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mazzystar24 · 10 hours
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Asking this under anon bc i don’t wanna get any backlash in my inbox lmao
but to start this off: i love oliver stark, and i am so appreciative of how important he views this storyline and the representation it provides
however
i am going to be very disappointed in him if we get through the next few episodes, and it becomes clear that they aren’t going to further develop buddie anymore. he has always been so careful and cautious when it comes to implying things in interviews/press stuff, but lately with this resurgence in his response to fandom interest with buddie (liking fanart, reposting it, talking openly about buddie in interviews, confirming things like buck thinking eddie was attractive, etc.) if they don’t go that route, it will honestly severely hurt me.
i have very mixed feelings about what is and isn’t “queerbaiting” (most of my friends would say i tend to not believe that it’s a thing, and to an extent i agree) but there are certain situations in which something does blatantly feel like baiting… to me this is one of those situations.
with both lou and edy still being around, as well as ryan’s sudden stint in pr jail, the fandom’s obsession w lou/tommy, and tim minear’s seeming interest in complying with fan-service… it’s hard to remain optimistic that they will actually give us buddie. the past two weeks have given me whiplash as a buddie fan and i am getting tired of the show using our desperation and love for this ship as a marketing tactic when they have no intention of going there (tim minear himself saying things like “i don’t like to plan endgame relationships” or “there are no plans for buddie at the moment”).
that is why the media’s sudden obsession with asking about buddie, as well as oliver’s willingness to interact with buddie content online combined with the constant flow from the set of things not going in the direction of buddie… it feels very intentional to drag us in. and if oliver is participating in that, then i am going to be very disappointed and hurt by that. he used to care so much about not getting our hopes up, but lately it feels like that isn’t the case anymore, and that getting our hopes up is their way if getting us to continue watching the show because they know that people will stop watching after having to watch years of buildup and (at times admittedly) roment subtext between them just for all of that to be completely retconned and them to say “no-homo, bro” in favor of a character/ship that came out of nowhere and has had no development.
obviously, i don’t blame os for the storyline- he’s not a writer, he doesn’t get to dictate what does or doesn’t happen. But he is the one getting all of the media attention, and using that to shine a spotlight on buddie when (if) he knows that buddie isn’t happening? it feels very icky to me and i really don’t want to have a reason to dislike him.
unfortunately it’s seeming more and more like a possibility each day as we get inundated with bts info that doesn’t bode well for us at all.
I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with you anon sorry😭🫶
If buddie doesn’t go canon/ they don’t show they’re heading in that direction in the next few episodes, I still would not blame Oliver at ALL for his recent more openness about buddie
(Idk how familiar you are with me and if you are you’ll know this but if you’re not lemme clarify I use bulletpoints a lot but not to be curt or rude I just like breaking things into chunks🫡)
1. He has made sure to constantly clarify that he doesn’t know how things are gonna go and he has no control over things- i mean EVERY time he spoke about buddie
2. He’s also a fan of the show guys, yes yes he’s an actor and it has different implications I agree 100% but also if he’s choosing to ship his character or enjoy fan work that’s his prerogative and sure he can lurk privately like he has in the past but also he probably knows that implications aside fans who make that work will be ecstatic to see him actually liking the stuff
3. The man legit said he deleted social media at one point cos he didn’t wanna like or share stuff that’d accidentally give people false hope for buddie or bi Buck but he has silently agreed for years and he hated not being able to confirm bi buck till now
4. He’s been a HUGE advocate for us both on the buddie front and bi buck front and that deserves recognition
5. As you said there is a LOT of bucktommy love rn which is great and all but may draw focus away from buddie, if Oliver is intentionally trying to get buddie fans to keep going it could genuinely just to show that buddie fans are still aiming for buddie endgame and that they still make up a huge portion of the fandom
6. Writing is CONSTANTLY in progress on 911 so again buddie fans being more vocal and abc and writers seeing such positive responses to him so much as interacting with buddie posts or answering buddie questions give them a gauge of audience’s wants (granted Tim has stated it’s not a HUGE factor for him) and also keep in mind s8 is still in the books so even proposals of storylines may be in the talks rn
7. When he talks he is VERY careful about his words and is very well spoken on the topic like yes there have been more stuff we can read into and be optimistic about but you can tell that he in no way is saying specific things to bait people, when talking about existing buddie things he talks about HIS interpretation and uses lots of maybes and might’ve beens and I see how that could be and when he talks about future buddie he talks about being open to it talks about what he’d want from it and he talks about not having control or knowledge of it happening
So yeah he has done/said things that I absolutely think warrant optimism (I made a whole post about it) but if it doesn’t pan out that optimism should a- still be there b- not turn into blame for him
Okay now Oliver aside- the questions being asked about buddie and all the buddie promotions I would be side eyeing the higher ups for if it’s for nothing because yes all the articles and stuff are stuff being pre-approved by abc and the people higher up than cast members or the journalists but I would also keep in mind that s8 is still in the works so hope is not lost even if s7 isn’t what we hoped for because keep in mind we had only 10 eps to work with too
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I don't know who needs to read this, but people who are pro Buck and Tommy having a healthy relationship with good representation on screen, whether it goes the distance or not, are not automatically against Eddie having a coming out arc.
Like guys chill the fuck out.
I would argue that 7x05 had too many storylines and felt rushed. I'd honestly rather have fewer stories an Episode and each is given proper time (so they don't skip over shit like Buck and Eddie talking post basket ball, or Chim and Buck talking post punch, or Bobby and Athena talking post ship disaster etc). They actually showed the Karen and Hen talks after the Eva storylines and that's so important and good.
Tommy isn't getting screen time without a main with him so stop pretending he is. He's a background character who is currently there to prop up other people's storylines. It's unlikely he will ever be a main as they already have 7 of them. Can you think if you've ever seen a Karen or a Ravi or a Lucy or a Taylor storyline that wasn't there to really be about one of the mains? No.
I am literally seeing BuckTommy enjoyers having to fucking preface their posts with the fact they obviously ship buddie too just so they don't get abused. It's genuinely disgusting that people are more fixated on their specific (and I would defo class it as fetishistic at this point with the obsession some people have with buddie) ship that they would actively damage other people's enjoyment of the show.
This accusation that people don't care bout buddie anymore because Tommy has kissed Buck and Tommy is white is fucking insane. This fandom regularly accuses anyone who says good things about Buck or Bobby of being racist. Maybe, and hear me out, people are happy that they are getting some bi representation? People who have been pro buddie since 2x01 are getting sent hate because they are happy that a character has come out, despite never turning against buddie.
It's literally normal to be watching a show and be like "yes, I want characters X & Y to end up together but currently they aren't and that's not an issue for me". It's a fictional show.
I want Eddie to get a coming out story line and I would not be upset if it didn't revolve around Buck because 1. Eddie is his own person, and 2. I KNOW that if it did revolve around Buck, you guys would immidiately say it's worthless because it's not an Eddie story but actually a story about the "white boy". Like you literally cannot have it both ways.
You can't beg for coming out story lines and then say "wait that's the wrong person they're kissing." It's a coming out story line. It's literally a gateway to a whole new world of stories in the show.
Chill out, go outside, maybe try to enjoy the show you claim to love instead of shitting on it, the actors and the other fans
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skarkkk · 22 days
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I can't stop thinking about 911 ep4 and I need to freak out. So I'm going to freak out here so that other people freak out too, because my god, that ep is perfect.
First point: Bi Buck
My happiness to finally have this, to have Buck truly be part of the Canon community is limitless. Like, can you imagine how important this representation is to people in real life? A man in his 30s, a "macho" firefighter who until then had only had relationships with women, discovering that he can like guys, that he liked kissing a man. I can literally imagine how Buck might feel about this and the whole coming out and accepting yourself part. Because he is an ally and he is an incredible man, but imagine living with parents like that, growing up not knowing that part of yourself and that whole "this is not a phase, this is who I am" part and him accepting that. Because Buck has always been someone more sensitive to his own emotions and I hope this is portrayed in his self-discovery and, God, I need him to finally be happy being who he is. Being Buck. I want him talking to the team and realizing that he doesn't need acceptance from other people (the world) when he has their real family. I want Maddie's reaction because since season 2 she had already told us that Buck wasn't straight (even if they were jokes). I want everything Buck deserves to truly feel good and happy.
Second point: Buddie
I want them, I need them. But not this season. I think people think so much about finally having them together that sometimes they don't really think about how (me, for example, in my outbursts). But Buddie needs to be developed calmly and even more carefully. Because it's not just about friends to lovers, there's a whole background. It's not just them getting together because, imagine finding out you like guys too, then you realize you're in love with your best friend and how do you deal with that when everything is so new?
I want them to be canon more than anything, I need it and I'll probably die if it really happens. Buddie had a long development process, from the beginning of their friendship until this season. Because they are best friends and even went through the divorce phase. They raise a child together, Buck is Chris's father and their jealousy towards each other was clear. The worry, the care, the protection, the anger, the affection, they felt so much and I think a rushed start to their romantic relationship would ruin everything because they really need to feel it. That emotion of "I love him and I won't hurt him again", because these boys are a disaster. I think the process of them going from best friends to lovers will be confusing, especially because Buck would probably be terrified at the idea of being in love with his best friend and ruining everything between them again (the process) and Eddie wouldn't know how to deal with the his first bi crush being the person he cares about most (after Chris). Like, I need them, but not this season. I want them next time, I want their relationship to be built with sensitivity and not with loose ends. Not in the process of their self-discovery, because while I can imagine how sweet it would be for them to have all their first times (minus Buck's first bi kiss, because we have Tommy) together, I can imagine how wrong it could go. Like, I don't know, buddies have always been full of emotions and intense scenes and I want that in their relationship.
Another point about Buddie is that I want it to happen, yes, but my priority is Buck and Eddie's happiness, even if that means they don't stay together, you know. I would cry, a lot, and live on fanfics, but I don't want something forced between them, because I love how everything always seems spontaneous in their friendship and I want a romantic relationship like that, you know.
Third point: Tommy
I love this man. Like, I wasn't the biggest fan in eps begins, but I never hated him. I've loved the actor since I met him in SWAT and I love that he (and Olives, obv) are willing to play LGBT characters. The point itself is that I want Tommy to gain focus too, both as a member of the 118 family and as Buck's love interest.
I have theories and I've read theories (in fics) about why he was that way in eps begins and I can understand. I don't remember exactly what happened because my memory is terrible, but think about it. He, like Eddie, was part of the army (and we love gay stories between soldiers but we know how they can be in real life), and was under the release of a captain who had prejudices, yes. We don't know about his past, his family (at least I don't, besides fanfics) so the probabilities of why he was repressed and followed the old captain's orders are several. The one that holds me the most is fear and possibly internalized homophobia. In the army, we imagine people who don't break and who can handle whatever comes at them, and speaking of men in the armies, they are not seen as sensitive (stereotypes), and this is how the community tends to be seen by homophobes and the like. Now imagine a bi guy coming out of the closet and imagine the reaction. Another point is the old captain and how Tommy seems to want to be part of the 118 family (now), so I can imagine that he repressed himself to be part of the old "family" (not that I see them as family, because they weren't).
Talking about him now, I love how sweet this man seems to be. In the sense of understanding, we saw that he has that sarcastic and smart-ass bone that the whole team has (I love the scene of them going after Bathena). And the fact that he really worried about Buck and the possibility of ruining their friendship (Buck and Eddie), the kindness of the kiss (my god, I can't forget that kiss). I can really imagine Tommy being a guy who would understand Buck's discovery process, who wouldn't react badly to being the first man, the experiment (as I've read in fics). I think he would understand that Buck really has feelings for him (because we can't deny that the sparkle in Buck's eyes is there when he looks at Tommy) and that he's willing to really try something with a man even if he's scared (I hope, amen ). I think Tommy is the right guy to be Buck's first. And he knows 118 (to a point) and they're friendly, Eddie likes him, Chris likes him, and Chris and Eddie have strong opinions about people (the team too, of course, but talking about family Buddie, romantic or not between Eddie and Buck ). So Tommy already has the approval of the people most important to Buck, this already proves that he is a good person.
I want more of Tommy (god, I love this man)
Fourth point: Tuck (what's the name of their ship???)
I want to see a stable, healthy relationship between Buck and Tommy. I loved their chemistry, their kiss. And like I said, Tommy seems like the right guy for Buck's first times with a man. I think their relationship would be really cute to watch, both as a couple and in the process of developing it. Buck doesn't have a very good history with encounters, because he always tends to get hurt from them. I want it not to be like that with Tommy, I want them both to feel comfortable and to be really happy with each other. (I would love a Karen/Hen style scene in the ep where they get together for the first time).
I wouldn't mind at all if they were endgame (of course, again, I'd cry for Buddie, but I'd love it). I wonder if Buck will take him as his date to Maddie's wedding (because that would be a confirmation of their relationship, you know). I keep imagining so many possibilities for meetings and scenes between the two of them (as long as both actors feel comfortable, of course. Again, I love them.)
Now, if it's not endgame, there has to be an amicable ending, one that doesn't hurt either of them and they remain friends. Because I think it would be really sweet to see their friendships continue. The most important thing if the breakup happens (... I really hope not, despite Buddie) and that they don't put a woman as Buck's date next time and simply forget about his sexuality, treat it as just another open thing, he knows.
In short, I need more of them because I can't stop thinking about them
Fifth point: ep5
I have a lot of thoughts about what we've received so far.
First, the meeting. I think people are dismissive of Buck's reaction to both Eddie arriving and "it's my first date with a guy" because, firstly, I think it's important for Buck to feel comfortable. Imagine being so nervous about not doing shit, wanting to feel comfortable and good about being on a date with a man you like romantically and then your best friend (who thinks you're straight) walks up with his girlfriend. I hope Tommy understands that Buck didn't mean to treat him disrespectfully or that he didn't want the date, because we know that's not what it's about. I hope there's another date, one where Buck feels comfortable relaxing without the pressure of being with people you know because he's still discovering himself, and he needs to feel comfortable for that to happen without him feeling bad about it. , he knows.
Second, the strangulation. I love that Buck gets hurt anyway, but what gets me the most is Tommy's reaction. Because he wasn't there the other times (the plane, the bread, Lola, the truck, the tsunami, the shooter, the post-Daniel fire, the lightning. And those are the times I remember he almost died) when Buck almost died (and in the case of lightning, he died) or got hurt and I want to see how he will feel about the person he likes (because love still seems too early, again, I want it to be treated with sensitivity, not rush) getting hurt . I want to see him going after Buck and being careful and having a sincere conversation about the first date (we don't know how long it took from the date to the call) and feelings, and then I want a kiss and Tommy taking care of Buck (because this man doesn't know how to take care of himself).
I think that's it, actually. Of course, I still want to freak out a lot more.
Another point not related to Buck is Ravi. I loved that he was back (even if just a little). First, I loved his curls. Second, I loved his interaction with Buck and Eddie and him having no idea what's going on. I really want Ravi to be a main character, I want focus on him and his story. Like, I can only imagine what it's like to live your childhood with cancer and then become a firefighter and his trauma with the pier (traumas don't end that easily). Anyway, I want to focus on Ravi and more of him with Chimney (I love the brothers' relationship). I also want him having a romantic interest in someone (May or Albert, please) and him being pan (even more unlikely, but I can dream.
And I love the headcanon that Ravi thought Buddie were divorced, or that they were a couple so I want to see his reaction to Buck with Tommy.
Bonus: I don't remember the script exactly, but there's also the apparent scene where Eddie tells Buck to call Tommy (I think). So two points, Tommy wasn't an idiot because then Eddie wouldn't tell Buck to call him. And Eddie supports the two of them - if you take it in the sense that Eddie is supporting knowing that it was a romantic date, not a guy date. Or encouraging a friend to make peace with another.
And I'm pan, and probably ace, and probably bi gender too, so I know a little about the community, in case anyone thinks I'm just another straight guy talking without having any idea what he's saying, you know.
And that. For now.
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wolfmadefromash · 18 days
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Thought on 7x05
I've seen a mixed response for the episode last night, things from the shared photos not playing out how many hoped or wanted. There was the photo of Eddie and Marisol sitting at the table at the end of the row from Tommy and Buck, making it really look like he was there for more of their date than he was. The photos we got of Buck and Eddie the gym and in Buck's apartment, the expectation was different there too.
I didn't think for one second that there was a chance for there to be a Buddie kiss in the episode, I can understand were people were coming from with that though. The theory of Eddie being jealous when he finds about about the date and that has him realizing he has feelings for Buck makes sense. But I prefer the way it played out, even if I do still very much ship Buddie.
The date was just... oh man so bad, Buck was a disaster but it also makes sense. This is new for him, he doesn't exactly understand his role or how he should act. It hasn't caught up to him really that it doesn't have to be any different than dating a women, just relax and talk and enjoy the company. His biggest mistake was acting the way he did when Eddie showed up, I get that he's not out to anyone yet but Eddie was there with his girlfriend and just happy to see his too friends hanging out. Buck talking about getting chicks and calling Eddie bro was a bigger red flag than if he were to have been waving the literal bi flag in Eddie face. I mean... come on dude, you've literally never once uttered the word chicks and you haven't been one for bar hopping and picking up randoms since before you even met Eddie. That's Buck 1.0 behavior and Eddie doesn't know that Buck. He's stressed and he panicked, so I get it but... sir... no. Tommy bailing on the rest of the night, while is sucks that that's how Buck "first date with a dude" (pro tip Ev, maybe don't call your date dude) ended, I understand Tommy's side. He was kind about, looked like he felt bad. I do with that he explained that is was more him not wanting Buck to feel pressured to make steps before he was ready, rather then telling him at the end of the episode when they meet for coffee.
I was almost heartbroken for Hen and Karen, finding out that the little girl they were supposed to foster was going to stay with her grandmother. I was so excited to see them welcoming in a baby girl after the struggles they day with fertility and having to let go of Nia (truly a crime because that little girl was so cute and I miss her). I love that they're giving Mara this chance to find peace with a new family after what that poor girl went through. I know some aren't happy with Karen's reaction over Denny getting hurt, especially when Denny was standing up for Mara himself telling them she didn't mean it. But Karen's first priority as a mother is her own child, and while the intent is for Mara to fit that role eventually, she's still new and now she's harmed her son. In that moment, it didn't matter that Mara clearly went through something traumatic in her life and that she needed time and care. He son was hurt and Karen was going to do what she needed to keep him safe. I am glad that they made the extra effort to learn more about Mara's situation, kind of feels like the sort of thing they should have been told before but they weren't. Mara's story will be complex and heartbreaking I'm sure, but I do hope that she is here to stay because that little girl deserves to feel safe and protected and loved.
I loved Buck's coming out to Maddie, literally accidentally just because he kind of got carried away with the story, saying "he left me stand outside the restaurant" after having been very careful to be as vague as possible when talking about the date. The little slip of the pronoun of course didn't go unnoticed by Maddie and she zeros right in on it. Buck not understanding why he acted the way he did, still under the assumption that his shouldn't have mattered who he was with, because he's an ally. Except, you can be an ally then find that you're more than that and it can still be confusing because its new. Buck lying to Eddie about what he and Tommy were actually doing doesn't make him less of an ally or make him any less bisexual. It was unexpected to see Eddie, he wasn't out to anyone yet, he was even resistant to come out to Maddie but he need to talk to someone about how he acted. So Maddie's right, him being on a date with a guy probably has everything to do with him lying to Eddie and really hurting Tommy in the process. Maddie's reaction to Buck saying "sure I'll check out a hot guys ass, but that's normal"... she's amazing for just sort of letting it go and mildly agreeing. "It's not abnormal" but not exactly normal either. Most straight men are out here checking out a hot guys ass. They might look and compare or something but it's not really that they're checking it out and they're certainly not acknowledging that the guy is hot. I love Buck's coming out journey so far, he's a gem.
Eddie's Catholic Guilt... is amazing. His reaction to Marisol almost being a nun feels like a bit much to me, almost like he's repressing something... Also, dude why are you asking her to move in with you??? Thank god she didn't have plans to sell her house so she can go back there, honestly the fact that she wasn't selling the house was a sign that the move or relationship wasn't going to last. With the news that Marisol was almost a nun, thought I'd seen it floating around for a few week not knowing where that came from, it's given me a theory for the break-up; not even a unique theory because I think we're all thinking the same thing. Marisol obviously still has a connection to her faith, she's kept things from her time doing... whatever it is nuns do to be come nuns. She'd likely a devout Catholic and we know how most (if not all) feel about the LGBTQIA+ community. I'm thinking that Tommy and Buck are talked about in some capacity and she learns that they're dating, or she sees them at the Madney wedding. She shares her thoughts with Eddie, maybe not as ugly as they could be because lets let us have some peace from that in one area of our life, and he'd appalled. Because Tommy's he's friend and he's great and Buck's his best friend and has been helping him raise Christopher for years now. Who they're dating doesn't change how great they are, Eddie's not going to just turn his back on his friends. So they break up because Marisol sucks. The only reason I don't fully believe it'll happen this way is because of the actresses current reputation and her apparent views towards the LGBTQIA+ community. But... art imitates life and all that...
Also, love the idea of Demi Eddie and it feels like it really fits.
Eddie being more hung up or surprised by the fact that Tommy's gay, rather then his best friend who's he's know for like 6 years now was just on a date with a man is amazing to me. For one, it feed into this head canon that everyone kind of already knew. And two, it just reaffirms that to Eddie it doesn't matter. Buck is Buck, Eddie will be there for him no matter what. I did was some level of something more there, some sort of tension or hurt between the two. A touch of the divorce era without it being full blown no contact for 2 episodes. I wanted Eddie coming into the loft after having found out Buck and Tommy were on a date from someone that wasn't Buck. Maybe Marisol saying something about thinking they were crashing their date. I wanted Eddie asking Buck why he thought he couldn't trust him with this, why he felt like he couldn't open up to him, why he doubted that he would support him. Throw in a call back to season 5 when Buck broke down Eddie's bedroom door to get to him when he was crying on the floor, arguably Eddie's most vulnerable moment. The kind of moment you share with someone and know you can be 100% you with them. But the whole coming out scene was very lovely and I am happy that Buck experience so far with the people he's told has been incredibly positive. I know this isn't how it is for far too many.
I loved the little coffee date(?) with Buck and Tommy. I love that is was Eddie who encouraged Buck to call Tommy and the Buck is really willing to take this leap into the unknown. Everything about this scene is so soft and sweet, Buck is very clearly infatuated with Tommy at the very least, and Tommy is so gentle and kind. I don't know that there would be a better first boyfriend for Buck than Tommy. Again, I still very much ship Buddie, but there is something about Buck and Tommy that I love.
As much as I want Eddie and Buck together, I am a bit of a realist or more negative thinker lol I mean I was very much under the impression that Buck would never be canonically Bi even if he always gave vibes that I couldn't begin to explain. It something that I thought "it'd be nice, but it'll never happy. At least there's fan fiction." But here were are, 5 episode into setons 7 on a new network and Buck is kissing boys and dating dudes. It's a big moment, taking a character like Buck who's part of the main cast and allowing him to be queer in any way, it can also be a big risk to take. But ABC and Tim Minear did it, Oliver himself has said that he saw this being a direction for Buck for some time and he was more than open to explore it. Tim Minear has never out right said no to Buddie, at least in recent conversations. Ryan and Oliver haven't said no ever, they've always been noncommittal about the direction of Eddie and Buck's relationship. But more recently... it seems like they're keeping the door open a crack to allow for speculation to run wild. Dropping hints and clues. It seems to me that it's unlikely that they'll give Eddie a queer story arc, seems like too big of a leap for any network like ABC to take at least while they're already exploring one character. I want to say I truly believe that we'll get Buddie eventually, but I really can't put too much hope or faith in that. I will be thrilled if they do, genuinely.
I rambled... it happens. Not often but these last few episodes were a lot to reflect on. I'm loving Buck's story, loving that he's in his 30's and going through this now at a time where people think you should have you're life figured out. I love this because it just makes me feel some much better about my own journey. I'm in my 30's, only in the last year or 2 have I even had any thoughts about my own sexuality really. I'm not a very confident person, I have body image issues, not the most out going and I don't love talking to new people. I haven't given myself the opportunity to really explore. But I have thought recently about how I would feel about a relationship with someone of the same gender and came to the conclusion that I'm not put off by the idea, I'm very much open to it. I haven't figured out a label that feels right yet but I'm fine with no label at all. I just hate the idea of being closed off to something that could be potentially amazing, who a person is should matter more than what they are. Labels can be so restrictive but I understand that is makes some feel secure and feel like they're a part of something bigger.
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carolinahope · 25 days
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This episode wasn't what I expected and I enjoyed it for the most part.
The Bachelor cold open was super awkward but I loved Maddie, Chim and Josh fangirling about the show. And the shots of Eddie and Buck, precious.
The case with the lady and her son was heartbreaking. And it was interesting what Harry brought up, how Athena acts as a cop even when she should be a mother. Though I'm glad she had Harry's back, ultimately. (And I wasn't aware it was a different actor, so nice soap opera dig there)
Watching Buck being jealous and hurt about the fast friendship between Eddie and Tommy was heartbreaking. And that scene where Eddie asked him to watch Chris while he was going out with Tommy - that was straight out of a fan fiction. I'm pretty sure I read at least fifteen stories with that same scene.
Thought Ravi's Who's Tommy? was my favourite part of it all. Ravi, me beloved. And it was so great to see Buck and Eddie still be so in sync on the job, despite being out of sync off of it.
Loved all the Maddie and Buck scenes. They are such a unit and there for each other. And she can read him so well and be frank but gentle. Sibling goals, right there.
The last scene with Tommy and Buck was a little surprising in the sense that I never once read Buck's behavior as being directed at Tommy. So that came out of the left field. But I don't mind it, as long as Tim was telling the truth and we won't see much of Tommy anymore. I like Lou but I don't care about Tommy one way or the other.
What I'm curious about is Eddie's reaction to this development. Because Buck didn't really seemed surprised so I want to know how it will be played. If it was his first kiss with a man or if he knew before that he was queer but it just never came up. I'm good either way.
I really hope this is not the end but just the next step in Buddie becoming what we know they are - husbands. Family. Soulmates.
Because giving us queer Buck and then just do like Tuxedo Mask and fuck off would be worse than the shit Fox was pulling in the last two seasons.
But we are getting at least another season so I am willing to wait. I now have more hope. And I cannot wait for Buck and Eddie to talk. And to see Eddie's reaction and how he will take Buck dating men and women now. Because while petty Eddie is on thin ice with me, jealous Eddie clears my skin and waters my crops. But I'm willing to be patient and have Buck deal with this situation before we get anywhere with Eddie.
But they better give me my Buddie hug. That one is way , way overdue.
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ganseybois · 21 days
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OMG I GET TO PROMPT YOU
Buck/Tommy are happy and have been dating, and Tommy's the one that tells Buck he can't give Buck what he wants
And he also tells him (kindly and sweetly) that Buck already has what he wants and has had it for years
AND MAYBE INCLUDE THAT RESOLUTION WITH A BUDDIE SCENE AT THE END? PLEASE?
HELLO LOVE here you go :) send me a prompt here!
“I don’t understand,” Buck says softly, trying very, very hard not to cry. “I thought…I thought I was doing everything right this time.” He laughs, a pitiful, horrible thing–right Buckley, like you can do anything right. 
“Hey,” Tommy places a hand on his - they’re in the loft, and Tommy has just broken up with him. “Buck, really, it’s nothing that you did. Not really. I just don’t think it’s going to work out for us.”
“But why?” he presses. “We’ve been okay. We haven’t even fought.”
Tommy sighs, looking at Buck so kindly, which makes this a million times worse. “I can’t give you what you want.”
“That’s not true!” he exclaims. “It’s not. I really like you, Tommy, this, we can fix this, I can fix this.” 
“Evan, hey, stop.” Tommy touches the side of his face. He is being so gentle with him, so fucking gentle, that Buck does, in fact, start to cry. “This isn’t on you at all. It’s not on either of us, not really. I just...am not the right guy for you, that’s all.”
Buck shakes his head. “Seems like no one ever is.”
Tommy smiles that sweet smile that he has, and looks at Buck with kindness, and true sincerity, and that makes Buck feel a thousand times worse. “Evan, the things you want? Family? Security? Love? It’s all right in front of you. You just can’t see it.” He leans back. “But don’t worry, because neither can the other guy.”
“Other–what?” Buck wipes his eyes. “What are you talking about?”
Tommy sighs, and shakes his head. “Eddie, I’m talking about Eddie.”
Panic rises in his chest, and he shakes his head. His feelings about Eddie are a tangled, complicated thing, and he has been very careful with them throughout the years. “Tommy no, I-I told you, there’s nothing going on. I..we’re just friends.”
“Right,” Tommy is still smiling, despite it all. “I know there’s nothing going on. I know you’re just friends. But you shouldn’t be. The two of you keep circling each other, and…as much as I like you Evan, I also deserve better.”
Hurt, Buck looks away, guilt rising easily in his chest. “I’m sorry.” he mumbles. 
“Don’t be, really. We can’t help who we love.” Tommy sighs. “But we can at least try and be happy.” He leans forward and kisses Buck on the cheek. “So go be happy, Evan.”
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“Buck?” Eddie rubs his eye as Buck practically stampedes through his home. It’s late, it’s very late, Eddie’s hair is a mess, he’s in his sweatpants and a white tank top, and the house is dark. He was deeply asleep, but Buck kept calling until he woke up. “Everything okay?” he asks. “What happened?”
Buck nods, even though his heart is beating a million miles a second. “Can we talk in your room? I don’t want to wake Chris.”
“Sure, come on,” Eddie pats Buck on the back, closing the bedroom door when they make it in. 
When the door is closed, Buck rounds on him before Eddie can turn the light on or try and sit on the bed. “Why did you break up with Marisol?” he asks. 
Eddie seems genuinely surprised by the question, frowning as he walks over to the bedside table. He flicks on the lamp and sits on the bed. “I told you already, it just wasn’t right. We didn’t fit.”
“Why didn’t you fit?” Buck stands right in front of him, so Eddie has to look up at him. Eddie’s eyes flash with something Buck can’t name. 
“What’s wrong with you?” Eddie asks, his eyes flittering over Buck’s expression, like he’s not sure where to look. 
“Why didn’t you fit?”
“I don’t know, man, I figure if I have to try so hard then it’s not really worth my time, right?” his eyes dance over Buck’s lips, and then Eddie quickly looks away, down at his knees. “You drove all the way here to ask me that?”
Buck sits next to Eddie on the bed. 
His feelings for Eddie are strange - they always have been. He’s always been careful to never let it cross the line, no matter how much he wanted to. 
But he tests the waters, he puts a hand on Eddie’s knee. 
Eddie tenses, but doesn’t push his hand away. Doesn’t stop him, here in the intimate light of Eddie’s bedroom. 
“Tommy broke up with me.” Buck says softly. “Because he thinks he wasn’t the right fit for me.”
“I’m sorry,” Eddie replies immediately, looking over at him - he can see Eddie means it, too. Eddie wants him to be happy. “I know how much you wanted it to work.” 
Buck takes his hand back, but he’s looking at Eddie intently. “Haven’t you ever wondered why neither of us can seem to find something that works? Doesn’t it bother you?”
“I don’t know,” Eddie shrugs. “It could be worse. I have you and Chris, I don’t really need anything else. I’d rather be alone from now on then try and be something I’m not.”
Something catches in Buck’s throat. “You know…I love you for who you are, Eddie.”
“I know,” Eddie punches his knee tenderly. “I love you too.”
“No, I mean, I know, but no.” he sighs, irritated with himself. Shakily, he puts a hand on Eddie’s face, turning it again so that Eddie can look at him. “I mean, I love you for who you are, Eddie.” When he sees Eddie’s eyes go wide, he continues swiftly, knowing that if he doesn’t spill it out all at once, it’s all over. He has to take his chance, and if it bites him in the ass, he will stay Eddie’s friend because having this is better than having nothing at all. But he can’t hold it in any longer. “I love you, I am in love with you, and I have been for years - and I chalked it up to the fact that this is how best friends are, but…I’m so tired, Eddie. I don’t want to perform anymore either.” He can’t help it, he runs a thumb along Eddie’s cheekbone. “I’m sorry if this ruins everything but-”
Eddie kisses him. 
It’s a tired, gentle kiss, Eddie is both in shock and half asleep, but his lips are soft and tender, and his hand reaches to cup Buck’s face as well. It’s over too soon, but when Eddie pulls back, he takes a moment to kiss each of Buck’s cheek, and then his nose, and then another small peck on his lips. Buck feels more affection in those movements than he ever has in his life. 
Buck sighs, eyes still shut, afraid to open them and find this is a dream. “Everyone keeps kissing me when I’m talking. I guess I should take the hint.”
“Well, hopefully, I’ll be the only one kissing you to shut you up moving forward.” Eddie laughs softly, and Buck opens his eyes – Eddie is staring at him with love. A beautiful smile on that stupidly handsome face. “Actually, don’t count on it. I like hearing you speak.” He runs a thumb along Buck’s bottom lip. “Stay the night?” he asks softly. “We can talk some more.”
Buck tucks his face by Eddie’s neck, deliriously happy. “I’ll stay every night, forever, Eddie, if you’ll have me.”
“Sure you won’t get bored of me?” Eddie kisses the top of his head. 
“Impossible.”
Eddie chuckles, leaning back so Buck can look at him. “Come on, I have clothes for you. You’ve upgraded from the couch to the bed, Buck.”
It’s that, that makes Buck’s eyes fill with tears again, as he leans in to kiss Eddie again, and again, and again…
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loveyourownsmiilee · 15 days
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Hi JuJu! I hope you had a lovely Friday. I’m starting to worry about this fandom and their lack of interest in buddie at this moment. So many people on x and tumblr have jumped on this bucktommy train and sure it’s shiny and new and cute but why are they so quick to throw away years of development and such beautiful partnership for this? I’m sad and I hope you are still on the buddie train my dear! Enjoy the weekend 🥰
Hello love!! I’ve truly been off tumblr since Thursday, only popping in to post something and getting right off. Here’s the thing and I’ve seen it time and time and time again. Any time there’s a new love interest, a majority of the fans automatically jump onto that pairing bc it does seem like the newness of it is attention grabbing and they are into the new possibilities that may arise. I’ve always been a Buddie shipper, and I always will be. I don’t enjoy the boys with anyone else nor have I ever but that’s just my thoughts on it. And I don’t think Tommy or any previous partner really can hold a candle to everything we’ve seen with Buck and Eddie.
Now I personally don’t understand how people are so quick to jump from Buddie to Buck with Tommy but I know multishippers exist and they are entitled to their opinions very much how I am entitled to mine. There’s nothing wrong with that. I personally can’t see how Tommy is supposed to be anything other than a plot device, someone for right now while Buck gets more comfortable with this part of himself. I also can say that we’ve seen similar patterns with Tommy and Buck that we’ve seen with all previous partners Buck has had. And if some people want to overlook that bc he’s a man and this is a new avenue for Buck and the show, then that’s also fine. I however won’t because it’s the same pattern we’ve seen many times by now. And I stand by Buck being confused with everything including his feelings and therefore some wires have been crossed and his feelings are somewhat misplaced. Now I’m not saying he’s not into Tommy. No all I’m saying is when you watch all the scenes and really pay attention, there’s an underlying theme that’s a bit jarring and that is Eddie. He’s always talking about him, bringing him up, focusing on him. So if we’re all meant to think Eddie’s not of importance, then they shouldn’t be using him as frequently as they have with Buck’s storyline.
And yes Buck being bisexual is its own thing aside from Eddie/Buddie. And yes he should explore and figure things out as he is. I’m not saying that’s wrong or whatever. I personally don’t care for him and Tommy, I don’t understand how he will ever mirror what he and Eddie have together. And that’s why I’m not worried bc the story is just beginning and we still have to eventually get to Eddie’s sexuality storyline. And they’ve done great work planting the seeds for that in the last episode. And I would love for when that time comes, Eddie’s sexuality to be its own thing too without the whole Buck/Buddie aspect taking the spotlight away from that. So I know eventually it’ll all come together and I just can’t see how Buck and Eddie aren’t going to be endgame. As long as the two of them are breathing, there’s a chance and I’d say that this season has actually proved that chance may be sooner than we think. Not possibly this season but definitely setting things to make it happen next!
So I guess what I’m trying to say is if there are people who are enjoying Buck and Tommy together, then good for them. I really don’t want or need to say anything negative because everyone enjoys the show in their own way. And if there are people who don’t like them together and want Buddie together, then I hope they’re a bit more patient because it will eventually be worth it in the end. I’m one of those people who is just going to patiently wait until both their storylines unfold and we eventually get to see our boys have their happy ever after. Just don’t give up on the boys because they’ve literally been written as a slow burn friends to lovers. And they’re so fucking soulmate shaped. And that’s all I’ll say on this matter.
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Anti Bucktommy
Eddie deserves better than that raggedy storyline he was handed.
Don't read below the cut if you ship bucktommy because this is an ANTI-BUCKTOMMY ZONE!
Full Disclosure: Eddie is my favorite character and IMO the way he was charcterized in 7x4 was horrifically horrible.
It's been a few hours since the episode aired and I believe I'm finally at a place where I can articulate how damn angry I am about the way EDDIE DIAZ was treated throughout the episode.
Before it aired, I was still on the fence regarding if I should watch live because I didn't want Buck and Eddie to argue/fight but I sure as hell didn't want either of them to get injured. I really tried to keep an open mind about Buck’s storyline but I'm not sure how to process the fact that they made Eddie out to be the villain for the third time. First it was the lawsuit, then it was Buck's coma dream where he was charcterized as "Angry" and now this. He was the one injured but Tommy had to tell Buck to call Eddie and he was just like "ok" when pre-Tommy Buck would have taken Eddie to the hospital and stayed with him until he was better. But it appears everyone forgot how Buck dropped everything to take care of Eddie and Chris after Eddie’s breakdown since Buck finally kissed a guy.
Eddie
So... first things first. Eddie FINALLY ADMITTED HE'S TAKEN but when did that happen because Marisol has been on screen for like 5.098 seconds in 4 episodes. Second, why didn't Eddie ask her to babysit Chris? I mean if they're in a committed relationship or whatever, then shouldn't he have asked her? That would have made more sense but if he had then he wouldn't have been able to ask Buck to do it. And finally, why was his actions towards Buck made to seem like he was intentionally being mean? The pre-7x4 Eddie Diaz wouldn't have done that because he knows how self-deprecating Buck can be. Reminder he called Buck Evan first and it wasn't like he was trying to put him in his place like Tommy was and will do. Tommy's actions towards Buck didn't show that he even liked him since he was dismissive but this isn't about that, it's about Eddie.
Now, I still can't tell if Eddie's actions were supposed to be funny or WTF but the way they had him acting like he was inconsiderate towards Buck’s feelings was just WRONG! Furthermore making it seem like he was using him and rubbing his nose in it since he had a new friend was NOT OK! FYI, the way everything played out validated some of those Facebook moms' thoughts because they've already posted that they believe Eddie uses Buck to babysit for him so he can go out and have fun 👀.
Additionally, Eddie was shown to be the one Buck’s affection... no fuck that, LOVE was directed towards only for Buck to literally injure him and ACT like he did it because he wanted to be with fucking Tommy Kinard? I call BULLSHIT and at this point I don't like Buck very much right now because of the way he acted in this episode.
Showing Eddie using Buck to babysit Chris and talking at him and ignoring him while he was hanging out with the guy who basically called Buck stupid and unbelievable to his face was just bad writing. Of course there will be those who say, "Let the story play out because it was just one episode" but the audience has been here before waiting for Buck to finally get it and nothing changed except he's dating a man now. None of this was ok and even though Maddie told him don't do it again, that was fine I guess but what in the actual fuck was this raggedy ass storyline? There was a better way to handle this without making Eddie the villian.
If all Tim Minear wanted to do was set Buck up with someone other than Eddie, then he could have picked a better character than Tommy. Also, there's an article that indicates he was planning to bring Lucy back for this storyline and it's ridiculous. She already put her lips on Buck without his permission and Tommy did the same thing and so did Taylor.
At this point, I don't know how to feel about Buck. But I do care about Eddie who was called "Angry" in Buck’s coma dream and who Buck actually fucking physically injured during a basketball game because he's jealous that Eddie was hanging out with Tommy.
I can't support a toxic relationship and that's what I saw happening between Buck and Tommy in 7x4.
IMO, The math ain't mathing and this is... not good storytelling.
#EddieDeservesBetter
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prettyboybuckley · 24 days
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if you’re looking for bucktommy fic inspo, main thing going around my head rn is the thought of some soft bucktommy h/c?? like the way i am so desperate to see just a little bit of buck being fussed over, like not necessarily a big hurt but just him getting hurt on a call or smth and tommy showing him how much he actually does care about him because buck deserves to be fussed over a bit yk
also would not object to some more bucktommy sex bc your last fic was golden 💖
hiii
Oh yeah I can totally imagine that, I feel like Tommy would be super sweet and gentle with him if Buck got hurt while they're dating. Honestly I think the last time Buck dated someone who would fuss over him a bit was Ali, and she left before his leg was healed. Natalia mostly cared about his near-death experience (and I'd honestly love to think that Tommy is kind of horrified by how casually Buck talks about all his injuries sometimes because we all know that the entire LAFD looks at the 118 like... how do you guys attract so much Bad, like, that's not normal firefighter shit). And Taylor... well, I don't think she's really the fussing kind, she was there after the shooting for a bit and sure she cared about him, but I don't know if she'd go out of her way to take care of him. But Tommy would. (and yeah, we all know Eddie would, but Buck deserves to have that while dating someone, too, and he isn't dating Eddie (yet))
So yeah honestly I really love this idea 🥹
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seek--rest · 6 days
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talk shop tuesday!!! so...so about that firefighter show... 😏😏😏 what are the dynamics you're interested in exploring and what do you feel is drawing you towards the show as a whole? or just ramble about anything you like, open floor for 9-1-1 chatting hehe
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I cannot believe this silly little wee woo unserious gay fire fighter show finally got me.
In no particular order:
I’m irrationally upset that it’s only now being called the gay firefighter show when it’s??? Apparently??? Been CANONICALLY gay since day one? Idk why I’m surprised every fandom continues to be racist as shit because Black lesbians apparently don’t count!!!!
Speaking of: I love Hen. Hen is the character of all time. She is the main to ME, right along with Athena and then Chim. They’re so interesting and fun and complicated and what do you MEAN people demonize them all the time are you kidding!!!
I binge watched the show in a weekend and am all caught up and I’m sorry to say, I simply do not see the vision between the main guys that everyone lost their shit for. I don’t! The chemistry isn’t chemistrying for me!
It probably doesn’t help that I personally think both Buck and Maddie are as annoying as fuck and that both the plot and the characters act as if the world revolves around them sorry I simply do not give a fuck
Athena,,, my love,,, thee most woman. The wigs they put her in are a hate crime but perhaps that’s the only way our televisions could withstand the power of weekly Angela Bassett.
The found fambly of it all got to me I can’t lie. And ACTUAL found family. Not just glorified coworkers people like to pretend are family. Despite the writing being lackluster in terms of Consequences to almost anything, the BOND is there and i see the vision for the Fambly.
I wrote Bobby/Athena because for the first time in my entire time in fandom, I wanted to take them OUT of situations. Let Athena have a honeymoon! She deserves it. Bobby is There too I guess.
Currently writing Chim & Hen in a canon divergence where Maddie doesn’t actually say yes to the proposal. I do not like her character at all but I refuse to belittle her in the same way I’ve seen fandom do to Chim AND Hen in all of 2 days I’ve been here. Not on my watch! She’s gonna have NUANCE even if I personally think Chim deserves better and a happy ending that doesn’t revolve around the whims of someone who needs therapy more than a wedding.
In that same fic I must say I must say!!!! Tommy? Compels me. Idk what it is about him. Buck? He’s there. He’s… a bit of an ass. I know this is an unpopular opinion. I don’t care for him. But I like Tommy and Tommy’s effect on Buck. It makes no damn sense, but it compels me dot jpeg.
Eddie,,,,, I’m so sorry what they’ve done to you.
I hate this dumbass show can’t believe I watched it new episode next week!
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buddiebeginz · 18 days
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I don’t know that episode left me feeling kind of disheartened. It’s not because I expected Buck and Eddie to make out or even have a feelings realization but I think one of my biggest issues is the episode felt a bit rushed and all over the place. This may be because Tim said they’ve been rewriting things close to the eps being completed so maybe that’s why it feels off. But like the coming out scenes felt really rushed. And I’m not saying we needed traditional coming out scenes but I wanted more.
I also feel like Maddie for as observant as she is particularly of Buck would have picked up on his attraction to guys sooner. You expect me to believe she’s been around Eddie and Buck and never thought something else was going on there? She’s the one who called it a boy crush. In general I haven’t really liked any of the scenes with her and Buck in the past two eps. I just feel like she usually listens and is so comforting to him and the vibe of these scenes are coming off more humorous than anything. Like when she told her 14 year old girl story in the previous ep. I like when Maddie and Buck are silly together but I think these scenes are just missing the emotional bump their scenes usually have.
I especially feel like the Buddie loft scene was rushed. This is not just because I ship them this that they mostly talked about Tommy and Marisol and nothing from the previous ep was addressed. I feel like the least they could have done was a line in there to have Buck say this is why I was acting the way I was the other day.
Tbh the first three eps of this season I thought were great but I haven’t been feeling these last two. I’m ecstatic that we have bi Buck now and I’m still hopeful Buddie will happen eventually but I’m not liking how they’re writing their friendship right now.
I really want them to address the distance between them that was brought up in the previous ep and Eddie’s line of “when you meet someone and you just click” and how it was so clear Buck thought of Eddie. Plus even in 701 Eddie was blowing Buck off to spend time with Marisol and then Tommy comes along and he’s all about Tommy. I just don’t like a lot of the writing choices they’re making for Eddie now. Like I have my theories on why he’s acting this way towards Buck but without them actually talking or giving has any clue to how Eddie is feeling it doesn’t matter.
I’m glad Eddie was supportive of Buck coming out and I love that we had another hug but I wanted them to talk and look at each other like we’ve had in the past. Think about the will scene or “there’s no one I trust with my son more”.
I just think Buck telling Eddie he likes guys should have been a bigger deal. I get that they’re trying to normalize coming out as just this regular thing you tell your friends but as a queer person myself it’s also still a huge deal when you finally feel ready to tell people. I just wanted it treated more like the important moment it was. Eddie was just basically like you like guys cool. Go call Tommy. And then gave him a quick hug and left. I also wonder if that brother line was originally in that scene with the hug and they cut it.
Like I said I am still hopeful for Buddie but when they do things like make Buddie so at odds like they were in 704 and then don’t do anything on screen to resolve that it just feels like they don’t care about the ship friendship or otherwise.
I know someone will read this and say I’m just being negative or what am I talking about Buddie had three separate scenes together in this ep clearly they care. I’m thankful for all the Buddie we get but I also want the writers to not just slap them on screen for the hell of it but to really develop their story. A lot of stuff happened in 704 that was just not addressed at all and I feel like never will be. The show doesn’t even let Buck and Eddie talk about the shooting or the will so I’m doubtful they’ll talk about when Buck wanted Eddie’s attention so bad he almost broke his ankle. Which btw it was Eddie’s attention he was after that’s what was happening in the ep and if Tim and the writers intention was something else they did a poor job of executing that.
I guess we’ll see where the rest of the season goes. The wedding ep looks exciting but this ep kind of reminded me I need to rein back in my expectations with 911. I’m still happy and surprised we got bi Buck but even if we don’t get canon Buddie I don’t want Buddie’s relationship to suffer. Like that scene we had in 701 where Buck was talking to Chris about dating and Shannon and Eddie was listening (where they felt like a real little family) just feels like a whole different season to me.
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littlerosetrove · 20 days
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I haven't been seeing it on my dash thankfully, but I know it's out there, so let me say this:
If you're loving Buck/Tommy (like I am), that's okay! If you're neutral on Buck/Tommy, that's okay! If you simply don't care for Buck/Tommy, that's okay!
Literally, feel how you feel about them. BUT don't go into anyone's inbox that you know has a differing opinion than you, and complain that they don't feel the same as you, okay? If you're someone who doesn't like the pairing, for goodness sake, don't dump that thought/negativity into someone's inbox that you know is enjoying the pairing.
Make your own posts. Tag accordingly. Block people if you need to. Talk to people who share your feelings. Tumblr is a place where you curate your own experience, you know?
(and in relation to this, ffs if someone enjoys Buck/Tommy that doesn't mean they've abandoned Eddie or Buddie. people can enjoy multiple ships of these fictional characters. it's normal and fine, i promise.)
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texasbama · 23 days
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Hiya I know you're a safe space and I need to get this out, so sorry in advance 🙃.
I see how amazing canon bi buck is for the queer community and I don't mind how it happened in canon. But while I should be happy, I actually kind of feel like I'm mourning? I'm so attached to eddie, maybe unhealthily so, and the ensemble found family dynamic is what first brought me to the show. For a while it's been a struggle having the fandom basically shove buck into every spec or storyline and act like he is a perfect angel and the centre of the universe. But there was always the eddiezers and it was more balanced. But now literally EVERYBODY is all about buck and tommy. It feels like the rest of the show doesn't even exist. I know its only been a couple of days but going on social media now just makes me anxious and idk why really. I'm worried about future eddie storylines, I'm desperate for marisol to disappear, but the vibe is that now buck is bi nothing else matters, we've won apparently, who even cares about eddie or the other characters because buck kissed a man.
Also I'm sex-repulsed ace and people saying how if you don't like it you're a purist and an evangelical and homophobic and biphobic actually makes me feel like shit. I never really understood wanting two characters to have sex 'because why not', because I don't understand why anyone wants to ever lol. I can only read buddie smut in very specific scenarios and most of the time i skip even that. And the rhetoric in a lot of tumblr space recently makes me feel like a bad person for not being all for it 100%. I don't think I've explained myself well here but I tried. You don't have to reply or post this either, I just wanted to reach out to someone in fandom who won't jump down my throat for it 😅. 911 is kind of a hyperfixation of mine so even though I'm trying to stay away as much as possible so as to not make myself more upset but I have no idea what to do with myself otherwise 🫠. Thanks for reading and sorry for unloading on you
Please don’t apologize, im happy you felt like I was a safe space. Im gonna break this into two parts and I hope I can articulate myself correctly lol
1) the first few days after an episode, any episode but especially one like this, isn’t indicative of fandom as a whole. Emotions are heightened due to what happened in the episode. Everyone is screaming about something and it’s in your face ya know? This week something HUGE happened, so yes people are talking about it. It was to be expected. We must make space for people to be happy about it. It’s a beautiful thing and queer joy MUST be celebrated.
This show (for the most part) has done a beautiful job of giving each character their time to shine(some more so than others but thats a conversation for a different day). Coming off 7x04, yes the headline is Bi Buck. And it will continue to be for a while, but it’s important to remember that YOU curate your fandom experience. I don’t blame you at all for what you’re feeling, ESPECIALLY as an Eddie girlie(gn), like I get it! Trust me! I’ve had to carefully maneuver through some emotions this week myself. I’m human! But filtering and being able to step away is everything.
Being excited about the storyline and also hoping and wanting more from other storylines are two things that can be true at the same time. It’s not one or the other. Remember that.
2) im going to say this and just know the caps is because I am just passionate. I promise you, its yelling at you with love okay?
I know it is easier said than done, but don’t you EVER allow ANYONE on this fucking hellsite make you feel less than or that your asexuality is anything but 100% valid. YOU are valid, you hear me?
Okay. I had to make sure to say that first. Whew. Now. As for the fandom piece of it all, we have to remember that there levels to it. You are allowed to feel the way you feel about sex, BUT it’s also important to remember that sex positivity (and those who express it) is also a good and valid. If you feel like there are blogs that talk down to you, imply that YOU are homophobic or biphobic simply because YOU are not doing cartwheels about different sex acts, then block. Unfollow. Do whatever you need to. Those people are scum.
Listen to me *pulls you close*, this is always a safe space. You are a valid, your existence and experiences are valid. And anyone who makes you question that can fuck right off. And lastly, HAPPY ASEXUALITY DAY TO YOU SPECIFICALLY! MUAH! 💜🤍🩶🖤
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outrunningthedark · 2 months
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So you obviously don’t want buddie, you love Buck, you hate Eddie/Ryan but all you ever talk about is how you hate buddie people and wish for Buck with another man. Why not talk about something else? Why shit on buddie fans on everything? You can ship Buck and Tommy without dragging buddie fans to make your point.
You guys make it hard to care when you can't even get your facts right. o1. I stopped worrying about Buddie going canon in season six. Doesn't mean I didn't once believe in it or don't still think it could happen down the line. o2. Buddie going canon is more difficult than 99% of you want to admit or will ever understand, so while it would be a nice surprise, I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket just because anons behind a screen think I should. o3. I do not love Buck. The discussion has been around Buck because HE is the one I could see having new feelings about his sexuality (because HE is the one who will be single) and there are others who want to talk about that, others who aren't married to Buddie endgame. o4. I do not hate Eddie. I feel the same way about Eddie as I do Buck. I prefer them together than apart because their relationship with Chris is what drew me in. I've never needed canon to encourage me to say Chris has two dads (something I got A LOT of shit for, and now it's the smart thing to say, LOL), so if Buddie never goes canon, nothing changes on my end. o5. I do not hate Ryan. Speaking truths about him and the choices he's made is not hate. I'm glad he got out of that shitty relationship and hope he figures out how to be who he wants to be instead of the man he thought he should be. o6. Why is it always about what I say and not what someone else says just because they can't wrap their head around Buddie not happening? Why am I supposed to be on my "best behavior" when your people don't know how to act like people?
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fiona-fififi · 16 days
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Fiona, my dear!
For the sleepover weekend - how’re you finding 911 7A? What’s got you excited from the current episodes? And What are you excited for them to explore?
Ooh, excellent questions!! Thank you!!
I am loving almost everything about 7A. It really has been a trip to see the season open and just go SO hard from day one. There are few things here or there that I haven't loved—I would have liked more of the actual rescue in 7x03 (I really wanted to see Athena's relief at discovering it was Hen and the team who had come for them—I think Athena deserves to be vulnerable with people other than Bobby more often, and since Hen is her best friend, it just would have been nice to see). Also, I am not loving the way they’re approaching Hen and Karen's storyline this season. The dog call was. not cool. And there were moments even beyond that that I didn't think were played all that well. The henren storyline seems to have taken a backseat, and while I get that to an extent, I really don't want to see them botch that. It deserves all the love and care in the world, and I want to see it come together in the best possible way.
Other than that, for the most part, I'm fully on board with everything that has happened this season. The cruise arc was pretty impeccable, as is the bi!Buck arc. I think 911 has really rediscovered its stride in 7A. Everything kind of feels like a speedrun, but also like it's being given the time and care it needs, and that's not an ease task to take on. They've managed to pack so much meaning into such brief scenes, it's kind of incredible.
Regarding the current episode, I haven't even fully processed everything, but I think probably just the care with which everything surrounding Buck's experience has been handled. It doesn't feel like the show is coddling him—he's being allowed to fuck up and be really fucking stupid while he figures himself out—but it's also done a beautiful job reinforcing just how much love and support he has in the people around him, and the way it's being played is just so relatable and in character for Buck. I think it's beautiful that they let his coming out to Maddie be playful and even a little bit accidental, but still so full of joy, and I love that they showed that with Eddie it was a little different, a little more nerve-racking, but that once he'd said it, he trusted Eddie with it and was ready to talk it out in whatever way they both needed, and all Eddie met him with was love. It was just so soft and gentle, and it was all done SO well.
And, truly, I have always believed that buddie was happening, but I'm at the point where I truly wonder if it might be happening by the end of this season. And I'd be fine if they wait, but it really feels like we're half a step to there, and that is a hell of a feeling.
So I think I'm most excited for them to explore the Buck and Eddie dynamic moving forward and how these new revelations are going to play out for them (not to mention the Christopher of it all). I do also like Buck and Tommy and would like to see a little bit more of Buck's growth through Tommy, though I'm starting to let him go a bit. I think he's served an important purpose, and I'm glad we'll have a little more time with him, but I'm ready for the show to re-focus in the other dynamics a bit more strongly. I'm really ready for them to buckle down with the madney and henren storylines for the season, and I don't know that there's going to be a lot of room for Tommy there (unless they actually tie him more significantly back into Chimney or Hen or Bobby's stories—which I would love to see, and I do expect him to be the one saving Chimney, but I want that to be about Chimney and Tommy’s past, not as an offshoot of Tommy as Buck's boyfriend).
So, I don't know if that answers your questions well, but it's where I stand right now. I think we're in for a rollercoaster in 7B, and I can't wait!
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