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Why Arnor Failed as a State

So in lord of the rings, Aragorn, the titular returning king of the Third book/film, is the last descendant of Elendil, the first High King of Arnor and Gondor.

The entire plot is about how the royal family finaly, after all these years comes home to Gondor in the south from the cold, hard north, where the other realm of the Dunedain failed.

That said we are never really given a particularily detailed breakdown of why Arnor ultimately failed beyond the obvious military one(It was defeated by the rising power of Angmar before that too crashed and burned), the geographics one(the population never really managed to reach the level it could have, and that was before the plague), and the political one(the realm split into 3 lesser realms that squabbled).

On paper these seems easy enough reasons for why the northern realm crashed and burned, but once you actually start digging into it, it becomes pretty obvious that unlike Gondor, Arnor had some very serious fundamental problems that it never really managed to fix, which brought it down in the end.

1. It mishandled it's amazing geopgraphy

Looking at Arnor from above, it seems to have ALL the advantages. It has mazsive, open fertile plains, 2 great rivers, mild climate except for the far borth, clear, easy to defend natural boundaries, with the only open pathway into the realm being the hard to pass through corridor feom forodwaith.

Politically apeaking it was also set for success as the realm had managed to unify all the local peoples within it's borders underneath its banner, which they were content with for a very long time.

So with all of this in mind, where did Arnor go wrong?

It failed to harness it's rivers, that's how.

When choosing the place for capital for the new realm, one would expect it to be on one of the rivers, either at the mouth, or at an important spot.

The Dunedain chose to build the capital Annuminas at the great lake from whoch the Baranfuin/brandywine river originates from.

This isnt a... A terrible choice for a capital.

It allows the royal family to dominate the trade flowing up and down the river by controlling the spot where you can build ships, and have a massive riverrine fleet stationed in case of conflict.

So whats the problem?

The Dunedain never dredged either of their rivers, thats the problem.

Rather than wideding the bottom, to allow bigger, more usefull ships to pass up and down the river for transport of food, trade goods, and troops, Arnor instead did the exact opposite, and not only let natural fords stand, but built bridges that would prevent any trading river network from flourishing.

As far as i can tell, Arnor didnt have any particular noteworthy ocean navy, but even if Arnor was never going to invest into one such, the fact that they never did the work to make their rivers into a fountain of wealth, trade was one of the major reasons for their big decline.

But if they didn't invest into making their rivers more navigable, at the very least they would invest in horse power, in order for their people to travel quickly across the plain, allowing a caravan based trade netowork to do what rivers did not, right?

Well, no, and that leads me into my next point.

2. They Failed to turn into a cavalry based military, economic force, or political one

When the last king of Gondor(then prince) before Aragorns coming near a millennia later, came to destroy Angmar with a truly stunningly large relief force at the end of Angmar's power, he noted to his surprise just how perfect Arnor's plains would be for his cavalry in the task ahead of him.

And he was right. While it was the overhwelming numbers that won the day, it was the cavalry that was the main star, and allowed the army of the west to sweep over Angmar and end it forever with such ease.

With this in mind, it brings the question of why didnt the Arnorian Dunedain switch over to a completely horse based army, or at the very least make knights the shocktroops of the military the way Gondor did?

The reason seems simple enough.

Gondor was forced to fight endless wars against all of its neighbors and had to constantly adapt and change and improved, while Arnor was at peace for the better part of a millenium before it broke.

When the successor state of Arthedain had to adopt to new warfare, it always found itself outnumbered, and from the accounts of it's wars with Angmar, what they ended up doing was simply rely on powerful fortifications to fight defensive wara, and it's alliance networks to rally addiational troops.

Not strategies withouth merrit, but it's clear that Arthedain never managed to become a particularily great military powerhouse... But it could have if it had changed over to cavalry as the main feature of the army.

Instead they relied on what the numenoreans of old did. Arrow, sword and shield.

They no doubt had mounted troops of some sort, but it was clearly not their speciality just looking at how their successors, the rangers of the north prefer fighting.

But the fact is, Arnor should have had Cavalry centered armies from the very start, leaving behind the old Numenorean way of fighting the moment they realised all their future fighting would be on open plains.

However, this lack of focus on horses had another side effect. One that along with their squandering their rivers would contribute to another problem.

3. A lack of integration of the kingdom's ethnicities.

When Arnor broke off into 3 different realms, while the impetous was 3 sons fighting for control, when you look at the bigger picture, its clear that what actually happened here is that the 3 realms broke off very neatly along the kingdoms 3 main ethnicities, who each backed their own prefered candidate.

Arthedain, the biggest and strongest, centered around the heartland was populated by mostly ethnic dunedain, along with breemen as a smaller ethnicity.

Cardolan was ruled by a dunedain elite, but the ethnicity that dominated was the natice, pre numenorean population who were centered around the barrow tombs they would later be buried in(and would be corrupted by the witch king).

And finally Rhudar was also ruled by a dunedain elite, but the real power behind their revolt against the capital was the natice hillmen, who, being dissatiafied with Dunedain rule, and fueled by ambition decided to ally with Angmar in a bid for supremacy(only to later be exterminated by angmar once they no longer served their purpose).

What we see here is a very clear breakdown of the kingdoms, caused by a failed integration policy.

Clearly Annumias and later Fornost failed to bring these minorities into the fold successfully the way Gondor did eith its minorities, who became proud gondorians.

And we can in large part blame this on the capitals inability to project a sense of unity across the land. Which would have been easy to do if they had successfully tamed and harnessed their rivers, making all 3 corners part of a connected riverrine network, or had used horse based travel and trade as a matter of course to ensure everyone was connected into one economic and political policy.

Its very telling that the only people the Dunedain successfully integrated into their realm were the two minorities who lived right by the capital of Fornost(The hobbits and Breemen). Because these were the people who lived close enough that you could actually get there by foot at a reasonable time.

So with all of this in mind, there is a question to be raised. Why did Arnor squander all of it's natural advantages so badly?

Well i've gone over the military one. A stupily long amount of peace made the realm unprepared for innovation that allowed Gondor to become a powerhouse.

But no the real reason why the Arnorians would have seen no need to make changes to bolster trade, in and outside the kingdom, is due to a factor i have not gone over yet.

4. Trade mistakes.

Arnor and Arthedain both sit on an ancienct road used by the dwarves, both from across the misty mountains in the direction of rivendel, but also from gondor, and far more importantly for this dissection, during both Arnor and Arthedain's lifetimes, this road systwm would have been used by Khazad-Dum, Moria, at it's height.

All 3 directions heading to the Dwarves mines in the blue mountains and the great harbors of the Elven realm of Lindon.

It would in short, be one of the most lucrative trade routes of the age.

But, and this is critical, it was not a network Arnor actually had to do some work to take a advantage of.

They did not need to make caravans, or build trade fleets, ocean or riverrine. Hell, they didn't even need dedicated traders of their own.

They were middle men, who by virtue of sitting right on this route got to toll and harness the wealth this route generated withouth hacing to do any real work.

And that, ultimately was the problem. They didnt need to innovate. They didnt need to adapt and improve and put their land to full use, because all the wealth they could possibly use was there withouth work.

And that sucks, because clearly Arnor had A LOT of products they could have sold abroad. We can tell that just by looking at it's most prosperous successor state(the shire) and looking at what sort of technology they inherited from their original overlords.

The hobbits of the shire has paper mills, clockmakers, dye industry, matches, bound books, door knobs, integrated locks and latches, and on and on. Compare it to rohan, and they are centuries ahead in tech by our standards.

It's often easy to forget(give tolkien was clear that hobbits just did not move past a certain point in techonology) that by the standards of the day, the Hobbits are very technologically advanced compared to most... And ALL of that is things they inherited from their overlords.

Wheter Arthedain and by extension Arnor invented all of these technologies themselves(as there are a number of things clearly not found in gondor it cant all have been inherited from numenor), or they adapted it through Trade with Khazad Dum or Lindon, improved upon such foreign concepts, or kore likely a mixture of all of these, it's clear that Arnor had the capacity to make these, and by extension the fact they are still around after the kingdom fell, in the form of the hobbits being self sufficcient(otger than presumably the raw metal materials they trade for with the dwarves) means this was not some exceptional level of tech for the kingdom.

It was the kingdom's standard, and if they had been interested in actually exporting these things abroad, Arnor would probably have been more wealthy than Gondor by a far margin.

But they didnt. Because they didnt see any need to innovate their trade capacity in such a manner. Which in turn led to them not harnessing their lands capacity for cheap, easy transportations, which in turn led to them not integrating their people the way gondor(who's people are all connected through the sea and Anduin, and what comes with them), which led to them being far more divided than they should have been.

And while their long period of peace allowed them to overtake Gondor in so many things, when it came to military advancements, they were not only voefully behind, but when it came time to innovate, they lacked both the resources, and the spark to truly overhaul their military and tactics, instead relying on the same old classics until it brought the kingdom crashing down.

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I amar prestar aen. Han matho ne nen. Han mathon ned chae. A han noston ned 'wilith.

The world is changed I feel it in the water I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it.

It began with the forging of the Great Rings. Three were given to the Elves under they sky. Seven to the Dwarfs in their mountain halls. And nine, nine rings were gifted to the race of men, who, above all else, desire power. For within these rings was bound the strength and will to govern each race.

But they were, all of them, deceived, for another Ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a master Ring, to control all others. And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.

One Ring to rule them all.

One by one, the free lands of Middle-Earth fell to the power of the Ring, but there were some who resisted.

A last alliance of men and elves marched against the armies of Mordor, and on the very slopes of Mount Doom, they fought for the freedom of Middle-Earth.

Victory was near, but the power of the ring could not be undone. It was in this moment, when all hope had faded, that Isildur, son of the king, took up his father’s sword.

He stomped on Narsil and the sword broke under the boot, with his right hand and the one ring he held the mace, with his left he grabbed Isildur by the neck and he lifted Isildur high up in the air and Sauron transformed back.

Isildur was like a punching bag in Halbrand's left arm and Isildur looked with big eyes, "huh? What the fuck. This cannot be true. The last trace of humanity. There you are. You're back, it's been years ago. Halbrand. The last platoon of humanity that you lost on Numenor is back. The last trait of humanity in you is back", Isildur hung like a sip of water in Halbrand's left arm and he threw Isildur crushing and thundering like a small stone into the ranks of the Dunedain and Elves, "FUCK OFF BACK TO ARNOR! Fuck off back to Annuminas and bang your whore, you little bunch of shit", roared Halbrand.

"You're a virgin and i'm not haha haha what a loser. Kneel! On your knees. Kneel before the Elves and cry for your life Mairon. Tremble in FEAR Mairon! Submit to Vilya!

KNEEL DOWN! LET IT BE FEAR", roared Elrond like a maniac. Elrond shot a whirlwind with Vilya at Halbrand and the one ring shattered the whirlwind with a thunderclap.

"The one ring answers only to Halbrand alone he has no other master", said Talion and Khamul laughing.

A gust of wind came towards Halbrand and the ring formed a sphere and the gust of wind was smashed in all directions, "Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrâkatuluk agh burzum ishi krimpatul.

One Ring to rule them all, one Ring to find them. One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness, bind them", roared the one Ring and Elrond and the elves covered the ears and the one ring, the orcs, Halbrand, trolls, Nazgul, laughed aloud, "Buy earmuffs when you have a problem with Black Speech."

The most epic fight: The one Ring versus the airy one Vilya. The Fallen One versus The Lord of Rivendell

"I DEMAND YOU TO KNEEL MAIRON. GIVE ME THE ONE RING. THE HOUSE OF ELROND SENDS HIS REGARDS!

I will humiliate you completely!

I SAID KNEEL A NO WILL NOT BE TOLERATED I'LL DRAG YOU THROUGH VALINOR", Elrond and Vilya shot a tidal wave of galloping horses at Halbrand and the one ring broke it apart with a bolt of lightning. Galloping water horses darted at Halbrand and the one ring formed lightning and crushed it, "oh come on boy, you know what half-elf, you can hope, fear, think and believe what you want, Peredhel.

Oh come on boy you know how me the elves would never kneel to me and I never kneel to you. Damn proud that i'm still a virgin you are probably contagious with STDs and your Dad was a hypocritical asshole! Do you know that i hate that name? I hate the name Mairon.

Phew Mairon, Annatar, Gorthaur, Sauron, Zigur i tremble in fear, no not really.

•Memories of bygone ages, fragments of the past: A good man can fall

The beginning of the days

I have been awake since before the breaking of the first silence. In that Time I have had many names.•

Call me the fallen one call me the biggest loss with the heavenly hosts, i was the biggest loss, I never wanted to be a Maiar either. In heaven and here on Arda it would have escalated when Melkor had immediately declared war on everything and everyone.

A good man can fall I was a good man for over a thousand years before I fell in the first age, Peredhel, the breaking of the first silence, the beginning of the days, half-elf. The good man has fallen, I was a good man for over a thousand years when I came to Arda, half-elf! Perfectionism is just as unattainable as buying earmuffs because you have a problem with black speech, Elrond Peredhel, son of the hypocritical asshole Earendil!

My name is Halbrand!

I'm not a puppy you can take for a walk I am no mutt for hypocritical elves because you don't like something", roared Halbrand back.

Isildur landed right in Elrond and both men were thrown against a rock by the immense force and the rock broke apart through the tremendous force, "that was a lesson for me, ouch my back oh that was memorable for the rest of life now I can't sit for a week that was a lesson for this stupid, spoiled Dunedain", said Isildur and he rubbed his back.

"Hypocritical Elves. Your and Galadriel's double standards and immortality Elrond it stinks after dog shit you little, hypocritical bastards", screamed Isildur and the Dunedain and Elrond and the elves didn't say a word.

"Get out of my country! GET OUT! OUT! Everyone of you OUT! I SAID OUT! You have no reason to be here", roared Halbrand.

"Away in rank and file. No Dunedain will approach your land I'm not challenging you Halbrand i'm no better than you, the eyes of the Dunedain are not upon you. Halbrand you have my word no Dunedain will approach your borders within 100 miles.

I am not threatening or challenging you thank you for everything you gave it was more than just real Halbrand you're a real man you did nothing wrong. I don't blame you for anything. Nobody has permission to judge you you were a gray hero. You are on your own side. This is "fucking" Halbrand the best man of all.

Back to the borders. You're due Elrond for your mistakes, I can drag you through the streets of Annuminas too Elrond. That is just hatred which Halbrand has for the elves, you are not innocent.

Go to a doctor when you have a fucking problem Peredhel that goes for you, the wanker Celeborn, the motherfucker Finrod and the hypocritical Noldor Princess Galadriel that goes for all four of you you four are not as important as you think you are and Valinor is not innocent!

Isildur vs. Elrond

"You'd throw me into the fires of Mount Doom when you had the chance you hypocritical pig. Elves are a bunch of hypocrites", roared Isildur and the Dunedain. Elrond and the elves didn't say a word, "fuck."

Everything you want is war it's a fact", called Isildur and the Dunedain and they retired in order and Elrond and elves didn't say a word. Isildur and the Dunedain waved goodbye to Halbrand, and Halbrand waved back. Elrond rubbed his head, "fuck."

Elrond eyed Halbrand and Halbrand waved him away, "move your ass! Get your ass off my borders and put your penis in your bitch Celebrian! Get out of my country you little hypocritical asshole! You have no reason to be here move your ass away from my land what is so hard to understand about a no! Get earmuffs when you have a problem with black speech! Go to a Doctor when you have a Problem! Get your muzzle out of my sight before I punch it! I SAID GET OUT YOU LITTLE BASTARD. IT'S MY LAND! IT'S MY RING! What is so difficult to understand", screamed Halbrand like a deafening jackhammer that knees wobbled.

Elrond and the elves didn't say a word and walked away. A single tear ran down Elrond's face, "fuck."

Halbrand watched them go until they were gone, "go be free", said Halbrand and all Orcs, Wargs, Haradrim, Rhun soldiers, Trolls smiled, "you were always the best we always loved you. We'll never forget you Halbrand", and all of the Orcs, Wargs, Haradhrim, Rhun soldiers, Trolls smiled and walked away from Mordor. Halbrand put a hand on the nine Nazgul with the one ring, "Go my brothers and sisters. Go. Find Peace. Find peace! I redeem you my Brothers and Sisters."

The nine ringwraiths, Sauron's mouth, the Witch King, Khamul, Talion smiled and they crumbled to dust, "Farewell Halbrand. We always loved you brother. You were the best leader, general, king, chief, warrior, lord, commander, politician of all. You were the best of all it is so much more than just real this is far from over.

Halbrand pulls himself to Justice, Damage repaired, a good deed, something more than just real

On a scale of 1 to 10, you are an 11 you're the best. You're awesome. We will never forget you Halbrand.

Mordor remembers Halbrand. You helped enough and you gave enough. You are far smarter than Melkor or Manwë could ever be. You are far smarter than Melkor could ever be. Melkor would try to kill you first of all when he came back. Shit would have been up in heaven and earth when he had declared war on you all right away.

The student has far surpassed the master Halbrand. Girls, grab a guy who does craft. Very stylish jewelry if you ask me", and the nine ringwraiths, Sauron's mouth, the Witch-King, Khamul crumbled to dust.

The nine rings of power fell to the Ground powerless and Halbrand threw the nine rings of the Ringwraiths in the fires of Mount Doom and Halbrand closed the Black Gate with magic.

Halbrand went back to Barad-Dûr alone and ate clams when a tidal wave came at him and he smashed it, "get out of my land Artanis! GET OUT!"

"You're a virgin Sauron and i am not haha haha haha haha. What a loser. You don't even know how to use your penis. Haha haha. You're just a loser nothing more, pillow fucker. I'm so much better than you. What a loser. I'm a Goddess and you're nothing haha haha I'm perfect. You can't anything Sauron. Wimp. I'll make you the laughing stock in Valinor haha haha, wimp what a loser I'll go to Alqualonde and make you a laughing stock Mairon. I can have anyone, I could easily kill you you little pillow fucker i can find you anywhere. I can kill you with your own arm Gorthaur. I would take any other guy but you, little wanker. Just a loser in life, you and your smelly ring. I could cuckold you with anyone. I'm so much better than you. You're just doomed. Violence against men is always justified. I love it when men suffer and beg. A dog kicked your ass haha haha haha haha what a big loser. FEAR ME BASTARD! Kneel and suck my boots!

FEAR ME, LOVE ME AND DISPAIR BASTARD! Wallow in the dirt in front of me!

I SAID FEAR ME, CRY FOR YOUR LIFE! MY WILL, LET IT BE FEAR! I'M QUEEN!

Feel the foundations of the earth BASTARD!

Submit to me!

Give me the one Ring! FEAR ME.

INSTEAD OF A DARK LORD YOU HAVE A VERY ANGRY SHE-ELF", screamed Galadriel like a maniac.

"Submit", screamed Nenya madly, "huh? Wait. Hold on. Hold my ale. Wait let me think for a second. How about a...NO. NO", said the one Ring and Halbrand sipped wine and shoved Galadriel's magic away.

The earth trembled and a massive water wave rushed towards Halbrand and the one ring shattered the wave with strikes of thunder.

The most epic fight: Stronger than the foundations of the Earth: Pure disgust and hate:

The greatest loss in the heavenly hosts

vs.

The Lady of Light.

The one Ring vs. the watery one of Adamant Nenya

A tornado rushed towards him and the one ring smashed it with a bang, "fuck off back to Lorien you little whore, I never kneel before you, cruel bitch. My knees don't bend that easily, madwoman! The Silmaril also seem to have driven you insane in the head like your hypocritical Uncle Feanor, Artanis!"

Galadriel screamed, "I SAID FEAR ME! KNEEL AND KISS MY BOOTS. LET IT BE FEAR. I'll fuck your head until you're dumb I'll wash your head until you're stupid in the brain you little brainwashed whore. Kneel before the elves! KNEEL INFRONT OF ME AND CRY BASTARD", yelled Galadriel and Nenya's magic, Galadriel and her luminous form shot at Halbrand, and Halbrand and the One Ring's power pushed it away.

"ON YOUR KNEES BASTARD", screamed Galadriel like a madwoman. Galadriel and Nenya shot a pillar of flame from Laurelin and Telperion at Halbrand and the one ring shattered it with a thunderbolt.

"I KILL YOU YOU LITTLE WANKER", Heavy magic clashed, Galadriel shooting magical storms at Halbrand and he formed a magical mirror, "Thirst cannot be stilled by drinking seawater, can it Artanis, of the hypocritical House of Finarfin", said Halbrand.

"I kill you Bastard I am queen, I am goddess", screamed Galadriel like a maniac. Galadriel shot magical whips at Halbrand and he shattered it with magical shields and reflected it back and Galadriel landed on the ground, "YOU! You're no Queen you're just a whore that's what you are you're just a smelly cow, nothing more nothing less. You will never be a Queen you're no more than a cruel, mad bitch who would fuck with anyone.

And damn proud that I'm still a virgin and you and your whore daughter Celebrian aren't. No need to catch STDs from you, smelly whore.

By the love to the All Father Eru Iluvatar, please let the Maiar of the 3 Age eat his clams in peace. I want to chill, Artanis!

And you have no business here at all. You out of all of them.

I said leave me alone! You're hypocritical, you keep threatening me. Your appointment with the doctor has long expired. Get out of my borders with your smelly magic and your hypocritical ring Nenya you smelly Noldor Princess, that you not choke on your own double standards borders on madness and stupidity Altáriel of the hypocritical House of Finarfin. I worked until i was very old i have more money than you and your hypocritical Friend Elrond.

You're a hypocrite like your smelly brother Finrod and stupid uncle Feanor you are a madwoman probably the silmaril drove you insane in the head too because of your ugly bloodlines and legacies, SMELLY COW!

You'd have to choke on your own bullshit you babble. Smelly, hypocritical Lady of the Galadhrim. Get out of my Land Altáriel. You have no reasons to be here let alone having to constantly challenge or threaten me. AWAY FROM MY BORDERS. Nothing is your business! Leave me alone!

Little, smelly, hypocritical cow.

I would let you win I would throw myself into Mount Doom with the ring, Galadriel. I am not on your side, you are cruel and insane Altáriel you're just a bitch nothing more, and you have never been on my side. Enough said.

So you have your way, i can say and do what i want someone would always say it's wrong. I'll let you win in the end. As soon as this is all over, I'll throw myself into Mount Doom", said Halbrand and Galadriel teleported away.

Halbrand ate clams in Barad-Dur and drank wine and read in books and got into bed, and he fell asleep peacefully, "I think in the next years I'll ride east and look around a little and see if things can be changed", thought Halbrand and he fell asleep.

Lorien

Galadriel roared insanely angry in Lorien, "I'M QUEEN! QUEEN! QUEEN! MY WILL! MY WILL ALONE! I WANT TO BE A QUEEN!"

Haldir, Celebrian, Celeborn and the Galadhrim shook their heads.

"It was a draw, he's equal to us we're not stronger than Halbrand. He won against the last alliance, he disbanded the nazgul and released the orcs, haradhrim, trolls.

That's a problem with the Noldor, the pride and hypocrisy.

And now let's take a close look at the politics, visions, magic and we tug at the rat's tail and we'll see what could happen. Now we're going to address J.R.R Tolkien and Peter Jackson directly.

By the love to the All Father Eru Iluvatar we have to completely touch this whole framework and listen closely to what's being said and we cover it all so that everyone is hit. And now let's take a look and we wiggle this a bit.

So what happened now? How could he be standing there where he was? Yes, that was an attack on freedom. Land has been snatched, Mordor, Southlands. Freedom was attacked really hard. War-torn country. Freedom was banged really hard in the ass without lube to the bitter stop. We could also have attacked Dol Goldur or Angmar to change something.

This makes Halbrand a gray hero or an anti hero, anti hero does not have a happy ending, until another evil creature would come with a own evil will, until a villain or new powers, new magic, new monsters would emerge - he is neither good nor bad.

And that means let the good win -

A gray hero is not a PRO HERO - That makes Halbrand grey, a gray hero or an anti hero that means, conversely, there is something good in him and it can be many things that are as wide as a bouquet of flowers - maybe crack; disturbed or unserious. It creaks there a little bit in the beams.

And all for a woman she's is just a hypocrite like her brother Finrod - until the last trace of humanity was gone. Something in him says this is wrong. Something says he can heal and he can change a little thing and he disbanded the Ringwraiths there he dragged himself to justice a good deed, he apologized, he released the orcs, trolls, wargs and the others, also a good deed and something more than just real. He must accept that he committed these acts.

Yes a hero on his own way.

Yes betrayal, yes genocide, yes evil deeds.

Yes a good man can fall.

It was the energy - "i will show them" - and Halbrand showed what can happen - a power vacuum; - fight for land; wheels of power - and a power vacuum can create terrible things. And in Arnor, for example, there more and more hill people split off from the Dunedain. When the Nazgul and Orcs say they loved him in their own way, you can't change that Altáriel and the Ringwraiths are gone.

A place in world history, Halbrand won against the last alliance, he helped in politics, metallurgy, warfare, leadership and we have to make the best of it.

There are many political problems, gray or narrow-minded politics abound. There are enough issues that need to be changed otherwise we will have civil wars again, which will degenerate into world wars.

And we can be glad Melkor hasn't shown up yet and he will and then we all have real problems, Melkor is Palpatine the two are of a class and are probably best friends the two probably have a beer together every night and laugh up the sleeve.

Melkor is evil personified.

Melkor is Lucifer.

Melkor says - "I'm the villain and I don't give a shit".

It's the energy - "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?"

It's the energy - "The boss is screwing you and he's screwing you really hard. The boss is the heavyweight. The boss gives you a really bad time. The boss is really shoving shit in your face. The boss is ready for Champions League."

It's the energy - "Here we have the big boss and with the big boss you can't eat cherries with him. The big boss plays really bad. The big boss is really heavy."

You know, Lady Galadriel, you would have to travel to the other continents alone to see what things needed to be done differently. That energy speaks volumes and shows the whole truth. Why this energy - I can make him worse? Why this energy - I'm fed up with the dark Lord instead you have a very angry she-elf? Why this energy - i go west and i will remain Galadriel? Why this energy - I can kill him with his own arm? Why this energy - he deceived me and as an excuse he was hot? Why this energy - I'm a crazy, spoiled Noldor Princess and I force everyone to love me on their knees? Why this energy - I could also cause genocide? Because she's a hypocrite and she's horny to be a Queen. I would like to see stories reversed roles. Halbrand is not needed, he has a place, but neither are you needed Galadriel, you have a place but you will not be a queen Galadriel.

He told you that he can't help you. Halbrand told you that he cannot help you he told you that he committed bad deeds. Believe what you like Galadriel, you are a grown woman. Galadriel if you didn't want to get on that ship to Valinor then you would have had to leave Lindon then you would have had to go away if you can't change something right away or you don't like war, you would have to go away for a while and you would have had to look elsewhere in Middle-earth. You are a murderer, Galadriel, as are all of us, most likely some Elves wanted to be Orcs.

That helped the metal industry.

It is possible to manipulate, it cannot always be manipulated, the emphasis it is possible and that means you should have left Numenor and looked for clues in other places Galadriel. He hid because he never had the true power. If Halbrand had been on another raft or ship - and you would have met the other people on the other raft and you would have been a dead woman Galadriel, you didn't come because of Halbrand or Sauron but because you couldn't change anything at the moment. You are important Galadriel, but not as important as you think, you still need to know where your freedom ends and someone else's freedom begins, wars break out for that as you can see.

You see, Halbrand would throw himself into the fires of Mount Doom with the one ring. You see he would put himself in the line of fire between Melkor and Eru and would accept Melkor killing him.

Galadriel you are immortal what more do you want? You are capable of entering the minds of others Galadriel. This choice between immortality and mortality stinks of dog shit because that's not a choice. Do you think it's cool to be immortal or to have a long life? Because it isn't it is also an assault on liberty. This immortality is madness and stinks to Heaven. When you laugh at someone making mistakes or gossip behind someone's back then you are a whore Altáriel. This immortality is not healthy, it is false and hypocritical Finrod claims it is sane to be immortal and that is not true he's a hypocrite and so are you Galadriel your brother shouldn't be surprised that Halbrand killed him And now you and your brother can start crying in Valinor Halbrand did something for the economy of Numenor when he stood in the forge and swept, you, Elrond and Finrod cannot say that", said Haldir and the Galadhrim and Galadriel hissed like a mad snake, "I'M QUEEN! QUEEN! QUEEN! QUEEN! QUEEN!"

"Whoever says I'm a king or queen isn't a king or queen", said Celeborn and Galadriel punched Celeborn in the face with brutal force, "I CAN HAVE ANYONE I JUST SHOWCASE MY PUSSY WHILE YOU ONLY HAVE A PUNY PENIS", Celebrian punched Galadriel in the face, "do it again i want to see it again hit him again and you're in real trouble!"

"Your unwashed pussy stinks of seaweed. That would be new to me that you can have anyone. You're a loser at fucking. You're just a cruel bitch. Spoiled brat like Finrod, Elrond and Melkor. Melian should have banged Halbrand that would have been cool Melian should have married him after Thingol watched the flowers grow from below", said Celeborn laughing and spat on her feet and everyone laughed aloud over Galadriel. Celebrian laughed aloud over her.

Rebellion

•The hypocrisy of Elrond, Finrod Felagund and Galadriel to be immortal

•The Hypocrisy and Mistakes of Manwë and Eonwë, the Hypocrisy of the Valar

•Melian's police state

•Mortal men doomed to die

•The Kingslaying

•War crimes

•Pride and Prejudice

•Attack and threat to freedom, equality, domestic politics and foreign policy

Haldir shows Galadriel her mistakes, crimes and the limits

The General of the Galadhrim vs. The Lady of Light and Finrod Felagund

"I'm saying I wish I wasn't immortal, I'm saying I wish I wasn't an Elf and I'm not saying I want to be an Orc, Snaga or Uruk you can think what you like Lady Galadriel. And i don't care what you think.

Make out of it what you want LADY GALADRIEL. You won't be able to find out, Lady Galadriel, if some Elves didn't actually want to be Orcs because those Orcs are long dead LADY GALADRIEL! Grab it and make something out of it that is the position you are in as the Lady of Light and as Lady of the Galadhrim.

Free will belongs to Eru Iluvatar and not to you, Manwë, Eonwë, your brother Finrod or Elrond. The free will belongs to the All Father only Eru Iluvatar can give free will", said Haldir and the Galadhrim, "I WANT TO BE A QUEEN", screamed Galadriel like a madwoman, "Nobody needs hypocritical shit just like her hypocritical brother Finrod", said Celeborn, Celebrian and Haldir.

Galadriel didn't say a word and grabbed wine, "i need to get drunk and then i go to a brawl I also want a brawl like Mairon did on Numenor."

"He's proven his worth. Halbrand has given enough, showing what he can and can't do. I don't understand why you keep challenging him. That's enough to start wars as you can see. You are no better than him. Why are you racist towards Halbrand, you are absolutely racist towards him. Yes you're a hypocrite like Finrod. This immortality stinks to high heaven. I'll tell you something Lady Galadriel, I wish I was alone like Halbrand, I wish I wasn't an elf, Lady Galadriel. The assault on liberty through Sauron was one thing, but it was also an assault on Halbrand's liberty when the last Alliance attacked he was a Student of Aule and Melkor that doesn't mean he was a friend at the same time of Melkor. The biggest war of all approaches and we all have to prepare for that and Halbrand started it.

The Rebellion in the sky Galadriel in heaven and here on Arda it would have escalated when Melkor had immediately declared war on everything and everyone, Galadriel.

I wish Eru would remove that immortality Eru would have to remove the immortality for this we would all have to pray to him who are immortal that he removes it, and there Halbrand can help and it wouldn't even be for free for him, that we don't want the immortality but that we want to see our end in the near future.

Melkor would try to kill Halbrand first when he came back and I say he would try and Halbrand knows that. You are not as smart as you think you are Galadriel. The student was always stronger than the master. Melkor could never be where Halbrand stood. Everything is connected Galadriel. War bad, and sometimes you don't have a choice.

Melkor cannot stand where Halbrand stood. This is Halbrand's position as a former student of Melkor.

We all get real trouble when Melkor, Ancalagon, Gothmog and Ungoliant return one day.

Halbrand was stronger than Melkor at any point in his life and Melkor didn't realize it because now Melkor realizes that Halbrand, and we must start calling him that, was always stronger and that means Halbrand protects, and that makes him a knight, and that's also a good deed and something more than just real, he draws Melkor's attention completely and that means you still have to take action against Melkor otherwise you're a bloody hypocrite. Melkor will show up somewhere and we have to realize that he can't hunt Halbrand right away events will occur now. Melkor is a term he shared in the knowledge of the other Valar, Melkor was selfish he is evil personified. Halbrand draws Melkor's eyes completely on himself.

"When Morgoth was defeated, it was like a big fist around my neck was gone."

The big Boss, The Corrupter, Lucifer, This guy is really heavy, this guy plays in the Champions League, this guy pours you shit in the face, the snake, the greatest villain that ever existed, evil personified, this guy and Palpatine are best friends, here you have to really muster something to defeat and kill this guy

versus

the former Student: Which of the two men is smarter

Mirkwood

"They're coming. With the one ring and the three elven rings he can destroy Eru", said Celeborn and he, Legolas, Thranduil, Haldir, Tauriel and the Galadhrim looked to the sky.

Valinor

Galadriel, Melian and Finrod ran to a window, "fuck."

Lindon

Cirdan, Gandalf and Galdor looked to the heaven, "oh damn shit."

Rivendell

Elrond, Glorfindel, Celebrian looked up at the northern sky, "oh no. No no no please no."

Annuminas, Arnor, northern Kingdom

Isildur, Elendur, Valandil and the Dunedain ran to the king's court, "Please no."

East sea

Halbrand looked to the sky, "YOU! I've got completely different words in my head you spoiled brat! I have really hard words in my head. You're just a child throwing a tantrum Melkor, I have really hard words for you, you stupid bunch of shit", said Halbrand and the one Ring.

Eru Iluvatar, Melian, Eonwë, Aulë, Tulkas, Ulmo and Manwë laughed aloud in Valinor, "that's it."

Jet-black chains broke apart with a clatter across his back. Ankle shackles jumped out of their moorings and the chain snapped apart by inky magic. Wires with iron chains sprang from his ankles. Handcuffs fell to the floor with a crash and a crack ripped through the void, "TO WAR! I'll rape and kill you Halbrand. I'll kill you first my former student. I will kill you all. Kill them all", roared Morgoth like a maniac in the shallows and from the primeval depths rose Ungoliant, Glaurung, Carcharoth, Gothmog and Ancalagon.

The master was always far surpassed. The disciple was always stronger, smarter and wiser than the master. The student was always more important, smarter and stronger than the master. The student is stronger than Earendil the Sailor.

There is a difference between strength and power

The apprentice was stronger than Melkor at any point in his life and Morgoth didn't realize it

After everything that's happened, everything that's happening right now after the power vacuum, Melkor would try to kill Halbrand first. Most likely some Elves even wanted to be Orcs.

The student has far surpassed the master and Halbrand would destroy the one ring when Melkor was weakened and dead and that would destroy Mount Doom, the Black Gate, Barad-Dur and Mordor and that are cool and good deeds and good deeds are so much more than real but you can't force it right away Galadriel and that's maybe the best he can be.

Morgoth would never try to kill or capture you or Elrond first, never ever Galadriel. You undermine Halbrand and that's enough to start wars Galadriel.

The disciple is far stronger, smarter and wiser than the master.

Halbrand is the lesser evil because he's on his own side that's what you need to understand Galadriel. You have to understand Halbrand is alone.

Melkor would try to kill Halbrand first and then shit would really take off, Morgoth would never kill or capture you first Galadriel, never. It's called feud.

Halbrand would never fight Melkor at your side Galadriel. Halbrand is on his own side. Halbrand is constantly being challenged by someone. You're no cooler than him. Isildur is no cooler than Halbrand. Elrond isn't cooler.

Elrond would throw Isildur into the fires of Mount Doom if he had the chance, Galadriel.

We've all been in Middle-earth too long, Galadriel. We all, all elves, should have gone to Valinor for some time. Halbrand, Celeborn, Elrond, you, me, others, we've been on the continent too long Galadriel.

Yes Middle-Earth is my home like Valinor but we were too long here.

Middle-Earth is my home but so is it by Halbrand. Manwë made mistakes this immortality stinks to Heaven I wish I wasn't an elf.

We all get in real trouble when Morgoth or Ungoliant come back one day, then Valinor would be due and rightly so", said Haldir and the Galadhrim and Celeborn nodded, "yes."

Celebrian nodded.

"That's the whole point he was a good man for well over a thousand years before he fell in the first age, you almost think he's been a good man long enough when you look at this shit.

Evil has been in the world since the Ainulindale, Melkor was defeated and Halbrand never had the true power so he went into hiding and it makes perfect sense that he doesn't want to be a Maiar. The Kraken of Moria, for example, is self-contained.

He'd rather throw himself into the fires of Mount Doom with the ring when it's over. That has to be thought about. He'd rather shout out to Eru that he doesn't want to be immortal when it's over and Eru Iluvatar would fulfill it, free will is with the All-Father alone, Eru loves him, Eru will probably be proud of everything Halbrand has achieved.

The beginning of the days the breaking of the First Silence when he came to Arda with the Valar and the other Maiar, yes a good man can fall and yet he was a good man for thousand years before he fell in the first Age.

Halbrand is not Lucifer or Satan he is set a few floors below. Melkor is Lucifer or Satan.

Maybe he doesn't want to be a Maiar.

He would destroy the Ring as you can see when it was over, but he would also throw himself into the fires of Mount Doom, and that's not right either I definitely don't want to see him throwing himself into the fires of Mount Doom this is my opinion, it has to end somewhere, an unjust peace is far worse.

Most likely some elves wanted to be orcs, you won't be able to find out anymore because these orcs or elves are long dead.

Feanor killed a lot of people.

The elves have made many mistakes. We wouldn't know him when he were perhaps the most outstanding blacksmith, politician or jeweler in the World on the other continents and he had never been a Maiar, that also has to be considered, we can't twist the shit how it fits. This isn't just a battle between good and evil it's so much more than just real.

I don't want to be immortal either. I don't want to be an elf either and I'm not saying I want to be an orc.

Everyone should do what they want, I would very much like to die sooner or see my end sooner.

The Valar are a bunch of hypocrites. Melian was a bloody hypocrite. I would also like to chill out.

Halbrand would throw himself with the ring into the fires of Mount Doom when it was over.

Eru Iluvatar

I definitely don't want to see him throw himself into Mount Doom I would throw up it's just my opinion you can all think what you want, I don't give a fuck, think what you want you are all adults, that also has something to do with acceptance. The elves are not that important, after the fight against Melkor all elves should have gone to Valinor for a certain time, all elves and not some. I would also like to be alone as he is I would have no problem being alone or dying alone Elrond fucks and kisses terribly, I would also like to have decent fucks. I wish I was still a virgin I wish I wasn't a mother, I'd like to fall in love properly Elrond just fucks horribly that is very terrible I would like to have sex more often. Elrond is terrible in bed I would like more sex too. I'd like to just go out there and see what's in store for me I would just like to wait and see what happens I never wanted to be an elf either. He has more money than everyone else he worked until he was old. He never took a day off and was always working it's more than understandable that he wants to chill out, I'd like that too. He dismissed the orcs and disbanded the nazgul, very good deeds.

Look how much money he's got in his pockets, he's filthy rich by heavy metal industry. He probably has more money than anyone in the known world.

I'd love to have more sex, I'd love to have sex with a stranger. I would like to have a sex relationship, one night stand. He's extremely old and can tell he's a virgin I wish I was alone like he is. There's no fucking in this world, it's always about power", said Celebrian and Celeborn, the Galadhrim and Haldir nodded.

"Damn it! Fuck! Crap! DAMN SHIT. I want to be a Queen", Galadriel smashed dishes at the trees in Lorien and Celeborn, Haldir and the Galadhrim ducked their heads, "away from here there is war out there.

I wish I was alone I wish I was still a virgin the sex is cruel, you fuck terribly you are terrible and cruel in bed do you know that Galadriel.

Those are lies you're not better than him, you're not that important that would be news to me that you can have any woman or man you're cruel, mad and hypocritical Altáriel.

You are an absolute loser at fucking Galadriel. I would like to have a reasonable fuck", said Celeborn and Galadriel didn't say a word and Haldir and all of the Galadhrim laughed aloud over her and Galadriel grabbed wine, "crap", and Celebrian, Haldir and the Galadhrim laughed aloud over Galadriel.

Celeborn annuls the marriage. Celeborn says marriage never happened and Galadriel could do a handstand and couldn't change it

"I wish I was as smart, powerful, and strong as Halbrand was it was more than just real. The way he threw Isildur into the ranks of the Dunedain and Elves with his tremendous force was cool. Nothing is his fault he won against the last Alliance the Nazgul are disbanded", said Celeborn, "and I'll tell you something Altáriel, the hatred against the dwarves is just and legitimate, you are not as important as you think you are Galadriel. Finrod made mistakes, Galadriel. He would rip your head off if you visited him in Valinor, Valinor is not innocent. Finrod might protect things too, and he doesn't do it because he thinks it's cool to be immortal. Elendil, Gil-galad, they made mistakes. Manwë, Eonwë they made mistakes. Halbrand is on his own side he told you to leave him alone that he can't help you. I wish I could have given and helped with as much as he did", said Celeborn, "Oh by the way Galadriel, I'm annulling the marriage. The marriage never took place Galadriel. You are not as important and smart as you think, I hereby annul the marriage it never took place Galadriel."

Galadriel screamed and she smashed dishes, chairs, china and plates at the Mallorn trees, "fuck, fuck, fuck. DAMN SHIT!"

"I won't help you with anything anymore when you want to spend time in Valinor in the next years find the ways, powers, resources, protections, or magic for it and you will find ways to get to Valinor for yourself and others I know this because you are extremely magical and resourceful Galadriel.

Valinor is not innocent. We are now divorced people, i am free, i am not yours, Haldir is not yours. We're now divorced people Galadriel i'm not yours and i'm not a malewife. If you want to stay in Valinor forever fine, but then leave him alone.

I finally want to fall in love properly. It's enough I've had enough. He doesn't have to prove anything. You're free Galadriel but so is Halbrand and you have to understand that you don't have to deal with him, but he doesn't have to deal with you either. Halbrand is not yours and you're not his", called Celeborn through the trees and he walked away with Haldir and the Galadhrim, "Yes, I definitely need to spend some time in Valinor over the next few months and years. I will find the magic to get there. Talk to him or don't. He has a place as soon as Melkor is back. Halbrand would throw himself into the fires of Mount Doom, Galadriel, think about that. Talk to him or leave him alone. You were never on his side and he was never on your side you made mistakes Galadriel, you're not stupid but you're not as smart as you think you are, it's enough Galadriel. He'd would rather call to Eru Iluvatar that he doesn't want to be immortal.

He would let you win he would throw himself into Mount Doom Galadriel.

Go to Valinor for some time Galadriel, find a way that's your job as Lady of Light, and come back in a few years or stay in Valinor forever but leave him alone.

Halbrand wears strength and darkness equally like you. You would smile and laugh as soon as he would throw himself into Mount Doom and that's not right either", said Celeborn and walked away with Haldir and the Galadhrim and Galadriel screamed like a madwoman through Lorien.

"Everyone is replaceable Galadriel.

I would love to have seen her feud with someone else. Machiavelli, because this good versus evil stinks to high heaven.

One would almost think there should be sex more often. One would almost think there should be more political marriages and relationships.

Games for power, politics, leadership, survival, warfare, a power vacuum.

I'd like to see role-reversed stories, I would like to see stories.

Yes, he committed terrible deeds yes a good man can fall and he was a good man for over thousand years before he fell in the 1 Age.

In another world Halbrand would be the greatest goldsmith, jewel designer, ring maker, successful businessman. In another world where there is no Dunedain, Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, Balrogs or Maiar. In another world he would have been happily married long ago. In another world he would have loving and supporting parents and siblings.

Men tend to go head to head in war. Men can be deeply romantic. Men tend to butt heads like bulls.

Women tend to be the snake. The woman tends to pour poison into wine. In this world, sex is practically non-existent, very sad.

There is no such thing as sex on a throne or bastards, illegitimate children in our world", said Haldir.

Celebrian, Celeborn and the Galadhrim nodded and Galadriel didn't say a word and grabbed wine.

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