Although Kothar wa-Hasis’s activities of weapon making (1.2 IV) and palace building (1.4 V–VII) clearly take place in the center, he has no mountain as his abode. Instead, he is said to dwell in Memphis and Caphtor (1.100.46), perhaps a reflection of the center of foreign culture and system of trade that brought artisans at Ugarit the materials necessary for their craft.
- the abodes of Ugaritic deities (in The Origins of Biblical Monotheism: Israel's Polytheistic Background and the Ugaritic Texts, by Mark S. Smith)
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azfellco · 9 months
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Crowley before The Fall
Ok, so I love angelology, it's so interesting to me and is one of the main reasons I found out about Good Omens.
We all know Crowley used to be an angel and helped build some nebulas, but that was it from season 1.
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I found interesting this comment from season 2
"You'd have to be a throne or a dominion, or above".
- Muriel (S2E6 07:32)
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Crowley had access to the files, meaning he was a very high ranking angel, let me explain:
In christian catholic angelology there's 9 chorus (types of angels) divided into 3 ranks (being the 1st rank the highest) so we have:
1st rank
• Seraphim
• Cherubim
• Thrones
2nd rank
• Dominions
• Virtues
• Powers
3rd rank
• Principalities (Here's Aziraphale)
• Archangels
• Angels
Considering the duties from the 1st rank and dominions (from the 2nd rank) I consider Crowley was a throne, here's why:
- Seraphim are the caretakers of God's throne, continuously singing "holy, holy, holy", they have 3 pairs of wings and they use one of the pairs to cover their faces from the light of God. "The Burning One".
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- Cherubim protect the entry into the garden of Eden, and they continue to guard holy spaces where God dwells and Heaven and Earth overlap. "The One who Blesses". (Aziraphale has the characteristics of a Cherub, but I'll explain that on another post).
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- Thrones hold the throne of God, they're depicted as great wheels containing many eyes, and reside in the area of the cosmos where material form begins to take shape. They mete out divine justice and maintain the cosmic harmony of all universal laws.
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- Dominions help keep the world in proper order, they're know for delivering God's justice into just situations and help angels in lower ranks stay organized to perform their work well.
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"Let there be matter, let there be gravity, let there be everything from pages 11 to 3,000,602 inclusive".
- Crowley (S201 01:10)
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"I wasn't the original concept designer, but I worked very closely with upstairs on it".
- Crowley (S201 02:10)
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Crowley: Gravity, it's, umm... A thing that happens when objects are pulled together. In this case, they're all pulled downwards because the earth is the largest thing around.
Jim: Why?
Crowley: Honestly, I don't remember. Seemed like a good idea when we were all talking about it.
- (S2E3 16:35)
Crowley made the nebulas Elephant's Tank, Carina and Horsehead (with Saraqael); also helped create the star factory (universe).
Also, at The Fall, some angels from every chorus fell, so it would be no surprise if a throne fell as well.
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lolomidi · 2 months
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Interesting thing I’ve noticed is that Alastor has parallels and contrasts to all three members of the Morningstar family.
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Charlie’s the obvious one, they’re business partners and co-owners of the hotel. They do the same work but for different reasons–Charlie out of a genuine desire to help people out of bad situations and Alastor presumably to help himself out of his own. They share a similar color scheme and formal dress, and they’ve been described as having a shared sense of humor.
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Lucifer is the Sin of Pride, and it’s undeniable that Alastor has that in spades. They’re clearly meant to visually parallel each other, as their outfits are incredibly similar with a couple of inversions (Alastor’s white outline with stripes on his red overcoat vs Lucifer’s red outline with stripes on his white shirt). As are their powers–Lucifer is associated with light, while Alastor seems to wield shadows. You can also notice that Lucifer’s hands in his full demonic form are identical to Alastor’s, black with red claws/tips.
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They’re both attempting to influence Charlie as a father/mentor, Lucifer out of love and Alastor again out of his own desire for freedom. A stag is also a historical representation of Christ (and I will be covering Alastor’s multiple parallels to Jesus in a later post, I’m completely serious), and Lucifer is, well, the Devil from the Bible, which fits with their instant hatred of each other.
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NOW LILITH. LET ME TALK ABOUT LILITH.
We don’t know a lot about her, and what we do know may be told by an unreliable narrator. BUT if we go at least by the broad strokes of Charlie’s opening story, we know that she:
1. Thrived in Hell via broadcasting her voice to the masses
2. Was highly ambitious and danced to her own tune
3. Despises submitting to anyone. (I.e. Adam, and just look at the dirty glare she gives Lute.)
And now, as we see in the finale, she’s currently (possibly trapped) in a deal with a greater power.
Sound familiar?
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Alecto Prediction #11
We’ve seen through Corona that when people from the Houses join Blood of Eden, they receive a new Edenite name. We aren’t told who gave her the name Crown Him with Many Crowns in NTN, but I believe that we will find out that it was Pash. It makes sense if we think about which biblical figure Pash correlates to: John the Baptist. In baptism, a person is christened with a name, just like Corona was christened Crown. But John the Baptist is called the Baptist not just for baptizing the average Tom, Dick, and Harry. He also baptized Jesus. And we have a perfectly good lesbian Jesus ready in the wings to ask to be baptized.
This is why I believe that Gideon/Kiriona will join BoE and Pash will give her a new name.
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puddleofpins · 2 months
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I’m not exactly a huge fan of Hazbin Hotel, because I don’t really like the creator, though there are some aspects to the show that I like.
I’ve seen the whole show along with most of Helluva Boss, but now a question has been tugging at my mind like crazy:
If Vivziepop uses biblical/traditional Ars Goetia names for demons (Ozmodeus, Mammon, Belphegor, Beelzebub, including Lucifer, a fallen Angel), why is she using nontraditional/non-biblical names for the angels?
Like why is a high-level angel given such a commonly used human name(Emily)? Ooh sure Sera being a Seraphim is sooooo clever /sarcasm
I can’t tell if this is implying that the highest-ranking/or Biblical angels are missing/absent like god is or if the show is just that uninspired? Like is this intentional that none of the angels have actual angel names???
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cuntyfieddemon · 9 months
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out of EVERYthing this season i wanna discuss more aziraphale and crowley making what they think is the smollest miracle ever and it turning to be the biggest most powerful 'class A' miracle, making both heaven and hell think GABRIEL popped off and did it himself so they just HAVE to send all the archangels AND a fucking legion of demons to manage it, only for both sides to fail against them and not see through the miracle AT ALL so the fucking metatron has to get up from his non existent ass, make himself a body and prepare a plan to manipulate mansplain malewife aziraphale, and make sure the husbands go separate ways so they're less likely to figure out how powerful they are when they actually work together and not for eachother... together, it's only a matter of time before they work it out and start fucking shit up, thus probably becoming the number 1 threat and attack force against The Second Coming, and the metatron knows that. and with couples of angels and demons happening left and right, he can't let the fact that such associations or relationships are not only possible, but also stronger and more powerful than anyone in headoffice. so he lets beelz and gabriel leave, and arranges a lie or a trap to break up aziraphale and crowley and silence the whole thing.
idk what neil is planning for zira and crowley powerwise, but honestly, if he goes with something cliche like "the power of love is stronger than God's will" i will be completely ON BOARD BCZ YOU KNOW WHAT???? what is the ONLY thing that could end aziraphale's and crowley's miracle?? the power of beelzebub's and gabriel's love. beelz recognized the fucking fly and told gabriel to "open it" so it could restore gabriel WITH his memory of beelzebub, thus dissolving the now worthless miracle... that miracle, made possible only bc two beings loved eachother, could only be broken by the only other two beings in love with eachother in this universe. and that makes me so fucking excited* for season 3.
*scared shitless :)
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sukunasbabygirl · 9 months
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I have five thousand thoughts in my head and they are all spinning at a hundred miles per hour, but one of them is specifically about Adam and his alternate behaviours prior to him knowing he’s an alternate.
We know he was a nicer as a person before recent events, but we also know that even two years before he was still a bit… odd. He did take Sarah to an active crime scene and play an audio lure that can best be described as the screams of hell to get a response out of multiple alternates after all.
This particular event is actually linked with the Adam thoughts currently plaguing me.
Adam, when rewatching his moments in the series, does display multiple behaviours that are linked with him being an alternate, most notably the fact he doesn’t experience fear and also him telling Eve things she wished he never did (he does this around the time he starts acting weirder too).
However, another characteristic I noticed is to do with the screaming. In Volume 2, when Adam and Jonah are debating whether to leave or not, a screaming-like, glitching sound can be heard from inside the house. Jonah’s reaction is naturally fear, his desire to leave even stronger than before, meanwhile Adam finds it to be interesting and is adamant on going back in.
The screaming-like sound in question… was used as a lure to get Adam back inside and into the basement. Adam is subconsciously drawn to similar sounds due to his true nature.
I am most certainly reading too deep into this again and this probably wasn’t intentional, alas I’m having fun doing this so I shall simply not be stopped.
Always, have an Adam.
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vivalich · 4 months
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biblically accurate kitamura!
be! not! afraid!
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nose-coffee · 1 year
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an angle that i can't remember anybody pointing out abt Gideon re: christ allegory is the idea of Wake as Mary conscious of what her role entails. Mary conscious of and accepting of the sacrifice her child will be used for.
she's visited by one of god's lyctor's – directly contacted by Mercymorn with an opportunity – and outside her interactions w G1deon, she's the only one of them Wake ever meets. in the bible, the angel who visits Mary is the same angel that directs the wise men to seek Mary and Jesus out in Jerusalem, which adds a more sinister parallel to Mercy being the one to direct G1deon to Wake's location over the Ninth.
Wake has no direct interaction with John/God until after she’s already dead, and therefore Gideon’s conception is, like Mary’s conception of Jesus, almost completely separate from God at all, except that the resulting child will be his biologically (or spiritually in Jesus’ case).
she takes a literal journey while heavily pregnant to reach the Ninth, and has to give birth in less than ideal conditions and surroundings. and the story diverges further from there, because instead of being visited and given gifts for her child’s birth, she’s attacked, betrayed, and murdered before she can complete the mission she did any of this for.
(one could argue that G1deon and Pyrrha’s role in this allegory is both that of the wise men (keeping up three separate identities = three wise men right? g1deon, pyrrha, and the Saint of Duty all visited on her in one form. much to think on) – but also of Joseph (especially given Pyrrha tells John in HTN that she didn't tell him abt Wake's pregnancy because she assumed the child was hers, and upon finding out Gideon isn't hers, she's obviously conflicted abt it, but inevitably settles on wanting to be a parent/parental figure to her despite the truth and the complexities of Wake's actions) but that’s just a whole Can of Worms, because we know very little of what actually went down during their interaction leading up to the airlock, so we’ll just let the concept lie there for the moment.)
Wake conceives, carries, and gives birth to Gideon, the distanced but biological child of God, knowing she’ll be used as a sacrifice, knowing through trial and error that the only viable method for this plan to work is through carrying the child herself. she does it all under the faith that if she does it all correctly, if she works hard enough, toughs it out, it will all be worth it. arguably, she never sees the Tomb fully opened, but she sees it breached.
another fun tidbit from this train of thought is the idea that her niece is named Our Lady of the Passion, a tangential name for the Virgin Mary in some sects of catholicism. beyond death, Wake’s belief in her mission to rid the universe of John and the Houses, her passion, as it were, is once again present in Pash, who is not exactly present when the Tomb is opened, but is around and conscious enough of her connections and roles to realise her dang cousin is also hanging around on the same planet her aunt died on. excited to see whatever dynamic she and Gideon develop in atn, Muir willing.
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Ok, I want to share my own theological theory regardless of why Judas Iscariot was (even now) reviled by humanity.
One could think that's because he sold Jesus out for thirty silver coins, and that's unforgivable. But friendly reminder that Jesus could be along with thieves and prostitutes, and still forgiving them.
Then why Judas could be any different?
Two reasons I could think of:
First is the possibility that Judas Iscariot was romantically in love for Jesus Christ.
Why such thing could be a big deal? We're talking about people living in the 1st century in the Middle East, Jewish people who follows the God's law eagerly and devotedly. We know about the mess it was the Old Testament, who God was rageful and giving harsh and destructive punishment upon humankind for one reason or another.
One of his crimes were the genocide of the twin cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Maybe the people there weren't all bad but of course evil people could still exist. And as mentioned in Lots' story, when God send the angels to check on the local population to see if there's good people living there, they were attacked by a mob. The men wanted to force the angels. The crime here is men forcing intimate activities with other men. And the religious didn't saw those activities as it should be, violence against others who couldn't defend themselves. Instead, they see the whole homosexual relationship as a sin and the only reason why the cities were destroyed at the end. In their thoughts, both cities were doomed because homosexual relationship were a thing, instead of seeing such forced acts as violent action like a murder.
We could see that the Jewish condemns homosexually heavily at the implications of the cities' destruction. How a gay man could live in such oppressive environment? Judged and losing the grace of God by loving in a way the law condemns?
If Judas felt romantic love towards Jesus, certainly it could had frightened him to his core, knowing the cities' tragic fate and reason behind it. Maybe he also followed Jesus in order to fix himself and been more closer to God.
Instead, he fell in love for his Lord.
It could had been excruciating. Even more if Jesus is all loving and forgiving.
And even if Judas could had tried his best to hide his feelings, three years in the group could had alerted the others that Judas is acting differently towards Jesus. They could had suspected that Judas had a secret? Not about been a thief, but something else.
Something more... Sinful.
Maybe when Judas kissed Jesus in the arrest, confirmed their suspicion. And even if Jesus tried to preach about forgiveness and love, the idea of Judas having homosexual feelings for their Lord, their Messiah, was beyond been blasphemous for them. They could had been disgusted by Iscariot, and then (surely behind Jesus' back), they started to spit venom about Judas to their own followers the next years. Of course they couldn't say that Judas was in love for their Savior, could had give them an awful image. That's why they created the whole conception of Judas been a thief and a greedy betrayer. Easier than admitting they had a homosexual apostle among them, and certainly the one Jesus loved the most.
The Beloved Disciple.
They felt special for been chosen by the Messiah himself, unable to accept one of them had some special privileges, and more in that nature (you could see they weren't happy that Mary Magdalene was cared by Jesus, thinking of themselves the only ones worthy of his attention).
The others "reviled" the idea, so convinced that any homosexual man is by default unforgivable by God's law, only because of the story and Sodom and Gomorrah. They hated Judas Iscariot the following decades, then centuries. Portrait him as a greedy betrayer who loved money more than God, and we never argued against that.
And sadly, even in the Bible, Jesus is been among the sinful and welcoming them with open arms and a smile. All kind of sinful people, but you know which group wasn't seen there? The homosexual.
The thieves, prostitutes, tax collectors, even Roman guards and soldiers. Jesus still welcomed and prayed for them. But the homosexual? No sights.
So if Judas Iscariot was a closeted gay man who had to hide his identity for the majority of his life out of fear, suddenly met Jesus of Nazareth, welcomed him on his group, loves him openly and Judas inevitably feel in love for him. And maybe Jesus loved him too in that way, but it had to be a secret.
It could make sense that the other apostles' repulsion towards him make them to portrait Judas as the worst of the worst. And humanity believed them.
It is very tragic and unfair, since Judas had to sacrifice his beloved and their mutual love for humanity's sake.
And the second reason, to make short: to distance themselves from the Jewish who condemns Jesus. And that leads to make the Christians to believe that Judas Iscariot is the perfect example of a betraying and greedy Jewish, leading the antisemitism to rage on for generations.
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ultravioletqueen · 4 months
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¿sabian que en el lore biblico quien mate a leviathan tendra pase al cielo sin importar los pecados de la persona?
esto me hizo pensar que en el universo de hazbin hotel y helluva boss probablemente leviathan tenga que lidiar constantemente con gente tratando de matarle para poder conseguir el pase vip al cielo o invadirlo, pero como es un pecado capital no pueden hacerle frente por su cantidad de poder.
es solo algo que se me ocurrio y me parecio interesante.
Did you know that in biblical lore, whoever kills Leviathan will have a pass to heaven regardless of the person's sins?
This made me think that in the universe of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, Leviathan probably has to constantly deal with people trying to kill him to get the VIP pass to heaven or invade it, but since it is a deadly sin, they can't face him due to their amount of power.
It's just something that occurred to me and I thought it was interesting.
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jubileemon · 23 days
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Original Man Adam Theory
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It's possible that Adam went to Heaven not because he was a virtuous person who abstained from sinning but because of lack of temptation. If we go through the list of deadly sins and biblical account of what happened after The Fall, he couldn't commit any of them. Pride? Of what? He got cowed by God very hard. Greed? Gluttony? Sloth? He is forced to toil away every day for basic sustenance, there is no wealth to hoard, not enough food to gorge on, and if he is lazy, he'll starve to death.
Lust? There is only one woman he can lust over and that woman is Eve. We call that faithfulness in marriage. Wrath? Envy? Again, against whom? The first victim of those is Abel. He does commit every single one of them after death, though.
Rather fittingly, Adam has been shown to possess several of the Seven Deadly Sins from Charlie's time speaking to him. He pridefully boasts about how superior he is at things to people, lustfully talks about how he convinced another angel to sleep with him, mentions that he got annoyed over said angel wanting another one of his band members instead of him (implying he was envious he wasn't her first pick), got angry over one angel getting killed compared to the thousands of demons he kills every year and gluttonously wolfs down a pack of ribs while meeting with Charlie, is the one angel greedily wearing mostly gold clothes (and actually has golden horns as ornaments in his fashion getup), and is too lazy to make an appearance in person, instead using a hologram since he couldn't be bothered to actually talk to the princess of Hell and hear what she has to say. And, again, rather fittingly, because he's an angel, he doesn't see the irony in any of this.
What's even more ironic is Charlie is shown to possess all of the Seven Virtues despite being a demon and the daughter of Lucifer. Again, Adam and Lute are both such petty jackasses that they don't see the irony in this.
In a way, Adam can be seen as a representation of corrupt religious figures: because he's on the side of good, it means he can't be wrong, that he can get away with anything, etc while preaching to others and looking down upon them for their faults, perceived or otherwise. Conversely, Emily represents the virtuous religious figures, being kind, understanding and open-minded to all she meets, yet is quick to condemn legitimate wrongdoing even when it comes from those she previously trusted/saw as good people, even agreeing with Charlie - the Princess of Hell - that Heaven's practices aren't as lofty as they preach.
Ironically enough, that seems to imply Lucifer bringing free will and the creation of hell was. In hindsight, a huge improvement for everybody involved despite appearances. Because evil exists and now people would not be inherently sent to heaven just for preaching loyalty now, people would be capable of understanding evil and choose not to indulge into it. By resisting sin or even learning from the failures, there's now the chance ascended mortals would have a chance of being actually good people who made the right choices even if the process is still far from perfect. Adam is essentially a pampered child coddled from evil, so now he believes anything he does is justified. Has anyone just simply gone straight to heaven without understanding evil, Heaven would be probably just as much of a bad place as hell currently is.
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There's another heavenly mortal within heaven's files: St. Peter himself. Despite being Jesus' apostle, Peter was a victim of many evils in life and also made a fair share of mistakes, with his denial of Jesus being one of the most notable. He had to interact with sin and temptation for all his life and likely also making his share of blunders which he repented greatly. But rather than make him a horrible sinner those events actually made him a stronger, nicer, much more complete person. As such when he's a heaven's gate he's presented as a Nice Guy and very reasonable person unlike the sheltered Adam.
But while Adam says that he never made a mistake in his life, Peter double checks if there was a mistake with Charlie's appointment until he finds out she was correct , and then he proceeds. While it's not explicitly stated, this showcases that Peter is capable of admitting his mistakes. Recognizing a wrongdoing and repenting is a crucial part of salvation.
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emblazons · 1 year
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"We could reshape the world—remake it however we see fit."
One (Henry) & El(even) + Revelation 22:13 Inspired by Jamie Campbell Bower (x)
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atomic-freezer · 1 year
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SELF INFLICTED THEOPHAGY DIVINE FLESH SHIFTS CHIMERICALLY PARTAKE IN VIRTUAL KREOPHAGY DROWN DEEP BENEATH AN ELECTRIC SEA
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remingtoniii · 2 months
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BSD Theory
(Summary at the bottom)
I saw a post (https://www.tumblr.com/sherxplained/743992135434518528/so-long-awaited-fyodors-backstory-asagiri?source=share) that said that Fyodor could have created the abilities, and that's why we see him in the time of the crusades. (I personally thought this was very interesting, and it made me think.) His ability name could have been inspired by that, as he did the crime and must accept the punishment:
Immortality
Whatever punishment Bram Stoker decides on
Being something completely new [will explain] )
So, as we can see, Dostoevsky was caught at Bram's palace. In the newest chapter, Bram orders that he is executed. This leaves us to wonder how Dostoevsky managed to take control of Bram. So, many years later, Bram is under Dostoevsky (but different version). It's clear that Bram has lots of enemies (the Sultan, Rome, etc), as he's accused of being a spy for a few people before his punishment is ordered.
Dostoevsky talked about how Bram is "the Devil", and it leads to a conversation about how both the Devil and humans were created by gods, which "Would it not stand to reason that both are just as cruel?" (Bram Stoker). Clearly, people have been attacking Bram for many years, and he's under the impression that humans are all cruel (we'll have to see how this ties back to the person who looked like Aya Koda). According to the wiki, his cells were mutated due to an ability, which caused him to, you know, vampire it all up in here. My prediction is that Bram was shunned by humanity due to this, and all of the people against him and the vampires are people he has deemed cruel and devilish, like him.
Dostoevsky could have been replaced. Based on the memory that Sigma sees, we can infer that he was lying about the split personality, like he said. The scar on his face most likely didn't heal, so what happened to him? How has he lived this long?
My personal theory is that he is eternally youthful, but when he passes away due to being murdered or however, he spawns in somewhere else, for lack of a better word, completely free of that scar. I think he got the scar by doing something humane, maybe saving a person. In the original Crime and Punishment, Raskolnikov saves a girl early in the book, and wonders why he did it. He later thinks he has no humanity. What if Dostoevsky protected someone, and by doing so, committed a crime worse than mass terrorism, like killing a priest, or some other holy figure? His punishment is to live forever without the thing that reminds him of his humanity.
We don't know his ability, but my bet is that he was shunned by humans for it. There, he turned to the church, believing that as God was the one who blessed him with the abilities, he would still love him. There, he met someone worth protecting, someone who gave him life (My bet is that there is a parallel to irl Nikolai Gogol and BSD Dostoevsky), and he suddenly has someone to live for. Then, something happens, he protects the person, but they no longer think of him as human, or probably start praying while he watches, praying to be saved from Dostoevsky. There, he uses his ability on his friend, killing them. His punishment for the crime is for his humanity to be stripped away. This is also a parallel to Jesus, where he died as a punishment for humanity's sins, but instead of coming back only once (or twice with the rapture), he repeatedly comes back, and every time, his humanity leaves him again, coming back more and more inhuman as time goes on, paying for his own sins.
Now, this is all incredibly farfetched, but these are my own theories and thoughts on the newest chapter.
Summary: Dostoevsky will reincarnate into a new, injury free version of his body as a punishment for his actions before BSD 113
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