#aristotle and dante spoilers

[snuggleupagus]

Saw the Aristotle & Dante movie today. Admittedly, it's been about a year or more since I've read the book, so my memory of the plot wasn't as sharp as it could have been. The movie felt very disjointed. Stilted? Like there were so many very short scenes that felt awkward to jump to again and again.

That being said, it was a good adaptation, and I did like it. It didn't make me cry, though. The book made me cry. I feel like certain relationships needed more screentime, and some needed less. It would have been nice to get a miniseries instead. One whole open-close episode dedicated to the year Dante is away would've felt good.

It left me feeling sad at the end. The movie has a happy ending, but the feeling of the back third of the film just brought a heaviness of which there was no cure. Ari's older brother's story + what happens to Dante... I don't think the movie had the capability to heal my heart of those hurts by the end of the 90 minute runtime.

Overall, it is worth a watch if the good ol' teen gay coming of age movie is your thing. I can't see myself rewatching it, but it has made me want to reread the book again.

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[heresmeraki]

"I know there are seasons for everything. But why does every season have to hurt ?"

- Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World

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[smoshyylovee]

So i just finished the Ari and Dante sequel and here are my thoughts

SPOILERS DUH Things I loved

susie Byrd love her character 

Ari’s growth , I love him so much I’m so proud 

Ari’s father, 🥲

Ari coming out to Gina and susie 

Ari facing his brother ( I was so nervous reading this )

Ari and Dante camping trip

The kiss in the rain

Cassandra and Ari’s friendship 

Sophocles 🥺

Ari writing Dante’s name in uit journal every time 

Dantes painting for Ari 

The museum kiss parallel 

Ari’s mom becoming teacher of the year

The relationship between Ari and Dante’s parents 

Cassandras speech at the graduation 

Quotes: the kitten had fucking opened his eyes. I can see, Dante i can see.

You’re every street I’ve ever walked. You’re the tree outside my window. You’re a sparrow as he flies you’re the book that I am reading. You’re every poem I’ve ever loved. - Dante

Too young ? Tell that too my fucking heart. 

Sometimes I just want to be. Just to be. You know?

How strange and how beautiful, to be sitting in a car and singing with your father 

A father and a boy who had lived in different countries in the same house 

You know life isn’t easy for everybody. Life isn’t easy for anybody 

I hate my life, been there done that

Things i missed 

a healthy talk between Ari and Dante at the end, the didn’t acknowledge what happened and they didn’t actually talk it out 

More Ari Dante happiness most of their scenes reminded us why they couldn’t be together or that the world didn’t accept them 

I missed Dante, I feel like we didn’t see much of him and when we did it wasn’t often in a positive light 

I missed Dante growing, Ari grew so much as a person where I feel like Dante kind of stayed the same and slowly faded into the background 

Things i didn’t like 

the way the ending came to be 

So much sadness, the sad things that happened really overshadowed the good stuff for me personally 

The balance between happy things and sad things. I understand that life isn’t perfect and not always happy but so much sadness was in this book and feel like there wasn’t much room left for joy. Like it would be nice to have a 60/40 ratio of happyvs sad but it just didn’t feel like that for me

Overal i rate this book 3,6/5

and Ari and Dante will always have a very special place in my heart

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[the-wannabe-philosopher]

DOES ARISTOTLE HAVE A CRUSH ON DANTE??? OMG?? I DIDNT KNOW THIS BOOK WASN'T A STRAIGHT BOOK HOLY-

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[mayorjesterz]

"Wife mad at me , hope i die"

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[iknowplaces-tv]

Aristotle and Dante Discover The Secrets Of The Universe (2023)

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[alistairlowes]

Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe (2023)

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[danandfuckingjonlmao]

my favourite genre of coming out scene is the “i have to tell you something because you’re too dumb to realise this and i’m getting tired of this shit: you’re gay” ones. nina and maggie really sat down with crowley and went “dads… you’re gay and in love” and i think that’s beautiful. other one i have in mind is in aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe when ari’s parents sit him down and are like “son, you’re gay. you’re in love with dante” and he’s like “??? no im not” and they’re like “you literally are” and he’s like “ah shit”. truly remarkable.

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[sporadicparadisewolf]

I just watched the movie Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, and the phrase: "You love Dante more than you can bare" hit me. Imagine a scene where Nancy or El says to Mike: "You love Will more than you can bare"

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[noone-and-nowhere]

The Quintanas

In the scene where Ari goes to the Quintana’s house to pick up legs, Sam looks disheveled, like he was crying all night and barely pulled himself out of bed. He spent the night at home, while Soledad spent the night with Dante. Soledad looks put together, has makeup on, her hair done, and optimistically agrees with Ari when he says he’ll be okay. She only falls apart in the hall when she has to once again come face to face with what happened as she explains it to Ari. Despite feeling the same grief, their responses characterize them to the audience in very little words: Sam (like Dante) allows himself to display his emotions, while Soledad tries to hold herself together until she can’t anymore.

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[amphiptere]

ari and dante movie things (spoilers):

CRUEL CRUEL WORLD for omitting both "I will love you forever, Aristotle Mendoza" and "I love swimming. I love swimming...and you."

I get that a lot of the more homoerotic aspects of Ari and Dante's early friendship were left out in order to preserve the surprise of the ending and keep it a question of if they'd get together but some of those moments were really great ok. And I don't think they needed to tone down Dante's crush on Ari later on, after Chicago, when he's pretty open about it.

Absolute worst change was the moments after they first kiss. Ari would never say those things. He hates his own sexuality, but he never hates Dante's. He may sometimes be awful to Dante because of how Dante makes him feel but he wouldn't lash out in blatantly homophobic ways because of it, he'd just retreat and be mad at himself (and a little at Dante). I really can't get behind this at all.

I liked the inclusion of Ophelia more, that made the end less unexpected. Unsure why she was at the New Year's party with all the family though unless they were neighbours and stuff and not family? (Except Ari's sisters, obviously.)

Including the Bernardo reveal so early was fine except for it makes sense way more after Ari fights Julian. His parents show him the Bernardo stuff because they're afraid of what they see in Ari and how their collective silence makes everyone suffer. Ari is then horrified by everything and realizes how his violence has affected his family. Vs in the movie it's sort of just swept aside as we move onto the Dante of it all.

Also I guess it helped the exposition right at the start to have a photo of Ari with Bernardo but it was such a big point of the book that no one in the family had photos of him anywhere and that hurt Ari and so it's so nice when he takes one to put up and his parents want to put it up where everyone can see it. That was just such a really nice moment and only adding two lines could have made it happen in the movie too so I don't see why not.

Ari's dad doesn't talk really and I guess that was cut for time. I get that had to happen some places, fine. It just makes their "we're talking. Everything's better." far less of a victory since it seems like a one-off thing before they retreat into a slightly easier silence, rather than them fundamentally understanding each other better and understanding how to reach out and communicate, which is how they end things in the book. There you know they'll be OK and talk lots more.

The first scene with the bird, where the boys are shooting it with BB guns was cut also for time and mostly that was fine except for how it removed the part where Dante finds out Ari likes to fight. Which is an important revelation for Dante to have.

Why was Ileana's name changed? That was so unnecessary and Ileana is a beautiful name.

Basically everything with the parents was cut down to the point that they were all pretty 2D characters and I missed them and their friendships with each other and Ari and I guess there just wasn't time but oh what could have been.

DANTE'S GAY-ASS OUTFITS WERE EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING, OK.

Gina and Suzie suffered the same "cut down for time" treatment as everyone else but I missed them also.

I'm not sure how they could have shown it since the whole part is so internal but with the bit where Ari thinks he hates Dante, that was pretty important and they just sort of skipped it. It's a really interesting way to show how internalized homophobia can manifest.

I appreciate that the trans woman mentioned was clearly explained to be a trans woman in a way that made sense for the characters (teenagers fairly uneducated on the topic, in the 80s) but didn't use language now considered offensive and didn't misgender her.

Visually, things were lovely.

Swimming criticism: the second day Ari and Dante go swimming, so after two days of lessons, the previous day on which he learned a back float, Ari races underwater by doing whip kick. No way he'd be able to do whip kick that fast. No one even teaches it that early on, not even random kids who have no official teaching backgrounds.

I always feel in the book like Ari and Dante read a bit young for their age the first summer. That didn't really feel like it was the case here, so that was nice.

It was kind of funny when Dante and co. come back from Chicago and are all "oh my god Ari you look so different" and he looks exactly the same.

There's not so much with Legs and how boys need dogs and dogs are one of the secrets of the universe etc.. I like that stuff.

I did notice all the other bits cut for time and I did miss them all.

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[sherangles]

spoilers for the aristotle and dante book lol

imagine your parents calling a family meeting and sitting you down just to tell you you're gay

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[fullchicanery]

My non-spoiler Aristotle and Dante movie review no one asked for but I feel compelled to share:

This was the best book adaption as a movie in a long while. It was that good. It doesn't have frills nor pomp but that's exactly what the book is. A story about two boys in the 1980s that is down to earth, charming, and heartfelt. This movie had all of that. The actors for Dante and Ari were well cast and felt like they did in the book. A lot of the scenes were exactly how I pictured them. There were some changes to what is in the book but they blended seamlessly with the story and they were all moments that I thought may actually improve upon what was in the book (alright, boo me!). Like, they made certain story beats make more sense and strengthened certain character archs (i won't spoil them here unless people want me to). Is there a negative thing I have to say about this movie? Not really- or, at least, none I can think of off the top of my head.

But anyways, I wish this movie had more attention. It deserves it!

#aristotle and dante

[shiveringfrogspawn]

What's up sluts (affectionate)

Welcome to my blog! Things you may care to know about me:

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MOVIES

Labyrinth, The Princess Bride, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Pride and Prejudice, Dead Poets Society, Knives Out, Stardust, Night at the Museum, Terminator, Jurassic Park, Labyrinth, Hunt for the Wilderpeople...

TV SHOWS

Doctor Who, Good Omens, Sherlock, Shadow and Bone (though it's absolutely awful compared to the awesome book series, it's special in its own way 🥴), Taskmaster, 8 Out of 10 Cats, Countdown, Our Flag Means Death, The Mighty Boosh, All the Light We Cannot See...

BOOKS

Shadow and Bone trilogy, Six of Crows duology, King of Scars duology, Good Omens: the Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch, Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe, The Secret History, Harry Potter (side note: this blog is a safe space for LGBTQ+ people! I do not agree with JKR’s transphobic views, 99% of my fandom activity involves reading gay porn about her characters - yes, I am a whore for the marauders era), The Hunger Games, Percy Jackson/the Riordanverse, Heartstopper, The Picture of Dorian Gray, We Hunt the Flame, One Last Stop, Red, White, and Royal Blue, The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, Howl’s Moving Castle, The Traitor and the Thief duology, Kaitangata Twitch, Heidi series, Little Women series, most things by Roald Dahl, the Robert Langdon series, All the Light We Cannot See...

BANDS/MUSIC

Queen, the Beatles, David Bowie, Aerosmith, The Beautiful South, Green Day, AC/DC, Bon Jovi, ABBA, the Bee Gees, Elton John, Elvis Presley…

MISC.

Hamilton the musical, SIX the musical…

TAGS

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[precalamity]

Spoiler-free review of the movie, to people for whom aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe is their favorite book:

the first 20/30-ish minutes (that which comprises the first section of the book) are perfect. overall really faithful, and the changes made feel really in the spirit of the characters and atmosphere of the book. the actor's chemistry is amazing as is their performances. dante is perfect. there are thing missing but nothing vital

the rest of the movie is good, has amazing moments, but overall feels like they tried to stuff two hours of content into a single hour. if it had been even thirty minutes longer i think it would have been near perfect. there is one really jarring change that I don't think ari's actor fully carries. expect a lack of soledad and sam, and a lot of important information brushed over/missing entirely.

in short: if you want a perfect adaptation, stick to the first thirty minutes. if you want to watch the whole thing, try to detach from what you know of the book and enjoy it as a standalone! It is still really lovely.

oh and theres one really goofy moment of cgi in the last scene

#making this bc i wanted a review like this before i saw. i like knowing what im getting into. #aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe

[alistairlowes]

It's just a kiss and then we'll both know.

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