What do you think lupin needs in a romantic partner to have a functioning/healthy relationship (as healthy as this man can manage atleast)? What qualities would this person have to have to be able to deal with all the more challenging aspects of being in a relationship with him? But also what does he want in a partner? And what would he absolutely not want?
Me. I am perfect. Remus Lupin hmu
Remus Romantic Partner pt1: Remus is needy
Link to pt2: Remus is good (aint done it yet sorry)
In short:
Remus Lupin needs an ANCHOR POINT to harbor his ship.
1. Someone interesting he can pour his attention into.
2. Generally up-beat/optimistic, so he has warmth to lean on.
3. Bold enough to be themselves - even if they're different.
4. Kind and accepting of other people
5. A little 'cute'. 'Quirky'. Small 'issues' support. (just a bonus, really)
6. Independent. Can live without him just fine but still want him.
7. Emotionally strong. Immense maturity and stability.
8. Doesn't have much temper, doesn't start drama or fights.
Of course he doesn't need ALL of these boxes ticked - but the highlighted ones are the closest to a MUST for the relationship to even have a chance at being healthy.
In long:
Explanations (and example characters who I think fit) are below. B^)
Remus is an introverted man. He isn't shy (he can take charge of a room, he can speak publicly, he is good at getting people to like him) but when he isn't the focus he is a wall-flower. He doesn't talk much unless he has something to say.
He is deeply, irreparably self-conscious. He has trauma of unintentionally hurting those he loves, so he keeps his distance.
((His parents became sick with the stress of having to move house every few months, find new work every few months, keeping their bank account drained... socially isolated with a son they had to lock away every Full Moon - lest he killed them.
They loved him but that was a difficult thing for Remus to grow up witnessing, knowing he was the cause. Knowing him leaving for Hogwarts was the best thing to happen for their health since he was bitten... Of course he pushes people away.
He can't help being sick - but he can help them not suffer... if he stays away.))
He is always thinking inwardly. He is always anxious. He wonders how he can make himself smaller, friendlier, less scary… Trying to plan how he wants others to relate to him. He tries to control how others think of him, to steer them away from the bad things...
He is a wolf in wizards clothing. If he treats everyone as dolls to manipulate, and if they never know the real him... it will hurt everyone less when he leaves.
1. He needs someone who can bust him out of that toxic mindset. Someone that grabs his attention and pulls it away from himself.
Someone interesting, skilled, passionate - living a life he can't achieve. Someone with knowledge or stories he can listen to at length and live a little through them... or they can even include him.
More of a talker so he can be a listener, so he can focus on someone else's world - but they're also eager to hear whatever he has to say without prying. They aren't arrogant or loud: they can listen, too.
Remus needs good, witty conversation over a cup of tea.
2. They need to be generally up-beat, but not in a way that'll crush his down-beat. They invite him to join in if he wants - or else lean on them like they're a heater for his troubled soul while he feels down.
Sometimes he will feel bad, or flat, or tired - and they can't fix it.
I don't think he has any visual preferences. What he notices first about people are their mannerisms. He is always shaping himself to fit the room, so I think he admires people who act authentically: Boldness. Bravery. Honesty. Earnestness. Brashness.
So...
3. He would be more attracted to people of subcultures and/or strong interests - or are simply out-of-the-expected-norm.
I think he would be fascinated about these little nooks of belonging - alternate 'normal's' when the Wizarding world can be so rigid.
(Do I think he has a preference for LGBTQIA+? Yeah. General androgyny too.)
4. Kind. Accepting. They need to be kind to others in general.
Because he can't always be kind to others. He puts himself first and sometimes that hurts because he WANTS to be more kind.
A partner who can pick up the slack? Who he can trust to always be kind and accepting of him - because they are such a way with everyone...? That's just a requirement, really.
5. A small thing I think he likes in particular: A cute factor.
A little clumsy, A little slow, Enthusiastic, Awkward, Weak, A bit short/tall... something that isn't an issue but will pop up every now and then, distract him and make him go '...cute. That was cute.'
Something he can effortlessly support. Something he can be thoughtful about, thinking of their needs rather than his own.
- They struggle to read quickly? He can read out loud for them.
- They tend to act impulsively? He can hold them back just enough to let them to give it a second thought.
- They struggle in social situations? So he can talk on their behalf.
- They keep fumbling and tripping over? He can keep them steady.
It's nice to feel useful and kind in a simple, effortless way.
Something so obvious to proves he isn't bad at heart - even when he feels awful.
6. They need to be Independent. What he CAN'T have is someone who NEEDS him. Oh god, the pressure… He cant be trapped.
He requires a high level of independence... because he WILL FAIL.
He WILL leave and break their heart over nothing.
He WILL make promises he doesn't intend to keep - because he intends to run away and never look back.
If they NEED him, just to stay afloat…? It will break him.
He can't be the bread-winner, even if he could have a stable job.
He can't be a long-term emotional support, only short-term.
He needs to know that WHEN he breaks down and fucks off not 'if' - even if it's FOREVER… that they will be okay without him.
'Not being ok without him' won't make him stay.
He will not 'shape up under a bit of pressure'. It will only injure him.
7. He needs someone strong enough to be forgiving.
Not a self-harming, forcing yourself to forgive-and-forget either.
That is a very real danger with Remus: If he got with someone who was as much a people-pleasing self-depreciator as him…? He will tear them to shreds.
He is a toxic man and he requires tough gloves to handle:- Genuinely emotionally strong. Someone he can lean on, far more than they lean on him.
- Wise enough to see through his bullshit manipulations and lies - with enough tact to navigate them, understanding he struggles without judgement but holding him gently accountable.
- Empathetic enough to understand him even when he can't explain himself properly.
- Mature enough to hold him accountable. Can help him understand how he can do better. He is filled with shame - sometimes for very good reasons that need addressing.
He will go through periods of being unable to be contacted, periods of self-endangerment…
He needs somewhere, someone, he can crawl back to in shame.
Who WILL talk with him seriously about things… but is willing to just let him sleep quietly for the night in their arms, for now.
(Am I saying he needs to date a therapist? Yeah, basically. Dating Remus isn't easy.)
8. Doesn't start fights. Doesn't lash out. Doesn't live off of drama.
Remus fits himself into situations passively - he doesn't need someone making situations more difficult to feel comfortable in.
If they get angry and yell at him - he will yell one hurtful thing back and leave. He has a very limited ability withstand tension.
He tries to keep a level head and a level room - he needs a partner who will support those efforts, or at least not sabotage them.
Partners I think have good chemistry, for examples:
NYMPHADORA TONKS.
It is annoying how perfectly she has been made to fit Remus' needs, as she is so underutilized. I wouldn't find her as frustrating if she got more fleshing out in ways that weren't the specific things suited to being with Remus… ugh.
- She is a skilled Auror, especially for her age.
- She lightens the mood of any room by being playful.
- She is unapologetic in being herself, accepting people with ease.
- She is a bit clumsy - but capable and hugely independent.
- Her ability to roll with the punches is insane: every time Remus is hot-and-cold she has both the ability to hold him responsible for how much it hurts and the strength to still stand there for him.
- She is firey and doesn't back down, but she isn't trying to start fights. She's just stubborn and confident in what she has to say.
To make claims like 'Remus only likes her because she can shapeshift' or whatever is just... no, its because she is perfect for him.
LUNA LOVEGOOD.
Surprising, I know. Perhaps in different circumstances they could have hit it off.
- Strong interests, a subculture at the edge of Wizarding society yet she is always 'uniquely' and brazenly herself.
- Optimistic and up-beat... a little dreamy, air-headed, focus could use some steering sometimes.
- Helpful and kind to all, even those that have been mean to her.
- Very used to being alone. Independent in body and soul. Quite comfortable being alone - but friends are nice, too.
- Emotional strength is a specialty of hers. Even in the worst situations she keeps her head on her shoulders and, despite how aloof she appears, is intelligent, sharp and serious.
- Can make demands when she needs to - not a pushover.
Bonus: An interest in magical creatures, too. :)
Close, but I think have a large flaw (that might makes them spicy):
SEVERUS SNAPE
- Potions Master. Dark Arts specialist. Veteran teacher. All the steady employment and deep, fascinating interests Remus wishes he could have - along with ALSO having been a Spy... and being misunderstood. They have more in common than they don't.
- He isn't optimistic, but he is a problem solver, dedicated to making things better than they are. He faces problems head on while Remus would rather curl away.
- He understands feeling quiet and low. He might not be warm, but he is a softer place to rest than you'd expect.
- He has never changed himself for anyone. He is stubbornly himself, even when it makes him seem like an outcast weirdo.
- He has little patience. He isn't gentle or nice. But he cares enough to be kind, even to those he hates... and he is loyal.
It isn't ideal for Remus but it gives him a place to fit himself:
If Severus is cold, he is warm.
If Severus has the quirk of being a snarky, prickly bastard - Remus is skilled at the opposite.
- Independent. Accustomed to being alone. Expects to be alone.
Being with someone who understands him... a little daunting, really.
The main place I think Severus fails here is emotional strength.
He is quick to anger and lashes out. He holds grudges.
He starts shit and Remus can't handle shit.
Severus needs someone who can temper those anger flares, or at least weather them - and Remus can do neither.
But perhaps that is the place they can meet in the middle...?
LILY EVANS
- Everyone liked her. Talented, bright and strong-willed, She was a popular girl. I think Remus liked her too, but... James and Severus.
- She seems a bit cheeky, quick witted - she brightens a room when she walks in.
- She was best friends with Severus for years. Maybe she had other friends in her dorm - but if they were as close to her as Severus was, they would have been HIS friends, too.
She was willing to be with the outcast, even when popular.
- I know it's a movie quote, but I think it still fits from Remus' POV when he says Lily was an 'uncommonly kind woman' and 'had a way of seeing the beauty in others when that person cannot see it themselves.' I think she accepted him fast and firmly.
- She didn't need anyone else. She stood up to James by herself. She knew what she was worth.
- She seems to prefer ending fights rather than starting them. She hates a bully.
Lily doesn't have the 'grit' (for lack of a better word) to take toxicity.
She hated James' bullying. She dropped Severus. She has patience and an 'I can help fix him' desire - but they need to put in the effort, too. James cleaned up his act somewhat and she liked that.
Remus isn't going to fully succeed at 'fixing' himself. Not just by 'putting some effort in'. It is going to take so long, and be so slow...
Severus would be far easier to 'I can help fix him' - and she couldn't handle him.
!!!This isn't saying Lily is weak or something. It is incredibly HEALTHY to not being able to put up with toxic shit, to have the strength to say 'enough is enough'. That is a GOOD thing.!!!
A popular partner I DON'T think works out so easily:
SIRIUS BLACK
Sirius Black is a dog. He needs people.
He needs constant companionship - especially after Azkaban. He is a mess who needs support, company, loyalty... and Remus can't provide any of that with regularity!
Waking up in an empty bed, in a cold room, after Remus timidly promised to 'always be there' for him but was lying... it would shatter Sirius.
He doesn't have the strength or stability to lose anyone else.
Sirius is honest and sticks to his guns even when times get tough. He would rather DIE than turn his back on a loved one.
Remus lies unprovoked and runs away with his tail between his legs at the slightest sign of trouble.
Sirius, as a traumatized man, is not going to be able to understand why Remus can just throw away everything he has to run off.
How he could just leave him alone again...? Doesn't he love him?!
At his worst: he is more likely to try and emotionally trap Remus with him, force him to stay - and that just isn't going to work.
Remus is a Wolf. He can't be locked in.
I don't even think Sirius at his best, pre-Azkaban, would fit well:
- He is upbeat, but in a way that tries to break others out of their funks. It's abrasive for him to hang out with someone sad.
((I'm sure he could learn to do it but his instinct is to help.))
- He is kind - but he has a limit. When that limit is passed, his care is snapped. He holds grudges and he makes judgements.
- He is not and has never been independent. He is strong-willed and confident about himself, yes - but he thrives when he is at another's side. He has always been like this Azkaban just made it worse.
- He doesn't have what it takes to weather Remus' bullshit.
That's not a bad thing either, he know how to cut toxic people from his life when they are too heavy - but post-Azkaban he is even more scared of losing people, which makes him vulnerable.
- He starts shit. He jumps into arguments, he escalates, he enjoys the thrill and the drama of it. Remus wouldn't join in, even if he agrees with Sirius, and thus would leave him unsupported.
We see this very thing happen in OotP
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