#Bruce is even worse

[frownyalfred]

“oh I’m 100% human” says the Batkid who’s been inoculated against 76 different kinds of Scarecrow’s fear toxin, has built up immunity to almost anything Poison Ivy has created, routinely goes diving into the Gotham harbor on patrol, has been blessed/cursed by a variety of deities (depending on the kid), frequently picks up random/temporary powers from various missions, and operates at beyond peak human capabilities in combat, athleticism, and intelligence.

#Bruce is even worse #he says he’s human #but he’s been cursed and blessed so many times #and does things through sheer willpower #like that training routine ain’t human bro #sorry to tell you that #the whole batfamily prides themselves on being (mostly) human #and it’s barely true #it’s true of technicality #bruce wayne #batman #dc #batfamily #thoughts

[bbbbbbbbatman]

Bruce finally decided it’s time to reveal his identity to Superman and Wonder Woman, so he takes off his mask…and is met with two blank faces. Zero recognition.

Like, Bruce Wayne is in that celebrity category of being famous for being rich and famous and also as a local celebrity, so I like to imagine that outside of Gotham, if you’re not that into celebrity culture, you probably wouldn’t recognize him walking down the street. And yeah, Clark’s a journalist, but the celebrity stuff and charity fluff pieces aren’t really his area and Diana’s never really understood the fascination with celebrities. So yeah, they don’t recognize their coworker sans makeup and expensive clothes, with helmet hair, looking like he hasn’t slept in 48 hours.

So now Bruce has to sit there, trying to figure out the least dickish way to say “don’t you know who I am?” bc he’s just not used to the lack of reaction. So he finally stumbles out with, “do you not recognize me?”

And Clark is feeling the awkwardness now but trying to be polite, “I’m so sorry, have we met as civilians before?”

“N-no, that’s—that’s not what I meant.”

Diana, trying to be helpful, “oh, are you some kind of celebrity?”

“Uh, yeah. Yeah, I am.”

“Oh,” Diana is excited now, “are you one of those influencers I’ve heard of?”

Bruce thinks a little part of him just died inside. “No, no. I’m…no.”

He’s trying so hard to think of the best way to explain that’s he’s famous for being rich, stupid, and having his parents killed traumatically in front of him but without sounding like that guy, like he’s trying to brag to his coworkers bc he’s not, he’s just used to bigger reactions, okay?

But now Diana and Clark are staring at him all politely and earnestly, wanting to learn about their teammate, meanwhile Bruce is trying to shrink into himself like a turtle bc he’s feeling super embarrassed and he would have played this whole thing differently if he’d known this is how it was going to go

#he can’t just say ‘I’m Bruce Wayne’ #bc what if they don’t recognize his name? #then the situation is even worse #batman has contingency plans if someone somehow recognizes him #but no contingency plan for when someone /doesn’t/ recognize him #bruce feels so vindicated later on revealing his identity to other jl members #and they freak out #batman #bruce wayne #superman #clark kent #wonder wonder #diana prince #superwonderbat #justice league #dc #dc comics #mine

[introspectivememories]

goddd i just know that tim never takes off that fucking necklace. and you know bear doesn't have that much money so tge necklace was kinda cheap and it wasn't anything the bear meant for tim to wear regularly it was just like a keepsake y'know? wear it on a date or a nice outing. maybe when they're both home together. but tim is practically feral over it. like straight up refuses to take it off. it's turning his neck green at this point and everybody is soo done.

#bruce who's allergic to anything under $10000000 breaks out into hives everytime he sees it #bruce trying not to gag: sweetheart what if we replaced it? bernard wouldn't even know! #tim: if you try to replace my necklace i will leak that video of you pole dancing at the penguin lounge #bruce who's had worse things leaked: do it #tim 'backup plans for my backup plans' drake: i will send talia a compilation of you drunkenly rambling about how much you love her #bruce: .... okay you win #dick gets it #your first gay relationship does that to you #bear is a little worried tho #🐻: you know you don't have to wear it right? you could take it off #tim trembling and shaking: you don't want mw to wear it? 😢 #🐻 immediately caving: no no! wearit as long as you want!! #dude even ra's gets in on it #ra's going over his master plan: so you see detective i will then- what the fuck is going on with your neck #tim seething cause he can hear his siblings laughing at him over the comms: shut the fuck up #dc #bernard dowd #tim drake #timber #timbern #could not stop thinking about the ra's scenario yesterday. kept making myself laugh

[bruciemilf]

Re-watching Spiderverse. My curiosity wills me to make an AU where Jason gets thrown in an intricate mess of multiverses where he's adopted by almost all Bruce variants.

"So let me get this straight,"

of course, he's god's most hated freak, and the ONE person who can guide him through this mess is a small, annoying, cartoon version of Dick.

"This is a network of intricate, interdimensional realities stitched to a 'canon' tapestry. And Batman has to lose me in every single one to hold it up."

"Sure! There's a less idiotic way of putting it, but I like your enthusiasm. "

Jason's urge to squeeze this funko pop motherfucker until the life slowly bleeds away grows. It can wait, thought.

Currently, he's trying to help with neutralizing a version of Bizarro. Poor guy must've gotten lost again. Very strange that only one Bruce accompanied him, thought.

"So how many Batmen are there, exactly? Seems like one's enough." He mutters, refusing to let the familiar warmth infest his body when thinking of how they look at Jason.

Like the universe ends and starts with him.

"Oh there's a whole bunch! We have 80s Batman, cowboy Batman, Batman who cries, Batman who sings opera, Looney Toones Batman, -- a personal favorite, -- really the numbers are unlimited!"

Jason watches with strange sense of unease as this one variant handles Bizzaro. "And that's who? Biker gang leader Batman?"

Nightmite gets quiet for a second. Jason pauses, because THAT’S strange.

This eery nervousness only springs when this Bruce, -- not as old as everyone, hell, not even as old as JASON, -- glues a green device on Bizzaro's chest and leaps away.

"That's, uh...Batman who kills."

Jason doesn't have time to react as a booming explosion overwhelmes his senses. His knees are weak. And not just because the ugly stench of burning flesh invades his senses.

But because this Bruce, this Batman, is aiming for him and quick. That mask sends him right on edge. He hates the way it only covers Bruce's mouth, forcing Jason to gaze into sharp, brutal blue eyes.

"Jason?"

"What the fuck is wrong with you," Jason snarls before anything else. "He was detained! He wasn't a threat anymore!"

"He got roofed with red kryptonite and destroyed half a neighborhood. What did you want me to do?"

"Come up with another plan! Trap him, knock him out! Blowing him to pieces doesn't solve anything!" Jason yells, Nightmite looking incredibly worried and hiding behind his shoulder. "Try TALKING to him. Show him some fucking mercy."

"We tried that before. It's not working." He says, "Mercy doesn't get results."

"It gets you HUMANITY."

"If your Batman thought you that, he already failed."

#this is a teenage bruce variant so EXTRA chaotic. basically hes gonna start a manhunt for jason since he needs to keep the canon going #Even thought he doesnt HAVE a jason. nightmite quietly explaining to jason that the one thing worse than bruce losing robins #is not having robins at all. and this bruce really kinda uses ' its canon. cope' to ensure all batman dont have weaknesses #bruce wayne #dc #dc comics #jason todd #nightmite #batdad #text #text post #dick grayson #teenage bruce wayne #im not even gonna defend myself but this bruce's design FUCKS. imagine the winter soldier only cyberpunk

[batmanisagatewaydrug]

gonna sob @ this from Batman #430, published immediately after Jason's murder 😭

#bruce wayne #batblogging #pretty much all downhill after this though #i don't like when writers feel the need to make the night bruce's parents died Even Worse #'what if thomas and martha took bruce to see a movie because thomas slapped him earlier that day' #what if you shut the fuck up

[graveyardgremlins]

danny phantom: is enemy number 1 in amity park, allegedly tried to kill the mayor, pretty much a terrorist at this point, evil future version of himself killed the justice league

jason todd: ✨️ everybody makes mistakes 💃💅

#danny phantom #dead on main #dp x dc #jason todd #pretty much the whole fanfic tbh #even funnier if you think about how bruce was CERTAIN that danny was a red hood apologist #only to find out danny is MUCH worse lol #tsdloo

[ijustthinkhesneat]

Okay but realistically imagine what Bruce would do when Jason came back.

Chasing this knee criminal who keeps referencing his dead son. Pushing his buttons. How dare he presume to know anything about Jason. The lost light of his life, his baby boy. He can feel that darkness creeping around the edges of his mind. That pit of anger and murderous rage he is scared he will never pull himself out of.

Hearing that robotic voice taunting him about failing Jason, failing to avenge him. He tried, god he tried. He was so close he had the knife against the jokers throat. And then he was being pulled away. Clark stopped him. Told him that he wasn’t acting like himself.

God he loves Clark but he can still feel that small pit of resentment fester whenever he thinks about bleeding that clown.

How dare he say he never loved Jason. He would have given everything to have him back for even a moment. His wealth, his status, Batman, his soul, Gotham itself. There were only three things he would never trade away. His sons. His precious boys. He would destroy himself without a second thought for their happiness. If there was anything he could give, any price he could pay to just see his baby one more time he would do it happily.

Then they are alone. He’s cornered the Red Hood. An abandoned warehouse, a bomb. He should tear him apart where he stands. He dares to make a mockery of his greatest failure? How he failed Jason. His son. His baby. His world. He will make him suffer.

Then the helmet comes off. A young man. Gentle black curls with a shock of white running through them. A domino mask over his face. It can’t be. And the mask comes away. And Bruce sees them. Those beautiful blue eyes that have haunted every sleepless night. Filled with hatred. Swimming with green fury.

But none of it matters. All the anger in Bruce is gone. He tears of the cowl, he has to see, has to see his baby’s face. Jason has a gun leveled at him, but it doesn’t matter. Nothing matters because Jason is here. He is alive in front of Bruce. Every wish, every regret is washed away in that moment.

Bruce falls to his knees, it’s too much, more than a wretched creature like him deserves. Jason is stunned. His hand shakes slightly. He moves forward, places the gun against Bruce’s temple and still there is no fear, just wonder and adoration in Bruce’s eyes.

“Is it you Jaylad? Please this has to be a dream, please let this be real.” Jason is shocked he expected anger, disappointment, bargaining, but all there is is a father, a broken man looking upon his life’s purpose renewed before his eyes. Bruce reaches up, slowly, reverently, like at any moment Jason will disappear, he takes Jason free hand and holds it against his cheek and then Bruce’s weeps. Not silent tears or stoic crying. He weeps, snotty and red, hiccuping sobs wracking his body. He can only repeat Jason’s name like a prayer.

Jason doesn’t even realize he has dropped the gun. His Dad is caressing his hand, wailing and babbling apologies and platitudes. Jason feels himself sink to his knees. Tears spilling from his own eyes. His Dad still loves him, never stopped, he doesn’t even care that Jason had only a week ago filled a duffel bag with human heads. He is holding onto Jason like he is sacred and he can feel the anger breaking under the desire to be engulfed by his father.

In that moment they both know that no matter what happens, they’ve come home and for the first time in a long time they both feel whole.

#bruce wayne #batfam #batman #jason todd #dc batman #red hood #angst with a happy ending #under the red hood #but better #DC you cowards #imagine if this was a movie #this is everything #let them be a family #Dick is even worse than Bruce #Tim is like a fucking koala when they get back to the manor #Damian is like 3 but he is even like amazed #in his own baby Damian way

[wesavegotham]

Canon is often terrible but fanon is often even more racist and misogynistic.

#Stop using Talia to give male characters angst you dumb fucks #You're not better than Morrison #In some cases you're even worse #talia al ghul #At least DC has tried to fix Talia and Damian's relationship #And even Talia's and Bruce's relationship #Yet you cling to Morrison's racist shit #Fuck you

[summonerj]

You know those posts about Danny owning John Constantine’s soul for one reason or another, why just Constantine, why not have several people in the Justice League somehow in debt because of something or someone in their past; like someone’s mom selling their first born; or a stupid dare they did in their childhood; maybe someone asking for protection for their children in their last breath; maybe they got caught up in a ritual; maybe an old generational curse; or an old enemy

somehow this happens to the vast majority of heroes, villains, vigilantes, anti-heroes and supernatural. The only person confirmed to not be indebted to the Ghost King by the Ghost King himself is Batman

#danny fenton #bruce wayne #john constantine #dc x dp #dp x dc #dp x dc crossover #justice leauge dark #justice league #ghost king danny #Yes the one about the mom is about Jason. I absolutely believe she sold his soul just as much as Constantine did his #jason todd #red hood #danny phantom #Danny has the largest network ever. And he didn’t even have to do much! #Everyone is freaking out when Danny decided to visit the Watchtower one day and show the receipts #Danny doesn’t want to return them #He can’t even imagine the amount of paper work he would need to do #And how some of these contracts he has can prevent others from fully claiming their soul #No one is happy about this and the state of their soul #Danny showed them everything else they are in contract and why he should have full ownership because the alt is worse #No one knows how Batman doesn’t have a debt to anyone #When asked he responds with “I’m Batman” and leaves #This just fuels the theories that he’s something Other and he knows this

[ghost-bxrd]

how would your AUs react to joker junior Tim? Like if it happened if they somehow became aware of the canon one, your choice.

just curious, I’m sorry it this stuff isn’t allowed rn

Well in some Au’s (like Court Family, Shuck, and Owl Song) it wouldn’t have a chance to happen. Mostly because I’m a fan of killing off Joker early and in a very unspectacular fashion (because Joker would hate going out without a show).

But in general terms, all of them would be horrified. And I think Jason would spend a fair amount of time being terrified of Tim, depending on how Tim’s recovery process is going. But… yeah, theyre just not a good combo during that time.

The others would try their utmost to help Tim, obviously. With various degrees of success. In most Au’s this would probably also be the last straw for anyone of the Bats (but I’m partial to Jason… which tracks) to kill Joker. Have him out of their lives once and for all.

Still, I think the largest issue here would be helping Tim recover while simultaneously not triggering Jason too hard. So… different wings of the manor for them both.

#joker Junior Tim can be really intriguing #most fics are just too dark for me sadly #but yeah I think it’s especially interesting to see people handle the relationship between Jason and Tim during that time #because Jay’s trauma with joker would definitely come back with Tim #Tim makes a terrifying villain it’s just true #I think he could be worse than joker even #I love Tim #but heaven help us if he turns evil #jason todd #batfamily #dick grayson #batfam #bruce wayne #tim drake #batman #ghost talks

[soupinaboot]

You think anyone in Gotham has ever made an edit of Bruce Wayne? Like I know he's not really like a, super celebrity, but I mean he goes to all these galas and events where a lot of really well know celebrities go, and there are reporters going to them too so there has to be some photos or videos of him. Or like those edits people make of older celebrities and the younger version of them.

Just saying, they would have the videos to make an edit. 🤷‍♀️

And yeah, maybe people don't really give a shit about him since he's not like an actor or musician or influencer or whatever, but people make edits of random, semi famous people all the time so it's possible that one or two people have made one.

I'm just thinking about one of the batkids stumbling across one of them.

idk man I've just been thinking and don't know how to write out my thoughts

#idk mate #ive been watching a lot of edits and i just think some fit for him #i think it would be really fun if one of the bat childern foind one of them #like imagine you're just scrolling through tik tok and an edit of your dad popped up #or even WORSE people making angst edits of him #😐 #bruce wayne #batman #dc #dc comics #dc characters #tiktok #edit #tiktok edits #oh and clark re-watchs them religiously #if he isnt the one making them #😉 #superbat #clark kent #superman

[cluescorner]

Tim Drake has a weird fucking function

The thing about Tim that I find unique is that his life became SO MUCH WORSE after joining the heroing thing. Everybody else had a mid-to-shit life before becoming a hero/living with Bruce and mostly everybody (except Jason who LITERALLY DIED) had their life improved by being a hero/being Bruce's kid (or at least it is typically portrayed as such.

Tim had the exact opposite trajectory. His life wasn't perfect before he became Robin, but like...multi-millionaire/billionaire (canon is unclear, but he's within Gotham's upper-strata) kid with both natural intelligence + charisma and a bright future ahead of him and parents who were emotionally neglectful but nothing really beyond that (which is also a form of trauma, but all of the info we have indicates that the Drakes were no Arthur Brown or David Cain) and he still had other people he could rely on outside of them. He went to boarding school, which could be something horrible OR something amazing depending on your own thoughts/experiences. I grew up having a commute where we'd drive past a really pretty and rich af boarding school that literally everybody in our area DREAMED of going to, so to me the idea of going to boarding school sounds incredible but mileage may vary. Tim seems like the type of kid who would thrive in that though. Based on what we know in canon atm, his pre-robin life was fucking amazing.

And then he starts being the sidekick and working towards becoming Robin. His parents immediately get kidnapped and poison themselves through drinking tainted water; his mom dies and his dad is in a coma. This is not the fault of Robin, but Tim himself muses about the idea that Robin and dead parents are linked: to become Robin completely, you must lose your parents. And with how fate/destiny/canon events can operate in comics universes, maybe he isn't that far off. Once his dad wakes up, their relationship becomes strained as the man grieves the loss of his wife and realizes that his son has been doing vigilantism as a hobby. It is unclear exactly how good of a parent Jack was before the incident, but the results of Tim's involvement with the Robin mantle has definitely made things worse between father and son. Jack will also die within quick succession of 2 of Tim's best friends, his girlfriend, and his other father. He will also effectively lose like 1/2 his loved ones in the fallout of all of that mess including: his older brother, his other friends (both civilian and superhero), and the stepmother with whom he shared what I would argue is his best parent-child relationship (Dana also may have died, but it's left unclear). He has stopped pursuing higher education (the moment he even applied for college he 'died', and it seems he hasn't made another attempt since) and if he wasn’t a major focus of the media before he sure is now. He tries to quit briefly (in fact he initially was planning on quitting once someone more suited came along) and cannot bring himself to do so. Even when he does manage to get away for a while, his superhero life impacts the pre-robin life he is trying to go back to. Leaving is an impossibility, this is all there is for him now. He also isn’t allowed to make mistakes anymore, not when lives hang in the balance. The one who enforces that impossible standard the most (besides Bruce depending on who's writing) is himself. He’s got TRAUMA now and people want to hurt him constantly. He is constantly questioning his own sanity and morality and place in the world. He almost dies like every month. Tim grows colder and less grounded, he is becoming both a better and a worse version of himself at the same time. He’s saving lives in the same few issues as he’s setting up a Saw movie plot for the man who killed his father. He is haunted by the ghosts of his past and the looming figure of his future. His life becomes SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE after he becomes Robin. Some of it is the fault of others, some is the fault of circumstance, and some of it is due to his own actions. But basically all of Tim's worst traumas and life-changing moments are either tied to or caused by Robin. Dick's parents would still be dead, Jason would still be living on the streets, Stephanie would still have Arthur Brown for a father and a lot of other things that deserve their own posts/IDK if they've been retconned, and Damian would still have been raised in the eco-cult where death is a constant. Those are life circumstances that occur without the involvement of Robin, the only one who even needs Bruce involved at all in their series of events is Damian. But Tim? All of what is considered his 'worst' moments occur after he assumes the role.

This idea is what I find the coolest and most fascinating about Tim as a character. Being a hero is usually portrayed as either an outright awesome thing or a righteous duty that one must fulfill or (maybe in a grimmer and/or more grounded story) a sacrifice to your interpersonal relationships/mental health that is made for the greater good. For Tim, being a superhero actively ruined his life (both because of the general circumstances surrounding being a kid vigilante and the choices he made as part of that role). It's never portrayed that way in canon because we need to come out of issues going 'wow being a superhero is so cool! I'm gonna buy the next issue!', but when you just look at Tim's life literally everything really bad that we know of occurred after he became Robin.

#tim drake #batman #batfamily #Red Robin 2009 #Red Robin #idk this is just why I think Tim is a really interesting character. I'm probably not being as articulate as I could be but it's tumblr so #I've had a lot of people say that they think Tim is the most boring robin. And I disagree because I don't think any of them are boring #but it is definitely the hardest to explain what makes Tim interesting to people with only a cursory knowledge #and it doesn't help that a lot of what makes Tim cool relies on his relationships with OTHER characters. #like you can explain why Jason is cool and interesting without even mentioning Batman if you really want to. #with Tim you need a fucking relationship chart and like 11 asterisks whenever anything involving the 'Bruce is dead' era is involved #so I just felt like typing up why I think he can really work as an exploration of somebody who straight up got WORSE after heroing #granted it's never actually stated because DC needs to make money. and tbh the closest we've ever gotten is Red Robin 2009 #which I feel is dubiously canon at best at this rate. was it retconned? did any of it happen in the current universe?

[undertheredhood]

it’s quite sad that the only thing keeping jason todd from killing himself is that there’s a very probable chance of him being resurrected again, which is the last thing he wants happening.

#dc comics #dc universe #dcu #batman #red hood #jason todd #jason peter todd #jason was never the angry robin #the horror of never being able to rest in peace because you never know if you’ll stay dead #suicidal jason todd #which is why over the years jason had made numerous plans that will keep him dead for good #unfortunately bruce finds these plans and now his helicopter parenting has gotten even worse #jason todd needs a hug #jason has ‘dnr’ tattooed on his chest because he doesn’t want anyone to try and resurrect him

[distort-opia]

Sometimes I think about the events of Superman: Emperor Joker and the fact Bruce knows what happened, even though he doesn't remember it. And I wonder how the fuck he coped with that.

Joker literally broke Batman. He killed him and then brought him back to life, again and again, each time with more ingenious torture methods, until he went mad. And at the end of the story, Joker is shown in a cell, crazy and babbling. Apparently the Universe has been put right after Joker's rampage, including Joker's own erased memories of it, but not... Bruce's. The things Joker put him through were impossible to undo. It was Clark who had the Spectre take away Bruce's memories of it all and put them in his head, so that Bruce might become sane again (supposedly, the Kryptonian biology helps).

But the thing is, Clark tells Bruce about it. Later on, one of Joker's plans seemed dangerously reminiscent of Emperor Joker, so Clark became understandably concerned that either Bruce or Joker remembered. (Actually, it's more fair to say Clark had PTSD post-Emperor Joker). It turns out that Bruce didn't recall anything, and Joker showed no signs of it either. But Clark ends up explaining himself to Bruce anyway. Bruce knows what Joker did:

Action Comics (1938) #784

Needless to say, it's all very Superbat, especially on Clark's side. But the even more interesting part of all of this is... that the issue belongs to the bigger arc called Joker: Last Laugh. That's the plot that triggered Clark into thinking Emperor Joker was happening again. And this confession happens right before #6-- aka, the time Dick Grayson beat Joker to death but then Batman saved his life. Saving Joker is actually what Bruce set out to do:

The whole thing culminates with Bruce apparently giving Joker CPR to bring him back (the first of two canonical times, actually):

Joker: Last Laugh #6

I really love it when context in comics makes an event that's already bonkers... even more fucking bonkers.

Because Bruce had learned that Joker literally drove him insane with such amounts of torture no human mind could withstand-- but still chose to save Joker's life. It wasn't even about making sure Dick doesn't become a killer, it was about saving Joker from the start.

#one asks themselves 'did they NEED to include this detail?? that makes everything more insane??' #also you know how I joke that Superbat is 'I can fix him' and Batjokes is 'I can make him worse' #well the plot of Emperor Joker is LITERALLY that. Joker breaks Batman and then Superman fixes him #[head in hands] #and I didn't even comment on Bruce's possessiveness of his own pain #batman #joker: last laugh #superman: emperor joker #bruce wayne #clark kent #joker #dick grayson #batjokes #batjokes meta #my meta

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

On the subject of gotham county line and batman noel and so on and so forth it’s pretty frustrating (from a watsonian pov) that anytime Bruce hallucinates Jason being loving/ caring/helpful/compassionate towards him it’s always as robin and never as his current self

#it's ironic because Jason as robin never got the chance to become as obedient & devoted (malleable) to Bruce as he currently is #which is a result of being abused/manipulated for a more prolonged period of time #“maybe if I try harder and do it right this time he'll finally see the truth” #classic abuse tactic #no matter how well the victim fits the mold set by the abuser they’ll never acknowledge it #rather if they see you trying they’ll push harder and tell you you’re not perfect #the small shreds of affection here and there are important for motivating the victim to keep trying #kelseethe #Jason initiating the hug in rhato 27 after Bruce insinuated that those beatings will be a regular occurence bc he deems it a necessity #continuing to support Bruce even after Ethiopia and sticking around to help get Damian back #eagerly cooperating with Bruce + co in event leviathan then getting surprise pikachu faced/hurt after being betrayed #making a conscious decision to comfort Bruce in gotham war after Bruce fucked him up and left him behind #having undying conern for Bruce's wellbeing while Bruce regularly endangers his life #ex. Bruce's weird habit of committing vehicular assault on Jason whenever they're on the road demonstrated both in tfz and gotham war #point being: Jason was much more psychologically fit to be defiant towards Bruce when he was robin compared to now #he's more of a “good son”™ now than he was as robin Bruce is just too used to thinking whatever he wants and never being satisfied #the only times Jason got mad/upset at Bruce during one issue and continued to stay mad until the next #other than lost days and utrh was batman 410-411 and early in aditf before Bruce helps Jason find Sheila #so much worse has happened since then and all that just magically became water under the bridge off-panel

[anawrites3]

Im thinking about reverse robins brudick where Dick is so full of love to Bruce and he just wants to be loved back while Bruce is tearing himself apart because their age difference is so huge and he would never take advantage of Dickie like but he does love Dick back with all of himself too and just wants to make him happy but can't give him the thing Dick wants the most

#so basically it's regular brudick #ahaha #but im making bruce feel even worse about the age gap #lots of ideas lately #my ideas #brudick