#anti pjo fandom

[duaghterofstories]

The Lost Hero: Hi! We are the first book in a whole new series that, while still involving Greek mythology, is not revolving around Percy. The summary never mentions Percy, but it does introduce us to these three new leads who I hope you will enjoy!

The fandom: But 🥺🥺🥺 Where Percy???😢😢😰😰🥺🥺 How dare 😡😡😡 Jason take🤬🤬🤬 Percy’s place!!! I expected 😡🤬 Percy!!!

#did they even read the summary #what were they expecting? #the lost hero #anti pjo fandom #heroes of olympus #anti fandom #pro jason grace #jason grave defense squad

[partiallypearl]

maybe i am just being bitter but pjo tumblr genuinely irritates me 😭 like y’all do understand you are talking about a book series about greek/roman gods and their children yes??? be fucking for real

#personal #anti pjo fandom #ngl this is specifically abt the s*langelos and the fandom olds #watching y’all act like this is making me a wee bit embarrassed i will not lie #KDJDHD

[twinsarekeepers]

"If you’re still drawing and endorsing white Annabeth, you’re getting a very swift block from me." Too bad. I'm already doing that to you, you racist idiot.

Leah just got banned within an hour of her account being back up because this fucking fandom can’t stop mass reporting a little girl for simply existing. But y’all have the audacity to hop on anon and harass brown and black people for saying we don’t want to see white Annabeth fanart.

#i hope this fandom goes to hell #genuinely fuck y’all #anti pjo fandom #leila’s asks

[helpallthenamesaretakenblog]

me, when someone doesn't like percabeth: okay no problem 😁 we all have our own different ideas of what makes a good ship, I respect you don't like mine 🤝 uh huh? perachel? cool i love rachel ✨ good day to you, my friend

me, when they start talking about how percy's suicidal tendencies were increased because of annabeth and hate annabeth for not knowing about the BOO drowning incident when percy never even told her about it: ok 🫵 get out 🤬 eww eww eww 😭 do not come within a mile radius of me please 🙏 bye 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋

#no because this is something I've seen on the anti percabeth tag #percy jackson #pjo #annabeth chase #rick riordan #pjo fandom #pjo tv show #percabeth #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #pjo tv series #percyjackson #percy series #percy and annabeth #percy pjo #pro annabeth chase #annabeth chase defense squad #percy x annabeth #annabeth #annabeth pjo #pjo annabeth #hoo annabeth #percyverse #perachel #disney series #demigods #rachel elizabeth dare #riordanverse

[hermesmyplatonicbeloved]

the tv show has not explained that the greek gods have no DNA, so now all outsiders looking at percabeth shippers probably think that they're all shipping 12 year old child *ncest 😭

#pjo series #pjo tv show #pjo fandom #pjo #percy jackson and the olympians #percy jackson #rick riordan #annabeth chase #percy #percabeth #percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson spoilers #percy jackson show #pjo spoilers #anti percabeth

[somewhereincairparavel]

I honestly hate hate hate it when people measure Jason's power/combat skills based on his death.

Like in power rankings they put him so low by saying "nah hes basically powerless cuz he got killed with a silly spear" like NO. you literally missed the whole point of his death then. Jason would've died regardless of how strong he is. Because the fates had already sealed his destiny. You can never escape a prophecy, and the burning maze prophecy said that either Jason or Piper would die.

So Jason had CHOSEN to die instead of Piper. Jason told apollo and Piper to escape without him because he knew he would die and he didn't want either of them to stay there and watch in danger. That's why there's a line that apollo said right before jason was killed. "Jason's expression told me his plan with perfect clarity"

Jason 👏 died 👏 willingly👏 that's 👏 why 👏 it's such 👏 a tragedy 👏 bc 👏 a 👏 powerful 👏 son 👏 of 👏 Jupiter 👏 died 👏 so 👏 it 👏 was 👏 unexpected 👏 and 👏 sad 👏

So y'all shading him for being "weak" is just peak tone deafness when the boy basically committed suicide via planned murder simply to save lives apart from his own. Istg if I see one more jason slander in 2024 I'm gonna-

#Istg the lack of comprehension skills jason haters have is mind boggling #Like why do you guys have selective reading only when it comes to insulting jason #Don't get me started on a few anti jason ppl saying that hes homophobic #Like tf #You missed house of hades I'm assuming #pjo #percy jackson #pjo hoo #pjo fandom #jason grace #pjo series #pjo hoo toa #annabeth chase #piper mclean #leo valdez #frank zhang #hazel levesque #nico di angelo

[child-of-helios]

Calypso x Leo SUCKS, here is why

Look, I get why that sounds harsh, and it is, but hear me out.

First and most importantly, Calypso is a pedophile. We see her fall in love with 14 year old Percy, then 15/16 year old Leo. Already weird, right? And look, if we got some explanation as to why it would ever be okay for a titaness who is thousands of years old to fall in love with CHILDREN, maybe I could see past it.

BUT in the odyssey myth, Odysseus was MUCH older than a teenager. He was already noted to be an old wise king (who was old enough to feign madness from old age) at the START of the Trojan war. Now that war lasted 10 years and add to that the multiple years he spent traveling to Ithaca, and you got an old-ass man. So either Calypso was already a mature adult, or a child thirsting after some old dude. Sure, it happens, but weird. Let's not forget that Odysseus was married and very much still in love with his WIFE Penelope, but Calypso basically kept him hostage on her island and would not let him leave at all.

Now let's get to Percy, he got blamed for not making sure that the gods kept their promise??? Good sir that is a 16 year old who just got out of a WAR and had his memory stolen, of course he didn't check with the gods. ITS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY! He shouldn't be held accountable. Also let me remind you that Calypso wanted him when he was 14. Not a good look.

And finally, we get to Leo. Poor poor Leo. A boy who was oh-so starved for love that he took anything he could get, and that's my explanation as to why Calypso x Leo ever happened. Honestly, I adored Leo. I had a crush on him (still kinda do shhh), I won't lie. However, I also adored Annabeth but since her and Percy are amazing together, I could get behind Percabeth. But Caleo? Hell no. Sure, they have a fun dynamic, but it's more of a sibling dynamic in my opinion. I would've rather had Leo x Khione or something. Maybe Leo x Echo cause that would've been adorable. But Caleo??? No. He should've never gone back for her. Leave her to rot.

Secondly, Calypso is simply a jerk. And I'm the type of person who adores asshole characters when done right. Octavian is great because he's an irredeemable asshole AND he gets karma. But Calypso? She's a bitch and gets such a kindhearted boyfriend in return. Like I said, she tried to pressure a (married) man into sleeping with her and is simply a dick to Leo (HER BOYFRIEND) and I could understand if they were siblings, cause siblings are dicks to eachother with love underneath, but she just sucks. She immediately hated him, which she has reason to do after what happened to her, but even after that she was just horrible to Leo. I seriously don't see why he loves, likes, or even tolerates her.

In conclusion, I hate what Rick did to Leo. I adore his stories like no other (which is why I'm so passionate about this), but he really fumbled the bag here. Calypso is just not a good fit for Leo.

Personally I really do prefer Leo x Jason, Leo x Nico or even Leo x Echo. And yes it does sound weird for me to say that considering that I call Calypso a pedo, but I could see Echo not being able to age normally because of being stuck with Narcissus. Echo x Leo is in my opinion much better than Calypso x Leo.

Um sorry- that was really mean but I needed to say that.

On a lighter note I saw this really long worm which was cool! :D

#leo valdez #pjo #pjo fandom #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #pjo hoo toa #hoo #Calypso #Echo #Narcissus #Valgrace #leo x jason #leo x nico #leo x echo #anti caleo #anti calypso #caleo #odysseus #the odyssey #but seriously that worm was so cool

[wierdshenanigans]

AU where Leo and Calypso don't develop romantic feelings, because it wasn't the Fates that sent him there but the ice goddess Khione.

AU where Leo and Calypso bond. They become friends and talk about how it feels to always be the second choice, as Leo felt like the second choice with all his friends and Calypso always was the second choice with all her loves.

AU where Calypso and Leo become friends, and they do care deeply for each other, as the other is the first beautiful person who they just don't fall in love with. Calypso has only had for company someone she develops feelings for, but Leo is just a friend and she does love him because he is a good friend. Leo doesn't fall for Calypso, but he understands her and he cares about her.

AU where Leo swears to come back for Calypso as he successfully sails on the boat he built, not a magical raft that comes for him. He swears to come back for her anyway, because she is his friend and she deserved better than to be stuck on an island, alone for eternity.

AU where Leo comes back for Calypso and she joins the Hunters of Artemis, because that is a place she feels she belongs.

AU where Leo and Calypso remain friends, but nothing more

AU WHERE LEO AND CALYPSO ARE FRIENDS WHO CARE PLATONICALLY BUT DEEPLY FOR EACH OTHER BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT BETTER THAN THEM BEING A COUPLE

#calypso #percy jackson and the olympians #pjo #hoo #heroes of olympus #leo valdez #anti caleo #hoo text post #pjo hoo toa #percy jackson #Leo and calypso #leo valdez and calypso #caleo friendship #pjo series #pjo thoughts #pjo fandom #riordanverse #calypso pjo #toa

[randomness-is-my-order]

can we talk about percy’s guilt and self-esteem for a second?? because imo he has an absolutely insane habit of taking the blame for soooo many things and even when he’s the cause of trouble, the lengths he goes to rectify an error are IMMENSE. the most obvious one is him literally accepting a surely fatal prophecy because he feels responsible for bianca’s death (and ofc, he cares about nico but at that time, he also felt like he owed nico) but in the show, they portray this very accurately by having percy readily try and give up his life as a way to circumnavigate athena’s lack of help which he 100% blames himself for and has also verbally acknowledged.

(not that this will hinder him from letting the gods know exactly what he thinks of them but that’s a conversation for another day.)

point is, percy is insanely loyal and he is insanely susceptible to a guilt-ridden conscience. he will hold himself accountable for the smallest of things i am NOT kidding, like he’s the kinda guy to scold himself internally for stepping on someone’s toes by mistake. and this stems from his low self-esteem even though there is loads of nuance here because percy is also very confident when the need arises but in small, more grounded interpersonal relationship moments, his view of himself is so heartbreakingly unfair. he can be admirably surefooted in front of mighty beings like gods but when it comes to his friends and other demigods, he’s constantly second guessing himself and taking blame for the smallest of inconveniences. and i’m just. so. torn up about it. because this taking guilt over unnecessary things continues on into the sequel series too because i so clearly remember him feeling guilty about calypso and i hated it because percy jackson will stand up for everyone and their mothers but he also doesn’t defend himself half as fiercely as he should.

here are some examples from JUST lightning thief about percy and his guilty schtick routine this boy istg he needs to have a higher view of himself goodbye.

#am i officially intermixing pjo book and show canons?? #yes yes i am #imo the show’s just enriching the pre-existing lore on percy and other characters #i run an anti-guilt prayer circle just for percy #percy can pls not repent for minor wrongdoings thank you #percy jackson #pjo #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo fandom #pjo series #pjo tv show #percy pjo #pjo tv adaptation #pjo tv series #walker scobell #percy series #percy appreciation

[flower1622]

For the Percy Jackson Fandom, Annabeth is the Lois Lane to her Superman. The Mary Jane to her Peter Parker. The Juliet to her Romeo. Iris to her Barry. Padme to her Anakin. A feminine version of Patroclus to her Achilles.

They literally can't stand different opinions because Percabeth, like the other couples I mentioned here, belong together and that's final! If someone doesn't see this way, so the problem is the person...not them.

#percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #anti annabeth chase #anti percabeth #annabeth chase #percy and annabeth #pjo tv show #pjo series #pjo fandom #pjo

[partiallypearl]

did we forgot the conversation we've had abt nico being homeless and how we shouldn't be weird about people who are unhoused???

#anti pjo fandom #every time i look at the nico tag i sigh

[southasianpercy]

my biggest pet peeve with m/f ships

#and i hate it when they still try to make them bi4bi when the woman literally hates her male partner .. like wtf ?? #bi women shouldn’t & wouldn’t be like this w their male partners #i hate when fandoms do this 😭 #first ship that came to mind…perkybeth #anti percabeth #pjo

[what-shitfuckery-is-this-ew]

A Critique of Riordan's: Neurodivergency

tldr: Rick made ADHD and dyslexia superpowers in the books which fit the time he wrote the books, but it's not accepted now cause it diminishes neurodivergent struggle. At the same time he made autism coded characters the 'annoying' ones and had a very racist thing of having the only neurotypical be Frank.

He tried to fix it in the show. It worked for about 3 seconds.

TW: Ableism, Autism speaks mention, r slur, anti-schizo stuff.

This paragraph is useless so don't read if you don't want to: Sitting in my drafts are 3 different 'A critique of Riordan's' posts i made as i tried to redo my full critique of the Riordanverse with a little more positive feedback and a little less Rick Riordan is the devil spawn. I have decided to not do it in order because because i watched the show and i noticed some things which were iffy and others which were great. So yeah neurodivergency first. Enjoy and think Critically.

Books

Research and Diversity

The books were written in the early 2000s for Rick's son who has ADHD and dyslexia

As a result, it takes on a very "your ADHD and dyslexia is a superpower" message which were popular during the time, but we recognise now has delegitimised neurodivergent struggles

Also as a result, the books were very focused on his son's symptoms, and represented ADHD as a monolith which quickly turned into stereotypes (e.g jumpy, impatient and fast reflexes becoming the connecting feature of half-bloods)

It got so unresearched that at one point he said:

He also talks about coffee in a similar way, despite sugar and coffee not making us more hyperactive and instead making us sleepy. Unless all the scientists and people with ADHD are wrong i really don't know this works.

and also said this: "Leo was extremely ADHD even by demigod standards" Like what

But the worst part about the PJO books was that the neurodivergency was limited to the first book. Percy's ADHD and dyslexia magically vanish and honestly it's only really brought back up in HOO every now and then (not very well might i add)

Ways he could have improved:

He could have given other characters, like Annabeth, more diverse symptoms of ADHD. It wasn't that hard, For Annabeth recognise that she as a 'gifted kid' is more likely to have undiagnosed and so have to face the issues related to being undiagnosed and/or being both a gifted kid and having ADHD, and then also give her more symptoms common to girls like being really chatty or frequently daydreaming.

Continuing having ADHD (and dyslexia) as constant parts of the novels rather than throwaway lines. Build it into the characters actions and persona rather than add it on like an accessory

Research. Never stop researching. Always reach out to people with the disorders and ask them to help. Writing is nothing without research.

Get sensitivity readers

Grammar

This is really minor, but he keeps say ____ was ADHD, and like gramattically that's a no. I am not a disorder i am a person with a disorder . Note for autism, the prefered grammer is Autistic person (aka turn into adjective and describe, something we can't do with ADHD)

Nico and Leo

Making Leo and Nico the 2 characters who were annoying and unlikeable (to everyone else not to fans) was really weird cause these 2 characters were the autistic coded ones.

NOTE: I did see a post explaining it better in the past, and i will link it when/if i find it again.

Tyson and the R Slur

I genuinely think he tried to make the r-slur scene show that it was bad, but the way Percy reacted to it wasn't quite right. Especially for childrens books these things need to be really clear. So it was good to make a bad bully character who was hated say it, but he could have made it better by skipping Percy saying "He’s not r*tarded" and go straight to "I had to try really, really hard not to punch Sloan the face."

The scene was ok, it could have been better, but again these were written in the 2000s, we have to acknowledge that.

Percy and School

Now this is interesting because this is more recent. Percy tried really hard in school and was smart, it was part of his characterisation. But he never did well in school, because that's how his disability affected him (especially since it was the American school system which we all know is shit and even more shit for people with learning disabilities).

The problem stems from TSATS, where Percy is made out to skip school, and not try at all (feeds into people with ADHD do bad cause they don't try/are lazy)

credits to @aroaceleovaldez

Racism: Frank Zhang

Frank Zhang the only Asian member of the 7 has no form of neurodivergency, despite the rest of them all having. It must be a just coincidence that there's a stereotype that asians are really smart and good at maths and the fact that the rest of the Romans have dyscalculia/s.

It's not weird at all that the character instead has lactose intolerance, which is really common in East Asia unlike dyslexia, ADHD or dyscalculia, which has such a low rate of diagnosis because there is a large stigma behind the disorders and because white people don't think Asians can have learning disabilities/s. No not weird at all that the dude is described with symptoms of dyspraxia but Rick refuses to recognise he is not neurotypical/s

I'm stepping out of sarcasm speak to remind you that Asians with learning disabilities are significantly less likely to get diagnosed with anything because:

because their parents won't let them until they have no other choice (glares at my parents) because there's a massive stigma behind intellectual/learning/development disorders in these communities

When we do try to get diagnosed our claims are diminished because of racist stereotypes and the belief that booksmarts/giftedness = no learning disability. It means most psychologists and psychiatrists (who are usually white) think that all Asians are smart so they don't ever have any form of neurodivergency and we're left to struggle.

Schizo Rep

Octavian. Villain. Schizo. Again.

Do i even need to explain this?

Show

Not actually a specific disorder - Percy just has a learning disability

Interestly Percy's dyslexia is just never talked about, And even his ADHD is never mentioned by name. He's got a random learning disorder which isn't specified. At first i assumed it was still ADHD cause the books, but watching more, you realise they aren't actually focusing on what learning disorder he has and what he has to deal with as a result of that. It's just a generic learning disorder.

Which is weird because learning disorders are all different and we all face different things, even with the same disorder. So placing all learning disorders in the same group? not good. Don't know what i expected from disney, but it wasn't this.

Autism Speaks

So the show tried to acknowledge that Percy was constantly told he was special and heroic when he really wanted to have help for his issues and for people to recognise that he has problems and those are bad. It also represented less stereotypical adhd symptoms (though whether that's because the disorder is no longer adhd or whether they wanted more inattentive symptoms to be present, we'll never know)

but then it went ahead and used a broken puzzle metaphor for his neurodivergency?

Puzzle piece metaphors when talking about any form of neurodivergency are a no go because the creators of the metaphor literally want Autistic people dead.

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE AUTISM, WE ARE NOT ALLIES TO THE AUTISM COMMUNITY IF WE USE THE LANGUAGE AUTISM SPEAKS CREATED

Not only that but a broken puzzle is not a good way to represent us anyways because NEURODIVERGENTS AREN'T BROKEN.

#rr crit #percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson #percy jackson and the olympians #my post #rick riordan #anti rr #rrverse #pjo fandom #pjo hoo toa #A critique of Riordan's #rick riordan critical #dyslexia #anti rick riordan #annabeth chase #hoo #heroes of olympus #tw: autism speaks mention #leo valdez #piper mclean #hazel levesque #reyna avila ramirez arellano #frank zhang #heros of olympus #pjo #riordanverse #pjo tv show #pjo series #adhd #neurodivergent

[myhateforcaffinekeepsmealive]

Can the Percy Jackson fandom please stop shipping Reyna with people. I am so tired of aromatic and asexual erasure in fandoms. Like everyone makes a big fuss when characters canonical gay sexuality is changed but when a aromantic and asexual characters is changed no one gives a fuck. Let Aromantic and Asexuals enjoy their representation in peace.

#percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo #reyna avila ramirez arellano #aromantic #asexual #fandom wank #anti Reyna ships

[hermesmyplatonicbeloved]

Tyson Deserved Better - Who Actually Tried To Be Better To Him?

Poseidon Crimes: completely neglects his son, aside from signing him up for school and directing him to Percy

Poseidon Amends: claims Tyson at chb to save Tyson's life, invites Tyson to live in Atlantis where he has a place to live (in a palace no less), food to eat, and other family. Everything provided + free education and a job. No on-screen apology to Tyson tho.

Percy Crimes: Denies that Tyson is his brother (in the same breath that he defends Tyson saying that hes not a monster).

Percy Amends: Calls Tyson his baby brother in front of everyone he previously denied their relationship. Attempts to apologize on screen to Tyson but bungles it up.

Annabeth Crimes: Calls Tyson an "it", "gross" and countless other insults including "monster." She also tried to stop Percy from saving Tyson's life.

Annabeth Amends: Says that the quest she was on was only possible because of Tyson. (Aka. Tyson gets a pass because he was useful and loyal). No attempt at an apology to Tyson's face.

Tyson deserved apologies to his face from all three of these characters, on screen but we never see it. Smh Rick you dropped the ball here.

#tyson deserves better #tyson protection squad #pjo tyson #pjo #pjo hoo toa #annabeth chase #percy #percy jackson #anti annabeth chase #percy and tyson #pjo too #poseidon and tyson #pjo series #pjo spoilers #pjo fandom #rick riordan #tyson deserved an apology on screen from all three of these people PLUS all of camp except for beckendorf #yes including annabeth you irritating abuse apologizing annabeth stans

[doylldonmagar]

So I saw @hermesmyplatonicbeloved 's post and had some thoughts. I agree and disagree. I am a percabeth fan but I also know that some of it is screwy, and if you are familiar with my blog, you know this. I think RR screwed up and wrote out a LOT of trauma, I think he really should have dealt with that better. I think it's not good that he wrote trauma and mental issues and abuse into the foundation of many characters and then has ignored it when it became convenient for the plot.

I would love to see specific quotes and books for these because some of them I have no memory of and would like to revisit them.

I'm gonna talk my way through all of this so I'm gonna text break here

The first point is Percy scaring her to tears. I can only imagine in Tartarus? Like when they're both in their worst state? I don't know. I agree they should have talked about it, but I think they should have talked about all of HoH, which brings me back to saying: Rick really failed at dealing with trauma and processing and long term effects. Honestly, being scared *of* him, yeah I agree that's bad, but is that the situation? If she's scared by his power, then I'm not sure of where I stand on this, I don't know anyone with demigod powers, but I don't think I'd be scared simply because I know someone is capable of hurting me. Plenty of people are capable of hurting me. Like I don't know, what situation is this?

"Percy has been suicidal the whole time annabeth has known him, in BoO Percy attempts suicide and annabeth said nothing, noticed nothing" I'd really like a page or quote because i remember him being suicidal but never attempting. (Im rereading what i wrote, is this maybe referring to percy deciding it would be better if he drowned when hes with Jason? If so, I thought the book said annabeth wasn't told that he wanted to give up) But really my bigger issue with this statement is the fact that it's not necessarily a bad relationship just because a person doesn't realize someone is suicidal, or if their suicidal thoughts are fluctuating. If he's been suicidal the entire time she's known him, how should she know? And why is it the girlfriend's job to stop him from suicide? Like yeah she should care, but that's not her responsibility. No one should feel responsible for a significant other's suicide unless they encouraged the SO to do it.

The judo flip, I agree, annabeth should have been more sensitive to Percy's past and again, I blame Rick for conveniently forgetting that an abused kid is not going to laugh or even take well to being thrown on the ground. This also reminds me of a post I made a while back, because I was so frustrated by media portrayals of women getting upset (usually worried) about another character and shaking them or hitting them or using some form of violence, and that's portrayed as acceptable and normal and as a sign of love. I'm not a fan of that.

"Annabeth likes to keep percy on his toes" this point, I want specific quotes, cause I'd like to go over it again. I agree this is funky. Percy says he feels more comfortable with annabeth and feels like he can talk to her blah blah, but yeah, I think I remember him saying she makes him anxious and that's a problem for me. Like genuinely, to anyone who reads this: if your SO makes you feel uncomfortable, anxious, nervous, or unsafe, please reevaluate your relationship and be safe. That's not good. And back to percabeth, I'm really not sure why RR would say that.

Bringing up abusive stepfather. If annabeth didn't already know about Gabe...I don't know, that says to me that percy was too traumatized to talk about it, in which case, why can annabeth see it in his actions, his comments, his reactions? I don't know that either. But I do know that having met my fair share of traumatized kids, it's not at all uncommon for them to share trauma as a joke and for multiple kids to laugh it off, not to mention suicidal jokes or jokes about their own abuse. Now I want to be clear, I'm not saying that's healthy, I think that's bad, but I also think it's common. And if annabeth doesn't realize what he's really talking about, or is caught up in her own experience, or is uncomfortable, laughing is not an uncommon response. And I don't think that makes their relationship toxic. (And I'm saying it again: I think Rick wrote that so that people could say oh poor percy and feel strongly about how horrible the situation is, but he didn't want to get into the trauma, so by annabeth laughing it off, he can move on with the scene but include little details that show how bad tartarus is)

I don't remember any comments about poseiden, but I agree her interactions with Tyson are problematic. I have zero explanation or excuse, I really don't know what rick was thinking with that, unless it was maybe a way to signify how all halfbloods feel about monsters? (Now that I've said that, that kinda makes sense, if percy sees a monster who was his human friend, but everyone else just sees a monster who is just like the other monsters who have killed their siblings. But still. Annabeth saying he was gross was uncalled for, Rick could have said she was scared or concerned this was a trick or something, but disgust?)

I agree about Percy's unresolved trauma manifesting as fear of annabeth. I already commented on the judo flip, see comments above.

Percy absolutely has horrible self asteem. I'm not sure that's annabeths problem. Yeah she should support him in every way she can, but it's not her responsibility or anyone else's to make him feel better about himself. She should want to, and she should be positive and encouraging, but I don't think Percy's lack of growth is her problem or necessarily a sign of a toxic relationship. It can be, but I'm not certain it is in this case. I think, as I'm sure you know if you've read this much, Rick doesn't know how to write characters who are further along in their trauma- processing, healing, discussing- rick fails to deal with anything besides a currently traumatized kid and a unresolved but out of the directly abusive situation. (This is where I'd like to note, the whole seaweed brain thing, not funny to me, not cute. I'm not a fan because I do think that encourages negative self image. I am aware that that could be link to annabeths childhood, but again, I would expect her to be hyperaware of this sort of emotional abuse. And I blame Rick. Why does she never have her actual abuse mentioned?)

I don't recall annabeth pushing percy to choose between them. I would have said she had doubts about him still wanting to go to CA and he said that he regretted not being there for Estelle but didn't want to be without annabeth (which is kinda cute, kinda codependent to me, and I agree, codependency is not cute)

I would argue the last point "Percy has no interest in going to New Rome or University" is clearly false. In SoN (2nd book of HOO) Percy discovers there are full families living in New Rome, and how it's safe there, and he says multiple times that he wants that, how he remembers he had a girlfriend named annabeth and he wants her to be there and wants to be able to settle down *there*. And in ChaliceotG he's torn, because he does want to stay in New York for his mom and sister, but he really wants to be with annabeth and he loves new Rome. He says multiple times how he wants to go to New Rome. Its true, if the only reason he wants to go is for annabeth, that's a bit funky. But new Rome is the safest place for demigods, and he's been in wars for years, of course he wants that. And wanting to be out of school- okay? New Rome isn't just about the university, not to mention the New Rome university is focused on kids with dyslexia and adhd, obviously. So it will be tailored to him, his struggles are understood, accepted, and aided. Who wouldn't see the appeal in that?

And finally, I agree, that if a character or couple is going to have broad reach, they should be healthy. That's a problem i have with Colleen hoover and all her toxic relationships that have a large audience and are so loved by that audience. And back to this, I hate that the pjo hoo couples are so focused on in the books because fans always pay attention to the couples, but the focus amplifies them, and I think having a relationship be the main focus of a kids/teen/ya book sets up horrible mindsets, and idolizes relationships and all in all is not good for kids. Percabeth or not, healthy or not, I don't think the emphasis on relationships is good.

I might link some of my other posts that I mentioned or that address similar issues in the reblogs

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