#Bernard Knox

[heartoppression]

Oedipus did have one freedom: he was free to find out or not find out the truth. […] This freedom to search, and the heroic way in which Oedipus uses it, make the play not a picture of man's utter feebleness caught in the toils of fate, but on the contrary, a heroic example of man's dedication to the search for truth, the truth about himself.

Bernard Knox, in the introductory notes to Sophocles' Oedipus the King (trans. Robert Fagles)

#082022 #Sophocles #Bernard Knox #Robert Fagles #Oedipus the King #Oedipus Rex #The Three Theban Plays #lit

[thequietabsolute]

:: newbies

#charles bukowski #homer #the iliad #the odyssey #robert fagles #bernard knox #personal notes #hollywood #my books #n.

[epifaniacintilante]

Man is not equated to the gods, but man at his greatest, as in Oedipus, is capable of something which the gods, by definition, cannot experience; the proud tragic view of Sophocles sees in the fragility and inevitable defeat of human greatness the possibility of a purely human heroism to which the gods can never attain, for the condition of their existence is everlasting victory.

(KNOX, Bernard) Oedipus at Thebes (1957)

#oedipus #greek tragedy #bernard knox #fuckingbeautiful

[moreau29]

between jerejean and timber.. i'm noticing a pattern

#dw i have a separate blog for dc comics stuff #they're just kinda very jerejean coded #i would include a pic of jerejean but we don't have any official art i could use yk #aftg #all for the game #the sunshine court #dc comics #jerejean #timber #timbern #bernard dowd #jeremy knox #tim drake #jean moreau

[missdrummond]

AiO Thought of the Week

Age is truly just a foreign concept in Odyssey and there are no true answers but here are my headcannons:

Katrina is older than Eugene from somewhere to a few months upto a year and a half.

Eugene was 17-18 when he was hired at Whit’s End but is widely assumed to be older because of his voice and academic level but he 100% looked his age.

The writers said on the official pod Jay's age is a dependent variable. So I think when Jay is hanging out with Zoey, Buddy, or any of the other middle schoolers he is 13/14. With the rare exception, Jay is otherwise 17 however his appearance is still skued toward the 13/14.(this might be because of his height but that's a different headcannon) These numbers only apply to album 58 and beyond before that he is younger and is more consistent in age.

Jason is in his 40s.

Connie still hasn't quite reached her 30s but is almost there. I know she's still earning her degree but if Eugene is any indication 10yrs is not an unreasonable amount of time for a degree from CCCC. Plus I think she's swapped majors like 3 times.

Eugene and Katrina are very early 30s

Whit despite being born in 1925/26 is an ageless being of perpetual Eldersness and is therefore older than anyone in a given room and yet, still possess the ability to out-manuver the authorities both physically and mentally

Jack and Wilson are also ageless beings but not on Whit's level.

Tom lived just out of town and so aged normally, I guess. I have no evidence but I feel like he was born in 1931.

Bernard despite being one of the original "old men that make up Connie’s friend group" is good decade or so younger than Tom and Whit, still way older than Connie though.

#These are all as of album 76 #eugene meltsner #Katrina Meltsner #Katrina Shanks #Jay Smouse #zoey grant #Buddy Norman #jason whittaker #connie kendall #john avery whittaker #Jack Allen #Wilson Knox #tom riley #bernard walton #aio headcanon #adventures in odyssey #Aio

[femmeetart]

continuing episode 3

she's just like me fr

marnes is so funny aksjjsjs

1x04: truth

cont

#silo #juliette nichols #shirley campbell #bernard holland #ruth jahns #knox #rebecca ferguson #remmi milner #jules is such a mood lol i love her so much #myknickknacks #Will Patton #Tim Robbins #Geraldine James #Shane McRae

[reppyy]

#funny reactions #reppyreacts #reactions #Rebecca Ferguson #Juliette Nichols #Silo #Rashida Jones #Allison #David Oyelowo #Sherriff Holston #Common #Sims #Tim Robbins #Bernard #Will Patton #Deputy Marnes #Geraldine James #Mayor Ruth Jahns #Shane McRae #Knox #Sophie Thompson #Billy Postlethwaite #Remmie Milner #Matt Gomez Hidaka #Cooper #Peter Gadiot #Harriet Walter #Martha Walker #s01e05 #The Janitor's Boy

[deadpanwalking]

apologies if you've answered this before, but is there a translation of homer you'd particularly recommend?

If you haven't read Homer before, Fagles is a great choice because his translations strike a good balance between preserving the lyrical elements of Homer's poetry (i.e. more-or-less sticking to the five-beat lines, keeping in the repetitions) and remaining accessible to a modern reader (i.e. sometimes he'll evoke Homer’s line-ending alliterations by using end-rhymes). The other nice thing about the Fagles translations is the introduction and annotations by the great Bernard Knox, whose commentary illuminates the text by providing a lot of important context and background info. If you find Fagles too rich for your blood, Lombardo's translations are also really good to cut your teeth on—his more contemporary language is a little easier to parse.

#lattimore's translation is the most accurate one #but i find people are more amenable to it after they've already fallen in love #i hesitate to recommend wilson's translations to a first time reader #not because i don't love them #but because i think they're even better when you can appreciate what makes them so different from previous translations #also don't be afraid to mix and match translations—i.e. if you like fagles' iliad but you're not vibing with his odyssey try lombardo's #anonymous #assbox #classics mutuals feel free to chime in

[johaerys-writes]

Would you be interested in sharing some of your fav books/scholars/academics/papers on The Iliad?

Hello! And thank you for this ask!! Basically, my research on Homer focuses a lot on Achilles and his relationship with Patroclus; I sometimes read works that are about the Iliad in general, but most of it is with Patroclus and Achilles in mind. But I do often come across interesting works on the Iliad as a whole, so I'll list some of them here. I have a lot of stuff to share, I'll keep it as brief as I can because I don't want to overwhelm anyone lol.

Books

As far as books go, I have several different translations of the Iliad, and most of the time each translation has its own introduction, sometimes by another classicist. Those are a great place to start. My favourites are Caroline Alexander's Iliad translation, and the introduction she wrote herself. I like Caroline Alexander's work in general, including her book on the Iliad The War That Killed Achilles (which my pal Baejax sent me bc I couldn't find it anywhere here <3 <3), because her writing is clear, straightforward and informative. Her translation is my go to translation at the moment because I like how faithful it is to the original Greek, it's the one I keep next to my bedside and which is full of bookmarks and notes LOL.

Another favourite is Robert Fagles' translation, with an introduction by Bernard Knox (who also wrote an excellent introduction to Robert Fagles' translation of the Aeneid). Even though Robert Fagles' translation isn't as close to the original as others, I love it because it is just so beautiful. It is definitely the one with the most staying power if you ask me, some passages are just chef's kiss. Bernard Knox's intro is also super informative (although he doesn't really go into Patroclus' and Achilles' relationship), and when he supplements his analysis with Fagles' gorgeous text it's just a wonderful experience.

Another translation that I recommend to anyone who can read modern Greek is the one by N. Kazantzakis & G. Kakridis, I think it's THE iconic Greek translation if you ask me. It has a lot of idiomatic language and expressions and it might not be as easy to get into as other Greek translations are, but it's truly beautiful and lyrical and it is entirely written in 17-syllable lines in iambic metre, adapting Homer's dactylic hexameter to modern Greek. Verse translations aren't really a thing for most English translations, which is a shame if you ask me. I think it's pretty much the only translation I've read so far that really invites you to read it out loud, as the original work was intended.

I do have Emily Wilson's translation as well but I haven't read it yet (I KNOW, SHAME ON ME), I really want to give it my full attention and I just haven't had the time yet. But I've read bits of the introduction and also parts of the translation and so far I love them. I hope to be back with a more informed opinion once I've actually read it LOL

Scholars

I have to admit that I don't follow any specific scholar religiously. I tend to read whatever catches my interest. That being said, I do love Emily Wilson's work and I've read several of her articles and papers, I think they're really informative and well-written. When she was doing the promotion for her Iliad translation on Twitter I read a lot of the stuff she posted and they were all great. My favourite was her interview with Madeline Miller which you can read here. I also liked this review of her Iliad translation that I read recently, written by Stephanie Mc Carter. Basically, I follow her on Twitter and read the articles she posts, and some are very interesting. I also went to see her in person when she gave a lecture in Athens in October, it was really good but unfortunately it isn't online anymore so I can't link it :(

I also really like watching Madeline Miller interviews on Youtube, I think I've watched every single one that's out there and even though some of them are brief or repetitive because interviewers usually ask her the same questions, I do think she always has something interesting to says both related to her books/writing but also the Iliad and the Odyssey that have inspired her. There are two interviews in particular that I like, this one which is more about TSOA and the Iliad, and this one which is more about Circe and the Odyssey. I genuinely enjoy listening to her a lot, I find it very calming.

My friend @darlingpoppet recently introduced me to the work of Celsiana Warwick, and I've really enjoyed reading her stuff!! Particularly this one which is about conjugal bonds and the homoerotic subtext of the Iliad, and this one which is about gender and kleos in the Iliad. Good stuff, and I look forward to reading more!

Papers

There are a few papers about Achilles and Patroclus that I really like and that I go back to from time to time. I have far too many in my jstor account and can't go through all of them right now, but these spring to mind:

Achilles and Patroclus in Love by W.M. Clarke, it's a very informative analysis of the homoerotic subtext of the Iliad and tries to "prove" in a way that Achilles and Patroclus are in a romantic/erotic relationship. Super interesting!

The Relationship between Achilles and Patroclus according to Chariton of Aphrodisias and Was the Relationship between Achilles and Patroclus Homoerotic? The View of Apollonius Rhodius by Gabriel Laguna-Mariscal and Manuel Sanz-Morales are two very interesting analyses of Achilles and Patroclus' relationship in relation to other ancient works, they're not too long and I found them very fun to read.

Euphorbus and the Death of Achilles by Roberto Nickel is super interesting and has some really cool takes on the deaths of Hector, Achilles and Patroclus and how they are all related.

Some more stuff

Some more videos I've watched and find rather interesting are The Contemporary Relevance of the Iliad by Erwin Cook, Why Homer Matters which is a talk between Adam Nicholson and Paul Cartledge (whose work and lectures on ancient greek history are always super informative!! I love watching his stuff even if they're not directly Iliad-related) I don't vibe with everything that's said in this video honestly nor do I agree with a lot of Nicholson's takes but they did make some interesting points about Homer's relevance and the emphasis on honour/glory in a world without justice and in a war without good leadership, so it might be worth a watch. Lastly, another series of video lectures that I really like is Homer's The Iliad and The Odyssey, it's five lectures in total and a great introduction to the Homeric works which also goes into the historical context a little bit, very informative even for someone who is well versed in Homer.

I hope this helped! I can't think of any more off the top of my head now, and I really should get ready to leave for work lmao, but if I do think of anything else, I'll add it here :D Also, if you're reading this and have something to add feel free to do so!

#patrochilles #achilles #patroclus #the iliad #homer's iliad #greek mythology #greek literature

[and-justice-for-zoisite]

~𝓡𝓮𝓺𝓾𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓒𝓱𝓪𝓻𝓪𝓬𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓛𝓲𝓼𝓽~

Okay, so, I’m not really that motivated to write from my own ideas, but if y’all could send in some requests based on the characters listed then I’d appreciate it very much.

Requests // Open! 

I’m honestly up for writing anything, any reader, any character, any reasonable story, any gender, I will write it for you.

Anything with a ‘*’  is a favourite. 

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Fandoms I write for:

- Mortal Kombat* - Black Butler * - MBAV * - The Santa Clause - The Outsiders - Alien - Death Note

Miscellaneous:

-Bernard The Elf (The Santa Clause)  -David 8 (Prometheus) 

𝕄𝕠𝕣𝕥𝕒𝕝 𝕂𝕠𝕞𝕓𝕒𝕥:

-Fujin ******** -Cassie Cage* -Jacqui Briggs -Shang Tsung -Frost -Sindel -Liu Kang -Kung Lao

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𝕄𝔹𝔸𝕍:

-Benny Weir * -Ethan Morgan * -Sarah Fox  -Erica  -Rory 

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𝐃𝐄𝐀𝐓𝐇 𝐍𝐎𝐓𝐄:

-L Lawliet  -Mello  -Matt  -Near  -Misa Amane

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𝔹𝕚𝕝𝕝 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕋𝕖𝕕'𝕤 𝔼𝕩𝕔𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝔸𝕕𝕧𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕦𝕣𝕖:

-Bill S Preston Esquire * -Ted “Theodore” Logan *

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𝓣𝓱𝓮   𝓞𝓾𝓽𝓼𝓲𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓼:

-Ponyboy Curtis  -Sodapop Curtis  -Darrel Curtis  -Dallas Winston  -Two-Bit Mathews  -Johnny Cade  -Curly Shepard  -Steve Randle  -Bob Sheldon  -Cherry Valance  -Marcia 

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𝔅𝔩𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔅𝔲𝔱𝔩𝔢𝔯:

-Charles Grey* -Ronald Knox* -Sebastian Michaelis  -Mey-rin -Finnian -Hannah Annafellows 

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#bernard the elf x reader #fluff #bernard the elf fan fiction #the santa clause #the santa clause fan ficton #benny weir x reader #benny weir #mbav #benny weir imagine #mbav benny #fujin mortal kombat #fujin x reader #fujin #shang tsung mortal kombat #mortal kombat #mortal kombat 11 #mortal kombat x reader #liu kang #kung lao #black butler #black butler charles grey #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #writing requests #request

[heartoppression]

This young princess [Antigone] is a formidable being, a of cold resolve and fierce intensity. Unlike Anouilh's Antigone she has no tender emotions; except when she speaks to Polynices, she is all hard steel. Once she has made up her mind her mind to act, no persuasion, no threat, not death itself can break her resolution. She will not yield a point a or give an inch […] Those who oppose her will are met with contempt and defiance; friends who try to dissuade her are treated as enemies. Even when she despairs of the gods to whom she had looked for help, she does not waver; she goes to her death with a last disdainful insult to Creon: "see what I suffer now / at the hands of what breed of men" (1032-33) This is a pattern of character and behavior which is found in other Sophoclean dramatic figures also; not only in the Oedipus of the other two plays of this volume but also in the protagonists of Ajax, Electra and Philoctetes. They are of course very different from each other, but they all have in common the same uncompromising determination, the same high sense of their own worth and a consequent quickness to take offense, the readiness to die rather than surrender— a heroic temper.

Bernard Knox, in the introductory notes to Sophocles' Antigone (trans. Robert Fagles)

#082022 #Sophocles #Robert Fagles #Bernard Knox #Antigone #The Three Theban Plays #lit

[brightwaterforarainyday]

What's Echo Reading, 2024

Previously:

The Great GGK Quarentine Reread Project

2022- 2023

Fly By Night, Francis Hardinge (1/19/24) Its always interesting to go back something that shaped you so deeply in the past, you kind of get to... re-visit your old self a bit, see the places you've changed and the places you've stayed the same. Also it did make it very apparent that Hardinge's style is another one that's had a huge influence on my own lmao.

Piranesi, Susanna Clarke (1/26/24) An interesting book, I would even say a good one. It's not.... a book About a House, though, is the thing. The "House" makes for an interesting backdrop to the action of the story but it's not present in the story like Hill House or the house on Ash Tree Lane (or even like, the house in This Census-Taker, I would argue). It's also... not really a house. It's a Space, but it's not a House. I liked Piranesi the character, I enjoyed spending time with him, but his book just... isn't a House Book.

Currently:

The Iliad, trans. Robert Fagles & Bernard Knox -- Let's absolutely go gamers the introduction to this thing is 67 pages long and I've loved every one of them so far.

Up Next:

Probably The Left Hand of Darkness!

[olivish]

If you had to assign each Snowpiercer character a Silo counterpart, who would they be?

*You are allowed to say that a character is a fusion of two or more characters, and you choose who to include

Season 1 Mel = Bernard Season 2 & 3 Mel = Jules Wilford & Audrey don't have Silo equivalents, SADLY. Layton = Holston Josie = Alison Ruth = Jahns Roche = Marnes Ben = Knox (HA) Grey + Kevin = Sims George and Lucas don't really have Snowpiercer equivalents, or maybe they do but I don't think about them enough to notice ;)

#snowpiercer #silo #asks

[countyflagchampionship]

On to Round 2!

This is a wrap-up of the current standings. Polls for round 2 will be published starting this Saturday (12/16).

Congratulations to all the counties that progressed!

The state that is standing the strongest is New York, with 39 counties progressing to round 2! Albany, Allegany, Allegany, Broome, Cattaraugus, Chautauqua, Chemung, Chenango, Clinton, Columbia, Delaware, Franklin, Greene, Hamilton, Jefferson, Kings, Livingston, Nassau, New York, Niagara, Oneida, Orange, Otsego, Putnam, Rensselaer, Richmond, Rockland, Saint Lawrence, Saratoga, Schuyler, Steuben, Suffolk, Sullivan, Ulster, Warren, Washington, Wayne, Westchester, and Wyoming.

Next most powerful state is Virginia, which has 36 winning counties. Alleghany, Alleghany, Amherst, Augusta, Bedford, Brunswick, Caroline, Carroll, Charlotte, Chesterfield, Fairfax, Fauquier, Fluvanna, Gloucester, Goochland, Grayson, Halifax, Isle of Wight, James City, King and Queen, King George, King William, Lee, Louisa, Montgomery, Patrick, Pittsylvania, Prince Edward, Pulaski, Rockingham, Scott, Smyth, Southampton, Tazewell, Warren, and Wise.

Ohio is also standing strong with 27 advancing counties. Brown, Butler, Columbiana, Coshocton, Crawford, Defiance, Erie, Fulton, Geauga, Holmes, Jackson, Lake, Lawrence, Licking, Madison, Mahoning, Medina, Mercer, Monroe, Muskingum, Perry, Pickaway, Ross, Scioto, Seneca, Trumbull, and Van Wert.

North Carolina is up next with a solid 24 wins. Beaufort, Cabarrus, Caldwell, Camden, Carteret, Craven, Currituck, Granville, Harnett, Henderson, Hoke, Jackson, Johnson, Lenoir, Lincoln, Macon, Madison, Mecklenburg, Northampton, Onslow, Person, Robeson, Tyrrell, and Wake.

Only 1 more state has over 20 counties that made won their match-ups and that's my wonderful Washington. Adams, Asotin, Chelan, Clallam, Cowlitz, Ferry, Garfield, Grant, Grays Harbor, King, Kitsap, Kittitas, Klickitat, Lewis, Pacific, Pend Oreille, Skagit, Snohomish, Thurston, Walla Walla, Whatcom, Whitman, Yakima. Stay strong my soldiers.

A much higher number of states are comfortably in the middle of the pack. They are as follows:

Texas: 19 counties. Bosque, Collin, Dallas, Denton, Fort Bend, Goliad, Hockley, Jones, Lipscomb, Live Oak, Llano, McMullen, Milam, Ochiltree, Orange, Panola, Parker, San Patricio, and Travis.

California: 17 counties. Amador, Calaveras, El Dorado, Imperial, Lake, Mariposa, Monterey, Orange, San Benito, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Solano, Tulare, Tuolumne, and Yolo.

Pennsylvania: 16 counties. Allegheny, Blair, Butler, Carbon, Dauphin, Franklin, Greene, Jefferson, Lancaster, Lycoming, Mifflin, Montgomery, Perry, Potter, Venango, and York.

Tennessee: 15 counties. Blount, Campbell, Carter, Cumberland, Hardin, Houston, Johnson, Knox, Madison, Maury, McNairy, Obion, Union, Williamson, and Wilson.

Nebraska: 13 counties. Adams, Buffalo, Cass, Cherry, Dakota, Keith, Knox, Nuckolls, Platte, Saunders, Stanton, Thayer, and Webster.

Nevada: 13 counties. Churchill, Clark, Douglas, Esmeralda, Eureka, Lander, Lincoln, Lyon, Mineral, Pershing, Storey, Washoe, and White Pine.

Illinois: 12 counties. Cook, DeKalb, Franklin, Jasper, Kane, Marion, McDonough, McHenry, Morgan, Peoria, St Clair, and Winnebago.

Maryland: 12 counties. Anne Arundel, Calvert, Carroll, Cecil, Dorchester, Frederick, Montgomery, Prince George’s, Queen Anne’s, Talbot, Washington, and Worcester.

Michigan: 12 counties. Barry, Berrien, Clinton, Genesee, Gogebic, Kalamazoo, Lake, Oceana, Ottawa, Rocommon, Sanilac, and Wexford.

Iowa: 11 counties. Dickinson, Fayette, Hancock, Hardin, Henry, Humboldt, Jefferson, Jones, Polk, Pottawattamie, and Wright.

Louisiana: 11 parishes. Ascension, Bossier, Cameron, Catahoula, Concordia, Jefferson, Lincoln, Natchitoches, St Bernard, St James, and St Tammany.

New Jersey: 11 counties. Bergen, Cumberland, Essex, Middlesex, Morris, Passaic, Salem, Somerset, Sussex, Union, and Warren.

Kentucky: 10 counties. Boone, Boyle, Breckinridge, Daviess, Leslie, Logan, Pike, Shelby, Trimble, Woodford.

Many of these poor cute states are barely hanging on. Please wish them luck.

Florida: 8 counties. Alachua, Bay, Miami-Dade, Monroe, Okaloosa, Osceola, Palm Beach, and St Johns.

New Mexico: 8 counties. Colfax, Curry, Doña Ana, Lincoln, Mora, Otero, Roosevelt, and Socorro.

Georgia: 6 counties. Bartow, Cherokee, Floyd, Fulton, Pierce, and Rockdale.

Indiana: 6 counties. Benton, Elkhart, Jennings, Marion, Marshall, and Starke.

Minnesota: 6 counties. Aitkin, Clearwater, Hennepin, Hubbard, McLeod, and Pipestone.

Wisconsin: 6 counties. Calumet, Fond du Lac, Osaukee, Portage, Racine, and Sheboygan.

Wyoming: 6 counties. Big Horn, Converse, Lincoln, Natrona, Park, and Teton.

Missouri: 5 counties. Clay, Gentry, Greene, Newton, and St Louis.

South Carolina: 5 counties. Anderson, Calhoun, Dillon, Dorchester, and Lexington.

Utah: 5 counties. Beaver, Summit, Utah, Washington, and Wayne.

Alaska: 4 boroughs. Anchorage, Juneau, Matanuska-Susitna, and Wrangell.

Arkansas: 4 counties. Cross, Searcy, Washington, and White.

Colorado: 4 counties. Douglas, El Paso, Fremont, and La Plata.

Oklahoma: 4 counties. Bryan, Payne, Rogers, and Washington.

West Virginia: 4 counties. Fayette, Marion, Monongalia, and Roane.

Alabama: 3 counties. Bullock, Cleburne, and Mobile.

Arizona: 3 counties. Coconino, Maricopa, and Yavapai.

Maine: 3 counties. Androscoggin, Hancock, and Washington.

Idaho: 2 counties. Bannock and Bonner.

Kansas: 2 counties. Atchinson and Johnson.

Massachusetts: 2 counties. Barnstable and Berkshire.

Montana: 2 counties. Gallatin and Silver Bow.

North Dakota: 2 counties. Benson and LaMoure.

Some states only have 1 county that progressed. They are: Delaware (Kent County), Hawaii (Maui County), Mississippi (Adams County), New Hampshire (Hillsborough County), Oregon (Linn County), and South Dakota (Bennet County).

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In addition to all the winning counties above, there will be 83 new county flags folded into round 2!!! (Because of math reasoning this had to happen) Get hyped

They are as follows:

Alexander NC, Allen OH, Alpena MI, Alpena MI, Alpine CA, Arapahoe CO, Ashe NC, Avery NC, Baldwin AL, Baltimore MD, Bell KY, Benzie MI, Bernalillo NM, Black Hawk IA, Brevard FL, Camden NJ, Campbell WY, Canyon ID, Centre PA, Charles City VA, Cheatham TN, Chester PA, Clark WA, Clarke VA, Cleveland OK, Cochise AZ, Columbus NC, Coweta GA, Darke OH, Davidson NC, Elko NV, Erie PA, Florence SC, Garrett MD, Goshen WY, Greene VA, Grundy IL, Gwinnett GA, Hidalgo TX, Highland OH, Hocking OH, Holt NE, Hot Springs WY, Howard MD, Huntingdon PA, Ingham MI, Island WA, Kankakee IL, Lackawanna PA, Lawrence PA, Leelanau MI, Lehigh PA, Leon FL, Liberty TX, Lucas OH, Madera CA, Mahaska IA, Manitowoc WI, McLennan TX, Meigs OH, Milwaukee WI, Nashville and Davidson TN, Northumberland VA, Orleans NY, Page VA, Porter IN, Sacramento CA, Salt Lake UT, San Diego CA, Sangamon IL, Sevier TN, Shelby TN, Skamania WA, Spotsylvania VA, Stafford VA, Sussex VA, Terrell TX, Trinity CA, Tulsa OK, Tuscarawas OH, Ventura CA, Wahkiakum WA, Yuma AZ

#updates

[julesnichols]

Who do you think are the Silo counterparts to the Snowpiercer characters?

Okay here we go, some of these are gonna be similar or the same as the post @onetrainscifi made a couple weeks ago because they just make sense, also going purely off show Silo characters:

Melanie: she's what you get if you crossed Bernard and Jules. She's an engineer yes but her story, especially in season one, of hiding who she really is to keep them all afloat is more like Bernard's and makes it so it can't really be a 1 to 1 comparison with Jules.

Layton: a cross between Jules and Billings, but even these aren't entirely 1 to 1. He's like Jules because he's too curious for his own good and eventually ends up paying the price for it by crossing the wrong character. But he's like Billings because he does have the experience of having been in law enforcement before. So while I can't really think of two characters, let alone one, who are an easy and accurate comparison I do think that these are as close as you can get.

Till: Billings, with a little bit of Sandy. Young, some experience, have biases at first but judging by how Billings was acting might start to come around to the idea of there being other ways of doing things. And in the case of Sandy, realized that hey maybe this person can actually do their job.

Ruth: Jahns, with maybe some Sandy and Billings thrown in there. She's diplomatic and good at it, but she's by the book to the point of not questioning it and originally has her biases. A bit too dark at first to fully be Jahns imo but mostly Jahns, I'd say, with the other two characters' similarities giving her her edge.

Ben: another character I have trouble finding one or more characters I feel like fully fit. But I'll give it a go and say he's some combination here of Knox, Lukas, and a little bit of Shirley. Knox because the times we see Ben betray Melanie, it's not about using her for her knowledge and leaving her behind, it's because he thinks it's what's best for everybody, even when it's not morally correct. He let Wilford catch up to them because he thought the risk was worth it for the parts (and I could and have gone on rants about this before so I'll spare you them now and just say if you wanna hear them again I'll dig them up), and when Wilford forced his hand by braking he chose to leave Melanie behind rather than risk derailing all of them. So it's definitely not a 1 to 1 comparison to Knox, but there are those similarities. Lukas I feel like while it's again not 1 to 1, there's more similarity between him and Ben than George and Ben. Lukas is softer and more emotionally available than Jules and again it's not 1 to 1 because we've seen what happened there in Silo (though who knows what next season will bring), which parallels the fact that Ben is far more emotionally available than Melanie and arguably in some ways more devoted. The little bit of Shirley is because he'll help Melanie with her plans even when they're reckless and is loyal to her.

Wilford: a mix between Bernard and Sims. I don't really have much to say about this one it's more just vibes and it's not like, fully 1 to 1 for either of those, but they're as close as you can get.

Javi: Cooper, I feel like, is the most similar but it's not 1 to 1. He's younger than the other two engine engineers and he's not always included/seen as an equal like Cooper. Unlike Cooper though he's been around long enough that they really should know better that he's as good.

Bonus: a few Silo to Snowpiercer character comparisons because I want to:

Jules: a cross between Melanie and Layton. Brilliant engineer, definitely autistic like Melanie, may or may not be in love with her generator. Decides, rather than is dragged, to go up top to solve a murder and accidentally stumbles onto something bigger that gets her in trouble with the powers that be.

Bernard: a cross between Melanie and Wilford. He is hiding who he is and is pretending to be innocuous like Melanie, and lets other people be blamed for things he does. But while Melanie isn't bothered until she has to do her own dirty work when it's beyond like, drawering somebody, Bernard can and does his own dirty work at points and does not seem bothered by it at all.

Billings: kinda Till, kinda Roche. Has more experience than Till and will probably take a bit longer to come around than she did, the way Roche did. Has a family who is his main concern/reason for not questioning things the way Roche has one. But is also still new enough to this particular job to be like Till, and I definitely think he might be one of the first to start questioning things in the Silo.

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