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#before you ask no I don't watch netflix shows. I just listen to young the giant like. casually

kdramaxoxo · 14 days

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Sorry if you've been asked this a million times, but who are your favorite couples from the last couple years?

Congratulations Anon! This ask is AMAZING and I've never been asked it before! Shocking right?? :P

My favorite K-Drama Couples 2023- Spring 2024

NOTE: I tried to include 2022 but my list got too long :)

Moving (Bong-Seok & Hee-Soo, Joo-Won & Hye-Won & Doo-Shik & Mi-Hyun): It's very obvious by this list how much I love this drama and how many blorbo-from-my-shows it created for me. And I know I'm only reviewing couples, but I was blown away by this drama. I don't even LIKE superhero shows, but I made an exception for this one and I'm so glad I did. If you like character development and plays on good vs. evil, I highly rec this! Bong-Seok and Hee-Soo are one of my favorite couples EVER and I loved the softness and epic romance of Joo-Won & Hye-Won. (And we all know that scene at the rainy window with Bong-Seok and Hee-Soo). These couples are really EVERYTHING.

Tale of the Nine Tailed: 1938 (Lee-rang & Yeo-Hee): This is the only time I've ever watched a season two and liked it better than season one. It's probably because it featured my favorite tragic half fox Lee Rang and gave him a love line with a mermaid. The two are SO sweet together---SOB!

Tell me That You Love Me (Mo-Eun & Jin-Woo): Wow. Maybe one of the softest couples I've ever seen in existence. Just watching them together was like a warm blanket in front of a cozy fireplace. I didn't like the ending choice which is a shame, but the drama was super well done and I still think people should watch it. There is also a very cute high school couple too!

The Eighth Sense (Jae-Won & Ji Hyun): not to be dramatic (just kidding!) this is the best bl kdrama I've ever seen. Literally this is it! I don't even want to tell you about the couple because I want you to just watch it! I'm dying for the writer to make another one because we need more queer media like this one!

Crash Course In Romance (Haeng-Seon & Chi-Yeol): Give me a noona romance featuring a man who has not felt warmth in 1000 years (ok not literally but this dude needs to have a warm meal made by an amazing lady!) This drama fell apart at the end (this seems to be a theme this year) but the couple makes it worth watching.

King The Land (Gu-Won & Sa-Rang): If you're looking for a low stakes, totally fluffy, rom com with TONS of chemistry (featuring MY BIAS!), King the Land is for you. Amazing skinship, kisses and just like a really fun duo to watch. Plot? Not so much but there are a billion good moments-- just look at the tags: They are full of cuteness.

Love After Divorce Season 4 (Benita & Jerome): Listen, I know I'm cheating by putting a reality tv show on this list but if you're in the mood for one, I highly recommend this season (it's on Netflix). Benita and Jerome will steal your heart and they are still together! I'm rooting for them. <3

See you in my 19th Life (Ji-Eum & Seo-Ha, Da-Hoon & Cho-Won): My bias Shin Hye Sun kills it in this drama featuring past life romance. Honestly it's not fair because this drama is totally my vibe so I'm obviously going to love the mains. But when a drama gives you more than one love line and they are both interesting and lovely?? Chef's Kiss!

Dr. Slump (Jeong-Woo & Ha-Neul): This drama TOTALLY fell apart at the end and left us all very disappointed, but that's not because our leads weren't a perfect couple! They bonded over mental illness and even took their meds together. Communication: check. Comfort/Healing: check. Chemistry: check!

The Story of Park's Marriage Contract (Yun-Woo & Tae-Ha). You probably don't know this but I've been following Bae In Hyuk's career since we was in silly little web dramas. Seeing him as a lead is really wild! To be fair, he's not nearly the actor that Lee Se Young is, but do we care about that when there's a time slip romance drama featuring a historical lady who's been thrown into the future and has to fake marry someone who looks just like her de*d husband for reasons??

Thank you so much for this ask - it was super fun!! Maybe I should do 2022 next?? :D

#kdrama #i love a list #king the land #kdrama recommendations #crash course in romance #tale of the nine tailed #ask #kdrama couple #the story of park's marriage contract #dr. slump

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bellysoupset · 11 months

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Ooooh, given that Leo can cook and Jonah can't...how about he plans a romantic dinner date and accidentally gives them both food poisoning 😈 sometimes fish can have toxins in that will make you sick no matter how well you cook it, but you can't see/smell/taste them to avoid

Oh my! This ended up huge as double food poisoning always does. I'd kill for Leo and I'm pretty sure so would Jon. Thank you for this request it was awesome to write!!

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Cooking for Jonah had been a bold idea, one that Leo was regretting with how nervous he was for his boyfriend's reaction. Jon was one of the most annoying people when it came to food. His picky eating was mild, but what was hard about him was the fact he ate only in the best places. Places that Leo's humble cooking couldn't live up to.

Leo would never say it out loud, but he held Jon's opinion with the highest esteem, so while the compliments were nice, he only truly started to feel accomplished when he watched his boyfriend go for seconds. And then thirds. Leo wasn't sure he had ever seen Jonah go for thirds, not even in the fancy restaurants they went on dates.

He frowned, holding the spoon out of Jon's reach "are you eating so you won't hurt my feelings?"

Jonah snorted, "Fuck your feelings, give me the spoon. This is delicious."

"It's just... Okay," Leo shrugged, plating his boyfriend's third serving, while he still pushed around his own. He had been so nervous about whatever Jonah would think that he had only eaten about half of his first serving so far.

"Wherever did you learn how to cook?" Jonah groaned, eyes closed as he pushed the fish around his plate with the fork, in order to get it covered in cream.

"The poor know how to cook too, Dr. Banks," Leo teased, before shaking his head, "I had to learn how to feed myself young and then I realized that I quite enjoyed it, so..." he shrugged, "I don't know how to make anything fancy, though."

"This is plenty fancy," Jonah mumbled, cheeks puffed as he chewed, "really, Leo, consider dropping out of law and opening a restaurant."

Leo rolled his eyes, cheeks burning, "now you're just egging me on. I'm a way better lawyer than a cook."

"I never saw you lawyer anything," Jon shrugged, "but I have now eaten your food."

"Then eat, stop talking," he scoffed, squirming in his seat. Jonah's eyes lit up with mischief.

"Can't take a compliment?" he asked, voice brimming with happiness, "my boyfriend is a fucking amazing chef, a hottie, a lawyer, a football star-"

"Shut uuuup."

"Adorable too-"

"I'm not listening to you anymore," Leo jammed his fingers in his ears, much like a toddler and Jonah let out a laugh, surprised and genuine.

"Take the damn compliment!"

"Stop talking!"

He was still giddy, feeling a little dazed in cloud nine when they put the dishes away and crawled into bed. Jonah rolled flat on his back, planting a hand on his stomach.

"I ate too much," he grumbled, but he didn't seem upset about it, just stating a fact, "I'd eat more if I could."

"You are being ridiculous," Leo's cheeks were hurting from smiling, as he moved down on the bed, fishing his laptop out of his bag. Jonah didn't have a tv in his room, he was firm believer it was evil, so despite the giant flatscreen in the living room, they watched most of their shows in Leo's laptop that was held up by duct tape.

"Uhm, I don't think so," Jonah groaned, tugging on the elastic of his pajama bottoms and pushing it down. Leo raised his eyebrows, while his Netflix loaded, noticing how bloated his boyfriend's stomach was.

"You really overdid, uh?" he couldn't help the smugness. Jonah rolled his eyes.

"What do you want, a trophy?" he shoved Leo's arm gently, before shifting on the bed and pressing his cheek to the blonde's bicep, "where were we?"

"Rio was being tortured," Leo answered, pressing his cheek to the top of his boyfriend's head and getting comfortable as they started a new episode of Money Heist.

Not even twenty minutes later Jonah shifted again, peeling off of him and rolling on his back. Leo paused, "Jon?"

"Gotta burp, keep playing," now the breathy amusement had finally melted off his voice and it was back to its normal roughness. Leo didn't keep playing.

"Do you have a stomachache?"

"To the surprise of no one," Jonah said bitterly, "I did just eat my weight in fish and cream."

Leo nodded, putting the laptop away on the bedside table, "scoot down, let me rub your tummy."

"No," Jonah shook his head, grimacing as he thumped on his chest and managed to force up a deep, wet belch, "don't touch it, you'll make it worse."

Leo pouted, cringing in sympathy, "do you think tums would help?"

Again he shook his head no, sitting up on the bed and fanning himself. Jonah had sweat clinging to his forehead, Leo noticed.

"Babe... Are you sick?" he planted a hand on his boyfriend's forehead, but there was no fever, "talk to me, what can I do? Would tea help...?"

"No," Jonah hugged his knees, rocking back and forth, "I feel sick, I don't wanna drink anything else."

Leo bit his tongue, worriedly mulling over what he could possibly do to help. While he thought it over, Jonah leaned against the headboard, burping deeply in his fist and groaning.

"Babe, I think we should move this to the bathroom, that didn't sound good..." Leo decided, grabbing Jon's elbow but not forcing him to move. His answer was Jonah nodding in agreement, but not moving, only gulping down again.

There was another wet burp, this one Jonah didn't even bother trying to muffle, his hand moving down to his naked belly. It was puffy, sitting right over the elastic of his pajamas bottom and Leo cringed in sympathy as he heard a whine.

"Jon, c'mon..." Leo urged him, holding his bicep, "up."

With a little effort he managed to get Jonah inside the bathroom and crouching down in front of the toilet. Jon seemed almost out of it with the nausea, forehead pressing to the cold porcelain, "fuck, Leo... I really don't feel well..."

"Just get it up, it's too much food in your poor tummy," Leo explained, rubbing a hand steadily up Jonah's back. The man shuddered, squeezing the toilet.

"No," he spat in the water, "no, it feels off. I feel off..."

Leo felt a chill run down his spine as he considered another possibility: he had given him food poisoning.

He touched Jonah's forehead, but met clammy skin, no heat. Leo gulped down, suddenly nauseous with the idea. Jonah let out another groan and moved forward, bracing the toilet, back arching with a horrible retch.

Leo heard a little moan and then liquid hitting the water, a lot of it. He gulped down, rubbing Jon's naked back, "you're doing great, babe, just get it out..." he mumbled, through numb lips. Anxiety prickled him all over.

Jonah coughed, then reached in with a shaky hand, pressing the flush. His belly was still just as bloated and just as sick, emitting the loudest noises in the quiet bathroom, except for Jon's pained breathing.

"I still feel sick," he groaned, not even bothering to pull away from the bowl, "I don't feel better at all..."

"Jon..." Leo said against his own will. Mentally he started chanting shut up shut up shut up- "could it be food poisoning...?"

Jonah didn't pull back, he only turned his head, cheek resting on the toilet's seat. His hazel eyes zeroed Leo and he quirked an eyebrow, "you tell me, Leo."

Fuck.

Leo felt a whole new wave of nausea and anxiety, "I- I don't know... I did everything right, I swear, I- I cooked the fish, I cleaned it, I used different- different boards... I checked the expiration dat-uurhgp-" he interrupted himself with a retch and Leo slammed a hand over his mouth. The last thing he wanted was to make Jon vomit because he was sick too.

Jonah was frowning at him and Leo shook his head, feeling horrible in all senses of the word, "Jon, please say something-"

Jon didn't answer him, except for turning his head and burping up another gush of pale vomit into the water. He panted, eyes squeezed shut, puke still clinging to his bottom lip, "Leo."

"I'm so sorry, I'm sorry-"

"Leo," Jonah sighed, then gagged again and spat a mouthful of drool, "Leo, calm down."

He couldn't calm down, he had just given his boyfriend food poisoning and after he had eaten all that, after he had praised it so much-

Leo let out a whimper, choking up, "I'm so sorry..."

"It's fine," Jonah groaned, leaning over the bowl again, "fuck..." his throat bobbed up and down and he belched. He removed a hand from the toilet bowl, cradling his stomach and squeezing up another burp.

"Here, let me-" Leo fought to keep his voice steady, scooting up closer and planting his hand over Jonah's, rubbing wide circles. He expected at least a snappish response, but all he got was a sick groan, followed by the noise of liquid rushing up the man's throat.

Jonah nearly missed the bowl with the intensity of the gush, barely able to catch his breath in between the bouts of sickness. Leo wasn't even rubbing anymore, it almost felt like he was simply holding Jon, his hand resting over the swell of his stomach and feeling the angry gurgling inside.

Jon coughed, struggling to breath and wiping the tears that had involuntarily run down his cheek, "Leo..." he groaned, reaching for the flush, but missing, "I really don't feel well..."

"I know, babe, I'm so sorry," Leo said, flushing the toilet and grabbing a wad of paper to wipe Jonah's chin. His heart squeezed as he noticed Jon's chest rising and falling, both hands holding his bloated belly.

"It's still churning..."

"Let me rub your tummy," Leo asked, pulling Jon to lie across his lap, "try and get some rest, babe." He knew it was far from over, so did the other man. Jonah groaned, shaking his head as he braced against the toilet again.

"I can't- I can't lie down, it's all in my... My throat-" he gagged and brought up yet another little stream. Leo patted his back gently, turning his face to blow a small airy burp away from Jonah.

His own belly was hurting, but he was fairly certain in his case it was given to the overwhelming guilt crushing him.

The patting worked and Jonah belched again, then another deep burp brought up another huge gush of vomit, enough to cause him to choke and start coughing like crazy. Leo urged him to sit up straight, patting his back.

"Hey, hey, you're okay, breathe Jon..."

After a scary minute where it felt like Jonah might just choke, he slumped against the toilet, spent and exhausted. This time he didn't even attempt to flush, his chest rising and falling.

"Aw..." he groaned, eyes slipping shut, "hurt..."

"Do you think you're done?" Leo flushed the toilet, before crouching down again and cupping Jon's cheek, "hey, Jon?"

"I don't know..." Jonah mumbled, his lips barely opening, as if his jaw was too heavy.

"Okay, we'll sit here for a little bit more," Leo said, tugging on him and Jonah willingly rested his head on his shoulder, resting a hand over his bloated belly.

"What in hell did you do to the food?" he groaned, rubbing little circles and burping, not bothering to try and muffle it. He felt Leo flinch, but couldn't be bothered to reassure him, not when he felt this awful. Instead Jonah just closed his eyes, gingerly cradling his aching belly.

They sat there for the longest time, but just as Leo was about to ask if they could go back to bed, Jonah let out a groan and hiccupped, lurching forward and almost missing the bowl entirely.

Leo squeezed his eyes shut, swallowing in thickly. He wasn't sure if this was all just anxiety anymore, after all, he had eaten too... Just a lot less than Jonah.

Instead of saying anything, he opted for keeping a steady hand on his boyfriend's back, breathing slowly through his mouth and glaring at his lap. The usual ratty tanktop he wore for bed was clinging to his stomach and Leo tugged at it, not liking one bit the sensation of the fabric hugging him.

"I think I'm done..." Jonah rasped out, grabbing onto the sink to hoist himself up, "I need to lie down, I'm lightheaded."

"You need to drink water," Leo said, flushing after him and filling up a cup, before following Jonah into the room, "c'mon, take just a little sip for me, Jon."

"So you can poison me again?" his boyfriend scoffed, the joke missing its mark my a mile as Leo's heart sunk even further. He couldn't believe he had messed up this badly.

"Just... Just take a sip, I'm gonna grab you a bowl," Leo mumbled, refusing to meet his eyes. He felt overwhelmed and sick and his head was throbbing, his stomach was pulsing with nausea and he had fucking poisoned them both.

Leo sniffled, bracing against the laundry room's cabinet, reaching for the bucket. He had made Jonah terribly sick, all because he had wanted to show off and do a fancy dish.

"Leo...?" Jonah called from the room and the blonde sucked in a breath, wiping away the tears from the corner of his eye. No time to be a baby, he could feel guilty and dumb about this tomorrow.

"Here..." He said, planting the bucket right under Jonah's side. His boyfriend didn't even bother looking, an arm thrown over his eyes, blocking the bedroom light, while the other hand was planted to his bloated stomach.

"Turn off the lights," he asked and Leo obeyed, crawling into the bed, only to have Jon groan with the movement and gag again.

"Please don't move the bed, Leo."

"Sorry," he whispered, curling up on his side, "do you want me to-" he touched Jonah's hand over his belly and then felt as the other man pushed his hand away.

"No, I just want to sleep."

"Okay..." Leo forced the words out, blinking quickly to stop the sting of tears in his eyes. He needed to get himself on check.

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When Jonah woke up again, the room was still pitch dark and his stomach was aching fiercely, rolling from side to side. He let out a groan, turning on his side and blindly reaching for the bucket.

He could still taste the cream and all it took was a weak cough from him in order for the rest of dinner to come up, splashing in the bucket with a disgusting noise. Jonah grunted, gagging as a cramp seized his belly, forcing up another thin stream and then only empty heaves.

Once he was done, spitting the taste out of his mouth, he noticed Leo hadn't said a thing. Had he even woken up?

Jonah lowered the bucket back down, wiping a hand over his face and grabbing the glass of water, as he sluggishly turned around to face Leo... Except his side of the bed was empty.

"Leo?" his voice broke over the one syllable word and Jonah took the smallest sip of water, struggling to get up. He was drenched in cold sweat, it was disgusting. He walked to the bathroom, but it was empty and dark, the door open.

Jonah frowned, all the more confused now. Had Leo left in the middle of the night? Without saying anything?

His stomach gurgled unhappily at all the movement and Jonah muffled a sick burp against his fist, but he knew that by now he was empty, if the sore muscles of his belly meant anything.

"Leo..?" he was so fucking queasy and tired, Jonah felt a pang of anger and hurt at the idea of Leo simply leaving. He walked the rest of the hallway and then frowned, as he noticed a lump on the couch.

Jonah sat down at the foot of the couch, confused as he noticed Leo rolled onto his side, shirtless, just his shoulders going up and down with deep breaths.

"Leo," he called, unsure now if he even should wake him up, but craving the comfort enough that he was willing to be this selfish, "wake up."

It took him a second, Jonah's hand coming to shake his thigh lightly, before Leo groaned and rolled onto his back, rubbing his face, "Jon...? What- Hey..." his voice softened, blue gaze turning all wet and sad, "how are you feeling?"

"Wretched," Jonah answered truthfully, "what are you doing in the couch? Was I moving too much?"

"No, you were fine," Leo shook his head, yawning. Outside, the sun had just started to peak out and Jonah vaguely thought he'd have to call in sick, there was no way he was going anywhere with how sloshy and nauseous he felt, "I just didn't want to wake you up or make you sick again, that's all."

"Make me sick...?" Jonah felt uneasy for a different reason now. He took in the situation, how ghostly white his boyfriend looked, his normally flat belly peaking over his baby blue boxers, the way his blonde hair was matted down by sweat, "oh shit, Leo, are you sick too?"

"I poisoned the food, Jon, what do you think?" Leo snapped back and the sharpness startled them both. Leo cringed at his own tone.

"It was an accident," Jonah frowned, "you didn't mean to do whatever is it that happened to the food, it's fine... Where's your shirt? It's freezing in this living room."

"Laundry," Leo made a face, "I couldn't get up fast enough."

Jon's heart squeezed. Fuck, "you got sick on your shirt? Baby, you should've woken-"

"So you could puke too?" Leo rolled his eyes, leaning forward on his knees and rubbing his temple, "I'm sorry, I don't mean to be snapping at you, I just... I feel horrible and I poisoned us both and you were in a state and- And you were mad at me and I get it, because it was my mist-"

"I wasn't mad at you, are you crazy?" Jonah scoffed, moving closer, "I know you didn't mean to make us sick, Leo, don't be stupid... And I know I'm useless when you're sick, but- But I still wanted to be there for you..."

"You seemed mad," Leo shrugged, not meeting his eyes and Jonah shook his head, leaning back against the couch and moving as close as he could with the way his boyfriend was sitting. Which wasn't much, considering Leo had his back to the arm of the couch and his knees drawn up to his chest.

"I wasn't mad, I was just sick," Jonah sighed, squeezing his knee, "are you mad?"

"No," Leo scoffed, then his stomach gurgled unhappily, interrupting them both. He opened a small, pained smile, "okay, maybe a little."

"Why are you angry?" Jonah fought a yawn, planting a hand over his own upset stomach, while the other he kept in his boyfriend's knee, "baby?"

"Just... I was feeling awful and you were angry - Well, you seemed angry," he corrected himself when Jon opened his mouth, "and I know I was the one who poisoned us, so really I shouldn't be demanding anything, but-"

"I'm sorry," Jonah interrupted him, "I'm sorry, I didn't want to be a dick to you. I should've realized you weren't feeling well either, I'm sorry."

Leo let out a groan, before moving on the couch and all but throwing himself on Jonah, hugging him tightly, "I'm sorry I made you super sick."

"That was on me for eating three plates," Jonah squeezed him back, grimacing when just the thought made him want to gag, "baby, maybe let go off before I puke again."

"Sorry," Leo sniffled, pulling back, "and I am so-"

"Stop saying that," Jonah cut him off, "how's your stomach?"

"Off," Leo shrugged, "I feel really sick, but I can't seem to vomit. You?"

"Sore, queasy... Empty, tho, I hope," Jonah rubbed the top of his stomach, fingers digging in and coaxing up a little burp, "do you wanna go back to bed? It's freezing here."

Leo bit down on his lip, shaking his head, "I think I'll just stay here. I really don't feel well, so-"

"I don't care," Jon frowned, "please, stop worrying about me, I want- Come to bed."

Leo's face lit up, "are you sure? I'm serious, Jon, I think I'm gonna puke-"

"Whatever," Jonah sighed, "I can't puke anymore anyway, I'm empty. Come to bed, love."

Leo nodded, in the living room that was slowly turning pink, even his greenish pale face looked blushy, "Okay..." he smiled timidly, "alright, let's go back to bed."

#sickfic #emeto fic #food poisoning #leo wagner #jonah banks #mywriting

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myst3ry-pl4nt · 2 years

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i could not help myself....

also these clips were taken from various videos from here and youtube since nick and netflix wouldn't let me screen record so i'm sorry </3

ramble undercut!

this is a lot of nonsense so i apologize

i don't have many thoughts but i do know that this is one of the best recent animated series i've seen in such a long time. i'm someone who typically just rewatched the same four series and call it a day, that being code lyoko, digimon, wakfu, and whatever i might end up hyperfixating on suddenly. i don't watch new animated series often unless it's with friends, young justice being the only one i actively watched and enjoyed. i don't think it's the best since rewatching rottmnt but it's definitely really good! i love both series separately and for their own reasons, YJ for the more serious and grim tones and ROTTMNT for literally everything. i'm really glad to be able to even watch this series and that it's on netflix, i had never watched season 2 because i just simply forgot like an idiot and then the movie came out! and so i binge rewatched the series after watching the movie with a friend and the movie was just fantastic! i won't get into any spoilers but genuinely it lived up to the hype and i could only ask for me! i showed a bit of the series through clips, images, and conversation to my sibling and they seemed intrigued by it which may not mean much but we're both adults, me being 18 and them going to be 22 and doesn't usually engage in things i like with interest. being able to find a space to just talk about this series means the world, and expressing things i love is something i find most meaningful. the fandom genuinely feels like such a safe space. minus how i still don't know if using the hearts paired (❤️💙💜🧡) is a shipping thing or just something fans do for support, i've had nothing but positive experiences so far! i haven't had this much fun with a series to this extent in a while and it's genuinely just so nice. my dad was huge into TMNT when it first came out and i've talked to him about the series before, he seemed more confused and entertained by the zaniness of it than wanting to sit down and watch it but hey! it's still meaningful to me! also?? the representation?? CANON autistic donnie and CANON adhd mikey?? in MY tmnt show? hell yeah !!!! it makes me so happy to be able to actually feel security in relating to characters and not feel like it's insulting? this video is best of talking about what i mean so i genuinely do think you should give it a watch or listen!! anyways i guess what i'm saying is i love ROTTMNT and i cannot recommend it enough nor will i shut up about it right now

#rottmnt #rise of the tmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt leo #rottmnt raph #rottmnt donnie #rottmnt mikey #rottmnt april #rottmnt splinter #rottmnt draxum #baron draxum #mysteryplant talks

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mikrrokosmos · 5 days

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Hi! This is going to sound kind of random, but I am writing a paper about the translation of Korean honorifics in subtitles, and I just saw your post from like a year ago mentioning how "hyung" is translated as "bro" in subtitles. So first off THANK YOU because I have been looking for a good example of that for a while now and I've finally found one thanks to you. Secondly, is there any more you can tell me about how "hyung" is translated as "bro" in "Bloodhounds" (or any other drama)? And, just to clarify, are the characters in "Bloodhounds" related or not related?

Anyway, thanks again, and sorry for the long ask about a show you probably haven't watched in a year.

Hi! Of course I don’t mind talking about it! I’m actually super excited that you asked me about this, as I love linguistics and translations and always find it a fascinating topic.

I feel like I should make a disclaimer that I am not Korean and don’t speak Korean, so everything I know about the language and culture is just from what I’ve observed from watching kdramas and listening to kpop for years. I am open to correction if I get something wrong, and I would suggest checking out the blog @consigliere-vincenzo, as I believe she is/knows Korean and provides translations for dramas! (She’s also just, a really cool blog <3)

(Also, since I don’t know the Hangul alphabet, I will be using the romanized spelling for the translations. Romanized spellings can also differ, and there's no 'correct' spelling for each word!)

Korean, like many other languages like Dutch and Japanese, is a language structured around respect to those around you, largely dependant on age, and is shown with the usage of honorifics. Honorifics like agasshi (refers to a young woman, though you're unsure of her age) and ajusshi (in reference to an older man, usually middle-aged; and ajumma, which is the female equivalent) all showcase respect; and to not use any honorific would come across as rude. (In formal language, suffixes such as -ssi and -nim are used, as well as different words all together, but I won't be touching on those since I don't speak Korean and they are harder to pinpoint!)

Honorifics like oppa, unni, and hyung are a bit different, since they're more affectionate in nature. Oppa is mostly by a woman for their older brother, but can also be used for a boyfriend. Unni would be what a woman would call her older sister, or a sister-like figure/friend. Hyung would be the male equivalent of this; what a man would call his older brother, a close male friend.

To answer your question, the main duo in Bloodhounds (Gunwoo and Woojin) are not related by blood!

In the scene where they are talking in a restaurant and find out each others ages (Netflix won't let me screenshot, but starts approx. 22:10 in ep1, and this is the only gifset I can find) is probably the best scene to illustrate the use of hyung in their dynamic. Before this, we can assume that the characters think they are the same age (in Korea, it is normal for two people who are born in the same year to become friends, since no honorifics based upon age are needed, so a sense of familiarity is immediate). When Gunwoo finds out that Woojin is in fact two years older than him, he apologizes (for not using formal language). Woojin then finds out that Gunwoo's role in the military (when they each did their service, as every able-bodied Korean male is required by law to do) was a higher station than his, he also uses formal language, calling him hyung-nim (if I am hearing correctly, since Netflix is HORRENDOUS for translating honorifics properly). Gunwoo wishes to use 'casual' tone with Woojin and just call him hyung, but Woojin's also using honorifics creates a humorous dynamic, since older men are not required to use such honorifics with those younger than them. This conversation is a great showcase of their characters, and how their different personalities play into how they act around each other (Gunwoo's more reserved and polite persona, and Woojin's more loose and free-willed personality).

It is near impossible to understand this underhanded joke with just the subtitles, as so much gets lost in translation, especially since English is not an honorific-centred language. Unni *does* technically directly translate to 'sister,' and hyung to 'brother,' but it comes across as janky sometimes, since English-speaking people don't casually call each other that (you know that complaint about how it's bad for siblings in books/movies to be like 'hey sis'/'hey bro' since no one talks like that? Yeah.) Shortening the term to 'bro' doesn't really help matters, since I haven't heard anyone use the word 'bro' unironically . . . ever? So what is originally a natural and affectionate word and can carry great meaning depending on context (like if a character was dying, and used hyung in his last moments when he has never referred to a character like that before) easily becomes cheapened with translation. They can also try to subsitute some honorifics with 'sir' (like they do in Bloodhounds), but it kinda carries the same effect.

The usage of the term hyung, or any honorific, can be found in any kdrama ever. A great example I can think of is in The Eighth Sense, which is a BL (BoysLove, which is just a genre of Asian dramas that are queer love stories).

In a scene of The Eighth Sense (at 34:47 in ep2 on Rakuten Viki) Jihyun accidentally calls Jaewon hyung, and not sunbaenim, as he was told to do. Since Jaewon is Jihyun's elder in the club they are both in, it would be more appropriate to be called sunbaenim, which is an honorific for those in an academic or work setting. Using hyung is more intimate, and insinuates a stronger bond of closeness rather than the polite sunbaenim.

I hope I answered your question and was able to elaborate on this properly! I am so sorry I didn't answer this right away, I hope this was helpful! If you have any further questions feel free to ask, and I will do my best to answer as correctly as I can.

#answered asks #i know this got kinda long akjdfs sorry!#i really hope i conveyed everything properly #since its kinda hard to just briefly talk about something like this since there are so many surrounding context about culture and such #i hope the links to the gif sets are working!

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G: Hello, it's Grey.

C: Hello, it's Crystal.

G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, a Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen the show several times...

C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.

G: Both Asian. So for today's episode, we will be discussing Season 4 in general. This is gonna be our Season 4 ender, and some Season 5 expectations as well. So for today's episode, we actually have our very first guest in the podcast. [C: Whoo! [claps]] This is Manika from I've Been Meaning to Watch That. Manika, would you like to introduce yourself to everyone?

M: Yes, I would. Hi, everybody. My name is Manika. Like Grey said, I am from the I've Been Meaning to Watch That podcast. It's a podcast that I created and I host every other week. Well, every single week I have a new guest, new topic, and we talk about, you know, all things under the sun. My newest episode is gonna be about Mean Girls, where we talk about the 2004 film, the 2015 musical, and then the newest musical, and we do like, a breakdown of it.

C: Yeah. Aren't there actually lesbians in the new one? I've heard that are actual lesbians in it. [G: Hell yeah.]

M: Yes. Yes. Janice is confirmed queer. We love to see it. And Renee Rapp loves to talk about how Regina George, to her, is gay, and I support it, so, you know, there's that. And I think the week before that, we did an episode about Yellowjackets and The Wilds. So there's a lot for you guys to listen to. Feel free to check us out wherever you get your podcasts

C: I've watched Yellowjackets. I haven't watched The Wilds. But anyway, yeah.

M: It's a good show. It's interesting.

G: Okay. So before we actually start our usual Season 4- season ender format, I want to ask you first, like, what is your background as a Supernatural watcher?

M: So I started watching Supernatural when I was fairly young. To be perfectly honest, I used to catch episodes of Supernatural just randomly on the WB back when it was the WB. And then I started watching like, reruns on TNT. And I didn't really know that much about the show, and it wasn't until my family got Internet, when I was 13 years old, like, Internet and cable, that I was able to like, fully start watching the show. Like, I started watching from beginning to, you know, the current season that was running, and I think it was Season 8. So from there, I would watch every single- I watched the seasons live as they happened on the CW, or I'd watch on cw.com, [C laughs] and suffer through their three-minute commercials, which I feel like are longer than the commercials on TV. But I would, you know, watch the current season, then it ends, I go back to the beginning on Netflix and watch all the way through. And, you know, Netflix only puts a new season of Supernatural, like, a month before the new season airs on the CW. Yeah. And that's- I mean, that's really my experience with Supernatural. And also, I was a Tumblr girl, so I was already deep in it. And then, when a certain somebody, you know, was fridged in Season 10 of Supernatural, that's when I stopped watching it, and then they brought the nephilim in Season 13, and then I was like, "You know what? Let me give it a chance again." And they announced it was ending Season 15, so it's like, "It's time for a rewatch." And so I am kind of a Supernatural expert, but, you know, maybe on an intermediate level. I know a lot of Supernatural, I would say.

C: Yeah, I don't even know who got fridged in Season 10, so. [laughs]

G: You should! It's our favorite-

C: Hey! I'm supposed to only know about this from social media. Don't tell me! [G laughs]

G: But this is like, a thing. It's surprising that you don't know about it. I think if I told you, you'd be like, "Oh, okay." I think you just don't recall the specific season that it happened, but you know it happened for sure. [M laughs] [M: Right.]

So that's very interesting, actually. So like, you watched it the way most people who are just casual watchers watch it also, like, just on the TV, before you got really into it. [M: Yeah. Yeah.] Did you have like, incredibly different perspectives on the characters and everything before you watched it like, fully? When you were just watching it, like, on the telly?

M: When I was watching it just casually, I just felt like, "Oh, these are two brothers, and they're hunting monsters," and I thought of it as like, a supernatural procedural. [G: Yes.] 'Cause I was already acquainted with- I'd already watched like, Charmed, and before that, I've watched, like, Smallville, so Supernatural is just another one of those shows that came on TV, but I didn't really know about it, but it was the only show that really drew my interest, just because it had such a strong fanbase on Tumblr. So watching it casually was like, "Oh, it's a TV show! I watch it the same way I watch Bones. Like, I'm not gonna watch it in order. I'm just gonna watch it when it was on TV." But then, when I started watching it like, seriously, sat down watching it, I was like, "There's a lot of lore behind this," and I feel like that really sucked me in.

G: I'm not sure if actually, I was watching it on Filipino television with the Tagalog dub, like, before I started watching the show actually, or if I caught it sometimes before that also. But the experience of catching a show on television is truly a different experience than like, you know, watching it intentionally. So it is like, fascinating when people are like, "Oh, and I started watching Supernatural, like, just catching it on the television." I want to ask specifically about Season 4. I think the last time we spoke to each other, you mentioned that you love Season 4. Like, it really is your favorite season.

M: I do. I would say Season 4, in my eyes, is like, one of the best seasons in Supernatural. I would say, like, the season that I kind of hold dear to me is Season 3, but that's kind of short, and it's also like- Season 3 of Supernatural is like Season 4 of Community. You know what I mean? It's like, the gas leak season. Like, every single episode, is like, not throwaway, but it's very meta, and it's very goofy. And even though it kind of sets you up for Season 4, it doesn't really like- it goes deep into like, the whole, like, Heaven and Hell thing, but not too deep, and Season 4 is really when, like, everything gets nailed down. Like, you learn the lore, you get introduced to angels, you introduce the Apocalypse, you introduce God, and, like, Michael, and all these things. And Sam and Dean realize that they go from being hunters to being instruments of God, and the thing that they did out of obligation becomes something they do as their destiny, and they have to, you know, come to terms with whether or not they're going to fulfill this destiny, or they have to come to terms with the fact that they don't do it and something worse happens, you know. [G: Yeah.] So that's why I like Season 4. Because it raises the stakes.

G: Yeah. I think I've said this prior, but I do tend to see Seasons 1-3 as the prequel of the show [laughs], and Season 4 is when it really starts. [M: Yeah.] Like, it really begins. And I have a lot of times in Season 4 where I did think, like, "We're in Supernatural now." Like, "This is Supernatural now." Especially, I think, because of the introduction of Cas, because, you know, I'm very, very- I love Cas so much that like, to me, a lot of Supernatural is just Castiel. And so like, now that he's here, it's like, "Oh my god, we're actually watching Supernatural now!" But yeah, you're right. It is a completely different vibe from Season 1, 2, and 3.

C: 'Cause your main takeaway from Supernatural is that it's about free will, and, like, the main characters are Team Free Will by the end, but like, that's only possible because there's a Heaven [G: Yes.] and because Heaven introduces the idea of fate in a way that the demons and Hell just like, does not. So, yeah, no, this is like, when Supernatural becomes Supernatural. Do you think it was like, a bummer for people who liked it before, though?

G: Oh, I'm sure for some people.

C: Like, the show has completely changed what its point is.

G: I mean, there's like, a lot of reviews, right, that we read where it's like, "Oh, the angel/demon blah blah blah is so boring."

C: Yeah, like, "Can't wait 'til this is over and we can get back to Supernatural!" [G laughs] [G: And it's never over.] [laughs] Like, oh, buddy. Yeah.

I mean, I'm curious about your Casgirl/Deangirl/Samgirl alignment, Manika. [G: Yeah.]

M: Casgirl/Deangirl/Samgirl alignment?

C: Like, [overlapping with G] which one's your favorite?

M: I would have to say like, I was a Samgirl for a long time, like, when I was younger. [G: Hell yeah!] [C: Good.] But now I'm like, a strong Casgirl, [C: Also good.] because they just kept playing in my guy's face.

G: So true! But do you or do you not have strong feelings regarding Dean in both of the positive and the negative?

M: I don't really have any strong feelings towards Dean because everybody already likes Dean. [G: Yeah.] So it's like, "Okay, he's cool. He's got it," you know? Like, I kinda put him to the side. It's not like I don't like Dean at all. It's just kind of like, "Mm, I mean, he's okay." Like, he's there. He's the favorite. He's like, the number one draft pick, so to speak, so he doesn't need my love.

C: Yeah. The writers are obsessed with him. [G: This is true.] That's why he's correct about nothing.

M: I feel like they're so obsessed with him, and then- Never mind. Let me not, let me not.

C: [laughing] No, I'm curious.

G: [laughing] No, we are completely with this discussion.

C: We hate Dean. [C and G laughing] We hate Dean so much.

G: No, I love Dean!

M: No, I didn't say I hated Dean! I was just saying that-

C: Okay, I hate Dean, I hate Dean, and I think that being neutral about Dean is a very good, brave decision to make.

G: Like, in in this podcast, I am the Dean lover, but like, just because Crystal just doesn't like him so much, [laughs] and so I've just been thrust upon this position. [laughs] Because Crystal doesn't like him. But yeah, go on.

M: I was just saying like, it's ironic that the writers love Dean so much, [G: Yeah.] and that like, he got so many good stories, and like, interesting plotlines throughout the seasons, just for them to kill him with a nail. [C: Yeah.] Like, what is that? [G: Yeah.] What is that? [C: They were being funny.] I would actually fight the writers. I would actually- No. It's not even funny. Like, I played this character for 15 years, [C and G laugh] I would actually, like- we would start boxing. Like, screw what Eric Kripke says, everybody's getting these hands, okay?

C: Was he even involved by the end? Where was Eric Kripke at the end of Supernatural?

G: I don't think he was particularly involved, but Jensen Ackles apparently called him.

C: Oh yeah! He called him, and he was like, "This is a really difficult thing for me to hear about my character," and [overlapping with G] Eric Kripke was like, "Just go for it. It's fine." [G: Yeah.] Like, could Jensen Ackles have gotten them to rewrite it? Like, what did he think was gonna happen?

M: He could've. He could've, but he didn't care, 'cause he was developing The Boys, so.

G: Yeah, I felt very much like you when the show ended. Like, I think, around 2021. I was very like, upset with the show. And even when we were starting this podcast, which is like, early 2022, I was kind of like, afraid of how we're going to do Season 15, even though it's like, years from now, because I'm like- it's still like, a very sore and bitter topic for me. I think nowadays, I have like, just mellowed out, but only because I'm rewatching Supernatural from the beginning. [M: Yeah, okay.] So, like, my mindset is still here. It's still not in Season 15. Sometimes I would think about it and still be like, "Agh, what were they doing??" [laughs] But yeah, I think maybe that feeling for me will resurface, maybe, or maybe not when we get to the later seasons of the show in the podcast.

C: I'm gonna have to take Deangirl sensitivity training so I don't laugh throughout his death the whole time. [G laughs]

M: Oh my god!

G: Crystal is such a hater. Specifically, I wanted to ask you about your rewatch of Season 4. Did you rewatch it recently? Do you have any new thoughts on the matter? Any surprises that got to you?

M: Yeah, upon my rewatch, I was just like- Oh my gosh, I was kind of taken aback by the nostalgia of it all. And I was taken aback by just how terrible quality it was. [C and G laugh] First of all, watching this on Netflix, and at some point, I was watching it on my TV, I'm like, "Damn, this is actually- like, this feels like 2000 all over again." But I loved rewatching it. I feel like every single time I've rewatched Supernatural, there are little things that I pick up on and little things that I see. I do wanna say, I liked the original Meg that they had, like, played by Nicki Aycox- she's blonde. I liked her. But I'm not gonna lie, like, the brunette Meg does like, hold a special place in my heart, but- There are those little things that I noticed. Ruby, of course, being like, "Oh my gosh! That's Sam's wife!" and I was seeing her, and I was like, this is a weird kinky foreplay of her just being suss, [C laughs] being almost an abuser, and then them dating.

C: Yeah, of the to-be-Padaleckis, yeah. [M: Yeah.]

G: Yeah. Truly experience.

M: Yes, it was- It was weird. It was interesting, but it was definitely weird, and- what else? "Yellow Fever," of course, is my favorite. [G laughs] Made me laugh so hard. And also, "Eye of the Tiger," when he's doing the "Eye of the Tiger" performance on the car, that's my favorite part. I love it so much. I started like, laughing so hard. I actually started laughing a lot during these episodes, [G: Yeah.] and that's the one thing that I feel like new Supernatural missed that old Supernatural did beautifully is that the show was just funny, you know?

G: Really?

M: Yes! It's funny. Like, there is some-

G: You think new Supernatural is less funny?

C: It's my understanding that Supernatural has turned more sitcom-ish as the seasons progressed.

G: I think the future Supernaturals are funny, but, again, I'm at my Season 4 mind right now.

M: They're trying too hard to be funny, though.

G: Oh, yeah, you're right. Like, it's trying to be comedic on purpose instead of [M: Yes.] whatever it is they're doing here. Yeah, I get that. I get that.

M: Season 4, it's like, these are two idiots that are dealing with demons and angels. They are prepared for the Apocalypse. This is what they've been waiting for since the beginning of creation. This is something they've been hoping for. This is something they've been like, longing for, to have a war on Earth. Like, they didn't even care that these two idiots are here. [G: Yeah.] And these two idiots, who have only been born like, a speck of time in comparison to these centuries that these angels and demons have been alive, just have to deal with these two. And they're just trying to like, you know, get this started. You know what I mean? [G: Yeah. Yeah.] So it's fun to watch. It's also fun to see, like, all the writers who have been on the show for so long flex these muscles, and it's crazy 'cause like, a lot of the episodes are really good. And I was just like, "How is it that y'all wrote Season 4 and put together, like, this work of art, like, this storyline, and you gave us like, Season 7. Like, how did that happen?" [G: Yeah.] Where did we lose the plot?

G: I think the thing is, as you said, like, there are episodes in this season that are like, "Wow! That's like, really good." But there are also times where it's like, "Oh, I understand how this show turned into whatever it becomes in the future," because, like, it's the same writers, and I think both the stuff that they're good at talking about and also their pitfalls, like, both individual writers and the show, I think you can see it in Season 4. Yeah. I think honestly, the reason why Season 4 feels so good is because the tail end is just excellent. I really do think that. Like, I think the first few episodes, honestly, were just so-so.

C: I was not impressed. I mean, "Laz Rising" was good [G: Yes.] and 4.03 was good. 4.02, eh. [G: I love 4.02.] And the rest of them were- Okay, "Metamorphosis" had its thing. I think it was like, the middle of Season 4, where it was just regular case episodes, [G: Yeah. And it was a bit of a plot.], none of them were particularly impressive. But I think that the beginning and the end are both very good.

G: Yeah. Yeah. And that's why it's easier to remember it fondly. "Yellow Fever" is an interesting pick, because I watched that episode, like, me and Crystal, we did- like, it was entertaining. Like, it was fun. [C: Yeah. I laughed.] But yeah, you think about the implication of what they did to that ghost, and it's like, "What is this?" The thing about Supernatural is you will have a fun episode that is beloved by the fandom, beloved by, you know, both viewers were really into it, and casual viewers are like- And then you watch it, and it is fun. it is fun. It's just that there will always be something there that you're like, "What is that? [laughs] What were they doing?" And for "Yellow Fever" for me, it was like, the way they resolved the actual ghost situation.

C: Yeah, they were like, "This man was murdered so horribly because of, like, his like, ableist or whatever community, and the way to get rid of him as a ghost is to like, kill him again in the exact same horrible way." [G: Yeah.]

M: I remember I was watching Season 4, and there are a lot of episodes that I realize serve as kind of- I don't know how else to describe it, but like, branches. Because a lot of times, if your show feels like they're about to get canceled, [G: Yeah.] or they feel like they might not be renewed, they'll introduce new things in the season, and they'll stay on like, the plotline. So like, this Season 4 stays with like, the Apocalypse, keeping Lucifer from like, breaking the levee, and, like, you know, getting out. But it also introduces a lot of other things, you know. First of all, it introduces Carver Edlund [G: Yeah.] who is writing the Supernatural books. Yeah. And then there's Adam, you know, they're introducing their half brother [C: Yeah.] that they didn't know about. You know, there are a lot of things that are introduced here. Like, I think also Ghostfacers.

C: They were in Season 3?

G: [overlapping with C] They were brought back in "It's a Terrible Life," but that's more of like, a "They planted that seed before, and this is like, it growing now" is with Ghostfacers. But you're right, like, they do plant seeds in this season.

M: 'Cause they're just like, "You know, the Apocalypse storyline is great, but, you know, guys, if you want to continue the show, we have other things so we can jump back to, you know, if you wanna keep us going." [C: That's true.]

G: Yeah, I mean, I do frequently wonder when they decided that Season 5 was not going to be the end. Was it here? Like, when they were doing Season 4, were they already like, "And now we're going to have a Season 6 and 7." Or was that more of a "after they finish Season 5, they got reviewed again." I wasn't, you know, I wasn't into Supernatural at the time, so I have no gauge whatsoever on what the show climate was at the time. But it is interesting to think about 'cause me and Crystal were also discussing the other episode, like, "What is Supernatural about? Like, what are they trying to say?" And because if you just look at Supernatural at the original, quote unquote, "original run" of 1 to 5, it's saying a completely different thing than what it ends up saying in the full show at the 15 seasons. So yeah, like, Supernatural, when did- you know, what were they doing? And how did they deal with the continuance off the show? It's interesting.

G: So, yeah. Crystal, I mean, you have talked a little bit, but what's your Season 4 general feelings now that we have gone through the entire thing?

C: Um, I don't know. There's just not that many feelings that exist. Like, I liked "When the Levee Breaks" a lot. But, like, you know, in our 4.22 recording, I said, I didn't feel particularly impressed 'cause I already knew everything. [G: Yeah.] I feel like this is the season where, like, I probably had, like, [both] the most fandom knowledge on, like, play-by-play what all the major plot points are, so like, nothing was really surprising to me, whereas, like, in Season 7, I have no clue how they're gonna defeat Dick Roman, or whatever the fuck. [G laughs]

G: Yeah. I think it did affect how you are. Because, like, I feel like in Season 1, 2, and 3, whenever big, especially emotional, stuff happens, you do react to it in a "I did not expect that to happen here" way. In Season 4, I think especially with Sam's plot in Season 4, I think you knew more than me what was happening! Like, what was gonna happen. [C: Right. This is true.] So yeah, it is a different vibe for you this season. Do you really think it's like, you know, not particularly more than the sum of its parts, what's happening this season?

C: Okay, I think the aesthetic of it is nice. Like, I like the lighting. I think all the things that they did with the angels is very cool. [G: Yeah.] I liked, you know, Uriel and Zachariah, and obviously Cas, and also Anna. So like, good concepts were introduced, and they looked good while they were doing it. But I don't know if I really felt like, a strong emotional connection to the characters or the plotline. Especially because I think.- Season 1, it's like, "We're like, in our twenties, and we're looking for our dad, and we're scared." It's like, okay, like, I know what that is. [G: That's relatable, yeah.] And, you know, later, it's like, Sam has his special- the psychic children arc, which, I mean, I think is like, personal enough to him that I could also feel that. And then, it's, you know, "Dean is gonna go to Hell and die because of the deal he made, and he doesn't wanna die." Like, okay, I get that too. Now, it's like, there's like, the literal Apocalypse, [G: Yeah.] but like, we're just stuck with these two guys who are kind of both annoying. [C and G laugh] Like, why don't I want the world to end? Like-

G: I think this is like, what Manika was saying. Like, for some people it would be incredibly appealing that the stakes are higher, blah blah blah. You think you fall on the other side of that equation? Like, you're like, "I want it to be more personal."

C: Right. I think, first off, we start with Dean having supposedly been in Hell for 40 years, [G: Yeah.] but still knowing how to make burgers and shit, you know what I mean? So like, we start off with like, this giant thing happened that's like, beyond imagining for a lot of people, but like, we aren't able to fully encapsulate what that does to someone at all. Like, Dean's basically the same, except occasionally has like, a flashback. So it's like, you've already set up that there's like, this big stake that you weren't able to follow through with properly. And now with the Apocalypse, yeah, it's like, I don't know. Like, they just keep saying that the world's gonna end. They keep saying the word "apocalypse." But what does that actually mean to them. Like, when they're on their regular hunts in the middle of the season, and they're talking to like, regular people who don't know about hunting, I don't think it's on their minds that, like, "These are the people that are gonna be gone when the world ends," because they also like, don't really bother making any of the people they save [G: Yeah.] particularly like, likable or 3D. So, I don't know. I think it was harder for me to care because the problem of the season felt so abstract.

M: I do want to say, just to like, jump on what Crystal saying, it's always interesting when shows that have, like, otherworldly elements, their protagonists essentially have to deal with something very traumatic and terrible, [C: Yeah.] and they don't go to therapy. Like, they don't do anything to like, resolve what's going on in their minds, because having to like, take the time to like, work out your issues and do like, any self-work, or like, trying to work through your trauma is kind of- it's inhibiting to the plot, really. [G: Yeah.] Like, it takes away the time you could spend the doing the mystery. If you really wanted to get better, you would like, absolutely stop hunting, and, like, you know, take some time away, but that'd also take him away from his family. So there's this sense of purpose, [G: Yeah.] there's this sense of "I have to do this. Like, I have no other choice," you know. You ask, like, "What's the purpose of the Apocalypse? Like, what is it? It feels so abstract." And really, like, I feel like Sam and Dean have been dealing with like, quote-unquote "apocalypses" for, like, most of their life, and it's like, find their dad, find the person that killed their mom. And now they're introducing angels and demons. Like, this is above my paygrade. And it's just that, like, they have no other choice but to take part in this because it's completely out of their hands, [C: Right.] and it's something that's like, thrust upon them. So it's like, you know, the never-ending self-impending doom of their quote-unquote "profession," you know.

C: Right. Also, like, Dean, gets out of Hell, and like, the day of, like, Castiel, is like, "Hey, it's me. Literal God needs you to keep hunting." [G: Yeah.] Like, I guess we don't know what would have happened if he didn't meet Cas, like, right away. I suppose Sam was still hunting Lilith 'cause she was still around. She still had her demon war that she was trying to do. So like, I don't think that Dean would have taken a break, but yeah, I think it's the fact that they chose this job, they keep getting thrust into these situations [G: Yeah.], they keep being in survival mode so they can't go to therapy or take a break or whatever. And because they won't fucking tell anybody because, like, hunting is such an insular community, and like, no one wants to tell anybody [G: Anyone else, yeah.]- like, the civilians about like, ghosts or shit. It's like, they are stuck on like, "It has to be me who does this." Like, I don't know, like, most governmental institutions or whatever like, suck ass, but like, at least, it means that like, there'd be like, [laughs] more than ten people in the US working on the Apocalypse.

G: Yeah, it also does- I think a part of it is just that this is like, a episodic TV show. Like, I feel like, you know, Supernatural, I mean, much like anything, really is a product of like, its time and its format. I feel like if maybe Supernatural was a more prestige TV show or whatever, they would feel more allowance in terms of developing that character in that way, or like, dealing with that trauma that the character experiences in that way. But because, like, you do have to keep the same vibe in every episode, pretty much, it's like, that's really what cements Dean here. Also, oh my god, I completely forgot that the first episode of Season 4 literally ends with, "We have work for you." [C: Yeah.] And that's like, what the rest of the season is about, pretty much, for Dean. It's like, "The angels have work for you." Oh! I forgot that! I mean, Season 4-

C: Cas said that sentence and everything!

G: [laughs] Yeah. No, but like, Season 4 ends with Dean in that room because the angels have work for him, and like, yeah. It is just they are very much just pawns being pushed around. Although I would say that is a big part of why Season 5 works. Like, Season 4 and Season 5 are a pair, I feel. Like, you can't really extricate them from one another the way you can Season 1, 2, and 3 from each other.

C: We talk about how they're going to be vessels for Michael and Lucifer like, every episode during Season 4, even though like, they don't know that.

G: It's not mentioned yet, yeah. And also, like, you know, like, the whole point of Sam and Dean being like, they're just small, small parts in this huge, huge machine. And then, you know, by the end of Season 5, it's like, no, these are the parts. These small parts are like, what makes the thing, and so Sam and Dean can make a difference. Just like those little toy soldiers in the car! [laughs] Whatever. I really like that episode, unfortunately, so it does make me emotional.

C: Is it unfortunate? I thought a lot of people liked "Swan Song."

G: Is it fortunate? Oh, okay, I like that episode, fortunately.

C: I think it's a neutral condition to have. [laughs]

G: Okay, fine.

G: Well, let's do character arcs. So what do you guys think of like, the character arcs this season?

C: Well, I just first have to like, figure out what the character arcs are. Who are we starting with?

G: Okay. Where do we start with Sam? Well, hunting with Ruby.

C: Yeah, Sam starts hunting Lilith [M: Yeah.] with Ruby as a revenge thing because she 'caused Dean's death, and also because she's trying to like, have the demon war on earth that they were supposedly fighting in Season 3 but that I forget about constantly.

G: Yeah, I mean, Season 3 ends with Sam being like, "Okay, Ruby, what is it now? Like, you said I can do something. What is it, like, in the last minute?" And Ruby was like, "It's too late. Dean is still going to Hell." So I think that does inform a lot of what Sam is doing. Like, he can't give himself the ability to- or the opportunity to "think it through," quote-unquote, because, like, I mean, "he thought that one through, and now Dean is in Hell"-kind of situation.

C: Yeah. Or it was like, he basically already committed to like, doing whatever it is that Ruby said, would give him powers in the last minutes before Dean's death, [G: Yeah.] and it was too late. But like, it's not too late to get revenge on Lilith. [G sighs] So okay, hand over that demon blood sippy cup.

G: Right. Where does he end the season?

M: [laughs] Not sippy cup.

G: [laughs] Sippy cup. Exactly. Where does he end this season?

C: Well, okay. So-

G: I mean, he ends it miserable. But he also ends Season 4 miserable- or, Season 5 miserable.

C: Have we really discussed what it means that Dean comes back, like, to him?

G: To Sam? [C: Yeah, to Sam.] I don't know. What is there to discuss? What are your thoughts on it?

C: Obviously, [laughs] it was an unexpected thing. [G laughs] [M: Yeah, very unexpected.] He'd already committed himself to being like, this like, revenge-driven just like, completely lost in the killing Lilith sauce because of Dean's death thing. So like, this sort of throws a wrench into like, the narrative of his life that he's decided, right? [M: Yeah, that's true.] But like, he does continue drinking demon blood. He does continue pursuing Lilith. But, you know, as Dean says in 4.21-

G: [laughs] Now the main issue is that Dean is also here.

C: - is like, "Hey, like, I'm back. [laughs] Like, what is this revenge thing for now?" [G: Yeah.] I think we're supposed to think that at this point, like, he just like, is addicted to demon blood to the point where, like, the revenge is not the primary reason, like, already in 4.01? Or at what point do we think like, he made that switch?

G: I don't know. I mean, he does stop in "Metamorphosis," right? Like, that's a big deal.

C: That's true. He does stop in "Metamorphosis." Does he start up again until "Criss Angel"?

G: Comes back in "Criss Angel," yeah.

C: Okay, yeah. So he wasn't that set on thedemon blood thing until after "Criss Angel," so like, he had an 8-episode interim. So. [G: Yeah.] And then, we think his whole like, arrogance, like, "I can do this better than Dean can" thing starts after 4 12?

M: It's interesting, because I think after Dean leaves, he's gotta like, try to become his own man, almost. [G: Yeah.] So it's a little weird 'cause, like, the Sammy that we know from previous seasons would have tried to find a way to get his brother out of Hell, or try to go to Hell himself and then break him out from there. He would have been mourning or sad, and instead he decides to become-

C: He does say that he tried those things.

M: He says that.

C: Like, we see him try to make a demon deal. Well, we see footage of him trying to make a demon deal in the flashbacks in 4.09. [G and M: Yeah.] He tells Dean also that he literally tried to reopen like, the gate to Hell that was opened [G laughing] at the end of Season 2. I guess we don't know if he actually did that, but like, [laughs] pretty whacked-up thing to make up if you didn't actually do it. [laughs] Like, that's not something I would be proud of telling someone I did.

G: I mean, I think, like, fundamentally, what happened to Sam was like, Dean leaving did change him. [M: Yeah.] Like, we we enter Season 4. Sam is different, even more different than Dean, I would say!

C: [laughs] He installed an iPod jack in the Impala and everything. [G laughs]

G: Yeah! Like, he is even more different than Dean, I think.

C: [laughs] And Dean was literally torturing people for 10 years and tortured for 30 years.

G: Exactly. But like, you know how Sam kept on insisting throughout the tail end of the season that, like, "Dean is different, and like, [C: Yeah, he came back wrong.] he can't do it because he's weak and something changed him in Hell." But really it's like, Sam changed. Sam's different.

C: Sam's different. Dean is like, the same.

G: Dean is the same. It's just that Sam has changed so much that in comparison to Dean that he thinks one of them changed and it's Dean, when it's him, really. Aw. I mean, as I said, I think Season 4 and 5 are paired together, so like, this specific arc of Sam is not yet done. I think it ends in Season 5, so.

C: That's when he decides that he can like, defeat Lucifer in his brain. [laughs]

G: Yeah. So I feel like for Sam, it is a continuing arc. [C: Right.] We need to talk about Dean. [laughs] Why did I say it like that? Well, we do need to talk about Dean.

C: Like, there's nothing else we have to say about Sam? Sam Winchester?

G: Okay, what else do you want to say, Crystal?

C: Like, this is the second season of his relationship with Ruby. Like, there's got to be something there. I don't know. Is there?

G: 'Cause between the two of us, you are the Sam and Ruby person.

C: That's true. I feel like Samruby's larger in my head than it is in the show. Like, I feel like the show itself doesn't really-

G: Reckon with it much.

C: - do much- Yeah, like, they don't like, really like, give it like, the depth or the seriousness of like, an abusive relationship depiction. But they also like, don't really- they just don't- There's not really a lot of feelings in the show between them.

G: Yeah. There's- Ruby is here for more plot.

C: They're both a means to each other's end, yeah.

G: Yeah. I mean, I think Season 3 Ruby has more like, emotional whatever whatever than Season 4, which is a very surprising thing to say. [C: Yeah.] But also, I mean, I just like Season 3 Ruby a lot more. So that's why, probably.

C: [laughs] She has a better actor.

G: Yeah. I mean-

C: Manika, do you have feelings about if Genevieve Padalecki is a good actor? [G: As Ruby. As Ruby specifically.] [M laughs] 'Cause I feel like a lot of people thought that she was like, quite wooden, and I feel like Grey and I felt that way, too. But also like, she is a beloved character, like, in her brunette Ruby iteration. So I'm curious about if there's like, other opinions on her acting. [G: What are your thoughts?]

M: Yeah, I feel like she is very good. To be perfectly honest, I liked her in Season 4, and she really brought like, something interesting to the show. She reminds me a lot of like, Bela, except Bela was kind of sassy and snarky, and she was fun, and I like that about her because she gives like, antihero, so you wanna root for her. But Ruby is very clearly like, she's a demon. She's a bad person. And we know that she's bad, and Sam knows that she's bad, but he can't like, get away from her. And it just kind of falls in line that this is an abusive relationship. It's not like- I don't know if the writers intentionally meant to write it because a lot of the things- 'Cause like, if the writers meant to intentionally depict an abusive relationship, I feel like they should have intentionally depicted like, Sam talking about- bringing up more- when people are addicted to stuff in TV shows, they always say, like, "Oh, I could stop at any time." Or they'll say things like, "Oh, it's like, it's okay. I'm better with it. I know how to manage it. I know how to take care of it," which he does. He's like, you know, "The blood, I'm saving people. Like, we don't have to kill the people. Like, we can still save the people inside" and blah blah blah. And it's weird, 'cause, even though he says that he's still, like, you know, kind of destroying his body in order to do it. And it's just like, this, strange give-and-take that's going on. And I feel like in Season 4, we're seeing Sam, who's like, super nice, very helpful, down-to-earth guy who's willing to work with a demon and eventually falls in love with a demon, and he knows she's a demon. There's no good in her.

C: I mean, even the opinion that Sam is in love with Ruby is not like, [G: Yeah. It's really-] universally held. I don't even know if I believe that. [G: In the context of the show, yeah.] Can you speak more?

M: No. I don't think that he's in love with her. I think that because she makes him feel powerful, and she's like, giving him kind of like, a big head. She's like, "Yeah, you got this." [G: There's a reliance on that, yeah.] He somehow has- There's a reliance on it, and also, like, she's hot [C: True.] [C laughs] and she's there. So if you make a guy feel good enough for a long enough time and you're always around, and you just happen to be hot, he's just gonna wanna get in your pants, you know? [C and G laugh] So he's attracted to her. If he's in love with her, I doubt it.

C: Though, I mean, she was the one to pressure him into sex first. [G: Yeah.] Yeah, but I think she is like, using something.

G: She is absolutely using him, and we all see it but him.

C: I think there is an attraction there already that he did not want to act on. But then, right, she forced the matter in order to make him more dependent on her.

G: It is- I don't know. The Sam and Ruby stuff is incredibly interesting. I think that Ruby, for me, is most beloved in Season 4 in the episodes with Anna. Because I feel like those are the ones that really, like, at least at that point in the story, cement her as like, "She's on our side," or whatever.

C: Right. Like, even an angel says, "Ruby is different from the others. She's nice. She saved me."

G: Yeah. And so, like, I do think that is like, a good turning point in her character. Although after that, I just really don't think they do anything much with her. [C: Yeah.] Like, I think she just becomes like, a plot person. A person to move the plot. [C: Yeah, a real Bobby of a character.] And I don't know. I do feel like a little bit like, "Mm." I think that's also a big part of why by the end of this season, I was like, "Eh." Ruby has a lot of promise, etc. And like, I think, you know, if they brought her back in the show, which they kind of do in Season 14 again, but like, not really. [C: Very briefly.] Yeah, there are interesting avenues to take this character. But, alas! They don't. [C: Yeah.] So it's forever going to be what is.

C: I do feel like they've either forgotten a lot about her Season 3 characterization, or they've decided that you can just think that she was manipulating them, like, the whole whole time. Right, there's this scene at the end of, like, "Malleus Maleficarum," is it? where she tells Dean, "I'm helping you because I remember what it's like to be human and stuff like that." She tells Sam a similar thing, like, in the 4.09 flashbacks. [G: Yeah.] And that is an interesting concept. But I guess at the end, we're just supposed to think she was lying the whole time, [M: The whole time.] and every time she was helping them in Season 3 was to lead Sam. [G: There was a motive.] Which is also like, fine, like, if there's like, depth to that. [G: Yeah.] If we like, understood why she cared so much about raising Lucifer again, or like, [G: Yeah.] her feelings about her role in the matter. Like, she gets a little bit of a monologue in 4.22 about how she's proud of herself for having done this, but like, I don't know. I wanna know why this is important to her. And I also wanna know more about her like, past as a witch and all that shit because they made it such a big reveal in Season 3 [G: Yeah.], and they just sort of drop all those threads with her and have Dean stab her to death!

M: In Season 3, you said, like, in "Malleus Maleficarum," when she said that she remembered what it felt like to be human, it was interesting 'cause she like, warned the Winchesters- She tried to warn them of like, a witch coven, you know, that was being controlled by Astaroth.

C: Yeah, yeah, her former witch teacher person. [G: Boss.]

M: Yeah, yeah. I feel like she was doing that to gain their trust, almost. [G: Yeah.] You know, she's trying to like, get them on her side. And it's most likely that she had always intended to bring back Lucifer, and she probably saw something in Sam that he hadn't seen in himself yet, and she was just like, you know, "What would be more irony than the two brothers that are going around killing like, demons, witches, werewolves to bring Lucifer back to Earth and start the Apocalypse." So I feel like she's been playing the long game.

C: Yeah. [G: Yeah.] She also had some kind of partnership with Azazel, didn't she? Where she said that he passed on the information to her about how Sam had been specially selected to help raise Lucifer?

G: I mean, all of that is so murky. Like, the Azazel-Ruby-Lilith-Lucifer connection is so murky.

C: Yeah, it's just dropped this monologue at the end of Season 4 [G: Yeah.] that is not clear. Like, I don't know. I would love to see some flashbacks of her and, like, Azazel, like, eating fries together and him being like, "Okay, and then you should probably do this [G laughs] [G: Yeah.] and then tell Sam to drink from your veins," and she's like, "Yes, that would be so fun and silly! Alright, writing that down." [laughs]

G: Yeah. I mean- Is this true? Manika, have you heard this? There was this like, thing I heard once, I'm not sure if it's true at all, that like, the reason why Ruby had to be killed at the end of Season 4 is because Jared and Genevieve started dating, and so they didn't want to have Sam and Ruby continue being a thing in the show when the people playing them are dating. Have you heard this? Have you ever heard this?

M: I did see that rumor on Tumblr. And the thing with Supernatural is that they're one of those shows that start airing while the show's filming because the show is so long [G: Right. Yeah, yeah.] it was impossible for them to like, film all the shows, like, the full season, and then air it, so that could be the case. But I think what really happened was that Ruby was meant to be a one-season character the same way, like, Lilith has been. [G: Yeah, for like, a shorter- yeah.] 'Cause like, you could bring in a female character, but yeah, if she's not on the Winchester's side, she's not a good person, then she's gonna die. Even when she is a good person, she may die. [G: Yeah.] So it is possible that, like, Ruby, was always intending for Sam to get stronger and stronger and stronger, and him feeling guilty that he couldn't take down Lilith and his brother still went to jail- he went to Hell. She was like, "Oh, yeah, I got him right where I wanted." [C: Yeah.] And then, you know, and then she was like, "Yeah, I mean, I wanna raise Lucifer." And like, they knew. The writers had to know, like, if Ruby is going to raise Lucifer, then she's going to die this season. [G: Yeah. That is probably also-] So I feel like- Yeah, and I think them dating just kind of happened.

G: Yeah. [laughs] We have been talking about the Padaleckis so much for this episode. But I think honestly, like, that kind of like- outside factors that contributed to the character dying or whatever is more applicable to Anna, really, than Ruby.

C: Oh, absolutely. God, poor Anna. Right, Manika, you've heard that like, Anna was sort of meant to stay on, like, as the Cas character. [G: The Cas of the show, yeah.] But then the audience all liked Cas so much more that they just like, diminished Anna's role and then kill her in Season 5.

M: Oh. Wait, seriously?

C: Yeah. Like, Cas supposed to die in Season 4.

G: Yeah. Then got brought back in Season 5. It is fascinating how they do- I don't know.

C: 'Cause you can feel it because of how, like, right, like, Grey, both of us said that Anna shows up in 4.20 and 4.21, [G: 21, yeah.] and like, she's like- she doesn't contribute anything to either of those episodes. She's just there to like, drop information that, like, they already knew. And I think it's because the actress was like, contracted to be on more episodes. [G: Yeah.] And then like, eventually, when they were like, "Actually, we want Castiel for this kind of a role," then, like, she like, still had to film those episodes [G: Got booted up to heaven.] but they didn't have anything to give her to do or whatever. So yeah, they just flattened her out.

G: That is interesting what you pointed out, Manika, like, Supernatural is a show that is writing while still airing or still filming.

C: Right, which is why things like Cas getting brought back in Season 7 because, like, the audience, was not enjoying that he was gone for so long, [G: Yeah.] that's why something like that could have happened.

G: That format basically gives us Cas back in Season 7, yeah. Well, [laughs] is that all good for Sam?

C: Sure. [laughs]

G: Okay, let's talk about Dean. Let's talk about Dean.

C: Yeah. I am curious about how Sam's guilt over Lucifer is gonna affect him in Season 5. Okay, that's my last thing to say.

G: No, that's for Season 5, yeah. [M: Uh-huh.]

G: What is the Dean situation? I don't know.

C: I don't know. He existed and was annoying. You guys can talk about him.

G: It's because, like, when Dean is endearing, he is endearing, and when he is annoying, he is so annoying! [M: Mm.] And in Season 4, I feel like he is a lot more annoying than he is endearing. [C: Yeah.] This season, especially 'cause we did a break to watch Good Omens for 3 months [laughs], but during that time I was thinking about Dean a lot. I was like, reminiscing on Season 1 Dean, etc. I just had extreme fondness for him. And then we went back to the show, to Supernatural, and it was like, "Aw. This is not like, the Dean that I like." Like, Season 4- I mean, because Sam and Dean, as I said, like, they have to maintain like, a status quo. But also they do, in fact, actually change also. It's just incredibly like, gradual and sometimes not intentional, [laughs] I feel like. Like, it's the external forces that cause that instead of like, them as characters. But like, I feel like Dean is like- Season 1 and 2 Dean, extremely endearing. And then it like, dips down very, very low for a while. [laughs] And then it rises back up until, you know, Season 15. So like, I feel like right now, me and Dean, we're not good. [C: You're on the outs.] We're having our divorce era. Yeah. He's sleeping on the couch, etc. So. I don't know. I mean, Manika, what do you think of Season 4 Dean? Like, Season 4 specifically.

M: I feel like Season 4 Dean is the beginning of like, grouchy Dean, you know? [G: Yes.] You know, like, grumbly Dean. You know, he's just so- I don't know how to say it. Pent up? You know, he doesn't talk about his feelings, doesn't open up, really. Like, he went to Hell. [G: Yeah.] Like, he literally went through suffering, like, the worst kind of suffering possible, and it's because the show won't allow them to talk about. Like, he was about to become a demon. Like, that was his like, biggest fear. And now here he is on Earth, he's back to hunting again, and, like, the season prior, he knew that he was gonna die in a year, so he was almost like, reckless and almost like, suicidal in a way. But he was just kinda like, in his head like, "Oh, I can't die before I'm supposed to. So like, if I do something really stupid on this hunt, it's gonna be fine, 'cause like, I'm not gonna die, you know? Not this time around." And now that Dean's been to Hell, it's kind of like, well, how does he feel? What's going on with him now that he's gone through something that traumatic? Like, how does he view hunting now? Like, has things changed for him? 'Cause I try to think about it like, a soldier coming back from war, you know? So soldiers come back from war, he's like, heartbroken, and, like, you know, kind of like, down and sad, and they either hate their country or they come back, and they're just like, even more of like, a [tough-guy voice] "red-blooded American!" And it seems like Dean is like, the second one, but he still feels like, you know, "Why do I have to go?"

G: He feels more attached to hunting, do you think?

M: Yeah, he feels more attached to hunting, you know? Because it's just what he knows. Like, there's nothing else he can do, really.

G: I think, honestly, what you said, it brought up something interesting in me, which is like, is he afraid to die now? Is there more of a survival instinct because like, he knows what being dead's like?

C: [laughs] Right, he knows where he's going.

G: Yeah, I don't- That is an interesting thought. I think- I don't know, like, you're right, Season 4 is the beginning of this Dean, which is why, like, as I said, a lot of my reminiscing was like, Season 1-3. I mean, to be fair, Sam also is like- this is the beginning of Sam being something else. Like, his attitude towards the later half of the show is very much informed by all of the experiences of this season. So the differences with Dean, we don't see it happen on screen. Like, the thing that changes him. We don't see it happen necessarily on screen, while, you know, the entire season is dedicated to what happens to Sam. So.

M: Yeah, that's true. And it's ironic, too, because Dean literally finds out that he's like, chosen by God, and I feel like this hurts Sam even more because he, out of the brothers, was like, the one openly a believer in God. And he's tried to be a good person, but because, like, he starts drinking demon blood, he's somehow seen as like, defective. And I would have to say that's a little like- I don't wanna say it's harsh, but, like, damn. He was the one who actually like, believes in the big guy upstairs. And like, Dean literally couldn't care less. Like, he does not want to do this, and it's just like, the angels are just like, "We don't care. Like, he asked for you specifically." So like, you gotta get with the program. [C and G: Yeah.]

C: In terms of Dean never talking about his feelings, I think the two moments that I recall are in "Monster Movie," he's talking to Jamie about [G: To that girl, yeah.] about how like, he went through a near-death experience and he's back now.

G: He wants to make it worth it.

C: Yeah, he wants to make it worth it. And he wants to help people through hunting. So I think you're right that he's rededicated to hunting after this. [G: Yeah.] And then in 4.15, he's talking to Tessa. [laughing] Dean can only open up to like, one-off love interest women. Like, wild.

G: Because when he opens up to Sam, I feel like it's a completely different vibe. [C: Yes.] It's like, I don't know, "This is what happened to me." [C: Yeah, and then they both sit with it.] which is like, a different thing than like, "This is how it changed me," which is his conversation with Tessa and Jamie.

C: Yeah, so Tessa is- He says something else about, you know, second chance. And then he says specifically that like, he- it's not that he feels honored, but there's a weight to like-

G: He says he just wish he died in Season 2 already, but like, because he didn't, he just has to keep on going because this is the situation now.

C: Yeah, and he says that the idea that, like, Heaven saw something good in him, despite all the torture he did in Hell, like, matters to him in that he does want to like- He does care about like, the work that's been given to him because [G: Yeah.] he was brought back by Heaven, who, like, some somehow forgave him for the torture in some way. [G: Yeah, which is truly-] But like, that's all before he finds out- Like, I guess, okay, in Season 5, I'm assuming he's gonna be processing the fact that the thing he was telling himself that like, "This is why I'm back, and so that means it's good that I'm back," like, the fact that that's a lie, he'll probably be processing that in Season 5, I assume?

G: Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows?

M: Who knows?

C: [laughs] Yeah, they don't really process in Supernatural.

G: [laughs] Exactly. I think, you know, one of the most fascinating episode sequence choices they made was putting the Tessa episode right before "On the Head of a Pin." Because, you know, Dean in that episode was like, "Oh, I'm here for a reason because God is like, you know- Like, I was saved from the torture and the torturing because God had work for me." [C: Yeah.] And then, like, "On the Head of a Pin" is like, "Oh, actually, the work is torturing someone."

C: [overlapping] [laughing] "We have work, and the work is do more torture!" Yeah.

G: Which must have sucked so hard.

C: It's true, yeah. He viewed being saved as redemption from the torture. So the fact that it's like, "Maybe we saved you 'cause we like that you did torture and we want you to do more torture" [laughs] is not a good feeling.

G: Yeah. Yeah. Do we have anything more to say about Dean? I'm gone. I feel like-

C: Well, there's his relationship with Sam that like, sours immensely this season.

G: I mean, of course. [laughs]

C: Back to Sam, baby! No, but yeah.

G: No, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, "Well, his relationship with Cas, we can talk about in the Cas part!" [laughs] But we literally can. [G: Well, we can.] Relationship between Sam and Dean. What's the situation? I don't know. You know, it's terrible right now, and mostly because of Dean.

C: Yeah. [laughs] Yeah, I agree with that one. I know some people would not, but I think it's all Dean's fault, mostly. [G: Yeah.] It's bad right away Like, he fucking punches Sam in "Metamorphosis." [G: Yeah.] Yeah.

G: I think there's also the fear that, you know, Dean was afraid of becoming a demon, and as Manika said, it was like, his biggest fear. Like, Ruby told him, like, "I'm a demon because I was human, and then I tortured in Hell," etc. and Dean was afraid that was gonna happen to him. And now Sam is here, drinking demon blood, foreseeably maybe turning into a demon, so, I don't know.

C: Yeah, I think that's probably part of it. [G: A part of it, yeah.] They just seem to have completely forgotten about that after 4.16. Like, the writers- Like, we have, like, Dean's whole, like, in 4.21, he's like, "I'm gonna continue heroically enacting medical abuse on my brother because I draw the line at him, turning into a monster." And at no point, like- You'd think the fact that, like, he did torture and like, he's ashamed of doing torture and that's like, related to demonness would come up. [G: But it never does.] Like, if you have one line how like, "I fucking wish someone like, went down in Hell and like, chained me up in a room so I couldn't torture people anymore" or some random bullshit like that, I feel that would have brought together his [both] arc a lot better than like, whatever the fuck he was doing in 4.21.

G: Yeah. Okay. Well, can we talk about Cas now? [laughs]

C: Oh, sure, yeah.

G: Yeah. So what are our thoughts on Cas? I mean, this is his beginning, so. [C: He's new.] He's new.

G: He's he's a new character. It is like, I mean, Cas's arc is actually very clearly delineated. Is that a word? Yes. But it's very clear, like, what they're trying to do, when they were doing it. I feel like there's less like, room to waver because he's new. This is like, the first time we're meeting him, and, like, you know, with Dean, it's like, he already was a complex character going into this. Sam, too. And Cas is like, well, he is, you know, he's God's angel, and now he is turning into something else! Wow. What are your thoughts on Destiel? What's your situation?

C: Wait, are we there already? [M laughs]

G: No, no, no, I'm just asking. I'm just asking.

M: I'm gonna be honest, when Cas was first introduced, I was like- I was super excited because upon watching the show from the very beginning, I had to Google, like, "When does Castiel [G: Of course, yeah.]- when is he introduced in the show?" You know, the Google says, like, "Season 4," and I was like, "Okay, bet." But I think, like, the previous episodes, of course, previous seasons did a good job in setting up the show towards the Apocalypse. So when Dean's like, you know, crawling out of the field, in the grass, and he's like, crawling his way out of Hell, it's like, "Oh, snap!" And I'm like, "Ooh, Cas is gonna come in at any minute." He comes in the first season. I'm like, "Hell, yeah." And I love Season 4 Cas because he adheres strictly to angelic doctrine. [G: Yeah.] As in like, he has, like, an unwavering commitment to what Heaven wants, and his interactions with Dean are so stoic. [G: Yes!] Like, it's so funny because Dean is a normal person.

G: Crystal has a term for it! Crystal has a term for it. He's statue-moding. [C: Yeah.] Like, he's acting like a statue in a lot of his stuff with Dean. And like, I do think that is so true, yeah.

M: Yes. I do wanna say I'm glad that Cas has stayed. I feel like with Anna, it would have been cool to see her stay, but the thing is, with like, Anna, she fell into the born sexy yesterday trope, where, because they're angels, they don't understand humans and how humans work, like, life on Earth, so they only know, like, the way Heaven works and what Heaven tells them about Earth, and the fact that, like, Anna slept with Dean-

C: She lived there for 20 years, though. She was born into a human body.

G: Yeah, she was human.

C: Sh had her like, past, her parents, and all that shit. So like, I think she had been living on Earth, experiencing it fully for 20 years.

M: We're talking about the redhead, right?

C: Yeah, yeah. [G: Anna.] [M: Okay.] Because she chose to fall from Heaven and be born human there. She had a childhood. Like, they talk about her at age 2 screaming about how she's scared that her dad will kill her. [G: Get killed by her dad, yeah.] Her God memories coming in, or whatever. But I mean, she was only 20, though, [laughs] like, in her mind at the point that she sleeps with Dean. [G: Yeah.] And I think that is kind of iffy.

G: Yeah. That is also a thing that I felt.

M: Yeah. You guys are right, you're right. I was just gonna say that like, I feel like if Anna stayed on the show, she would have fell into the born sexy yesterday trope, which is basically when, like, an alien or like, you know, a girl loses her memory, or like, they're not from Earth, and so they depend on, like, the first man they've ever met to guide them, and then they somehow see this man as also like, a love interest, so to speak, and- The earliest sample I have of it that I've seen so recently is Bella Baxter in the movie Poor Things, which is the newest movie with [with G] Emma Stone. It kind of falls into that, yeah. So I'm kind of glad that Anna wasn't really included in. I was gonna say, Castiel is like, very... enigmic? [C and G: Enigmatic.] Yeah, as a character. But I feel like if he was a woman, then he would kind of be like Anna. So I think having two characters that are kind of like, not fully there, it's kind of like, that's a little too much. One is enough, you know?

G: I do think a more direct point of what you're trying to make is like, fundamentally, because Anna is a woman, they would feel they need to make her a love interest. [M: Yes.] And that is like, you know, [laughs] Supernatural is a terrible show who handles their female characters incredibly terribly a lot of time. And like, 'cause what they did was they were like, "Okay, we're going to bring Anna in, and she's gonna be a type of character. And also, she's going to be Dean's love interest." And because the love interest didn't really particularly work, like, they didn't have much chemistry, Anna and Dean, they were like, "Okay, let's just throw away the entire character," and that is incredibly irritating to me, because, like, you're the one who dictated that all of your female characters need to be like, a love interest, or like, a mother figure, you know? Like, you're the one who made that category, that like, you know. And it's like, you're right that because Cas, well, is a guy like, there is a feeling of "he's not gonna fall into the usual tropes of whatever whatever because he's not gonna be treated like a love interest." It is just annoying because it is like, a- Like, that's Supernatural's fault, you know? Like, that's not because of Anna as a character. [M: Of course, of course.] That's because the show just deals with it so terribly. Like, me and Crystal, like, whenever Anna shows up, we talk constantly about like, "Oh, where could have they taken this character?" blah blah blah. But the thing is-

C: Do we talk about it constantly? I feel like we haven't talked about it sufficiently.

G: Really? You think so? Well, yeah, like, when we do that, it's like, "Oh, what would happen to Anna?" blah blah blah, "Where could they take this character?" But the thing is, Supernatural would just never do it because they have already set their mind on what Anna is supposed to be, and because that doesn't work, it's like, "Well, she couldn't be anything else," unlike Cas, who's like- I mean, they will try many things with Cas's character through the years. And it's like, "Oh, it doesn't work. Well, let's just bring back the blah blah. Let's just-" you know. And Supernatural, fundamentally, is a show that gives its male characters more benefit of the doubt when something doesn't work, and that is a sort of gripe for me.

C: Also, like, regarding "the love interest thing didn't work out so they threw her away," like, the thing is like, obviously the idea that, like, angels don't experience romantic or sexual attraction is like, untrue, and also, I think, like, kinda like a dumb idea to work with, but like, I feel like there was ground for them to just go like, "Angel!Anna is a new character, [G: Perspective.] and like, therefore doesn't feel the way about Dean that, like, human!Anna did. And thus, like, we don't have to put her in the love interest role anymore, and she can like, have a new role in the story," but they threw her away instead. Like, in 4.20, like, she shows up, and Dean's like, "Hey, you're looking good." And she just goes, "Not appropriate, Dean." [G: "Not the time!"] [laughs] So like, if the love interest thing didn't work out, which it didn't, they had like, a perfectly fine avenue to go like, "Well, it's no longer an option for either of them. Okay, well, now, what do we do with this character?" [G: Yeah.] But they didn't.

G: I mean, like, [laughs] many people have said this, but like, the reason why Supernatural does end up becoming like, gay is because they would only, you know- [laughs] Because it is misogynistic! I don't know. Like, they wouldn't develop any of the female characters, they wouldn't let them stay for long, and so-

C: Yeah, what happened to all the pussy on Supernatural?

G: Exactly. And it's Castiel. [laughs] Yeah. Yeah.

C: [laughs] They just had to love interest-ify him at the end because they were out of other options. But he was always- I feel like Destiel was always there. But, okay, I do wish that- He says he's expressing doubts in 4.07 already, and then, like, they just don't do anything with it, for, like, 9 episodes.

G: I feel like they do! [C: What do they do-] Okay, never mind. You're right. 9 episodes. Yes.

C: Yes. 16 minus 7, baby!

G: Yeah. I mean, I was fine with it. [C: Yeah.] I feel like it is essential for Cas's character that it is the last episode of this season that he does his turn, you know? That he gets turned around.

C: Still wish he had a better reason to get turned around in 4.16 than "Seeing Dean do torture makes me sad, 'cause I wanna fuck him," [G laughs] but oh, well.

G: Oh, well. Yeah. I feel like there's not really much to discuss about Cas yet.

C: 'Cause he talks about his feelings out loud to Dean and Anna, so there's nothing really to like, tease out. Like, we know what he thinks.

G: He's pretty clear-cut at this point, yeah. Oh, I'm so excited for Cas next season! They're going to be Team Free Will, the three of them! [C: Mm-hm.]

M: I do think it's like, great that Cas who is like, a new character in the season, did find it within himself to like, question like, "What's going on in Heaven? Why is this happening?" And in the last minute, he decides to like, help Dean to avert the Apocalypse because he's influenced by Dean. And he starts questioning like, his divine orders, and like, and they're trying to like, figure like, "What is free will? Like, what would that be like?" you know, to fight Heaven and help Dean avert the Apocalypse, it's this act of rebellion [G: Yeah.] that is very different from like, the character that we're introduced to as Castiel, and like, bringing in more complexity for his character. And it's like, the foundation of who he is, who he's going to be in the next couple of seasons. So we're just starting to see Casiel kind of like, get out of the shell. He's still, like, you know, very stoic and like, still very much, like, naive to the way of the world. But he's navigating what it means to like, have morality and like, free will, and like, what that looks like for him. And like, Season 4's just the beginning for him. [G: Yeah.]

C: Wish we knew why he didn't want the world to end, though. [G: Because there's people!] [M: Yes!] Like, I know that it's just that world ending equals bad, but like, do we see him care about people, though?

G: Because if there's anything to die for, it's this! [laughs] As Dean said.

M: He has a bond with Dean. It's literally his bond with Dean.

C: Okay, okay. I don't- is that it? [G laughs] Like, "Dean doesn't want the world to end, and so I just won't make the world end"? Because he was already doubting in 4.07!

G: Of course. You know, he's doubting, he's doubting. But here is a person that he relies on to be right about these things, and he's saying that this is the right thing to do. And I do think that means something. Like, if you're on the fence-

C: Why is he relying on Dean to be right about things? Do we see him looking towards Dean as a moral authority?

G: [overlapping] Because he's hot! I don't know. [laughs] Did you hear what I said? I said he listens to Dean because Dean is not.

C: I did hear what you said, but it's not a true statement, [G laughs] so like, I don't see how that's relevant. [laughs] But-

G: Well, I mean, I don't know. I feel like Cas-

C: Okay, what's the textual backing of him viewing Dean as a moral authority?

G: Well, I mean, it's just, you know, him being able to tell Dean that, you know, like, "I don't know what's right or wrong here" [C: Yes.] and then Dean in that moment being like, "ell, I think this is what was right and this is what was wrong." And I think in that moment, he does internalize that. Also, he always like, sets himself parallel to Dean. He's always like, [C: Yeah, "Do you swear to-"] "your dad, my dad." You know, he always does that. And so I think he does see himself, as like, you know, a mirror to Dean.

C: Well, okay. Well, why does he think that? What does he see of himself and Dean? Just the father relationship?

G: Sometimes, you just do! I think maybe the father relationship. [C: Okay, the father relationship.] Also like, just a weird admiration. Like, he went to Hell, battled his way through Hell to save this guy. [C: Yeah, under orders.] So like, there is going to be an aspect of "There is something with this guy that is special, that I did all that to get to him."

C: But, it's because he was under orders, though. So it's like, "Heaven thinks there's something special about this guy." But like, there are ways to go with like, rejecting Heaven that involve like, "Well, if Heaven thinks he's special, and I don't trust Heaven anymore, like, why should I trust him?" Like, there are different directions. You can go with that. Like, why did the direction that Cas chose- why did he choose that one?

G: I think it's just at some point, he had a profound bond with Dean. [C laughs] No, I mean, like, you know, "If it was anything- I would give anything not to have you do this." in 4.16. [C: Mm-hm.] Like, that's sincere. And it's like, at that point, Dean has ceased being an instrument of Heaven and more of like, a person that Cas has a personal connection with. Yeah, like, at the beginning of the season, like, you wouldn't imagine Cas Season 4, Episode 2 saying, "If it was something, I would give anything not to have you do this." to Dean [G: Yeah.] if he asked Dean to torture, then, because they haven't gone through anything yet together on Earth.

C: Yeah, they have been through much together, you and I.

G: Oh my god. [laughs] Yeah, crazy line still. But yeah. I think the beginning is like, "Well, that's a guy I saved, and so it's interesting that Heaven wanted me to do that, and that I went through all that stuff to do that." And then towards the end of the season, it's like, everything else that we went through together.

M: I was just gonna say that I feel like Dean is the only person that Cas has had, like, a true connection with. [G: Yeah.] 'Cause all the ages are very much the same. They're all very stoic. They're all kind of like, to the point. They're all very matter-of-fact, they only do what Heaven tells them to do, and he hasn't been exposed to any kind of vulnerability until he met Dean. So I feel like with Dean, he just really moved him. [C: I think-]

G: I mean, he has a connection with Uriel and Anna. I do think that is something.

M: I mean, I think that's a different connection, but yeah.

G: Because with Uriel, I think Uriel is asking something different of him than what Dean was asking. Anna was asking something similar, but Ana was already painted as like, automatically bad [C: Right, fallen.] by virtue to because she is fallen. And I think Dean straddles that line of like, asking Cas the thing that appeals to Cas the most and, again, like, being like, "good" in Cas's head, because "I went through all that trouble to save you."

C: Yeah, I do think that a component of Cas's connection to Dean that I haven't thought about that much earlier is the fact that, like, this is happening at the same time as like, Cas's other relationships deteriorating. [G: Yeah, you're right. His entire garrison got killed.]

C: He had his garrison, they were his family. But then, like, yeah, first, like, Anna chooses to fall to Earth, and like, [M: Yeah.] she's gone. And he's been like, working with her, and like, she's been his sister for like, thousands and thousands of years, so like, that had to have shaken him up at first, and also probably made him think about Earth and humanity [G: Yeah.] a little differently. Just the fact that she chose to do that at all. And then members of his garrison keep getting killed off, like, weekly because of the Apocalypse. [G: Going to Hell-] And then, like, he's in charge of his garrison and shit now. [G: Yeah.] He's in charge of it now, and then he gets demoted [G: The Uriel thing happens.] and then the Uriel thing happens, where someone he's trusted for thousands of years, but who has differing thoughts on humanity than him, [G: Yeah.] turns out to have been betraying everyone the whole time and being like, the cause of the like, many other deaths in their garrison. Like, 7, was it? Like, that week, or something?

G: Yeah. I mean, his social life was dying also. Also, his corporate life was dying. He did get demoted. So I get it. [all laugh]

C: Yeah, no. This is like, a time where he would overprioritize his connection to Dean in his head because it's the only thing he has during this time of instability for him.

G: Yeah, I mean, we've discussed this one with the line, like, "We've been through much together, you and I." because, like-

C: Yeah, we were like, "He hasn't." But like, maybe to Cas, yeah.

G: To Cas, it does mean like, a lot. Like, this is a lot for him. Well, I think that's all for Cas.

C: Wait, I'm still curious about his feelings about humanity because we get like, bits of it in 4.07, and then we don't later. I want to know more.

G: I think Cas and humanity is a situation that will happen more in 5 and 6, specifically. I think those seasons have a more of a focus on that because Cas just interacts with more humans. [C: Right.] Like, which humans does Cas interact with here. Sam, sometimes, [C: Sam and Dean.] and Dean, mostly. So like, I feel like Cas's actions towards humanity is less-

C: [laughing] Well, he had to imitate Bobby's voice on the phone in 4.15. [G: This is true!] He and Bobby could be making out sloppy in that junkyard every day. [G laughs] We don't know.

G: This is true. Well, yeah.

C: 'Cause currently, he likes humans in the abstract, as he says, to like, Uriel, "It's blasphemous to call humans mud monkeys" or whatever, yeah.

G: 'Cause they're God's creations.

C: Yeah, 'cause they're God's creations. But as his relationship to God like, becomes more and more tenuous, I'm curious about like, the new reasons he'll have for loving humanity.

G: Yeah, at this point, Cas is still like, "Heaven wants to kill all humans or whatever, but God doesn't." Like, that's still his perspective, really. [C: Just like Aziraphale.] Yes, it's true. He goes into Season 5 thinking this, so yeah, that's the situation. [C: Mm, yeah.]

G: Well, let's do fave eps. Manika said something about "Yellow Fever." Is that your fav ep, or is that just an ep that you just like?

M: I do like "Yellow Fever." I like it. I like "Yellow Fever." I don't know if it's my favorite. I mean, you're gonna have to come back to me on that, because I'm not sure if I know my favorite quite yet.

G: Okay, do you have a least favorite? [laughs] I feel like a lot of times that's easier to say.

M: A least favorite?

G: I have one, actually, like, at the cuff. It's "Wishful Thinking." It's so bad.

C: [laughing] Oh god, it's so bad! It's so bad! Take it out. Get rid of it.

G: Do you even remember this, Manika? Like- [laughs]

M: I do. The bear. The bear.

G: Yes, the bear. Oh, the bear was fine. The bear was fine.

C: The bear, that was silly, goofy, [G: Yeah, it's wonderful.] I love the child actor that they got for Audrey. That was fine.

G: The rest of the episode was horrible! [C: Frowing up.] I don't know. What other terrible episodes are there? "Monster Movie" was a little bit bad.

C: Wait, should we say why we hate "Wishful Thinking," or will the audience just understand?

G: Well, why do we hate it?

C: Okay, well, I think there's two things. The first thing is like, the misogyny and horror in like, the storyline of- What's her name? Hope? Like, the woman who's married to the guy who initiated the first wish. [G: Yeah.] And the second one was just the ideological and consistency about why making the wishes is bad and then [laughs] Sam literally saying- what? That like, what makes life life is that you don't get what you want, and you're miserable forever, and that's good? [G laughs]

G: Yeah. No, I mean, I think the main complaint really is for me the whole like, Hope situation, and also the fact that they focus on [both] the guy's feelings. "Oh my god! It's so sad that she's not in love with me anymore after the spell that made her in love with me was gone!"

C: Like, you ruined her life. [G: Yeah.] You made a wish, hoping it would come true, that she would ditch her family, ditch her friends, ditch her job, come live with you, do nothing but please you and make you roast chicken and then offer sex to you whenever you felt bad. And like, now she's gonna like, come back to reality with the memories of like, all that happening, and like, the horror of that, and have to rebuild her life from scratch after being essentially mind-controlled for a month.

G: Yeah. And like, I think, "Wishful Thinking" really cements to me who, I suppose, who Supernatural thinks is watching the show. [C: Men.] Yeah, men. [M: Yup.] And, I mean, it's very obvious from a lot of episodes of Supernatural. But this is the one where it's like, "Oh, okay." It's not even that they think men are the primary watcher. It's that they think men are the only ones watching, or like, they are the only ones watching that we [C: Care about.] are obligated to or even care about catering to. So yeah, that was a bit of a "Oh, okay. Well, that's horrible."

C: And I talk about it in the episode for it, but like, this is a Ben Edlund problem because I think the moment that I had that feeling was in Season 2 with "Simon Said," [G: Yeah.] where like- Is her name Tracy? [G: I forgot.] Okay, there's like, this woman that- what's that guy? Is his name Andy? [G: Andy mind controls-] No, no, Ansem Weems is the one who mind controls her. [G: Twin.] Okay, yeah. Andy's twin is like, an awful guy who, like, mind-controls women to rape them, and then like, makes them like, jump off of a bridge and kill themselves after or whatever the fuck. [G: Yeah.] This woman is also the love interest of Andy, his brother. And then, at the end of the episode, like, once she's been rescued like, she's like, in the ambulance and shivering and stuff. Like, she's been through like, the worst thing ever. And then Andy approaches her, and she like, is scared of him because she knows that he has mind control powers [G: As well, yeah.] like his brother. And the episode ends on his face looking sad that she rejected him in this moment of like, absolute horror and trauma for her. And that is also a Ben Edlund episode. [G: Yeah.] I don't know, this guy just has a thing where he's like, "I'm gonna make women like, the victims in this episode, but like, in a way where like, it only matters [G: Yeah.] because this causes them to reject the men that you're supposed to feel bad for in the episode."

M: Oh yeah, that episode was really bad! [C: Mm-hm.]

G: Yeah, I mean, so many episodes of Supernatural are like this. [laughs] I mean, yeah. But also, Ben Edlund, specifically, [C, laughing: Is like this.] you go into his episodes, and, like, he has good episodes. This is true. "On the Head of a Pin" is his, right?

M: He did "Mystery Spot" and "Changing Channels," too. [C: Those are fun.]

G: Did he? He also did "The Man Who Would Be King," his most iconic one. [C: Oh, yeah, yeah.] But like, lot of the times, you go into his episodes like, "I hope he doesn't write women this episode." [C and G laugh]

M: He also did the Cupid episode, too.

C: Oh, "My Dirty Valentine." [G: Yeah.] He does have a lot of bangers [G: Iconic ones, yeah.], but he's really bad about women. [laughs] [M: Yes.]

G: Yeah. There's also ones where it's like, "Well, that's horrible," yeah.

C: So yeah, I agree. "Wishful Thinking" is the worst one.

G: Manika, do you have a worst one of Season 4?

M: I would have to say- of Season 4? [G: Yes.] In my opinion, I think "Monster Movie." [G: Mm, yeah.]

C: I didn't like "Monster Movie." Because now that I've read Dracula, like, what the fuck are they on about in that one? [G laughs] That is not what happens in Dracula.

G: That is also Ben Edlund! Yeah.

M: Yeah, that's why it's my least favorite.

G: You know what? I would do an honorary mention to- what is that? "Family Remains"? [C laughs] Kinda bad. [C: It wasn't very good.] It's not as egregious. I don't think it's that bad, it's just also not good at all. [laughs] I mean, it's an interesting concept. It's just, I feel like the whole family moral that they had at the end where it's like, "It's fine that the dog died and that also the uncle died because the nuclear family is fine!" was a bit crazy.

C: Yeah. And they just witnessed their dog's throat slit and their uncle impaled in front of them, but it's fine. They're hugging each other.

G: Yeah. Well, okay. Best episode? Favorite. Well, not best. Favorite episode? What's that.

C: I'd say 4.21, even though it's also so awful.

G: It's a lot of thought. Like, you think about it a lot, I think.

C: Yeah. All the Sam hallucinations, besides, like, the useless Alastair one, were like, well-written, well-acted, brought together a lot of things that like, I was like, "Why aren't they talking about this this season?" Like, I feel like it was a really good conclusion to the Sam arc that they had for the season.

G: Okay, my answer would be "Lazarus Rising," but I feel like we shouldn't add "Lazarus Rising" in the mix just because, well, I mean, obviously. But for me, I think "It's a Terrible Life" is the best episode this season. [C: Mm.]

M: Oh, "It's a Terrible Life"'s a good one.

G: I love it! I love it. Lots to say, but I think it's good.

C: Huh. We have two Sera Gambles as the favorites so far.

G: Well, I mean, I think "It's a Terrible Life" is like, I do feel sad that it doesn't inform a lot of the future decisions Sam and Dean make. [C: Yeah.] Like, it feels very isolated, right? Like, it's a big episode. Like, Zachariah is revealed here.

C: It should be a big deal. 4.19 should also be a big deal, but it isn't.

G: But like, they don't really reckon with what they learn here, to the point where sometimes I'm like, "Do they even remember that? Like, did they forget?" But yeah, I think it's so wonderful, and I do think, like, viewing the rest of the season with the lens of what happened in "It's a Terrible Life" is like, an effective way to view it, you know? Manika, have you figured out your favorite episode?

M: Yes, I have. [G: Let's hear it.] My favorite episode is "On the Head of a Pin." [C: Good point, yeah.] [G: Yeah.] Yeah. 'Cause I just like that it goes a little bit deeper into Castiel's character, and then, like, he really has to like, think about his loyalty to Heaven, and he has to confront, like, the brutality that it would take to win a war against Hell. [G: Yeah.] So yeah, it also, like, I feel like "On the Head of a Pin," I don't know if I'm gonna regret saying this, but it really is like, kind of like, the start of the Destiel storyline. [C: Yeah.] Because the complexity-

G: I agree, yes. [M: Yeah.]

C: I think "I would give anything to have you not do this" is like-

G: Well, it's crazy! [M laughs]

C: - the first moment anyone would be like, "Wait a second. This goes deep."

M: Yeah, yeah. That's more than just like, a plea. That's like, "Okay, that's a little desperate." [C and G laugh]

G: I mean, I think "On the Head of a Pin" is like, it is the first episode in this season that, like, starts with angels in the like, teaser portion of the episode, you know? Like, before the splash screen, it was Cas. Like, Cas, was the opening of this episode. And, like, you know, I think, that sets the tone of what the episode would be, which is, it's bigger than Sam and Dean. Like, it's not about them. And like, I like that. I like that. [M: Right, right.] Yeah. Should we talk about Destiel? I feel like we should. Or shouldn't we? [laughs]

C: We could talk about Destiel. Though, okay, wait, there's something that I forgot to mention when we were talking about the Cas arc that probably doesn't matter, but I think the contrast between Cas's absolute coldness towards the Novak family in 4.20, and then him turning around and deciding to save the world and humanity is something that I wish they'd smoothed over a little bit. [G: Yeah.] And I know he was just recently brainwashed by Heaven, so that's probably part of it. But like, I feel like 4.20 could have been a really good opportunity to show like, "Okay, when Cas first possessed Jimmy, like, he traumatized Claire for life by going, 'I'm not your father' and then fucking off forever. But like, maybe now that he's had more time on earth, he's talked to Dean, like, he's learned to care about humanity more." Like, maybe when he repossesses Jimmy and leaves Amelia and Claire, like, just like, one word of comfort, or like, one look or something, and it would like, show that he's changed as a person, in like, how he cares about people, and like, that would be a better lead-in to him like, deciding not to end the world in 4.22. [G: Yeah. Yeah, you're right.] But we don't get that, and I feel like that could have probably fixed most of my issues with the Cas arc in Season 4,

G: 4.20 Cas is like, I don't know. He's like, he DGAF. [C: Yeah.] He absolutely does not care about the Novaks. And then, you know, we go to 4.21, and he's looking at Dean in that crazy scene like, "Oh my god, Dean, I'm saurr sad." [C laughs] And it's like, it is a bit like, of a jarring thing if you- especially if you like, are watching for the Cas. [C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.] It's like, "Oh, what the Hell?"

C: Yeah. I also just find, like, "He didn't end the world because he wanted to fuck that one guy" [laughs] as like, not a particularly interesting idea to me.

G: Well, I think it's so interesting. [C and G laugh] I think it's so funny.

C: Anything that points to him having larger values around the sanctity of life or whatever the fuck, I would like.

G: I mean, as I said in our 4.22 episode, like, I don't want to overstate how much Dean influenced Cas to stop the Apocalypse, but I also don't want to understate it. [C: Yeah, yeah. It matters.] Like, it does matter. It's not the only thing that matters, but it does. [C: It's a main thing, yeah.] Yeah. But yeah. I think our next part is- well, Crystal, you're supposed to discuss the thing. [M laughs]

C: Wait, what thing?

G: Like, where's the fucking spreadsheets, right?

C: Oh, is that now? Okay. But you said, "Should we talk about Destiel?" and then we didn't talk about Destiel.

G: You're right! Well, do we have anything to say about Destiel? I mean, like, for me, honestly-

C: They do want to fuck each other. It is true. I did see it on my screen, how they wanted to fuck each other. I don't know that they're romantically into each other yet, but they do want to fuck each other.

G: I think I am just surprised that- 'Cause, you know, when you're in the fandom a lot, you interface with Destiel a lot, so there is a tendency to be like-

C: Yeah, "Maybe you're overstating it" or whatever.

G: Yeah, like, we are in a community where we are engaging with it in this way, so of course we're going to, you know? But seeing the show and the Destiel scenes with the context of the show, it's like, "No, it is real. Like, it is happening on my screen." And it is a bit of a shock, even if I knew it was gonna be there that it was really there, the intensity that it was in. So that's all I have to say, really.

C: Manika, do you have Season 4 Destiel thoughts?

M: All I have to say is that they tried to tell them that it wasn't happening, and girl, [C: It was.] the one thing that they don't do is look back at the source! Because if it's one thing [claps], the Supernatural fans will do, [claps] is they will revisit. [C: Yeah.] They revisit, okay? They will cite their sources. Alright, you put it in the show. You wrote the show. [C laughs] Lots of people who were writing on Season 4 were still writing on the show [G: That's true, yeah.] until Season 10, Season 11, and those same people would go into conventions and laugh or chuckle at the even mention of Destiel. [C laughs] I am a firm believer that like, maybe you shouldn't bring up ships around actors 'cause they could feel uncomfortable. But you couldn't tell us it wasn't happening because you wrote the show. [G: Yeah.] You wrote the line, sir! We're not dumb!

C: Okay, do we think it was an acting or a writing thing that carried Destiel in Season 4? Like, do you think that there's a character that could have the same lines that Cas has-

G: [laughs] I mean, here's my hot take. I think it's the directing. [laughing] I think Robert Singer did this! [C laughs]

C: The blocking? Honestly, yeah, I'm on your side with that one, yeah.

G: Like, I think it's just like, this is where they stand. This is how they-

C: They didn't have to stand that close. Robert Singer was like, "Few inches closer. Go."

G: [laughs] No, yeah. Like, a lot of the times when we talk about Destiel in Season 4 specifically, it's about the blockings. It's about the vibe of the scene, how the scene looks in comparison to other scenes in the show of the season. Like, something I say a lot about Season 4 Destiel is like, a lot of it is so quiet. A lot of it like, happens at night, in the privacy of anything else. And the reason why is because they're trying to make Cas mysterious and, like, you know, specifically like, mysterious and talking to Dean. But the way it comes off is like- I don't even know. Like, they're just hanging out.

C: Yeah. At night, in the dark, standing very close to each other.

C: Okay, so I guess let's start with the tab on the spreadsheet that I call "Writer Sins" [laughs], which is our misogyny, racism, and homophobia stats. So under misogyny, the episode we ranked as the most misogynistic was "Lucifer Rising," written by and directed by Eric Kripke, which we gave 4 misogyny points for-

G: Really? Because it ends the Ruby story? Is that why?

C: Yeah, 'cause it's the way that it ends the Ruby story. And you also had an especial aversion to the [G: Oh, the nuns.] the way that the nuns were killed in that episode. [G: Yeah.] Following that, there are three episodes that got 3 misogyny points, and those are "Monster Movie," [G: Hell yeah.] "Wishful Thinking," [G: Hell yeah.] and "The Monster at the End of This Book." So yeah.

G: Yeah. I can't believe we put "Wishful Thinking" at three! We should've got that higher, but oh well.

C: We should have. We should have put it higher. I think I think we got more liberal with our points after we came back from RubbishPod because we weren't as inundated in the Supernatural bullshit.

G: Yeah, yeah, you're right. We're just used to it.

C: So under racism, the episode we ranked as the most racist was "On the Head of a Pin" by Ben Edlund, which is 'cause it concludes the Uriel arc, I believe, [G: Yeah.] so that got 3 points. And then the other, [laughs] second most racist episode [G, laughing: It's so funny.] was "Heaven and Hell," which had 2 points, and I think that's also because the way they treated Uriel as a character.

G: And Ruby's-

C: Right, and also when Ruby possessed a Black maid and the director's choice [G: The way that was directed was-] Yeah.

M: Oh, that was weird.

G: It was very odd, yeah.

C: They were like, "Suddenly, she is sassy in a new way." And it's like, "Interesting. Why is that?"

G: Yeah, like, Ruby has been in two- three vessels at that point, right? And it's like, "Well, why is this the only one that's different? What's that about?"

C: Yeah. And then for homophobia, obviously, our winner winner chicken dinner is [with G] "It's a Terrible Life" by Sera Gamble.

G: [laughing] I love it!

C: Love it, love it. [laughs] 'Cause the whole thing was like, "Wouldn't it be gay if you had a job in an office?"

G: "Wouldn't it be funny if it was gay?" yeah.

C: Yeah, yeah. And after that, we don't have a 4 points of homophobia. We don't have a 3 point homophobia. The next one is a 2-point homophobia on "Criss Angel is a Douchebag" by Julie Siege because of, I think, the way that the magicians were reacting to the new one, Jeb or whatever.

G: But they were also gay.

C: Yeah, I mean, we know in our hearts that they were also in a polycule. : Oh, and also, The fucking Chief! [laughs] I forgot about The Chief! [G: Oh my god, yeah!] That's probably why.

G: You haven't been had [overlapping with C] until you've been had by The Chief.

C: Love that. And then, if we just added up everything, like, [G: Per writer?] the worst in terms of social ills was "Lucifer Rising," which we gave 5 total points. Also, not one of our categories, but of course we gave 4.21 5 points for ableism [G laughs] for the way they treated Sam's addiction. [G: Horrible.] So it is also pretty bad. In terms of writers themselves, this is a fun season because there's no one-off writers like, at all. [G: Yeah.] In Season 3, we still had guest writers. In Season 4, it's like, the team. [G: Yeah.] Eric Kripke, Sera Gamble, Jeremy Carver, Kathryn Humphrys, Ben Edlund, the Dabb-Loflin duo, which will become a Dabb solo thing eventually, right? And Julie Siege.

G: Eventually, but still a long time from now.

C: Yeah. For our writers, our most misogynistic writer is Eric Kripke, who had an average of 2 2/3 misogyny per episode over his 3 episodes. He is also our most racist writer, [C and G laugh] with 1 1/3 average racism points per episode.

M: Lord. Lord, if you guys- [C laughs] [C: Yeah?] I just wanna speak on that real quick. [C: Yeah. Yes.] I feel like that hasn't changed.

G: The Boys?

M: Yeah. [C: Oh, tell me more.] Because if you look at the recent casting for The Boys, and like, they're adding like, two women to the cast, and one's a Black woman, one's a white woman. And they're supposed to be like, the new antagonists. So now I'm sitting here like, "Okay." If you don't know anything about The Boys, if you haven't been watching it, I'm like, "Okay, so, you really setting us up [C and G laugh] to do this, and yet Homelander will still live? Is that it? Like, what's it gonna take? Hello?"

C: Yeah, I haven't seen The Boys. Who's Homelander?

G: It's a main character, right? Or am I completely lying.

M: Homelander- Yeah, he is one of the main characters.

C: I thought the main character was an Asian woman?

M: So, there is an Asian woman in the show, [C: Okay.] [G: I love her.] and she is one of the main characters, but she also doesn't talk, you know, fulfilling the silent Asian trope, which we love. But Homelander is also like, the main antagonist, who for some reason doesn't die, and for some reason hasn't been killed yet. And if you've seen the meme of that one guy-

G: Of that guy, like, looking around and like, smiling, kinda. Is it that one?

M: Yeah, that's a Homelander.

C: I don't think I've seen this meme. Or the description-

G: I'll send it to you at some point, don't worry about it. [C: Okay.] And you will recognize it immediately.

C: Mm-hm. In terms of homophobia, our most homophobic writer is, of course, [with G] Sera Gamble! Because of what happened in "It's a Terrible Life". So she has an average of one homophobia point per her 4 episodes. But that's just 'cause we gave her 4 points at one time. [G, laughing: Love that.] So for like, totals, Eric Kripke is the worst, an average of 4 writer sins per episode, which means that he committed 12 throughout the season, which is quite a few. And then runner-ups for worst writers in terms of social ills are Ben Edlund, average of 3 1/3 points total for his 3 episodes, and then Julie Siege, who had an average of 2 2/3 points for her 3 episodes. So yeah. [G: Love that.] That is the state of things. Huh, if we want to have a comparative look between seasons 4 and 3, there are more points in Season 4 than Season 3. [G: But Season 3 is so short.] Like, our worst writer in Season 3- Well, this is averages. Our worst overall writer in Season 3 was Ben Edlund, who had 2 2/3 average points per episode. So comparing to the 4 points max in Season 4 with Eric Kripke, either we've gotten looser with our points-giving or they've gotten worse as people. [laughs]

G: Okay, IMDb. Did I win? Did I lose? What's the situation?

C: You lost. [laughs]

G: Are you serious?

C: You lost.

G: That's so sad!

C: I know. This never happens.

G: Wait, I'm going to go to our doc right now- This is so horrible! Well, why did I lose? What's the situation?

C: Okay so, why did you lose? I guess for the two of us, we each only guessed one episode correctly for the IMDb score. I guessed "The Rapture" correctly, and you guessed "Monster at the End of This Book" correctly. [G: Yeah.] For our most off guesses, for "In the Beginning" you guessed it was an 8.4 on IMDb. It is a 9.2, so I think that did a lot of damage to you. [G: Yeah.] You also, guessed "Metamorphosis" a lot higher, you guessed "Great Pumpkin" a lot higher, same with "Criss Angel," and then you guessed "Heaven and Hell" a lot lower. So I feel like those were the main hits that you took. I was 0.7 points off on "Metamorphosis"; I thought it was ranked higher than it was, and I also thought that "Criss Angel" was more beloved and that "Yellow Fever" was less beloved, so those were my major points off. [G: Yeah.] But basically, your absolute difference, on average, from the IMDb score was 0.332 and mine was 0.314, so I was closer [G laughs] than you were by a smidgen, [G: Boo.] though really, the real winner of the season was Danica, who only guessed on one episode, "Lazarus Rising" and was off by 0.2. [G laughs] So her average offness is 0.2 points, which is a lot better than both of ours.

G: I love it! Yeah. [C: But yeah.] What is the surprise episode here? I think "When the Leevee Breaks-" "When the Levee Breaks" where I'm like, "That is low. I thought it would be higher."

C: That's true. That's also a surprise episode, both of us guessed it to be at least 0.5 higher than what IMDb gave it. In terms of how each of the writers fared on IMDb, Eric Kripke was the most beloved, 9.17 average IMDb score. But that's just because he gives himself like, the finale and the first episodes and shit. And then, after that, Ben Edlund had an 8.7 av, Dabb and Lofflin, 8.63, and then Jeremy Carver, 8.6, and then Sera Gamble and Julie Siege had the worst IMDb scores with an 8.55 for Gamble and an 8.5 for Siege.

G: That's not true!

C: Oh, no, sorry! The worst, I forgot, so bad I forgot about her, [G, laughing: You're so mean!] was Cathryn Humphrys, 8.2.

G: No, but like, I think "Metamorphosis" was good. It was just not rated high.

C: Yeah, it just was not rated high. "Sex and Violence" was not very good-

G: "Sex and Violence" was interesting. It's also just not rated high.

C: It was not very good.

G: Okay, so, for our final bit, we need to rank Season 4 in comparison to all the other season. So currently, our ranking is 1, 2, 3. [C: Right, yeah.] Where's Season 4? Do we think- I think Season 4 is better than 2 and 3, for sure. Do we think it's better than Season 1?

C: It's been so long. Like, I don't know.

G: Honestly, I think Season 1 is better.

C: Than Season 4? Okay. [G: Yeah.] I am inclined to rate Season 4 higher just because I don't remember Season 1 so good, and also, it had like, [laughs] "Bugs" and the racist truck and all that shit in it. Like, I feel like there were probably some real clunkers in Season 1. [G: Okay.] There were also some real clunkers in Season 4, though, so I don't know.

G: I think we shouldn't think of it as individuals. We should think of it as a whole. Is Season 4 as a whole better than Season 1 as a whole? And I think Season 1's better.

C: When I think of Season 1 as a whole, like, I'm thinking about like, "bad moon rising," the fic. I don't know what Season 1 is outside of the concepts of "bad moon rising" the fic, so, I don't know. [G laughs] I'm just gonna put Season 4 higher for now. I don't know. I don't know. I mean... No, I miss Meg. I miss Meg. No, [laughs] Season 1's better.

G: Wait. I wanna hear what Manika is going to say about this. [C: Okay.] Do you think Season 1 or 4 is better?

M: Season 4 is definitely better. [C: Okay.] [G gasps] It's found its footing, it's better writing, the characters are finally, like, being introduced to higher stakes. [G: Yeah.] There's more to lose. There's a lot more that we have to like, deal with, and there are new characters being introduced, so we don't know who's gonna last, we don't know who's gonna, you know, be in Season 5, who's gonna be written off, essentially. So Season 4 is definitely better. 'Cause Season 1 is literally like, the starting off point where they're doing just like, [G: Whatever, yeah. They're just doing whatever.] monster of week and trying to find their dad. Yeah. Season 4 is really when Supernatural [clapping] hits the ground running. Season 4 is definitely better.

G: I think that's true if we're talking about the plot. Like, the plot does get better in Season 4. This is true. 'Cause in Season 1, they really were just fucking around.

C: Yeah, they were fucking around, occasionally thinking about their dad

G: I think Season 1, vibes-wise... I don't know! Like, I mean, on one hand, Season 4 is where Cas shows up, so that is important to me in that way. But Season 1, I feel like, it's like, Season 1 Sam and Dean, I like them the most. [laughs] What do you think? Honestly-

C: I'm being swayed by Manika a little bit. [G: Well.] Yeah, like, the monster of the week format in Season 1 is kind of tiring.

G: No, the thing is, when we were watching Season 1, we hated it. [C laughs] [C: Yeah.] But it's like, a good season to look back on, [laughs] if you're not rewatching it. Okay.

C: Right. So it's only good in the mind and not on the screen?

G: [laughing] Okay, I think maybe we should put Season 4 up because I did just say that Season 1 is bad on screen. [C laughs]

C: I mean, I also think Season 4 is bad on screen. [C and G laughing] Like, this isn't like a "Both are so good, I'm trying to figure it out." This is like a "Which one can I tolerate more?" thing to me.

G: Honestly, I think it's just because Season 4 is sad. Season 4 is a sad season, especially if you're watching it from the Sam perspective. It's very-

C: We were crying, like, every other week in Season 1, and like, we barely cried in Season 4.

G: Well that's because we were really into it! That's true.

C: So there has to be a reason we were crying so much.

G: It's because it was effective. It's because, as I said-

C: So Season 4 isn't effective?

G: No, Season 4 is effective in what it's trying to do, and it's trying to do plot. [C: Right.] Season 1 is effective in what it's trying to do, and it's trying to do character, I think.

C: Okay. Well.

G: Well? What if we just put them side by side? What do you think? What do you think?

C: Seems like the coward's way out to me. [G laughs]

G: This is true. We're just like John Winchester for real. Well, I'll put Season 1 above. Yeah, that's my final answer.

C: For the sake of equality, I'll put Season 4 above.

G: No! Wait, we're going to have different rankings?

C: Oh, wait, was there a requirement for us to come to a BABPod consensus on this?

G: Yes. [C: Okay.] But, I mean, it's because we had a consensus in 1, 2, and 3. So we can have like, a "we're splitting off" in Season 4, just like Sam and Dean [C: Just like Sam and Dean!] in Season 5. [laughs] Yeah.

C: I still don't even know if I believe it, though. 'Cause Season 1 is so- I think of Season 1 so fondly in my mind [G: I do.], but I think that's just 'cause I haven't watched it for like, a year. [laughs] More than a year.

G: I think- yeah. [laughing] And see? Back disagreeing. Well, let's just separate. Let's tread different paths.

C: Okay, okay. Manika, you said that Season 3 is sort of like, your fave, though, right?

M: I like Season 3 just because it's fun. But Season 4, arguably, is the best.

C: Got it. Okay, so our ranking- Well, my ranking right now is Season 4, then 1, then 2, then 3. Grey's is 1, 4, 2, 3. What are your rankings for the first four seasons of Supernatural?

M: I would probably say, if I had to rank them, it would be 4, 3, 1, and 2. [C: Mm.]

G: 4, 3, 1, and 2. [M: Yeah.] That's fascinating. You really like Season 3.

M: Yeah, I do! I mean, I feel like Season 3 has the most like, fun, meta episodes, and ir doesn't really take itself too seriously. But also, like, it was in the middle of the '07 writer's strike and only has 16 episodes, so they were just kinda doing whatever. [C and G: Yeah.]

C: I do think that like, "Ghostchasers-" or no. It's "Ghostfacers"? Yeah. [M: "Ghostfacers," yeah.] I think that "Ghostfacers" and like, "Mystery Spot" are definitely a good, fun time. I think that the last few episodes of Season 3 were quite underwhelming, and that's probably what caused us to dislike it so much by the end. But I mean, like, Bela was there. Like, that was fun. [G: Yeah.] Wait, why don't you like Season 2?

G: I mean, it's nothing against Season 2 or anything like that, you know. Like, let me ask you, what did you think of Season 2? And I'll give you my answer.

G: Horrible! We hated it.

C: Yeah, I felt pretty annoyed during a lot of it. I feel like they just did a bad job with the overarching plot, I think, where they just completely dropped the psychic kids thing-

G: It was really good when it started.

C: Yeah, yeah, like, 2.01 was a banger. We hated 2.02 because of the ableism.

G: Actually, it was also really good when it ended, I feel like. [M: Hm.] [C: Was it?] So why did we not like it? [laughs]

C: Was it good when it ended? [G: AHBL?] How good was AHBL, though? Like, did we like it that much? I mean, they treat Jake horribly. That's like, the main thing I remember about it.

G: I mean, I don't know. But again, Supernatural is very much a show where it's good in retrospect. So like, now that we're thinking about it, it's like, "OMG, it was real good. Like, what did we not like about it?"

C: I mean, is it? Was it real good? Like, I remember "Simon Said," which I did not like. 2.01 was really good. AHBL, like, the main things I remember about that are like, being mean to Jake and then John Winchester rising from Hell [G laughs], clapping Dean on the shoulder, and then disappearing into Heaven. [G: Yeah.] I think I liked Jo and "No Exit," like, her presence, and, like, Ellen's presence was something good in Season 2. But I was frustrated that they didn't develop the overarching plot very well.

G: Yeah. Season 2, like, everything just entered, like, at the end. There was no buildup in the middle of the season. But I would say that it's kind of like, again, the vibes situation. Like, I like the vibe of like, "Sam and Dean are here, and their dad just died, and they're trying to find their way around the world with that." And I think Sam's character arc that season was interesting, of like, "I hate Dad!" And then, like, he dies, and it's like, "Well, he was right, probably." And Dean's, you know, experiencing the opposite of that arc, and I was really into that.

M: Yeah. I feel that. I think the reason why I'm not a huge fan of Season 2, 'cause if I have to put it up against the fourth seasons, I'm just gonna say Season 2 is maybe not like- I don't wanna say it's bad [G: But it's weak, yeah.] but it's a little weaker, you know? They introduce the chase for Azazel, and that's interesting. And then they bring in Bobby, who I love. And then there's like, the complex prophecy behind Sam's destiny leaking into like, other children with special abilities. Like, you mentioned, there's an episode where, like, the brother- That's in Season 2, right? Where the brother has the mind control. [C: Yeah.] That's also the same season. So Season 2 is kind of like, trying to continue on with Season 1, but they can't really do monster of the week because you're still introducing new things, you're trying to follow, like, a storyline, and there's supposed to be like, something we're chasing at the end of the season, all this other stuff. So I think that Season 2 is really when Supernatural is trying to build something more [G: Yeah.] out of what the show really is, and they're just first finding their footing. So it's just kind of like, the first start. The first step, I guess I would say.

G: It feels a little bit like a bridge season, I understand.

M: Almost, yeah.

G: I think that's how I feel about Season 3 more, and that's why I didn't like it as much. But yeah, I mean, I don't think you can blame that necessarily on Season 3 due to the circumstances in which it was created, you know?

C: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Season 3, I didn't like it very much because it's just like, the season where they try to prevent Dean from going to Hell, but I know he's going to Hell anyway.

G: Yeah, I feel like it would be much more effective if you didn't know that, you know. Like, if you're like, "Oh my god, he really does go to Hell at the end? What the hell?" So yeah. [C: You're right.]

So that’s it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next week, we will be, I don't know, like- [C: 5.01?] Well, we will be doing Season 5, Episode 1. What's that called? Whatever it's called. [laughs] What is it called? 5.01...

C: It's "Sympathy for the Devil."

G: Yeah, well, we're doing that. But before we leave, Manika, do you wanna tell the audience where to find you, how to contact you- "contact you" [laughs], but yeah.

M: Yeah! Yeah! You guys could find me- you can look up my podcast I've Been Meaning to Watch That, and you can listen to it wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can find my podcast, you know, where you listen to podcasts, you can follow us on TikTok. Definitely check out our YouTube 'cause we upload highlights, like, at least twice or three times a week, and we have a full video version of the podcast up every Monday afternoon. And you can find me on TikTok at my first name 3000 [@manika3000] and follow me on there 'cause I like to talk about movies and TV shows and do analysis on TikTok. And that's about it. Thank you so much for having me on, guys. This was really great.

G: Yeah! Thank you so much for coming here!

C: Yeah! It was so good having you, yeah! [G: Yeah!] [M: Yes!]

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Life Recently 01

I only have a month before sophomore year starts and honestly, I am quite nervous about it; simply because our university is trying to do a blended learning setup for this academic year which means attending some lecture courses online and some lab courses on-site are being implemented.

The reality of my college program suddenly started to kick in, I am worrying what if the difficulty level of my program done in face-to-face would be ten times more difficult compared to when I was doing it online.

This is what you get kids when you enter a program that is not in the spectrum of your interests lol. Learn from me, okay? It's nice to seek opinions and advises from other people but always remember, your dreams and aspirations for yourself must outweigh the dreams and aspirations of other people for you. Ask yourself, will I be happy if I enter this program? or will it just be detrimental to my own personal growth?

Well, enough with the college life updates; previously on gwy's anatomy *insert grey's anatomy background music* lol

currently I am:

Reading

The Summer I Turned Pretty by Jenny Han for the nth time just because I just recently watched the series and it was amazeballs! No kidding, it has now become one of my comfort shows to date.

Listening

Atlantis by Seafret. I have been playing this song on repeat for the past week since I heard this song on Tiktok. There is something with the lyrics of the song that would always make me want to reflect on my life decisions in general lol. Thank you Tiktok! Always down for good music <3

Watching

Extraordinary Attorney Woo on Netflix. I am still in episode 3 and I must say, it's an interesting k-drama. Personally, I prefer medical dramas compared to law related ones simply because I aspire to become a doctor and my interest is really in medical field and I find people in law firms/law school intimidating. However, Attorney Woo Young-Woo made me watch her show. It is very touching and made me regret more for not pursuing Psychology as my pre-med. A must watch!

Thinking

About tomorrow. Perhaps this has been part of my night routine―thinking about tomorrow.

Smelling

My frozen white chocolate mocha drink from Starbucks. I bought this earlier and decided to keep it in the freezer to make it cold enough for tonight's writing sesh.

Hoping

For a better tomorrow and a good July-ender moment. How come we are almost near the end of July? Although good things have happened already during the past weeks but you know, you can never escape the bad ones... and I just hope July has a way to make up for it since it's my birth month. lol.

Wearing

My old school sportfest green t-shirt and comfy shorts. My go-to sleeping attire when all of my peejays (pj's) are in the laundry.

Craving

For ramen aaaaaa!! The cold weather makes me want to eat ramen more, ramen from ramen nagi is the way to go! Hopefully tomorrow I can have one.

Feeling

Anxious. Honestly I don't know if this feeling is me or the coffee lol. I am feeling anxious about the uncertain future that awaits me; hoping that it's the future that I have been playing in my head.

#life recently

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Good Vibrations

~A/N -

So I'm now addicted to Daredevil cause of this lil anon:

"I’m not sure if you’ve watched daredevil (Netflix) before but in case you haven’t: Matt = daredevil and his best friend is foggy. Matt is blind however all other senses of his are heightened, touch, hearing, smell, taste. He can “see” but only through sensing where things are through vibrations in air. Ahh this is long I’m so sorry but could you write a fic where Matt is being tickled because he’s too stubborn to rest after getting bruises as daredevil? with Foggy as the ler! If not it’s okay :)" - Anon

I was like oooooo excuse to make myself start I show I've been meaning to watch for ages and I'm so damn glad I did cause I love Matt with all my heart he is best boy <3333.

I also tried to not use any visual cues (like I normally do such as wiggly fingers or seeing them grin etc) to make it more realistic to Matt so hopefully it doesn't completely mess up the reading experience. Lemme know if you think it's cool or it sucks.

But yeah hope this is what you were looking for nonny!!

- Enoy! ~

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"Client is a 36 year old man, presenting with matters of grievous bodily harm in relation to his 23 year old coworker." The audio player growled, as Matt paced around his living room.

Well, paced was a generous word. in reality his movements were more similar to a limp or hobble.

After a particularly nasty attack from a group of testosterone-fuelled young adults who somehow got the jump on him, the daredevil had suffered a number of purple bruises and weeping gashes across the left side of his face, down his torso, and a nasty looking bump on his right shin (thanks to him kicking an elbow).

"While the prosecution insists this is an open and shut case-" A sudden click ended the voice, and Matt turned around with a soft sigh to face his best friend.

"You look like shit." Foggy chuckled, his body thumping down into the couch.

"Like I can tell." Matt smirked, moving back towards the audio player to continue listening.

"I feel like you shouldn't be moving around too much, maybe patch up those cuts on your-"

"I'm fine." He cut him off, and swiftly changed the topic. "There's something about this case that I just can't put my finger on."

After a brief second of his fingers shuffling across the table, Matt clicked play on the tape and the voice droned on once more. Sure he could sit down to listen, but he wasn't going to give in to resting that easily.

He could feel Foggy grow more restless by the second. The couch crinkled softly with his every move, his foot tapped impatiently against the carpet. Even his breathing was becoming agitated.

"Look, it wouldn't hurt you to just relax for one nigh-"

"I don't need to relax, trust me." Matt gave a soft chuckle of annoyance. "Are you gonna listen to this or-"

"Nope." The man continued. "You need rest, Matt. REST."

"Ain't no rest for the wicked."

Foggy grumbled, abruptly thudding the couch with his hands and pushing himself up. "Don't make me come over there."

Matt couldn't hold back a bark of laughter. "And what exactly are you going to do?"

The second he asked that question, however, Foggy's heartrate elevated in what can only be described as evil excitement.

"Foggy?" Matt stumbled backwards, finding his own heart beating at what felt like twice the normal speed. "Foggy what are you-"

He didn't have the chance to answer that question before his best friend tackled him to the ground.

"Damn Murdock..." Foggy tittered, wrestling his partner until he was sitting on Matt's hips, Foggy's knees clamping Matt's arms to his sides. "I thought you'd be harder to fight than this."

"Shut up!" Matt grunted, trying to throw his opponent off him. But it seemed no matter which was he turned he was completely stuck.

"Now."

Uh oh.

Matt was suddenly overloaded with the sense that something was slowly coming at him. It refused to stay in one spot, almost wriggling and writhing as it made its way down.

"Foggy??" Matt squirmed nervously. "What the hell are you playing at?"

"Oh I think you'll know, but one last chance." Foggy said with a tone of threatening glee. "Are you gonna rest? Or am I gonna have to tire you out so bad you'll fall asleep once your pretty little head hits the pillow?"

"Screw you." Matt played up his bravado, but every nerve in his body was begging him to fight or flee from whatever this terrifying threat was.

"Your choice!"

And with that, twenty vibrations of pure ticklishness pulsed into Matt's abdomen. He let out a squeal before descending into helpless cackles. His nervous system was on fire as Foggy's unbearable fingers danced in what seemed like 50 places at once. One second they were squeezing his hips, the next they were scritching along his ribs, then spidering over his neck (which Foggy decided was his favourite, cause Matt scrunched up his shoulders and his face crinkled in an adorable smile). He was impossibly good at this, and it was driving Matt insane!

"Are you gonna go to bed yet?" Foggy teased over the deafening noise of Matt's barking laughter.

"NEHEHEHEVER!" He blurted out, writhing in mirth and ticklish agony.

"Are you suuuuuuuure?" Foggy drawled, suddenly removing his hands from Matt's extremely sensitive stomach.

"Foggeeheehee!" The poor victim sucked in air, his mouth stuck in a constant beam. Matt tried to sense where his friend would strike next, but it seemed like his senses were completely fried. Like someone had shoved a 50,000 volt battery into a TV remote and expected the buttons to work perfectly. And while this would normally be incredibly traumatising for the man, he was still essentially high on giggles and didn't have a care in the world. It was almost a relief to be fooling around like this.

His break didn't last long, as without warning Foggy's weight shifted. Matt could feel his friend's knees were now closer to his calves, where before they were pressed against the sides of his stomach.

"Fohohoggy?" Matt giggled, awaiting the next onslaught.

"Yesss?"

"Pleaheeheeheese lemme gohoho!"

"Huh." Foggy chuckled. "The great Daredevil begs to be released. Will you go to bed?"

Matt could feel his cheeks burn up, but the silence was all the tickler needed.

As soon as Matt felt something tug at his shoe, he burst into more uncontrollable giggles, anticipating exactly what was coming.

"Foggy plehehehease!" Matt practically squeaked as his shoes were flung off his feet, wincing as fingers squeezed the tips of his toes through his socks to pull them off.

"Sorry buddy, no can do." Foggy sighed, cracking his fingers. "Time for tickles!"

"FOGGEEHEEHEE!"

The incessant scratching sensation sent electricity jolting up Matt's legs, eliciting squeals and superspeed little leg kicks (to the best of his ability, seeing how his best friend is still sitting atop his calves). Once again, Matt's senses were blinded by the tickly vibrations echoing around the room.

There was nothing he could do but squirm and occasionally jolt upright when Foggy squeezed his knees, giggling and cackling all the while. The tickles seemed to grow and grow in both intensity and sensation, before suddenly stopping completely. The lack of stimulation was deafening, and Matt could barely concentrate on his own breathing nevermind what Foggy was planning.

It didn't take long to find out though, as matt's arms were pulled from cuddling across his chest to pinned above his head. The cold floor and Foggy's warm legs created a Matt's-arm sandwich, but the contrasting sensations were the least of his worries. Soft vibrations were projecting towards Matt from right above his face, and this time he knew exactly what it was.

"Fohohohoggy!" He scrunched his cheeks in a face-splitting grin, gently trying to wiggle his way out from underneath his friend. "Stop wihihiggling your fingers!"

Foggy gave an amused exhale through his nose (you know the one), the breath tingling Matt's face. "No, I don't think I will."

"Buhuhut it tihihickles!" Matt squeaked, trying his best to hide his ears behind his trapped arms.

"How??"

Matt cursed under his breath. The tremors in the air were somehow making the hairs on the back of his ears stand up, sending goosebumps shooting down his back and legs. Like strokes from the softest tiniest feathers, his ears were overcome with gentle tingling sensations making his cheeks light up in a gentle pink fade.

"Oh this is precious man." Foggy teased. "But even I'm starting to get tired so let's wrap this up shall we?"

"Nohohoho!" Matt snickered weakly.

"You don't wanna stop? Awww cute."

"That's nohot what I-" Matt began, but was rudely interrupted by 10 wriggling fingers plunging into each of his armpits. Somehow poking and prodding against what felt like the rawest nerve in his body.

He shrieked and screamed and tossed his hips from side to side but there was no escaping Foggy's cruel fingertips. Like twenty tasers shooting directly into his central nervous system, it didn't take long before Matt's breathing turned to wheezes and his struggling became pitiful squirms of ticklish mirth. "OHOHOHOKAY I'M DOHOHOHONE!"

"You're done?" Foggy asked, refusing to show mercy just yet.

"YEHEHES IHIHI'M DOHOHONE!"

"Alright~!" Foggy sighed in a sing-songy voice.

Finally, Matt could shoot his arms back down and roll into the foetal position. Still giggling as the residual tickles worked their way through his extremely sensitive system.

Once the poor man had recovered, Foggy helped him to his feet and guided him to his bed. The second Matt's head hit the pillow, he was out like a light, grin still plastered across his face. Foggy ran his fingers through his best friend's hair a few times, cause as much as Matt would hate to admit it, it was once of his favourite things for someone to do to him.

Standing up, Foggy grinned at his best friend.

"Goodnight you stubborn asshole."

He flicked off the light switch, and gently shut the door.

And that night was the best few hours of sleep Matt ever had.

#fic #mine #tickle fic #tickles #tickle blog #i hope this is cool and doesn't read super weird #fingers crossed #also hope this is the sort of thing you were looking for anon!!!#daredevil #daredevil tickle #matt murdock #foggy #lee!matt #ler!foggy #matt murdock tickle #ticklish matt

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hqcult · 3 years

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SWITCHING POSITIONS ## akaashi keiji

doms and subs are overrated. it's hella fun being a switch and keiji couldn't agree more.

. tw smut, switch! akaashi, switch! reader, some baby girl and baby boy calling, mommy kink, sir kink, drunk sex, unprotected sex (dont try this at home), oral (m receiving), creampies, slight degradation . wc 3.8k

the night is young. as young a night gets for two college students after finals week. while countless people from different frat houses have already invited you to come to their year-end parties, you never really enjoy that scene. it's too much of an effort to dress and doll yourself up when, after such a stressful week, you just want to wind down and get drunk here in your dorm with your best friend.

plus, keiji tells way more compelling stories than boys you've encountered at parties and that's saying something, considering you had been drunk as a skunk but didn't find them funny at all.

yeah. offense.

right from the get-go, you figure he's never one for small talk but there's a fondness in his eyes when he talks about his days as a volleyball player. he becomes more loose-lipped, sharing to you memories of his teammates and games. you really didn't care whatever topic he chose to talk about, you just know you'll listen to him anyway. it's great listening to him talk with that comforting voice of his.

"you know," you lean your head back against the couch, cozying up in your hoodie. "maybe you should start a part-time job as a youtuber. you can be one of those people who do asmr videos or something." you chuckle, finding the random thought amusing.

"but i'm already on a full-ride. i don't think i need to get a part-time job," he lies comfy on your couch. one arm hanging, hands over the can of beer.

you sighed staring up at the ceiling. "lucky. it's hard maintaining grades when your professors are a bunch of snobby assholes who don't care about their students."

his knee nudges the back of your head lightly. "don't say that," he scolds. "that's bad. they're still your teachers."

always so polite.

just as you reach forward for another slice of pizza, akaashi speaks again, eyeing you thoughtfully. "well… maybe i can start an asmr channel and we can split the money i earn."

you laugh, torso turning around to face him. you bring the beer can up to offer a toast.

"see, this is why i love you, keiji."

after clicking his can with yours, you turn around to have a bite of your pizza — completely missing the red flush on his cheeks, thrown off-guard by the strong proclamation you just made, albeit he knows you probably meant it in a platonic way. he didn't know what to say next so he took another swig of his drink.

he doesn't know. really. what triggered him to look at you as something way more than a normal friend would. for someone so self-aware as him it's frustrating not knowing how and when his feelings for you even changed. because the only time he realized he was knee deep into liking you was when he was also at the brink of losing you.

which reminds him…

"what happened to that guy you were texting two weeks ago?" he asks.

"ah, him? he's too… what's the word, assertive? intrusive? i don't know — it's like he wants to monopolize my time. like he wants my whole world to revolve around him and it's… kinda creepy actually."

akaashi scoffs, sitting up to get a slice of pizza. "you guys were only talking for two weeks."

"i know! that's what i'm saying!" you say, hands wildly gesturing to and fro. he's afraid you might spill the beer. "like — dude. maybe it's either he needs to chill the fuck out or i'm just not into doms. or maybe he's a walking red flag."

he hums thoughtfully, slumping next to you on the floor before dusting his hands off from pizza crumbs. "he's a red flag. obviously."

"okay but random thought: doms are overrated," you reach forward to open another can of beer, thinking out loud. "subs too. i feel like it's kinda tiring being a top as much as it is being a bottom. being a switch, on the other hand, is like getting the best of both worlds and who wouldn't like that? it's some good hannah montana shit."

now akaashi keiji can't help but laugh at that. "are you drunk? how did our conversation end up this way even."

you bump his shoulder, laughing with him before drinking your beer. "oh, come on. humor me a little, keiji. think about it. i'm right. aren't i?"

"and how do you know?" he turns his head towards you. "have you been a top? or bottom —"

"i have," the smile you gave him sent butterflies to his stomach. "both. back in my all-girls high school. being a bottom's not too bad but… eh, still. i'd rather just be a switch. it's exhausting to top all the time."

"don't i know it," akaashi mutters under his breath. flashbacks of all those awkward and embarrassing endeavors filling his mind. "guys are always expected to top. it's like a stereotype. can't i just sit back sometimes and follow orders, too?"

he feels the heat crawling up his neck and it makes him shrug off his jacket, leaving him with the plain white shirt underneath.

"i can give you orders."

akaashi almost chokes on his beer.

"you literally just said it's exhausting to top."

you shrugged. "yeah, but — i mean, it is! it is but… you know."

he can see exactly how embarrassment is taking over your features and he wants to stop and move on from the conversation. he wants to. he should. but there's an inkling feeling inside him that doesn't because he wants to see how this unfolds. his heart is beating erratically and he can't take his eyes off you since that little comment you made.

"i'm sorry," you chuckle, a dismissive tone in your voice. "nevermind. anyway…"

akaashi shouldn't entertain his thoughts.

it's improper. you're his best friend. literally one of the few people who he's managed to befriend in college. he can't lose you. he can't risk being awkward with you. his not-so-platonic feelings for you should never get in the way of that. never. plus, you're both intoxicated right now and you were probably just kidding around. akaashi isn't that kind of guy. he respects you. he should dismiss the conversation but —

"then give me orders."

you froze. eyes widening as you stare at the forgotten netflix movie playing on your laptop, unable to look at the man sitting next to you. afraid of the weight of his stare. you didn't know why you blurted out whatever you did a few seconds ago but you never thought he'd entertain it. not that you mind, anyway. this is your best friend we're talking about. well-mannered akaashi keiji with the ocean eyes hiding behind those cute square glasses.

the akaashi keiji you've been crushing hard on since you saw him at the freshman orientation two years ago.

"would you… spread your legs for me?"

light rustling can be heard as the microfibers of his socks drag against the carpeted floor. just as you reach forward to push back the coffee table, akaashi beats you to it and does it for you. making sure to push it far so you won't accidentally hit your back on the edges.

with one smooth swing of your leg, you're sitting snug on his lap. the rough fabric of his jeans grazing your thighs as your hands tremble whilst dragging down the planes of his torso.

akaashi grabs your hands, stopping you.

"you look hesitant. you don't need to do this if you don't want to." his tone is low, understanding as always.

you look at him straight in the eye. leaning forward until your lips are all but grazing each other as you spoke. "i want to. i want you."

you dive down to start peppering kisses down his neck and you hear him let out a shaky sigh. you lick a stripe up the side of his neck before kissing the shell of his ear. "go on, keiji. you can touch me. don't you want to touch mommy?"

you feel him shudder, his dexterous fingers mapping random lines underneath your hoodie, slowly raking higher and higher until he's saying "mommy, please take it off" in low hushed tones. the blush in his cheeks prominent as he can't seem to stare at you in the eye. so cute. so submissive. so stupid thinking you'll let him undress you so easily.

"did i say you can take it off?" you hiss, reaching down to cup him from over his jeans and shoving his hands off you. "don't tell me baby boy is being bad, are you being bad? i thought my baby keiji's a good boy for his mommy."

"but… but i am a good —"

akaashi hisses, knees jolting when he feels you tracing circles on the insides of his thighs with the tip of your nails. for someone who just claimed they didn't like topping, you're doing an impeccable job at it and he doesn't know whether or not he loves it or hates it. when your sneaky little hands unbutton his jeans and teasingly pulls the zipper down, okay, no, he definitely loves it. the determined look in your eyes as you pin your gaze on his features, watching like a hawk at every furrow of his brow, of every sharp intake of breath, every time he throws his head back.

"if you're such a good boy why don't you strip for mommy, hm? won't my baby boy give me a show?" he can't take his eyes off you as you smile, sultry, leaning over to lick at his bottom lip as your ass slowly grinds against his jeans. how merciless you are, when you gave him a peck and pulled away. "go on. strip and sit on the couch."

blindly reaching around the coffee table, you grabbed whatever beer you can hold before raising it up to your lips and staring at him over the rim of the can as he throws his shirt off. you suck in a breath when his abdominals come into view. his torso lean and smooth, siding a little more on the petite size with a tiny waist. and you shamelessly check him out even more when he leans over and hooks his thumbs under his jeans, pushing it down.

you didn't speak until you saw the black waistband of his boxers.

"those, too."

he pauses, looking a little lost. "i'm sorry, what —"

"everything, baby boy. i want everything off… including those boxers. wanna see your dick throbbing. bet baby boy's already hard because mommy kissed his neck and gave him hickies, isn't he? bet you'll love it if mommy licks you all over, or when mommy rides her baby boy's cute thighs. would my baby keiji like that? would you? does my baby boy deserve it?"

damn were you good at this. the more you spoke the more it's making him ache and he wastes no time in shoving everything down. true to your words he was throbbing. the mushroom tip oozing precum and his dick standing tall. maybe it's the alcohol in his system or maybe it's the desire for you that he had kept locked away for so long, but akaashi can't bring it in himself to feel embarrassed. not when you're looking at him like you want to devour him whole.

the same bright eyes of his adventurous best friend who's stuck by his side since being wide-eyed first years in this huge university — he'll probably never see you in that same halo ever again, already tainted by the image of you now.

he sees you swallow, eyes never straying away from his girth and akaashi feels a little proud to have you looking star-struck. when you rise from your seat, his muscles tense in anticipation, staring at your hand as it slowly reaches forward — only to pause mid-air.

akaashi looks up at you questionably and he sees the unspoken question in your eyes, asking for his consent. and your baby boy's answer was instantaneous.

"please, mommy. touch me?"

the smile on your face was cocky. definitely cocky as your hand wraps around his girth, the other wrapping around his throat as you coo. "aw, how can i resist when you're asking so nicely? why don't you sit on the couch and i'll grant whatever my baby boy wants, hm?"

he mewls, leaning back on the couch and eyes you with lust. "like this, mommy?" he mutters, desperate. he even tilts his hips up a little to offer you a better view as you hum in approval, straddling his hips as you stroked his cock.

"such a good boy for mommy, aren't you? how pretty."

he hisses when he catches sight of you kneeling before him in between his legs, looking at him with the most captivating sultry gaze he's ever seen. "mommy's gonna give you a 'lil prep, yeah? so it won't hurt when i ride your dick, baby boy."

"yes, momm — ugh."

akaashi throws his head back when you finally wrap your lips around him. the image of your hollowed cheeks forever ingrained in his mind. his eyes fly close, focusing his attention on your swift tongue as it lies flat against the underside of his cock, taking him eagerly from the base to the tip. your tongue swirls around the head, sneakily poking around the hole where precum oozes out.

"mommy," he whines when your tongue travels back to his girth, tracing one of the prominent veins in his dick before your hand comes up to play with his balls. "mommy — shit. so good… feels so good…"

it urges you on, hands retracting to wrap around whatever your mouth couldn't cover. his back is arching and you suck him with fervor, eager to push him to the edge, to make him believe you're going to lick and play and suckle until he's creaming around your mouth — only to pull away at the last minute.

"no!" he moans, looking down at you desperately as you rise from your seat. "i was-i was gonna cum!"

you dismiss him easily with a wave of the hand, too busy shuffling out your clothes. maybe if you had the energy, you would've punished him a few rough spanks but you were far gone already. thoughts of that dick splitting you in half as you ride him consuming your mind like a plague.

akaashi groans when you hop onto the sofa and crash your lips on his. you never would've imagined kissing him this way. sloppy and wet and painfully induced with lust. the stretch is amazing, there was the lightest stinging sensation but was overridden by pleasure. he groans, pulling you close and peppering your shoulders with kisses.

you grabbed his shoulders and started bouncing on his lap in a slow, stimulating manner that made you feel every vein and curve of his cock as it deliciously drags against your walls. you hear him wine. you hear him talk about how it hurts and how he can't take it anymore. how he needs his mommy to move faster. faster, mommy. please fuck me faster. but you ignored him, so caught up in domspace to see the growing irritation in your baby boy's eyes. to see the sudden shift from clinging onto you so desperately to gripping possessively against the soft flesh of your sides.

the air was knocked out of your lungs when he slams you down on the sofa.

"you dare ignore me?" his face is passive, eyes cold and steely as he pinned you with a dark stare. "time's up. i think you got a tad bit carried away there, don't you agree?"

"want me to show you how it's done?" you shiver in excitement when he takes your wrists in one hand. his thighs flex as he gets on his knees before hooking your legs over his shoulder, thrusting his dick deeper into you. akaashi bends forward, a hand firmly gripping your face. "i want you to address me as 'sir' and nothing else, do i make myself clear?"

his low assertive tone so painfully attractive you clenched around him as he drills into you with vigor. akaashi chuckles, the low rumbles of his chest stimulating your perked nubs as it grazed against him with every thrust. "yeah, you like that? like it when i speak to you like this? ah, fuck you're so tight. you're pussy's practically choking my dick — look, fucking look, baby girl."

your head grazes his as you both watch his member disappear inside you, getting off at the lewd sight of the glistening sheen of your essence wrapped around his cock and the loud squelching noise it makes when he rams it into you again. you whimper, pulling akaashi down for a kiss as your ankles hook around his back, pulling him deeper as his pace quickens and his balls slap against your skin.

"see that? your pussy keeps sucking me back in. bet you're desperate for my cock, aren't you?" you never thought akaashi to be the type who's into talking dirty, you thought he was the gentle, vanilla type. but alcohol always brings around quite interesting things about a person after getting drunk.

you cling onto him for dear life as his hand reaches down to draw figure eights against your puffy clit, eliciting the most feral of moans from you that could rival that of pornstars. "sir," you shudder. "please, sir. please."

"please what?" he grabs your lower back, pulling your torso up to hit an angle that makes you see stars.

"please, let me cum! please."

akaashi clicks his tongue before raising a perfectly plucked eyebrow. "you didn't listen to me when i was the one begging, why should i listen to you?"

your hands wrap around his neck, sobbing against the crook of his neck by the sheer pleasure you felt. he can't understand your mindless babbling. all inside keiji's mind is the feel of your perked nipples grazing his chest and your plush walls wrapping around him so prettily. he never did it raw, having you as his first time doing it without a condom pushed him way over the edge than he wants to admit.

"be-because — ah — i didn't —"

akaashi hauls you up into a sitting position, arms wrapped around you securely as you straddle him. he yanks you away from his neck, a tight grip wrapped around your throat as he stares straight into your eyes as he fucks up into you, feeling his balls slap against your skin. "what? cock's that good you can't even speak?"

he feels your hips stutter as you sob, tiny hands wrapped around his wrists. you didn't even try bouncing and meeting his thrusts anymore. "sir, please! s'too much! wanna cum —"

"then fucking work for it," he stils his hips. "fuck me back, baby girl. come on. you said you wanted to ride me, didn't you? bet this is what you've been thinking about for the whole night. that's the only thing my baby girl's capable of right? thinking 'bout my cock and nothing else? such a dumb little baby."

your legs quivered and shook as you obliged and pulled yourself half way up, before meeting him halfway and impaling yourself back down his cock. the first time you did it had both of you whining, akaashi quickly threading his hands through your hair to yank your face towards him. he wants to imprint this memory into his mind. to be able to merely shut his eyes and be transported back to the night you both were intoxicated and you let him use your cunt like a fleshlight.

all sense of manners were thrown out the window as his ocean eyes memorized the way your eyes rolled back when he hits a sweet spot, the way your nose scrunches when the pleasure becomes overwhelming, the way the drool shamelessly trickles down the side of your lips as your tongue sticks out and he so badly wanted to spit but he didn't in fear of making you uncomfortable. everything. he wants to memorize everything.

"just a little more, pretty girl. you can do it. together, okay? cum before me and you'll fucking regret it."

he grabs you closer, burying your face in his neck and planting his feet firm on the ground as he pistons his cock into you. it's not the heat of your body, or your pretty cries, or the lewd sound of skin slapping that made him cum. no. it was your sheer desperation and vulnerability as you bit his shoulders and yelled at the top of your lungs.

"keiji!"

he pulled out at record speed and had made a mess on his torso but he was hardly able to register any of these. so fucked out and sated and content to have you sitting on his lap as he stares at your plain ceiling. he doesn't even realize you've dropped down to your knees and started lapping up the essence splayed on his torso until he felt the hot muscle of your tongue. "(y/n) —"

"what happened to baby girl?" you tease, a playful smile on your lips as you meet his eyes. "you were so into it, 'kaashi. you should've seen your face — well, i was… kinda into it too, anyway."

it took akaashi around three seconds for everything to finally sink in, to fully sober up and let the gears work in his head. the realization of what had gone down on your sofa, of the things he told you, brings about an embarrassment greater than anything he's ever felt in his entire life. suddenly, he's shoving you away from him and draping the discarded blanket around your naked form whilst politely looking away. then he quickly covers his soft dick with one of your throw pillows.

"oh, my god. i'm so sorry. this is a mistake — shit — i'm sorry! you see, i've liked you ever since and not as a friend and i swear i'm not the type to just —"

"keiji" you snap him out of it. "i like you too, okay? now don't go around saying it's a mistake or i'm going to throw you off the roof. do you want me to throw you off the roof? right. i don't think so. now, come on! get your sexy ass dressed, we're going somewhere."

"where... are we going?"

"i'm craving ice cream. so for our first date, buying ice cream at 2am!"

#(❁ᴗ͈ˬᴗ͈) mine ༉‧#ˏˋ°•*⁀➷ queue’d!#thirsthours #haikyuu smut #hq smut #haikyuu scenarios #hq scenarios #haikyuu imagines #hq imagines #haikyuu #akaashi keiji #akaashi smut #akaashi keiji smut #akaashi keiji x reader #akaashi keiji x you #akaashi keiji x yn #hq akaashi #akaashi haikyuu

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giorno-plays-piano · 3 years

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Money, Money, Money Part 1

Pairing: mob!Bucky Barnes x Reader, slight Peter Parker x Reader

Warnings: lots of swearing, silly drunk mobs, mentions of alcoholism, parody, Peter is adult, is this a crack fic??

Words: 2578.

Summary: When Steve finds out somebody has stolen their money, Bucky realizes he has to take his ass off the leather couch in his office, finally.

P.S. This is my first attempt to write humor and I’m sorry in advance for everything I’ve written here 😅

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“BITCH, DID I STUTTER WHEN I SAID TO KEEP THAT SAFE CLOSED AT ALL TIMES?”

Allyson massaged her temples softly and let out a groan: if Mr. Rogers continued to yell like that, he would definitely choke soon. This morning he had been pretending to be the death, vengeance and fury, ready to kick the ass of her immediate superior, James Barnes, who acted like he was deaf, unable to pull himself from the couch where he slept after getting drunk as a fish last night. Oh, poor Bucky. Apparently, he fucked things up again if Mr. Rogers stormed into his office like he was getting chased by a 200-pound dog.

“What the fuck is wrong with you, you son of a...” glancing at a pouting man-child with a three-day beard, Steve covered his face with his palm and let out an exasperated sigh, “... respectable woman who would die of shame if she saw you now!”

“Come on, Stevie,” the man yawned, finally moving his huge, muscular body up to sit instead of just laying on the couch since he felt a little guilty Steve was getting all riled up while he just chilled, “why so serious? Yeah, somebody took a bit of cash from the safe, it’s not a big deal.”

Allyson heard everything as if they were speaking right in front of her - Bucky was a real Mr. Cheapo who didn’t want to rent an office with decent walls - and quickly closed her ears, wishing she had taken her earplugs today. Her boss just made a grave mistake, and now both of them were going to pay for it with their eardrums.

“NOT A BIG DEAL? NOT A BIG DEAL, YOU MASSIVE BAG OF DOUCHE?! DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WAS THERE, HUH?! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THOSE MONEY WERE FOR?!”

Seriously, she considered getting a new job, but these free daily standup shows were both tiring and so fucking funny she was afraid she might wet her seat.

“Oh my fucking God, Bucky, I swear I’ll kill you, I’ll... no, I have a better idea!” Steve gave his best friend a dirty look. “I’ll call your uncle. Yeah, you know which one. He’ll be sooo happy to take you drunk ass to jail and then give your mama a call. I bet she has a cure for both your attitude and alcoholism.”

“You wouldn’t do that!”

Suddenly realizing the danger he was in, Bucky quickly got up, almost falling to the floor but holding on the leather chair in the very last second. When Steve talked about calling his uncle, a chief of police of the neighboring town where his whole family lived, it meant things were going bad. Real bad.

“Bucky, it was the part we were going to invest into Pierce’s casino. I have to take it to him tomorrow morning. TOMORROW FUCKING MORNING, DO YOU HEAR ME, YOU STINKING DRUNK?”

“I’m drunk but not deaf, Steve!”

“Oh my God, I’m driving you to a rehab, go gather your stuff right now!”

Allyson sighed, getting up and proceeding to choose the most beautiful cup to fill it with fresh coffee: when their conflicts escalated to threats, it meant her boss would soon start to sweet-talk, apologizing to his best friend and promising to sober up and get things right. Every time she felt like Mr. Rogers would really do something to Bucky, the guy used his natural charisma and charm and got away with anything by just reminding Steve how he fought for his best friend in the dark alleys when Rogers was a sick, skinny kid. It worked every damn time.

There they were again, talking about same things with Bucky swearing on his mother’s life that he will find the money and bring it back to Steve. Usually it meant the threats were coming to an end, and soon Mr. Rogers would open the door and come out red as a lobster, breathing heavily as if he just ran a marathon. There he would see her with a cup of nice coffee with cream and two spoons of sugar just like he preferred, gladly accepting it and saying nobody understand him but her. Then Allyson would smile compassionately, listen to his small talk before he went out the office, and wait until her grumpy boss would fall out the room, reeking alcohol, and ask her what the fuck had happened yesterday.

After that in a couple of minutes things would finally settle down, and Allyson would have a chance to give a call to her best friend.

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Your day couldn’t start better: you had finally received your Amazon order - hooray to the stupid makeup tools you would use, like, once a year - and even watched your favorite Netflix series with a cup of a fragrant coffee with marshmallows because it was Sunday and you were finally free from both work and cleaning the apartment. It felt so nice to just do absolutely nothing, laying on your couch with a piece of pizza in your hand. Seriously, even a workaholic like you had to do it more often.

Your lazy morning was interrupted by Peter, a sweet college student who was getting into troubles more often than a drunk in a local bar: you seriously considered calling him Harry Potter after you found him half-naked with a scratch on his forehead standing in the corridor of your building and holding a broom. To protect himself from bullies, he said, by the look on his face you could tell it was as good as a magic wand against 6"4 ft tall guys, seriously.

Since he rented an apartment with other unlucky nerds who had zero skills how to survive in this cruel world, you ended up nearly baby-sitting Peter, patching him up after he was getting in a fight and lending him some money time after time when he struggled to pay rent or buy food. His parents were elderly people with income below average, but they still did whatever they could to give him an education, so you decided to give the guy a hand.

Now that baby was standing in front of you, lit up like a Christmas tree, with a bouquet of wonderful pink roses, big box of hand-crafted chocolates and a whole bag of what looked like some very fine food, even a bottle of champagne clinking inside.

"Good morning, Fairy Godmother! I came to bring back what I owe you!" His smile was a mile wide when he looked at your face, happy to the point he couldn't stand still, dancing like those Duracell rabbits in the tv ad.

"You're up early, Cinderella."

You yawned, laughing when you saw the guy pouting at the nickname you gave him - tf he expected for calling you Fairy Godmother?

"Don't stand there, come in."

When he actually handed you the flowers and chocolates, giving you a quick peck on the cheek shyly, you froze, finally realizing he brought all this for you. Wait, what? Where the heck did he get so much money to buy that expensive stuff? You thought he was helping his other neighbor who was planning to finally propose to his girlfriend. Perplexed to the point you nearly missed that peck, you blinked at tomato red Peter.

"Please don't tell me you robbed your 90-year-old paralytic professor."

"Why don't you ask if I robbed a bank?" He pouted again, putting the bag on the floor and getting a hundred dollar banknote out of his old leather wallet. "I actually came to thank you for everything you've done for me. And I didn't rob anyone! I got a real job!"

"Real job?" You eyed him curiously. "But don't you already have a job in delivery?"

"Pfft, you can't call it a job. It was getting one nasty smelling pizza from one place to the other while looking miserable."

You barely held your laugh, leaving the bouquet and chocolates on the side table and rubbing guy's back. Poor Peter, nobody was giving him a hand - while you couldn't question people's decision since the guy wasn't the most reliable one, it was still a shame he wasn't treated decently as if all of them weren't young and careless once.

Wait, but who on Earth gave him such a well-paid job all of a sudden? He must have spent hundreds of dollars on the bouquet, chocolates, food and champagne, not even counting those 100 dollars he owed.

Oh God.

"Please don't tell me you're working for some shady business." You looked at him in horror, your hand flying to your mouth. "Peter, is it Tony's band?!"

"Jesus woman, why would I work for some stupid mob." The guy rolled his eyes, and you sighed in relief, not knowing what to except from this trouble on two skinny legs. “I’m telling you, it’s nothing bad! I just have to keep it a secret before I get a contract. Once I figure it out, I’ll explain everything, I swear!”

“Alright, alright, don’t stress over it, I’m not your Ma.” Smirking, you went to take a square glass vase you hadn’t use in ages, filling it with water to drop the bouquet inside. “Let’s celebrate it, then! Woah, careful there, give me that bottle until you drop it on my clean floor, I’ve been scrubbing it for hours yesterday!”

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Bucky still felt like Steve was making too much of a big deal out of it: obviously, it was Tony who went to him at night when Bucky was already drunk like a monkey, celebrating the birth of Clint’s daughter. Nobody else had the courage to steal from him, Steve’s right hand, an ex-soldier who had a reputation of a man killing with the first punch. Not that Bucky ever killed anybody, actually being a ex-trumpet in an army band...

Anyway, the man was heading over to Stark’s Tower, a motel where he and all his guys lived when his wife Pepper was out of town. Pepper had definitely been out of town lately since Tony didn’t call: when she was coming back, Steve and Tony were having a two-day truce with nobody getting in a fight because it was making Mrs. Stark upset, and when she was upset, both Steve and Tony didn’t risk getting out of their holes to face this enraged blonde woman who could make anyone wet themselves with one her glance. If there were anyone killing with just one punch in the town, it got to be Pepper.

As he got closer in his Cadillac that looked like it went through fire and water before being sold to Bucky, Barnes stared at the motel suspiciously: it was strangely quiet with everyone hiding inside, not a man guarding the motel’s entrance. What the hell happened? Tony loved showing off, pretending he ruled over the town, and he would definitely act like a king after stealing Steve’s and his money. It was unbelievable Bucky so nobody welcoming him with a smirk.

Hoping he didn’t use all that money for emptying a liquor store, Bucky parked the car and went to the motel, dying to have some beer: one heartless blonde boss of his emptied his fridge.

“Oh, more drinking partners returning to continue the fun, huh?”

Bucky froze immediately, staring at Pepper who stood in the doorway with a face of an iron maiden. Jesus fucking Christ. She returned to the city way before Tony told him, and it was clear she found him not in the condition she expected to. While Bucky considered whether it was better to run, Tony’s head appeared somewhere behind his wife, and Barnes saw Tony was as drunk as him, if not even more. He could see a huge blue mark from Pepper’s heavy hand on Stark’s cheek.

“Who’s that, honey?” The man asked innocently, earning an enraged glance from his wife, and Bucky thought he should have run. “Hi, Buck! Come on in, it’s ok if you didn’t bring beer even if I asked twice.”

Oh. Something was going on. Of course, Bucky could rat the man out immediately, telling Pepper he wasn’t drinking with Tony yesterday’s night, but he wasn’t such a heartless bastard - by the look on Stark’s face Barnes could see his sweet blonde wifey would beat poor Tony to death with her Dior handbag.

“Sorry, I blacked out for a couple of hours in my car.” He mumbled, bowing his head in respect. “Pepper, such a pleasure to see you.”

“Come on in, alcoholic.” Her gaze was heavy, and Bucky shivered a little, carefully leaving his shoes near the door and scurrying away to the coach where Tony sat, nervously biting his fingers. “Well, do you wanna tell me something, huh? How many hookers have you brought here yesterday?”

Glancing to Tony and back to Pepper, Barnes suddenly realized his frenemy had been so drunk he had no hecking idea whether somebody really brought hookers to the motel - it was a total taboo, but once they got drunk they could barely control themselves. Once they literally woke up to a Santa Claus singing Jingle Bells in the tub in the middle of June because Tony missed Christmas.

Of course, Stark would never slip up the night before Pepper was coming back to town, but, apparently, she didn’t stay with her mom for as long as she planned, and Tony was royally fucked.

“I’ve asked you a question.”

And now Bucky was, too, if he didn’t think of something quick. Of course, he could tell her the truth, but it meant losing Tony completely, and Barnes didn’t want that. A real mafioso should have at least one strong enemy, right?

“I’m sorry, Pepper, but I don’t think there were any hookers here last night.” He said, carefully choosing words. “You see, first, Tony never allows us to. Second, we’re good Christians. We would never invite some hookers when we celebrated the birth of Clint’s daughter!”

As he got silent, enjoying the effect his words were having on Pepper, Bucky looked at the man sitting to his right, watching Tony’s eyes watering: it was definitely God himself who sent Barnes his way that morning, saving his from near death. Nothing would work better than this excuse. Clint and all Bucky’s guys were so drunk to the point they barely remembered what had happened, and it would be easy to convince them Tony and his gang came to see Barnes for something and ended up staying with all of them.

Besides, there was a nice bonus Bucky could add to make it work even better.

“By the way, Clint named her Natasha. That’s also the name of your mom, right?”

By the look on Tony’s face the man realized he was ready to sing.

“How did he know my mom’s name?” Pepper eyed Steve’s right hand distrustfully, but he could tell she was less irritated.

“Oh, you know, he and his wife couldn’t choose the name, so we started saying whatever names we knew, and Tony mentioned Natasha.”

For a second Bucky thought Stark was going to kiss him through excess of joy.

When he finally left the motel, getting his pack of beer given him by lovely Pepper who changed the anger to mercy, Tony ran out of the house after him, giving him a pat on the shoulder and whispering quietly, “I own you one, brother.”

Bucky sighed. Stark didn’t take the money.

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swanimagines · 2 years

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Hi, it's me again!

Congrats on 2k one more time, everything about it is so cool!

If it's ok, can I ask for a platonic self-ship with Pin Hawthorne, please? You can call me Mary and my pronouns are she/her. I'm a Ravenclaw and ISTJ and I consider myself a very boring person...I wear glasses and have dark brown eyes, I'm shy with strangers, but I talk a lot with people I know. With friends I have a sarcastic sense of humor and I can talk for hours about books, movies and TV shows I enjoy. I blush very easily and if I'm nervous I begin to stutter (then I realize I'm stuttering and it gets even worse, it's terrible!). I love to stay at home, binge watch TV shows, read, listen to music (I have a soft spot for 2000s pop music...) and sing along when nobody can hear me. Sometimes I procrastinate something I really should do, but I don't want to and I usually worry about almost everything more than I probably should. I can be very stubborn sometimes and I have a hard time showing my feelings even for the ones I care about, so I'm usually seen as someone cold.

You can write anything as short or as long as you like, but I would like to ask for some fluff, if this is ok...thank you in advance!

Mary had been friends with Pin since daycare, Pin was the first person who approached her on the playroom and they bonded over their love for horses. Mary had never ridden before, and only seeing some ponies at a fair, but she read a lot of books that featured horses. She quickly learned that Pin's father worked for a small stable called Bright Fields, and Pin is allowed to ride a pony while his dad is working. He invited her to come along on one weekend, and soon Mary found herself riding a pony - and that was a path she wasn't coming back from.

Pin and Mary became inseparable, Mary defended Pin from Mia and Pin was standing up to literally anyone who made fun of Mary's stuttering. They studied together, took long rides together and Mary saw the chemistry between Pin and Zoe immediately, even though on the next moment she was angry at Zoe for accusing Pin of being the horse thief. But she warmed up to Zoe soon again, and continued her shipping journey and being overjoyed when she learned that Pin and Zoe finally got together.

Mary wasn't good at showing her feelings to anyone, not even to Pin, but Pin never thought it's because she doesn't care. He had learned to read her beyond expressions or the tone of her voice, knowing when she was happy or sad. If she was sad, he'd arrange a surprise movie night or a Netflix binge night with her favorite show, building a pillow fort resembling the one they had as children, with fairy lights and big bowls or chips and candy and anything they felt like eating, sometimes he even ordered takeaway.

It would have felt as a romantic gesture if it was any other friend, but they had had those days since they were kids, and Pin knew how much Mary loved just relaxing and watching something. Mary was his friend, his best friend, sharing a bond that could be compared to a bond between siblings, and he wanted her to feel good about herself.

Sometimes they fell to sleep in the middle of the movie or the TV show, just like they had fallen to sleep as kids, Mary's head against Pin's shoulder and his arm around her and when Ted came to the room, he didn't wake them up and just threw a blanket over them to make sure they won't get cold during the night, shutting down the TV and unplugged the fairy lights, tiptoeing away.

Then they woke up about nine hours later and ate breakfast together, laughing at some joke and sometimes, when Ted looked at them, he felt like he has two children, or that Mary was Pin's secret twin. They even fought like siblings.

Ted smiled, leaning against the counter and sipped his coffee, watching Mary and Pin being deep in a conversation, laughing occasionally. Pin had gone through so much at a young age, and Mary had been too shy to make friends - but together they could conquer anything. Through Pin, Mary had befriended the Bright Fields gang, and he had gotten a girlfriend from Zoe and so much happiness into his life, and it all began because he had seen a little girl sitting all alone without no one to play with back at the daycare. If he had just walked past her, none of this would have happened - or maybe they would have encountered each other later in life, who knows.

But in any case, they were one of the best things that had happened to each other.

#jen's 2k ships #2k celebration

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nicolasnelson · 2 years

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Yes, I love all your headcanons and would love to hear some more sometime, I always struggle coming up with my own but love hearing others and the way we all interrupt media. I also love how you’re a multi shipper, I feel like so many people get hung up on having only one and then get mad everyone when it doesn’t pan out or their isn’t as much content, being a multi shipper is just so much more fun and gives you so many different opportunities, especially in terms of content. As for tv shows, I really like Liv and Maddie (I know we talk about it a ton in the chat but it’s just so good and hearing Amanda talk about it especially), I’m a big fan of a lot of the animated projects just cause they’re something fun and easy to watch (with exceptions of course), really enjoying Sydney to the Max and will be devestated if it’s actually over, and I feel like if I say anything else I’ll be exposed. What about you what are some of your favorites outside of the owl house and andi mack (and also just in general because I love seeing your posts for other fandoms and am always looking for new stuff to watch)

Also! If you could be the special guest star that’s hyped up for like three weeks on a disney channel show, what show would it be and who would you play (yourself, or a specific character who leaves the scenes with a witty play on words making a joke about yourself)? - 🎄

Sorry this took me so long to answer! It's just been a really busy week for me. and they keep piling more stuff on us at work to be finished before the new year. 😭

Anyway, very excited to answer a new ask! This has been really fun and has definitely helped cheer me up and get my mind off work stress.

I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying my headcanons. I have so many and sometimes I manage to work them into fics, other times I just tell them to whoever will listen lol

Glad to hear you appreciate the multi shipper way. I just really enjoy seeing all the possibilities and playing "what if" scenarios with canon events. Yeah, I don't really get ship wars because most of the time I like both ships lol. Right? Multi shipping is so much fun! Give me all the content lol

Liv and Maddie is so good! I haven't watched much of Sydney to the Max, but the little bit I saw was really enjoyable. Definitely one I'm planning to watch all the way through.

(the rest is below the cut!)

some other disney channel faves:

liv and maddie

lizzie mcguire

kim possible

wizards of waverly place

diary of a future president (disney plus)

hsmtmts (disney plus)

non-disney channel faves:

young royals (a swedish show on netflix, cannot recommend this one enough, it's so good!)

shadow and bone

a discovery of witches (such an underrated series, more people should watch it!)

jatp

only murders in the building (did not expect to love this show as much as i did, but it's seriously so good and finally selena gomez on my screen again lol)

the witcher (i am so hyped for season 2!!)

merlin (obv i couldn't make this list without including this one lol)

buffy the vampire slayer

black sails (ahhh it's so good)

schitt's creek

star trek (really been enjoying picard and discovery!)

oh dang. this list is getting really long so i will stop there. if you want to see more, i've got them all on my tags page lol

and i see i have one more question to answer lol. ok, so it would have to be an animated show bc i do not want to see myself on tv. so we'll go with the owl house and i can play a quirky witch who knows secrets about emperor belos. eda and luz will of course need my help if they have any hope of defeating him. 💕

#gcwca secret santa #i'll be able to answer the next one more quickly!#this was just really long so it took longer to answer

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kpopgerapitico · 3 years

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Let me preface this with voice actors aren't paid enough, and accessibility is important to me, especially in and with popular media.

Idk if anyone has mentioned this, and at this point i'm a little too afraid to ask, but it has come to my attention that squid game is dubbed . . .

And it has just never occurred to me that you could dub a drama? Like some poor schmuck (and trust me, i've listened to this part and only this part, the guy did not know who he was dubbing at all) had to do voice over work of Gong Yoo.

I cannot imagine. Let alone the rest of the cast (who are all now big names, and some of whom were well known enough before), but Gong Yoo, whose only there for a bit part . . .

If you want more examples, I'm going to make a complete list based on the US Kdrama catalog on Netflix under the cut. Along with my first reactions of course!

A Korean Odyssey: Not in English, but Cha Seung Won in Spanish is pretty spectacular A Love So Beautiful: I guess I just find Spanish more charming. Or I can't tell how badly it fits because I don't it as well. Arthdal Chronicles: Song Joong Ki will be a theme here today. He sounds fine in Thai. Kim Jo Won sounds a little strange. Crash Landing Into You: The Hindi cast seems to be having fun! There are other options to watch as well. D.P.: First of all, please watch D.P in its full. Also, Netflix why? Why this drama? The translations are a little poor in my opinion. I was goign to say the voice actign is decent, but by the next scene, I changed my mind again. Extracurricular: If I don't look at the screen, the English acting hurts a little bit less. Hello Me!: Welcome back to Spanish. And this time I know more actors, and my brain is more confused. Hospital Playlist: And now it's hurting again . . . A lot of the voices don't fit for me It's Okay to not be Okay: So, these ones fit a bit better for me. But they still obviously don't fit the mouths. And at least they got someone with a deep voice for a deep voiced actor. And they aced some of the casting of the women. Itaewon Class: And we're back to a struggle, this time in Japanese! Kingdom: I'm not sure how I feel about the accents. Oh wait, I know how I feel: bad . . . pretty fucking bad. Also, there is no real English equivalent for the language difference that you have here between ancient and modern Korean Kingdom: Ashin of the North: the first was in English, this is too. And we are still doing the accents. Love (ft. Marriage and Divorce): And we are back to Spanish, and confusion Love Alarm: Dubbed over giggles hurt me just a little bit. So does romance just on the whole. Lovestruck in the City: Ha Jiwon and Kim Minseok and Ji Changwook are all . . . a lot. I will defend So Joo-yeon's dubber, just because she sounds adorable. Mad For Each Other: Yeah, idk at this point. They are all blending together, and the Thai (no English again) is sort of just flowing through me without making any impact. Man to Man: Good luck casting decent voices for any of these guys. Good fucking luck (Spanish here btw) Mine: it all just passes like a spring shower across my brain (this time in portugese) Move to Heaven: this just reminds me that I want to see this show. And also they decided to go hella young with the voice of Tang Joon Sang Mr. Sunshine: I wonder if Spanish can handle the period language any better than English? My First First Love: Boy we can't find anyone to handle the deep voices of some of these Korean actors huh? My Holo Love: I cannot handle Chansung in English here . . . or, surprisingly Choi Yeo Jin. My Only Love Song: Some more period Spanish for you, if that is a thing that you apparently need in your life. My Runway: This show is way too unknown to have a dub? Why does it have a Spanish dub? Navillera: I wouldn't expect Spanish and ballet to go together, but okay. Also watching someone get murdered at billiards is always great. Nevertheless: All the Spanish and Portuguese has no effect on me any more at this point. Record of Youth: For the first time, there are two Chinese options. Can I tell that there is a difference? Yes. Can I tell you what it is? Absolutely not. Run On: More options of romance in Spanish and Portuguese. I'm sure there is a joke here to be made about translators. Sisyphus: Here's that good confusing shit again! Park Shin Hye is acting her heart out, and the voice actress . . . is not totally failing, so that's a nice new change. Though I could see it getting worse. So Not Worth It: This is some meta shit. Native English speakers, speaking Korean, dubbed over in English. Also . . . Youngjae. That's all I will say. Start-up: We are back to Mandarin, but still feeling those same feelings. Stranger: Just Spanish, so lucky Spanish speakers I guess. Sweet Home: Horror is always best in it's original language. Fight me on it honestly. The King: Eternal Monarch: My dreams of Lee Minho in English are dashed, but at least there is Hindi! School

Nurse Files: This show is weird enough in Korean. I don't need to hear them say it in English too. Vagabond: If you didn't like Lee Seunggi in Spanish, then why not Portuguese, Thai, or Mandarin? Vincenzo: IN THE FIRST EPISODE SONG JOONG KI SPEAKS SPANISH AND THEY LEAVE THAT IN BUT DUB OVER ALL HIS KOREAN IN ENGLISH. WTF!!!!!!!

What a way to end y'all: confused and battered. I did this so you don't have to!

#long post but enjoy my almost hour of work

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callmeunstable · 4 years

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Angels & Demons - Chapter 1

Chapter 1

Characters: Reader

Summary: She finds herself in the middle of a unknown forest after falling asleep. It seems like a normal forest until she gets to meet a mystical creature that welcomes her in a different world.

Warnings: Monsters, Cursing, Blood

Words: 2.000+

A/N: Hey! This is my first fic and I decided to place it in the universe of the greatest of the greatest. Geralt of Rivia! I don’t know where this will go 100%, but I know it’s going to be interesting. 😄 The reader starts of in our modern world and stumbles into the universe of The Witcher. I take my information mostly from the books and games but my fic is set based of the Netflix series so it’s basically beginners friendly.☺️

Disclaimer: GIF’s and PNG’s are taken from Tumblr and are not mine! Credits to the creators!

Song:

“Two face, two face, yeah Black, white, left, right, yeah Up, down, all night, yeah Can't escape it ever Don't forget my name I don't feel the same On a trip, no train“

The music made her headphones vibrate. Probably loud enough for everyone around her to hear. If there was anyone. She was alone, hiking in the forest. It was what she always did when her anxiety got the best of her. The city is loud and dirty, squeezed full with people that never look around. Never realizing what was going on in the real world. At least what that’s what they called their reality. She always thought it was foolish to believe that they were alone in this big of a universe. Impossible.

Some stones here and there made her trip but she didn’t stop. She knew where she wanted to go and she didn’t intend to stop before she reached her destination. Kicking some branches out of the way and silently passing other hikers that greeted her with waving hand. She didn’t like the people in the city. All of them were selfish and money orientated. Of course, so tried to earn some money as a health center receptionist at her university but only to keep her head above water. Her focus was on her degree in medicine. She wanted to be able to afford a good life for her and her dad.

“And all these angels and demons Keep shoutin' and screamin' I'm fallin' from Eden”

She slowed down and let herself down on the ground. Pulling her knees to her stomach and breathing in the fresh air of the trees. The pollution caused by cars and all of these different companies laying behind her. Closing her eyes and trying not to fall asleep. Her insomnia got worse on hot summer days like these. The missing air conditioning in her dorm room made it even worse. Two hours have to be enough to function. She couldn’t wait for the autumn to start. For the leaves to fall. And the crowds to shrink

“So fuck me like a rockstar, dancing on a cop car Nothin' in the world can stop me now Fucked up like a rockstar, riding in a cop car No one in the world can help me out-“

Her music was cut short and her eyes gazed at the screen. The Battery was almost empty. With an annoyed groan, she took off her backpack searching for her power bank. The only good thing summer had for her was the power of the sun being strong enough to charge the battery of the device. Still having her headphones in her ears. Just in case someone stumbled across and wanted to have a conversation. The easiest way to ignore people without seeming too harsh.

Her glance went up, analyzing anything she was able to catch. The mountains far back on the horizon hugged by a thick layer of clouds that protected them from any unwanted attention. The distance colored them in a blueish gray tone that would capture a lot of people. At least the ones who noticed and wanted to have a peerless experience.

Some strange black orbs were able to sneak into her daydream making her once again face the consequences of her lack of sleep. Slowly blinking she took a look at her watch. 2 pm. Still early. She just wanted to close her eyes for a few more minutes. To help her find her lost energy. Just in case she set her alarm for an hour and put her phone in the pocket of her pants. - “Everybody said that I'm falling, uh Took another line, I'm calling, uh I'm so sick of the nonsense, uh I'ma dive into the mosh pit, uh I don't really think I'm the problem I don't really think it's a problem Me plus me is a problem One gunshot could solve 'em Tell my friends I'm sorry though T-T-T-Tell my sins to go. And all these angels and demons Keep shoutin' and screamin' I'm fallin' from Eden”

The tones of her favorite song woke her up. Her headphones got disconnected while she was asleep. With panic caused by the rush of adrenaline, she paused the music. Taking a deep breath and enjoying the silence again. Her arms were stretched above her head and a yawn made it through her mouth. Slowly gaining back clear vision she looked up again. But something was different. The dusk was slowly setting in.

She failed to set her alarm correctly. But it could be worse, she wasn’t doing anything special today anyway. As she was standing up she looked for the mountains in the far, however, her view was blocked. Big deciduous trees rose in front of her. Maybe she fell asleep in a different place? A little far more into the forest?

She got herself up and started walking her way back. At least what she thought was the right way. Somehow everything looked a little different. As different as forests could look like. The hiker trail was gone. Slowly breathing away her risen heartbeat she tried to focus. It’s just the forest how bad can it be? She always found her way out of it. She got lost a couple of times whilst exploring new paths but still. The air felt different. Not as heavy as she was used to. The trees were able to give her better oxygen as in the city but they just couldn’t hold all of the smog back.

Her feet automatically began to walk faster and faster as time went by and nothing seemed familiar anymore. She tried to find her starting point again but that seemed rather impossible right now. There was still a lot of light left but everything seemed strange.

She started to run. Jumping over the rocks and logs that blocked her way. As she was trying to bridge over the next log she wasn’t able to see the small lowering that led to her stumbling and rolling a couple of feet down. ‘Great, just great.’

Her thoughts were sarcastic, helping her to cope with the panic rising in her throat.

She looked up and let out a short scream. Some big bright yellow eyes were looking at her from above. They belonged to a child with pale blue skin. At least it looked like a child. She didn’t dare to move one muscle, staring at the creature in front of her.

It was barely as tall as a 9-year-old and it’s skin made it look like it was suffocating. A rough crown made out of sticks sat on top of its head. It wore some pants that had seen better days. They seemed to be made out of a cheap fabric that was ripped in several places. A green scarf was hanging from its neck.

“Hello.” It could speak. His mouth was stretched to wild smile.

“It’s been some time since an ol’ villager got lost in ma forest. That was some fall you had. Are you alright?” Still staring at the creature she tried to get her words together.

“Ehm…yes I tripped and fell. I don’t think I’m hurt. Thank you.”

“Good to hear. So what’s your name? I’m James.”

She hesitated. She didn’t even know if this creature was human. She couldn’t trust just anyone.

“Alva. My name is Alva.”

“Nice to meet you, Alva. So what did ya run away from? Thought the Drowners were after ya.” Drowners? What the fuck are Drowners?

“Yeah so. Excuse me the question but you seem rather … blue?” She was scared to ask something like this but this little creature seemed friendly.

“Oh that. Have you never seen a good ol’ Godling? Because that’s just what I am indeed.” The little boy laughed and seemed to be happy to have found some company.

“That is a Godling?”

“You never heard of us amazing Godling?”

The little blue boy explained to her that Godlings are woodland creatures dwelling in burrows and moss-covered hollow stumps on the outskirts of human settlements. They are deeply rooted in their home territory and perform acts of care and guardianship to those dwelling near their burrows. They watch over people as well as animals, but, shy creatures by nature, they try to do so while remaining unseen. Godlings are drawn to joy and innocence, and so delight in the company of children and usually only show themselves to the young.

“That’s why I am talking to ya. You seem fun. At least you look funny.” The boy started to walk around her while lifting her flannel and poking her skin.

‘He’s the one looking like a tall version of a smurf. What is he talking about?’ Her thought rushes inside of her head, making her regaining the feeling of dizziness.

“So you’re telling me you’re some kind of magical creature as in Harry Potter?” The girl tried to order her thoughts by sitting down and trying to hold on to the facts the little guy was telling her. Maybe she was in a coma? Or dreaming? Possibly. These are the only explanations she could come up with.

“I don’t know anyone called Harry Potter. Is he a friend of yours?”

“Ok, listen up. You’re probably just part of my imagination so why don’t we have some fun while it lasts?” As long as she sleeping and lucid dreaming she could at least make the best out of it.

“Yes, let’s have some fun! I love singing, I love music! I heard some strange melody coming from your direction. That’s how I found you.” James started to do some little happy jumps and clapping.

“Oh, you mean this?” Alva took her phone out of her pocket and showed it to him.

“What witchy device is that suppose to be?”

“No magic. Technology. Let me show you.” She pressed on some Icons and song from earlier continued.

“So fuck me like a rockstar, dancing on a cop car Nothin' in the world can stop me now Fucked up like a rockstar, riding in a cop car No one in the world can help me out.”

The little one danced to the music and showed off some rather random dance moves. Spinning in circles, jumping up and down and throwing his hands in the air.

Still thinking of her lucid dreaming she joined her little Godling friend. Turning the music louder and louder they enjoyed themselves.

Until a growl broke the peace of the music. But both James and Alva were to focused on having von dancing to notice some strange noises. They didn’t hear it, down to the moment when the girl got hit by something sharp, making her fall to the ground.

“Don’t stop dancing Alva, you’re no fun.” The Godling still didn’t realize that Alva was sitting on the ground covering her bleeding upper arm with her hand. Looking up she saw the scariest creature she could’ve imagined.

In front of her is standing a sickly blue or green colored human, with slime and sludge oozing out of every pore and the acrid stench of rot wafting off of it. No, that wasn’t a human.

“James! What the fuck is that?” The girl cried for help.

Finally objectifying the situation, James was hurrying towards the creature when it rose its arm for another attack.

Covering her face Alva started to realize that this is the moment she was going to die. You can’t get hurt in a dream. That is just not possible. Her arm was on fire, giving her a pain she never had felt in her entire life. This was real. Waiting for the next hit but it never came.

Slowly she opened her eyes to see only James in front of her. The monster not in sight.

“Where did he-?” Completely shocked by the situation and being unable to talk, Alva starred at the boy.

“Don’t underestimate the power of a Godling. Nothing comes between me and my forest. And since you stumbled in it you’re a part of it.” He looked down at her bleeding arm and his eyebrows furrowed.

“You need a healer. As much as I’d love to I can’t heal it.”

The words barely got to the girl. She was scared for her life. She never believed something like this could happen. But one thing she knew for sure. This wasn’t her reality.

“And all these angels and demons Keep shoutin' and screamin' I'm falling from Eden.”

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jaehyunsuh · 4 years

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trust

—pairing: idol! Taeyong x reader

—genre: au/ fluff/ boyfriend! Taeyong

—words count: + 1k

summary: for a long time you have felt pretty lonely and sad, yes you have friends and stuff but they always are making comments that make you feel upset or uncomfortable and sometimes they don't even seem to care about what you think or say. In university some people are really nice but the majority just use you since you are so kind to everyone, you don't want to change your personality since you know it's better to help people and be nice rather then treat them like sh*t. You just need a friend, someone you can trust and tell your problems to, hopefully you will find it soon. You could talk to your boyfriend Taeyong but he is already so stressed with his idol life, that is enough to him.

today you were able to get out early from your job so you decide to walk home, so like that you can explore the city, look at the the people, breathe fresh air and clear your mind a bit. You usually take a taxi or something because you are tired but it's 4pm and the weather it's nice so it seems like a good day to go for a walk.

lately you have felt pretty lonely, people lately hasn't been the best to you lately, since you are so smart and offer to help people when you say no they start telling you mean stuff and are so stupid, you really don't mind about people's comments or anything but having no one to talk to makes you overthink stuff, by luck you distract yourself cooking, painting and working so like that it doesn't affect your mental health.

Taeyong is the best boyfriend you could ask for but you are used to be the one who gives him advices and makes him feel better since he is constantly under stress, so you decide not to overwhelming with your problems and keep them to yourself.

you walk past a buddhist temple you have seen before but never were curious of walking, you have never been really religious or anything but today you felt like visiting it, those structures were big, beautiful and amazing, it truly left you impressed. You walk and see some tourists looking outside the place, you are able to see the inside if you are quiet and respectful, so you decide to climb the stairs. You see a boy bowing at the giant Buda figure inside the temple, it was really beautiful and breathtaking, he gets up and walks to the entrance were you are standing.

"Uhm excuse me." You say reaching to the boy. He looks at you scared and kind flinches. You looked at him confused.

"I'm really curious about this religion and i have never knew anything about it, so would you mind to tell me a little bit about this?." The boy's body relax a little bit looks at you up and down

"My name is y/n by the way." You extent his hand to him and he shakes it.

"I'm Daniel." He gives a sweet smile. He tells you to see somewhere around the temple so he can talk better to you.

"Well i don't really consider myself religious but buddhism sees life as a process of constant change, and its practices aim to take advantage of that. It means that one can change for the better."

"Wow, that's really beautiful." You say impressed.

"Yes, it's good! Also they practise meditation, which is a way of developing more positive states of mind that are characterised by calm, concentration, awareness, and emotions. Using the awareness developed in meditation it is possible to have a fuller understanding of oneself, other people, and of life itself." He explains.

"It really sound fascinating, how did you get into it?" You never knew there was a religion that teach such necessary and important things like those.

"Well my parents are buddhists so I've been into it since i was young. Like i said i was never really into it but since I'm 18 I've always need something to keep me mentally stable and help me relax so i started coming here often." He gives a kind smile.

"That's really cool, I'm glad you found something that gives you peace, that's really what i need right now." You sigh.

"Well if you are not into religion you can do yoga, start meditating by yourself or you can talk to me!" He suddenly changes and starts being more open and friendly.

"Thank you, you are so nice. I think ill take all three." You laugh.

you continue to talk about your stuff and you tell him all the things that you have been feeling lately, he gave you some advices here and there about how to distract yourself from those negative thoughts and move on from this toxic people. You feel so thankful that this total stranger it's actually listening to you and being interested in what you have to say. You talked about college, your job, the music you're into and how you how much you love painting and cooking.

"Well, thank you so much for telling me about this, i found it pretty interesting."

you decided to exchange numbers and talk with each other, he said that every time he could go to the buddhist temple he will meet you outside and talk to you and maybe go and eat something. You have been seeing each other for around one month now and it has really helped your mental state, he teach you some breathing excercises that helped your anxiety and tried to meet a couple timed at week to do yoga.

Taeyong's POV

y/n has been kinda weird lately, she doesn't talks or says any important stuff to him anymore, she just talks about college stuff and the netflix show she is watching, also she goes out almost everyday and comes back later at afternoon, so it is making him Taeyong worried if she is seeing someone else. He doesn't want to sound mean or anything but he knows y/n doesn't has friends anymore, just the ones back in her country, but here in Seoul many people has been fake, treat her bad and been fake because she is dating and idol. He tries not to overthink and keep trusting his girlfriend.

"Hey Tae, we need to talk to you." Johnny says.

"Okay?"

"Hyung, y/n has been kinda weird lately she doesn't even wants to talk to us that much." Jaehyun sits down in the couch.

"We all talked and we wanted to tlwt you know that our friends and their friends have seen y/n hanging around with some guy." Taeil says. Taeyong looks shocked and like it's about to cry.

"We didn't believe it until Mark told us what he saw today." Taeil continues.

"What did you saw?" Taeyong takes a deep breath and close his eyes.

"I was walking around the Han River and i saw them sitting around there." Mark says upset. Taeyong close his hands frustrated.

"But look, we aren't saying she is cheating, maybe it's her collage partner or something." Jaehyun says trying to make his friend happy.

"Yes, and when i saw them they weren't holding hands and not even were so close to each other."

"Bro, she loves you and instead of thinking about breaking up ask her if there is something else making her distracted." Yuta pats his friends back.

Taeyong grabs his jacket and makes his way to y/n's apartment, he calls 3 times and she doesn't picks up which makes him worried since he is thinking about all the things that member said.

Y/n's POV

you are in the living room watching some tv when you hear Taeyong open the door.

"Y/n we need to talk." He looks like he was crying and you wonder what happened to him.

"Yes, what happened babe?."

"Y/n, you don't love me anymore? Are you cheating on me?" He ask straight up.

"No, Taeyong, what the hell? How could i ever cheat on you. You are the person i love the most." You say slightly frustrated.

"Some people are talking about you hanging out with another guy and even Mark saw you with him the other day, and the fact that you have been so quiet and don't even talk to me that much anymore, so i think I'm convinced it may be truth." He sits down and takes a deep breath trying not to look at you. Your heart breaks at seeing him like this, you know the truth and if you tell him he is gonna still feel upset.

"Taeyong listen to me, this guy is a buddhist, a met him the other day when i walked around the temple, he explained me that it helps you relax and control your emotions, i told him that i was going through a tought time and he decide to help me. He teach me how to meditate, breathing exercises and we do yoga almost every afternoon. It has helped me a lot with my stress. And that's it, he is just a friend, there is not any other relationship between us and if you want to talk to him or something I'm sire you would be more convinced." You say while holding his hands.

"And why didn't you told me about this?" He looks at you sad.

"I love you more than anything else in the world, you known i can help you and that you can talk to me about anything." He looks at you.

"Tae i know, but I'm always the strong one that is comforting you, making you feel okay and helping you. I know you have been through a lot lately and i didn't wanted to bother you with my problems while you have your owns. I'm sorry." You look at the the floor disappointed at yourself.

he grabs your lower back and pulls you into a kiss. You feel safe and peaceful again in between his arms and lips. He kisses you softly making your feel better than before and taking all your worries away.

"You can always trust me, okay?" Taeyong kisses your forehead.

"From now on, let's promise to trust each other anytime, and talk about every single thing that is bothering us. We are stronger together."

"I love you." You hug him.

"I love you too." He leaves another kiss on your forehead.

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moonlightskids · 4 years

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business trip

fluff (cliché)

the first thing seungmin noticed that day when he entered the meeting’s room was you sitting in a suit and with a serious face right in front of his usual spot as the head of the company. the meeting was to acquire a new small business his adviser thought would help in the growth of his now successful company and the last thing he thought he’ll see that day was his high school’s best friend little sister sitting as the head of the new project.

you didn’t look much like he remembered. seungmin had always seen you as a kid, younger than him for only a year but your chubby cheeks and big eyes always made you look younger than you were. he had never thought of you as a big business woman, even if you were one of the smartest students in your year, you were quiet and shy so to see you sitting at the big table surrounded by business men and not a single nervous sign in your body was kind of weird, nonetheless he was happy to see a familiar face.

the moment he crosses the big crystal doors all the people waiting inside stands up to greet him, including you, a surprised look on your face, wide eyes and gaped mouth, that makes seungmin chuckle, you haven't changed that much. he takes his spot in front of you and the meeting starts. it’s the usual, both of you talking about what you want to accomplish with this deal and he’s pleasantly surprised to hear you speak confidently, hyunjin would be happy to know his sister is doing so well under the judgmental eyes of the currently youngest ceo in korea. when all the topics are done being discussed the two of you sign all the paper work and everyone starts walking out of the room.

seungmin’s about to reach his office door when he feels a tap on his shoulder. you’re standing there, a faint smile on your face.

“h-hi, seungmin, i’m y/n, i don’t know if you remember me, but i’m hyunjin’s little sister? from high school?”, seungmin finds it cute how much you try to explain yourself and he watches you struggle for a moment before interrupting, a hand raising up signaling for you to shut up.

“i do remember you, y/n”, the way your name rolls of his tongue and the soft gaze he sends your way making you blush. you’ve always thought of seungmin as just your brother’s best friend, of course at some point you had developed a crush on him. seungmin was smart, handsome and had always been nice to you. you hadn’t seen him since his generation had graduated and now you know why.

you don't notice you've been staring at him without saying a word till he clears his throat. “if that’s all, i have a lot of work to do, have a nice day”, and he disappears inside his office before you can even say goodbye, leaving you dumbfounded because of his sudden change of mood. with a sigh you make your way out of the 20th floor building back home.

you’re really proud of what you've accomplished with this project you founded yourself, but sometimes you see what others have done and your small success seems even smaller. specially when you see your high school crush dressing with armani suits while you have to thrift shop one for this meeting. when you finally reach home, you decide to have a you day, so you get on your most comfortable pajamas and lay in bed, ready to binge watch any new show on netflix.

the loud ringing of your phone wakes you up, the sun has hidden and the clock on your bedside table marks 7pm, you had fallen asleep after the second episode, completely exhausted after preparing none stop for the meeting of that morning. picking up the phone, is felix, your business partner.

“felix”, your voice comes out broken, so you clear your throat as you listen to him ramble.

“something happened, something really really bad happened”, you can hear the nervousness in his tone, sending off all your alarms, sitting up straight you ask him to go on, “there’s been a problem with the deal we made today and we need to clear it up before kim signs it”

“but seungmin already signed it”, you reply in confusion.

“no, not seungmin, his father”, oh, THE kim. you remember how much hyunjin would talk about how intimidating his best friend’s dad was, that’s why they used to spend the afternoons after school back at yours and not seungmin’s big ass house, “y/n, are you listening?”, you hum in acknowledgment as felix continues,��“seungmin is flying to jeju island to visit his dad tonight and you need to go with him”, now you’re completely awake, fly to jeju? with seungmin?

and that’s how you end up in a vip cabine on first class next to the young ceo. the flight was quiet, honestly seungmin didn't seem too happy to have you accompanying him which only made the whole situation more awkward, you had tried to make small conversation with him back in the car on your way to the airport only to be shushed, so you had decided to mind your business for as long as the trip lasted and prayed to not have to be glued to seungmin for the rest of it.

at the jeju airport you walk behind him, trying to keep up with his fast pace, which proves to be hard as you try to keep your bag from crushing you. turning around as he hears you huff for the hundredth time, seungmin takes the bag from you and takes you by the arm so you walk next to him. the simple act making your heart race, his mood swings scares you more than the prospect of meeting his dad.

and of course as life has proved to hate you a lot of times before, today couldn't be any different. when you arrive at the hotel it turns out only one bedroom with a king sized bed had been booked instead of two and, of course, the hotel was full, so the inevitable was happening: seungmin and you would have to share a bed. (cliché, i know)

the bed seems big enough for the both of you and maybe the fort of pillows that would divide it, you’ve been thinking about. putting his and yours bags down seungmin excuses himself as he goes to take a shower, when the door closes you let out a deep sigh.

sitting on the edge of the big bed you wait for him to get out so you can take a shower too. when he comes out, he’s only wearing a pair of pajama pants, chest and back exposed to the cold temperature of the room, your cheeks heat up as he caught you staring, an eyebrow raised. taking your things you make a bee line to the bathroom as fast as you can, and you can hear a loud chuckle before closing the door.

inside the water is hot enough to burn but you don't mind it, after such an stressful day, the least you deserve is hot water. all your mind can think of is seungmin and how handsome he is. his body is not big but is build enough, perfect for cuddling. you recall all the times you used to think about him when you were in high school, how you would lower the music in your room just so you could hear him speak when he’d spend the day at your house, it’s been a long time since then, but your feeling don’t seem to have changed. when you’re done you put on your pajamas and go back into the room.

seungmin is laying on the bed, phone in his hand, he raises his eyes to look at you as you go and lay on the other side. getting under the covers immediately you wish him a good night and do your best to fall asleep and after a moment, you feel him turn off the phone and fo the same.

seungmin is having a hard time falling asleep next to you, his mind going places it shouldn't, fulling his head of images of you. you’re so close his nose can catch your scent making him feel frustrated at being so close but so far away. his eyes are heavy, he’s exhausted. you feel him turn for the nth time, so much movement waking you up every time you're about to fall asleep.

“are you ok?”, your voice is a whisper but seungmin can hear you. you turn around to face him. he’s too close, why is he so close?, his eyes barely open and he sees your pretty face, the same he’s been dreaming of for years, making his heart constrict, the same feeling that hasn't disappeared from his chest since he saw you that morning. and without thinking he let’s his heart decide for once. leaning in he gives your lips a peck.

"seungmin, what are you doing?”, without responding he leans in again, but this time he kisses you, a hand on your cheek as his lips touch yours, the kiss is soft and you can barely feel it, so you move closer to him, your hand on his white shirt, his heart beating impossibly fast against your palm and you deepen the kiss.

your lips move slowly till you can’t feel him move anymore. parting away you find him asleep, eyes delicately closed, his hand still on your face, so you turn around to go back to your place only to have him press you against his chest, his arms around your waist and his face hidden on your neck.

“please, stay”, you can barely hear him but the words still make your heart jump to your throat. you whisper back an ‘okay’, barely audible and fall asleep on his arms.

in the morning, seungmin wakes up mortified. having you in his arms feels so good, his heart beating fast against his chest and his cheeks red and hot. when you turn around still on his hold, you find him looking at you, pupils quivering waiting for you to say something, instead you just smile and kiss his lips again. seungmin’s eyes close automatically, his arms tightening around you and you separate enough to talk, “are you gonna fall asleep on me again?”

his laugh fills the hotel room making you smile even brighter and he shakes his head, leaning in for another kiss. and you spend the morning like that, only stopping when your phone rings. it’s felix, you’re gonna be late for today’s meeting, again.

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