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i really didn't get the locker room convo comment... like what was oliver getting at? i truly have no idea how to interpret it

You know how the fandom caught that the locker room scene could be interpreted as Buck asking Eddie on a "date" because Eddie thought go-karting was something better suited for Natalia, the girlfriend? Oliver appeared to have noticed it, too. (And he was very casual when telling the journalist, but I would imagine the actual conversation was more along the lines of "You sure about that?" because he knows those little moments aren't meaning what people want them to mean for the time being.)

#anonymous #tina speaks

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this just about sums it up

#all i'm gonna day is being from utah makes so much fucking sense in hindsight

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ALL AMERICAN 6.04 "Black Out"

#tv: all american #layla keating #spencer james #greta onieogou #daniel ezra

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you gotta admit that the more he talks about it the more it sounds like he actually wants it to happen though. all those buddie shippers calling Tommy a plot device are suddenly not looking too crazy.

Okay, this? This line of thinking is exactly what gets fandom in trouble. What good is calling Tommy a "plot device" for the benefit of Buddie when Buddie going canon is dependent on TWO people, and the other person has made it clear that as of now he'd prefer to keep the focus on the friendship without putting Buck and Eddie together because it's what fans want? The fact that Oliver essentially "called out" Tim for including the date convo in the locker room - something that must be easy to pick up on after years of reading fan theories and watching edits - shows, IMO, that Oliver is very much aware of Tim's *hopes* to "go there" one day. But just like Oliver said (again), he knows the story isn't coming to life unless it's true to the characters and their journey. Because he knows it has to be written exactly right if everybody is going to open themselves up to the hysteria that would immediately ensue the moment Buddie goes canon.

#anonymous #tina speaks

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The more Oliver talks the more obvious it is that he sees no point in censoring himself for the rest of time because he knows Buddie going canon is more complicated than the fandom will ever realize and just may never happen. 🙈

#tina speaks

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BEYONCÉ Act II: COWBOY CARTER 3.29.2024

#[tips cap] ​ma’am. #beyoncé #beyoncé knowles

[outrunningthedark]

When do you think they wanted to make Buck bi in the show earlier?

Considering how Buck spent all of season three not looking for any sort of relationship and the finale allowed him to finally let go of a past love (Abby) in order to start over with someone new…I’m going with season four.

I think the crossover moment between TK and Buck was exactly what we keep talking about - Tim telling the story in a way that could serve as evidence for canon while still offering plausible deniability, but he should have asked first 🫠

I never believed that Buddie would go canon without Tim’s input and chance to take the credit (which is why the theories in 6B had me like 😬), so his departure in season five feels more…understandable now. Buck can’t be bi? Eddie won’t be queer? What did they need Tim for? Anybody could write those scenes.

(People say he went to LS because it’s not as successful, but idk…doubt it’s a coincidence that Tarlos got engaged and married when Tim took over again.)

#anonymous #tina speaks #tv: 911 #tv: 9-1-1 #buddie

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i know fandom's been getting some laughs out of oliver saying he wanted to play buck as bi even if it was never confirmed (which is amusing to me for the simple fact that he clearly already was without trying, otherwise we wouldn't be shipping him with eddie), but imagine having to sit with the knowledge that your character could have been canonically bi and wind up dating a dude only to get a girlfriend, cheat on said girlfriend, break up with that girlfriend, and get a new girlfriend in the span of two seasons asdfghjkl (makes the ily scene from 5A all the more funny, if you ask me. "where did it all go wrong???" )

#tina speaks #tv: 911 #tv: 9-1-1 #evan buckley #oliver stark

[outrunningthedark]

I don't think they're working towards Buck and Eddie and I don't know if it'll ever happen, but sometimes I wonder if it was genuinely considered in season 4 and the beginning of season 5. There are so many scenes that seemed purposeful to me in those seasons but I also don't know because I could've just been using my shipping goggles. Also that twitter insider posted a gif of Eddie and Anna from season 5 and said that they wish they could say what was going on behind the scenes at that time etc, and just now they posted a screenshot of the article acknowledging that Buck was going to be bisexual in one of the past seasons but it was shut down by a higher up, and idk the twitter insider worded it like the bts information she knew of was connected to that information. And so I kinda irrationally thought that maybe buddie was connected to that (probably unlikely though). Also buddie aside I wouldn't be surprised in season 5 if the writers were genuinely thinking Eddie about Eddie being gay and I remember even members of the GA started to be like is Eddie gay??

I say this as someone who has no expectations for Buddie anymore: I think your POV isn't far from the truth. I think Tim, much like this season, had ideas for how Bi Buck would happen, and then if Bi Buck was successful, he'd move onto Queer Eddie. But just like what we saw happen with Ryan "allegedly" saying Tommy wasn't the right approach to Eddie's story line, Tim made choices without actually getting a verbal agreement from ALL the necessary individuals, which is why Bi Buck didn't get any traction back then. And if Bi Buck got shot down because he was supposed to be the "heartthrob" or whatever, there was no way Queer Eddie was gonna happen when Eddie was the one who came on the show with an estranged wife as part of his backstory. (I don't think Queer Eddie ever got to the point where Ryan could be asked about it because Bi Buck was a no-go, and honestly? I'm glad. If he ain't in that headspace now, no way he was three years ago. He's working through it at his own pace, though. I'm taking his side every time.)

#anonymous #tina speaks

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Seinfeld – 8.04: The Little Kicks

#i'll drink to that🥂 #tv: seinfeld

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9K MAKE ME CHOOSE:･ﾟ✧:･ﾟ@donnaamoss ASKED: Brooke/Haley or Lucas/Haley?

You did everything you could, Hales. Now, what can I do for you? Nothing. It's just really nice to have you here. I love you, Brooke Davis. I know. I love you, too.

#the lesbian in me would have loved if they were the real couple i'm sorry #tv: one tree hill #brooke davis #haley james scott #brooke x haley #sophia bush #bethany joy lenz

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You— you are an incredible person. No. No, you're incredible, okay? You deserve so much better. That's why I'm walking away. Don’t do this. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? I’m sorry.

THE ROOKIE — 6.06 'Secrets And Lies'

#i live for the forehead kiss #BUT NOT LIKE THIS 😭 #tv: the rookie #chenford #eric winter #melissa o'neil

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i am not immune to heart shaped objects

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Are you insinuating there is something between R and O?

Yeah, no. What I *am* saying is that when you actually take the time to recognize how they've always been like that it becomes EASIER to remove romance from the discussion, especially when they're encouraging fans to get more familiar and more comfortable with men being "too close" without assuming it means anything regarding sexuality. They're talking about themselves just as much as they're talking about the characters.

#anonymous #tina speaks

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happy lesbian visibility week

#let's go lesbians!!!!! #follow the rainbow

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Was thinking the same wouldn’t the constant begging and etc make the actors more inclined to NOT want to do it

The fact that they're even bringing it up on their own in separate interviews tells you just how sick they are of people asking for Buddie and treating other actors like shit on instagram and twitter in the process 🙃 (And let's not forget that Ryan already said something similar last month when he talked about side characters having a hard time being accepted by the audience...) Do they understand why people ship Buddie? Yep. Do they agree that there's an undeniable chemistry? Yup. Does that mean they want to bring more attention to themselves by playing LIs on screen? That would be a 'no' right now, sorry. (Side note - The chemistry thing completely misses the point. "Oliver says we're not seeing things omg" Yeah, he's been saying that for years. The fact that they can't just "turn off" whatever it is that draws them together is the problem since fandom thinks it's so easy to just. Not look at each other "like that". Considering how this all started with gym scenes where both characters were written to be straight, I would think by now we can admit that not everything they do is on purpose; they just don't know any other way.)

#anonymous #tina speaks

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At the end of the day, Ryan or Oliver’s opinion are not what will make Buddie happen (or not) 🤷🏽‍♀️ even writers have less autonomy over a story than executives, imagine actors?! They can give personal opinions over their characters but besides what they are paid to do, there’s not much else. Don’t get me wrong, I like the promo interviews, it’s cool to see how they think and create those characters but actually they have very little control about how those stories will go and that’s it.

While I understand the thought process behind asks like these (I've gotten several), I think many of you are downplaying the seriousness of the situation, even if unintentionally. Actors who sign on to play a straight character are not then expected to take on a queer arc if the show runner wants to change direction. What actors want does matter in this scenario because it will impact public perception (y'all seeing the reactions to Oliver after the ZS interview?) and potential future projects if their most "famous" role is one in which they were convincingly queer. I get wanting to be optimistic about Tim fighting for Buddie, and convincing Ryan and Oliver to do it - and he might, one day - but he's not the one people are gonna judge and "look into" after bringing the story to life.

#anonymous #tina speaks